Old Turkic is a collection of several closely related Turkic branches divided into stages dating back to over 1400 years ago. Hope you enjoy the video! Share it with anyone who speaks a modern Turkic language to see how much of it they can understand. Please follow and contact us on Instagram if you have any suggestions for future videos: instagram.com/BahadorAlast
There are official 41 türkish dialects lile azerbaycan jakutistan kyrygzistan kazakhistan etc. If you know all together then you know old türkish language and can read from egyptian hierogylphs to american maya or scandinavian or etruscan italy etc. All same origin türkish.
@@collectivelove2275 who said thaz i know the 41türkish dialects, cause i dont. You can watch youtube= kazim mirsan docu. It goes 40min in english too. That guy knew türkish.
Kazakh language much more close to Old Turkic. In addition, Turkey had important revolution on the official language. Dozens of ancient Turkic word added in to Turkish language to create new and "pure" Turkish language.
Both Bilge and Atash are linguists. They’ve read Old Turkic in college. That’s why they’re cracking it quickly. Average Turk will get 0% of the Old Turkic.
@@TarlanT i don't know where you are from but as a turkish guy, i didn't have an old turkic course at school or i am not a linguists. but i clearly understand %80 of old turkic from the written form. i didn't have a chance only to listen because after reading the text that wouldn't make sense.
Im Turk from İstanbul, my brother names Batuhan, Dilek, Bahadır my father Erdinç, grandfather Atilla, my sons, Ertugrul Erdinç, Türkçe isimler bile güzel Tüm Türk karındaşlarıma selamlar, Tengri Biz Menen.
@@ugurbocugunungunlugu638 yes off course I have right turk are in Kirghizistan Ouzbékistan and khazakstan ouïgours juste Azeris and turkiye are not turk but indo-européenne people
I'm from iranian azerbaijan and I understood most of the old turkic part, like the guests which is not surprising since Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen are closely related. I've started to learn Turkish lately and although our languages are deeply connected There are certain structural and vocabulary differences and I takes time and practice to speak fluently. What I lack is a Turkish native speaker to talk with. If any native Turkish guy is interested in knowing more about Azerbaijan and Iran or wants me to help him in learning Azerbaijani or Persian or even ottoman Turkish I'd be more than glad to talk to him/her and share my knowledge. I leave this comment here because I seek someone who is preferably interested in linguistics, culture and history as I am.
Hi! I'm Azerbaijani from Russia (Udmurtia (uralic language) to be clear ahah). I'm learning Turkish too and.. reading some Ottoman Turkish. I'd like to have a talk with you))
Finally clever people. I was tired of ignorant people. Because of they weren't read books they weren't know any words. But these people are smart. I liked these team. 🇹🇷
Bilge and Ataş did a phenomenal job - really well done! It was quite difficult to identify any words and understand any context, even as a Turkish speaking viewer (who kept pausing and reading). 😂 I liked how Güneş bey presented the sentences in a timeline, in a very educational manner. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Looking forward to more content about Proto Turkic! Thank you Bahador!! 😁
@@TheLightlessMoon Ataşı seviyorum kanalını uzun zamandır takip ediyorum ama gereksiz gerginlik oldu. Kendi Türkiyede yaşıyor zaten. Iyi biliyo bizim dilde tek bi Türk geçer ingilizcedeki gibi Turkic ve Turkish diye ayrılmaz. Bu kadar takılması hem tatlı hem üzdü yani. Ne fark eder ki. Kimsenin kötü bi niyeti yok.
@@TheLightlessMoon Çok yanlış yapıyor. Tamamen bölücü kafa. Hiç kimse kusura bakmasın. Türk de geç. Yorumlarda da ayrıca yazdım zaten. Polonyalı Slav mı Slavic mi? O Slav ise Hırvat Slav mı Slavic mi? Kimin Slav veya Slavic olduğuna kim karar veriyor? Kimin Turkish kimin Turkic olduğuna kim karar veriyor? İçi boş, bölücü kafa, laf cambazlığından başka bişey değil.
This channel brings so much more value than the average youtube channel. It's like you are being paid by your government for bringing people of all cultures together in order to remember people that the art of language is something that needs to be saved at all costs
Indeed, this is not really a fair comparison as both the Turkmen and the Turkish guy have and are studying Turkic linguistics. Your average person hasn't studied anything close to this.
True. I follow his channel and I know that he speaks Turkish, Turkmen, Uzbek and can understand Kipchak languages as well. He has also studied linguistics. So he has lots of knowledge about Turkic languages.
@@MessiMerdo That makes it an unfair comparison, albeit unintentional. Atas already has a rich Turkic mental database to draw upon, on top of being a linguist who specializes in Turkic languages. Imagine a person who is athletic and in top condition, who practices surfing, snowboarding and skateboarding on a regular basis. Then attempts something called sandboarding. He already has the knowledge and principles on what has to be done, then the established transferable physical skills to excel in the new endeavor. It won't be much competition compared to others who have never done a board sport in their life.
@@alanguages Not like that. Any Turkic person can learn the other Turkic language on 3-4 weeks.(Except Chuvash, Yakutsk, Dukha and Altay. But Karluk, Kıpchak and Oghuz is similar) They can't speak well but understand very well. It is not so complicated as you said.
He translated "kasıncığımın öyü" as "the thought of my fiance". As far as i know the word "öğ" means "knowledge, cognizance etc" in old turkic. I guess the word "öy" in the the uighur stage text, is the root of the modern turkish words like öğret, öğrenci, öğretmen etc.
Ö-mek mean thinking ö-y-ü ömek plus adverb ü so this adverb giving the meaning like when ever I think about her . Öğretmen öğrenci related with ömek it s true
I admire a lot spoken Turkmen. Native people usually speak fast, and they have this both very unique and usual phonology, I guess it's due to the fact that they are affected by Turkic languages other than Oghuz, Iranic and a little Arabic.
Everything looks familiar but I'm having a hard time putting it together in a meaningful way. It sounds like Türkmen. 1400 years ago, if I spoke to a Hun Turk, he would be very confused. I saw a similar version of this in East Turkestan in the confused looks between Turks and Uyghurs.
Old Turkic (Göktürkçe and Old Uyghur) is a member of Siberian Turkic group and not an ancestor of Oghuzs. These languages are just cognates. That's why we can't understand that well. A Siberian can understand it better.
thanks to you all, I enjoyed this video very much, interesting to see the old form of Turkic language is still living original words and terms scattered among various groups, some how we can relate to, though with some difficulties... probably Qara Hanid Turkic should be revived and made the common Turkic for us all
This was very interesting. I wonder if you could find someone who speaks Aramaic from and older era, say 2000 years ago and see how the Assyrian Aramaic speakers can understand it
what i know that until today there are people who speak ancient Aramaic ❤ in Syria in the villages of Maaloula, Jab`adin and Al-Bukh3a in the Qalamoun Mountains on the outskirts of Damascus ❤
@@sevketcoskun2922 There is no differences in Turkish Turkic/Turkish = Türkçe This has come from English and Russian there is no differenses between them in Turkish
Üze = üste . Kök Tengri =gök tanrı yağız yir = Yağız Yer Kılındukta = kılınınca Ikin = ikisinin Ara = arasında Kişi oğlu = o kişi or insan Kılınmış = yaratılmış
GOK TENGRI The word "Gök" in the expression "Gök Tengri", which we used in our old belief, is not a word used to describe one of God’s place of dominion, reign or sovereignty. As you know, in every language, sometimes many words can be used for one meaning, and sometimes one word can have many meanings. Even, none of these meanings may have anything to do with each other. Then we can understand what a word means by the intent in the sentence. So can the "Gök". The meanings of "Gök" in Turkish, 1-is “sky”. However it does not just only mean sky. Beside that it also means 2-“blue" 3-“green" 4-“playing blue or green, in the compound of "göketmek/göğetmek" 5-“to sprout" as in the compound "gökermek/göğermek", 6-“great, lofty, high, tremendously great” 7-“sacred" My ancestors called the lake "Baikal" in Northeast Central Asia as "Gökgöl". Because it was the largest of a series of lakes located in the northeast of Baikal, which has been partially lost, they called Lake Baikal "Gökgöl", meaning "The Greatest/Great Lake" of all. They may also attributed a sanctity because of its benefits. As another example, I can give the name "Gökdeniz". Saying "Gökgöl" in Turkish does not mean "lake in the sky" or "Gökdeniz" does not mean “sea in the sky". They mean “Great Lake” and “Ocean” respectively. Just like those, the first State bearing the national name of the Turkish Nation was the "Göktürk State" of 8th century . The meaning in this name is not directly related to the physical Sky. It doesn’t mean "Turks in the Sky", "Turks from the Sky" or "Turks Who Own the Sky". From the inscriptions and legends it is already known that the word "Gök" here is "Great" and "Holy". Gök Tengri means “Great God (Yuluğ Tengri/Ulu Tengri)”. It does not mean "God of Sky" or "God in the Sky".
As a Turkish person from Turkish republic; I can understand % 90 dialects that made by any Turk/Turkish speaking court, if it is written in Latin Alphabet. For example; lets sat there are 200 Thousand words in Turkey's Turkish and 200 Thousand words in Kazakhstan Turk/Turkic language. We the Turkish Turks use different word for different meaning but what ever word Kazaks uses iy also exists in our language and you can use that word to describe same thing or vice versa.
Great people !! I have a little conern, though... I think every single word should have been analysed, some words weren't touched on. I guess it's because this was the first video of a new serials of such videos which I d follow faithfully all the time.
selam olsun oğuz kaan ın beylerine onların,boylarına. dilde birlik, dinde birlik. bir olalım ,yar olalım. kırılmayalım. muhtaç olduğumuz kudret,damarlarımızdaki asil kan, göğsümüzdeki imanda dır
I asked to my friend,Who is kökturk close? Volga tatarian... 😂 She said: Its understand all Turkish or, Başkurdıstan turkic too. She is a historian, teacher. She understood already.
@Qd player The old turkic language combination of few dialogues For me personally its hard to understand all Because I grow up in a Persian speaking comunity Sadly turkic language is not my first language . But my blood is turkic blood Respect 🙌
The guy in left doesn't know the true meaning of first sentence. He thinks kök tengri is "sky god" because todays turkish gök/kök means "sky" and tengri/tanrı means "god" but in old turkic kök means "blue" and tengri means both sky and god. So the correct translation of first sentence is "Blue sky on the top, and the brown land in the bottom created, humanity created between them."
I was strangely surprised. I understood most of the Göktürk sentences. I wasn't expecting this much. I think I might have understood more easily what is written in the inscription, since I have heard the Turkish dialect many times in many places. (Bu arada ben Türkiye'denim 😊)
Very interesting. Like using old english or proto germanic between Danes and English. I was surprised to understand many old Turkic words, as i know some Turkish, and from listening to easter Turkic music across Asia, from Turkey to Uighur ( may God help those people!). Ben =men, at =jorga at times, giz is kiz bolsun is olsun and so on. Also, Istanbul Turkish has dropped first letters at times, and meanings drift over time and space. So each participant got Gok Turk better than each others daughter language. These are wonderful videos and help to forge family bonds across miles and time. I feel close to Turkic peoples. I could have written this in Osmanli but would take too long. Allaha ismarladik. Karl / Kadri
Hi Bahador. Is there any chance that you can bring a Chuvash speaker to your program and compare the language to another Turkic languages? Thanks in advance.
My ancestors are somewhere from the Caucasus and east of the Urals, more recently Azerbaijan and my grandma speaks a very rare dialect that I suspect is spoken between Kumak and Urmia but is also intelligible in Iran still can't figure out what dialect it is of Turkic I'm of mixed Turko-Persian and Caucus ancestry!
@@elidrissii yes it is. Turkish take the action (foreign) noun and add to it "etmek"(or eylemek/kılmak in some rare cases) to form the verb. Examples Affetmek(arabic عفو ) Devat etmek ( arabic دعوة) Motivasyon etmek (french motivation)
18:52 Balık taştın, balık means city. If you think balık you cannot say balık you have to say like baalık, which means bağlık, like bonded place. In turkish, burası beni bağlıyor, here is bonding me. So balık so baalık means bonding place.
9:47 İn Turkish language there is no difference between Turkic and Turkish. We use Turkish (which is mean Türk in Turkish) for the "Turkic" verb in English that's why he said Turkish. No need to be offended
Also some people use “turki” instead of turk but the i comes from Persian and means actually Turkish. So Persian turki means Turkish. As you said in Turkic languages there were no word like Turkic, Originally it was just “Turk languages”(Türk dilleri)
We speak (Turkish in Turkiye) a Turkic language which is very close to Old-Turkic. That's why we can understand the Siberian Turkic easily. Because not all of the Anatolian Turks have came from the Central Asia, many have came from the north (Ural-Siberia).
Btw i was able to communicate in Azerbaican in Iran fairly well to my surprise. I try to learn more Turkish. But what i learned is an older variety that confuses Turkish youth today: beynelmilel, zira, muhabere, and " yuz numara" are not common today for example. And pronou ciation must be correct. I learned this when asking a shared taxi ( dolmush) driver if he was a dolmuz. Or telling a girl she was a cok guzel kuz. But that was long ago when i was young and none on your videos were born (1965). I later volunteered to live and travel all over Turkeye . Advising government on radio systems. Love that land, people and wonderful food! Karl / Kadri
As Bilge said the oldest form of turkic is much familiar which is really strange. Normally newer forms should be closer to us like old/middle/modern english.. Maybe thats the result of the language reforms of the early republic that tried to form strong ties with the gokturk form.
Our grandmothers still call fire od in Anatolia. We have swear words from hundreds of old Turkish languages. We still use them. But I won't write about them here now.
As a Turkish speakin persong I summarize: Old Turkic (Göktürk) = Directly related to modern day Oghuz subgroup of Turkic languages 85% intelligible Old Uyghur = Has nothnig common with contemporary Uyghur lang. but forefather of modern Western YUGUR lang.-people. So it's almost impossible to understand just some words are recognizable
Especially when you try to understand proto-Turkish-Turkic. 😀even if you are a native Turkish speaker you have to have a large Turkish/Turkic vocabulary in order to follow :)
Bu sözü nogai tatarı olarak söylüyorum turk=turkic=turkmen=turkish hepsi türk ayrı gayrı değil türk türktür!!! Bu yabancılar nedense ayrı gayrı sanıyor bazıları tabi
I skipped the introduction part and was listening to them thinking Güneş is Turkmen and Ataş is Turkish, Im sure you can tell why. Lol. Just found out Turkmens dont look as Central Asian as the rest of the Central Asian Turks😂
Please bring more Turkic languages with people who have more culture. Please let them speak only Turkish and try to get along. do not use any other language
I'm Iranian Azeri and i Love persian more than Azerbaijani Türkish . I know Both but i like persian more . Don't be so hard on Languages , bro . Language is used for communication . It doesn't matter if People understand What Language . The common language that People understand is The Most proper language and it doesn't matter if it's اوُیغوُرجا or Mandarin ..
@@burzumimmortal5667 I'm sure you're just Farsi or consumer of Persian propaganda . Otherwise , you wouldn't prefer other language over your native language .
Old Turkic is a collection of several closely related Turkic branches divided into stages dating back to over 1400 years ago. Hope you enjoy the video! Share it with anyone who speaks a modern Turkic language to see how much of it they can understand.
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@@human7491 Many old languages are alive today
Great one Bahadır
There are official 41 türkish dialects lile azerbaycan jakutistan kyrygzistan kazakhistan etc. If you know all together then you know old türkish language and can read from egyptian hierogylphs to american maya or scandinavian or etruscan italy etc. All same origin türkish.
@ So then you'd understand Igbo?
@@collectivelove2275 who said thaz i know the 41türkish dialects, cause i dont. You can watch youtube= kazim mirsan docu. It goes 40min in english too. That guy knew türkish.
three people with glasses means we will watch something highly intellectual.
Is that so? Perhaps I will start wearing glasses
Yeah!!
And, actually, it was...
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They will be intellectual like Jordan Peterson. LOL 😂
Always fun to see similarities between Turkic languages new and old! Happy to see Ataş back for another episode. 🇹🇷🇹🇲
Turkic nations: *Understanding Old Turkic better than each others' modern language*
Kazakh language much more close to Old Turkic. In addition, Turkey had important revolution on the official language. Dozens of ancient Turkic word added in to Turkish language to create new and "pure" Turkish language.
@@SagucuTegin I meant Turkic nations. Let me edit it.
because thats proto
@@SagucuTegin true, Anatolian Turkish was more like Azeri Turkic before.
@@IranAzadLoading no. Azerbaijan is much more broken.
I’m a baskort turk, hepsi turk halkin ben seviyorum🇹🇷🇷🇺
Türkiye'den selam kardeşim ☺️
Biz de sizi seviyoruz kardeşim. 😘💕
Selam gardaş
Selamlar dostum :)
Urıs bayrağı qullanma, qutaqbaş bulma, üzallılıq teläybez! Azatlıq başqortostan!!
Old Turkic and Old Uyghur were spoken more than thousand years ago, but Turkic people can still somehow understand that. Amazing
i think old turkic more close to uyghur
Both Bilge and Atash are linguists.
They’ve read Old Turkic in college.
That’s why they’re cracking it quickly.
Average Turk will get 0% of the Old Turkic.
@TarlanT i think i can understand old turkic more than kazakh
Cause they r nomads .
@@TarlanT i don't know where you are from but as a turkish guy, i didn't have an old turkic course at school or i am not a linguists. but i clearly understand %80 of old turkic from the written form. i didn't have a chance only to listen because after reading the text that wouldn't make sense.
I am Uyghur and the first old Turkic sentence literally sounds like the combination of Anatolian, Kazakh and Uyghur combined to me.
Free Uyghur ❤️
Free East Turkistan ❤️
We love Uyghur Turks from Türkiye 🇹🇷
💙🤍
yeah maybe that is why i understand old turkic text more than uyghur text. (i am turkish)
@@Ash_tommo Free Kurdistan 👏🏻
TENGRI BLESS ALL THE TURKIC PEOPLE!
@Andalusian_God does not exist.
The etymology of Turkic languages is fascinating.
Im Turk from İstanbul, my brother names Batuhan, Dilek, Bahadır my father Erdinç, grandfather Atilla, my sons, Ertugrul Erdinç, Türkçe isimler bile güzel Tüm Türk karındaşlarıma selamlar, Tengri Biz Menen.
Such an interesting video. I’m a turk from Tabriz and I really enjoy the videos about turkic languages. Yaşasın🤞🏻❤️
You are azeris you’re ancestry are kurd
@@milstween7998 .What kind of egoism is this and what kind of ignorance is it to say to someone who says I am a Turk, what kind of ignorance.
@@ugurbocugunungunlugu638 yes off course I have right turk are in Kirghizistan Ouzbékistan and khazakstan ouïgours juste Azeris and turkiye are not turk but indo-européenne people
@@milstween7998 lmao 😂😂😂
@@bulutbulut754 BRUH MOMENTO
Love and respect for all my Turkic brothers
Greetings from Yemen 🇾🇪
Love you too buddy ❤
Love you and Yemen too
Are you arab
I don't see the point. Why are we brothers? Aren't Yemen people Semitic?
Selam turkiyeden ,yemen i seviyoruz,sizlerde bizim din kardesimiz olan barışçıl bir halksiniz,love too
I'm from iranian azerbaijan and I understood most of the old turkic part, like the guests which is not surprising since Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen are closely related.
I've started to learn Turkish lately and although our languages are deeply connected There are certain structural and vocabulary differences and I takes time and practice to speak fluently. What I lack is a Turkish native speaker to talk with.
If any native Turkish guy is interested in knowing more about Azerbaijan and Iran or wants me to help him in learning Azerbaijani or Persian or even ottoman Turkish I'd be more than glad to talk to him/her and share my knowledge. I leave this comment here because I seek someone who is preferably interested in linguistics, culture and history as I am.
Hi! I'm Azerbaijani from Russia (Udmurtia (uralic language) to be clear ahah). I'm learning Turkish too and.. reading some Ottoman Turkish. I'd like to have a talk with you))
Çok rahat öğrenirsin sadexe kelime bilmen lazım
Hi, can we share some knowledge please? I’m working on a workshop now throughout Europe and i can use a little help if you don’t mind
Türkiye, Azerbaycan and Türkmenistan are all oğuz Turks.
It's like a mix between Oghuz, Kipçak and Siberian Turkic😅
Yes its already so
@almıla gök yes
Yes, u re so right
That's literally what a parent language is lol
Bohadir thank you again for inviting as I see it has already some attention. C u next time 🤙🏻
Very welcome! Thank you :)
Finally clever people. I was tired of ignorant people. Because of they weren't read books they weren't know any words.
But these people are smart. I liked these team. 🇹🇷
Bilge and Ataş did a phenomenal job - really well done! It was quite difficult to identify any words and understand any context, even as a Turkish speaking viewer (who kept pausing and reading). 😂 I liked how Güneş bey presented the sentences in a timeline, in a very educational manner. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Looking forward to more content about Proto Turkic! Thank you Bahador!! 😁
Bahador thank you for the invite once again, it was really fun 😀👍🏻
Atash Turkish diyince Turkic diye atılman... asjaksjaksj
@@5ahmet Güneş bir kez daha yanlışlıkla Turkish diyince Ataş'ın içinden küfür eder gibi bir yüz ifadesi var :D
@@TheLightlessMoon Ataşı seviyorum kanalını uzun zamandır takip ediyorum ama gereksiz gerginlik oldu. Kendi Türkiyede yaşıyor zaten. Iyi biliyo bizim dilde tek bi Türk geçer ingilizcedeki gibi Turkic ve Turkish diye ayrılmaz. Bu kadar takılması hem tatlı hem üzdü yani. Ne fark eder ki. Kimsenin kötü bi niyeti yok.
@@5ahmet Terimlerin yerli yerine oturması için ekstra çaba harcıyor. Türk dilleri için emek veren güzel bir arkadaş. Bence doğru yapıyor.
@@TheLightlessMoon Çok yanlış yapıyor. Tamamen bölücü kafa. Hiç kimse kusura bakmasın. Türk de geç. Yorumlarda da ayrıca yazdım zaten. Polonyalı Slav mı Slavic mi? O Slav ise Hırvat Slav mı Slavic mi? Kimin Slav veya Slavic olduğuna kim karar veriyor?
Kimin Turkish kimin Turkic olduğuna kim karar veriyor? İçi boş, bölücü kafa, laf cambazlığından başka bişey değil.
It is amazing to know and understand the language existed milenium ago
Salam Ulus Hazara 🟦🟨⬜️ türkum 🟥( Azeragi)
ate turk. 🟩
you're doing a very noble and honorable job here, Bahador. Thank you so much.
This channel brings so much more value than the average youtube channel. It's like you are being paid by your government for bringing people of all cultures together in order to remember people that the art of language is something that needs to be saved at all costs
I'm guessing this is not going to be difficult for Atas, considering how many tukric languages he is familiar with
Indeed, this is not really a fair comparison as both the Turkmen and the Turkish guy have and are studying Turkic linguistics. Your average person hasn't studied anything close to this.
True. I follow his channel and I know that he speaks Turkish, Turkmen, Uzbek and can understand Kipchak languages as well. He has also studied linguistics. So he has lots of knowledge about Turkic languages.
@@MessiMerdo That makes it an unfair comparison, albeit unintentional.
Atas already has a rich Turkic mental database to draw upon, on top of being a linguist who specializes in Turkic languages.
Imagine a person who is athletic and in top condition, who practices surfing, snowboarding and skateboarding on a regular basis. Then attempts something called sandboarding.
He already has the knowledge and principles on what has to be done, then the established transferable physical skills to excel in the new endeavor. It won't be much competition compared to others who have never done a board sport in their life.
@@alanguages Not like that. Any Turkic person can learn the other Turkic language on 3-4 weeks.(Except Chuvash, Yakutsk, Dukha and Altay. But Karluk, Kıpchak and Oghuz is similar) They can't speak well but understand very well. It is not so complicated as you said.
This channel is just getting better and better!
He translated "kasıncığımın öyü" as "the thought of my fiance". As far as i know the word "öğ" means "knowledge, cognizance etc" in old turkic. I guess the word "öy" in the the uighur stage text, is the root of the modern turkish words like öğret, öğrenci, öğretmen etc.
Also, pretty close to this word, ög means mother in old Turkic. The word öksüz (orphan whose mother died) comes from ög-süz.
Ö-mek mean thinking ö-y-ü ömek plus adverb ü so this adverb giving the meaning like when ever I think about her . Öğretmen öğrenci related with ömek it s true
@@m.juliano thank you. so ögeday is also derived from the same root :-)
I admire a lot spoken Turkmen. Native people usually speak fast, and they have this both very unique and usual phonology, I guess it's due to the fact that they are affected by Turkic languages other than Oghuz, Iranic and a little Arabic.
and i love armenian! yes hayereny shat sirem. it is a unique language
thank you for such a great video. you are doing amazing things. best wishes from turkey.
Everything looks familiar but I'm having a hard time putting it together in a meaningful way. It sounds like Türkmen. 1400 years ago, if I spoke to a Hun Turk, he would be very confused. I saw a similar version of this in East Turkestan in the confused looks between Turks and Uyghurs.
What do you mean by confused looks?
@@uo9238 they hear the changed versions of the words they know but meanings are still the same
Old Turkic (Göktürkçe and Old Uyghur) is a member of Siberian Turkic group and not an ancestor of Oghuzs. These languages are just cognates. That's why we can't understand that well. A Siberian can understand it better.
@@Burak-gr4ee Uyghurs are descendants of the Üç-Oğuz
@@uo9238 Modern Uyghur and Old Uyghur are different. Karluks were üç-oğuz but Old Uyghur language is not Karluk. It's a Siberian Turkic language.
Love turkey 🇹🇷 from somalia🇸🇴
Why do Somalians have Arabs name? Are they Arabs?
thanks to you all, I enjoyed this video very much, interesting to see the old form of Turkic language is still living original words and terms scattered among various groups, some how we can relate to, though with some difficulties... probably Qara Hanid Turkic should be revived and made the common Turkic for us all
Thanks 🙏
For sharing new video
Nice 👍 Another video on the Turkic language family.
This was very interesting. I wonder if you could find someone who speaks Aramaic from and older era, say 2000 years ago and see how the Assyrian Aramaic speakers can understand it
what i know that until today there are people who speak ancient Aramaic ❤ in Syria in the villages of Maaloula, Jab`adin and Al-Bukh3a in the Qalamoun Mountains on the outskirts of Damascus ❤
Even There’s No Such Thing Called Assyrian Language
LoL
Never knew there’s Old Turkish! That’s really cool and Turkmen is such a cool language!
*Turkic
Its not turkish. Old turkic*
@@sevketcoskun2922 There is no differences in Turkish
Turkic/Turkish = Türkçe
This has come from English and Russian there is no differenses between them in Turkish
@@Sinax_Sinax Turkish sadece Türkiye Türkçesi için kullanılır, Turkic bütün Tük dilleri için. Aynı şey değil yani
@@nevsehri4819 Turkic Turkish Türk dillində fərqləri nədir?
Bizdə fərqi yox biz Turkic deyilik Türkük
Dilimiz də Türkcədir
Great video as always, thank you Bahador! 🙏❤
Üze = üste .
Kök Tengri =gök tanrı
yağız yir = Yağız Yer
Kılındukta = kılınınca
Ikin = ikisinin
Ara = arasında
Kişi oğlu = o kişi or insan
Kılınmış = yaratılmış
thanks for this amazing video, really enjoyed it throughout!
Wow very interesting topic! I haven't seen that one coming ;)
GOK TENGRI
The word "Gök" in the expression "Gök Tengri", which we used in our old belief, is not a word used to describe one of God’s place of dominion, reign or sovereignty.
As you know, in every language, sometimes many words can be used for one meaning, and sometimes one word can have many meanings.
Even, none of these meanings may have anything to do with each other.
Then we can understand what a word means by the intent in the sentence. So can the "Gök".
The meanings of "Gök" in Turkish,
1-is “sky”.
However it does not just only mean sky. Beside that it also means
2-“blue"
3-“green"
4-“playing blue or green, in the compound of "göketmek/göğetmek"
5-“to sprout" as in the compound "gökermek/göğermek",
6-“great, lofty, high, tremendously great”
7-“sacred"
My ancestors called the lake "Baikal" in Northeast Central Asia as "Gökgöl". Because it was the largest of a series of lakes located in the northeast of Baikal, which has been partially lost, they called Lake Baikal "Gökgöl", meaning "The Greatest/Great Lake" of all. They may also attributed a sanctity because of its benefits.
As another example, I can give the name "Gökdeniz".
Saying "Gökgöl" in Turkish does not mean "lake in the sky" or "Gökdeniz" does not mean “sea in the sky". They mean “Great Lake” and “Ocean” respectively.
Just like those, the first State bearing the national name of the Turkish Nation was the "Göktürk State" of 8th century . The meaning in this name is not directly related to the physical Sky. It doesn’t mean "Turks in the Sky", "Turks from the Sky" or "Turks Who Own the Sky". From the inscriptions and legends it is already known that the word "Gök" here is "Great" and "Holy".
Gök Tengri means “Great God (Yuluğ Tengri/Ulu Tengri)”. It does not mean "God of Sky" or "God in the Sky".
Kök tengri litteraly means "great sky". In this case, kök means "great" and tengri means "sky" just like in "Üze tengri basmasar" .
Thank you Mr. Bahadır for another amazing segment
I understood a lot ! It is so close :D only some letter in the words have changed
Hello from Turkey
Fantastic video as usual, thank you Bahador.
Bir Ulus Bir Yol Bir Gelecek ! Bar bolun Türküm!
Really this is amazing honestly well done to all of you!
Çok güzel bir çalışma oldu ,balığın şehir olduğunu öğrendim eski Türkçede....bütün Türk halklarına selam...
Beiging name was khanbalik in koobilay ghahan era . The powerful mongol emperor of china
Moncuk (Boncuk) is more like a bead than pearl
Yincu is the pearl one
@@unslaadkrosis9435 İnci is the Turkish word for pearl.
Boyuncukluk
Yes, in azerbaijani it also means bead. Muncuk
But the interesting part is "yincu moncuk" is used together
It's still the same a thousand years later we use "inci boncuk" still together
As a Turkish person from Turkish republic; I can understand % 90 dialects that made by any Turk/Turkish speaking court, if it is written in Latin Alphabet.
For example; lets sat there are 200 Thousand words in Turkey's Turkish and 200 Thousand words in Kazakhstan Turk/Turkic language. We the Turkish Turks use different word for different meaning but what ever word Kazaks uses iy also exists in our language and you can use that word to describe same thing or vice versa.
Before the genocide of Stalin, a common Turkish was used in Central Asia.
Which ons ?
one *
How it was called
@@ai-kt3hy most Turkic languages understand each other now and if stalin did not use genocide all of them use 1 language
Kanka Ortak türkçe göktürk zamanlarında filan vardı göçlerden sonra yok benzer lehçelerimiz var sadece stalinin genosidinin buna alakası yok
You should try to make a video like this to see if Finns and Estonians, and maybe Hungarians, could understand old Finnic.
Best wishes for our Uralic far brothers) God bless Finland
Great people !! I have a little conern, though... I think every single word should have been analysed, some words weren't touched on. I guess it's because this was the first video of a new serials of such videos which I d follow faithfully all the time.
Dear Bahador, how about a video on Latin vs Sanskirit? I think it would be a great video.
that's a great idea. :)
Latin,Greek and Sanskrit. For Bahadur it's just like a tip of a finger.
selam olsun oğuz kaan ın beylerine onların,boylarına.
dilde birlik, dinde birlik. bir olalım ,yar olalım. kırılmayalım. muhtaç olduğumuz kudret,damarlarımızdaki asil kan, göğsümüzdeki imanda dır
as usual a wonderful video
Thanks
Great job again.
Beautiful. I love you guys. Muhtesemsiniz.
Turkic Runic script is very easy
Her Türk öğrenmeli
knk keşke adam akıllı biri öğretse ya ilk okulda falan seçmeli olsa iyi olur
@@user-fw8ox7kz5t gökbey uluç öğretiyor
@@user-fw8ox7kz5t lisede seçmeli olmalı
Haklısın Qandaş Kıpçaktan Ezen-esenlikler
@@abaikospen9178 sana da kandaş
It's definitely the best youtube video I've ever seen in this subject.
I really appreciate your efforts Bahador
I asked to my friend,Who is kökturk close? Volga tatarian... 😂 She said: Its understand all Turkish or, Başkurdıstan turkic too. She is a historian, teacher. She understood already.
What is bashkurdistn turkic . Who understand all turcik languages? Volga tatars
Great work 👏 👍
@Qd player
The old turkic language combination of few dialogues
For me personally its hard to understand all
Because I grow up in a Persian speaking comunity
Sadly turkic language is not my first language .
But my blood is turkic blood
Respect 🙌
The guy in left doesn't know the true meaning of first sentence. He thinks kök tengri is "sky god" because todays turkish gök/kök means "sky" and tengri/tanrı means "god" but in old turkic kök means "blue" and tengri means both sky and god. So the correct translation of first sentence is "Blue sky on the top, and the brown land in the bottom created, humanity created between them."
The name Tengri ("the Sky") is derived from Old Turkic: Tenk ("daybreak") or Tan ("dawn") ultimately from Proto-Turkic *teŋri (“sky, heaven)
It's not a generic term for God
That was fascinating!
I would die to see Hausa vs. Arabic or English vs. Nigerian Pidgin :)
Would be interesting to see Tang Chinese vs Mandarin and Cantonese
Tang dynasty also is turkic family )) research it ))
@@alpaybayatlu541 :))))
@@furkankoc8997 )))) cidden kafayimi yedim acaba?))
Esenlikler Türk Ulusa!
I was strangely surprised. I understood most of the Göktürk sentences. I wasn't expecting this much. I think I might have understood more easily what is written in the inscription, since I have heard the Turkish dialect many times in many places. (Bu arada ben Türkiye'denim 😊)
As a Turk, I could decipher the Göktürk well but the Uyghur although seemed familiar felt far away.
Dinlersen pek farkları yok.
Very interesting. Like using old english or proto germanic between Danes and English. I was surprised to understand many old Turkic words, as i know some Turkish, and from listening to easter Turkic music across Asia, from Turkey to Uighur ( may God help those people!). Ben =men, at =jorga at times, giz is kiz bolsun is olsun and so on. Also, Istanbul Turkish has dropped first letters at times, and meanings drift over time and space. So each participant got Gok Turk better than each others daughter language. These are wonderful videos and help to forge family bonds across miles and time. I feel close to Turkic peoples. I could have written this in Osmanli but would take too long. Allaha ismarladik. Karl / Kadri
Bu türkic olayını kim çıkardı be. Daha o zamanlarda bile türk yazıyormuş işte.
These three countries understand each other very well 🇹🇲🇦🇿🇹🇷 because they are oghuz turks
first veiw n first like frm India🇮🇳
I'm Kyrmchak, it's very similar to our language
@@balporsugu2.0 possibly but who knows
Hi Bahador. Is there any chance that you can bring a Chuvash speaker to your program and compare the language to another Turkic languages?
Thanks in advance.
I would really love to and I'll try my best :)
@@BahadorAlast please make Chuvash and Turkish with Shimal, Shimal is great. For last time it would be good to see her again
My ancestors are somewhere from the Caucasus and east of the Urals, more recently Azerbaijan and my grandma speaks a very rare dialect that I suspect is spoken between Kumak and Urmia but is also intelligible in Iran still can't figure out what dialect it is of Turkic I'm of mixed Turko-Persian and Caucus ancestry!
you should feature iraqi turkmen.
Thanks for the video
Yarlıgamak = To pardon
Bağışlamak (Persian origin?) = To donate
Affetmek (Af is Arabic origin?) = To forgive
Also 'Uğuçlamak' 👌
If it's Arabic, it could be عفو? (pronounced 'afw, the ' being a pharyngeal fricative).
@@elidrissii Turkified Arabic word like Persian 'Afw Kerden'
@@elidrissii yes it is.
Turkish take the action (foreign) noun and add to it "etmek"(or eylemek/kılmak in some rare cases) to form the verb.
Examples
Affetmek(arabic عفو )
Devat etmek ( arabic دعوة)
Motivasyon etmek (french motivation)
KökTürk yazıtlarıyla ilgili yeni bir video olsa ver her Türk boylarından birer kişi olsa tadından yenmez birvideo olur. Teşekkürler
18:52 Balık taştın, balık means city. If you think balık you cannot say balık you have to say like baalık, which means bağlık, like bonded place. In turkish, burası beni bağlıyor, here is bonding me. So balık so baalık means bonding place.
9:47 İn Turkish language there is no difference between Turkic and Turkish. We use Turkish (which is mean Türk in Turkish) for the "Turkic" verb in English that's why he said Turkish. No need to be offended
Also some people use “turki” instead of turk but the i comes from Persian and means actually Turkish. So Persian turki means Turkish. As you said in Turkic languages there were no word like Turkic, Originally it was just “Turk languages”(Türk dilleri)
Yaşasın türkçe videoo
We speak (Turkish in Turkiye) a Turkic language which is very close to Old-Turkic. That's why we can understand the Siberian Turkic easily. Because not all of the Anatolian Turks have came from the Central Asia, many have came from the north (Ural-Siberia).
Bahadoor you are really missing out in one language called Swahili its 47% Arabic. It's in number 16 in most highly spoken language in the world.
Are they Muslim?
@@zubairmohammadyusuf942 some are
❤love those eyeglassed persons they revealed a lot of words that i forgot
make a video on what are the similarities between Gujarati,Bengali,Marathi,konkani,Punjabi, kashmiri and hindi
Btw i was able to communicate in Azerbaican in Iran fairly well to my surprise. I try to learn more Turkish. But what i learned is an older variety that confuses Turkish youth today: beynelmilel, zira, muhabere, and " yuz numara" are not common today for example. And pronou ciation must be correct. I learned this when asking a shared taxi ( dolmush) driver if he was a dolmuz. Or telling a girl she was a cok guzel kuz. But that was long ago when i was young and none on your videos were born (1965). I later volunteered to live and travel all over Turkeye . Advising government on radio systems. Love that land, people and wonderful food! Karl / Kadri
As Bilge said the oldest form of turkic is much familiar which is really strange. Normally newer forms should be closer to us like old/middle/modern english.. Maybe thats the result of the language reforms of the early republic that tried to form strong ties with the gokturk form.
Well they (Bilge and Atash) both know old Turkic. They’re linguists.
@@TarlanT Bilge didnt say she studies linguistics.
@@Ozgur72 Atash definitely knows Old Turkic. He discussed it a lot in his videos.
What you call Oğuz is Horezmian, which developed around 900 as a result of mixing of various Turkic groups.
@@almazchati4178 noooo ( turk oguz begleri) from (bilge kagan)
Our grandmothers still call fire od in Anatolia. We have swear words from hundreds of old Turkish languages. We still use them. But I won't write about them here now.
Yes 😍
As a Turkish speakin persong I summarize:
Old Turkic (Göktürk) = Directly related to modern day Oghuz subgroup of Turkic languages 85% intelligible
Old Uyghur = Has nothnig common with contemporary Uyghur lang. but forefather of modern Western YUGUR lang.-people. So it's almost impossible to understand just some words are recognizable
The first text (Göktürk script) is clearly twisted towards modern Turkish (or modern Oguz languages).
And interpretations were also twisted.
Turkic Country
🇹🇷🇰🇬🇹🇲🇰🇿🇺🇿🇦🇿🇭🇺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺
Don’t speak any Turkish but I speak Brazilian Portuguese and ironically I understand everything what the hell how is that even possible
Good marihuana?
como? kkkkkkk
Cuz marijuana is a hell of a drug man!
brazilians are turkic confirmed
@@mertozbek680 Because of smoking pot?
19:00 Balık like in Balıkesir and Han Balık (City of the Khan, the capital) is the city.
İs it Paleokastro?
@@michael.m-mira2665 No not
I am trying to follow with my A1 level Turkish ... It doesn't work ☺️
Especially when you try to understand proto-Turkish-Turkic. 😀even if you are a native Turkish speaker you have to have a large Turkish/Turkic vocabulary in order to follow :)
Come on. I speak Azerbaijani on a A0,5 level and I understand yavaş, məni sever mü siz, kitab and some other words. 😁
@@safi-sultanbeyli7761
You're a genius bro 😂.. to be honest I understood few words here and there too
Okay this is freaky ! I can understand some words! I am Mongolian and I am convinced that we have same ancestors!
My name is Mongolian it comes from Berke + and 😊
I DONT KNOW WHY I WATCHED IT COMPLETELY WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING A SINGLE WORD.BUT ENJOYED IT. FROM PAKISTAN..GOOD JOB BHADUR
Bu sözü nogai tatarı olarak söylüyorum turk=turkic=turkmen=turkish hepsi türk ayrı gayrı değil türk türktür!!! Bu yabancılar nedense ayrı gayrı sanıyor bazıları tabi
Amrak is like Amore?
No, it means "loved, dear or darling" more than "love". The words are similar but completely different...
@@adinsaniam6781 this is purely Mongolian word амраг- lover (sexual way) it is more poetic expression амраглах-to make love
I skipped the introduction part and was listening to them thinking Güneş is Turkmen and Ataş is Turkish, Im sure you can tell why. Lol. Just found out Turkmens dont look as Central Asian as the rest of the Central Asian Turks😂
Please bring more Turkic languages with people who have more culture. Please let them speak only Turkish and try to get along. do not use any other language
I'm Iranian Azeri and i Love persian more than Azerbaijani Türkish . I know Both but i like persian more . Don't be so hard on Languages , bro . Language is used for communication . It doesn't matter if People understand What Language . The common language that People understand is The Most proper language and it doesn't matter if it's اوُیغوُرجا or Mandarin ..
@@burzumimmortal5667 and you are a traitor of your kind. Protect your own language!
@@burzumimmortal5667 you are just a Farsi :)
@@burzumimmortal5667 I'm sure you're just Farsi or consumer of Persian propaganda . Otherwise , you wouldn't prefer other language over your native language .
@@burzumimmortal5667 muh im persian stop the cap