@@coopsnz1 no, the middle class gets taxed between 35-39% income tax with a 25% vat, which is why the corporate tax is low which is good for small businesses
Won't happen because they will work actively against it.. "Thanks" to the cold war propaganda, they try where they can to call social democracy socialsm, and bring it in connection with Russia. Problem solved, the generally uneducated (at least regarding to everything that happens outside the US) americans will refuse it.
Bro America is the best country in the world. America creates all the drugs and technology that every other country including Scandinavian countries use. Don't be a sheep open your eyes and mind. People that do all the research and innovation are in America. Everyone wants to live in America. America has it so good a bunch of brats makes up fake problems.
@@i-am-your-conscience well, the one candidate for presidency who proposed anything similar to this system labeled himself a socialist, not a social democrat. So maybe blame him
I don’t consider myself an outright socialist-but I support the welfare state. It exists for reasons, and pretty damn good ones. And it strikes me that those who argue the most against it can only do so because they have the luxury of living in the modern day, where the welfare state exists.
Sure, being coerced to give 60% of my salary, 30% of my capital gains, 25% on anything I buy to the state to fund: the social democrat propaganda outlet; public schools where drunkards teach maths, Russians teach Swedish, Marxists teach philosophy and history; “free education” that brings college graduates onto carrying $50,000 debt on average; “free healthcare” that kills patients in waiting and leaves people with mental illness in desperation and helplessness; single moms who have kids with different men smoking next to the strollers; unvaccinated and undocumented male “migrants” to settle down in “little Mogadishu” while making ATM excavating and bomb tossing the new favorite pastimes; big families with a typical structure of one jobless father paired with four stay-at-home mothers and 20 children; law enforcement who would overlook cases of violent crimes; politicians/legislators who gave themselves raise after raise when elderly impoverishment exacerbates by the day; etc.. And all the while I have to work 10 hours a day, live frugally, pay for my own private health insurance, build a nest egg for my children and save for retirement, yet am not be able to donate as much as I would to the charity causes I care about. A paradise as promised, here you go.
@@lilypadkayaker Damn you just popped off! The sad truth in America, atm, is how those intelligent enough (on the left) are able to at least "half-accept" a debate 'on why communism is bad.' (ez dub as always) They'll then proceed to always revert to "well I meant I am a "democratic-socialist." All you have to do at that point is ask them the stark difference between a welfare-state and welfare-capitalism. They'll always start stuttering and you'll easily find inconsistencies and a way to dig in. The best you can do for these folks is hope they'll at-least lean into welfare-capitalism which is the less extreme point of view. Unfortunately in america, that's the hopeful 5% of the left. They are completely lost and it's scary as hell. History repeats itself and I don't know anyone can break the cycle.
The welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the social and economic well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life. The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization. The sociologist T. H. Marshall described the modern welfare state as a distinctive combination of democracy, welfare, and capitalism. Modern welfare states include Germany, France, the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, as well as the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland, which employ a system known as the Nordic model. Esping-Andersen classified the most developed welfare state systems into three categories; Social Democratic, Conservative, and Liberal. The welfare state involves a transfer of funds from the state, to the services provided (i.e., healthcare, education, etc.), as well as directly to individuals ("benefits"). It is funded through redistributionist taxation and is often referred to as a type of "mixed economy". Such taxation usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax. Proponents argue that this helps reduce the income gap between the rich and poor.
In America the welfare state perpetuates poverty by incentivizing single parenthood and lower income jobs. People that are afraid to lose their welfare benefits will work less hours and lower paying jobs to remain on said benefits. Many mothers will opt to stay single because welfare acts as a replacement of parent, therefore making single parenthood more prevalent. Just look at the black family which survived through slavery and Jim Crow just to be undermined by the welfare state.
And they have been wrong ever since. The welfare state have done nothing except ruin the people at the bottom How do you explain the poverty rate never decline among 60 years of it? And somehow black family structure being ruined, the rate of single parenthood now is 89%, that's much much higher than when they were in slavery, and before the Civil rights movement. Did black people just get dumber or is it the welfare state that gave them a pass for making dumb choices are at fault?
@@Caligula6969 ruclips.net/video/RIwkZYdSelE/видео.html&ab_channel=ThomasSowellTV "How the Welfare state ruined black families", short clip with a national treasure of our time Thomas Sowell sharing his knowledge
The issue is that something like security is not a right, and to have it is to give up freedom. I don't know where this idea that security is a right in a democracy came from, but it's quite strange and I've never heard it outside of European circles. Sadly I do not know about the conservative model enough to really argue against it, but it seems strange that it would only benefit a certain type of worker. Economic freedom isn't achieved by taking everyone's income that way and so the social democratic model doesn't really work for that. It's very much a security focused model.
Where i come From, being Safe ad having a Life in dignity is my right. Our First amendment even says "human dignity is unviolatable and the goverment needs to Use all Its Power to protect it' When you Life in poverty, cant afford Healthcare or food or education that human dignity is violated. Security is a right in Our countries, and being free From harm and fear is also a very valuable freedom. Its comparable to US Americans being petty of their "right to bear arms" wich we europeans dont really get
I am in the UK which uses the first type of welfare state you mention in this video. The UK system is terrible due to how it treats the unemployed. Society thinks anyone on benefits are scroungers and feels sorry for the taxpayer. There is a huge divide between the employed and unemployed. Also Job Centres here have things called 'sanctions' which stop peoples' benefits anywhere from 3 months to 3 years for any sort of non-compliance. This includes silly things like turning up late for a job-seekers interview (known as 'signing on') even when it's not your fault or not attending an interview due to a medical emergency. It leaves such people hungry and prone to homelessness. I have created a video on my RUclips channel proposing a radical change to the welfare system to make it fair for everyone and to get rid of discrimination.
In Sweden, if a young woman has a kid out of wedlock, welfare will pay. If she does it again, no more money from the government. We should do that in the US. We have a leeching, dependent system in the US.
@@fellinuxvi3541 those are the pre requisites for this system, these things don't magically appear after enforcing it. Not to mention, a not so mature society would just end up in corruption and pile of debt.
I believe that he uses any ordinary video editing software. If you look carefully you can see the shadow from his hand, showing that there's a strong light from the bottom right corner. When he drags the cartoons, you can see the limits of the paper, showing that he probably has some white papers with drawings.
The problem is you're handing over self-sufficiency for government dependence. If you have a corrupt Government you'll end up with a class of Nobles will dominance over almost every aspect of your life. A revolution would be easiest in places where the welfare state is the weakest. It the responsibility of the people to destroy and rebuild government when it is necessary.
I know this is 4 years old, but we experience this already under brutal capitalism in the USA. The top 1% of wealthy people here control our lives more than even the government does.
@@SpaceNavy90 America is corporatist tbh. Y'all should march. An affordable health care system is something you guys should fight for atleast....I assume, regardless of political inclination, most people would be on the same boat here.
@@harshjain3122 We do. We just disagree on how that's done. One side believes it requires government intervention and the other believes it would go down naturally if the government was just out completely. The issue with the US is that it's in a very bad middle ground where the government is just enough involved to get all of the downsides and none of the upsides.
@@SpaceNavy90 Well no the Only reason they have that is because they're in control of our government. They actively go in there to make things harder on competitors and easier for themselves
@@wow9279 Is there anything special about the democratic system that makes it different? Or maybe the media system and other ways of communicating within society?
One thing I am confused about in this system, if pay would be equal, what incentive is there to have success, you could do fine in fields with easy jobs, so why be a doctor or a nurse which are pretty stressful jobs, would it be that all the easy jobs are hard to find so you must take a difficult career to get by
@@harshjain3122 if everyone stopped working there would be no money generating(as with any society), no money=no welfare=no unemployment benefits. It's pretty simple.
All means based welfare systems should be scrapped and replaced with a Universal Basic Income. The savings on the bureaucracy alone would be substantial, as would the re-diverted payouts into the new system. No-one is left behind, and each person takes full responsibility for their basic needs. Food, shelter, and heat should NOT be considered luxuries in a civilised 21st century society. For those complaining that people will not work, well, they're not working anyway, but mostly due to not having a place of residence or basic means. A UBI would give them that security and a solid floor to build apon. It's time to stop trying to solve 21st Century problems with 20th Century thinking.
Dude the fucking illuminati has to be running Canada's healthcare system, and this is coming from a conservative in the United States. They don't spend as much as the U.S. on healthcare, yet the stereotype at least is that theirs is best. idk man
Canada is a constitutionally of welfare state but it's largely based of the social liberalism model of welfare. But our health care system and pension is very similar to that of Scandinavia's. The third largest federal party here in Canada is the NDP which is social democracy party and is the same party who's MP Tommy Douglas came up with the idea of universal health care in the 1960s. Even though Tommy Douglas was a democratic socialist, he often sided with social democracy for the long run and the benefit of all Canadians. Same with our prime minister in the 1960s Lester B. Pearson. He was a social liberal by political identity but in large was a supporter of social democracy policies.
Has the person who made this video ever been to Sweden and taken a look at what the welfare system looks like in reality? If you’re on welfare you certainly do no have the right to participate in much as the payments are too low and not in line with inflation. This is most obvious when you look at payments to refugees who are waiting for their application to be considered. They get less than 100 SEK a day or 2000 SEK a month which doesn’t even cover rent and hasn’t been increased since 1992. Most people on unemployment benefit are lucky to receive 80% of their previous earnings and if you don’t have enough money from that to live on well too bad.
Have you compared These swedes With very poor people without a welfare system? The system itself might have Its way to Go still, but Its also better than without
Most people don't take advantage of generosity in times of need but more can be done on the govts part to protect from criminal activity within those programs. Food, water, shelter and medical care are life necessities and should be ensured for all needy citizens. Also, food doesn't mean a 5 star restaurant, water doesn't mean wine, shelter doesn't mean a 5 bedroom house, and medical care isn't a sex change operation.
No competition? :D In Germany, there are 110 health insurance companies to choose from :D Believe me, there is competition. What you think of, is, still, Russia, or Communism. Thats the achievement of american brainwashing
People are not lazy. its a misconception created by rich. Because they benifit the most from it. If people don't rely on jobs to live then they can negotiate better salaries. It's not like people don't wanna work they just don't wanna work a shitty job for $8 an hour.
When people only Work because they starve without, Its a shitty system to Begin With. People want to Work. Also welfare only protects From poverty. You cant really have luxuries, vacation, or Something you could Pass on to your kids
@@georgekingiv8171 You would be suprised how lazy some people are. If you are incentivised (indirectly) to do nothing and get support financially then many will do so. Atleast here in Finland.
Well, some people work because they love what they're doing. Teaching, giving social services for kids, old people, and so on, doing arts, sports, etc. I think that's the ideal condition when people can do what they love without the fear of not earning enough money to buy food, to access healthcare and education, and so on.
It’s a little early to say that the third one is the best model of society, there are plenty of down points in your personal freedom when having a government that big with high taxation
Dovenpeis Laissez-faire capitalism is the only ethical economic system. If the welfare system is voluntary, great. I have no issue with it. HOWEVER if it's mandated...Welfare, in general, promotes stagnation. It is a beacon for corruption and abuse. It requires theft. It rewards people who do not contribute to the system and punishes those who do. It is a system of involuntary slavery. What happens if I say no to contributing to the system? Below is a link to a debate which compares the ethics of capitalism and the ethics of socialism. I highly recommend watching it. It is very long though. ruclips.net/video/aGo2G1Sjb6M/видео.html A mandated welfare system is unethical.
Ethan You are wrong on so many levels. Let us start with your first assertion, that Laissez-faire capitalism is the only ethical economic system. How do you explain that? Exactly why and how is laissez-faire capitalism the only ethical economic system? Your second assertion is that government welfare promotes stagnation. The problem with that assertion is that the very successful Scandinavian welfare states thoroughly debunks that assertion. You know, empiricism and all. So what if you say no to contributing to the welfare state system? Should I care when I coerce you into accepting it, just like you do not give a shit when you want to, and in fact do, coerce me into accepting private property rights? I say that mandated private property rights are unethical without a welfare state to correct at least some of its social unfairness.
1) It's ethical because it does not require the direct violation of anyone's rights. All other economic systems do. Unfairness is not a justification for violation of rights. That's childish. 2) Citation for Scandinavian welfare, please? Those countries operate at relatively small scales. They have had close to zero population flux, it's a homogeneous and small population. It's impractical and unjustified to assume that whatever success you can observe in those countries would scale effectively. Private property is an objective truth, not a mandated edict. It is protected by government, not instituted by the government. Others do not have claims to value you have created. You have no claim to value that others have created. You alone are the owner for the products of your time and efforts. By what means would someone else make a claim to your time and effort? Only by voluntary interactions. Trade, barter, charity, goodwill, lend/loan, etc... Imagine we both live in a dessert. I have made a well as a source of water for myself and my needs. Are you entitled to my well? Do you need my permission to use it?
Yep, that is the greatest feature of this system. Social democracy is working to regulate the rich in favor of the majority of the population. This system serves the whole society, and not the few. Therefore many capitalists in the United States are spreading that socialism is dangerous, when its in fact only dangerous for them and their privileges.
Samuel John When i talk about 'Rich privileges', i talk about big cooperation which is influencing the government with their money to respond and serve them and not the majority of the population. You can only look at the United States were the rich is regulating themsels, and not the goverment. but i agree with you when it comes you should get what you have earned. But regulation is needed in order for the goverment to control the cooperation and privat intrests so it is not going out of controll. I recommend to read more about corporate fascism and how it is influencing politics which is supposed to be off the people, and not the few.
and then, along came the lucrative scam work programs under banners of 'so called charity', then the likes of atos, maximus scams, the list goes on, lucrative from the poor and sick, or be sanctioned... regards, tom, crystasl palace...
@@magnusorn7313 yeah sure, nobody is hungry in Denmark, you don't wait 2 weeks for a doctor appointment, the educations system isn't about to fail miserably because of scarcity, and the elders aren't going to sleep in shit stained underwear. Denmark is definitely NOT one of the worst places to live, but as of all liberal nations, compromises are always made in favor of the rich, for example by threatening of replacing danish factory workers and outsourcing work, if their self serving criteria (tax reduction) aren't met. The social policies aren't the problem here, the power dynamic is.
I think it comes from a victim mentality when people want equity of outcome. There needs to be some sort of reason to distinguish yourself from your peer, I personally would have no incentive to get up on the morning of I didn’t have to put food on the table…😊
Or depends If they are rich than they probably Font have the right to welfare. And even If, If the taxes of those rich people are high enough, they would pay way more than welfare could give Them Back
Stop spreading the myth of high taxes. The US working class pays more "taxes" if you count what they self-pay for insurance, healthcare, childcare, retirement, etc
Wrong liar... you aren't mentioning the very high purchase taxes in Denmark, Australia, switzland.. we aren't rich we equally poor working class of renters
This is in the U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8, but these same people violate U.S. laws, and avoid their oath of office and make up laws, similar to the politicians at home who use U.S. laws instead of administering the laws of that COUNTRY (Hawaiian Kingdom).
Without any shadow of a doubt that could be translated as a "War Crime" if and when you get your facts straight. So do your research or be a war criminal?
John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Social democracy...otherwise spelled taxpayer funded programs as opposed to equal opportunity to be self reliant. JFK would be proud...ask not what ur country can do for u , but what you can do for ur country . The Constitution says provide for the GENERAL welfare...not the SPECIFIC welfare .
But what happens when I don't want to support the welfare state? Suppose I see abuse or corruption or general ineffectiveness or unintended consequences. Can I say no to contributing?
Can you not pay taxes in modern society? No. Thats the price you pay for being allowed access to the same services as the rest of us. *IF* you had a problem, raise awareness of it with other voters to address the issue. Or if you aren't interested in doing that and only want to keep what little money you feel taxes are taking from you, you could always move somewhere else.
Vid not biased at all. Nope, nuh-uh. "The system I believe in is the perfect one. Utopia. All others are defective." Wake up. There is no perfect system. Would love to see an economist's critique of this.
02:54 "...the welfare state is just like a house; it is never finished." And that just about sums up the problem right there. "If you give a mouse a cookie..." Welfare recipients will want more and more, taxes will get higher and higher, and eventually rugged individualism and work ethic are disincentivized. Social d̶e̶m̶o̶c̶r̶a̶c̶y̶ ISM in a nutshell.
however, it is partly correct, the truth is it all depends on capital market, which is mostly ruined by private sectors. As socialdemokrats in Sweden are mostly occupying government jobs and that is the reason they always support red. Their job, salary, insurance, leave, family welfare have a robust safeguard by the law. Where as common people nothing is guaranteed. it may or may not. It all depends on your handlagare which is an socialdemokrats agent. If hen thinks hen will, then you may. For instance and best example for a so called robust social country like Sweden. Many Swedish people are out of jobs, homes, resources, at the same time Govt is taking refugees from all over, and providing them with all their requirements. Same time Swedish politicians is asking refugees to find a job at earliest, and those same politicians are giving interviews in tv and media, saying that it takes seven (7) years for a immigrants to come to a job market. What an double standard socialdemokrats ideology. This what is happening all over EU.
As Long as you are in a society you will Always Use Something someoen Else paid For, and you will pay For Others. Paying For the Bad choices of Others, and Others paying For your Bad choices is exactly why er have societys.
But that is how a society works. everyone gives so everyone can Profit. Who do you think is paying the Police that you call? The roads you Drive? I Bet Not only you.
No. With bigger taxes you got stronger Republic. That means that with tax money republic provides health care for all class of people, stronger military and security for people, free education and good quality public organization, such as better roads, better public places like parks, hospitals, etc.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah that's why best doctors and hospitals are in America. The best cancer care is in America. All the best medical research and development for drugs and technology is America's, and the Scandinavian states just feed off American innovation and military security because they don't have one.
you have the best doctors, but you average quality of doctors is sub par you have the best hospitals, but your average quality of hospitals is sub par you have the best cancer treatments, but your average quality cancer treatments are sub par so on and so on, you are a sub par nation that plays host to rich parasites, you are proud oh having the best of the best, but those are only there to serve your overlords, not you
The best doctors, but not everyone can afford them. I would rather have average doctors and hospitals that everyone has access to than the best doctors that many people will never be treated by
for some reason Scandinavian countries has the lowest rate of corruption and the highest rate of metal bands per capita
No they dont Denmark is 80% tax , 100% slave to goverment for middle class
Arthas93 Not bad, how are the schoolshootings going?
@@coopsnz1 indeed they are free, cause government at citizen's service.
I'm not a fan of metal, personally.
@@coopsnz1 no, the middle class gets taxed between 35-39% income tax with a 25% vat, which is why the corporate tax is low which is good for small businesses
Meanwhile America is like remove all welfare!
Rich and poor in America still have the basic rights.
Can't help but notice does the narrator is the same with the Kurzgesagt (in a nutshell)?
Asking myself the same question lmao
Yup. Gotta be, there's no way it's someone else
I'm also asking the same question
Ye same
Better the poor be on welfare rather than the rich.
I wish my country (U.S) would adopt the Nordic model.
Won't happen because they will work actively against it.. "Thanks" to the cold war propaganda, they try where they can to call social democracy socialsm, and bring it in connection with Russia. Problem solved, the generally uneducated (at least regarding to everything that happens outside the US) americans will refuse it.
Bro America is the best country in the world. America creates all the drugs and technology that every other country including Scandinavian countries use. Don't be a sheep open your eyes and mind. People that do all the research and innovation are in America. Everyone wants to live in America. America has it so good a bunch of brats makes up fake problems.
@@i-am-your-conscience well, the one candidate for presidency who proposed anything similar to this system labeled himself a socialist, not a social democrat. So maybe blame him
@@gizzinhereye what
Some American would confuse it as socialism and will reject it
The Kurzgesagt guy!!!!
You really put this Information in A NUTSHELL
I wish Thatcher were here to see this!!
Attlee > Thatcher
Ikr
Does this sound like kurzgesagt?
Social Democracy, Public Welfare and Social Justice may live long 🌹
America: social democracy doesn't work!
Europe: bruh...
Absolutely right Jim. It is a Constiutional Republic!
Damn, portugal annexed Galicia, and Spain freed catalonia.
hahahah im portuguese and i had to go back, i hadn't noticed it!
And Basque Country is free too!
Germany seems to have succesfully conquered the lowlands again too
is this the voice from the guy from kurzgezakt (in a nutshell )
This video is an example of why I’m a social democrat
I don’t consider myself an outright socialist-but I support the welfare state. It exists for reasons, and pretty damn good ones. And it strikes me that those who argue the most against it can only do so because they have the luxury of living in the modern day, where the welfare state exists.
Sure, being coerced to give 60% of my salary, 30% of my capital gains, 25% on anything I buy to the state to fund: the social democrat propaganda outlet; public schools where drunkards teach maths, Russians teach Swedish, Marxists teach philosophy and history; “free education” that brings college graduates onto carrying $50,000 debt on average; “free healthcare” that kills patients in waiting and leaves people with mental illness in desperation and helplessness; single moms who have kids with different men smoking next to the strollers; unvaccinated and undocumented male “migrants” to settle down in “little Mogadishu” while making ATM excavating and bomb tossing the new favorite pastimes; big families with a typical structure of one jobless father paired with four stay-at-home mothers and 20 children; law enforcement who would overlook cases of violent crimes; politicians/legislators who gave themselves raise after raise when elderly impoverishment exacerbates by the day; etc.. And all the while I have to work 10 hours a day, live frugally, pay for my own private health insurance, build a nest egg for my children and save for retirement, yet am not be able to donate as much as I would to the charity causes I care about. A paradise as promised, here you go.
@@lilypadkayaker Damn, this version of the dystopian welfare state would make a great book. I can't wait to read it
@@lilypadkayaker I think he is taking about America. 🤣
@@lilypadkayaker Damn you just popped off! The sad truth in America, atm, is how those intelligent enough (on the left) are able to at least "half-accept" a debate 'on why communism is bad.' (ez dub as always) They'll then proceed to always revert to "well I meant I am a "democratic-socialist." All you have to do at that point is ask them the stark difference between a welfare-state and welfare-capitalism. They'll always start stuttering and you'll easily find inconsistencies and a way to dig in. The best you can do for these folks is hope they'll at-least lean into welfare-capitalism which is the less extreme point of view. Unfortunately in america, that's the hopeful 5% of the left. They are completely lost and it's scary as hell. History repeats itself and I don't know anyone can break the cycle.
The welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the social and economic well-being of its citizens.
It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life.
The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization.
The sociologist T. H. Marshall described the modern welfare state as a distinctive combination of democracy, welfare, and capitalism.
Modern welfare states include Germany, France, the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, as well as the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland, which employ a system known as the Nordic model.
Esping-Andersen classified the most developed welfare state systems into three categories; Social Democratic, Conservative, and Liberal.
The welfare state involves a transfer of funds from the state, to the services provided (i.e., healthcare, education, etc.), as well as directly to individuals ("benefits").
It is funded through redistributionist taxation and is often referred to as a type of "mixed economy".
Such taxation usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax.
Proponents argue that this helps reduce the income gap between the rich and poor.
Fucks over middle class and upper class social democracy doesn't benefit the majority
the majority is benefited in social democracy
In America the welfare state perpetuates poverty by incentivizing single parenthood and lower income jobs. People that are afraid to lose their welfare benefits will work less hours and lower paying jobs to remain on said benefits. Many mothers will opt to stay single because welfare acts as a replacement of parent, therefore making single parenthood more prevalent. Just look at the black family which survived through slavery and Jim Crow just to be undermined by the welfare state.
And they have been wrong ever since.
The welfare state have done nothing except ruin the people at the bottom
How do you explain the poverty rate never decline among 60 years of it? And somehow black family structure being ruined, the rate of single parenthood now is 89%, that's much much higher than when they were in slavery, and before the Civil rights movement.
Did black people just get dumber or is it the welfare state that gave them a pass for making dumb choices are at fault?
@@Caligula6969 ruclips.net/video/RIwkZYdSelE/видео.html&ab_channel=ThomasSowellTV
"How the Welfare state ruined black families", short clip with a national treasure of our time Thomas Sowell sharing his knowledge
The issue is that something like security is not a right, and to have it is to give up freedom. I don't know where this idea that security is a right in a democracy came from, but it's quite strange and I've never heard it outside of European circles. Sadly I do not know about the conservative model enough to really argue against it, but it seems strange that it would only benefit a certain type of worker. Economic freedom isn't achieved by taking everyone's income that way and so the social democratic model doesn't really work for that. It's very much a security focused model.
I think sacrificing some freedom is fine as long as it brings more freedom. That is one of the main principles of social democracy.
Where i come From, being Safe ad having a Life in dignity is my right.
Our First amendment even says "human dignity is unviolatable and the goverment needs to Use all Its Power to protect it'
When you Life in poverty, cant afford Healthcare or food or education that human dignity is violated.
Security is a right in Our countries, and being free From harm and fear is also a very valuable freedom.
Its comparable to US Americans being petty of their "right to bear arms" wich we europeans dont really get
freedom is only possible after you have security in your own life.
Does the map of continental Europe divide Catalonia as a separate place to Spain?!
SixReligions Yes. It does. I wonder why.
I just realized that... Haha
Not only they separated Catalonia but also Basque Country, and Galicia was annexed to Portugal!
How about non-renewable resources? Can they be privately owned under social democracy.
Thank you this was very helpful for my life studies project.
i loved third model best one can i move to Scandinavian country please guide
this video gives me some ideas of what Esping Anderson is trying to teach us. Interesting!
I am in the UK which uses the first type of welfare state you mention in this video. The UK system is terrible due to how it treats the unemployed. Society thinks anyone on benefits are scroungers and feels sorry for the taxpayer. There is a huge divide between the employed and unemployed. Also Job Centres here have things called 'sanctions' which stop peoples' benefits anywhere from 3 months to 3 years for any sort of non-compliance. This includes silly things like turning up late for a job-seekers interview (known as 'signing on') even when it's not your fault or not attending an interview due to a medical emergency. It leaves such people hungry and prone to homelessness. I have created a video on my RUclips channel proposing a radical change to the welfare system to make it fair for everyone and to get rid of discrimination.
I love the new English system keep the benefits scroungers on their toes they have had it too good for to long in England
Can you share us the website for more videos about were fare state
This is the type of thing I would watch in my lecture on pols. I should email this to my lecturer.
In Sweden, if a young woman has a kid out of wedlock, welfare will pay. If she does it again, no more money from the government. We should do that in the US. We have a leeching, dependent system in the US.
First of all i dont agree that this is a good Thing. Also i didnt found any source For your Claim about sweden. So could U please Provider one
This system totally won't be abused by bad people, I suppose
checks and balances, look at denmark
Countries that employ it have some of the best transparency rates and lowest corruption levels.
@@fellinuxvi3541 those are the pre requisites for this system, these things don't magically appear after enforcing it. Not to mention, a not so mature society would just end up in corruption and pile of debt.
Hi, Which software you are using for this types of animated videos ?
I believe that he uses any ordinary video editing software.
If you look carefully you can see the shadow from his hand, showing that there's a strong light from the bottom right corner.
When he drags the cartoons, you can see the limits of the paper, showing that he probably has some white papers with drawings.
The problem is you're handing over self-sufficiency for government dependence. If you have a corrupt Government you'll end up with a class of Nobles will dominance over almost every aspect of your life.
A revolution would be easiest in places where the welfare state is the weakest. It the responsibility of the people to destroy and rebuild government when it is necessary.
I know this is 4 years old, but we experience this already under brutal capitalism in the USA. The top 1% of wealthy people here control our lives more than even the government does.
@@SpaceNavy90 America is corporatist tbh. Y'all should march. An affordable health care system is something you guys should fight for atleast....I assume, regardless of political inclination, most people would be on the same boat here.
@@harshjain3122 We do. We just disagree on how that's done. One side believes it requires government intervention and the other believes it would go down naturally if the government was just out completely. The issue with the US is that it's in a very bad middle ground where the government is just enough involved to get all of the downsides and none of the upsides.
@@SpaceNavy90 Well no the Only reason they have that is because they're in control of our government. They actively go in there to make things harder on competitors and easier for themselves
@@wow9279 Is there anything special about the democratic system that makes it different? Or maybe the media system and other ways of communicating within society?
Good documentary
One thing I am confused about in this system, if pay would be equal, what incentive is there to have success, you could do fine in fields with easy jobs, so why be a doctor or a nurse which are pretty stressful jobs, would it be that all the easy jobs are hard to find so you must take a difficult career to get by
Pay isn’t equal under social democracy? Nobody has proposed that everyone should make the same amount.
Ohhh. I think you might be confused. I was too at first. Pay isn't equal. Your social status and social programs are. :)
@@axelnils what about the unemployment benefit? Is it equal? What if everyone stopped working?(Am genuinely asking lmao)
@@harshjain3122 if everyone stopped working there would be no money generating(as with any society), no money=no welfare=no unemployment benefits.
It's pretty simple.
Thank you 🍻
All means based welfare systems should be scrapped and replaced with a Universal Basic Income. The savings on the bureaucracy alone would be substantial, as would the re-diverted payouts into the new system. No-one is left behind, and each person takes full responsibility for their basic needs. Food, shelter, and heat should NOT be considered luxuries in a civilised 21st century society.
For those complaining that people will not work, well, they're not working anyway, but mostly due to not having a place of residence or basic means. A UBI would give them that security and a solid floor to build apon. It's time to stop trying to solve 21st Century problems with 20th Century thinking.
Thanks very much this video has really educated me.
Very informative about social awareness
I wish the music wasn’t there , I love a smooth Rhodes but it’s distracting aha
I like the detailed information
What about Canada?
neoliberal democracy. same with USA
Dude the fucking illuminati has to be running Canada's healthcare system, and this is coming from a conservative in the United States. They don't spend as much as the U.S. on healthcare, yet the stereotype at least is that theirs is best. idk man
canada us more france and germany anda less USA.... they stupid health insurance policy
Canada is a constitutionally of welfare state but it's largely based of the social liberalism model of welfare. But our health care system and pension is very similar to that of Scandinavia's. The third largest federal party here in Canada is the NDP which is social democracy party and is the same party who's MP Tommy Douglas came up with the idea of universal health care in the 1960s. Even though Tommy Douglas was a democratic socialist, he often sided with social democracy for the long run and the benefit of all Canadians. Same with our prime minister in the 1960s Lester B. Pearson. He was a social liberal by political identity but in large was a supporter of social democracy policies.
Has the person who made this video ever been to Sweden and taken a look at what the welfare system looks like in reality? If you’re on welfare you certainly do no have the right to participate in much as the payments are too low and not in line with inflation. This is most obvious when you look at payments to refugees who are waiting for their application to be considered. They get less than 100 SEK a day or 2000 SEK a month which doesn’t even cover rent and hasn’t been increased since 1992. Most people on unemployment benefit are lucky to receive 80% of their previous earnings and if you don’t have enough money from that to live on well too bad.
Have you compared These swedes With very poor people without a welfare system? The system itself might have Its way to Go still, but Its also better than without
"It wasn’t necessarily a welfare state, it was a police state" - Serpentti Suokannel
what about nz?
Is it Kurzgesagt ?
Most people don't take advantage of generosity in times of need but more can be done on the govts part to protect from criminal activity within those programs. Food, water, shelter and medical care are life necessities and should be ensured for all needy citizens. Also, food doesn't mean a 5 star restaurant, water doesn't mean wine, shelter doesn't mean a 5 bedroom house, and medical care isn't a sex change operation.
Keep working Mem...You have to, to pay for it all!
thank you for all clear explanations
I spy with my little eye an oversimplification
You know, it's 4 minutes long, what did you expect?
@@MichaRoden how many years of trying to explain this do you need?
How do you know the best social services are provided in return when you have no competition?
No competition? :D In Germany, there are 110 health insurance companies to choose from :D Believe me, there is competition.
What you think of, is, still, Russia, or Communism.
Thats the achievement of american brainwashing
because its an investment in the people, you if the state does not o its job well its undermining itself
How do you keep people motivated to continue working when there is less incentive to do so?
What?
People are not lazy. its a misconception created by rich. Because they benifit the most from it. If people don't rely on jobs to live then they can negotiate better salaries. It's not like people don't wanna work they just don't wanna work a shitty job for $8 an hour.
When people only Work because they starve without, Its a shitty system to Begin With.
People want to Work. Also welfare only protects From poverty. You cant really have luxuries, vacation, or Something you could Pass on to your kids
@@georgekingiv8171 You would be suprised how lazy some people are. If you are incentivised (indirectly) to do nothing and get support financially then many will do so.
Atleast here in Finland.
Well, some people work because they love what they're doing. Teaching, giving social services for kids, old people, and so on, doing arts, sports, etc. I think that's the ideal condition when people can do what they love without the fear of not earning enough money to buy food, to access healthcare and education, and so on.
Very good
For everyone working a 9-5: living off government welfare is equally painful (talking from experience)
wow beautiful!!
Except the united states is not a social democracy it's a constitutional republic.
Very educative
interesting
It’s the voice from Kurzgesagt
It’s a little early to say that the third one is the best model of society, there are plenty of down points in your personal freedom when having a government that big with high taxation
@Kristian Yes you also get a lot of no hopers living of the people who work hard how is that a just system????
very informative
Down with Agenda 2030.
Very educated and informing
Steve's voice ...
Hey, it's the same voice actor from Kurzgesagt
The welfare state is the absolute best feature of man kind!
Escorpion Venenoso
The welfare state sure as hell beats laissez-faire capitalism.
Indeed! :D
Dovenpeis Laissez-faire capitalism is the only ethical economic system. If the welfare system is voluntary, great. I have no issue with it. HOWEVER if it's mandated...Welfare, in general, promotes stagnation. It is a beacon for corruption and abuse. It requires theft. It rewards people who do not contribute to the system and punishes those who do. It is a system of involuntary slavery.
What happens if I say no to contributing to the system?
Below is a link to a debate which compares the ethics of capitalism and the ethics of socialism. I highly recommend watching it. It is very long though.
ruclips.net/video/aGo2G1Sjb6M/видео.html
A mandated welfare system is unethical.
Ethan
You are wrong on so many levels.
Let us start with your first assertion, that Laissez-faire capitalism is the only ethical economic system. How do you explain that? Exactly why and how is laissez-faire capitalism the only ethical economic system?
Your second assertion is that government welfare promotes stagnation. The problem with that assertion is that the very successful Scandinavian welfare states thoroughly debunks that assertion. You know, empiricism and all.
So what if you say no to contributing to the welfare state system? Should I care when I coerce you into accepting it, just like you do not give a shit when you want to, and in fact do, coerce me into accepting private property rights?
I say that mandated private property rights are unethical without a welfare state to correct at least some of its social unfairness.
1) It's ethical because it does not require the direct violation of anyone's rights. All other economic systems do. Unfairness is not a justification for violation of rights. That's childish.
2) Citation for Scandinavian welfare, please?
Those countries operate at relatively small scales. They have had close to zero population flux, it's a homogeneous and small population. It's impractical and unjustified to assume that whatever success you can observe in those countries would scale effectively.
Private property is an objective truth, not a mandated edict. It is protected by government, not instituted by the government.
Others do not have claims to value you have created. You have no claim to value that others have created. You alone are the owner for the products of your time and efforts. By what means would someone else make a claim to your time and effort? Only by voluntary interactions. Trade, barter, charity, goodwill, lend/loan, etc...
Imagine we both live in a dessert. I have made a well as a source of water for myself and my needs. Are you entitled to my well? Do you need my permission to use it?
It is a good idea
i really didn't get why model 2 is only good for men, it's not explained
It's not true though
As long as you tax the rich and not the poor
Daniel Nunez Yeah! That's the crucial point...
Daniel Nunez Social Democracies can't tax? How does it keep itself economically propped up?
u mean tax those who invest in the economy ?
Yep, that is the greatest feature of this system. Social democracy is working to regulate the rich in favor of the majority of the population. This system serves the whole society, and not the few.
Therefore many capitalists in the United States are spreading that socialism is dangerous, when its in fact only dangerous for them and their privileges.
Samuel John When i talk about 'Rich privileges', i talk about big cooperation which is influencing the government with their money to respond and serve them and not the majority of the population. You can only look at the United States were the rich is regulating themsels, and not the goverment.
but i agree with you when it comes you should get what you have earned. But regulation is needed in order for the goverment to control the cooperation and privat intrests so it is not going out of controll.
I recommend to read more about corporate fascism and how it is influencing politics which is supposed to be off the people, and not the few.
and then, along came the lucrative scam work programs under banners of 'so called charity', then the likes of atos, maximus scams, the list goes on, lucrative from the poor and sick, or be sanctioned... regards, tom, crystasl palace...
Interesting
Best dam idea
Too bad it leaves out QUALITY of these rations will never suffice every person.
uhhhm, hello from denmark, lol
@@magnusorn7313 yeah sure, nobody is hungry in Denmark, you don't wait 2 weeks for a doctor appointment, the educations system isn't about to fail miserably because of scarcity, and the elders aren't going to sleep in shit stained underwear. Denmark is definitely NOT one of the worst places to live, but as of all liberal nations, compromises are always made in favor of the rich, for example by threatening of replacing danish factory workers and outsourcing work, if their self serving criteria (tax reduction) aren't met.
The social policies aren't the problem here, the power dynamic is.
I think it comes from a victim mentality when people want equity of outcome. There needs to be some sort of reason to distinguish yourself from your peer, I personally would have no incentive to get up on the morning of I didn’t have to put food on the table…😊
What would happen if all rich people got on welfare of some type?
Or depends If they are rich than they probably Font have the right to welfare.
And even If, If the taxes of those rich people are high enough, they would pay way more than welfare could give Them Back
Stop spreading the myth of high taxes. The US working class pays more "taxes" if you count what they self-pay for insurance, healthcare, childcare, retirement, etc
Yeah, usually that is what happens when social services are privitized.
Wrong liar... you aren't mentioning the very high purchase taxes in Denmark, Australia, switzland.. we aren't rich we equally poor working class of renters
Yeah and in countries Like Germany people pay taxes and still get all or even more benefits. So in the end they pay less.
This is in the U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8, but these same people violate U.S. laws, and avoid their oath of office and make up laws, similar to the politicians at home who use U.S. laws instead of administering the laws of that COUNTRY (Hawaiian Kingdom).
Without any shadow of a doubt that could be translated as a "War Crime" if and when you get your facts straight. So do your research or be a war criminal?
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
kurzgesagt?
it must be
thats the kurtgezat guy
Its good
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Social democracy...otherwise spelled taxpayer funded programs as opposed to equal opportunity to be self reliant. JFK would be proud...ask not what ur country can do for u , but what you can do for ur country . The Constitution says provide for the GENERAL welfare...not the SPECIFIC welfare .
KURZGESAGT GUY?!?!?!?! what are you doing here
But what happens when I don't want to support the welfare state?
Suppose I see abuse or corruption or general ineffectiveness or unintended consequences. Can I say no to contributing?
Can you not pay taxes in modern society? No. Thats the price you pay for being allowed access to the same services as the rest of us.
*IF* you had a problem, raise awareness of it with other voters to address the issue.
Or if you aren't interested in doing that and only want to keep what little money you feel taxes are taking from you, you could always move somewhere else.
Sorry in this day and age the welfare state has became synonym for big government. So please just forget about it.
No i rather have Big goverment than Big companys
dissatisfied
We have high taxation and people dying on hospital waiting lists and living in cars the worst of both worlds
What country exactly are you talking about?
I live in a social democratic country and er are very fine
Social democracy🌹🌹🌹
the problem of socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money
So good that this isnt socialism but social democracy.. Did you mute your speakers or what happend to you? :D
Which didn't happen in the last 150 years.
@@i-am-your-conscience Well... define socialism.
@@johnbeard7252 denmark is NOT socialist, the means of production is private and we have a market economy
@@johnbeard7252 they can't Socialism isn't welfare
Ah yes, US Democrats' favourite ideology 🤣
Kurzgesagt narraror - just sayin
Vid not biased at all. Nope, nuh-uh. "The system I believe in is the perfect one. Utopia. All others are defective." Wake up. There is no perfect system. Would love to see an economist's critique of this.
hop on Wikipedia and see the criticism of social democracy
No has called it perfect
@@ihazplawe2503 Mostly cringe "criticism"
Of course it’s biased. It’s just stating a point of view.
IT DOES NOT WORK IN REAL LIFE
Michael Kovac Go look at the nordic countries
02:54 "...the welfare state is just like a house; it is never finished." And that just about sums up the problem right there. "If you give a mouse a cookie..."
Welfare recipients will want more and more, taxes will get higher and higher, and eventually rugged individualism and work ethic are disincentivized.
Social d̶e̶m̶o̶c̶r̶a̶c̶y̶ ISM in a nutshell.
have you been to scandinavia?
i get that you think you are being smart, but the real world simply disagrees with your statement
We need a welfare state, work is slavery and a waste of time.
talk about unrealistic
however, it is partly correct, the truth is it all depends on capital market, which is mostly ruined by private sectors. As socialdemokrats in Sweden are mostly occupying government jobs and that is the reason they always support red. Their job, salary, insurance, leave, family welfare have a robust safeguard by the law. Where as common people nothing is guaranteed. it may or may not. It all depends on your handlagare which is an socialdemokrats agent. If hen thinks hen will, then you may. For instance and best example for a so called robust social country like Sweden. Many Swedish people are out of jobs, homes, resources, at the same time Govt is taking refugees from all over, and providing them with all their requirements. Same time Swedish politicians is asking refugees to find a job at earliest, and those same politicians are giving interviews in tv and media, saying that it takes seven (7) years for a immigrants to come to a job market. What an double standard socialdemokrats ideology. This what is happening all over EU.
I don’t want to pay for you bad choices. Get your hand out my wallet.
As Long as you are in a society you will Always Use Something someoen Else paid For, and you will pay For Others.
Paying For the Bad choices of Others, and Others paying For your Bad choices is exactly why er have societys.
As a single guy I have no interest in funding family's college and university tuition.
But that is how a society works. everyone gives so everyone can Profit.
Who do you think is paying the Police that you call? The roads you Drive? I Bet Not only you.
@@sophiebell4758 Yet, I do not profit from college or university, but would the police for criminal situations.
@@portman8909 so you are collectivist, because funding police is statist in nature.
taxation is theft though
No. With bigger taxes you got stronger Republic. That means that with tax money republic provides health care for all class of people, stronger military and security for people, free education and good quality public organization, such as better roads, better public places like parks, hospitals, etc.
To a point
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah that's why best doctors and hospitals are in America. The best cancer care is in America. All the best medical research and development for drugs and technology is America's, and the Scandinavian states just feed off American innovation and military security because they don't have one.
you have the best doctors, but you average quality of doctors is sub par
you have the best hospitals, but your average quality of hospitals is sub par
you have the best cancer treatments, but your average quality cancer treatments are sub par
so on and so on, you are a sub par nation that plays host to rich parasites, you are proud oh having the best of the best, but those are only there to serve your overlords, not you
The best doctors, but not everyone can afford them. I would rather have average doctors and hospitals that everyone has access to than the best doctors that many people will never be treated by
Yeah but i dont have to get into crushing debt just because i went to the hospital
Capitalism is king
social democracy gang! bernie2020
capitalism for the people!
THESE VIDIOS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A 3 CARD MONTY SUFFLE,, ARE YOU KIDDING,,
I'VE WACTH A FEW OF YOUR VIDIOS AND THERE NOT DEALING WITH REALITY
kurzgesagt?