@ronaldeliascorderocalles You mean viewership? Futurama fans definitely listen to the original actors over the Spanish dub more as it's an American series by default, so by default, most viewers are listening in English basic math 🤣🤣
We need more sitcom style cartoons with continued continuality! No more resetting every episode. Reset most things, but keep character relationships going forward. This helps immensely with audience retention and keeping things fresh. So good to hear Hulu understood this.
And you also need some filler, not just "heres the pure raw story in 6-8 episodes, enjoy!" stuff... but most we get is either super condensed or reset every episode...
Netflix made Inside Job, it's a great follow up on Futurama style of cartoon, too bad it got cancelled after they announched a second season, that now we will never see.
Futurama for me was always more appealing because of the simple but affective plotline and pilot episode "pizza delivery boy gets frozen and wakes up in the 31st century" It gives you so much space for improvisation and it lets your imagination go wild and they maximised that.. Forever and ever my favourite animated show..
@@goated2pacthere's a rumor thanks to dialogue in the 1st episode of the Hulu season that there's a possibility of picking up for future seasons or a movie.
Even though Futurama getting canceled multiple times is frustrating, at least it meant it never overstayed it’s welcome. At 160 episodes (plus 10 more this year and 10 more next year) for Futurama versus The Simpsons now at 750 and who knows how many more 22 episode seasons coming, the quantity also comes to mind.
There's some really interesting psychology behind "the availability of wanted media" networks strategically cut and snip more popular shows to maintain interest in their profit babies. (Tldr it's more cost effective to cut a newer show before producing merch, to boost existing merchandise sales, followed by flagship merch for the canceled show to gauge interest in a re launch, fox did this almost exactly for Futurama, American dad, and a few other shows) Advertising psychology is pretty wild, and I'm not even very knowledgeable about it frankly.
I've never understood this mentality at all, if you don't want to watch new episodes....don't. I'll literally never get the mentality that some how doing more seasons or movies or whatever somehow makes the older ones retroactively worse.
Futurama was always more appealing to me than the Simpsons. It may be that I never had the nostalgia for the original episodes since my family didn't watch it but when I first discovered Futurama I fell in love almost immediately. Something about the inherent sadness in the characters' humor always touched me on multiple levels. Add in that amazing episodes like the ones mentioned in this video, others like Roswell That Ends Well and Lethal Inspection and the movies themselves continue to be referenced over and over in the later years and you get a rich narrative that actually helps to build the world while simultaneously lampooning it which just makes for an amazing series.
Futurama will always be my favorite animated comedy. I’m so happy the Hulu gave it another go. However Meanwhile is still one of the greatest endings of a show I’ve ever seen. I remember watching it live on CC when it aired and them immediately playing the first episode after. It was like poetry, it fit so well as a paradox. I haven’t watched all of the new season yet (because I’ve been rewatching from the beginning) but am so excited to see how it ends up being
I think you hit the crux of the difference between The Simpsons and Futurama. Despite its pop culture and inside jokes, the Simpsons has primarily been a kids show, whereas Futurama aims for a more mature and intellectual audience.
i’m a huge futurama fan, it’s one of my favorite shows and i’ve watched it all the way through multiple times. i really likes the new episodes too, i felt like they stayed true to the characters and had the same feeling/tone carried through the original two runs. i’ve never been a big fan of the simpsons tho, it’s never really drawn me in enough to watch more than the occasional episode
I've always thought Futurama was superior to The Simpsons, and would go so far as to say it's one of the best TV shows of all time, regardless of genre. Though I agree the cancellations helped the show for all the reasons you mentioned, I think the main reason for its success is that it was just a better canvas for the creators to tell stories. The futuristic sci-fi Earth setting allows the show to get pretty crazy, while still tackling relevant issues satirically.
I think if they started letting the Simpson characters age, there would be more story options. Maybe 7 years, Bart and Lisa would be in High school, Maggie would be 8 or 9, they would be able to ground the stories in actual family dynamics, instead of following a similar formula as Family Guy. I find myself restarting The Simpsons after I get to Season 12 or 13, I prefer everything before season 8.
Even if it was only ageing the Simpson's one year every 5 seasons I think that would have helped keep the writing a bit fresher. There are only so many stories that can be told with Bart 10, Lisa 7 (or is she now 8?), and Maggie an infant (beyond the fact that keeping everyone roughly the same age has forced the writers to regularly reset Marge and Homer's past).
It's easier to think about new ideas for episodes when you have the whole universe with different planets and sci-fi concepts. You cannot do that much with The Simpsons, who has to keep itself inside a comfort zone and cant use that kind of bizarre concepts
Futurama had (IIRC) the very first ever time slot when Adult Swim premiered. I was in 2nd grade, and it quickly became my favorite show. I’m now 30, and it’s probably my favorite “adult” animated show.
What always struck me as interesting about Futurama's fantastical aspect is that, despite being 1,000 years in the future with the corresponding technological advances, life is generally the same from a narrative standpoint. This allows the show to pull from current events, but reskin them in ways that make them feel different yet familiar at the same time, taking naturally absurd things in reality to their equally absurd conclusions, all without feeling out of place because of the futuristic setting. This includes the ability to write any celebrity, past or present, into the narrative as a head in a jar, or reskinning other celebrities/fictional characters (such as Zap Brannigan being a parody of Captain Kirk, or Elzar as a parody of Emeril Lagasse). I don't think the Simpsons could ever do this because it is meant to be set in the present, and therefore has to be somewhat grounded, thereby restricting what can and cannot be done with its writing. Though as this video pointed out, in addition to being comedy, Futurama expertly works in sincere emotional storytelling. Despite a growing trend online for labeling things as "cringe," I think deep down audiences want authenticity, which Futurama delivers at the right times.
It feels surreal that we're getting new Futurama in the 2020s. I was born shortly after Y2K, so I was too young to appreciate the Fox era while those episodes premiered. My family didn't have streaming during the Comedy Central era, and my Dad had his own stuff he watched weekly, so I could only catch a few episodes of Futurama then. Fast forward to the Hulu era, and I finally got a chance to get excited for a weekly countdown to new episodes. It's something I wanted since I was a kid.
I think the Simpsons being stuck in this weird limbo where the main family remains the same age, but their background keeps getting retconned plus new technology like smartphones are introduced plus characters around them get married, have kids, and/or die is the biggest reason the Simpsons is in a rut. The show needed to move forward a long time ago.
Hulu did it justice, i was so so Happy to see how Well they handled it so far. Any complains i have are overshadowed by how funny, smart and well written this latest season is so far.
To balance out the rude levels of negativity above… I agree with you!! There is a lot to love!! I hated the anthology episode this season but that’s about it.
@@katieb3172 theres plenty i didnt like sure, but the overall package is so far great. It really feels like it was written by people who know and love this universe and characters.
Futurama has limitless potential due to its science fiction setting. That and its humor, and great characters are what I really like about it. The Simpsons, however, really should have come to a close twenty years ago. It's spent its wad, it's done.
It also doesn't hurt that the Futurama writing crew has a lot of highly educated science and math majors, which is great for a sci-fi show. The Simpsons has a lot of out-of-touch writers trying to keep a show going that people stopped caring about a LONG time ago.
I think the Simpson's is long past the point where it would have benefited from a cancellation-driven refresh, if that sort of thing would even happen given its different background from Futurama. For one thing, the conceit that it's set in the "present" has given it a shelf-life. Even when we look at Futurama shows that comment on now-dated topics, like the launch of the first iPhone, the idea that it takes place in the far-flung future means that they have to reinvent the topic anyway (such as turning it into a cybernetic "EyePhone" that is installed in your eye). Ironically, that sort of awkward reinvention helps the show weather the passage of time a little better, even if it's often obvious when an episode is old.
I'll be honest I actually think the most recent Simpsons episodes today are actually pretty good and not as bad as people tend to claim, the most recent episode was a very heartwarming Marge episode. However I cannot deny how much Futurama was comedic gold, and truly a fantastic show that may have been constantly cancelled and re-aired once again but never really lost its touch, even the newest season has still had the same magic
I’d love to see you go over the remarkably successful example of the two Adventure Time spinoff series, Distant Lands and Fiona and Cake. It’s remarkable how taking a break and allowing the audience to mature allows creators to make something really meaningful.
Remember when Homer became Krusty's double and during the opening of a new Krusty Burger he thought a hamburglar type of character was a real burglar and proceeded to beat him up, and that one crying kid screamed "Stop! He's already dead!". Well, that's my reaction everytime I see Fox renewing The Simpsons for more seasons.
The Simpsons should have been cancelled years ago and Futurama allowed to take its place. The Simpsons having a more grounded setting sorta puts limitations on the jokes you can make, while anything can happen in Futurama because "it's the future". You can see evidence of this in the number of times The Simpsons did something wildly unrealistic in later seasons that they would have never done in the classic seasons.
I am more interested in Futurama for storytelling and World the most shows. Address a lot of the things that I always wanted. I love the situation they always find themselves in and the emotional punch that surrounds them. Not every episode has to be funny for me to enjoy Futurama and that's the way I like it.
I truly hope we get another few seasons. For a few weeks I had the pleasure to say "today a new Futurama episode releases". Futurama is by far my absolute favorite show by a googolplex parsecs!
Omg thank you, I've been saying this for sooo long. Futurama just has so much more potential for its storylines by nature of it taking place in the future
Honestly, I'd just try to wrap up the current incarnation of the Simpsons with a second movie before any of the core six voice actors pass on, then wait five or seven years before rebooting it. Granted, I've been saying that for about five years now.
There will always be a point where a show has played it’s part and is then just going through the motions. Shows like Family Guy and The Simpsons need to end once and for all.
I don't disagree. But at the same time, there's been a few Family Guy episodes the last 5 years that are absolutely spectacular. And even though 80% of the seasons are meh, when they get gold it makes it all worth it for me. I understand others can feel differently and that's fair. Even when things aren't the best, I still enjoy said things for nostalgic factor to a certain degree.
@@Magdalena8008swith myself, if I watch something for the nostalgia factor, then I lose sight of where it is currently. That’s why you see entertainment companies continuously peddle nostalgia bait to distract us from the current state of the product.
The Simpsons I believe never talk about what year they are in since the beginning. That's what keeps them so fresh in my opinion. They will do a flashback at times or a future self episode, but they never say what year either of them are in presently. I like them both honestly. Their different, but the same...
I find it absolutely insane that The Simpsons is still running. I grew up with The Simpsons, through their golden age (seasons 1-11ish). Season 12 was a mixed bag and season 13 was just plain bad. I fell off after that and never looked back. The fact that they are now on their 35th season makes no sense. Who still watches it? I literally don't know anyone that lasted past season 15.
Huge Futurama fan, can't even put it into words, but I never really got into season 5 onwards. It didn't seem as funny or clever and ignored the end of Devil's Hands. It just didn't feel right. It never should've been cancelled in the first place and I will never stop being bitter about that.
Perfect timing. I just got back from Best Buy. I was supposed to buy a new vacuum but wound up buying Futurama the conplete series dvd box set. Best impulse buy ever 🎉
This is a cool video but it doesn't really do much... it's a recap of futurama's history, plus an opinion. It's not an answer to the quesiton of why it works better than the simpsons, it just says "Well they were canceled a few times and it's better now". While I do appreciate the effort, I like nerdstalgic videos that make me think long and hard. I think what makes the channel special is that I can watch a video about a show I know nothing about and come away from it a more learned person, while I can also watch a video about a show I know and love and have the same effect. This one sort of ignores the second criteria. To be clear I do love the content and keep it up, just offering a little unsolicited criticism about what could make it better.
The fact that it never resets to the status quou. It keep continuity through both time travel and episodes. Characters return, plotlines return, there are snappy callbacks and sinvce its not being reset those callbacks are earned
I wouldn't go so far as to say that shows should intentionally get canceled and booted back up repeatedly, but some planned hiatus's from time to time would probably be an overall positive for writing staff. It might be wise to throw shows onto a sort of rotation where you run one show for say, two-three years, then rotate it out for another show for a bit before rotating back to the first, then back to the second, and so on. Maybe throw in a third or fourth into the rotation in some clever and interesting ways, just to help keep things fresh. This would also potentially be good from a marketing standpoint because every time a show comes back from hiatus they can do an "it's back" advertising campaign.
Maybe, but as a rule shows that come back from a hiatus tend to be seen as reboots and not usually as well received. However, I’m not completely against your idea. First of all, it does seem to work for cartoons. For live action, the fact that it’s a _planned_ hiatus may work in its favor.
One of my most fave adult cartoons ever! Although I am happy that Hulu rebooted it, the new season felt somewhat off. The writing seems ok but it didn’t quite excite me like the older seasons. One thing that really bothered me were the voices. You could tell Billy West’s voice has changed, most noticeably, for Fry, the Prof. and Mr. Wong. Not surprised because the guy is 71 years old now. Which does make me think that it won’t be on for much longer.
Futurama is one of my favourite animated shows. Its always been better than the simpsons, and I've always felt that even when i first saw futurama as a kid having previously seen Simpsons. Its not just cos its funny as well its got a lot of great characters, an interesting world(universe) and a lot of heart. In the same episode it had u laughing it'll give u a gut lunch like the ep with lucky clover
“I'll never forget him... But he forgot me a long, long time ago.” Tears every dang time. Furturama just hit different. Closest with the simpsons is Lisa’s sax.
I have found it entertaining just watching reaction videos of people who have never seen Futurama before. Became a fan of the show when it first aired and collected the DVDs. It seems like the Simpsons gets more room to play with Treehouse of Horror as there aren’t any limits to what kind of stories they can tell while Futurama has no limits since it’s set in the future 1000 years and they can create all sorts of planets and people to populate that world. Professor Farnsworth can invent anything. My favorite characters have got to be Bender and Zoidberg
The latest season of Futurame on Disney+ has been abysmal! Even more so, because the series already had one of the most beloved and perfect endings ever!
I think they’ve stopped basing stories on the shows premise and have started basing stories on random real world stuff - like bitcoin. Why is that a futurama episode?
take your nostalgia glasses off. It's exactly the same quality as the later seasons. I stopped watching Futurama after the original cancellation. Only this month did I decide to binge watch all of the movies and later seasons. I then went straight to the new season. There is little to no difference. At all. Anyone saying otherwise is just thinking that because they haven't watched the show in 10 years and remember those last seasons fondly. Nothing will satisfy you
Of course the new season is bad as I expected it to be anyways by looking at the trailers. But you people are suddenly acting like the Comedy Central reboot was any good. That has almost the same amount of problems the Hulu reboot had.
I always loved the Simpsons and seasons 3-15 are my favourite tv show episodes ever. But that being said it should have gone off the air 15 years ago, all good things must come to an end, and I just haven't been able to watch it since season 20.
As a massive fan of Futurama, I can't help but feel like the cancellations did NOT help future seasons, but rather facilitated some of the greatest episodes. If it wasn't for the cancellations, we might not have gotten The Devil's Hands Are Idle Play Things, or Meanwhile, but I always found it so jarring when the next season would start up and Fry and Leela would be back to square one with barely an explanation. It would have been nice to have an episode dedicated to their separation. This new Hulu season is kind of the same bag for me. Considering how Meanwhile ends, Fry is literally about to propose to Leela, and the next episode kinda brushes right past that so it can tell a story completely unrelated to the proposal. I'm only 3 episodes into the show and episode 2 is my favorite. I like Amy's characterization and growth in it, but the rest of the show feels somehow hollow and filled with mischaracterizations resulting in unsatisfying stories. I'll be continuing with the show to see if I like it more, but so far this season doesn't hold a candle to the original run and hasn't lived up to last revival, and the laughs are few and far between.
I've always felt that Futurama's emotional moments and jokes were done way better than the ones in the Simpsons. Futurama was a show that was self-aware of the fact that it was cheesy and wasn't denying it. Heck, the whole sci-fi aesthetic in Futurama was based on the cheesy 1960s vision of the future, ffs! Plus, Futurama's theme song is a freaking banger that'll get stuck in your head.
I wasn't even born when The Simpsons started airing and I was like 7 when Futurama started. I've always been more nostalgic for The Simpsons however and I would rewatch episodes all the time whereas Futurama I could miss 🤷🏻♂️
Not a big fan of the newest Hulu episodes. To much references to IRL 2023 that changed it from a fun escape to a repeat of the world. It was a show where anything could happen and then they decided to limit that within bleh references to now. I think the other sibling Disenchantment is partly to blame. That series heavily leaned into the longer-term storylines where the premise of the episodes change during the seasons. As much as having the story progress is nice, that brings an end to the working premise that captures the mind for much of the series value. The Simpsons has 20 seasons and yet Bart is still a kid and never changes. Futurama has that same magic yet actually destroyed it by making Fry & Leela remember, Kif and Amy (Leela) have kids and such. While that works for the long-form story, that isn't what makes the series work. People don't watch for the long-story as much for the shenanigans the environment allows. If the story's progression no longer creates a useful premise to work with, then the progression has made the series worse.
i just finished this 4 movies season of futurama and definitely noticed the change in animation. I guess I now know why that is. Still the 4 movies felt a bit weird to me. Gotta begin the next season soon.
When it first premiered, I actually thought that "Futurama" was going to be Matt Groening's new project, and that we were about to see "The Simpsons" get cancelled within the next few years. I guess it's a good thing that I'm not a betting man!
Futurama was a superior show to most shows. The writing was great and the comedy was first rate. Just when you thought they would do something silly and low brow, they’d hit you with emotion! I think Groening liked it better he said, “…’Futurama’ is real, and ‘The Simpsons’ is fiction”
New Futurama season was great other than that anthology toy commercial episode. Best one was the simulation theory episode which stands up with the best of the series.
It's because (unlike The Simpsons) you can do practically anything with Futurama and it would still make sense and be funny. Therefore, it's easier to come up with good ideas.
Grew up watching Simpsons but when i discovered Futurama in high school I started liking it more. To this day I like Futurama better but Simpsons paved the way and alot of the characters are iconic along with some phrases from the show. Last Futurama season(2023) was kinda disappointing though. It was mostly self depracating and attempting to be pc so it wouldnt get cancelled again and epsiode plots were lackluster
I don’t know man the newest season is pretty grounded in our reality right now. I watch Futurama to escape my present and laugh about the nutty fake future. In 20 years you’ll be able to date the newest season, while the previous seasons are just zany adventures.
Confused about the characterization of Season 6 continuing the "Well they won't they" theme of Fry and Leela, considering they start dating in the first episode, and are still dating throughout the subsequent episodes of that revival.
The Simpsons has gone from being shorts on the Tracey Ullman show to being a pop culture staple running 35 years without fail. Whereas futarama got green light off the Simpsons success and yet managed to get canceled and swapped hands twice and has been on 11 seasons for the Simpsons 24. I fail to see how that works better.
@luke5100 ah, yes the old “the Simpsons isn’t novel anymore so therefore it’s inherently bad” approach. I still like the Simpsons and never liked Futurama, given that our personal taste is a natural impasse, I must ask if Futurama is so collectively funny why has it been dead for so long, whereas the Simpsons has yet to die.
I don't agree that the Simpsons is running on fumes. It is difficult to continuously make new jokes and adjust to the modern era for a show that is so old, but even if 20% of episodes suck, 20% of hundreds of episodes will always stand out more than 20% of a ten episode show. Also, as a parent, the second episode of the newest season actually made me cry. I probably started watching the show when I was around fourth grade and now my oldest child is in fourth grade, so the growing up messages hit me. On the flip side, I absolutely love Futurama. The intelligent jokes on that show hit really well, and every time the show has been cancelled (which has been more than twice), it was a shame. I liked the new season, and I wouldn't mind more seasons to come, even if they do have breaks here and there.
Here we go again with the bullsh**. The show that has lasted over 30 years somehow isn’t as good as the one that can’t stay on the air?? At its best, The Simpsons was better. Period. No contest. Seasons 3-8 of the Simpsons is better than anything Futurama ever did. And I can recite EVERY Futurama episode and movie. Futurama is way more niche, the humor is primarily relationship driven rather than situational. Anyone can jump right into the Simpsons without knowing anything. Futurama requires you to start from the beginning to catch everything. It’s like a big inside joke that intentionally leaves new viewers out- which is why they keep getting cancelled. How on Earth can you say it “works better”?? Nonsense. Now, I’ll watch your video 😅
I stand by the idea that every seasons finale should be written as the real finale of the series… if only because it may as well BE just that and even more because it keeps the writers on their Toes…
The good thing about it being canceled so many times is that you can pick when you think the series should have ended and just stop watching from then on without any cliffhangers
isn't that quite obvious? You have one show with a very limited scope of what can be done until it becomes unbelievable, since everything needs to be grounded in some earth-like reality. You have another show, where you can do pretty much anything imaginable. Also the first show runs for 35 Seasons now, the second for 11 (or so)... I'm more surprised that Futurama for some part is resorting to ridiculous crap, although the concept should still have more than enough potential (maybe they also blew their load too early, like Rick and Morty?)
Fun fact: In the Spanish Dub, Kif and Amy's children are played by the actual children of Kif and Amy's voice actors (They were married)
Like Artie Ziff?
@@SchmergDergen Sorry. I dont know why I did that. Fixed
Nobody watching the Spanish dub 🤣
@@damianstewart3273 More than half of the continent does.
@ronaldeliascorderocalles You mean viewership? Futurama fans definitely listen to the original actors over the Spanish dub more as it's an American series by default, so by default, most viewers are listening in English basic math 🤣🤣
We need more sitcom style cartoons with continued continuality! No more resetting every episode. Reset most things, but keep character relationships going forward. This helps immensely with audience retention and keeping things fresh. So good to hear Hulu understood this.
And you also need some filler, not just "heres the pure raw story in 6-8 episodes, enjoy!" stuff... but most we get is either super condensed or reset every episode...
Netflix made Inside Job, it's a great follow up on Futurama style of cartoon, too bad it got cancelled after they announched a second season, that now we will never see.
Eh..... Futurama doesn't have that big of continuity.
Solar opposites is really good and the filler episodes are gold
I saw a video a long tine ago that said "The Simpsons was a counter-culture show that became culture"
Futurama for me was always more appealing because of the simple but affective plotline and pilot episode "pizza delivery boy gets frozen and wakes up in the 31st century"
It gives you so much space for improvisation and it lets your imagination go wild and they maximised that..
Forever and ever my favourite animated show..
Futurama also has deeper episodes in my opinion, Simpson's was always bogged down by it's comedy.
i honestly don’t care for either but man futurama is boring af
@@DamanLane1017have you met Roberto?!
@@DamanLane1017it’s not boring
The Hulu era is likely going to be the last time the show comes back from the dead, so I hope this era is a very long one.
I thought it was only getting two seasons?
@@goated2pac it can always get rewnewed if Hulu wants to
@@goated2pacthere's a rumor thanks to dialogue in the 1st episode of the Hulu season that there's a possibility of picking up for future seasons or a movie.
Given the quality of the Hulu era I doubt that very much
It’s funny how the last season of the Simpsons stands heads and shoulders over this season of futurama given the title of this video
Even though Futurama getting canceled multiple times is frustrating, at least it meant it never overstayed it’s welcome. At 160 episodes (plus 10 more this year and 10 more next year) for Futurama versus The Simpsons now at 750 and who knows how many more 22 episode seasons coming, the quantity also comes to mind.
There's some really interesting psychology behind "the availability of wanted media" networks strategically cut and snip more popular shows to maintain interest in their profit babies. (Tldr it's more cost effective to cut a newer show before producing merch, to boost existing merchandise sales, followed by flagship merch for the canceled show to gauge interest in a re launch, fox did this almost exactly for Futurama, American dad, and a few other shows)
Advertising psychology is pretty wild, and I'm not even very knowledgeable about it frankly.
I've always said this! Always leave them waiting more!
@@salt-emoji That's pretty much what Nickelodeon does for SpongeBob and any show that's competing with it.
Futurama didn't need to have a comback.
I've never understood this mentality at all, if you don't want to watch new episodes....don't.
I'll literally never get the mentality that some how doing more seasons or movies or whatever somehow makes the older ones retroactively worse.
Futurama was always more appealing to me than the Simpsons. It may be that I never had the nostalgia for the original episodes since my family didn't watch it but when I first discovered Futurama I fell in love almost immediately. Something about the inherent sadness in the characters' humor always touched me on multiple levels. Add in that amazing episodes like the ones mentioned in this video, others like Roswell That Ends Well and Lethal Inspection and the movies themselves continue to be referenced over and over in the later years and you get a rich narrative that actually helps to build the world while simultaneously lampooning it which just makes for an amazing series.
The episode with Fry's dog Seymour is probably one of the most beautiful animated episodes I've ever seen
I both love and hate that episode; it makes me cry every time.
That punches me in the chest everytime I recall it. It's beautiful, yes. But in a very VERY sad way.
That episode made me feel things I did t know I had 😂😂
Futurama will always be my favorite animated comedy. I’m so happy the Hulu gave it another go. However Meanwhile is still one of the greatest endings of a show I’ve ever seen. I remember watching it live on CC when it aired and them immediately playing the first episode after. It was like poetry, it fit so well as a paradox. I haven’t watched all of the new season yet (because I’ve been rewatching from the beginning) but am so excited to see how it ends up being
While I really liked the Simpsons as a kid, Futurama was the show that really stuck with me. I loved every stop and restart.
I think you hit the crux of the difference between The Simpsons and Futurama. Despite its pop culture and inside jokes, the Simpsons has primarily been a kids show, whereas Futurama aims for a more mature and intellectual audience.
i’m a huge futurama fan, it’s one of my favorite shows and i’ve watched it all the way through multiple times. i really likes the new episodes too, i felt like they stayed true to the characters and had the same feeling/tone carried through the original two runs. i’ve never been a big fan of the simpsons tho, it’s never really drawn me in enough to watch more than the occasional episode
I always preferred futurama too,the characters are more likeable and down to earth.
I've never been into The Simpsons.
I've always thought Futurama was superior to The Simpsons, and would go so far as to say it's one of the best TV shows of all time, regardless of genre. Though I agree the cancellations helped the show for all the reasons you mentioned, I think the main reason for its success is that it was just a better canvas for the creators to tell stories. The futuristic sci-fi Earth setting allows the show to get pretty crazy, while still tackling relevant issues satirically.
So, are you going to vote for Jack Johnson or John Jackson?
I think if they started letting the Simpson characters age, there would be more story options. Maybe 7 years, Bart and Lisa would be in High school, Maggie would be 8 or 9, they would be able to ground the stories in actual family dynamics, instead of following a similar formula as Family Guy. I find myself restarting The Simpsons after I get to Season 12 or 13, I prefer everything before season 8.
Even if it was only ageing the Simpson's one year every 5 seasons I think that would have helped keep the writing a bit fresher. There are only so many stories that can be told with Bart 10, Lisa 7 (or is she now 8?), and Maggie an infant (beyond the fact that keeping everyone roughly the same age has forced the writers to regularly reset Marge and Homer's past).
It's easier to think about new ideas for episodes when you have the whole universe with different planets and sci-fi concepts. You cannot do that much with The Simpsons, who has to keep itself inside a comfort zone and cant use that kind of bizarre concepts
And are banned to travel to most states xD
So, How does "Bob's Burgers" compare to "The Simpsons"?
Also the Simpson’s had 10 seasons of the golden age and futurama doesn’t even have 10 seasons.
Futurama had (IIRC) the very first ever time slot when Adult Swim premiered. I was in 2nd grade, and it quickly became my favorite show. I’m now 30, and it’s probably my favorite “adult” animated show.
Adult Swim was already 2 years old when Futurama joined the block.
@@PC2000 Yeah, the first program, I believe was either Cowboy Bebop or Home Movies.
What always struck me as interesting about Futurama's fantastical aspect is that, despite being 1,000 years in the future with the corresponding technological advances, life is generally the same from a narrative standpoint. This allows the show to pull from current events, but reskin them in ways that make them feel different yet familiar at the same time, taking naturally absurd things in reality to their equally absurd conclusions, all without feeling out of place because of the futuristic setting. This includes the ability to write any celebrity, past or present, into the narrative as a head in a jar, or reskinning other celebrities/fictional characters (such as Zap Brannigan being a parody of Captain Kirk, or Elzar as a parody of Emeril Lagasse).
I don't think the Simpsons could ever do this because it is meant to be set in the present, and therefore has to be somewhat grounded, thereby restricting what can and cannot be done with its writing. Though as this video pointed out, in addition to being comedy, Futurama expertly works in sincere emotional storytelling. Despite a growing trend online for labeling things as "cringe," I think deep down audiences want authenticity, which Futurama delivers at the right times.
It feels surreal that we're getting new Futurama in the 2020s. I was born shortly after Y2K, so I was too young to appreciate the Fox era while those episodes premiered. My family didn't have streaming during the Comedy Central era, and my Dad had his own stuff he watched weekly, so I could only catch a few episodes of Futurama then.
Fast forward to the Hulu era, and I finally got a chance to get excited for a weekly countdown to new episodes. It's something I wanted since I was a kid.
you sound mature for your age cool
I think the Simpsons being stuck in this weird limbo where the main family remains the same age, but their background keeps getting retconned plus new technology like smartphones are introduced plus characters around them get married, have kids, and/or die is the biggest reason the Simpsons is in a rut. The show needed to move forward a long time ago.
The Simpsons should have been canceled two decades ago, because that’s about when it stopped being funny. It’s sad to watch what the show has become.
Hulu did it justice, i was so so Happy to see how Well they handled it so far. Any complains i have are overshadowed by how funny, smart and well written this latest season is so far.
Lol sounds like a Hulu exec. A lot of it was rough and only 3 episodes could've fit in with the Fox era.
Hulu absolutely did not do it justice. There lame excuse for a season was the worst in series history
To balance out the rude levels of negativity above… I agree with you!! There is a lot to love!! I hated the anthology episode this season but that’s about it.
@@katieb3172 no one had to balance out the negativity after the Fox run wrapped up because it was much better than this season.
@@katieb3172 theres plenty i didnt like sure, but the overall package is so far great. It really feels like it was written by people who know and love this universe and characters.
The latest episode with Marge worrying about her children growing up is probably the best episode they came out with in over a decade
I thought that was also a really good episode. Probably the best in the last few years
Yes there are good episodes, the problem is, if you come with 3 good ideas in a year and make 25 episodes out of them, there will be 22 bad ones xd
Futurama has limitless potential due to its science fiction setting. That and its humor, and great characters are what I really like about it. The Simpsons, however, really should have come to a close twenty years ago. It's spent its wad, it's done.
Simpsons in its heyday was unbeatable. 24 years later I can say with confidence I will not miss it once it’s gone.
It also doesn't hurt that the Futurama writing crew has a lot of highly educated science and math majors, which is great for a sci-fi show. The Simpsons has a lot of out-of-touch writers trying to keep a show going that people stopped caring about a LONG time ago.
They really lowered the bar with some of the new writers they brought on for the Hulu season though.
Old futurama had science-educated writers, the new season all got their degrees in "social sciences" 😂
I think the Simpson's is long past the point where it would have benefited from a cancellation-driven refresh, if that sort of thing would even happen given its different background from Futurama.
For one thing, the conceit that it's set in the "present" has given it a shelf-life. Even when we look at Futurama shows that comment on now-dated topics, like the launch of the first iPhone, the idea that it takes place in the far-flung future means that they have to reinvent the topic anyway (such as turning it into a cybernetic "EyePhone" that is installed in your eye). Ironically, that sort of awkward reinvention helps the show weather the passage of time a little better, even if it's often obvious when an episode is old.
I'll be honest I actually think the most recent Simpsons episodes today are actually pretty good and not as bad as people tend to claim, the most recent episode was a very heartwarming Marge episode. However I cannot deny how much Futurama was comedic gold, and truly a fantastic show that may have been constantly cancelled and re-aired once again but never really lost its touch, even the newest season has still had the same magic
I'm with you on this. Same with Family Guy. Both still have spectacular episodes each season in the last 5 or so years.
Yeah I'm a big fan of Futurama and I was actually quite happy that Hulu said they were going to take a shot at it.
I’d love to see you go over the remarkably successful example of the two Adventure Time spinoff series, Distant Lands and Fiona and Cake.
It’s remarkable how taking a break and allowing the audience to mature allows creators to make something really meaningful.
Matt Groening did a better job with Futurama after it got cancelled
Wah? Most of Futurama's best episodes were before the cancellation.
Did you mean David X. Cohen?
Seymour the dog's episode wrecked my heart. So hard.
One of the best episodes.
Remember when Homer became Krusty's double and during the opening of a new Krusty Burger he thought a hamburglar type of character was a real burglar and proceeded to beat him up, and that one crying kid screamed "Stop! He's already dead!".
Well, that's my reaction everytime I see Fox renewing The Simpsons for more seasons.
The Simpsons should have been cancelled years ago and Futurama allowed to take its place. The Simpsons having a more grounded setting sorta puts limitations on the jokes you can make, while anything can happen in Futurama because "it's the future". You can see evidence of this in the number of times The Simpsons did something wildly unrealistic in later seasons that they would have never done in the classic seasons.
I am more interested in Futurama for storytelling and World the most shows. Address a lot of the things that I always wanted. I love the situation they always find themselves in and the emotional punch that surrounds them. Not every episode has to be funny for me to enjoy Futurama and that's the way I like it.
I truly hope we get another few seasons. For a few weeks I had the pleasure to say "today a new Futurama episode releases".
Futurama is by far my absolute favorite show by a googolplex parsecs!
“We shall teach them our ways of peace. By force!”
“Man, I love those 1X robots!”
Omg thank you, I've been saying this for sooo long. Futurama just has so much more potential for its storylines by nature of it taking place in the future
Honestly, I'd just try to wrap up the current incarnation of the Simpsons with a second movie before any of the core six voice actors pass on, then wait five or seven years before rebooting it. Granted, I've been saying that for about five years now.
There will always be a point where a show has played it’s part and is then just going through the motions. Shows like Family Guy and The Simpsons need to end once and for all.
I don't disagree. But at the same time, there's been a few Family Guy episodes the last 5 years that are absolutely spectacular. And even though 80% of the seasons are meh, when they get gold it makes it all worth it for me. I understand others can feel differently and that's fair. Even when things aren't the best, I still enjoy said things for nostalgic factor to a certain degree.
@@Magdalena8008swith myself, if I watch something for the nostalgia factor, then I lose sight of where it is currently. That’s why you see entertainment companies continuously peddle nostalgia bait to distract us from the current state of the product.
Do you really think those shows were made in a creative vacuum? Make a new show and It’ll just be cut from the same cloth.
Family Guy ended twice before though.
When Meanwhile premiered, after the ending, it played back into the a Pilot and a few episodes after. Showing that they did start over
The Simpsons I believe never talk about what year they are in since the beginning. That's what keeps them so fresh in my opinion. They will do a flashback at times or a future self episode, but they never say what year either of them are in presently. I like them both honestly. Their different, but the same...
I find it absolutely insane that The Simpsons is still running. I grew up with The Simpsons, through their golden age (seasons 1-11ish). Season 12 was a mixed bag and season 13 was just plain bad. I fell off after that and never looked back. The fact that they are now on their 35th season makes no sense. Who still watches it? I literally don't know anyone that lasted past season 15.
I’ve tried to watch a couple of new episodes, and I can’t. It’s sad to see the zombie husk of a show that was once great.
Huge Futurama fan, can't even put it into words, but I never really got into season 5 onwards. It didn't seem as funny or clever and ignored the end of Devil's Hands. It just didn't feel right. It never should've been cancelled in the first place and I will never stop being bitter about that.
Smart humor vs bottom-tier
Good color palette vs vomit
Flexible-time vs modern time
Perfect timing. I just got back from Best Buy. I was supposed to buy a new vacuum but wound up buying Futurama the conplete series dvd box set. Best impulse buy ever 🎉
This is a cool video but it doesn't really do much... it's a recap of futurama's history, plus an opinion. It's not an answer to the quesiton of why it works better than the simpsons, it just says "Well they were canceled a few times and it's better now". While I do appreciate the effort, I like nerdstalgic videos that make me think long and hard. I think what makes the channel special is that I can watch a video about a show I know nothing about and come away from it a more learned person, while I can also watch a video about a show I know and love and have the same effect. This one sort of ignores the second criteria. To be clear I do love the content and keep it up, just offering a little unsolicited criticism about what could make it better.
The fact that it never resets to the status quou. It keep continuity through both time travel and episodes. Characters return, plotlines return, there are snappy callbacks and sinvce its not being reset those callbacks are earned
5:48 no sir. This ABSOLUTELY is the perfect ending
I wouldn't go so far as to say that shows should intentionally get canceled and booted back up repeatedly, but some planned hiatus's from time to time would probably be an overall positive for writing staff. It might be wise to throw shows onto a sort of rotation where you run one show for say, two-three years, then rotate it out for another show for a bit before rotating back to the first, then back to the second, and so on. Maybe throw in a third or fourth into the rotation in some clever and interesting ways, just to help keep things fresh.
This would also potentially be good from a marketing standpoint because every time a show comes back from hiatus they can do an "it's back" advertising campaign.
Maybe, but as a rule shows that come back from a hiatus tend to be seen as reboots and not usually as well received. However, I’m not completely against your idea. First of all, it does seem to work for cartoons. For live action, the fact that it’s a _planned_ hiatus may work in its favor.
0:56 *Yellow coloured family.
One of my most fave adult cartoons ever! Although I am happy that Hulu rebooted it, the new season felt somewhat off. The writing seems ok but it didn’t quite excite me like the older seasons. One thing that really bothered me were the voices. You could tell Billy West’s voice has changed, most noticeably, for Fry, the Prof. and Mr. Wong. Not surprised because the guy is 71 years old now. Which does make me think that it won’t be on for much longer.
0:22: Episode?
0:31: Ep?
I can't believe this video is the first I'm hearing of Futurama season 8, I loved that show so much
Futurama is one of my favourite animated shows. Its always been better than the simpsons, and I've always felt that even when i first saw futurama as a kid having previously seen Simpsons. Its not just cos its funny as well its got a lot of great characters, an interesting world(universe) and a lot of heart. In the same episode it had u laughing it'll give u a gut lunch like the ep with lucky clover
Gut lunch
@@danmohr100 favourite kinda lunch
I watched Futarama this year and i love it
“I'll never forget him... But he forgot me a long, long time ago.” Tears every dang time. Furturama just hit different. Closest with the simpsons is Lisa’s sax.
This is such a good analysis, bravo
I have found it entertaining just watching reaction videos of people who have never seen Futurama before. Became a fan of the show when it first aired and collected the DVDs. It seems like the Simpsons gets more room to play with Treehouse of Horror as there aren’t any limits to what kind of stories they can tell while Futurama has no limits since it’s set in the future 1000 years and they can create all sorts of planets and people to populate that world. Professor Farnsworth can invent anything. My favorite characters have got to be Bender and Zoidberg
Im a Futurama fan and really this vid is greatly done.
The new episodes dont seem as clever as older seasons, i dont think the cancellations did anything to stop the series rot.
I have long held that:
Futurama > The Simpsons
American Dad > Family Guy
The latest season of Futurame on Disney+ has been abysmal! Even more so, because the series already had one of the most beloved and perfect endings ever!
I think they’ve stopped basing stories on the shows premise and have started basing stories on random real world stuff - like bitcoin. Why is that a futurama episode?
@@danmohr100 It was also like that in the CC run with the Eyephone episode
@@lee43795 true, I didn’t like that and now it’s every episode
take your nostalgia glasses off. It's exactly the same quality as the later seasons. I stopped watching Futurama after the original cancellation. Only this month did I decide to binge watch all of the movies and later seasons. I then went straight to the new season. There is little to no difference. At all. Anyone saying otherwise is just thinking that because they haven't watched the show in 10 years and remember those last seasons fondly. Nothing will satisfy you
Of course the new season is bad as I expected it to be anyways by looking at the trailers. But you people are suddenly acting like the Comedy Central reboot was any good. That has almost the same amount of problems the Hulu reboot had.
I always loved the Simpsons and seasons 3-15 are my favourite tv show episodes ever. But that being said it should have gone off the air 15 years ago, all good things must come to an end, and I just haven't been able to watch it since season 20.
Already subscribed mate
As a massive fan of Futurama, I can't help but feel like the cancellations did NOT help future seasons, but rather facilitated some of the greatest episodes. If it wasn't for the cancellations, we might not have gotten The Devil's Hands Are Idle Play Things, or Meanwhile, but I always found it so jarring when the next season would start up and Fry and Leela would be back to square one with barely an explanation. It would have been nice to have an episode dedicated to their separation. This new Hulu season is kind of the same bag for me. Considering how Meanwhile ends, Fry is literally about to propose to Leela, and the next episode kinda brushes right past that so it can tell a story completely unrelated to the proposal. I'm only 3 episodes into the show and episode 2 is my favorite. I like Amy's characterization and growth in it, but the rest of the show feels somehow hollow and filled with mischaracterizations resulting in unsatisfying stories. I'll be continuing with the show to see if I like it more, but so far this season doesn't hold a candle to the original run and hasn't lived up to last revival, and the laughs are few and far between.
I've always felt that Futurama's emotional moments and jokes were done way better than the ones in the Simpsons. Futurama was a show that was self-aware of the fact that it was cheesy and wasn't denying it. Heck, the whole sci-fi aesthetic in Futurama was based on the cheesy 1960s vision of the future, ffs!
Plus, Futurama's theme song is a freaking banger that'll get stuck in your head.
I wasn't even born when The Simpsons started airing and I was like 7 when Futurama started. I've always been more nostalgic for The Simpsons however and I would rewatch episodes all the time whereas Futurama I could miss 🤷🏻♂️
at least Futurama came back on Hulu with new episodes and all these years later I'd still do love and support The Simpsons
I am the BIGGEST SIMPSONS FAN EVER!!!! But I'm enjoying Futurama too. They're both good for different reasons
Futurama's later seasons are not as funny and lean too much into the schmaltz IMO. I still only rewatch the first five.
Not a big fan of the newest Hulu episodes. To much references to IRL 2023 that changed it from a fun escape to a repeat of the world. It was a show where anything could happen and then they decided to limit that within bleh references to now. I think the other sibling Disenchantment is partly to blame. That series heavily leaned into the longer-term storylines where the premise of the episodes change during the seasons. As much as having the story progress is nice, that brings an end to the working premise that captures the mind for much of the series value. The Simpsons has 20 seasons and yet Bart is still a kid and never changes. Futurama has that same magic yet actually destroyed it by making Fry & Leela remember, Kif and Amy (Leela) have kids and such. While that works for the long-form story, that isn't what makes the series work. People don't watch for the long-story as much for the shenanigans the environment allows. If the story's progression no longer creates a useful premise to work with, then the progression has made the series worse.
i just finished this 4 movies season of futurama and definitely noticed the change in animation. I guess I now know why that is. Still the 4 movies felt a bit weird to me. Gotta begin the next season soon.
I think they could try changing the formula a little bit. I don't know, maybe keep the episodic storys along with "season arcs".
When it first premiered, I actually thought that "Futurama" was going to be Matt Groening's new project, and that we were about to see "The Simpsons" get cancelled within the next few years. I guess it's a good thing that I'm not a betting man!
i wish you'd won your bet
I always thought Futurama ran for 4 seasons, had the perfect finale, and then just had a TON of bonus content.
Actually no. Futurama on Hulu no longer works. It really reminded me of the Simpsons...
Futurama was a superior show to most shows. The writing was great and the comedy was first rate. Just when you thought they would do something silly and low brow, they’d hit you with emotion! I think Groening liked it better he said, “…’Futurama’ is real, and ‘The Simpsons’ is fiction”
Into the wild green yonder on acid changed my life and will forever inspire me
Not better than but a Matt Groening series I can still stand to watch. Also, I haven't grown out of Futurama yet as I had done with The Simpsons. 😢
Even a second and a half of that damn dog made me tear up.
New Futurama season was great other than that anthology toy commercial episode. Best one was the simulation theory episode which stands up with the best of the series.
It's because (unlike The Simpsons) you can do practically anything with Futurama and it would still make sense and be funny. Therefore, it's easier to come up with good ideas.
Grew up watching Simpsons but when i discovered Futurama in high school I started liking it more. To this day I like Futurama better but Simpsons paved the way and alot of the characters are iconic along with some phrases from the show. Last Futurama season(2023) was kinda disappointing though. It was mostly self depracating and attempting to be pc so it wouldnt get cancelled again and epsiode plots were lackluster
On Disney it says 10 seasons anyone know why?
11* yeah did it my self suckers
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As a huge Futurama fan, I actually stopped watching the new season after like episode 5.
It's just not very good :(
This is what makes waiting for new seasons of anime exciting. They take the time to make it good…usually lol.
I don’t know man the newest season is pretty grounded in our reality right now. I watch Futurama to escape my present and laugh about the nutty fake future. In 20 years you’ll be able to date the newest season, while the previous seasons are just zany adventures.
Confused about the characterization of Season 6 continuing the "Well they won't they" theme of Fry and Leela, considering they start dating in the first episode, and are still dating throughout the subsequent episodes of that revival.
Roswell That Ends Well is such a great episode
The Simpsons has gone from being shorts on the Tracey Ullman show to being a pop culture staple running 35 years without fail. Whereas futarama got green light off the Simpsons success and yet managed to get canceled and swapped hands twice and has been on 11 seasons for the Simpsons 24. I fail to see how that works better.
@luke5100 ah, yes the old “the Simpsons isn’t novel anymore so therefore it’s inherently bad” approach. I still like the Simpsons and never liked Futurama, given that our personal taste is a natural impasse, I must ask if Futurama is so collectively funny why has it been dead for so long, whereas the Simpsons has yet to die.
I appreciate the effort put into the video however the first 7 minutes are just a recap and don't serve to explore the video from its title.
I don't agree that the Simpsons is running on fumes. It is difficult to continuously make new jokes and adjust to the modern era for a show that is so old, but even if 20% of episodes suck, 20% of hundreds of episodes will always stand out more than 20% of a ten episode show.
Also, as a parent, the second episode of the newest season actually made me cry. I probably started watching the show when I was around fourth grade and now my oldest child is in fourth grade, so the growing up messages hit me.
On the flip side, I absolutely love Futurama. The intelligent jokes on that show hit really well, and every time the show has been cancelled (which has been more than twice), it was a shame. I liked the new season, and I wouldn't mind more seasons to come, even if they do have breaks here and there.
It’s funny that the family is considered blue collar yet Homer has a white collared job.
THERE'S AN EIGHTH SEASON?!!
Except for the first and the triptych episodes, surprisingly good.
Here we go again with the bullsh**. The show that has lasted over 30 years somehow isn’t as good as the one that can’t stay on the air?? At its best, The Simpsons was better. Period. No contest. Seasons 3-8 of the Simpsons is better than anything Futurama ever did. And I can recite EVERY Futurama episode and movie. Futurama is way more niche, the humor is primarily relationship driven rather than situational. Anyone can jump right into the Simpsons without knowing anything. Futurama requires you to start from the beginning to catch everything. It’s like a big inside joke that intentionally leaves new viewers out- which is why they keep getting cancelled. How on Earth can you say it “works better”?? Nonsense. Now, I’ll watch your video 😅
I stand by the idea that every seasons finale should be written as the real finale of the series… if only because it may as well BE just that and even more because it keeps the writers on their Toes…
I like Hazbin Hotel Futurama and The Cleveland Show best they're the best adult shows.
They deserve more love.
The good thing about it being canceled so many times is that you can pick when you think the series should have ended and just stop watching from then on without any cliffhangers
Tbh Futurama is one of those shows like Rick and Morty and the office where I don't hate a single episode
Damn, maybe it's time to rewatch the whole thing
isn't that quite obvious? You have one show with a very limited scope of what can be done until it becomes unbelievable, since everything needs to be grounded in some earth-like reality.
You have another show, where you can do pretty much anything imaginable.
Also the first show runs for 35 Seasons now, the second for 11 (or so)... I'm more surprised that Futurama for some part is resorting to ridiculous crap, although the concept should still have more than enough potential (maybe they also blew their load too early, like Rick and Morty?)