Great talk, Paul is a great talker on camera and explains things so well. Vite and Vitest is looking really great, would be super to have something like that for PHP. Pest is a really huge leap in the right direction but there's so much more we can do
People are finally realizing that treating a programming language as JUST the language is not feasible in the long run. The developer experience matters. A language should be the grammar of the language itself AND the tooling/packaging around it. As someone who occasionally writes C++ I am jealous of Rust for doing library management so much better with Cargo and the other Rust tools
This is aweomse but I'd say it's more a showcase of JetBrains than any particular testing tool or framework. I work with both Pest and PHPUnit. PHP isn't the friendliest to setup but you can absolutely have step debugging in tests and other niceties like run on save.
I debug tests in PHP everyday. Mostly cause PHPStorm makes it so I have almost no setup. I point it at PHP, PHPUnit, Composer, and everything just works 🤷♂🤷♂
Great talk, Paul is a great talker on camera and explains things so well. Vite and Vitest is looking really great, would be super to have something like that for PHP.
Pest is a really huge leap in the right direction but there's so much more we can do
That would be awesome, when are you starting the live streams to make this?
Testacular came from Spectacular, not Testicular
People are finally realizing that treating a programming language as JUST the language is not feasible in the long run. The developer experience matters. A language should be the grammar of the language itself AND the tooling/packaging around it. As someone who occasionally writes C++ I am jealous of Rust for doing library management so much better with Cargo and the other Rust tools
Have you heard about the miracle of HTMX?
Pretty sure Vite is written in Typescript, no trace of Go in the repo
Ah it uses esbuild under the hood which is Go, but it isn't vite itself
This is aweomse but I'd say it's more a showcase of JetBrains than any particular testing tool or framework. I work with both Pest and PHPUnit. PHP isn't the friendliest to setup but you can absolutely have step debugging in tests and other niceties like run on save.
I debug tests in PHP everyday. Mostly cause PHPStorm makes it so I have almost no setup. I point it at PHP, PHPUnit, Composer, and everything just works 🤷♂🤷♂
Same here! It even runs easily inside the Docker container we have for local development
I can run my tests and debug them already in PHPStorm.
🔥🤯🤗