I am a 85-91 OLTL background music freak and i cannot agree more. 8:16 played both of Gabrielle's themes. Those themes created for Argentina in 87 were some of OLTL's best ever.
@@upontheventura ruclips.net/video/0cShYfSJB3Q/видео.html. They used it quite effectively throughout the death of Beth in '94, yet it's still weird to hear it without Gabrielle. The Jason actor breaks my heart in those 4 videos. I hated the new background music, and despise Linda Gottllieb. How did they manage to continue using this music cue?? I don't understand how the copyright works.
That is not the same theme- but the chords are very very similar- almost like someone tried to rip off the Score Productions theme! I have tried so hard to track down OLTL's Music Director from the Rauch era- Jonathan Rigg- but he is nowhere online and possibly very old.. I found someone who was an Opera singer in the 60's and thought maybe it was him... He also was the Music Director at As The World Turns in the 1970's@@dpodsful
It's pretty cool seeing Kevin and Viki have these heart to hearts. He's her first born legitimate child.... her and Joe Riley. And you've seen them over the years have good and bad conversations, even when he was a kid in the 80s.
@@seanm6215 In any case, it's not right to call a child "illegitimate." A more appropriate term is an _out of wedlock birth._ It's high time we retired the practice of stigmatizing children just because their parents were not married to each other when the child was born.
I had forgotten how much I like Elaine Princi as Dorian! Robin Strasser really owned the role but Elaine did a great job and is my 2nd favorite actress to play the part.
It's so funny that I started watching in 89 so Elaine was the only Dorian I knew. I wish they recast her as Melinda as b/c once Robin returned I could sense as a kid how great she was. Even Kelly bishop who played Mrs Wyman could have been addie or Melinda. The actress who played addie was a featured prisoner w/ Dorian when she killed mitch in self defense. It's too bad b/c Robin only returned b/c she hated Paul Rauch. Ironic as she was only 22 when he cast her in atwt. He was actually obsessed w/ her but she couldn't stand him.
@@nattyps3160 I was watching when the original Dorian, Nancy Pinkerton, arrived on the show. She had some great storylines but the character really came alive when Robin Strasser took it over. I remember when Robin played some character on All My Children who kept hallucinating scenes of her dead father. The character and the writing were terrible, thank God the role of Dorian came her way later on.
I Agree a Powerful Character like Gabrielle Medina deserved her Very Own Theme's. Just knowing that these are some of Finoa Hutchison(Gabrielle's) finale scenes until her return in 2001 makes me want to cry 😢. I dont think I had ever got Attached to a Greedy, Sceaming Character like Gabrielle Medina so Fast, especially after Andrea Evans left OLTL in January 1990 for 18 years, Gabrielle filled that Much needed hole that Andrea left. I have watched Daytime T.V since I was 4 years old, & I Never followed a Actor to another Soap until Fiona Hutchison started a New Daytime Diva (Jenna Bradshaw) on Guiding Light. In the Previous episode (on this Channel Classic OLTL) there were alot of talk of Why Fiona left OLTL after reading them All, it seems the Majority was stating ABC had put a Cap on the Actors Pay & Fiona left because she didn't feel she was being payed enough for All the Long day's & Weeks of Hard work she was putting in. Remember this Channels creator pointed out at the end of the posting of 1989's episodes that Fiona Hutchison was the Actor that was #1 in the catagory of which Character was shown the most in 1989 & Fiona won the #1 spot for 1989. Keeping Finoa Hutchison on would have been worth every $$$. So from what All of Y'alls comments ststed, Fiona knew she was worth the Extra $$$, & so she left & spent almost a Whole Decade playing Jenna Bradshaw on GL. Once I found her Characters introduction & watching her w/ all these New Characters (at least to me) I went back to that channels Oldest episodes (1989) & restared watching, Guiding Light, it has it's very Own touch / Unice Story telling I was Hooked & almost a Whole decade of Finoa meant the World to me. I Hope & Pray that the person that works so Hard to bring us Every episode can find those missing episodes of Gabrielle's sentasing & her Last day, B4 returning in 2001.
Erika Slezak's reaction to Kevin's wish to move back home is yet another of the great examples of why she was and still is television's greatest actress!
I love how Dorian cuts straight to the chase...she tells Gabrielle outright that she'd pay her for an interview for the _Intruder._ Viki, in contrast, resorts to manipulation, emotional blackmail and guilt-mongering to get Kevin to move back to Llanfair.
I loved the recycled sets. what became Bo's house in 1989 was once a restaurant in Argentina and before that was the house where David and Jenny were held captive in Vienna!
It is exactly & in 93 became the infamous frat room where Marty was brutally assaulted. They used that room for years in characters nightmares & where Powell took todd hostage in late 94 to wrap up that storyline. They often recycle sets. The palace hotel for years before was micheals hotel the holden towers & Pamela opened it at one time. The last owner til the 2000s was Renee who let so many people live there for free like Luna Rebecca
@@seanm6215 No, Viki was a snob...unlike Dorian, she hid her snobbishness better. Dorian had her faults also, but in contrast to Viki, Dorian never tried to mask her flaws. Dorian was more honest than Viki. Viki was only "worried" that it would tarnish her golden image in Llanview to have Kevin estranged from her and was "worried" that her son was associating with "low-class" people in a "ghetto," which would also spoil her hoity-toit high-society image. Viki was all about "high-class" appearances and keeping up phony appearances. This is a large part of why Dorian detested her.
@@seanm6215 The thing with Dorian was that she was an introvert on top of being brash, which often made her come across as "anti-social," which many in Llanview assumed was snobbishness. Dorian disliked crowds, large parties and small talk and was not a socializer. Dorian was also extremely selective about who she became close to and was not one to friend just anybody. Dorian did far better with one-on-one gatherings and a small group than a horde of people. And she loved doing lots of things alone...solitary walks through nature, solitary dinners and solitary winter retreats at ski resorts as introverts do. This made her different from most of Llanview, which was dominated by highly social extroverts. Viki and many others in Llanview's elite crowd felt threatened by Dorian because she was so different as well as independently wealthy. Dorian had lots of lovers like Viki, but in contrast to Viki, never "needed" a man to bolster her.
@@seanm6215Dorian I think was humbled fast when she helped prison reform & visited her old prison mates in the 80s & I thought she was incredibly gracious when she was on death row b/c of viki who killed Victor also Dorian never told anyone about being held hostage like an animal in the secret room or put in a box in the cabin cellar. When viki confessed in all honesty she would have been committed in the real world for insanity as hee alters in the 90s committed serious crimes like arson attempted arson attempted murder of Clint & Dorian assault of Kevin & of course kidnapping for weeks Dorian. Plus murder of Victor. At least her judge Said " how do we know your dangerous alters won't come out again & burn down another building ?) Then Nora made an argument that viki was abused was fully integrated & no longer a threat It's horrible but viki would still have have gone to a mental ward not the fancy Switzerland facility where she returned w/ a private nurse got to live home go in to see Nora's sister for therapy & was released into clints care which lasted 5 sec b/c she on her own saw a therapist a couple times. I mean she didn't get court ordered therapy Also Dorian always looked out for her own. Blair robbed her blind helped send her to death row & Dorian heard she tried suicide & immediately sent her to a spa & let her live in her penthouse rent free while she bought a mansion. Which I don't blame her the woman was in jail for months then on death row in a tiny cell in solitary. Viki was ruthless in sending Dorian through thar then for months tortured her w/ her alters. I mean her alter was gonna burn the banner down & Dorian at least called the cops to get everyone out & stop tori. Tori didn't care people were in the building. I hated they made Dorian a child abuse victim too but at least it gave Robin an incredible story. I guess they also wanted to keep the viki/Dorian connection going as they bonded a bit over childhood traumas. It did annoy me that viki blamed Dorian for Kevin getting burned in Ohio. It was his choice to chase after his gf Cassie. Again I hated the 2000s so I won't even address that ridiculous tess bess Wes jes d.i.d & Niki took Jesse to bars. First off Niki never came back until she shot Johnny dee & never took over after just convos. Jesse was aged to like 9.
Kevins apt has been used at least 2 other times. It was tina & gabs halfway house & in 93 the infamous marty frat party scene as it was college kevins dorm room. Its just funny over the years to see the same sets over & over which i totally get this was filmed in nyc & was a 24/7 operation. The palace was micheals hotel & b4 that the holden towers. Also where max & Gabrielle in march of 90 got engaged became the bayberry inn where todd & tea went in 97 for christmas where dorian & blair went to set up David & where skye lived in 2000 when blair cut up her clothes. Also maxs bar was the set of the defunct ryans hope. It also became rodis then a club blair finally owned. The sun set dissapeared once roger left in 03. The only sets that remained until the end were llainfair & the buke mansion. Seems in the 80s & early 90s the only sets where everyone lived was the vernon inn or the hotel that i mentioned was the palace or holden towers or micheal grandes hotel. Lastly grandview became martys house then dorians. The stables at asas was used constantly. Also vikis carraige house was used so many times where she & joe boys & tina lived as a teen where she met clint then marilynn & wade lived & finally where cassie kevin joey kelly & drew lived. SAd that cord & tina never seemed to build their dream house on llantano mountain. Viki & asas cabin was used in the 90s which was never seen again nor was alex & carlos penthouse which became todds penthouse lived in by todd & blair todd & tea teas neice then todd Again.
I know! Only megan tina & todd were her interesting relatives. I don't acknowledge the cheap knock off rewritten bimbo Natalie as obviously a tina lord replacement. Could it be more obvious? Red hair big blue eyes the curvy figure w/ cleavage cut to here. Plus her ridiculously marrying mitch which I never followed anyway just if it was on. Plus I'd return for certain stories that revisited the Golden age. Funny in 08 the 40th anniversary were all knockoffs of Rauch in 86/87 bo revisiting Asa kicking Maria & mama maria off the ranch. Viki in heaven & Sarah w/ Tina's return going over a waterfall. I think she was stopped. So I watched a little of AE's botched return only watched bo as Asa in the bttf storyline. Gigi Rex Natalie were annoying as heck. Anyway yes vikis kids except megan were so boring. I only enjoyed kirk Geiger as Kevin & wished they kept Leeann as a rival to viki. Viki never even bothered w/ duke or spoke of him her only grandchild for years. Anyway Joey when NF played him was only interesting when he & Dorian had their thing going. Even his talent was wasted once that ended & he just dated Kelly & left the show since he did nothing. Her kids were all leaches as they were either living at llainfair or the carriage house or worked as c.e.o's in b.e. London. Joey's returns as a priest a Jimmy Olsen at the banner or his last return I only watched as oltl was getting cancelled & the only parts were tina& cords happily ever after w/ senator Dorian lord getting them a marriage liscense as a favor to viki. Even Erika was so annoyed that her newsletter leaked where she hated her only role was " there there " to her trollop twins antics. Erin Torrey as Jesse they never made interesting & had her get pregnant & changed her parentage several times. Mitch was her dad ! Really in 86 viki didn't know she was having twins when my cousin born in 81 has his sonograms in the 50s the dr told my twin aunt s mom she was having twins from the stethoscope picking up 2 heartbeats.
I love the carlo gabby scenes. Its kinda cute he calls her that. I know whats gonna happen & it sux. Oltl was so foolish to low ball fiona. The show went in the toilet in later 91. Paul rauch was already bored of the show by the time they got to eterna. So love that this kevin gets leeann pregnant. The show screwed up. They should have made her & viki adversaries being the dirt poor daughter of duann who viki hated. The whole town hated.
I'm not surprised he got the beautiful Leeann pregnant at only 18 & he even married her. Viki never really cared for duke. Such a beautiful child. This was her first & only grandchild & she never mentioned him or visited. Viki never cared about any of her kids in the 90s. Her alters were her & she hated her kids as jean tori Tommy etc. Dorian was the one took vikis neice & nephew 's hands & walked them down the aisle to be in tnb's wedding. Dorian was so much more a matriarch of her family then viki was. All viki cared about was her next husband & her wars w/ Dorian b/c " father " married her. Dorian put both her sisters in amazing places for the mentally ill. She payed Kelly's boarding school & took her in for years. Blair robbed her blind while Dorian was on trial & death row & still sent her on a spa & let her live rent free in her penthouse when she moved into Marty's mansion. She also was way more compassionate to viki who was out to get her. Dorian never told anyone that vikis alters locked her up put her in a wine cellar than the secret room. I usually liked bo but it was gross how on his 1st day as commish he arrested Dorian w/ zero evidence other than vikis 20 year obsession to have her arrested when victors death was ruled natural
@@nattyps3160 Viki's irrational hatred of Dorian was borderline paranoid. I wrote and posted a fanfiction...it's complete now...where Dorian is living in DC. Her life is quieter and more peaceful now, but she still suffers from PTSD from being persecuted in Llanview. She seeks counseling to deal with her PTSD and begins to heal while re-uniting her family and serving as a senator.
@@Coryraisa seriously. Dorian was way more self made & a success than viki in addition to a better matriarch of the cramers. Until sadly but I blame Blair & that wacko Victor who was as " todd" a horrible father starr getting pregnant & jack being a total pychotic. Anyway I get viki had d.i.d which Rauch started down that road w/ vikis d.i.d explained that Victor was rewritten as a pervert sleeping w/ 18 year old Irene viki watching. Plus I believe the secret room made him a lunatic as he had camers in every room of the house plus other affairs. Making tina vikis sister was brilliant as Rauch found his ingenue in a more mature Andrea. Anyway the incest story is horrific & Erika even said as much as it gave her emmys & great story she Said Victor no way would have done that. Why they killed him off I'll never get since he drove more story when he was dead. Eterna tina d.i.d todd etc. Anyway Dorian had her backstory as a victim too as the show did give Robin great story ( how didn't she win an Emmy!) Anyway Dorian had no parents was sent to boarding school obviously brilliant as she became a Dr. Viki started that commitee to have her liscense revoked but I love she was always respected like Larry would always say " dorian ur a doctor u know what I'm dealing with" & I loved when Larry allowed Dorian to assist w/ Blairs c section. She kept Blair calm & he was able to share her medical knowledge w/ Larry & facilitate her own knowledge to calm a hysterical Blair down. Like explaining why she had to lay on her side to help the baby's positioning or explained the tunes & ivs Larry was more clinical but Dorian was able to break it down as her aunt about how the tunes were there for this or her lungs were not developed enough etc. I always loved that scene b/c it's the only time I saw Dorian allowed in as family but also as a respected physician so Larry was able to as I said speak to her b/c she still was a Dr. U can't take that away. Plus Dorian I believe still could have practiced
@@Coryraisa jealousy I wasn't born or watching & no tapes exist of original Dorian & Victor & viki but from what I understand viki got dorians medical liscense revoked as she was on the hospital board years later viki was rewritten to being the one board member to not vote in favor of this. Either way she started this hearing. I don't know but I believe Dorian couldn't practice anywhere. It's like being disbarred. Also not sure if this prompted Dorian to marry Victor b/c now she had no income from a degree I'm sure she put herself through.
I was so sad during these episodes in 1991 knowing I wouldn't be hearing Gabrielle's scheme theme much longer.
I am a 85-91 OLTL background music freak and i cannot agree more. 8:16 played both of Gabrielle's themes. Those themes created for Argentina in 87 were some of OLTL's best ever.
@@upontheventura ruclips.net/video/0cShYfSJB3Q/видео.html. They used it quite effectively throughout the death of Beth in '94, yet it's still weird to hear it without Gabrielle. The Jason actor breaks my heart in those 4 videos. I hated the new background music, and despise Linda Gottllieb. How did they manage to continue using this music cue?? I don't understand how the copyright works.
That is not the same theme- but the chords are very very similar- almost like someone tried to rip off the Score Productions theme! I have tried so hard to track down OLTL's Music Director from the Rauch era- Jonathan Rigg- but he is nowhere online and possibly very old.. I found someone who was an Opera singer in the 60's and thought maybe it was him... He also was the Music Director at As The World Turns in the 1970's@@dpodsful
@@upontheventura Was the 3:06 version of the theme never played during Fiona's time?? Are you sure?! Same instrumentation and chords.
@@upontheventura ruclips.net/video/K8pIDUM5_Fw/видео.html. Is not 1:58 identical to multiple Max/Gabrielle scenes? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers for the episode the talk between viki and Kevin was so sweet and calm
It's pretty cool seeing Kevin and Viki have these heart to hearts. He's her first born legitimate child.... her and Joe Riley. And you've seen them over the years have good and bad conversations, even when he was a kid in the 80s.
"Legitimate" child? All humans are legitimate.
@@Coryraisalegitimate means parents were wed. Illegitimate is out of wedlock like Megan and Tony Lord who were products of affairs.
@@seanm6215
In any case, it's not right to call a child "illegitimate."
A more appropriate term is an _out of wedlock birth._
It's high time we retired the practice of stigmatizing children just because their parents were not married to each other when the child was born.
Jake is always in a pickle. 😅
I had forgotten how much I like Elaine Princi as Dorian! Robin Strasser really owned the role but Elaine did a great job and is my 2nd favorite actress to play the part.
It's so funny that I started watching in 89 so Elaine was the only Dorian I knew. I wish they recast her as Melinda as b/c once Robin returned I could sense as a kid how great she was. Even Kelly bishop who played Mrs Wyman could have been addie or Melinda. The actress who played addie was a featured prisoner w/ Dorian when she killed mitch in self defense. It's too bad b/c Robin only returned b/c she hated Paul Rauch. Ironic as she was only 22 when he cast her in atwt. He was actually obsessed w/ her but she couldn't stand him.
@@nattyps3160 I was watching when the original Dorian, Nancy Pinkerton, arrived on the show. She had some great storylines but the character really came alive when Robin Strasser took it over. I remember when Robin played some character on All My Children who kept hallucinating scenes of her dead father. The character and the writing were terrible, thank God the role of Dorian came her way later on.
I Agree a Powerful Character like Gabrielle Medina deserved her Very Own Theme's. Just knowing that these are some of Finoa Hutchison(Gabrielle's) finale scenes until her return in 2001 makes me want to cry 😢. I dont think I had ever got Attached to a Greedy, Sceaming Character like Gabrielle Medina so Fast, especially after Andrea Evans left OLTL in January 1990 for 18 years, Gabrielle filled that Much needed hole that Andrea left. I have watched Daytime T.V since I was 4 years old, & I Never followed a Actor to another Soap until Fiona Hutchison started a New Daytime Diva (Jenna Bradshaw) on Guiding Light. In the Previous episode (on this Channel Classic OLTL)
there were alot of talk of Why Fiona left OLTL after reading them All, it seems the Majority was stating ABC had put a Cap on the Actors Pay & Fiona left because she didn't feel she was being payed enough for All the Long day's & Weeks of Hard work she was putting in. Remember this Channels creator pointed out at the end of the posting of 1989's episodes that Fiona Hutchison was the Actor that was #1 in the catagory of which Character was shown the most in 1989 & Fiona won the #1 spot for 1989. Keeping Finoa Hutchison on would have been worth every $$$.
So from what All of Y'alls comments ststed, Fiona knew she was worth the Extra $$$, & so she left & spent almost a Whole Decade playing Jenna Bradshaw on GL. Once I found her Characters introduction & watching her w/ all these New Characters (at least to me) I went back to that channels Oldest episodes (1989) & restared watching, Guiding Light, it has it's very Own touch / Unice Story telling I was Hooked & almost a Whole decade of Finoa meant the World to me. I Hope & Pray that the person that works so Hard to bring us Every episode can find those missing episodes of Gabrielle's sentasing & her Last day, B4 returning in 2001.
The Argentinian theme was my favorite.
Erika Slezak's reaction to Kevin's wish to move back home is yet another of the great examples of why she was and still is television's greatest actress!
I love how Dorian cuts straight to the chase...she tells Gabrielle outright that she'd pay her for an interview for the _Intruder._
Viki, in contrast, resorts to manipulation, emotional blackmail and guilt-mongering to get Kevin to move back to Llanfair.
Kev’s apartment looks a lot like Tina & Gabrielle’s room at the halfway house……
I loved the recycled sets. what became Bo's house in 1989 was once a restaurant in Argentina and before that was the house where David and Jenny were held captive in Vienna!
It is exactly & in 93 became the infamous frat room where Marty was brutally assaulted. They used that room for years in characters nightmares & where Powell took todd hostage in late 94 to wrap up that storyline. They often recycle sets. The palace hotel for years before was micheals hotel the holden towers & Pamela opened it at one time. The last owner til the 2000s was Renee who let so many people live there for free like Luna Rebecca
Viki would probably call my apartment awful.....considering it's not Llanfair. Lol
Yeh, mine also. Viki is a horrid snob.
@@Coryraisa no, that was Dorian....biggest snob on the show.
Viki was just worried.
@@seanm6215
No, Viki was a snob...unlike Dorian, she hid her snobbishness better.
Dorian had her faults also, but in contrast to Viki, Dorian never tried to mask her flaws.
Dorian was more honest than Viki.
Viki was only "worried" that it would tarnish her golden image in Llanview to have Kevin estranged from her and was "worried" that her son was associating with "low-class" people in a "ghetto," which would also spoil her hoity-toit high-society image.
Viki was all about "high-class" appearances and keeping up phony appearances.
This is a large part of why Dorian detested her.
@@seanm6215
The thing with Dorian was that she was an introvert on top of being brash, which often made her come across as "anti-social," which many in Llanview assumed was snobbishness.
Dorian disliked crowds, large parties and small talk and was not a socializer.
Dorian was also extremely selective about who she became close to and was not one to friend just anybody.
Dorian did far better with one-on-one gatherings and a small group than a horde of people.
And she loved doing lots of things alone...solitary walks through nature, solitary dinners and solitary winter retreats at ski resorts as introverts do.
This made her different from most of Llanview, which was dominated by highly social extroverts.
Viki and many others in Llanview's elite crowd felt threatened by Dorian because she was so different as well as independently wealthy.
Dorian had lots of lovers like Viki, but in contrast to Viki, never "needed" a man to bolster her.
@@seanm6215Dorian I think was humbled fast when she helped prison reform & visited her old prison mates in the 80s & I thought she was incredibly gracious when she was on death row b/c of viki who killed Victor also Dorian never told anyone about being held hostage like an animal in the secret room or put in a box in the cabin cellar. When viki confessed in all honesty she would have been committed in the real world for insanity as hee alters in the 90s committed serious crimes like arson attempted arson attempted murder of Clint & Dorian assault of Kevin & of course kidnapping for weeks Dorian. Plus murder of Victor. At least her judge Said " how do we know your dangerous alters won't come out again & burn down another building ?) Then Nora made an argument that viki was abused was fully integrated & no longer a threat
It's horrible but viki would still have have gone to a mental ward not the fancy Switzerland facility where she returned w/ a private nurse got to live home go in to see Nora's sister for therapy & was released into clints care which lasted 5 sec b/c she on her own saw a therapist a couple times. I mean she didn't get court ordered therapy
Also Dorian always looked out for her own. Blair robbed her blind helped send her to death row & Dorian heard she tried suicide & immediately sent her to a spa & let her live in her penthouse rent free while she bought a mansion. Which I don't blame her the woman was in jail for months then on death row in a tiny cell in solitary. Viki was ruthless in sending Dorian through thar then for months tortured her w/ her alters. I mean her alter was gonna burn the banner down & Dorian at least called the cops to get everyone out & stop tori. Tori didn't care people were in the building. I hated they made Dorian a child abuse victim too but at least it gave Robin an incredible story. I guess they also wanted to keep the viki/Dorian connection going as they bonded a bit over childhood traumas. It did annoy me that viki blamed Dorian for Kevin getting burned in Ohio. It was his choice to chase after his gf Cassie. Again I hated the 2000s so I won't even address that ridiculous tess bess Wes jes d.i.d & Niki took Jesse to bars. First off Niki never came back until she shot Johnny dee & never took over after just convos. Jesse was aged to like 9.
Kevins apt has been used at least 2 other times. It was tina & gabs halfway house & in 93 the infamous marty frat party scene as it was college kevins dorm room. Its just funny over the years to see the same sets over & over which i totally get this was filmed in nyc & was a 24/7 operation. The palace was micheals hotel & b4 that the holden towers. Also where max & Gabrielle in march of 90 got engaged became the bayberry inn where todd & tea went in 97 for christmas where dorian & blair went to set up David & where skye lived in 2000 when blair cut up her clothes. Also maxs bar was the set of the defunct ryans hope. It also became rodis then a club blair finally owned. The sun set dissapeared once roger left in 03. The only sets that remained until the end were llainfair & the buke mansion. Seems in the 80s & early 90s the only sets where everyone lived was the vernon inn or the hotel that i mentioned was the palace or holden towers or micheal grandes hotel. Lastly grandview became martys house then dorians. The stables at asas was used constantly. Also vikis carraige house was used so many times where she & joe boys & tina lived as a teen where she met clint then marilynn & wade lived & finally where cassie kevin joey kelly & drew lived. SAd that cord & tina never seemed to build their dream house on llantano mountain. Viki & asas cabin was used in the 90s which was never seen again nor was alex & carlos penthouse which became todds penthouse lived in by todd & blair todd & tea teas neice then todd Again.
3:30...LOL, welcome to the real world, Viki!
1:24...LOL, Viki looks so out of place in Kevin's place.
And her prissy, arrogant stance sure washed the air out of the apartment.
I had ZERO interest in Viki's "aged up: kids in real time in the early 90's and 30 years later,still boring as hell to me.
I know! Only megan tina & todd were her interesting relatives. I don't acknowledge the cheap knock off rewritten bimbo Natalie as obviously a tina lord replacement. Could it be more obvious? Red hair big blue eyes the curvy figure w/ cleavage cut to here. Plus her ridiculously marrying mitch which I never followed anyway just if it was on. Plus I'd return for certain stories that revisited the Golden age. Funny in 08 the 40th anniversary were all knockoffs of Rauch in 86/87 bo revisiting Asa kicking Maria & mama maria off the ranch. Viki in heaven & Sarah w/ Tina's return going over a waterfall. I think she was stopped. So I watched a little of AE's botched return only watched bo as Asa in the bttf storyline. Gigi Rex Natalie were annoying as heck. Anyway yes vikis kids except megan were so boring. I only enjoyed kirk Geiger as Kevin & wished they kept Leeann as a rival to viki. Viki never even bothered w/ duke or spoke of him her only grandchild for years. Anyway Joey when NF played him was only interesting when he & Dorian had their thing going. Even his talent was wasted once that ended & he just dated Kelly & left the show since he did nothing. Her kids were all leaches as they were either living at llainfair or the carriage house or worked as c.e.o's in b.e. London. Joey's returns as a priest a Jimmy Olsen at the banner or his last return I only watched as oltl was getting cancelled & the only parts were tina& cords happily ever after w/ senator Dorian lord getting them a marriage liscense as a favor to viki. Even Erika was so annoyed that her newsletter leaked where she hated her only role was " there there " to her trollop twins antics. Erin Torrey as Jesse they never made interesting & had her get pregnant & changed her parentage several times. Mitch was her dad ! Really in 86 viki didn't know she was having twins when my cousin born in 81 has his sonograms in the 50s the dr told my twin aunt s mom she was having twins from the stethoscope picking up 2 heartbeats.
I love the carlo gabby scenes. Its kinda cute he calls her that. I know whats gonna happen & it sux. Oltl was so foolish to low ball fiona. The show went in the toilet in later 91. Paul rauch was already bored of the show by the time they got to eterna. So love that this kevin gets leeann pregnant. The show screwed up. They should have made her & viki adversaries being the dirt poor daughter of duann who viki hated. The whole town hated.
Kevin should have stayed put in his apartment and not let that manipulative Viki guilt him into moving back to Llanfair.
I'm not surprised he got the beautiful Leeann pregnant at only 18 & he even married her. Viki never really cared for duke. Such a beautiful child. This was her first & only grandchild & she never mentioned him or visited. Viki never cared about any of her kids in the 90s. Her alters were her & she hated her kids as jean tori Tommy etc. Dorian was the one took vikis neice & nephew 's hands & walked them down the aisle to be in tnb's wedding. Dorian was so much more a matriarch of her family then viki was. All viki cared about was her next husband & her wars w/ Dorian b/c " father " married her. Dorian put both her sisters in amazing places for the mentally ill. She payed Kelly's boarding school & took her in for years. Blair robbed her blind while Dorian was on trial & death row & still sent her on a spa & let her live rent free in her penthouse when she moved into Marty's mansion. She also was way more compassionate to viki who was out to get her. Dorian never told anyone that vikis alters locked her up put her in a wine cellar than the secret room. I usually liked bo but it was gross how on his 1st day as commish he arrested Dorian w/ zero evidence other than vikis 20 year obsession to have her arrested when victors death was ruled natural
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So true! Yes, thank you!!!
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Viki's irrational hatred of Dorian was borderline paranoid.
I wrote and posted a fanfiction...it's complete now...where Dorian is living in DC.
Her life is quieter and more peaceful now, but she still suffers from PTSD from being persecuted in Llanview.
She seeks counseling to deal with her PTSD and begins to heal while re-uniting her family and serving as a senator.
@@Coryraisa seriously. Dorian was way more self made & a success than viki in addition to a better matriarch of the cramers. Until sadly but I blame Blair & that wacko Victor who was as " todd" a horrible father starr getting pregnant & jack being a total pychotic. Anyway I get viki had d.i.d which Rauch started down that road w/ vikis d.i.d explained that Victor was rewritten as a pervert sleeping w/ 18 year old Irene viki watching. Plus I believe the secret room made him a lunatic as he had camers in every room of the house plus other affairs. Making tina vikis sister was brilliant as Rauch found his ingenue in a more mature Andrea. Anyway the incest story is horrific & Erika even said as much as it gave her emmys & great story she Said Victor no way would have done that. Why they killed him off I'll never get since he drove more story when he was dead. Eterna tina d.i.d todd etc. Anyway Dorian had her backstory as a victim too as the show did give Robin great story ( how didn't she win an Emmy!) Anyway Dorian had no parents was sent to boarding school obviously brilliant as she became a Dr. Viki started that commitee to have her liscense revoked but I love she was always respected like Larry would always say " dorian ur a doctor u know what I'm dealing with" & I loved when Larry allowed Dorian to assist w/ Blairs c section. She kept Blair calm & he was able to share her medical knowledge w/ Larry & facilitate her own knowledge to calm a hysterical Blair down. Like explaining why she had to lay on her side to help the baby's positioning or explained the tunes & ivs Larry was more clinical but Dorian was able to break it down as her aunt about how the tunes were there for this or her lungs were not developed enough etc. I always loved that scene b/c it's the only time I saw Dorian allowed in as family but also as a respected physician so Larry was able to as I said speak to her b/c she still was a Dr. U can't take that away. Plus Dorian I believe still could have practiced
@@Coryraisa jealousy I wasn't born or watching & no tapes exist of original Dorian & Victor & viki but from what I understand viki got dorians medical liscense revoked as she was on the hospital board years later viki was rewritten to being the one board member to not vote in favor of this. Either way she started this hearing. I don't know but I believe Dorian couldn't practice anywhere. It's like being disbarred. Also not sure if this prompted Dorian to marry Victor b/c now she had no income from a degree I'm sure she put herself through.