I can't believe this, I had given up and settled with the last tube as being the last ever! I'm so excited! We have not had a new considerable map for like 4 years! I blame twisted tuning!
@@airjaff I know right! I couldn’t believe it either since MHD seemed like they were no longer interested in the N55, especially N55e. But here we are! Can’t wait for MHD+
@@JasonJoyrides me personally I would also love to see that. I have some dragy times made on 1.6 maps, gonna redo them on the beta maps in about 2 weeks
@@minulachis wish I had a dragy to get some legit times. Also wish I had space near me to do 60-130 runs but I’m out in the country. Not the best idea…
@@JasonJoyrides so, with Dragy I had 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 4.62 seconds, 100-200 km/h (roughly 62-120 mph) in 12.39 seconds and 1/4 in 12.73 seconds on 1.60 maps. Will come back with an update once I redo them on the beta maps. Also, the temperature might play a big factor. When I did those temperatures, there were around 25 degrees Celsius outside, now it's colder.
@JasonJoyrides I would really like to see if there is a real difference between the beta and the 1.60 map. Then we will know if our but dyno is correct 😂
I have just updated to v2.0 coming from v1.6 stg1+. Im happy the hickups i had while cruising on the highway are now gonne. I just want to validate now if my valvetronic fault when weather is bellow 5C will also go away (bmw has done a fix for that in the past but seems not to be included in mhd). Thank you for your video as i didnt know about this update release.
@@rodrigomeca I’m not sure about the valvetronic code fault you’re having. I wonder if a software update is required in order to integrate the fix that BMW had for it. I’m not knowledgeable on this fault though unfortunately.
@@JasonJoyrides Jaosn, it is very easy to find info about it. There is a bmw technical service bulleetin for this: SI B12 04 15 DMW INTERNAL AND VALVETRONIC FAULTS SET AT COLD AMBIENT TEMPERATURES
Messed around with stage 1 on the 2.xx map coming from stage 1+ on 1.60 and it feels really comparable. If anything the new map is easier to drive and has more low end. Still hitting similar numbers for boost. I also noticed that the F/G MHD app isn’t picking up the code for my exhaust flap being disconnected. Not that it really matters just something I noticed. Appreciate the videos man!
Sweeeeeet. That's weird about the exhaust flap code. I know that with MHD+ we will get the option to configure the exhaust flap in any mode so you may be able to hook it back up eventually and get that code to go away completely
I have a manual, the pull on low throttle is really bad, it's so sluggish. You have to floor it to feel the power. I endup having to by a throttle controller got a sprint booster which made the car feel so so so much better! I'm hoping this new map makes it better so I don't need the throttle controller!
@@antaeusr I was actually waiting on my hardware at the time because I took the door off hoping the stuff I had from another project would work but they were barely too short so I just left the door off for a couple days. Got the 270 degree hinges on now though. They’re sweet! I love this printer so far. Gonna use it in an upcoming video
I threw on the beta maps and after a drive and only one quick pull, car started jittering all over the place in low rpms, i took it off as soon as it started. Hopefully they come through with a smooth transition to the new stuff
It seems to working well for most people but a couple guys have had issues. Hate that for you man! My only guess is that the new maps are less conservative so it is blatantly obvious if you have hardware not operating at 100% or gas that is lower quality than advertised. Just guesses and speculation though. Hopefully it works for you in the future!
Thanks, bro! I've been on v1.60 for a while after a few underwhelming 1.84 flashes and I wouldn't have known about this if it wasn't for the video. Is it a long write or a quick 30 sec. flash? I dont have a trickle charger right now 😢.
@@JasonJoyrides I flashed MHD Stage 2 v2.00 (F3x PWG) and it is fast! I cannot really compare to a older Stage 2 map, but flashing went OK. Will do a datalog soon.
@@base1y dude same! I swore I wouldn’t get the kind of caps with the wing because I thought they looked silly but then I saw this one that looks a lot closer to the 1M mirrors so I got them. I’ll try to dig up the link. They were like 20 bucks
@JasonJoyrides that would be awesome, the stock ones are just a little too small and boring but I've bought two sets of the aftermarket ones and the wings are just so big it's almost cartoonish, lol. I've seen you on some of the 1 series forums on FB. Thanks for sharing all of the info and experiences!
No sir no extra purchase necessary. Just download the F+G app and log in like you did when you first downloaded N55e. It will recognize your license and VIN.
@@Levrrrrr do you mean when did I flash my DCT? Or when do you flash in relation to MHD? xHP is completely separate from MHD. You can flash either one as much as you want and they will not affect one another. I flashed xHP on my car several months ago after I did a full service. I’ve flashed MHD maps probably 20 times since then in all of my different testing and the trans tune never changes.
@ Could you please tell me: I bought an MHD Super License for the E series and installed Stage 2+. To do the same as in this video, do I also need to purchase a license for the F and G series, or is it enough just to download the app to my phone?
@@Levrrrrr no extra purchase. The new maps are included with your original license. You just download the F+G app and log into your same account just like you did when you first got the N55e app. It will recognize your license. The xHP tune is awesome. The DCT acts much more like an M car. Upshifts are extremely snappy. Sometimes I'll even get a loud crack out the back on upshifts. Downshifts are much quicker too. It's like the car barks instead of revs. It's also nice to adjust the shiftpoints and launch control although I don't really use launch control for fear of breaking something.
@@JasonJoyrides Thank you for your responses-I really enjoy what you’re doing and sharing with us! I live in New York and have a 2013 BMW e82 135i with DCT. It would be awesome to go for a drive together someday. After watching your video, I also got the dream of driving the Tail of the Dragon!
Hi Jason, will it be safe for us to have and use the BETA maps until the official one comes out? Or this BETA maps is only for us to try a couple of days or weeks?
I have been running the BETA maps for several weeks now. As far as I know, these maps are safe to use. I doubt MHD would have released them to the public if they were not. This project has been going on for several months. Back in June, they were originally only sharing new maps with those that volunteered to be BETA testers. After having good results, they released them to the public. My guess is they are still called the BETA maps because they will probably make a couple tweaks and then release the official maps along with MHD+. Just my theory. If you are concerned, best thing you can do is to take logs and make sure that everything is looking good and safe. Make sure your boost is not going wildly above or below the target, make sure you are not having any timing corrections, and make sure you are not running lean. In my case, I am confident with my logs and the way that the car feels to drive so I am not returning to the old maps.
@@Sleepy335i oh that’s one thing I forgot to mention in the video! The burbles on these maps are different. The OEM style has the volume of the 1.6 soft burbles but are less gun shot like. I’m on OEM style .9sec with the 2.XX map.
One question, i opened the F&G series app today and i only had the 2.0 map for PWG option, my car is EWG, wth do i do run the PWG one or there is no option for EWG e series?:( Please help
@@kaMikaze-fe4wy are you sure it’s 2.XX beta for PWG? I’m not sure what version they’re up to on f series N55 but if it was 2.0 then it’s just a coincidence
@@JasonJoyrides Thanks for the reply! When i open the 2.0 map on top it says flash map for n55 PWG, and when i go to the old maps it doesn't say PWG. So i thought these new ones are only for PWG...
@ weird yeah I wouldn’t suggest flashing it if it says PWG then… might want to reach out to MHD about that. Sounds like they might be doing something behind the scenes that is messing with stuff
I recently got my e82 N55 and looking to go stage 2 MHD. Is it a good idea to go straight to these new Beta tunes? Or is it better to wait until they come out of beta testing.?
@@ishannage248 for my car, I’m confident in the quality of these tunes and them being safe to run. With you not ever running MHD before though I can understand your concern. You can go with the 1.6 version if you want to swap to the new maps later, or just go with the beta version straight away and try a different version if there’s issues. I don’t think it would blow your engine up regardless. Just do a log and make sure you’re not running lean, boost isn’t far from the target, and aren’t getting timing corrections.
@@JasonJoyridesonly thing i can see causing detonation is the pulling harder off the line, i feel people will not be used to this run the car a little harder cold and there goes a piston, just be careful for over boosting while is cold do not step on that hoe cold
@@sl0wf.30 absolutely. Never beat on these cars before they warm up. I think that should be a given, tuned or not. Hopefully people are reading this and realize the severity of it is much greater on this platform than a Toyota Corolla.
Do we have access to the anti lag and stuff in the beta? Or will we still have to wait for that gonna be loading the beta map up tomorrow morning seeing how it goes either way
@@SylosLobbies anti lag is part of MHD+ which they are still testing on the e series N55 before they release it. I’ll make an update video as soon as we have it
@@ValentinoSnyder yes and yes. Tried E30 this past weekend because I was visiting an area that has E85. Truthfully, I didn’t notice much of a difference. I’ll have to do more testing with it in the future when I have better access to E85.
Hi mate you think is good if i try the beta maps on my e92 n55 pwg xdrive with a stg3 because i have a pureturbos stg2 upgrade and i dont know if is good because ago i have stg2+ v1.60 but give a overboost and missfire because the turbo is more big than stock now i'm a custom map and is strong the car and all is right but i thinking maybe try this new maps what you think?
@@luisrenasrs8217 custom map should be better than an OTS map. I would imagine you’d have the same issues on the BETA maps as well. There is a hybrid turbo option so idk if it could work a little better than the original 1.6 map you were running but I doubt an OTS map would beat your custom tune.
@@JasonJoyrides humm i understand but maybe i try only for see what change for the 1.60 because the custom map is very strong and a soft custom map because i use only 18/19psi on gas 98ron and i'm dyno 423hp and 630nm torke with xhp stg3 on my AT6 gearbox and stock hpfp and injectors stock but now this winter i go upgraded my hpfp with helix overdrive kit and a new custom map for i try pass the 500hp😅
@carcrazyguysa4059 They said they plan to give us MHD+ and I saw a comment on a Facebook post where someone said they heard that testing is going well. I wouldn’t lose out hope yet!
If you flash the BETA maps let me know what your thoughts are on it!
So happy to see us getting some love after years and years
@@BCtrapcat yes! This was very unexpected to be honest
@@JasonJoyridesI saw it on some Facebook comments and I no longer feel neglected
I can't believe this, I had given up and settled with the last tube as being the last ever! I'm so excited! We have not had a new considerable map for like 4 years! I blame twisted tuning!
@@airjaff I know right! I couldn’t believe it either since MHD seemed like they were no longer interested in the N55, especially N55e. But here we are! Can’t wait for MHD+
Thanks for the effort and comparisons
@@ogwest0704 absolutely!
just tried out v2.xx, definitely felt a difference from v1.60 about 3-4 psi more. on a 335i e93 downpipe, chargepipe and intake stage 2
@@jorgeaguilera2848 awesome!!
How do I download the beta map I have an iOS device I can’t see what he sees
any runs in mexico yet? would love to hear about how it runs on the hw
Finally!!! I’m excited for this
I Flashed beta map
(PS2 hybrid map)
on my N55 swapped E46!
Works great so far ✨👌
N55 swapped E46?? That's sick dude! That thing must drive like a dream.
@@JasonJoyrides definitely does!!!!
I have a “how to n55 swap a e46”
video on my page! Parts list only.
@@Tec_KnowTech I saw that! Dude post up some videos of you ripping that thing! I'd definitely subscribe to see that!
Just tried on my e70 and no bueno mhd wasnt able to erase dme. Idk ill try again later.
@@antaeusr I had a failed flash like that as well. Retried right after and was successful.
@@JasonJoyrides I'll give it a shot. I am really looking forward to some of the more advanced features. Not so much more power but more options
@@antaeusr agreed! The extra down low torque is nice but I can’t wait to try MHD+
Are you also going to compare the times with this new map?
@@ogwest0704 not sure. Is that something you feel you need to see?
@@JasonJoyrides me personally I would also love to see that. I have some dragy times made on 1.6 maps, gonna redo them on the beta maps in about 2 weeks
@@minulachis wish I had a dragy to get some legit times. Also wish I had space near me to do 60-130 runs but I’m out in the country. Not the best idea…
@@JasonJoyrides so, with Dragy I had 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 4.62 seconds, 100-200 km/h (roughly 62-120 mph) in 12.39 seconds and 1/4 in 12.73 seconds on 1.60 maps. Will come back with an update once I redo them on the beta maps. Also, the temperature might play a big factor. When I did those temperatures, there were around 25 degrees Celsius outside, now it's colder.
@JasonJoyrides I would really like to see if there is a real difference between the beta and the 1.60 map. Then we will know if our but dyno is correct 😂
Finally some n55 e updates from mhd
I have just updated to v2.0 coming from v1.6 stg1+.
Im happy the hickups i had while cruising on the highway are now gonne.
I just want to validate now if my valvetronic fault when weather is bellow 5C will also go away (bmw has done a fix for that in the past but seems not to be included in mhd). Thank you for your video as i didnt know about this update release.
@@rodrigomeca I’m not sure about the valvetronic code fault you’re having. I wonder if a software update is required in order to integrate the fix that BMW had for it. I’m not knowledgeable on this fault though unfortunately.
@@JasonJoyrides Jaosn, it is very easy to find info about it. There is a bmw technical service bulleetin for this: SI B12 04 15 DMW INTERNAL AND VALVETRONIC FAULTS SET AT COLD AMBIENT TEMPERATURES
Nice one mate! love the app view and comparisons. I agree better low end and top end acceleration.
Messed around with stage 1 on the 2.xx map coming from stage 1+ on 1.60 and it feels really comparable. If anything the new map is easier to drive and has more low end. Still hitting similar numbers for boost.
I also noticed that the F/G MHD app isn’t picking up the code for my exhaust flap being disconnected. Not that it really matters just something I noticed. Appreciate the videos man!
Sweeeeeet. That's weird about the exhaust flap code. I know that with MHD+ we will get the option to configure the exhaust flap in any mode so you may be able to hook it back up eventually and get that code to go away completely
I have a manual, the pull on low throttle is really bad, it's so sluggish. You have to floor it to feel the power. I endup having to by a throttle controller got a sprint booster which made the car feel so so so much better! I'm hoping this new map makes it better so I don't need the throttle controller!
You need some 270 hinges on that k1 max also. Im assuming thats why there isnt a door.
@@antaeusr I was actually waiting on my hardware at the time because I took the door off hoping the stuff I had from another project would work but they were barely too short so I just left the door off for a couple days. Got the 270 degree hinges on now though. They’re sweet! I love this printer so far. Gonna use it in an upcoming video
@@JasonJoyrides nice 👍🏽 I love my k1 Max just so damn fast. Waiting on the k2 plus with cfs to drop also
@@antaeusr yessss I would love to have K2 plus with CFS. Multimaterial pronting would be very beneficial for the kind of stuff I’m wanting to do
I threw on the beta maps and after a drive and only one quick pull, car started jittering all over the place in low rpms, i took it off as soon as it started. Hopefully they come through with a smooth transition to the new stuff
It seems to working well for most people but a couple guys have had issues. Hate that for you man! My only guess is that the new maps are less conservative so it is blatantly obvious if you have hardware not operating at 100% or gas that is lower quality than advertised. Just guesses and speculation though. Hopefully it works for you in the future!
@ i do have xhp as well and i dont know if that has anything to do with it, im just gonna hang tight and wait for more
@@gewdies I have xHP and it has been fine for me. I do know someone else who has xHP and was having misfires on the new maps though.
Thanks, bro! I've been on v1.60 for a while after a few underwhelming 1.84 flashes and I wouldn't have known about this if it wasn't for the video. Is it a long write or a quick 30 sec. flash? I dont have a trickle charger right now 😢.
@@base1y it’s a long write but it only takes about 4-5 minutes
Would be nice!!!!!!!
I'm about to flash Stage 2, so I might try the 2.xx beta map. I have a 2012 E91 335i (N55).
@@Dutch79 let me know what you think!
@@JasonJoyrides I flashed MHD Stage 2 v2.00 (F3x PWG) and it is fast! I cannot really compare to a older Stage 2 map, but flashing went OK. Will do a datalog soon.
@@Dutch79 interesting so were you using N55e before since you are PWG or did F+G series work already before the BETA maps?
@@JasonJoyrides No, I had the normal MHD Stage 1 for N55e (v1.8).
@@Dutch79 Okay that's what I figured. Funny to think about using the e series app on an F chassis lol
can we use the orange MHD adapter for this? i got 2011 135i,
@@holgerolsen8813 that’s what I use!
Hey Jason, where did you get your side mirror caps? I like how the wings aren't so exaggerated as they are on the ones I have installed.
@@base1y dude same! I swore I wouldn’t get the kind of caps with the wing because I thought they looked silly but then I saw this one that looks a lot closer to the 1M mirrors so I got them. I’ll try to dig up the link. They were like 20 bucks
@@base1y
a.aliexpress.com/_mO8Puw4
@JasonJoyrides that would be awesome, the stock ones are just a little too small and boring but I've bought two sets of the aftermarket ones and the wings are just so big it's almost cartoonish, lol. I've seen you on some of the 1 series forums on FB. Thanks for sharing all of the info and experiences!
@ I don’t do hours of research just to keep it all to myself! Lol
@@JasonJoyrides ordered, thanks again!
What's the hybrid option for?
@@klauskinski1177 I believe it’s for if you have a hybrid turbo
How are yall getting the beta 2.xx? Still only got 1.8 as a option
@@laieakana8360 did you download the F+G app? Second chapter of the video
thanks for sharing！should I buy another license for mhd F+G to get these maps？or just download the app
No sir no extra purchase necessary. Just download the F+G app and log in like you did when you first downloaded N55e. It will recognize your license and VIN.
When do you flash DCT to xHP flash?
@@Levrrrrr do you mean when did I flash my DCT? Or when do you flash in relation to MHD? xHP is completely separate from MHD. You can flash either one as much as you want and they will not affect one another. I flashed xHP on my car several months ago after I did a full service. I’ve flashed MHD maps probably 20 times since then in all of my different testing and the trans tune never changes.
@ Could you please tell me: I bought an MHD Super License for the E series and installed Stage 2+. To do the same as in this video, do I also need to purchase a license for the F and G series, or is it enough just to download the app to my phone?
@ Did you also feel a difference when you installed the xHP tune?
@@Levrrrrr no extra purchase. The new maps are included with your original license. You just download the F+G app and log into your same account just like you did when you first got the N55e app. It will recognize your license.
The xHP tune is awesome. The DCT acts much more like an M car. Upshifts are extremely snappy. Sometimes I'll even get a loud crack out the back on upshifts. Downshifts are much quicker too. It's like the car barks instead of revs. It's also nice to adjust the shiftpoints and launch control although I don't really use launch control for fear of breaking something.
@@JasonJoyrides Thank you for your responses-I really enjoy what you’re doing and sharing with us! I live in New York and have a 2013 BMW e82 135i with DCT. It would be awesome to go for a drive together someday. After watching your video, I also got the dream of driving the Tail of the Dragon!
Hi Jason, will it be safe for us to have and use the BETA maps until the official one comes out? Or this BETA maps is only for us to try a couple of days or weeks?
I have been running the BETA maps for several weeks now. As far as I know, these maps are safe to use. I doubt MHD would have released them to the public if they were not. This project has been going on for several months. Back in June, they were originally only sharing new maps with those that volunteered to be BETA testers. After having good results, they released them to the public. My guess is they are still called the BETA maps because they will probably make a couple tweaks and then release the official maps along with MHD+. Just my theory.
If you are concerned, best thing you can do is to take logs and make sure that everything is looking good and safe. Make sure your boost is not going wildly above or below the target, make sure you are not having any timing corrections, and make sure you are not running lean. In my case, I am confident with my logs and the way that the car feels to drive so I am not returning to the old maps.
@ alright! Definitely will try it on the weekend and do some logs 👌
@@kevinindrawan3068 good luck sir!
Yeeeehhhh🎉
@@55_Ski dang bro clean 1er!!
@@JasonJoyrides yoo thanks ! I appreciate that !!
I need your burble settings sounds soo good
@@Sleepy335i oh that’s one thing I forgot to mention in the video! The burbles on these maps are different. The OEM style has the volume of the 1.6 soft burbles but are less gun shot like. I’m on OEM style .9sec with the 2.XX map.
@ what rpms homie ?
@@Sleepy335i 1800-7000
@@JasonJoyrides thank you
@@JasonJoyrides these sound too good just flashed
One question, i opened the F&G series app today and i only had the 2.0 map for PWG option, my car is EWG, wth do i do run the PWG one or there is no option for EWG e series?:( Please help
@@kaMikaze-fe4wy are you sure it’s 2.XX beta for PWG? I’m not sure what version they’re up to on f series N55 but if it was 2.0 then it’s just a coincidence
@@JasonJoyrides Thanks for the reply! When i open the 2.0 map on top it says flash map for n55 PWG, and when i go to the old maps it doesn't say PWG. So i thought these new ones are only for PWG...
@ weird yeah I wouldn’t suggest flashing it if it says PWG then… might want to reach out to MHD about that. Sounds like they might be doing something behind the scenes that is messing with stuff
I can’t find the Beta update can you please tell me how to get it
@@fadeenanaa4495 you need download the F+G app. I show what that app looks like in the second chapter
Can't use the 2.xx but I can't wait for the MHD+ so I can use some anti-lag. Been using the f/g app for logs as it's so much better and faster
Ok so how do I download it? I have an iOS device and the super license for my 535
@@gavincall5929 you have to download the F+G app. I talk about it in the second chapter
I recently got my e82 N55 and looking to go stage 2 MHD. Is it a good idea to go straight to these new Beta tunes? Or is it better to wait until they come out of beta testing.?
@@ishannage248 for my car, I’m confident in the quality of these tunes and them being safe to run. With you not ever running MHD before though I can understand your concern. You can go with the 1.6 version if you want to swap to the new maps later, or just go with the beta version straight away and try a different version if there’s issues. I don’t think it would blow your engine up regardless. Just do a log and make sure you’re not running lean, boost isn’t far from the target, and aren’t getting timing corrections.
@ Thanks I appreciate the advice! Definitely gives me more confidence moving forward
@@JasonJoyridesonly thing i can see causing detonation is the pulling harder off the line, i feel people will not be used to this run the car a little harder cold and there goes a piston, just be careful for over boosting while is cold do not step on that hoe cold
@@sl0wf.30 absolutely. Never beat on these cars before they warm up. I think that should be a given, tuned or not. Hopefully people are reading this and realize the severity of it is much greater on this platform than a Toyota Corolla.
@ agreed, leave the oil change to bmw, everything else diy the n55 rods are so oil dependent 1 little dry spot your buying new metal
Do we have access to the anti lag and stuff in the beta? Or will we still have to wait for that gonna be loading the beta map up tomorrow morning seeing how it goes either way
@@SylosLobbies anti lag is part of MHD+ which they are still testing on the e series N55 before they release it. I’ll make an update video as soon as we have it
Are you fbo? Also have you tried the e30 beta map😮
@@ValentinoSnyder yes and yes. Tried E30 this past weekend because I was visiting an area that has E85. Truthfully, I didn’t notice much of a difference. I’ll have to do more testing with it in the future when I have better access to E85.
Hi mate you think is good if i try the beta maps on my e92 n55 pwg xdrive with a stg3 because i have a pureturbos stg2 upgrade and i dont know if is good because ago i have stg2+ v1.60 but give a overboost and missfire because the turbo is more big than stock now i'm a custom map and is strong the car and all is right but i thinking maybe try this new maps what you think?
@@luisrenasrs8217 custom map should be better than an OTS map. I would imagine you’d have the same issues on the BETA maps as well. There is a hybrid turbo option so idk if it could work a little better than the original 1.6 map you were running but I doubt an OTS map would beat your custom tune.
@@JasonJoyrides humm i understand but maybe i try only for see what change for the 1.60 because the custom map is very strong and a soft custom map because i use only 18/19psi on gas 98ron and i'm dyno 423hp and 630nm torke with xhp stg3 on my AT6 gearbox and stock hpfp and injectors stock but now this winter i go upgraded my hpfp with helix overdrive kit and a new custom map for i try pass the 500hp😅
@@luisrenasrs8217 yeah man give it a try if you’d like!
We waiting for 1.84 for 2 years and it was useless, made it slower, I took it off and went back to 1.60! I blame twisted tuning! Terrible tuners
I just want M2 style overun brap🥹
@@carcrazyguysa4059 ikr it sounds sick
Do you think it’ll ever be an option for us?
@@Butterwheelz I doubt it. It's been so many years.
@ my guess is yes it will once MHD+ is released for E series.
@carcrazyguysa4059 They said they plan to give us MHD+ and I saw a comment on a Facebook post where someone said they heard that testing is going well. I wouldn’t lose out hope yet!