Sharks are not killing machines of course, but they are wild animals and the less chances taken around them the better, also it's not like there aren't any cases of shark attacks on divers, and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
I watched a show on abalone divers years ago and Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. I remember this show so well because they followed a few divers and showed how they felt and what their routine was for diving for abalone, but one man never made it to the end of the show. He was attacked and killed (apparently) by 2 GWS as he was surfacing. It is still controversial due to the changing story of his captain and partner on the boat. It really messed up a lot people.
Does anyone remember the name of the show? I have seen it. It a bit overdramatic, but it think it was cut short because of someone being hurt or killed by a great white.
@@mechanikos84 Abalone Wars. 2013 Discovery Channel. They almost didnt send it to network because of his death. He was the sweetest man and the one MOST nervous about diving with the increase of GWS in the water. Once the GWS became protected, they began to rise in numbers….obviously.
Yep, I remember that! You also have to think how many Abalone divers in South Africa are from poor communities that just don’t go reported due to the legality around Abalone fishing in South Africa.
Just because some people dive and swim with GWS it doesn't mean that now it is considered a Golden retriever. It seems that the guy knows what he is saying. And by the way Grizzly man was also living with bears until that one day...
Im afraid you don't fully understand Abalone environment. Also in several othrr places around Australia and South Africa, the sharks have become quite agressive due to cage shark diving tourism. This forces researches and explorers to use cages to stay safe because sharks have associated humans with food, although not the humans themselves. It's madness to dive there without a cage. The cage is quite strong as well, you definitely got that one wrong too. It would be cool if you can host him so that he explains this type of diving.
I'm afraid you guys are the victim of your own stupidity. They became aggressive due to cage shark diving, and have associated cages with food, so you gotta use a cage to stay safe? That is so logical. You say sharks have associated humans with food... they've more than likely associated CAGES with food. And you're all using cages now to stay safe. Brilliant.
NZ refused to give licenses for that reason. The Paua (abalone) divers protested as they rightly thought it would change the Great Whites feeding habits and would be a nuisance to them.
Probably the first video I disagree with you guys. These waters are definitely dangerous and I’d personally feel safer with that cage, even tho it looks stupid. That shark in particular was circling and checking him out. Also there are a lot of people who were attacked while collecting abalone.
I think one big reason for the cage is that the stories I've heard of attacks on abalone divers have generally come from behind. Since they tend to work alone, and without someone to raise the alarm, the cage prevents a devastating surprise flank attack.
Guys, context is everything. They lady swims with the giant sharks probably because they just ate or there’s some detail that’s intentionally left out. If sharks don’t eat people and aren’t dangerous, then what’s the problem? Why are we even discussing this?
Of course sharks aren't just going around actively attacking people. But, there are a bunch of instances of white sharks attacking abalone divers over the years. I'd listen to a guy that's been doing it and working around white sharks for 30+ years, and not brush off things that he does or says works for him. But that's just me.
Divers tend to get a little dogmatic about the glorious majesty of the Great White. Why even argue the point that Sharks don't indiscriminately hunt humans the same way polar bears do? They don't have to be evil killing machines to bite you in half on a whim lol, what are we even talking about?
@@friedsensei It is strange to me how safety conscious they are when it comes to caves, but then when it comes to sharks there is no danger at all apparently. Like they wont enter a cave without 3 lights each and leave immediately if a light dies, but its ok to swim next to a shark and just hope it isn't hungry. Disclaimer: I've never dived so take my opinion for what it is lol
@@thehoror01 haha I don't dive either, here's the thing though I do understand where they're coming from and it's less dumb than your anology but still dumb. I've been driving for 20 years and my seatbelt hasn't had to save me once, I still wear it but I've never needed it. Losing your lights in a cave is a million times more dangerous than swimming with sharks, but what the hell are we even talking about haha. I still wear a seatbelt, and you shouldn't get too comfy around sharks.
@@friedsenseiI agree with this. Honestly I find the discourse about sharks these days incredibly disingenuous. Every time a shark eats a person or bites them in half or sth, it was never just predation. It was always "mistaken identity" or "test bites" or "the water was being chummed" (even though there is no evidence of this in many cases). I get that sharks were demonized before, but this overprotective attitude is just as ridiculous and it's dangerous too. I've seen more than one case where a shark bites through a person's torso and it's labelled as a drowning because there was water in the lungs. How crazy is that? Big sharks like GW are apex predators. Yeah, the probably won't attack you, but why take that chance and swim next to them when you don't have to? Just leave them alone like you would do with any other apex predator.
Actually Abalone divers are attacked by GWS more often than any other groups of people in the water, IIRC there was a study/statistical analysis that I remember from a video where the data we have on people attacked by GWS was compared, and Abalone divers were victims of the GSW more than any other group(IIRC it included swimmers, surfers, scuba divers etc.). I know ive heard many stories of Abalone divers being attacked, and it is a very real danger in the Abalone diver community, and it makes sense. The areas and environments that people Abalone dive in are often rich in sea life(and often are areas frequented by animals like sea lions, and other primary/preferred prey items of sharks). At the end of the day I dont think this idea that "humans arent on the menu" or that attacks just happen because of "mistaken identity" are truthful, maybe some are truly mistaken identity or curiosity, but sharks have the sensory abilities to know the difference between their preferred prey items, and a human, there are plenty of attacks that are deliberate attempts to predate..there is no mistake on the sharks part. Sharks use a lot of energy, especially when hunting for their preferred prey items like sea lions, and they arent always successful. All it takes is a shark whose failed to catch its preferred prey one too many times that sees a human and knows its an easy meal despite it not being what they prefer to eat. I dont think thats an uncommon, or unreasonable reason for an attack...humans do it all of the time, we may prefer to sit down at a good restaurant, but due to time/hunger/convenience we go to a fast food place instead.
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Just like with any dangerous job, you want to reduce the chance of injury/death as much as possible. These men/women are exposing themselves to GWS on the daily, and in environments where they are more at risk than your average diver. They also have a job to do so they can’t be focused on their surroundings the entire time. The less work that gets done means the less money they bring home!
Sharks have an extremely basic brain, almost solely focused on sensory processing, movement control, and basic survival behavior. If they perceive you as tasty or threatening, you're in danger. I believe it is disingenuous to act like sharks aren't a threat to divers. It's like people who handle venomous snakes, thinking they are misunderstood after countless hours handling them safely, only to lose a finger to one. I love Dive Talk, but I hate acting like these animals aren't a major threat.
They are not a "major threat" if you look at the statistics. Driving a motorbike, owning a pitbull or scaling the Himalayas is way, way, way more dangerous, and yet people still do it, willingly accepting the risk and accepting the amount of injuries and deaths that characterize their hobby. We have different sensitivities when it comes to threats. When a human is killed by a shark - "big scandal ! We must change the way we dive !" But when a human is killed in a car accident - that hardly makes it into the news, and will only lead to a change of policies if there is a large number of casualties.
@@anadubar4819 Your argument is badly flawed. You are completely disregarding relative risk in your reasoning. It's obvious that more people die in car accidents and mountain climbing because there is a significantly higher exposure to these risks. Diving with or around sharks is a extremely obscure activity compared to the others you mentioned. It's like saying walking on a tightrope is safer than walking on a sidewalk because fewer people attempt it. The rarity of the activity doesn't diminish its inherent risk.
Just watched a video where a diver fishing for molluscs had his head bitten off by a shark in Mexico last year. He wasn't in a cage
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One of my favorite channels on RUclips right now. I went from being absolutely terrified of diving and deep water to being genuinely interested in the sport and intrigued to give certification it a try sometime.
I do agree with the point that Sharks aren’t actively hunting humans, but also my food isn’t magically showing up on my plate. Mayport in Jacksonville Florida where I am from has a pretty popular open water dive scene and plenty of the divers see tiger sharks regularly. Some divers have gone missing with 0 explanation and only gear found on the sea floor. Sharks? Medical emergencies? Gear mishaps? Improper training? Who knows…. As Gus said they aren’t alive to tell. Despite being very fearful of sharks myself I love to surf and I am interested in diving yet I still do not believe this is a big enough issue to avoid diving or any experience with the ocean as we only live once!
How are divers “vanishing”? If they go with a boat operator is not like the boat will be like “Steve? Anybody saw Steve? No? Oh well, let’s go get a burger” and leave the diver behind. That makes no sense.
@@DIVETALK Brief internet search seems to indicate he's talking about an incident that occurred in the stated location around July of 2021, I couldn't find examples of this happening more then once, maybe someone has better googlefu then me though.
@@Grimsacethank you yes this is one instance I am referring to that was reported very heavily. In no way did I mean to imply this is happening constantly or discourage anyone from diving nor did I mean to imply that divers are leaving their dive buddies behind!
Gus I love you man but if you go Abalone fishing for a living I bet your chances of getting bitten at some point is really high dude. Might not happen for 10 years but then you get bit in half one day. 😂
I think the cage, along with being for extra gear, is also because sharks are sneak-attackers and are more likely to come at people unawares from behind.
Look up Ron Elliott. He dove for abalone at the Farallon Islands by himself. Yes by himself on his boat 50 miles from the coast in a GW hot spot. I saw him in person on a GW cage dive there years ago. He has some crazy videos online.
There is a good tv series called Abalone Divers or Dive Wars Australia, depending where you are. Several series cover the industry and includes the risks of Great Whites. They have taken some of the divers on exiting. The use of the cage is explained, although not all use them. It is worth a watch. 😊
Abalone Wars 2013 was also a really good one. They talk about why Abalone fishing is so dangerous. They follow 3 South African Abalone divers and one of the three didn’t make it to the end of the documentary, he was killed by a great white.
2:00 Don't be silly. When you are being near such a killing machine, the deadliest creature on earth, the A of the Apex predator the world has ever seen. That cage is needed. That cage is bare adequate. Do you have to see a dead shark first and say, sorry we should put a cage on the human? Or would you rather put a cage there so the shark is well protected and we don't have do the I'm sorry thing?
There's quite a few instances of attacks on abalone divers, some of the more gruesome attacks that have been recorded have involved abalone, and this also goes back before the times of cage diving operations and shark tourism so its not just about changes in behaviour based on baiting, etc. Of course it doesn't really stand that these sharks would be regularly and intentionally hunting humans, or the numbers of fatal attacks would higher by many orders of magnitude, but there's a few things to consider, including that the locations people dive for abalone tend to be near seal and sea lion colonies, the water visibility can also be very poor and they also tend to dive without a buddy. That is a pretty bad combination of factors, so interactions between the sharks and abalone divers are far from rare, and that's just the sharks that they see. It's just one of those scenarios where the raw number of encounters in the wrong conditions means that attacks can happen and when they do, they are more likely to be aggressive/predatory style strikes rather than 'just' exploratory bites. And that's probably the biggest factor to keep in mind. Its not about swimming in an area with Great White Sharks, its about swimming in the specific areas where they are actively hunting marine mammals. Abalone diving is basically the recipe of all the things you should avoid doing if you want to avoid negative interactions with large sharks. Fatalities are still ultimately very rare, all things considered, but its still not something to be blasé about. There's an old 1984 documentary called "Caged in Fear" which was about developing the first mobile shark cages for abalone divers which is worth a watch. A bit dated in its ways, but not overdramatised.
There was an episode of either I Shouldn't Be Alive or Human Prey that was about an abalone diver who was attacked by a shark. Admittedly, it was murky water, so probz a case of mistaken identity. But that bloke never got back in the water again after that
Abalone Diving is EXTREMELY dangerous regardless of how murky the water is. Seals feed on Abalone, and Great Whites feed on Seals that are hunting Abalone… and divers look and behave an awfully lot like a Seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality. They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
I unsubscribed from this channel because of all of the comments objectifying women. I subscribed back in '22 when they were just getting going. When you are losing subscribers, you should probably check what you are saying that is alienating people. I know it is a running joke, but it really isn't funny.
Here in San Diego California, we have an increase in White, and Maco shark! Because of the all out protection of the seals. I have heard of people getting bit, and once in a while even expired.
I remember watching Shark Week several years ago, and they were doing a spot on the pros and cons of these abalone cages. They interviewed an abalone diver from Australia by the name of Peter Clarkson. He said the cages were too cumbersome to use, and he preferred to “take his chances” by diving without one. Wonder if he still thought that has he was attacked and completely consumed by TWO great whites?!
I bet you’d be more likely to get bit if you jumped right on/ in front of a shark. Especially if there is bait or around spear fishing. “TheMalibuArtist” channel shows awesome drone footage of Whites checking out or avoiding swimmers. Reassuringly Whites seemly tend to avoid people, briefly check them out or just pass on their way. (Unless they’re trailing bait/catches)
Guy’s, that’s so awesome loved seeing Ramsay with the huge white shark I actually took my 14 yr old daughter on a shark (dive) it wasn’t really a dive it was just a swim but I had a proud dad moment when she got in the water with shark ID Roxy a 15’ tiger shark in Haleiwa, Hawaii on the north shore of Oahu such a great experience with one ocean diving … sharks are amazing and I love diving with them 🤙🏻
Great white behaviour has been shown to vary with geographical location. They are also the perfect predator and often show up without the prey (in this case human) ever knowing they had a look and simply weren't interested in the strange looking "seal" like creature. Their body language shows their intent, most beautifully shown in Ocean Ramsey's amazing encounters. But also let's not forget these Abalone divers are not only in Great White territory, but doing it for 6 - 8 hours each day. Their shark encounters are significantly higher and you only need one "bad" one.
Easy to say Sharks don't attack divers from the studio dude 😂 they dive in those circumstances everyday. Just like you know best in a cave I'm sure they know best in their local area 👌 big fan of the channel
There's definitely been instances of sharks attacking divers but of course it is rare. if you dive everyday with sharks then the chances just go up. that's probably why they use the cages and those cages might look fragile for a shark but I'm sure it will give the diver enough time to get his knife out and I'm sure he knows exactly where to plunge it, at which point the shark will probably not bother as the meal is not worth the risk. I would personally never do this I don't care if the odds are in my favour.
Not a Great White but I was just diving with 5 bull sharks off of Destin and they were curious about me but kept their distance. With AJ season and now Red Snapper the bulls are pretty thick around our wreck right now. I would love to dive with a great white around here.
I’m not sure that going from one extreme to the opposite extreme is justifiable here i.e. sharks are always dangerous to divers to sharks are never dangerous to divers. Specifically great whites in this context. They may not hunt humans, but outliers exist in almost every circumstance where there can be an outlier. Murphy’s law. I mean as divers you factor in every other variable that poses even minimal threat into each dive. You take back ups for your back ups. Why is this any different? Healthy respect and some element of protection. I see this being the most rational decision.
Yes sharks are not indiscriminate human killing machines, but I think it’s a good idea to have a very healthy respect for/caution of these apex predators a) we’re in their environment b) wild animals can be unpredictable and lethal c) I worry if some divers don’t have some healthy fear or are too casual, they might not be respectful like you guys/ be bold around/touch sharks which would not be good for the sharks or could provoke an incident?
I want to be an abalone diver! This looks so amazing. The shark looks like it's just cruising along and maybe a little curious??? I'm not a shark expert, but I've come across them diving a few times, and it's such a thrill to see them that I forget to be afraid!
Abalone Diving is EXTREMELY dangerous!! You have to understand that Seals feed on Abalone, and Great Whites feed on Seals that are hunting Abalone… and divers look and behave an awfully lot like a Seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality. They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
Not sure if they're more agressive here in australia but just in Western Australia alone multiple scuba divers have been killed and/or attacked just in the last 10 years
Ocean Ramsey is . . . . well, I'm sure everyone has their opinion. I think she is not smart for making these videos without showing exactly why the sharks are docile, and exactly why people shouldn't start flocking to whale carcasses and try to film themselves touching the sharks, feeding the sharks, stepping on the whales and getting pictures.....Ramsey should know better: People are inherently stupid and will try to mimic what she's doing.
They need protection because of they are handling food the shark may be interested in. If there is nothing around that the shark is interested in eating, there is less need for protection.
He is not chasing the shark, he drive toward the shark whenever the shark b-line on him. That's what he meant by "confronting" the shark. They have a lot of curiosity and they like to touch things to see what they are. And since they don't have any hands they use what they have at their disposal : their mouth. Most human attacks are curiosity bites. If a white shark truely "attacked" human the same way he does when hunting seals for example, there would be no survivors.
i think all of the gear divers wear perhaps detracts sharks from attacking as it makes people look so alien and not like something that should be eaten. now when wearing only a wet suit or swimming trunks all the while being on the surface and not "confronting" the shark. thats when u get attacked
I really want that hat! Btw, love diving with sharks, but never dove with big ones, only the small Blue sharks that are very common here in Brazil. I saw once a hammer shark, but that was it.
I went in a shark cage once and it was enough to convince me that i will never go diving 😂 Dont get me wrong it was awesome... But seeing the size of the sharks up close and how they move so effortlessly through the water... It makes you realize just how ridiculously helpless you are if the situation went bad.
Naw, Abalone Diving is EXTREMELY dangerous!! You have to understand that Seals feed on Abalone, and Great Whites feed on Seals that are hunting Abalone… and divers look and behave an awfully lot like a Seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality. They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
Henri Murray and Jason Lee are 2 divers off top of my head… there’s been many cases If a shark fails in just a few hunts they get desperate and need calories for future attempts and once they kill and eat a human then we are now on the table… may not be their favorite but in a pinch we will do. Bears are same way and this is why they used to kill any animal that are a human is they understood this but today they ignore it… Today a shark attack is only when there’s witnesses and always mistaken as a seal even though we don’t look, move nor smell like seals
Human is not on a shark's menu. Recently watched a fascinating documentary on sharks produced by National Geographic some 10 years ago. They are incredible creatures with SIX senses! They are not 'out to get us'.... yet we slaughter thousands of them for their fins every year. It's barbaric. They deserve our respect & admiration.
I understand that sharks are necessary and that they are actually really beautiful, but when one that was way bigger than I was came from behind me and swam underneath me while I was snorkeling in Vietnam 😅
Dude, I have been hearing about abalone divers being killed by GWs since the early 80s.. They will tear you up if they are hungry and try swimming at night in Florida I guarantee you will get attacked
We lost a Local Diver here a couple of years ago Hooka Diving on our local scallop Beds on our East Coast. Unfortunately His Daughter Witnessed Her Father being attacked and killed under their Dive boat, So yes they do kill Scuba divers. when i was a young boy Camping at Cockle creek South Tasmania a Scuba diver was killed by a White and his remains were discovered inside a 22 foot white 24 hours later half way up our East Coast. CSIRO tracks whites and discovered they use the currents to travel all around Tasmania all the way to Mainland Australia and return the same way. I only know this as I was part of the team building GPS location devices for whites Tracking. YES Whites do target scuba and hooka Divers in Australian / Tasmanian waters. God Bless
Have you watched shark week about abalone diver there has been a bunch of them being killed while diving that’s why they invented the cage for abalone divers
I love sharks but they do eat people sometimes. They may be rogue sharks like some dogs are classified as dangerous because they keep biting people. And serial killers hunt other humans.
Sharks like most animals have the capability to hunt and kill humans but that doesn't make all sharks evil. I love hearing people talk positively about sharks or any animal that has a bad reputation. 💜🤘.
Often times with sharks if they don’t mistake you as prey they often times are curious and take a bite because they see this strange creature that they’re not used to and they want see if it’s a good food source and spoiler alert for sharks we are not we are too bony and don’t have enough fat so unless like you’re stranded at sea just floating around they aren’t actively hunting humans
Crazy how rare it is to see a shark especially rare to see a 20 foot great white. You would need to actively find it and it may take days or weeks. Lol
It’s not rare for Abalone divers. Seals feed on Abalone and great whites feed on seals, so it’s actually pretty common for great whites to attack Abalone divers because they mistake them for a seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and just about every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality. They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
I also think youtube being saturated with " Diving accident " AI generated poorly documented bandwagoners has hurt the viewership a lot in the past year . The algorithm has probably stopped recommending videos like it used to in the past years . Might need to weather the storm .
The sharks are not coming at you with aggression it’s curiosity they are seeing something abnormal in their natural habitat if you saw something unusual in your house, you would check it out too
Woody is clearly a shark in disguise, saying this so he can get more free meals! Nice try! But yeah, seriously, I would love to see you guys go and dive there - sharks are amazing creatures and you'd capture some amazing footage!
normal divers arent killing fish so they are safe around sharks.. a guy thats diving to kill fish or other sea creatures will be surrounded by blood particles and bits of fish... so it will attract sharks and they will be much more aggressive
It’s like saying Humans don’t eat humans and you saying “oh yeah? Tell that to the families of the people who died in the plane crash in the Andes!” Numbers don’t lie. Sharks don’t attack divers. If they did, there will be deaths every day since there are billions of sharks in the ocean.
Guys… Come on. Comparing the few times ever recorded in modern history that humans had to eat already deceased people to survive an unimaginable and unprecedented disaster…. To living people being attacked and or killed by sharks is apples and oranges.. hence the false equivalency remark. They are not even closely related. People, swimmers, divers, etc.. whatever term you want to use.. are attacked and maimed / killed by sharks every year… there is zero dispute.. I love the channel and watch almost all videos, comment, etc. But there does appear to be some type of animosity toward people or agenda pushing or something… I’m only expressing how it comes across.. When making a statement like “sharks don’t attack divers” Regardless of the numbers… It obviously happens. Sharks attack divers. The numbers don’t lie. It’s almost like you are trying to evoke certain emotions/ responses from people… I could just as easily link numerous videos of sharks attacking people and make an argument that sharks target people for prey… It’s not true… but it would evoke a certain response. Again, I love the channel. Not looking to prove a point or pick a fight.. Just curious what the goal is? It’s not the 1970s anymore… most people don’t think of sharks as mindless killers and don’t believe they need to be hunted to extinction. Most believe they should be protected… So again… what’s the goal?
Why do people find it so hard to understand that doing actions that make you look like too much trouble to be prey makes you safer round a predator......most predators evolved to avoid useless fighting cos injuries are hard to recover from in the wild
yI had a tiger shark coming straight at me I cupped my palm squarely around his snout and steered him firmly to the left, he kept turning that way and just swam away. I wish I could say I wasn't sh*tn brix, but I kinda was....
“Sharks don’t attack divers….i know I’ve seen sharks attacking divers”.
Insane quote.
Sharks are not killing machines of course, but they are wild animals and the less chances taken around them the better, also it's not like there aren't any cases of shark attacks on divers, and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
I watched a show on abalone divers years ago and Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. I remember this show so well because they followed a few divers and showed how they felt and what their routine was for diving for abalone, but one man never made it to the end of the show. He was attacked and killed (apparently) by 2 GWS as he was surfacing. It is still controversial due to the changing story of his captain and partner on the boat. It really messed up a lot people.
I remember that show it was harsh man.
Does anyone remember the name of the show? I have seen it. It a bit overdramatic, but it think it was cut short because of someone being hurt or killed by a great white.
@@mechanikos84 Abalone Wars. 2013 Discovery Channel. They almost didnt send it to network because of his death. He was the sweetest man and the one MOST nervous about diving with the increase of GWS in the water. Once the GWS became protected, they began to rise in numbers….obviously.
Yep, I remember that! You also have to think how many Abalone divers in South Africa are from poor communities that just don’t go reported due to the legality around Abalone fishing in South Africa.
@@heatherhillman9605 Yeah, once great white sharks were protected, their population rose from 3% of the historical healthy population to almost 5%.
Just because some people dive and swim with GWS it doesn't mean that now it is considered a Golden retriever. It seems that the guy knows what he is saying.
And by the way Grizzly man was also living with bears until that one day...
Im afraid you don't fully understand Abalone environment. Also in several othrr places around Australia and South Africa, the sharks have become quite agressive due to cage shark diving tourism. This forces researches and explorers to use cages to stay safe because sharks have associated humans with food, although not the humans themselves. It's madness to dive there without a cage. The cage is quite strong as well, you definitely got that one wrong too. It would be cool if you can host him so that he explains this type of diving.
I'm afraid you guys are the victim of your own stupidity.
They became aggressive due to cage shark diving, and have associated cages with food, so you gotta use a cage to stay safe?
That is so logical.
You say sharks have associated humans with food... they've more than likely associated CAGES with food.
And you're all using cages now to stay safe.
Brilliant.
NZ refused to give licenses for that reason. The Paua (abalone) divers protested as they rightly thought it would change the Great Whites feeding habits and would be a nuisance to them.
Probably the first video I disagree with you guys. These waters are definitely dangerous and I’d personally feel safer with that cage, even tho it looks stupid. That shark in particular was circling and checking him out. Also there are a lot of people who were attacked while collecting abalone.
I think one big reason for the cage is that the stories I've heard of attacks on abalone divers have generally come from behind. Since they tend to work alone, and without someone to raise the alarm, the cage prevents a devastating surprise flank attack.
Guys, context is everything. They lady swims with the giant sharks probably because they just ate or there’s some detail that’s intentionally left out. If sharks don’t eat people and aren’t dangerous, then what’s the problem? Why are we even discussing this?
Of course sharks aren't just going around actively attacking people. But, there are a bunch of instances of white sharks attacking abalone divers over the years. I'd listen to a guy that's been doing it and working around white sharks for 30+ years, and not brush off things that he does or says works for him. But that's just me.
Divers tend to get a little dogmatic about the glorious majesty of the Great White. Why even argue the point that Sharks don't indiscriminately hunt humans the same way polar bears do? They don't have to be evil killing machines to bite you in half on a whim lol, what are we even talking about?
@@friedsensei It is strange to me how safety conscious they are when it comes to caves, but then when it comes to sharks there is no danger at all apparently. Like they wont enter a cave without 3 lights each and leave immediately if a light dies, but its ok to swim next to a shark and just hope it isn't hungry.
Disclaimer: I've never dived so take my opinion for what it is lol
@@thehoror01 haha I don't dive either, here's the thing though I do understand where they're coming from and it's less dumb than your anology but still dumb. I've been driving for 20 years and my seatbelt hasn't had to save me once, I still wear it but I've never needed it. Losing your lights in a cave is a million times more dangerous than swimming with sharks, but what the hell are we even talking about haha. I still wear a seatbelt, and you shouldn't get too comfy around sharks.
@@friedsenseiI agree with this. Honestly I find the discourse about sharks these days incredibly disingenuous. Every time a shark eats a person or bites them in half or sth, it was never just predation. It was always "mistaken identity" or "test bites" or "the water was being chummed" (even though there is no evidence of this in many cases).
I get that sharks were demonized before, but this overprotective attitude is just as ridiculous and it's dangerous too. I've seen more than one case where a shark bites through a person's torso and it's labelled as a drowning because there was water in the lungs. How crazy is that?
Big sharks like GW are apex predators. Yeah, the probably won't attack you, but why take that chance and swim next to them when you don't have to? Just leave them alone like you would do with any other apex predator.
Actually Abalone divers are attacked by GWS more often than any other groups of people in the water, IIRC there was a study/statistical analysis that I remember from a video where the data we have on people attacked by GWS was compared, and Abalone divers were victims of the GSW more than any other group(IIRC it included swimmers, surfers, scuba divers etc.). I know ive heard many stories of Abalone divers being attacked, and it is a very real danger in the Abalone diver community, and it makes sense. The areas and environments that people Abalone dive in are often rich in sea life(and often are areas frequented by animals like sea lions, and other primary/preferred prey items of sharks).
At the end of the day I dont think this idea that "humans arent on the menu" or that attacks just happen because of "mistaken identity" are truthful, maybe some are truly mistaken identity or curiosity, but sharks have the sensory abilities to know the difference between their preferred prey items, and a human, there are plenty of attacks that are deliberate attempts to predate..there is no mistake on the sharks part. Sharks use a lot of energy, especially when hunting for their preferred prey items like sea lions, and they arent always successful. All it takes is a shark whose failed to catch its preferred prey one too many times that sees a human and knows its an easy meal despite it not being what they prefer to eat. I dont think thats an uncommon, or unreasonable reason for an attack...humans do it all of the time, we may prefer to sit down at a good restaurant, but due to time/hunger/convenience we go to a fast food place instead.
The Great White sharks in South Africa and Australia are more aggressive than the ones around the US and fatalities are more common than just bites
I blame fosters beer for that.
Even so last year in Australia we had 4 deaths from sharks and 15 bites. Sharks are not a significant danger to humans
@@chuckh4077 hahahah that's hilarious.
@@chuckh4077 fyi..Fosters is the Old Milwaukee of beers in Australia. Stayed in Perth for a month and people I stayed with would keep an eye on the elementary school down the street. They "paid" him in cases of Fosters light(white can). 🤣
@@ariera9873that’s hilarious 🤣
You guys are very knowledgeable but many divers have been attacked and some eaten
Just like with any dangerous job, you want to reduce the chance of injury/death as much as possible. These men/women are exposing themselves to GWS on the daily, and in environments where they are more at risk than your average diver. They also have a job to do so they can’t be focused on their surroundings the entire time. The less work that gets done means the less money they bring home!
As a great white shark myself, I eat divers all the time.
I've heard everything tastes like dinosaurs, especially chickens. Not eaten one myself so hard to know.
I agree bro
Sharks have an extremely basic brain, almost solely focused on sensory processing, movement control, and basic survival behavior. If they perceive you as tasty or threatening, you're in danger. I believe it is disingenuous to act like sharks aren't a threat to divers. It's like people who handle venomous snakes, thinking they are misunderstood after countless hours handling them safely, only to lose a finger to one. I love Dive Talk, but I hate acting like these animals aren't a major threat.
They are not a "major threat" if you look at the statistics. Driving a motorbike, owning a pitbull or scaling the Himalayas is way, way, way more dangerous, and yet people still do it, willingly accepting the risk and accepting the amount of injuries and deaths that characterize their hobby.
We have different sensitivities when it comes to threats. When a human is killed by a shark - "big scandal ! We must change the way we dive !"
But when a human is killed in a car accident - that hardly makes it into the news, and will only lead to a change of policies if there is a large number of casualties.
@@anadubar4819 Your argument is badly flawed. You are completely disregarding relative risk in your reasoning. It's obvious that more people die in car accidents and mountain climbing because there is a significantly higher exposure to these risks. Diving with or around sharks is a extremely obscure activity compared to the others you mentioned. It's like saying walking on a tightrope is safer than walking on a sidewalk because fewer people attempt it. The rarity of the activity doesn't diminish its inherent risk.
@@anadubar4819 So you're saying you shouldn't wear a seatbelt in a car, because your chances of getting in a car crash aren't very high?
@@anadubar4819just have life insurance for your kids with this mindset
An abalone diver was killed a couple of years back.
Just watched a video where a diver fishing for molluscs had his head bitten off by a shark in Mexico last year. He wasn't in a cage
One of my favorite channels on RUclips right now. I went from being absolutely terrified of diving and deep water to being genuinely interested in the sport and intrigued to give certification it a try sometime.
I do agree with the point that Sharks aren’t actively hunting humans, but also my food isn’t magically showing up on my plate. Mayport in Jacksonville Florida where I am from has a pretty popular open water dive scene and plenty of the divers see tiger sharks regularly. Some divers have gone missing with 0 explanation and only gear found on the sea floor. Sharks? Medical emergencies? Gear mishaps? Improper training? Who knows…. As Gus said they aren’t alive to tell. Despite being very fearful of sharks myself I love to surf and I am interested in diving yet I still do not believe this is a big enough issue to avoid diving or any experience with the ocean as we only live once!
How are divers “vanishing”? If they go with a boat operator is not like the boat will be like “Steve? Anybody saw Steve? No? Oh well, let’s go get a burger” and leave the diver behind. That makes no sense.
As long as the shark doesn't go crzy. The one in jaws probably had a mental break.
@@DIVETALK Brief internet search seems to indicate he's talking about an incident that occurred in the stated location around July of 2021, I couldn't find examples of this happening more then once, maybe someone has better googlefu then me though.
@@Grimsacethank you yes this is one instance I am referring to that was reported very heavily. In no way did I mean to imply this is happening constantly or discourage anyone from diving nor did I mean to imply that divers are leaving their dive buddies behind!
@@DIVETALK what doesn’t make sense about it?
There some Aussie divers today, scarred by great white attacks, still diving for Abalone!
Gus I love you man but if you go Abalone fishing for a living I bet your chances of getting bitten at some point is really high dude. Might not happen for 10 years but then you get bit in half one day. 😂
I think the cage, along with being for extra gear, is also because sharks are sneak-attackers and are more likely to come at people unawares from behind.
Exactly.
Or below
Shark experts are watching this video going "What do cave divers know about shark behavior?" LOL!
Look up Ron Elliott. He dove for abalone at the Farallon Islands by himself. Yes by himself on his boat 50 miles from the coast in a GW hot spot. I saw him in person on a GW cage dive there years ago. He has some crazy videos online.
I remember a guy who was Abalone diver got killed by 2 Great White Sharks 🦈 on Shark Week
There is a good tv series called Abalone Divers or Dive Wars Australia, depending where you are. Several series cover the industry and includes the risks of Great Whites. They have taken some of the divers on exiting. The use of the cage is explained, although not all use them. It is worth a watch. 😊
Abalone Wars 2013 was also a really good one. They talk about why Abalone fishing is so dangerous. They follow 3 South African Abalone divers and one of the three didn’t make it to the end of the documentary, he was killed by a great white.
2:00 Don't be silly. When you are being near such a killing machine, the deadliest creature on earth, the A of the Apex predator the world has ever seen. That cage is needed. That cage is bare adequate. Do you have to see a dead shark first and say, sorry we should put a cage on the human? Or would you rather put a cage there so the shark is well protected and we don't have do the I'm sorry thing?
deadliest creature on earth? Lmao
There's quite a few instances of attacks on abalone divers, some of the more gruesome attacks that have been recorded have involved abalone, and this also goes back before the times of cage diving operations and shark tourism so its not just about changes in behaviour based on baiting, etc.
Of course it doesn't really stand that these sharks would be regularly and intentionally hunting humans, or the numbers of fatal attacks would higher by many orders of magnitude, but there's a few things to consider, including that the locations people dive for abalone tend to be near seal and sea lion colonies, the water visibility can also be very poor and they also tend to dive without a buddy.
That is a pretty bad combination of factors, so interactions between the sharks and abalone divers are far from rare, and that's just the sharks that they see.
It's just one of those scenarios where the raw number of encounters in the wrong conditions means that attacks can happen and when they do, they are more likely to be aggressive/predatory style strikes rather than 'just' exploratory bites.
And that's probably the biggest factor to keep in mind. Its not about swimming in an area with Great White Sharks, its about swimming in the specific areas where they are actively hunting marine mammals. Abalone diving is basically the recipe of all the things you should avoid doing if you want to avoid negative interactions with large sharks.
Fatalities are still ultimately very rare, all things considered, but its still not something to be blasé about.
There's an old 1984 documentary called "Caged in Fear" which was about developing the first mobile shark cages for abalone divers which is worth a watch. A bit dated in its ways, but not overdramatised.
There was an episode of either I Shouldn't Be Alive or Human Prey that was about an abalone diver who was attacked by a shark. Admittedly, it was murky water, so probz a case of mistaken identity. But that bloke never got back in the water again after that
Abalone Diving is EXTREMELY dangerous regardless of how murky the water is. Seals feed on Abalone, and Great Whites feed on Seals that are hunting Abalone… and divers look and behave an awfully lot like a Seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality.
They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
Ask Rodney Fox about diving for abalone
I unsubscribed from this channel because of all of the comments objectifying women. I subscribed back in '22 when they were just getting going. When you are losing subscribers, you should probably check what you are saying that is alienating people. I know it is a running joke, but it really isn't funny.
Diving is always a 50/50 life experience. You either survive reaching the surface, or you dont. The rest of it is semantics
Here in San Diego California, we have an increase in White, and Maco shark! Because of the all out protection of the seals. I have heard of people getting bit, and once in a while even expired.
I remember watching Shark Week several years ago, and they were doing a spot on the pros and cons of these abalone cages. They interviewed an abalone diver from Australia by the name of Peter Clarkson. He said the cages were too cumbersome to use, and he preferred to “take his chances” by diving without one.
Wonder if he still thought that has he was attacked and completely consumed by TWO great whites?!
Abalone diving is no doubt dangerous. But this case is complicated, see the coronial report.
I think the idea with the cage is that they are chumming the watter, so the cage is a safety precision
the hat has a dingleberry and its called Woody 💩
I bet you’d be more likely to get bit if you jumped right on/ in front of a shark. Especially if there is bait or around spear fishing. “TheMalibuArtist” channel shows awesome drone footage of Whites checking out or avoiding swimmers. Reassuringly Whites seemly tend to avoid people, briefly check them out or just pass on their way. (Unless they’re trailing bait/catches)
Guy’s, that’s so awesome loved seeing Ramsay with the huge white shark I actually took my 14 yr old daughter on a shark (dive) it wasn’t really a dive it was just a swim but I had a proud dad moment when she got in the water with shark ID Roxy a 15’ tiger shark in Haleiwa, Hawaii on the north shore of Oahu such a great experience with one ocean diving … sharks are amazing and I love diving with them 🤙🏻
Great white behaviour has been shown to vary with geographical location. They are also the perfect predator and often show up without the prey (in this case human) ever knowing they had a look and simply weren't interested in the strange looking "seal" like creature. Their body language shows their intent, most beautifully shown in Ocean Ramsey's amazing encounters.
But also let's not forget these Abalone divers are not only in Great White territory, but doing it for 6 - 8 hours each day. Their shark encounters are significantly higher and you only need one "bad" one.
Easy to say Sharks don't attack divers from the studio dude 😂 they dive in those circumstances everyday. Just like you know best in a cave I'm sure they know best in their local area 👌 big fan of the channel
There's definitely been instances of sharks attacking divers but of course it is rare. if you dive everyday with sharks then the chances just go up. that's probably why they use the cages and those cages might look fragile for a shark but I'm sure it will give the diver enough time to get his knife out and I'm sure he knows exactly where to plunge it, at which point the shark will probably not bother as the meal is not worth the risk.
I would personally never do this I don't care if the odds are in my favour.
Not a Great White but I was just diving with 5 bull sharks off of Destin and they were curious about me but kept their distance. With AJ season and now Red Snapper the bulls are pretty thick around our wreck right now. I would love to dive with a great white around here.
Come to Monterey! I’ll take you diving with our sea lions. Maybe bring an extra Go 😉
Woody, you meant OceanRamsey, right? Yes, she's awesome 🤩 I love her 💛💛💛
Couple of abalone divers/poachers have been taken off our coast in South Africa.
I’m not sure that going from one extreme to the opposite extreme is justifiable here i.e. sharks are always dangerous to divers to sharks are never dangerous to divers. Specifically great whites in this context.
They may not hunt humans, but outliers exist in almost every circumstance where there can be an outlier. Murphy’s law.
I mean as divers you factor in every other variable that poses even minimal threat into each dive. You take back ups for your back ups. Why is this any different?
Healthy respect and some element of protection. I see this being the most rational decision.
I had a sandbar shark close to me my last dive and I got it on camera. Super AWESOME!
Yes sharks are not indiscriminate human killing machines, but I think it’s a good idea to have a very healthy respect for/caution of these apex predators a) we’re in their environment b) wild animals can be unpredictable and lethal c) I worry if some divers don’t have some healthy fear or are too casual, they might not be respectful like you guys/ be bold around/touch sharks which would not be good for the sharks or could provoke an incident?
I am curious whether there are any sea creatures you guys would be nervous about having nearby? Humboldt squid for example.
Dolphins are more menace than a shark he said😅
Easier to have steel balls when you're looking at a monitor.
The sea lion dive in la Paz Mexico was pretty good
I want to be an abalone diver! This looks so amazing. The shark looks like it's just cruising along and maybe a little curious??? I'm not a shark expert, but I've come across them diving a few times, and it's such a thrill to see them that I forget to be afraid!
Abalone Diving is EXTREMELY dangerous!! You have to understand that Seals feed on Abalone, and Great Whites feed on Seals that are hunting Abalone… and divers look and behave an awfully lot like a Seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality.
They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
Not sure if they're more agressive here in australia but just in Western Australia alone multiple scuba divers have been killed and/or attacked just in the last 10 years
Ocean Ramsey is . . . . well, I'm sure everyone has their opinion. I think she is not smart for making these videos without showing exactly why the sharks are docile, and exactly why people shouldn't start flocking to whale carcasses and try to film themselves touching the sharks, feeding the sharks, stepping on the whales and getting pictures.....Ramsey should know better: People are inherently stupid and will try to mimic what she's doing.
They need protection because of they are handling food the shark may be interested in. If there is nothing around that the shark is interested in eating, there is less need for protection.
He is not chasing the shark, he drive toward the shark whenever the shark b-line on him. That's what he meant by "confronting" the shark. They have a lot of curiosity and they like to touch things to see what they are. And since they don't have any hands they use what they have at their disposal : their mouth. Most human attacks are curiosity bites. If a white shark truely "attacked" human the same way he does when hunting seals for example, there would be no survivors.
they are also ambush predators so facing them directly will make them less likely to attack
I was hoping Woody was going to say Mike went Shark Mode, and just started taking bites out of fish as he was diving.
Been away from the channel for about a year and man Gus has lost so much weight! Good for you buddy
You need to do a rection video to the start of the movie "under paris"
i think all of the gear divers wear perhaps detracts sharks from attacking as it makes people look so alien and not like something that should be eaten. now when wearing only a wet suit or swimming trunks all the while being on the surface and not "confronting" the shark. thats when u get attacked
Sharks are not killing machines but a white shark all it takes is one bite and your done
Google Rodney Fox. Legend here in South Australia who got attacked in I think the 70s abalone diving
I really want that hat! Btw, love diving with sharks, but never dove with big ones, only the small Blue sharks that are very common here in Brazil. I saw once a hammer shark, but that was it.
I went in a shark cage once and it was enough to convince me that i will never go diving 😂
Dont get me wrong it was awesome... But seeing the size of the sharks up close and how they move so effortlessly through the water... It makes you realize just how ridiculously helpless you are if the situation went bad.
I’m more worried about that hose leaking than the shark 😂😂😂
And what Gus said, that group of dolphins is way more scary
Naw, Abalone Diving is EXTREMELY dangerous!! You have to understand that Seals feed on Abalone, and Great Whites feed on Seals that are hunting Abalone… and divers look and behave an awfully lot like a Seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality.
They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
Henri Murray and Jason Lee are 2 divers off top of my head… there’s been many cases
If a shark fails in just a few hunts they get desperate and need calories for future attempts and once they kill and eat a human then we are now on the table… may not be their favorite but in a pinch we will do. Bears are same way and this is why they used to kill any animal that are a human is they understood this but today they ignore it…
Today a shark attack is only when there’s witnesses and always mistaken as a seal even though we don’t look, move nor smell like seals
Human is not on a shark's menu. Recently watched a fascinating documentary on sharks produced by National Geographic some 10 years ago. They are incredible creatures with SIX senses! They are not 'out to get us'.... yet we slaughter thousands of them for their fins every year. It's barbaric. They deserve our respect & admiration.
I understand that sharks are necessary and that they are actually really beautiful, but when one that was way bigger than I was came from behind me and swam underneath me while I was snorkeling in Vietnam 😅
We def gotta hook him up with Sharks happen channel and Hal
if a submarine was a convertible, it would be that.
Dude, I have been hearing about abalone divers being killed by GWs since the early 80s.. They will tear you up if they are hungry and try swimming at night in Florida I guarantee you will get attacked
We lost a Local Diver here a couple of years ago Hooka Diving on our local scallop Beds on our East Coast. Unfortunately His Daughter Witnessed Her Father being attacked and killed under their Dive boat, So yes they do kill Scuba divers. when i was a young boy Camping at Cockle creek South Tasmania a Scuba diver was killed by a White and his remains were discovered inside a 22 foot white 24 hours later half way up our East Coast. CSIRO tracks whites and discovered they use the currents to travel all around Tasmania all the way to Mainland Australia and return the same way. I only know this as I was part of the team building GPS location devices for whites Tracking. YES Whites do target scuba and hooka Divers in Australian / Tasmanian waters. God Bless
As a bullshark I am offended you don't mention me. 🦈
Could it be a drone sub filming him?
Love the hat Woody! 😂
Look up new Smyrna beach Florida you’ll find out differently about sharks attacking humans
Did you not research Australian Abalone Divers Australia?
Woody can't make his mind up if sharks are his freind or a dangerous animal. These guys know loads about diving and nothing about anything else.
Have you watched shark week about abalone diver there has been a bunch of them being killed while diving that’s why they invented the cage for abalone divers
I love sharks but they do eat people sometimes. They may be rogue sharks like some dogs are classified as dangerous because they keep biting people.
And serial killers hunt other humans.
Great white is the only shark you have to be in a cage for
Not nearly enough Blue Eastern Gropers in this video
Edit - glad my man Blueback made an appearance
People talk about getting unsubscribed all the time and it’s literally never happened to me on any channel. What’s up with that?
Sharks like most animals have the capability to hunt and kill humans but that doesn't make all sharks evil. I love hearing people talk positively about sharks or any animal that has a bad reputation. 💜🤘.
Often times with sharks if they don’t mistake you as prey they often times are curious and take a bite because they see this strange creature that they’re not used to and they want see if it’s a good food source and spoiler alert for sharks we are not we are too bony and don’t have enough fat so unless like you’re stranded at sea just floating around they aren’t actively hunting humans
Love this. So interesting. Thanks, guys!❤
Crazy how rare it is to see a shark especially rare to see a 20 foot great white. You would need to actively find it and it may take days or weeks. Lol
It’s not rare for Abalone divers. Seals feed on Abalone and great whites feed on seals, so it’s actually pretty common for great whites to attack Abalone divers because they mistake them for a seal. In South Africa Abalone fishing is illegal, but it’s also a way of life for poor communities, and just about every year Abalone divers are attacked off the coast of South Africa and most of the time it goes unreported due to its illegality.
They did a documentary on 3 three Abalone divers in 2013 called Abalone Wars 2013 and they almost didn’t release the documentary because one of the divers was killed by a Great White before they finished filming the documentary.
I also think youtube being saturated with " Diving accident " AI generated poorly documented bandwagoners has hurt the viewership a lot in the past year . The algorithm has probably stopped recommending videos like it used to in the past years .
Might need to weather the storm .
Love shark video love dive videos excellent love it
We lost a diver last week here in Florida..his body was found in Ft Pierce inlet. No shark bites .
@Navy1977 wow ok .so 2 were missing. I live on the North Island where they found the body . Sad
Mermaids unalived him after taking something from him to repopulate their species. 😅
Woody reminds me of an owl 🦉
5:56
Slap the Shark.
The sharks are not coming at you with aggression it’s curiosity they are seeing something abnormal in their natural habitat if you saw something unusual in your house, you would check it out too
Wonder how the sharks will react to a trans?
Woody is clearly a shark in disguise, saying this so he can get more free meals! Nice try!
But yeah, seriously, I would love to see you guys go and dive there - sharks are amazing creatures and you'd capture some amazing footage!
normal divers arent killing fish so they are safe around sharks.. a guy thats diving to kill fish or other sea creatures will be surrounded by blood particles and bits of fish... so it will attract sharks and they will be much more aggressive
Ha no way that’s my home town 😂
"Sharks don't attack divers" really? Tell that to the families of the dead Australian abalone divers.
They do attack, but the general idea is that they don't activity hunt us as prey. Most bites/attacks come from mistaken identity or curiosity
It’s like saying Humans don’t eat humans and you saying “oh yeah? Tell that to the families of the people who died in the plane crash in the Andes!”
Numbers don’t lie. Sharks don’t attack divers. If they did, there will be deaths every day since there are billions of sharks in the ocean.
@@shadownight848 thank you
@DIVETALK all you EVER talk about are Ethan Hawke movies, it's noticeable and weird.
Guys…
Come on.
Comparing the few times ever recorded in modern history that humans had to eat already deceased people to survive an unimaginable and unprecedented disaster….
To living people being attacked and or killed by sharks is apples and oranges.. hence the false equivalency remark.
They are not even closely related.
People, swimmers, divers, etc.. whatever term you want to use.. are attacked and maimed / killed by sharks every year… there is zero dispute..
I love the channel and watch almost all videos, comment, etc.
But there does appear to be some type of animosity toward people or agenda pushing or something…
I’m only expressing how it comes across..
When making a statement like “sharks don’t attack divers”
Regardless of the numbers… It obviously happens. Sharks attack divers. The numbers don’t lie.
It’s almost like you are trying to evoke certain emotions/ responses from people…
I could just as easily link numerous videos of sharks attacking people and make an argument that sharks target people for prey…
It’s not true… but it would evoke a certain response.
Again, I love the channel.
Not looking to prove a point or pick a fight..
Just curious what the goal is? It’s not the 1970s anymore… most people don’t think of sharks as mindless killers and don’t believe they need to be hunted to extinction.
Most believe they should be protected…
So again… what’s the goal?
Why do people find it so hard to understand that doing actions that make you look like too much trouble to be prey makes you safer round a predator......most predators evolved to avoid useless fighting cos injuries are hard to recover from in the wild
yI had a tiger shark coming straight at me I cupped my palm squarely around his snout and steered him firmly to the left, he kept turning that way and just swam away.
I wish I could say I wasn't sh*tn brix, but I kinda was....