Andrew Tangles w/ a TikToker About the Definition of "Illegal"
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- The TikTok prompt is *Republicans Don't Know Much About the Border*.
Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) takes on a TikToker who claims to understand the word "illegal". They try to come to a mutual understanding about the word. Ex Prez Donald Trump enters the convo before the TikToker spirals booting Andrew.
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The amount of confidence it takes to be that stupid is hilarious
It's almost worse that there's people out there that think he's right. 😂
@@chad480906 democrats
I often envy the oblivious, they have such a simple life. No reaearch, no attaining the ability of critical thiught...must be bliss to do exactly what the Gub ment an media tell you do do!
@@jconusn Life is easy when you're dumb as dirt.😂
@@jconusnAin't that the truth.
These progressives are insane
They’re not progressive just as those everyone calls liberal today are illiberal by definition.
They’re all just establishment shills so propagandized they exist in a safe space fantasyland.
And they have power.
All progressives are insane
According to the Progressive.
A serial killer has done nothing against the Law (illegal) if they are never caught.
Adolf H. was never charged and convicted.
The hoops people will jump through to protect illegal immigration lol
if there's no crime until a court proves you guilty then police officers would not be able to make arrests.
Stop using logic and common sense. That’s not what this guy is here for.😂
This is why voter restriction is necessary
It's the media more then the people and public schools the way colleges are set up. Have to be careful there too because someone else controls who votes as well.
Debating someone that is either intellectually dishonest or logically inconsistent is impossible. It’s like trying to play a chess match with different rules for each player.
Great for exposing them to a third party that can think logically though.
Well thank God it’s for the audience and to show them how ridiculous someone is being. Remember you ain’t trying to change their mind but the people watching you.
I really think this guy is just dumb
@@leradmuiel7634 agreed…I wasn’t saying we shouldn’t get to witness Andrew destroy people. I was just speaking from similar experiences
And in this case with this guy it's typical lying Marxism
Trump was never proven guilty
Biden 2024 lgbt pride
We suck dick
Deemed guilty, never proven.
Big difference for sure and regardless of what the prevailing narrative wants us to believe.
Maga🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅
Never proven guilty of a felony…but he has all but admitted to the misdemeanor false records. Those scumbags in manhattan managed to play the most extreme mental gymnastics to turn it into 34 felonies. Total bullshit
I am still in confusion about what the charges even are. I get that it has to do with paying stormy daniels supposed hush money for sleeping with her, but aside from the fact that you could argue that to be prostitution and currently heresay because we have no evidence that it happened, the payment itself to stop someone from disparaging your name isn't inherently wrong or illegal.
Andrew is exposing America one Tik Tok at a time and it's disturbing. People will say my language is being extreme, but let's be real, these people vote and voice their opinion to THOUSANDS on their platform. This country is cooked.
All designed, implemented, and maintained by Ch1na. Meanwhile, their kids are doing sports, science, math and cooking food on their version of t1kTok
@@jconusnChina? Guess you forgot all the bergs and steins running about in literally every major part of deciding all of our fates
@@demaistre2458 You get it. China is just a distraction/ scapegoat. The tribe is good at that
@@demaistre2458 He's talking about TikTok. He's owned by and run by the Chinese government. It's literally a tool they are using to cause disorder in America, not there wasn't in the first place, but it's not helping.
@Xeno_Solarus The Chinese don't keep track of the demographic decline of native Europeans. The Chinese aren't openly calling for our end. Our concern are the ones who ACTUALLY decide our fates, who I promise aren't Chinese
This guy makes someone in a coma look hyper-intelligent.
So this guy doesn't consider his dinner to be food until he begins eating
😂
Wrong, it is not food until one poops it 😉 then you can say "the dinner was tasty"
This is the same type of people that say that Trump was guilty before he even got charged. It's the same argument either way.
Don't they also say the same about Biden?
@@anthonycampos8057 Ashely Biden admitted that what was written in her diary is 100% true. Biden’s own son calls him ped0 Joe as a nickname.. also we know for a FACT that then Biden family has been using Ukraine to launder money. Many of these things came out in Hunter Biden’s emails.
@@anthonycampos8057 technically no. People knew Trump did nothing wrong due to lack of evidence and then from all the court cases evidence showed he did nothing wrong.
With Biden, people know he's committed crimes due to evidence and then if he went to court that evidence would be used in those cases and if we went according to the letter of the law then he would in fact be found guilty.
Same thing with Hillary Clinton. There are paper trails and witnesses including other physical evidence such as having a separate personal server housing official government information on it which is illegal.
It's kind of hard to erase the fact that with Trump it's taken them years to try and stick some penal code to him to finally find him guilty as to where if it was Biden or Clinton the penal codes that were violated would be obvious and wouldn't take years to convict. There wouldn't need to be a search party going back all their lives to come up with something illegal they did.
@@anthonycampos8057 Yeah but there is actual evidence and a crime that has been committed with Biden.
@@anthonycampos8057 Joe much like his son records his unlawful conduct. MSM and the justice department ignore it. Like the Ukraine prosecutor Joe gloated about getting fired to news reporters or no billion dollars for Ukraine.
This guy makes destiny look like a genius.
Underrated comment
The most disappointing thing about destiny, is he's actually very inyelligent. He's just indoctrinated.. you can be intelligent and stupid at the same time. Look at all these "educated" people coming out of university's. They are or have the capacity for high intelligence but they have all been indoctrinated and taught to be stupid.
@silenttitan416 stupid cannot be intelligent. To be stupid means you know what's correct but chose false anyway. These ppl don't know they're wrong. They defend the wrong, and they justify the wrong. In the face of correct. Education is nothing but indoctrination. That's the way public school has always been. Since it was really invented by the dark triad families. They're not stupid or even ignorant. They're moronic, they're simply too stupid to know they're stupid. Therfore they cannot be intelligent. Intelligence is having decernment. They simply do not.
Destiny is smart and he mostly has good arguments. You wouldn't last a minute confronting him you donkey lol. There's a huge difference between saying I strongly disagree with Destiny and Destiny is dumb.
@@silenttitan416 He's irrational.
He’s worse than destiny! Deliberately obtuse, intellectually dishonest and pedantic.
The smartest democrat.
And he still has a room temperature IQ
😂
He probably is!
lol
lmfao
@@TommyGunz327 if that temperature is measured in celsius
This guy believes if you break into a house and rob it that it is not illegal until you get charged for it as a crime. 😂
This is how you arrive at squatters functionally stealing homes from people.
He's so confident he's right, too. What a doosh.
Forget him being a "constitution absolutist", he's just dishonest and bad faith
I know, you could tell immediately this dude from the get-go is just arguing for the sake of arguing instead of actually listening and responding with reason. It's like they think they're in a permanent battle and conceding a point hurts their ego so much they'd rather argue instead of actually pursuing truth & logic.
@@domad33 And the thing is he is 100% wrong too. He was totally trolling - not interested at all in debating.
If someone kills someone, then goes to court and found "not guilty " , would they then no longer have killed someone?
With how that airhead phrased his argument, the dead person clearly must rise from the grave following the not guilty verdict.
He can't distinguish from proof of crime associated with the individual in order to enact a punishment and identifying that a crime is in progress. Conviction is only the circus that's required to enact punishment. The crime exists separately from that.
Is this how this progressive thinks he knows so much about the border? He misdefines words? Brilliant
This is the definition of "bad faith" argument
It's like talking to a brick wall. Holy...
Don't insult brick walls like that
I cannot defend myself against someone who is assaulting me until they have been charged and convicted.
Homeboy is conflating illegal with guilty. Burglary is illegal regardless if anyone has committed a burglary. If someone breaks into my home, do I need the burglar to be found guilty to say that they did something illegal? My first hand eye witness may not be enough evidence to convict said burglar, but I don't need to with hold my judgement that the burglar did something illegal until he is found guilty in court.
The progressive sounds like he's thick, Andrew wins...
American citizen show ID when they're coming in what are you talking about
I think he was trying to argue that on a SUPER rare occasion, Americans might sneak over the border into Mexico or Canada without due process. So he would then say "Should they be in jail" or something like that. But 1. That's extremely rare vs the contrary and 2. Uhh yes! If you break the law, you pay the price. It was a terrible argument and he immediately folded because he refused to let Andrew even try to address it.
Even if not, after they get in they can confirm their legal ID
Andrew: Can you answer the question sir?
Weirdo TikToker: *drops Andrew* I'm here for a civil conversation...
Literally could not have asked for a more civil and rational person to debate with, lmao.
It’s one way you can always spot a narc, projecting without fail. Passive aggressive covert control freaks)
I'll never understand the progressive logic,
anything nonsensical seems to always be what they advocate for.
My state of California is the perfect example of their ideas in motion. High taxation, overly regulated, decline in rule of law, civilian safety no longer a concern. A vagabonds paradise.. Smh
The problem is they either don’t understand logic or they just ignore it when it suits their goals and agenda.
They’re evil. Very easy to understand.
They’re just evil, bro.
If a tree falls in the woods and a judge has not ruled that a sound was made then we must assume sound does not exist
Coper: "I'm here for a civil conversation, but if you are going to destroy my arguments, I will ban you."
1 minute in its obvious there's some serious brain damage with baseball cap guy.
He’s pulling sh!t out of his gunt , I can smell it from Canada 😂
He is a progressive, sounds about right from what he is saying. It is all a bunch of idiotic talk.
Andrew needs to bring up jury nullification.
this guy is professionally regarded
Im glad you posted this video to show everyone how crazy these people are.
I refuse to believe Andrew isn’t hiring trolls for content creation
Andrew is the most logical, smartest, decent, honest guy I have ever seen on the net.
He knows how to argue , debate , talk without becoming emotional with anybody.
And he's a deeply religious , Christian man with virtues , he's not corruptible in any shape or form.
His wife is a very lucky woman having a man like that beside her.
I f!ckin love this guy !
Is this guy short bus? Holy crap....
He definitely is.😂
Ticktock is literally brain rot
True
Could this guy be more smug while also acting in such bad faith?
That was hard to watch.
My jaw has been dropping since 30 seconds into this video
This dude’s constant appeal to the constitution is just making the constitution sound unreasonable
My god these people are so easy to defeat their logic. Thank you Andrew for exposing idiots.
God bless you Andrew. I couldnt argue with these idiots. They dont have any sense whatsoever.
In the SA scenario, you intervened and stopped the abuser because the action was.....illegal
So I was not in fact speeding unless it was proven in court regardless of what the speedometer indicated? What an idiot.
he a problem to why we have illegals and criminals all over the country.
So by his logic it's ok to break laws as long as we don't get convicted of our actions? Zero integrity and zero accountability.
Innocent until proven guilty but still have to sit in prison until you’re actually proven innocent
4:06 "it could have been in the heat of passion." WRONG. According to this TikToker that would ONLY be true if he was found guilty of doing that in a court of law. Otherwise it didn't happen. The COURT system defines if something happened or not. If this man was actually graped, and the person graped went to court and was found not guilty, well it didn't happen. He cant be guilty of doing something "in the heat of passion." In the united states were innocent until proven guilty.
What. A. Douche.
he is so mad
Andrew Wilson appears to be the only person on the internet with any brain cells left. How does he have the patience to argue with these idiots every day?
Ok what if someone broke into your house and unalived your sister in front of you, then ran away? Are they still innocent until proven guilty?
Techically yes, however, in that circumstance, as Andrew pointed out, you have the right to defend yourself and your sister in that situation which in many places, include lethal force.
Yes, literally. Unless he pleads guilty.
@@TheChocoboWhisperer nobody is talking about in the eyes of the law. He saw him fo it, so he knows he's a criminal.
@@seanfenrir none of that has anything to do with this. The point is, just because someone hasn't been caught, doesmt mean they're not a criminal.
@@seanfenriryou don't get it, as neither did the tick tock person Andrew was speaking with.
If there's no crime being enacted, you have no right to defend yourself, your property, or others.
For the state to enact punishment of a crime, a conviction is required. You defending yourself is not the state enacting punishment, but you as an individual. Of which, you determined guilt upon enacting the self defense.
The question following that ends up being, does the state view your action as lawful or not and frequently in many states, they'll prosecute you for doing so regardless of the outcome of the "self defense".
Why does he have to make a question so complicated, right because it blows up his entire narrative
Purposely obtuse, he's effectively winking with every word... "Yeah they aren't guilty *wink* they haven't been charged *wink*"
These people have voting power.
If they are an American citizen they cant be illegal.
Even if, this would not change legality of trespassers.
@@WielkaStopa-qh1rr hmm
What’s scary is this guy will potentially one day be on a jury.
"I'm here for a civil conversation"
No, he was there to make a disingenuous argument and dodge real questions, apparently.
Most intelligent progressive.
I've debated this dude. The minute I made him look stupid he booted me
They’re also not citizens. Why would they be subject to the same benefits of due process? If they’re asylum seekers they should be requesting for political asylum in their country or neighboring country at the U.S. Embassy. They don’t have the right to enter our country and stay here while they wait for a judge to process their asylum claims. That’s utter BS.
In this time, plenty of Poles could not grant legally entry but other millions of illegal migrants are coming anyway.
12 minutes of a guy unable or unwilling to distinguish between the objective fact of one’s criminal status and the reasonable case made to determine their guilt.
Innocence is objectively not the same as presumed innocence.
4:02 ok, let's say they are on film unaliving someone, the justice system decides not to prosecute. THEY HAVE STILL HAVE COMMITED A CRIME!
I am a progressive and no he hasnt because adversarial contest and court of law and innocent until proven guilty...
Yup. Happens all the time, every single day. Hell, that's the reason people called O.J Simpson a murderer even though he was acquitted.
He is taking "innocent until proven guilty" to literally. It's like with "all men are created equally" both are how the law should treat you. They are moral statements.
It's a FELONY and mandatory imprisonnent for a US citizen who enters the US illegally, not through a port of entry. This guy didn't know what he was talking about at all.
I'd be annoyed when he asked "in regards to what about the border?" I'd be done with the conversation when he starts going "Well illegal means...."
That is a perfect example of a bad faith actor being deliberately obtuse.
You cant arrest me officer, i haven’t been convicted of the crime yet. So its not illegal
-this guys logic
I'm so sick of these gas lighters
Wow! 😂 If the act is not illegal in the first place, you can't be charged (and found guilty).
Bro just answered every question with something completely irrelevant. He was having a whole other conversation lmao.
I think he got pink hair under that cap he a lefty
a communist a traitor to americans and the usa. anyone who think they are not illegal crossing the border is a M O R O N
Well, he definitely doesn't have a brain under that cap. That's for sure. Lol
Jesus!!! There’s a difference between GUILTY vs ILLEGAL
That is a whole lot of confidence in that level of stupidity. We have failed our youth
6 minutes in... and the other guy still DOES NOT understand what the actual question is
Handle it?? Shiiii you're the one who couldn't handle it! 🤣
This guy loves to take the position that if you're not there in the forest and a tree falls it doesn't make a noise. The only way I can make a noise is if you're there. Wow wow wow
This is why we need a test before you vote
I would like to believe that someone watching this live actually learned how full of BS that guy is and started getting their information from someone who isn't "Special Needs".
"Jury of his peers" there wasnt even a jury in the NY state trial 😂
that clown tiktoker got so butthurt and triggered when realized he lost lol
Paraphrase: "If you break into someone's house rob them but don't get caught then you haven't done anything illegal" what a dimwit:D
This level of willful ignorance is astonishing
All right no more middle ground no more moderation no more shaking hands with the left the gloves are off
This is insane
Is this guy related to Wes?
These tiktok debates he does are really good. It exposes people's bad arguments very quickly. Too bad Andrew's logic doesn't get through this guys thick skull. I was hoping for it to be a longer debate.
Bad faith Andrew, how dare you. 🤣
You've heard of pre-crime
But this guy talks about Retroactive criminal justice
"In a world where nothing is a crime until you are convicted everyone's afraid"
Some rando led away in cuffs "I was just walking"
"Yes, but now it is a crime you see and you'll spend the rest of your days behind bars"
One is persumed innocent till proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW.
Court is there to prove who is responsible for said crime.
Smug and stupid is *not* a good combo.
Cant help but bring up trump out of no where 😂😂
Their location makes the presumption of innocence impossible. If a non citizen without a visa is here, then they’re illegal.
It is not legal for a U.S. citizen to enter the United States outside of a designated port of entry. U.S. law requires that all persons entering the country, including citizens, must do so at an official port of entry and be subject to inspection by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Entering the country through any other means, such as crossing the border at an unofficial location, is illegal and can result in legal consequences.
This dude discovered the ultimate life hack: You can’t engage in illegal activity if a court never convicts you of it.
Damn dude got lit up by his chat
Wow, did he run from that question. 🏃♂️
Dunning-Kruger effect on display.
10:26 UNO REVERSE CARD ACTIVATED 💀
This guy is a perfect encapsulation of the modern “progressive”… says alot of words to obfuscate any premise to sound smart but is in fact quite unintelligent
Does innocent until proven guilty even apply to non citizens?😂
This guy got himself all confused about something being a legal, and whether you’re found guilty those are two different things.
The amount of people in the Tik Tok comment section saying Andrew got owned is terrifying