Giving *THE TERMINATOR* Movies a Second Chance! (Movie Commentary)

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  • @DosCavazos
    @DosCavazos  Месяц назад +18

    🤖 *Watch my full length reaction to The Terminator (1984):* www.patreon.com/posts/terminator-1984-102113345
    🤖 *Watch my full length reaction to Terminator 2: Judgement Day:* www.patreon.com/posts/terminator-2-day-102115988

    • @Lord_Legolas_Greenleaf
      @Lord_Legolas_Greenleaf Месяц назад +1

      Time - basically a straight line - continuous... Then the moment Kyle transports back (and arrives in the past) at this point in time and everything afterwards becomes 'movable'/'changeable.' Fess UP! You wanted him to take you to Cielito Lindo and have some Beef Taquitos with Avocado Sauce!!! That's why you didn't like the movie! "He's Him!" LOL Yes! Arnold has achieved "Him" status! lol Well - killing Dyson wouldn't stop it, only delay the initial SkyNet. In the first movie it happened prior to Kyle coming (Cyberdyne Systems model 101/Arnold). SkyNet: technologically wise - it probably wasn't as advanced (and Dyson indicated this); but after that first movie it got to the advancement of 'mimetic poly-alloy' to make Terminators. "Him" or "Her" status is given to exceptional actors or actresses! My nephew gave me this term lol As for "Johns' future self stopping something his younger self won't have to do..." Personally it would seem to be a 'given' as in math problems; it will happen.

    • @cyberingcatgirls7069
      @cyberingcatgirls7069 Месяц назад +2

      This movie more than any other is the prime example of why I watch movie reactions. The twist of Arnold being the good guy this time around was spoiled for me and almost everybody I knew by things like Entertainment Tonight and various promotions, so when I saw it in the theater I didn't get to feel that sense of surprise. Watching reactors like you go "Wait, what?!" in the mall scene allows me to get some of that back. Thanks and keep it up!

    • @SAHIL-pt3to
      @SAHIL-pt3to Месяц назад +1

      React to BAHUBALI movie❤

    • @SAHIL-pt3to
      @SAHIL-pt3to Месяц назад +1

      React to BAHUBALI movie😊

    • @SAHIL-pt3to
      @SAHIL-pt3to Месяц назад +1

      React to BAHUBALI movie😊

  • @MadcapMatt
    @MadcapMatt Месяц назад +155

    Bill Paxton so far remains the only actor to die from a Terminator, an alien, and a predator.

    • @user-bl1zm1lb1p
      @user-bl1zm1lb1p Месяц назад +38

      At least he survived the twister.

    • @paulschuckman6604
      @paulschuckman6604 Месяц назад +48

      What about Lance Henriksen? Gunned down by this Terminator, ripped in half by an Alien Queen and stabbed with a Predator's wrist blade in AVP.

    • @billthomas478
      @billthomas478 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@paulschuckman6604avp is fan fiction, not cannon

    • @Geerladenlad
      @Geerladenlad Месяц назад +6

      ​@@billthomas478Nope, Canon.

    • @billthomas478
      @billthomas478 Месяц назад +7

      @@Geerladenlad absolutely not. Glorified fan fiction, just like Disney Star Wars and the mSHEu

  • @keithbieberly6445
    @keithbieberly6445 Месяц назад +116

    Reese always wondered what she was thinking when the picture was taken, and she was thinking about him

    • @DosCavazos
      @DosCavazos  Месяц назад +32

      Omg 🥹 -Kacee

    • @patrickflanagan3762
      @patrickflanagan3762 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Gonzalo_AlmendraLOL

    • @pjdexter168
      @pjdexter168 Месяц назад +4

      what was the dog thinking about?

    • @ElOroDelTigre
      @ElOroDelTigre Месяц назад +18

      @@pjdexter168 Same as Sarah - a good bone.

    • @Thaedriel
      @Thaedriel Месяц назад +5

      @@ElOroDelTigre Hah! absolute W

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose Месяц назад +42

    Very few people have truly appreciated Kyle and Sarahs bittersweet love story through time. Sarahs thinking of him when the picture is taken and Kyle is always thinking of her when he looks at the picture. It's beautifully poetic actually.

  • @pric1019
    @pric1019 Месяц назад +102

    “That’s your bosses mom!” 😂 LOL! Best quote about this movie I ever heard!

    • @nickschnider9191
      @nickschnider9191 Месяц назад +5

      I have watched these movies for decades and that was great. For a first reaction it's epic 😂.

    • @markwang77
      @markwang77 Месяц назад +2

      don't forget the 'plant his seed' comment too LOL

  • @quixote6942
    @quixote6942 Месяц назад +16

    THREE cast members from this Movie were used in "Aliens"... The Blue haired Punk (Bill Paxton) was "Hudson", "Reese" Michael Behan was "Hicks" and the Detective (Lance Henriksen) was "Bishop". In T2, John's Foster Mom (Jenette Goldstein) was the Female Marine, "Vasquez".

    • @LetsGetitBoah
      @LetsGetitBoah 24 дня назад

      Don’t forget that Johns foster mom in the 2nd movie played Vasquez in aliens also.

  • @positivelynegative9149
    @positivelynegative9149 Месяц назад +44

    Reese was born after the nuclear war, which isn't changed by him traveling to, and dying in, the past. Reese's parents are already alive in 1984 and none of the events in the first film changed them having him in the future.

    • @IDiggPattyMayonnaise
      @IDiggPattyMayonnaise Месяц назад +2

      Insert Hulk Endgame time travel explanation here

    • @kacamatakk
      @kacamatakk Месяц назад

      Nope, Reese has born before that happen
      (base on Terminator : Genysis)

    • @marcbraun5342
      @marcbraun5342 4 дня назад

      That's because in the first movie they still know how time works, that's why it's an awesome movie, it makes sense.

  • @kevinburton3948
    @kevinburton3948 Месяц назад +30

    18:45 There was a scene written and storyboarded for Terminator 2 during the Future War opening- John, Kyle and the Resistance storm the Skynet base and destroy the mainframe winning the War, however they find the Time Travel equipment and realize the first Terminator has been sent back to kill Sarah.
    Kyle instantly volunteers and is sent through time. However the scene stays with John and one of his lieutenants after Kyle goes through. Since John already knows, the lieutenant asks John what happens to Kyle in the past. John tells him-
    "He successfully completes his mission. He dies. And..."
    "He's my Father."
    Really wish they had filmed it even as a deleted scene.

    • @JustGrowingUp84
      @JustGrowingUp84 Месяц назад +7

      They kept it in the novelization.
      In fact, novelizations in general have tend to be based on the script, not the movie, so they have plenty of extra info.

    • @Morris1581
      @Morris1581 Месяц назад +4

      Exact this Scene is in Terminator Genesys (5)

    • @matt_canon
      @matt_canon Месяц назад +2

      The 4th level in T2: The Arcade Game was loosely based on this. I remember many of us were dumping lots of quarters into the Level 3 truck mission just to catch a glimpse of it.

    • @kevinburton3948
      @kevinburton3948 Месяц назад

      @@matt_canon Don't get me started on how many quarters I spent on that game. 🙃 😆

    • @matt_canon
      @matt_canon Месяц назад

      19:45 Some video somewhere on youtube said that this gigantic fireball was supposed to be Skynet's destruction.

  • @bentoxic1335
    @bentoxic1335 Месяц назад +18

    Fun fact, Dean Norris (Hank from Breaking Bad) is the swat officer that tells everyone to fall back before the explosion

    • @Vile_412
      @Vile_412 Месяц назад +1

      He has so many little roles in late 80s and 90s movies, kinda funny

  • @Mycroft616
    @Mycroft616 Месяц назад +8

    "It's your ancestors! 'That's my great-uncle.'"
    You do not even realize how accurate that is. There is a deleted scene that reveals the building they are in is Cyberdyne Systems. The sequel reveals Cyberdyne got their hands on the remnants, but never explicitly stated the final battle was in Cyberdyne's factory.

    • @LudusAurea
      @LudusAurea 29 дней назад

      It’s not deleted. Lol . T2 explicitly says Miles works for Cyberdyne.

    • @Mycroft616
      @Mycroft616 29 дней назад

      @@LudusAurea The deleted scene is from the _first_ movie; hence why it is compared to a quote made in response to the first movie. And this does not change the fact that the sequel never explicitly states the final battle of the first movie was in Cyberdyne's factory; "Dyson works for Cyberdyne" is not remotely synonymous with "That building in the first movie was Cyberdyne Systems."
      Comments are meant to be read.

  • @Nigel_A15
    @Nigel_A15 Месяц назад +8

    Great call to watch the first one. James Cameron did want the 2nd one to be more stand alone, and not require the first one to watch it. He even deleted a scene with Kyle Reese specifically for that reason. But it has numerous call backs to this one and some of the lines have more impact. It's a shame to see other reactors just blankly stare because they didn't see the first one.

  • @Raven5150
    @Raven5150 Месяц назад +11

    You don't remember cause skynet erased everyone's memory when they created the matrix

  • @thadkayne
    @thadkayne Месяц назад +5

    Dyson: "you're judging me on things i haven't even done yet"
    Terminator: "I'm the proof that you've already done it"

  • @shotgunnerB
    @shotgunnerB Месяц назад +3

    Remember, the first terminator was a low budget movie, it was such a bo x office blockbuster that they threw millions and millions at the director to make number 2!!, and terminator 3 is worth watching to follow the story to the end!!!!

  • @ephraimwinslow
    @ephraimwinslow Месяц назад +13

    There's a really good Perturbator song that samples Kyle's "It can't be bargained with..." speech in its entirety.
    "Humans are Such Easy Prey" ...the title of which is also a reference to another movie (From Beyond).

    • @imperialinquisitormordecai9688
      @imperialinquisitormordecai9688 Месяц назад

      I'm so sorry i'm sucha 40k fan i can only thing of the primarch perturabo and nothing else. I'm sure you're proving a certain point, but please stop proving the point of a heretic

    • @ephraimwinslow
      @ephraimwinslow Месяц назад

      @@imperialinquisitormordecai9688
      Bro? Ya gotta learn when & where to make those reference dumps.
      And do it sparingly. Has more impact that way.

  • @joshuacampbell7493
    @joshuacampbell7493 Месяц назад +13

    I recommend Robert Patrick again in Cop Land, The Faculty & The Marine. Sylvester Stallone, Ray Liotta, Robert De Niro, Elijah Wood & John Cena in those movies.

  • @roguechevelle
    @roguechevelle Месяц назад +4

    I'm glad you decided to give these another try. I always loved the directors cut version of T2 because their is an added scene where Sarah has a moment where she dreams of Kyle, he gives her comfort & encourages her to stay strong it always got me in the feels cuz you see she still loved him despite what little time they had together and she must of thought of him often, even John sensed she still loved and missed him.

    • @hellomark1
      @hellomark1 Месяц назад

      The director's cut has some really interesting added scenes, but I think theatrical is the better way to go on first viewing, especially because it has a better ending. It's always fun to go and watch the deleted scenes though.

  • @giodagrate5369
    @giodagrate5369 Месяц назад +42

    “Well he’s about to plant the seed.” 😂

    • @DirtMaguirk
      @DirtMaguirk Месяц назад +2

      and T-800 was the wingman.

    • @klass_1221
      @klass_1221 Месяц назад +2

      "It's your ancestors. That's my great-uncle". 😂

    • @coldwhite4240
      @coldwhite4240 Месяц назад +1

      @@klass_1221 Yeah, I loved that line! 🤣

    • @LubbockBabesFan
      @LubbockBabesFan Месяц назад

      @@coldwhite4240 Same😄😄

  • @r.h.3084
    @r.h.3084 Месяц назад +2

    While I absolutely love Terminator 1 & 2, I also think it's perfectly fine for somebody to not like something regardless of how popular it is :)

  • @peterlenham3180
    @peterlenham3180 Месяц назад +9

    Robert Patrick who played the T1000 in Terminator 2, is the same actor who played John Cena's dad in Peacemaker.

    • @MickeyStartraveller
      @MickeyStartraveller Месяц назад +1

      and Gus Hayden in "Strange Wilderness" :D one of his best works :)

    • @peterlenham3180
      @peterlenham3180 Месяц назад

      @@MickeyStartraveller What a cameo!

    • @dwnkaomwn3953
      @dwnkaomwn3953 Месяц назад +1

      He was also on the Walking Dead in one episode "One More".

    • @peterlenham3180
      @peterlenham3180 Месяц назад

      @@dwnkaomwn3953 Hes been in lots of things over the past 40 years.

    • @thectk1000
      @thectk1000 Месяц назад +2

      He also played the villain in John Cena's first big movie, The Marine.

  • @domingocurbelomorales8635
    @domingocurbelomorales8635 Месяц назад +4

    Almost in the first scene with the three guys, the blue haired is Bill Paxton, a very well known actor who appeared in Titanic, Aliens or Twister, among another ones.

    • @garyjbaker
      @garyjbaker Месяц назад

      Don't forget Brian Thompson.. .who was the bad guy in the movie Cobra... and The Judge in Buffy The Vampire Slayer season 2

  • @x0x0mariax0x0
    @x0x0mariax0x0 Месяц назад +1

    T2 is a classic movie. I love taking an edible and turning the volume right up lol

  • @dunringill1747
    @dunringill1747 Месяц назад +3

    28:23 "It's like a paradox" - Yes, EXACTLY! You got it! It's a sci fi concept where time travel causes at least one event that will make a specific reality happen. It is known as a "Bootstrap Paradox".
    *FYI:* Although time travel stories have been around for centuries, the Bootstrap Paradox comes from Robert Heinlein’s story “By His Bootstraps.” It was published in the October, 1941 issue of the Astounding Science Fiction magazine under the pseudonym Anson MacDonald.
    "The Terminator" is not the first movie with a Bootstrap Paradox. The earliest movies I can remember containing the Bootstrap Paradox and Alternate Timelines were the original "Planet of The Apes" (5 movie franchise from 1968 - 1973).

  • @marcbraun5342
    @marcbraun5342 4 дня назад

    People often don't seem to understand that John is the resistance leader because he was trained to be that basically from birth, before the danger even occured he was the only one with awareness, training and inside knowledge through his mom. I heard too many people tell that the other way around and missing the point that he grew up with a mother hellbent on training him and also his own personal Terminator, that was always his youth. And if you say to yourself "duh", great, just trust me, for a lot of people it's not...

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount9852
    @anotheryoutubeaccount9852 23 дня назад

    Actually, singer/songwriter Jody Watley made "hasta la vista baby" super popular in 1987. Then, T2 rehashed it, and it then became iconic from '91 on.

  • @znk0r
    @znk0r Месяц назад

    "Come with me if you want to live." That pickup line never worked for me.

  • @MadcapMatt
    @MadcapMatt Месяц назад +4

    There are actually 3 different cuts of Terminator 2. The theatrical cut, an extended cut with more scenes showing the t1000 glitches and a few more added context scenes and an alternate ending that would make any sequels impossible. Lastly there's one that included the deleted scenes but used the original ending. That's my personal favorite.

    • @brucechmiel7964
      @brucechmiel7964 Месяц назад +1

      Mine too. I still have my copy in the liquid steel box.

  • @benjauron5873
    @benjauron5873 Месяц назад +2

    All the promos and trailers made it clear that Arnold was playing the protector in the second movie. None of us were surprised by it.

  • @NathanMalnaa
    @NathanMalnaa Месяц назад +2

    24:15 she accidentally broke his nose there lol
    25:00 while filming in the elevator Linda forgot to put an earplug in and has permanent hearing damage from it but didnt ruin the take either
    25:19 that is considered to be the most realistic nuclear blast ever filmed
    31:20 thats actually Linda and her twin sister lol

  • @39Hundred
    @39Hundred Месяц назад +2

    All of the skeleton terminators are called T-800. They sometimes have thousands of “skin coverings”, each looking like different people. Any skin covering that looks like Arnold is called a CSM-101(Cyberdyne Systems Model-101). A CSM-102 will look like someone else. A CSM-100 will look like someone else.

  • @MrPozaidon
    @MrPozaidon Месяц назад +3

    I love the little details like when the Terminator is asked to "put down the gun" he literally bends down to put it on the ground :'D

  • @Bruce-Wayne79
    @Bruce-Wayne79 Месяц назад +4

    Glad you liked Terminator 1 Kacee, it’s basically a Horror/ Sci-fi/ Romance story, but this is really gonna brake your heart, Kyle said he always wondered what Sarah was thinking about in that picture, the end reveals that she was thinking of Kyle the moment the niño took her picture. 💔 they were perfect for each other, but the timing wasn’t right. ☹️

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Месяц назад +1

    Good to see you doing proper reactions to these masterpieces of a sci fi movies. I watched both Terminator movies a bunch of times as a kid. I like both Terminator movies equally.

  • @usctrojans001
    @usctrojans001 Месяц назад +2

    First, Who Makes someone Watch T2 WITHOUT Watch the OG Terminator?!? Still a Great Movie and Wonderful Reaction. Best Action Film, Greatest Sequel, Best Special Effects (Mix of Practical & CGI). 33:37 "I Wish I could Send a Terminator back in Time and Smack Myself Across the Face" Hehe! 10 out of 5 Stars!

  • @matt_canon
    @matt_canon Месяц назад +2

    19:29 In the later years, Skynet began mass producing T-800s to protect HK Tanks from flank attacks and anti-tank weapons. There were only resources to create human flesh models for T-800s deployed for infiltration purposes. Arnold's is model 101, Franco Colombu is model 102 (Kyle Reese flashback 12:05 ), along with other models not depicted in the first two movies.

  • @Blue-qr7qe
    @Blue-qr7qe Месяц назад +1

    10:28. Halfway through -
    In another reaction to T2, the reactor was convinced by her manager/co-host, etc. to go ahead and watch/react to T2 without ever seeing TERMINATOR. Worse still, her co-host was jabbering away, off-subject, half 'the time.
    So the main reactor was completely lost, uninvested, and distracted. That probably got more comments than any other reaction on the internet, and they were all screaming - "How could you do that?!!! What were you thinking?!!!
    This sucks!!! Are you insane?!!!
    How could you send her in to react to T2, telling her it didn't matter that she hadn't seen TERMINATOR"?!!! On and on. And they were right. So, 'smart move on your part to have gone back to the beginning.
    I enjoyed your reaction very much.

  • @CraigKostelecky
    @CraigKostelecky Месяц назад

    21:15 Well, that's how John was conceived. If Skynet never sent the Terminator to kill Sarah before John was born, he never would have been born. So in a way, they created both themselves and their enemy by sending the machine back. Time travel is fun!

  • @cyberus15
    @cyberus15 Месяц назад

    One thing that isn't obvious is that John Connor = JC = Jesus Christ, born in a time paradox and a saviour.
    Very cool touch.

  • @MKF30
    @MKF30 Месяц назад +8

    It's ok, nobody's perfect 😅I felt the same way as a teenager about the Godfather, felt it was boring. So I gave it a rewatch years later. While it's not the most action packed mobster movie I definitely realized the big deal over it being one of the best mobster movies ever much like T2 is one of the best sci fi action flicks ever.

  • @hanzojapa
    @hanzojapa 4 дня назад

    I like the thoery that there was two John Connors, the first one was a normal child from sarah and another dude, and he ends up being the leader of the resistance, but when Skynet send the terminator after Sarah, Reese and Sarah had their child who became the new John Connor, creating the paradox, but this one would be way better prepared for the war, being trained since childhood, and so was skynet by having the cheap and the arm in the past.

  • @oscarl.3563
    @oscarl.3563 Месяц назад +1

    Funny how she knows every phrase but hasn't seen the movies

  • @LudusAurea
    @LudusAurea 29 дней назад +1

    Bruh Terminator 2 is an absolute masterpiece

  • @15blackshirt
    @15blackshirt Месяц назад +1

    This and Conan the Barbarian helped make Arnold Schwarzenegger a superstar. Linda Hamilton starred in Children of the Corn prior to this. After these are four more films, a TV series, a 3D theme park attraction, comics, novels and videogames. Terminator 2 won four Academy Awards and grossed over $500 million to be the biggest movie of 1991

  • @user-jg5ie8rc1s
    @user-jg5ie8rc1s Месяц назад

    Robert Patrick was insanely good as the T-1000.

  • @marcbraun5342
    @marcbraun5342 4 дня назад

    I love the first Terminator movie, it's one of the rare movies that is perfect. That's why I wouldn't have made any sequels, it's not needed and in this particular story it wouldn't make a lot of sense, at least sequels that again deal with time travel, since everyone learned at the end how time works.
    It's so great to see the reaction of someone who doesn't know anything about the story and who's who. That must have been the reaction of the poeple back then in the cinema. Although I have seen Terminator as a child, certainly too young for it, that's a movie where I've kind of already known the basis of the story. It's the same with famous books like Lord of the Flies, Faust, Metamorphosis, 20.000 Leagues under the Sea, The Time Machine and others, you know the basics before reading it and never get that reaction, "that" experience.

  • @FreshTechCo
    @FreshTechCo Месяц назад

    Shocked that literally 0 reactors in my experience recognize the SWAT team leader that shouted, "Move!" is the tenacious and lovable Agent Schrader from "Breaking Bad". Even with the mask on, his voice is eminently recognizable. Don't know if Kacee has seen Breaking Bad, but I know many I've watched that do this reaction have and never catch it.

  • @dm_brad
    @dm_brad Месяц назад +2

    I love that you were under the impression that the T1000 cop terminator was the guardian. That's pretty much what they were going for initially is to make you think Arnold was the bad guy again.
    I didn't get the pleasure of experiencing the twist when I first saw T2. First time I saw it I think I only caught it in the middle of it and already knew Arnold was the good guy.

    • @michaelccozens
      @michaelccozens 19 дней назад

      You're not alone. The funny thing is that Cameron intended the first half-hour of T2 to be a mystery about who was John's protector (leading the audience to the T1000 for the twist), but the ad campaign for the movie completely ruined the surprise (happened surprisingly frequently back in the day) by making it clear that Arnold was the good guy, so almost no original audience ever saw the movie as Cameron had intended. Fast-forward a few decades, and reaction culture has finally given James the audience he always wanted for T2; people who didn't know who the villain was going-in.

  • @py2k7
    @py2k7 Месяц назад +1

    Good job! Perfect double feature! :)

  • @glennwelsh9784
    @glennwelsh9784 Месяц назад +16

    28:37 That's exactly what it is - a paradox. More specifically, it a paradox referred to as a causal loop. By sending a Terminator back in time to kill their primary enemy, they inadvertently lead to their enemy's birth (because Kyle would've never been sent back in time and subsequently father John) and their own creation. Skynet practically gives birth to itself.

    • @InanisNihil
      @InanisNihil Месяц назад

      Not so much a time paradox and more of a “Jinn particle” these event exists independently of all other existences.. so it’s predestination to always happen… it’s SELF EXISTING.. it’s like the pocket watch example.. man goes back in time to give the love of his life the watch she gave him before they meet to proof he is her future lover.. what’s actually happening is the pocket watch is now a Jinn particle and it’s existent is independent of rest of the universe and will loop eternally to cause this event to always happen exactly in that order when the rest of the universe gets to this point.. basically this event came into existence independent of Big Bang.. so think of a external object/factor intruding into our via an object despite a person making the watch.. the watch was actually never created .. it always existed independently of the creator making it or not.. 💀 only possible explanation for this is Jinn particle which predicts it most be an external independent thing.. so probably like two universe unrelated and unable to interact and would pass right thru each other BUT by chance in a small space interaction this create an anomaly event where both existences interact 🤔 both would need to be external to eachother and eternal in their own right.. 🤔

    • @havok6280
      @havok6280 Месяц назад

      Not really. Kyle says he came from a possible future. That implies multiple timelines therefore there are no paradoxes.

    • @michaelccozens
      @michaelccozens 19 дней назад

      @@havok6280 Not quite. Kyle's future had to occur for him to come to the past. But his actions in the past were what ensured the future from which he originated would occur. So Kyle had to pre-exist himself in order to create the son that would send him back to pre-exist himself. There's no opening in that causality; no place for a "first event" to occur. The time loop always was; there's no other way to explain it. And that in itself makes the loop paradoxical, because the loop has to have had an originating event the very existence of the loop precludes. It can't exist unless it was started, but the fact that it exists means that "starting it" is, was, and always will be impossible.

    • @havok6280
      @havok6280 19 дней назад

      @michaelccozens nope. You're just wrong. Again, Kyle came from a possible future. That means when he traveled back in time, he created a new future, a new timeline.
      SPOILERS
      T2 proves this. In the future, Kyle came from, John blew up the time machine after Kyle went back. He wanted to prevent anyone else from going back. However, T2 occurs in another timeline. In the T2 timeline, Skynet sends two terminators back, and John sends Kyle AND Arnold. That proves multiple timelines exist. Therefore, there are no causal loops or paradoxes. Any action done in the past simply creates a new timeline.

  • @marcbraun5342
    @marcbraun5342 4 дня назад

    28:36 It's not a paradox, quite the opposite. If they would change events, that would be paradoxical.

  • @KimEllis-kt8ei
    @KimEllis-kt8ei 28 дней назад

    Yeah, timing can definitely be a huge factor on enjoying a movie or not. I mean it's not always the case, but certainly can be. Glad you gave this another try and enjoyed it.

  • @rodentnolastname6612
    @rodentnolastname6612 Месяц назад +2

    Of note; John's foster mother was also Vasquez in "Aliens" 😯

    • @hellomark1
      @hellomark1 Месяц назад +1

      And Kyle is Hicks. What's a really great watch is the b-movie "Near Dark" which has a lot of the Aliens cast.

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 Месяц назад

    "The Terminator": The Hero's Journey of Sarah Connor, assisted by Tech. Sgt. Kyle Reese.

  • @johnkelly90
    @johnkelly90 Месяц назад +1

    There’s a great one shot teaser promo made for the movie about a year or so before its release… it showed how these model terminators were made… it didn’t reveal any of the actual movie besides Arnold… but the quick promo actually was good world building.

  • @shanehenry7699
    @shanehenry7699 Месяц назад +1

    The act of sending the Terminator back in time causes John to be born and the eventual defeat of the machines. Iconic films, love them both.

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount9852
    @anotheryoutubeaccount9852 28 дней назад

    19:50 - the protector was "Reese".

  • @UberDurable
    @UberDurable Месяц назад +1

    Not liking any of these two movies is considered Blasphemy!

  • @Uncle_T
    @Uncle_T Месяц назад

    Definitely a good idea to watch the first one before re-watching the second since there are a lot of call-backs and references as you've seen. Both movies are top tier for me but T2 is just on another level.
    And yes Sarah has nice shoulders in T2 lol. I saw it in the theatre when it was released and the whole crowd cheered when we say the first image of her doing pull-ups on the overturned bed.

  • @swiftigoth
    @swiftigoth Месяц назад +2

    "Those are your ancestors...'that's my great uncle!'" I'm dying 😂

  • @nicotti
    @nicotti Месяц назад +2

    Thank goodness you saw the highway ending of t2 rather than the alt ending!

    • @Rhodair
      @Rhodair 10 дней назад +2

      fully agree - although I like many of the other parts of extended, the ending alone makes theatrical cut my go-to

  • @jamesgeorge2852
    @jamesgeorge2852 Месяц назад +1

    Glad you enjoyed them I didn't want to have to unsubscribe from the channel after 2 years 😂... Also the dainty little foot that crushes a skull like a light bulb at the beginning of T2? 😂

  • @oscarl.3563
    @oscarl.3563 Месяц назад +1

    I always preferred T1, but T2 had a much, much bigger budget.

  • @TheNorthlander
    @TheNorthlander Месяц назад +1

    I appreciate how you watching this relatively blind made it so you could enjoy an element of the second movie that the trailers often spoil, that the movie doesn't tell you that Arnold is the good guy this time *until* he saves John.
    A really good red herring, making you think he's the bad guy again, that sadly everyone talks about these days.

  • @ragabashmoon1551
    @ragabashmoon1551 Месяц назад

    Harlan Ellison claimed that James Cameron plagiarized this movie because of a story he wrote about a soldier from the future, and as it was his first movie, Cameron didn't have the money to fight the lawsuit, so he couldn't risk losing so they agreed to a settlement. That's why the movie says "With Acknowledgement to the works of Harlan Ellison" at the end. it was added after the movie left theaters. To this day, all Cameron has said, since the settlement details are sealed, is that Harlan can kiss his ***.

  • @DarkKnightBatman420
    @DarkKnightBatman420 Месяц назад +1

    If you ever get around to watching some documentaries or commentaries, there's something about how this film was gonna make or break Jame's Cameron's career. He actually filmed a lot of this movie without permits and lied to cops asking about them. Fortunately it all worked out and he's gone on to make many great films.

  • @ronnyb5890
    @ronnyb5890 Месяц назад +1

    thats why you should never skip the first part of a franchise, other terminator facts are more explained in the tv show terminator: the sarah connor chronicles, they explain things like the metal is a special hard alloy, difficult to destroy

  • @davidsavage5630
    @davidsavage5630 Месяц назад

    It's kinda funny how if you look at Kyle as Leonardo DiCaprio and Sarah as Kate Winslet how similar their short love story is to Titanic. Two very different people who fall in love and are separated due to human hubris with a technological monstrosity going horribly wrong. A technological monstrosity that begins with a T lol. And the guy dies. In that way, it's always been strange to me how much The Terminator kind of oddly had the seeds for Titanic in it..

  • @animatorFan74
    @animatorFan74 12 дней назад

    Yeah, James Cameron (director) is the king of sequels. He made Terminator 2 and Aliens within a year or two of each other and, in a time and world where sequels are usually much worse than the original, James somehow made awesome sequels which surpassed the originals. He also went on to make the Avatar movie, which you should also see.
    People give the other Terminator movies a lot of crap too. While they're nowhere as good as these two, I don't mind them too much. Terminator 3 has a lady Terminator, if you're interested. :)

  • @Bruce-Wayne79
    @Bruce-Wayne79 Месяц назад

    As for Terminator 2 : Judgment Day , Kacee you should react to the Director’s extended cut, there’s a lot of cool scenes they cut out of T2, including a Kyle Reese scene and an Alternate Ending. 😎👍🏽

  • @aintsam9952
    @aintsam9952 Месяц назад

    29:06 typical LAPD

  • @elodie2404
    @elodie2404 Месяц назад

    The only real Terminator films are the first two films
    James Cameron he never wanted a saga
    In 1984, he created, wrote, directed and produced a big screen nightmare he made in a hospital, but it wasn't very well known yet, the budget wasn't big enough and some of the special effects didn't exist yet. So he was forced to give up some aspects of what he originally wanted to do in order to reduce the budget and get around the technical obstacles...
    For example, originally he had the idea of two Terminators, one good guy who is mechanical (the T600) and another bad guy who is made of liquid metal (the T1000), but he had to give it up due to lack of budget and technological advancement
    The success of the first Terminator film made him so much money that he could now finally bring to the screen the scenario he had in mind from the start
    So, he wrote, produced and directed Terminator 2: Judgment Day...
    That's why we find similar scenes: the arrival of the Terminator naked in front of people who laugh at him before regretting it, the chase on the highway, Sarah Connor wounded in the leg, the factory, the false ending with the false death of the evil Terminator before he comes back to life
    In Terminator 2, James Cameron did not want his work to be taken over by others and become a saga, he killed the Terminator by blowing up Skynet's building, destroying the arm and chip of the 1st Terminator (the one from 1984) by throwing the T1000 into the lava and diving into the lava himself
    The two Terminator films are not talking about cyborgs but about humanity
    An indication confirming that my point is correct and that the threat denounced by James Cameron is not technological but human, is the scene in T2 where two (human) children are playing with toy guns, one saying to the other "I killed you", "No, I killed you ! You're dead!" and John Connor telling the T600 "We're not gonna make it, are we?" and the T600 responding "It's in your nature to destroy yourself."
    The film ends exactly as it should, with the very point James Cameron was trying to make through the Terminator two film :
    "The unknown future rolls toward us. I face it for the first time with a sense of hope, because if a machine, the Terminator, can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too."
    The subject is not cyborgs but humanity!
    There was never supposed to be a Terminator 3 (and therefore no 4, 5 or 6, obviously!), but Hemdale Film Corporation, which is the studio that has the rights to several films including Terminator, went bankrupt in 1991 and sold its entire repertoire, and therefore the inherent rights, to Consortium de Réalisation, a French company owned by Crédit Lyonnais... The exploitation rights of Terminator thus passed to other hands ... In 2003, Terminator 3 was released. James Cameron refused to participate and shot down the Terminator 3 initiative in the media
    He never wanted to make Terminator a saga! But he couldn't do anything about it, the contract with Hemdale no longer existed as the repertoire was bought by another studio, James Cameron had no control over his work at all
    That's why it took so long for him to come back to participate in a Terminator (Terminator : Dark Fate), and in my opinion, he did it knowingly to demolish the saga! So that Terminator would be worthless, lose all credibility
    It was his way of putting an end to the saga.
    James Cameron thought of EVERYTHING to avoid that in Terminator 2 :
    - Miles Bennet Dyson destroyed all his researches
    - the T1000 (made of liquid metal) just fell and melted into the lava,
    - John Connor threw the arm and the chip of the Terminator T800 in the lava
    - all the body of the reprogrammed Terminator has been terminated in the lava as well
    There shouldn't have been a Terminator 3 at all, the fact there is, is by itself a complete nonsense, from what a new Terminator has been built ? How Sarah Connor, the T800, Miles Bennet Dyson and John Connor didn't change the future with all they did in Terminator 2 ? Of course, they did !
    Already here, Terminator 3 is not credible, but they don't care, they released a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th and a 6th Terminator
    The studios were so stupid, they don't respect James Cameron, and they don't respect the public !
    About Terminator : Dark Fate (the 6th Terminator film), James Cameron completely lost the control of it as he produced it, thinking that as a Producer he could manage the film (which is usually the case, the producer manages and the director execute the will of the Producer) but the director, Tim Miller, took the control and refuse to do what James Cameron wanted him to do, so it was over : James Cameron completely lost his creation after Terminator 2 : The Judgement Day
    Doing the other Terminator films is in complete contradiction to the Terminator film basic concept, which is : the future is not set
    By doing sequels and sequels and sequels, the different producers forgot that very important basis and then, the message delivered is completely the opposite to the main concept
    The future is not set means, in the film, that actions today can avoid the machines to attack the human race
    But the producers only focused on this war (forgetting it could be avoided) and on John Connor as a leader in this war, reasoning but "This must happen because the Terminators wanted it not happening", which is a huge breach in the approach of the two first films (that were actually one)

    • @michaelccozens
      @michaelccozens 19 дней назад

      You're, uh, missing the fact that the entire film is based on Harlan Ellison's stories, which is why the plot immediately starts to fall-apart with T2 (great movie, but with a fatal plot-hole). The whole point of requiring flesh-coverings on anything sent back through time was to preclude the obvious possibility of Skynet sending back, not a robot assassin, but simply a powerful nuclear explosive. Skynet might not know which Sarah Connor is the one it needs to kill, and it might not know where in LA she is, but neither of these are problems that can't be solved with a sufficient megatonne yield. As soon as you have non-flesh (ie. the T1000) going through time-portals, that plot chasm yawns-open again.

  • @TahiriVeila13ABY
    @TahiriVeila13ABY Месяц назад

    Terminator and T2 are sooo different. Terminator one is an indie film, an indie film that has aged (in my opinion, calm down) maybe not poorly... but has certainly aged. T2 on the other hand was a gigantic movie when it came out, has aged amazingly (seriously, it's still fantastic) and is one of greatest science fiction films of all time and one of the greatest action films of all time. I could entirely see someone watching the first Terminator and being underwhelmed, and then never watching T2. And what a horrifying thought that is.

  • @hippusmaximus9319
    @hippusmaximus9319 Месяц назад

    At least you were truly surprised by the Terminator switch in the second film. Back in 1991, the crappy marketing and advertising for Terminator 2 ruined the whole surprise within 30 seconds on TV commercials.

  • @angelar7365
    @angelar7365 Месяц назад

    It's always hilarious to watch haters change their mind about something after giving it a real chance. Glad you decided to watch these awesome movies. T2 is one of my all-time favorites, but I also love the first Terminator. I do wish the reactions weren't edited down so much for this video, but it is what it is, I guess. It was still a fun watch.

    • @WheresWaldo05
      @WheresWaldo05 Месяц назад

      I am so happy i am strong minded enough to stick to my convictions and not have to adhere to what everyone else does or wants. No lemming or sheep here Bubba.

  • @venomdust1
    @venomdust1 Месяц назад

    Great review

  • @TheCastellan
    @TheCastellan 23 дня назад

    1:33 I recommend the 1953 War of the Worlds (EVERYONE only seems to watch the Tom Cruise one :P ), and its direct TV sequel series in 1988-1990, which lasted 2 seasons.

  • @silverroses1101
    @silverroses1101 Месяц назад +9

    I think I'm the only one who likes the 1st Terminator (1984) more than the Terminator 2, well the action is better in Terminator 2 but for some reason I remember the 1st one more than the 2nd, I had to rewatch Terminator 2 on 2-3 different occassions cause I couldn't finish it in one sitting.

    • @calisthenicsmachine9725
      @calisthenicsmachine9725 Месяц назад +3

      You are not alone. T2 is nowhere near as good as the first one. It's actually not good at all. It's great for cgi and action, but the story and themes of T2 are abysmal. T2 is a massively overrated film and is responsible for a lot of the mess in the franchise. People couldn't stand the humor in T3 when T2 is what actually started all of that silliness to begin with.
      T3 is actually more dark, bleak, and mature than T2 it's much more in line with the first film. Then you have dark fate where people complain about them killing off John connor and they hated carl, but the fact is T2 made john connor irrelevant, and T2 had already humanized the terminator so carl is really just an extention of Uncle Bob. Then those people will say we'll it should have ended with T2. Yeah, like, that's any better ending things with T2 completely shits all over T1. If you're going to go down the sequel route, it should have ended with T3. Technically, though, it really should have only been T1 with the story of the first film.

    • @silverroses1101
      @silverroses1101 Месяц назад +2

      @@calisthenicsmachine9725 yep that's probably it, The human vs cyborg in T1 is way better, the pacing is better, the chemistry between Kyle and Sarah is better. Kid John Connor in T2 is annoying too. I just like the vibe in T1 more.

    • @feudist
      @feudist Месяц назад +1

      @@calisthenicsmachine9725 I'm with you.
      Have you seen the TV series? I think it moves the story forward well after T2. It also returns to the darker themes of T1. Lena Headey BRINGS it as Sarah, and Summer Glau is great as the "protector" terminator. untrustworthy and manipulative, she is carrying out Future John's instructions, not Sarah's or Young John's. The Future isn't what it used to be.

    • @hendrikscheepers4144
      @hendrikscheepers4144 Месяц назад +1

      Same.

    • @SirHilaryManfat
      @SirHilaryManfat Месяц назад

      You're not the only one. Terminator 1 is a masterpiece of 80's gritty atmospheric Sci Fi, much like Aliens. While I think Terminator 2 is undeniably a great sequel, it's far too polished and self aware. Also, I just couldn't get on with the bratty John Connor character and those awful "No problemo" type quips. Even though the action of T2 is considered better, there's not a single moment that compares to the first movie's gunfight in the police station.

  • @Mr.E_Bodhako
    @Mr.E_Bodhako Месяц назад +1

    at one point i would have liked to see a Terminator, Aliens, Predator crossover, not now though, maybe in the future, or another timeline, then Kacee could simp for predator some more to win

  • @raybernal6829
    @raybernal6829 Месяц назад +1

    Yesssss... Kacee❤❤🔥🔥 fun watch as always gorgeous... The sequels though not as great as these two they're still fun. Arnold as always plays his role awesomely 😊

  • @Jacana2k6
    @Jacana2k6 Месяц назад

    The first one was very much an unknown director indy film. Technically Piranha 2 was his first. lol Aliens really cemented the idea that he could do big budget projects. Good observation that Sarah in essence becomes a terminator in the film. The foster mom of John, Jenette Goldstein, was in 3 of Cameron's films, Aliens, T2, and Titanic. Lance Hendriksen has 3 as well. Bill Paxton has the most roles in a Cameron film at 4. All three worked together in Near Dark.

  • @ItsBrianSilva
    @ItsBrianSilva Месяц назад +1

    I like the 2 paradoxes of these movies.
    Skynet sent a terminator back in time, which helped create the terminators.
    The resistance sent a soldier back in time, which helped create the resistance.

  • @TheScribe1.0
    @TheScribe1.0 Месяц назад

    31:18 Fun Fact: that woman play fake Sarah is actually Linda Hamilton’s twin sister.

  • @SwordmasterKane
    @SwordmasterKane Месяц назад

    It's so good to see genuine surprised reactions to the reveal in Terminator 2 that Arnold is actually playing the good guy this time. The whole movie built him up to be the ruthless killing machine from the 1st movie while Robert Patrick seems to be the more sociable, friendly person (and conveniently the movie cuts and looks away from all the atrocities he actually does in the beginning). The moment when the T-800 actually shields and protects John should be a big surprise. Unfortunately, the marketing department of this movie blew it by giving this away in every trailer they made.

  • @michaelbrown593
    @michaelbrown593 Месяц назад

    Hi Kacee!😊 Trash men actually do pick up from businesses late night/early morning. They can not do residents during that time. Kacee is not a Terminator hater anymore!😉 Yeah, not seeing the first Terminator film first, would have a large affect on seeing T2. Great reactions to the original Terminator film, Kacee!!!!🎬👏👏👏👏

  • @user-gg4mg8wx7n
    @user-gg4mg8wx7n 26 дней назад

    I just realized the huge timeline issue they created. Supposedly Sarah is supposed to be 29 in this movie??? So assuming she was only 18 in the first movie (which she was pretty clearly Oder than) then John would have been ELEVEN in this movie tops?

  • @srrizo69
    @srrizo69 Месяц назад

    Great reaction!

  • @ryandeffley7652
    @ryandeffley7652 Месяц назад

    This reminds me of How I Met Your Mother when Ted Mosby makes every woman he dates watch Star Wars as a test. If they hate it, they fail, and he dumps them.
    Your husband was giving you the Mosby movie test with T2, and you failed it. Luckily, he didn't hold it against you too badly. 😂

  • @spartanJkut
    @spartanJkut Месяц назад

    fun fact they ruin the twist of Arnold being the protector in the commercials for the movie.

  • @alexgaray1216
    @alexgaray1216 Месяц назад +2

    What?!! Kacees a terminator hater I was not expecting that

    • @JB-wy8fc
      @JB-wy8fc Месяц назад +2

      Not anymore

  • @borjankosarac3645
    @borjankosarac3645 Месяц назад

    The rules of this franchise and time travel are more loosey-goosey than “Back to the Future”; Kyle Reese was always John’s father so there’s a measure of time being circular… Yet there’s also a real possibility that the future can be changed; that’s what Part II shows.
    How you take this is up to you, of course; they’re like the best duology of films that most definitely never spawned a franchise of increasedly-diminishing returns.
    But seriously, if you saw the trailers for the sequel you’d be spoiled for the big twist that the Arnold Schwarzenegger T-800 is a reprogrammed hero to the villainous T-1000 played by Robert Patrick… See how Peacemaker’s dad used to play bad guys! He really should have gotten more roles, but at least the ones he got he was always excellent in.

  • @matsv201
    @matsv201 Месяц назад

    24:02 I love how Cameron include different kinds of people so everyone can feel included, really nice
    24:16 I like this scene a bit less

  • @mattp6089
    @mattp6089 Месяц назад

    The second one isn't what I consider to be better. They're part of the same glorious story. But the second one is certainly far more polished.
    That's what you get when you throw 16x the budget from the first movie at Jim Cameron, and you give him a bigger budget than any previous movie.
    Steelworks, vat full of molten steel. An alloy that is decidedly solid at room temp if you further alloy a mimetic polyalloy into it I imagine.

  • @Intellectual1Warrior
    @Intellectual1Warrior Месяц назад

    First she was afraid scared couldn't even balance her check book. Then she became strong now she goes bravely into the storm. Character Growth.

  • @Raven5150
    @Raven5150 Месяц назад

    This is the first time Arnold said ill be back

  • @jpipolagunas
    @jpipolagunas Месяц назад

    You should also watch Terminator 3. Not as good as the first 2, but I think its worth a watch, especially for story wise purposes

  • @lukeemmanuelhammond6024
    @lukeemmanuelhammond6024 Месяц назад

    Movies I hated the first time but absolutely love now: Office Space, Thelma and Louis.

  • @TheLiquidRemix
    @TheLiquidRemix Месяц назад

    Remember when movie writing was well thought through - Man i miss those days

  • @famohsen
    @famohsen Месяц назад

    29:35 hank before he moved to New Mexico

  • @Trontasia
    @Trontasia Месяц назад

    When a person says Terminator 2 is better, they're not saying 'Forget the first one'. They're just saying it's better; because it's original to the first, more advanced, properly upgraded, with variations + additions = how you make a successful sequel. 😎😊 It's radical 👍. Back then, people used to say 'Excellent!' with their arm out, thrusting their arm down, kinda like this '💪' but with their elbow more down. It was a fun time in history. 😊

  • @michaelhawk-fitz7563
    @michaelhawk-fitz7563 Месяц назад +2

    I hate onions..the taste the texture, the smell..people say fried onions are different, carmelized and whatnot..I've never tried them..I just imagined myself eating some friend onions..I almost threw up on my laptop..

    • @danholmesfilm
      @danholmesfilm Месяц назад +2

      I would imagine friend onions aren't very good lol

    • @ephraimwinslow
      @ephraimwinslow Месяц назад +2

      20$ says your family keeps a running count of dishes you eat that have onions in them (that you don't know about).

    • @ephraimwinslow
      @ephraimwinslow Месяц назад +1

      @@danholmesfilm Crispy ones get put on hamburgers and sandwiches all the time.

    • @michaelhawk-fitz7563
      @michaelhawk-fitz7563 Месяц назад +1

      @@ephraimwinslow I sure hope not..lol..my mom used to add onion soup mix in lieu of onions to burger patties..it was terrible..she'd say "you can't even taste them!"..I would say "then why even put it in?"..

    • @WheresWaldo05
      @WheresWaldo05 Месяц назад

      One day you will grow up......