3 Reasons I Switched to the Series III StudioLive Mixer from Presonus
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Love your videos on all topics "home studio", Joe! Thanks for putting them out.
you're the best Joe. Thinking I'm gonna convince my church to purchase one of these for services. What incredible capabilities it has. Thanks much for the insight.
I purchased two of these mixers. One, 32S-based ecosystem for my church and one 64S-based ecosystem for my band. They are fantastic mixers, and when combined with powered mains and stage monitors, you have a dream live system - easy to set up and tear down. I use Protools for my DAW and am going to see how the 64S works in DAW mode with Protools.
Great video.
Great video Joe - Not just this one... all of them. Really appreciate you posting this.
Great video! I bought it for the reasons of using it when I need to mix live, as well as using it in a personal studio situation.
Hi Joe! Just got a sick deal on the same exact mixer. Cant wait to get it in the mail. Really looking forward to start working on it and checking out your videos talking about.
Can't wait for the DAW mode! Wow... an AWESOME all in one mixer/control surface!
Thanks for doing this! My 32 should be here tomorrow. I have a motif 6 a MV8800 a MC 909 and a DJ setup using 2 Technics 1200 and a USB numark mixer. I hope the folks over at Guitar Center don't lose patience helping me with getting the wires I'll need.
Sounds like a good set up. I would like to upgrade soon. Going to keep it in mind. Right now I use a Digidesign digi 003 control board.
Good news is they are planning on adding additional fat channel "plugin" style effects/eq/comp etc... and with the Waves plug in server over AVB (soon), we'll be able to run low to no latency live, studio mix, and DAW mix with their plugins... what a fantastic time to be doing this sort of stuff!
That's pretty neat
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Watched this a good few times Joe, it’s all made great sense buddy, I’ve now just ordered my 32 S ( series iii) Thanks 👍 Startled Bunny is me!! 💥☠️🎸
Give more sessions. Ur absolutly right that veriouse insturment can change their sequences very easily and sound comes without dely. Thanks sir go ahead.
I agree with Strong Tower also the Tascams DM 24 and 3200 were very easy to learn and use with a lot of the past and present DAWs.
Cool
Can you do a video on how you have this board wired into all of your other equipment like your computer
Hot Child in the City. Running wild and looking pretty. Your dad is so cool!
Finally stepping into your world, Joe, with Presonus. Picking up a CS18AI and RM32. Lots of similarities with the two boards...
Nice!
Farout! Thanks for the videos Joe!
Great Video Joe, Keep up the great work and have a nice day.
Thanks!
I use a big 64 input analog console, but recently purchsed a Presonus 32SX.. Love this mixer!
I have the 16, love it!
Joe, question here do you Record by USB not firewire? didn't ppl say that Firewire was faster and better then USB? how exactly are you recording your signals through the Mixer?
Nice Review. Be nice if it had channel inserts. Do you know of any way to strap an outboard compressor on the mix bus?
Can you make a video showing how you use this mixer to record to studio 1? What I'm curious about is when you are recording a band, does the mixer work as the interface and does it record each channel of audio separately and simultaneously? So if you have a band and you are using 15 channels, can you record all 15 channels at the same time and each one record to it's own channel in studio 1? I'm in the market to upgrade from my current set up and I'm heavily considering this same set up that I see you are using. really glad to have come across your channel and this video! Thanks for what you do
hi Joe
Just bought the studiolive 16 series 3
really glad. The problem is i cant get my faders to work...my sound is always on even if faders are down :(
2nd, they dont move automatic?
im a noob with that monster...
So is this also an audio interface? And can you record directly onto the mixer and then send to your computer via USB? I'm considering the quantum 2 for my home studio (just getting started), but I'm wondering how to incorporate something like the studiolive 16 and the quantum TOGETHER. I just don't know how. Any suggestions would be helpful.
hey Joe. I'm thinking of buying a Presonus studiolive 24 series 3, but I watched a lot of youtube movies but nobody shows you how the sound of this mixer sounds. i now have an analog mixer the power dynamics pdm s1603, this has always done a good job, only i want to switch to a digital mixer, for my home studio
Hey Joe, great video! Another reason to have a mixer is to bridge the gap between analog and digital production. It also affords the ability to add analog warmth to a digital recording without sacrificing the advantages on mixing in the box. I believe this hybrid concept is being incorporated by more and more studios!
Your conflating a few different concepts. Those who wish to use analog and mix in the box wouldn’t use this type of interface/mixer. As it is not analog at all
Most serious studios have their channel strips on racks , Avalon tube preamps for mics, rack effects, synths , all the stuff you might want, but the main thing is so have plenty of channel strip preamps.
You can then run each of those to a channel on a mixer , the mixer doesn’t add any warmth in my experience you don’t want a zeroed out mixer to add ANYTHING you don’t dial in.
Then they will have D/A and summing gear to get it in and out of their DAW.
It’s much easier now to avoid all that and run your channel strips directly into the box using a mixer/audio interface like this presonus. However you don’t want to rely on its preamps unless you are a hobbyist or otherwise can afford better gear for each channel strip.
All this is a bit superfluous though unless you plan to track a full band all at once, which many home studio producer/engineers strive toward.
Like the Beatles! Everyone all playing and the studio gets it all recorded perfectly.
This gets better more efficient use of studio time and really helps with bands not used to recording, but can play well live.
However, in my opinion for a home studio you are going to be way more successful financially if you have a high quality audio interface , with 2-8 inputs , and at least two Avalon tube preamp channel strips, and the real key is to invest in a few HIgH end microphones a Neumann condenser microphone super cardioid a dynamic (Shure sm7B and or electro voice re)Better to record one at a time or 2 at a time , and have killer mics and preamps.
Even less experienced musicians will pony up to record with you as they can hear the difference with your gear vs a studio with all the gear needed to record as my mentor would say with his thick accent “RECORD LIKE BEATLE” .
Just my .02
Nice stuff and I will have to upgrade my Presonus mixer. I have Studio one V3 now and love it
Nice!
so dope....I had the Tascam dp24 porta studio back in the day but wasn't what I was looking for now got the Behringer xtouch control surface love it but that thing there looks like a beast maybe one day hahahaha
Great mixer ,I also you it with Reaper as well.
Happy for you Joe Nice Job & explanations. when you made this (2017) now 2020 looking at sW website the Studio Live 16.0.2 would be for me. Thoughts on that Mixer. Price of $1000 Vs $4000. Could I still use this as a Control Surface & Fat Channel Plugs?
hey there; i have a lil bit latency in pursuing this issues so i feel like some update would be helpful if you dont mind...so now do we do routing with this digital controller machines? i mean; do they have something like those (analog console style of) preamps in them? or do they only integrate with the software which handles that input providing business within the capability of dedicated soundcard thus being only an interface to make things operate rather smooth...the thing im confused about is that if they have preamps then do they have AD/DAs built in? and if, if so, how good are they, i mean you know is it not the main arguement about soundcards today a) preamp quality b) dsp capabilities...and finally if this right there is the final solution why people go for like crazy for that UADs which i guess is like twice the price...thank you.
Hi Joe, thanks for the video. I own a Studio Live 16.0.2 and I love it, but lately it is letting me down. The monitor and headphones are giving me no sound. My computer sometimes doesn't recognize the mixer. I was really disappointed with the support on these issues at Presonus website. A lot of people complaining online about it. I even considered replacing it for the Allen & Heath qu-16. My question is, did you had any issues like I did with your previous model, and is it fixed on the series III. I would love your comments on it. Many thanks
Surprised they never had motorised faders from the get go. Something I was running on a Yamaha Pro Mix 01 over 22 years ago.
I might have to give presonus a try again in the future. I had a series 1 and sold it for an X32. Love the X32 very powerful in the studio and running FOH for shows. It's getting a little long in the tooth. We will see what they come out with in 5 more years.
What did you get it’s been 5 years
I struggle to find any information about the playback function. Can the SD/USB play MP3/Wav files and has an autostop function? For my theatre group, it will be a great advantage.
Looking to get a new small live rig. How do you think the presonus stacks up against some of the other brands in that space like Behringer, Allen & Heath, Sound Craft, etc.?
In my basement, I have powered EV speakers EKX-15P 1500W 15" and set it at -8db. For vocals singing, I set this mixer at 30db to hear nice sound. Mixer gets warm unlike my older soundcraft mixer si expression 24 which -6 to -24 and remains cool. What am I doing wrong? Any tips are greatly appreciated. Pretty confused, lol.
Question Joe - I like your videos by the way, some of the other versions of Studio Live have motorized faders , well maybe I am wrong one place I was looking to buy advertised it had them , are you sure it's only the series III ? Also you talk about DAW - well I don't like Studio One - I switched from Pro Tools to Cubase for a lot of smart reasons, and trying out the Studio DAW did not beat my Cubase but I think this acts as a nice ASIO interface for Cubase also? do you know much about it.. ?
Hi, I'm not sure if you ever ended up mixing on the board itself, but if you have... Can you run your tracks, from say Pro Tools, out onto the individual channels on the board (say DAW output 1, to channel 1 on the desk, and so on) and process the tracks with the fat channel, etc .. and then print the mix back into the DAW?
Hi, you made a mixer setup for drummer and for Bassplayer in your video (thats great) how many different of these mixes can i setup in totaly
Can you compare using this versus the Behringer x-32 producer in your home studio. Im really confused and dont know which i should go with
Great vid man! Any new info on when DAW support will be available? Thanks!
Hello everyone, I just bought my faderport v2 and I would like to know how to configure it in a simple and clear way to avoid confusing my mind because no instructions.
I use both cubase pro 10.5 and protools. please help
Dos anyone know if here is an update for the board to be used with other daws?
I almost bought the Midas M32 but came to my senses and bought an API. Nice unit but I am too old school unfortunately....;-)
I’ll be looking for your instructional videos. If you have any. I’m sold on this.
CAN YOU RECORD MIDI NOTE DATA USING THE DIRECT MIDI INPUT/OUTPUT IN THE STUDIOLIVE 32 SERIES III?
Is your fader port redundant? I am thinking about getting the StudioLive 32 and I noticed there is already a transport there.
HEY BRO, your great!!! Doest this controller work with Protools.... as a controller i can't find any info on it on line....
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing. New subscriber👍🏻🥁
I'm interested in your setup, is there a list or something where the hardware you're using is listed?
Im wondering. I got studiolive 32sc for couple of months now. Using it with fl studio as recording vocals and guitar and that it does great. why the faders tho dont work or mute buttons? when i reduce the volume from mixer it doesnt come out in fl studio reduced. how to fix this? I love to use faders, now I find no purpose to half of this board. Can I get them work. How do you use em Joe?
Hey Joe. Thanks for all the vids you make. Very helpful stuff!
My bro surprised me with a new 32sc for my (very small) studio space. I'm just getting into it. But I agree that the latest improvements to them are great. The only thing for me is tracking in 48K max on those. I have other pro studio interfaces at up to 192K. I do track at higher resolution for some projects or mix at 96K often because clients' files. Do you use the unit as your primary interface or bus out to another unit?
Does it have effects like reverb delays distortions and are you able to use it easily with FL Studio?
Question: Now that is almost 3 1/2 years since this video was made, can the Control Surface feature work with other DAWs...If yes, do you know where we can check a list of compatible DAWs....Nice video. Gave you a sub too....
Phil
Hello Joe, is there a way to do automix like the duncan automix on the studio live consoles?. I usually need to do 6 panelist taking and it would be great to do an automix. Thanks, great channel.
yoooo what M-Audio speaker model is that? I've never seen those before
Definitely interested in THIS video series of yours as it progresses. I've been drooling over the Series III as an upgrade to our SLAR16, but I can't justify the cost. Yet. :-) Would be harder to justify if we'd gotten the SLAR22 instead, but it wasn't released until recently. Adding a separate multiport compressor would easily justify the cost difference... Hmm.
Enjoy the series, Joe.
Will it be the same if I combine StudioLive 16R with fader port 16? I can get pretty good deal on StudioLive 16R from auction and so I have a plan for my next studio shopping.
Now I'm interested! I've been running my "all Hardware" studio for 20 years. I've sold 2 of my 3 ADATs and my big desk. I'm making my move to digital, but I still want my hands on controls. Please make more videos as you work with this mixer so us old schoolers can make the transition.
Got plenty more on the way.
Just grab an SSl duendo or an Avid S6 basic frame.
Great video!
Thanks John
Hi Joe, enjoy your videos. Bought a 64S roughly 6 weeks ago. However, over USB and an iMac 2013, getting sporadic drops outs of audio? Any ideas why? Secondly, sometimes certain USB channels are really quiet on an aux mix only, e.g. a kick is loud on main mix but non existent on Aux 1. Only happens sometimes but noticing it as get more experienced with the mixer. Cheers.
Can anyone plz tell me if the presonus studiolive 24 is compatible with adobe audition and fl studio?? I can’t find that information anywhere and I really wanna purchase this mixer asap; but I don’t wanna purchase it if it’s not compatible.. someone help plz!
Can the FAT be used to offload DAW "FAT" plugin processing to the mixer instead of only applying to incoming audio (Like Universal Audio hardware does)?
Quick question. could you guide me on how to connect my “home studio”? I have imac 27inch presonus 16.0.2 (sub) presonus e5 power monitors (x2). Just wondering if I need anything else before finalizing my purchases!!!
Also would I need a di box or can I connect guitar/bass direct into this mixer?
Hey Joe, Do you have any experience using an iPad or tablet with the series III's at all? Reason for asking I'm a drummer and on my current 16.4.2 mixer I have to drum check out the levels in virtual control then go over to the mixer and adjust. Can you use whatever the equivalent to VC is on the series III to adjust your input signal gain? That would be huge for me to be able to setup and sound check right from the kit!!! Thanks love the videos keep em coming!
Hey Joe am a new PreSonus studio live mixer user, and i happened to have some problem with USB connection lost nearly every 2 minutes, i don't know what to do with all the money i put down to buy it. if you have a solution please help??? PreSonus studio live 32s mixer
Hi Joe, DO I NEED to use STUDIO ONE or can I use Ableton also. Please advise
Thanks
hey Joe, could you do some videos about the daw mode beta of the sl24? best regards :)
If u already had a Presonus Series III would u still buy an SSL UF8? I'm buying the SSL UC1 and was curious about the UF8 which is its companion. Thanks!
So could I use one of these with Reaper easily?
DAw only for Studio One ? what if i add would like to control the UAD console ;) ?
Can see the Faderport still has a home on your desk. Appreciated your vid on that as a newbie, considering it as an entry point. Wonder if you still find it gets use as you upgrade your gear? eg for remote triggering away from the desk
It is one of my favorite pieces. I imagine it might be made obsolete when DAW mode comes out for the StudioLive, but otherwise, it is a KILLER one-fader control surface.
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you still use the mixer?
hey im Cris and i would ask you because i think taht i will buy a digital mixer from presonus. i have seen in the internet there are many but i want to buy the Presonus StudioLive 24.4.2 Digital Mixpult but its an old mixer the new mixer cost over 1000€/$ i have seen on an online shop its not soo expensive because its an old mixer . noe my question can i use the Presonus StudioLive 24.4.2 Digital Mixpult whith studio one 5 Artist???
Dude, thank you so much for this video, its almost the one thing presonus has forgotten about. Its not at all clear from their vids and website if its any good in the studio, it seems like they're selling it much more to the live/live recording market. As you say in your video, I'm looking for home studio, decent mic inputs, control surface for studio one, but I'm not sure if I'll ever take it out live
I've been using StudioLives in the studio for years. Love 'em.
Thanks Joe, so, I've been looking at all the options, and I basically am looking for a "hands on" experience, using studio one 3 in the studio. And it does seem like there are a million options from presonus, do I go with a rack mixer and cs18AI?, or a quantum with a cs18AI, or some version of the studiolive, of which there seems to be several. I know the series three is the latest, but it doesnt yet have an active DAW mode right? so when it does, will it have layers, so I can control as many channels as I need to in the software? I'm not actually that interested in taking it on the road, although that's a nice feature. its all just ??????s at the moment? Do you have any insights here?
Does this digital mixer sound good as the analog SSL Big Six doing live performances?
What do you mean "analog"? It was the _analog_ Neve Necam flying faders that began flying faders in the first place!
The best thing about flying faders is when you swap between sessions, the faders instantly move to where they were last time you opened that session.
Even without saving the settings as presets yet? Wow that must be awesome! I am actually looking at this and the Behringer X32 for our church.
@@seanvgmusic3630 you have to save each session but that’s very quick and easy to do. Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time with the Behringer.
@@officialWWM Oh thanks for the heads up! That greatly helps! Cheers!
@@seanvgmusic3630 no problem, good luck with it :)
Joe, I work for my local school district. We had a 24.4.2 donated to us. A big improvement over the analog mixer that we had been using.
However, the Compressor doesn’t work in any channel. I’ve been in audio for many years, I’m pretty sure that I gave it set correctly, and have the latest firmware update.
It appears this was a common problem with this mixer. Did you have this problem, if so, how did you fix it.
I’m putting in a request to replace this v 1 with a new ... PreSonus, Soundcraft, or Allen & Heath. Budget about $2,500.
Anyone have suggestions?
You provided a link to the other video that you talked about anywhere
Thats dope..only reason why i dont use physical mixers no more because they limited with tracks..on my computer its unlimited...example if i have a 16 track mixer and using 30 tracks in studio one! I dont like how it would sync
If I would like to keep my UAD Apollo interface . How would be the advantage if I would combine the presonus consol and my UAD Apollo ? Great videos . Thanks
I'm sure you can do it, but I wouldn't.
Hey Joe, great videos (all of them), I have a Studiolive 16.4.2 and considered upgrading, therefore, beyond the pluses you mentioned, are there other important benefits that YOU feel has been worth the purchase for you? Thanks again for all you do, Rock On Dude!
The ones in this video are the main ones.
I like the concept I just wish there was detailed metering per channel and the ability to clock the audio interface externally ..not really sure how the built in interface compares to higher end converters
I agree about the metering. Their solution is to use the iPad app and set it to metering or to use the Universal Control software, which has a pretty slick metering readout, but I agree that's not as nice as having all the meters right there in your face.
Your video very informative, thanks, I want to buy one of these digital mixer for live recordings, pls guide me,thanks
amzn.to/2IUgcQT heres the link I used
Can the 8 faders on the right be used for daw control?
awesome video!!!! what kind of desk is that??
Sound Construction here in Nashville custom-built it for me back when I got the STudioLive 24 classic
Joe for someone want to go into business as a studio eng. This would be great. I don't see myself recording more than 16 instruments and that is really reaching. As of now I only record myself, and producer, mix master, and promote my own music. Can you do a video on why a Faderport 1, 8, and 16 would be more suited for our needs. I just bought a 16. Cassie O'hanlon convinced me to go that route and I need justification. It seems it amy be perfect for me but...
What monitors are they in the video pls
I own a 16.4.2, pre-AI, and had the Series III been around earlier I might have chosen it over the Allen & Heath Qu-32 I bought a few years later. PreSonus got rid of every shortcoming and idiosyncrasy in the old Studio-Lives with their new stuff. I know of people who eschewed motorized faders just to have the X-max pres, which are super quiet, super linear and super clean. Plus, you buy a PreSonus mixer and they give you everything you need except mics and monitors for giggin' and recording. That DAW button, by the way, is hyper-cool.
Yeah can't wait to see how DAW mode works.
Why is your room or studio not acoustically treated?
W - is tha actual live sound better than the older generations?
I remember it to be pretty bad compared to many of the equals at the time, such as soundcraft si and the X32.
The preamps are the same. But with the new fat channel stuff the EQ's and comps sound way better.
Has DAW mode been released by now?
Now you know good for you!
can the Fat Channel be used to control other plugins like can you swap out their plugins for say Waves or UAD ones?
When they release DAW mode I'll be able to tell you for sure. I honestly don't know.
Nice options and mixer, thinking about this mixer for our church but at 2:22 seems like faders respond late after the touch of the mix buttons. Is there an option to speed up the faders in settings? Also when faders move, is the clicking noise normally that loud or is the mic close to the board picking it up?
Thanks for these videos as i cannot test mixer myself because local guitar center and Samash music stores still don't have a demo to try.
Nope, can't speed up the faders. Doesn't seem slow to me, but I've not used tons of other digital boards. Not sure if that's a problem though in a real session or performance, right?
All faders make noise when they move, but it's probably exaggerated a little bit with the audio from this video.
Joe Gilder thanks for a quick response but I just came across an interesting reply from Rick Naqvi from Presonus when someone else asked a few questions about the mixer and that was one of the questions when he had the Sweetwater video for the series 3 mixer, Rick said the faders have an adjustable response time under master settings so you can set them up the way you like. This is great news, maybe this will help you out as well. Thanks again.
Nice!
So can you get the sliders to act more like the X32/Soundcraft desks? Would speeding them up increase wear+tear?
I don't understand how all these "newer" boards are coming out with this technology now when the Tascam DM3200 which is a much older board and no longer in production, has had motorized faders, DAW control, 32 ch I/O interface, surround mixing capabilities, 100% flexible routing and more since it's release in 2005. Why is it that these companies are just catching up with this technology?
Not sure. There must be some reason the DM3200 was discontinued. :)
Much like the Mackie D8B I purchased back in 1999.
Just a small opinion: I guess TASCAM and many other brands are great companies but BAD in marketing 😁 whereas Presonus & Focusrite particularly are very smart in reaching wide range of customers and they know how to put delicious "marketing flavors and spices" that make the their things like WOW plus their competitive prices and the way they listen to customers, interact with them, update products based on customer needs, etc.
Tascam sold the company to Gibson (bad idea) and Gibson felt that the industry was moving to more of a piece by piece, a la cart type work flow where you would have everything separate as opposed to having an all-in-one mixer. I do understand that there are a lot of people working that way now, however there are a lot that like the tactile nature of a mixer and the ability to have your pre's, monitors section, control surface, etc, all-in-one. I happen to own a DM3200 and love it and there a lot of guys that do as well and are hoping that Gibson/Tascam gets their act together and relaunches a new DM series.
a good desk will sell its self
Thanks for your video. I really enjoyed how you can explain so clearly everything I need to know to my level of understanding. I can't say that I have true professional experience when it comes to recording. But, I really want to learn. Presonus is the only company making hardware that will allow one to do both live stage and recording studio platforms. It almost seems that you don't need to purchase full rack hardware anymore. One can simply invest in a mixer similar to yours and have purchase Studio One. So there you have it your very one one stop shop recording and live sound rig. Now my question to you is, can I just buy the RML32AI rack and do everything via touch screen PC? Please share your thoughts I'd like to know your opinion.
That or check out the new series 3 RM mixers. They just released 'em.