As a dog trainer and service dog handler I haven’t needed to use half the tools you recommend, because I was VERY lucky with my dog. Others aren’t so lucky, so it’s great to see your recommendations. A gentle leader worked to teach her to walk, so I didn’t need a prong collar. Her recall has always been great so I never needed an e collar for that, though I did use it when she had the bad habit of sniffing people we would walk by. Now that she’s fully trained I use a basic leash and collar and it’s so nice. She will wear a vest with pockets when we’re on long outings but her collar holds her patches so it’s all she really needs.
I've not watched the video yet but I'm just hyped to find another handler with a pure border collie SD! My dog is only 6 months so he's VERY much still in the early days of training but for such hard workers I'm surprised that more people don't use them for assistance work! :)
Love seeing a fellow balanced trainer who's not afraid to use training/communication tools! I see so much misinformation about prongs and e-collars it drives me insane.
@AD Indeed when used appropriately! It sucks that there's a lot of people who are misinformed or flat out don't care despite knowing they're using it wrong. Causes a lot of controversy over a tool that when used right gives a dog so much more freedom 💙
@AD shock collars electrocute dogs. Proper ecollars (such as ecollar technologies and Dogtra) simply provide a stim (stimulation, the equivalent of a tens unit). The stim option is perfectly fine to use, and is often less adversive than the tone and vibrate options. Misuse would involve things like blasting the stim super high (which is a massive overcorrection and is often painful), correcting at inappropriate times (such as minutes or more after the dog did something wrong), correcting when the dog doesn't understand why it's being corrected/what it's being corrected for (minus the short introductory phase where some will associate the stim/vibration/tone with something like treats or praise, but this is also done on the low levels not high levels). Etc. I use a Prong Collar (Herm Sprenger brand, the only one I currently recommend) and an ecollar (Ecollar Technologies) on my pup, my pup is a service dog by law (meets the full legal definition set forth by the ADA) but still considered in training by me because he hasn't learned all the tasks I need yet. I utilize the stim when at home for recall and minor corrections, and will use it for minor off leash corrections when needed in public once off leash tasks are trained. I utilize the prong collar as a sort of tap on the shoulder, as well as it allows my SD to more comfortablely and safely put pressure on the collar (pulling ever so slightly) which while isn't technically a trained task, is something I allow solely because the pressure pulling slightly at my hand helps keep me grounded and calm, and allows me to focus on my surroundings more easily. (He doesn't drag me around or pull hard, and if at any point he does try to actually pull pull, although he really doesn't, he would get corrected for it as that is inappropriate behavior)
Definitely do not recommend using a leather hands free leash for a puppy in training. You should get a leash than can be thrown away if it gets extremely dirty or if its chewed up. Leather is something you must keep clean for it to last longer and so using a leash made of leather with a puppy in training isn't the best option until they are leash trained.
I sold it on Facebook :) this video was filmed early but any pnl gear I sell is posted in the friends of patience and love Facebook group then any ither gear is in perfectly imperfect service dog gear on Facebook as well
As a dog trainer and service dog handler I haven’t needed to use half the tools you recommend, because I was VERY lucky with my dog. Others aren’t so lucky, so it’s great to see your recommendations. A gentle leader worked to teach her to walk, so I didn’t need a prong collar. Her recall has always been great so I never needed an e collar for that, though I did use it when she had the bad habit of sniffing people we would walk by. Now that she’s fully trained I use a basic leash and collar and it’s so nice. She will wear a vest with pockets when we’re on long outings but her collar holds her patches so it’s all she really needs.
I've not watched the video yet but I'm just hyped to find another handler with a pure border collie SD! My dog is only 6 months so he's VERY much still in the early days of training but for such hard workers I'm surprised that more people don't use them for assistance work! :)
Can you makes video of where. You get the stuff from and what’s recommended about different types of dogs and sizes
Love seeing a fellow balanced trainer who's not afraid to use training/communication tools! I see so much misinformation about prongs and e-collars it drives me insane.
@AD Indeed when used appropriately! It sucks that there's a lot of people who are misinformed or flat out don't care despite knowing they're using it wrong. Causes a lot of controversy over a tool that when used right gives a dog so much more freedom 💙
@AD shock collars electrocute dogs. Proper ecollars (such as ecollar technologies and Dogtra) simply provide a stim (stimulation, the equivalent of a tens unit). The stim option is perfectly fine to use, and is often less adversive than the tone and vibrate options.
Misuse would involve things like blasting the stim super high (which is a massive overcorrection and is often painful), correcting at inappropriate times (such as minutes or more after the dog did something wrong), correcting when the dog doesn't understand why it's being corrected/what it's being corrected for (minus the short introductory phase where some will associate the stim/vibration/tone with something like treats or praise, but this is also done on the low levels not high levels). Etc.
I use a Prong Collar (Herm Sprenger brand, the only one I currently recommend) and an ecollar (Ecollar Technologies) on my pup, my pup is a service dog by law (meets the full legal definition set forth by the ADA) but still considered in training by me because he hasn't learned all the tasks I need yet. I utilize the stim when at home for recall and minor corrections, and will use it for minor off leash corrections when needed in public once off leash tasks are trained. I utilize the prong collar as a sort of tap on the shoulder, as well as it allows my SD to more comfortablely and safely put pressure on the collar (pulling ever so slightly) which while isn't technically a trained task, is something I allow solely because the pressure pulling slightly at my hand helps keep me grounded and calm, and allows me to focus on my surroundings more easily. (He doesn't drag me around or pull hard, and if at any point he does try to actually pull pull, although he really doesn't, he would get corrected for it as that is inappropriate behavior)
This was insanely helpful! Thanks♡
You're so welcome! I'm glad it could help
Definitely do not recommend using a leather hands free leash for a puppy in training. You should get a leash than can be thrown away if it gets extremely dirty or if its chewed up. Leather is something you must keep clean for it to last longer and so using a leash made of leather with a puppy in training isn't the best option until they are leash trained.
The vest that you said you are selling, where are you selling it I would love to buy it! :)
I sold it on Facebook :) this video was filmed early but any pnl gear I sell is posted in the friends of patience and love Facebook group then any ither gear is in perfectly imperfect service dog gear on Facebook as well
Can u put links of were u purchased items
Please please
Do you have the amazon link for the leather over the shoulder leash? Thanks so much!
Amazon unfortunately doesn't sell this on anymore I can try to find one thats similar if you're interested :)
@@leonnasmith8724 Thank you for offering. I'll take a look myself and see if I can find something similar. Take care!