Abusive and/or controlling parents don't listen that easily. It doesn't matter how clearly the child communicates his/her desires. The parents wants totally control and couldn't care less what the child wants/needs.
Danielle Freeman you are right, but some parents like Nagisa’s mother are like that because of the regrets in life they made, or because of the problems they had with their own parents. Hiromi, Nagisa’s mother, is a broken (albeit demented) bird because of the regrets in that we made in her life. Her parents made her study for tests, and forbade her from wearing girly clothes. They even made her keep her short (probably wanted her to be a boy, but that’s just my theory). And not only that, but she was unable to get into the university she wanted to go to. She decided to have a daughter who she could use to obtain those dreams for her. Even though she ended up getting a son, our beloved Nagisa, that didn’t stop her from living vicariously through him.
@@victorhernandez8723 a better way to say it is a entitled person, meaning they thinks the world revolves around them and if things don't go their way then it's wrong, for example let's say an entitled person prefers one color over another like red over green so unlike normal people who'll accept that other people like green, an entitled person will say that their opinion is wrong and will try and force them to make red their favorite color. If you have reddit then R/Entitledparents has all kinds of story of these people
Seriously, mental and emotional abuse is just as serious as physical abuse. It might not give you bruises, but it can absolutely tear a person down to nothing, shape and mold them to be whatever the abuser wants. Plus it's harder to detect and prove for obvious reasons.
I mean, at least Endeavor knows he's easy to hate. Whenever someone speaks against Nagisa's mum, she tries to guilt trip them as if she's the best thing that's ever happened to them, and that it's rude for them to disagree with her. Endeavor just skips all that bull with a "I don't care one bit if you hate me, because that's not important. What's important is that you grow stronger." And then he got development and genuinely cares, regretting his mistakes. Nagisa's mum was arguably more difficult (maybe not worse) than Endeavor prior to Season 4. Now he looks like an angel compared to her
"If only this one had been born a girl I would've groomed her to be my ideal." That sentence pissed me off so much when I first watched it ...cause while I was born a girl it was so annoying to have my mother constantly belittle me cause I wasnt what she wanted. This is why I love Nagisa with all my being. I understand. Don't 'groom' your kid to be everything you wanted to be...they're a PERSON. LET THEM GROW.
I understand my dad wasnt too pushy thankfully but I know my brother was his favorite because he wanted a manly man son which is what my brother is while I’ve always been feminine
I feel you my mom use to force girly stuff on me when I was little cause my sisters use to dress up al the time. She still hates it when I call myself a tomboy. Still am to this day.
On the contrary, I felt like is one of the only scenes in the entire show where koro-sensei makes a mistake that actually matters. You can’t reason with trauma.
@@djmewtwo6981 I was honestly kind of hoping he would have reviled himself to scare the shit out of her while lecturing her on how she should and shouldn't treat her child.
3:47 , the way Nagisa’s mother is portrayed in this shot, real gives the effect of the personality of this character. Really emphasizing the scary and controlling side of her. ( and is it just me, or does she in this shot look like a weirder version of a titan from AoT)
@[:] Spiwitual [:] That face would've given me nightmares were a weaker person. Also now that you mention it, comparing that expression to a titan's face makes it worst.
@@kairop I honestly feel that ending was so weird seriously. Years of abuse isn’t fixed in just a few days you know. And parents don’t suddenly get along and marry again. Granted, they just married for Nagisa’s sake, but people normally don’t make that decision.
Still salty about Hiromi never actually paying for how she treated her son his entire life. It takes a hell of a lot more than a single display of badassery to get through to a smothering parent like her. And it should've taken a whole lot more than an apology for Nagisa to just forgive his mother, regardless of whether it was a front. Remember, just so she could replay her own life through that of her child, she was *dead-set* on having a daughter, even if it meant turning her *only son* into one.
@@tayojones9460 Whether or not you can forgive something really depends on the kind of person you are. I'm pretty sure Nagisa's forgiven people for worse.
The fact that Nagisa's mom could find the real Karasuma after meeting Koro sensei like this kind of shows how his cosplay was pretty close to the real one.
Because of tramua. She is trapped in broken dreams and a terrible upbringing. That doesn't mean what she is doing is right, but that's what causes much of her behavior.
@@giyuhavenofriends679 So what's the problem? It's not like you need to love and watch the show to do a reference. And there are plenty of places where other anime reference are used and if you are finding about this thing now you must be new to the internet and anime community.
Well she had trauma and her parents never let her so maybe they killed her roots or something that kills the growth of hair again this is an anime if there’s nothing like that it’s fictional
2:48 I know the subtitle at the top is just for the sign at the back, but "Out of Order" makes alot of sense here. Nagisa's mother clearly is taking charge here against her own son's will, which isn't something a parent should ever do. In order words she's failing as a mother, hence being out of order.
The fact that Nagisa's mom actually changes at the end of this little arc is unquestionably a toxic implication thrown around in Japanese society. "Just communicate better, it's your fault s/he's like this". In America and most western countries if you get caught doing the shit she does to her child, the child goes to social services and outside of the abuse, at least in the cases where people can actually save the children after social diagnosis. You can't change damaged adults in a way that will help the kids in time at this sort of level. Most people don't have perfect parents, but Japanese society is extremely willing to push down the abuse out of sight because of their lack of willingness to support the abused, out of petty "fear" of reprisal that likely doesn't exist. And they wonder why birth-rates have gone down. People abused as kids don't usually marry. And the bullying that actually goes on in Japanese schools is absolutely reprehensible. All because the bad seeds can get away with it easily it gets worse, because the incidents are always pushed down. In the west we have the same problems, but people actually stand up and defend each other and are less afraid to do so. Because we all understand that letting abuse slide leads to another school shooting, or another gangster, or more murder. And I bet a lot of violent stuff and crime in japanese society is pushed down to keep appearances. It's absolutely terrifying how pervasive the ideas demonstrated here are in Japan.
I hate to break this to you, but emotional manipulation hardly ever actually gets counted as child abuse in the American system. As long as you have a nice house, appropriate living quarters, and no physical signs of abuse most places are like "yeah they're fine" and move on.
@@rinyaskyline Except she literally bashes Nagisa's head against a table at one point and gets caught by a teacher on a massive violent rant on extremely unhinged shit, which in America is cause for a forcible psyche eval of both parties. Teachers and faculty have the authority to call social workers.
@@rachetmarvel931 No, the west has a huge amount of issues. Don't be dishonest and reduce the conversation. Japan also has issues. If you're blind to that and you idolize something instead of analyze it, you're part of the problem in both countries.
This episode is why I was so "EH!" when the finale said Nagisa's mom and dad was gonna give their marriage another shot. From what I've seen, like no! They are horrible for each other. Why is that part of the happy ending!?
It’s a little better explained (albeit not well) in the manga. What nagisa wants is to live normally. And after her shock with the assassin she’s implied to mellow out alot (although we don’t see much of it, especially in the anime). The experience snapped her to reality and so she started attempting to act better. While I’m sure she was still unhinged AF, trauma doesn’t go away from more trauma, what we’re shown is her trying to improve herself after that wake-up call. The main issue is she’s a tertiary character and utterly irrelevant, so she only gets what showing is absolutely necessary for the story.
@@devilboy4877 bruh they keep calling him a skilled assassin when he's not if he is a skilled assassin he should be as good as koro sensei apprentice who is good at strategizing an assassination and he have every detail of the area and he marked the best possible entry points in that one montage of him and koro sensei yet he nevrer succeeds in that where as karma and koro sensei apprentice succeed at strategizing that doesn't mean if you're good at sneak attack doesn't mean you're a skilled assassin that sneak attack wouldn't work if you're target is a skilled fighter and knows who to defend him or herself so the only way to kill him or her is to lure them or killing them in different way yet nagisa never shows different ways of how to kill a target or anything that hitman do to execute his target all he does is sneak attack that's the only thing he does so no he's not a skilled assassin in the hitman universe they said that you should know your target everything he or she does and his or her routine or where he or she goes every day and yet nagisa never show him knowing his target in the hitman universe they know you're a deadly assassin and if anyone know anything about nagisa then nagisa tactics wouldn't work because they know how to defend him or herself against his sneak attack so yeah his not a skilled assassin and he never show any assassin skills
I know right they are all like: hey guys let’s eavesdrop ooh I think it’s getting interesting the an Anger wave pops up the students are all like Oh my god she is one Angry Lady Me: Aw man the reaction is hilarious
@@victorhernandez8723 Both work. She's trying to control his life like he's a puppet, and also dresses him up like a Barbie doll. Edit: Realized I misread your comment.
Honestly depends on the situation. While in countries like China, a son is preferable for economic reasons, in western societies it varies. A demented enough parent would honestly do either. Heck, crazy people aren't a cultural constant anyway, so I wouldn't put it past anyone.
If I'm not wrong she wants a daughter as a projection of her shattered dreams when she was young. It was revealed that she lost her dreams bcs she's a female and they restricted her so much bcs of her gender. By having a daughter and trying to make her daughter 'perfect', she wants to prove to people that women can do as good or even better than men. And her obsession becomes even more maladaptive when she didn't even get a daughter but a son instead
Ken nn Obviously, as a young girl, Hiromi parents forced her to prioritize studying and she was never able to dress herself up. She always dreamed of attending one of the countries top universites, and getting a job at a very prestigious company, but failed to achieve either of these goals. This lack of fulfillment, as well as her controlled childhood, caused Hiromi to wish for a daughter, so that she could live the life she had wanted through her. However, she had a son, Nagisa, instead. Despite having a boy, Hiromi still tried to live the life she wanted through him. Her methods included keeping Nagisa's hair long and occasionally forcing him to crossdress. According to Nagisa, it was Hiromi's controlling and semi-psychotic temper that drove his father away. So she’s not suitable to be a parent, but it depends on the situation, all I know is someone call child protection services on her..
Yeah like said earlier it really depends. Although historically it used to be the opposite, now we see more cases like Nagisa's especially in the west. Once there was a case that sparked some indignation about a mom with strong opinions on gender expression who forced her young son to dress and act like a girl from a early age. If I remember well, the mom was sued for child abuse.
I remember watching those scenes in middle school and my mouth was dropped open and my mind was in an endless "WTF is wrong with this lady?!" loop. Rewatching it in high school, with a much better knowledge on people, makes me glad of these characters being shown bc it gives watchers an idea, whether big or small, about how these people tick and what the warning signs are.
As someone who has a mom like this it's tough and anger provoking to see. People who are like this don't listen to reason unless it benefits them and are extremely controlling and manipulative. It made me really upset that Nagisa was like "I understand your stress mom so I'm gonna help out around the house!" It's a horrible way to explain Nagisas mom because it doesn't matter what Nagisa does, his mom is always going to find ways to be upset with him and she is gonna find new ways to manipulate him. At least that is my experience, so it's frustrating to see such an awful character be essentially forgiven without actually learning a lesson.
Almost being killed by an assassin and rescued by her own son forced her back to reality... scary as she is, she was too caught up in petty things to realize Nagisa could be more successful without her influence then he was when she constantly forced her complexes on him and expected to be with him (in some form or other) until the end of HER days. I don't think her fainting was just the adrenaline wearing off: she's in shock that she smothered him when she should've savored him for who HE was, and since he's assassin skills prove he can handle himself, she now realizes he might leave the nest sooner then planned.
Siren ajpw your profile pic.... it reminds of my apprentice..... The current shinigami that I had to murder in cold blood......... Anyways hi back ;) (I am typing this comment from purgatory, teaching the E class brought me innocence, while being the shanigami and murdering people brought me sins)
I'm willing to bet Nagisa wasn't the only one being abused and given that without clear signs of abuse most kids are primarily left to mothers in the vast majority of cases around the world fighting for Nagisa could do more harm then good. Children can often become tools for abusers to hurt their spouse if the kid is not seen to be on the abusers side. If the Dad saw no sign of physical endangerment and no evidence to show abuse in court then leaving Nagisa with her and not fighting for custody is arguably safer for him. Maybe if he was older and could be trusted by a court to choose who to live with but that differs between countries.
Careful. That's how he gets you. Going in for a hug is his favorite assassination technique. Of course, I wouldn't be able to resist either. Assassination risk or no, the kid deserves a genuine hug.
You know, I've literally only avoided this show specifically because of how Nagisa was drawn, my younger and more ignorant brain figured this was some sick writers fantasy being played out, only to now realize it's actually a very real point about abusive parents. I'm so sorry for my old ways.
As someone who has a parent like that they handled it pretty well, kind of way too well. controlative/manipulate parents not tend to listen, no matter how well "their" child may explain it. their own trauma isn't an excuse either. yeah it gives a clearer vision on why they do it, but not an excuse. they should never be parents, and shouldn't have custody.
this is not how you handle an abusive parent like this at all, all you're doing here is giving them a slap on the wrist for no reason, you need to go harsh on monsters
Ok koro sensei needs to call child protective services on this lady She is an awful parent and awful person She doesn't deserve to have nagisa or any children for that matter She needs to look at herself in the mirror and say "Am I a good person?" I know this isn't in the video but in the episode she tries to make nagisa burn down the school And when he refused she went nuts and tries to make herself look like the victim in a very scary way Bottom line is that she shouldn't have a child
Nagisa needs to grow a pair and threaten her that if she doesn't accept him as her son and if she's not going to be greatful of being a mother then he WILL sever ties with her.
i agree. back then when i first watched the ending of this show i was happy seeing nagisa's parents reunited but now i realize that what his mother did to him was so grave and nagisa should've cut ties with her. she should be grateful he still thinks of her as his mom and still happy to live with her
“...my baby...is pulling away.....he’s leaving me” Me: NUH UH. HE AINT YOUR BABY. AND HES JUST LEARNING HOW TO DO THINGS FOR HIMSELF. HES HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULL-CRAP LADY
Well, yeah. The whole premise is teaching high schoolers how to assassinate and kill their teacher. I think they're, like, fifteen in this. That's traumatic shit right there.
I hate how in the end his dad got back with this abusive psycho! Seriously, she mentally, emotionally and psysically abuses her SON, get's called out by a teacher once or maybe a few others but in the end suffers NO real consequences and is in fact REWARDED for her behavior!
I want to be mad, because I feel like his mom was emotionally abusive. And then on the other hand I'm like, but that's why Nagisa is so talented as an assassin. Then this crazy heifer took it to another level, drugged her son, then tried to force him to burn down his class building. Other children are educated there too! And now I wonder maybe Nagisa would have turned out just as crazy, I'm surprised his dad took her back...berating her son, because he wasn't born a girl and constantly pushing everything she wanted for herself off on him.
She was also physically abusive. I believe, in this same episode, there's a scene where Nagisa tries to say he doesn't want to leave the class and she slams his head into the table.
Omg I liked the fact of Nagisa looking like a girl, but finding out that basically it wasnt his choice just makes me so sick to my stomach. I could just throw up.
Abusive and/or controlling parents don't listen that easily. It doesn't matter how clearly the child communicates his/her desires. The parents wants totally control and couldn't care less what the child wants/needs.
Danielle Freeman you are right, but some parents like Nagisa’s mother are like that because of the regrets in life they made, or because of the problems they had with their own parents.
Hiromi, Nagisa’s mother, is a broken (albeit demented) bird because of the regrets in that we made in her life. Her parents made her study for tests, and forbade her from wearing girly clothes. They even made her keep her short (probably wanted her to be a boy, but that’s just my theory). And not only that, but she was unable to get into the university she wanted to go to. She decided to have a daughter who she could use to obtain those dreams for her. Even though she ended up getting a son, our beloved Nagisa, that didn’t stop her from living vicariously through him.
murder the parent
@@laelhochberg9497 it's still her mother's problem
Yeah I like / too
Brother Andy
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When an invincible octo-teacher is a better parental figure.
Stinkfly3 yeah. I would do anything to have him teach at my school
Don’t forget to mention the part where he is the childs assasination target 😂
An invincible octo-teacher that will *destroy the world.*
True but he still could possibly be an alot better parent than are Nagisa's mother
@@kingexplosionmurder1308 Hopefully, Nagisa will be a better parent to his own child.
I love how Koro-sensei took off a wig just to make fun of Karasuma.
Nightingale of Madness I just love korosensei 😂
😂😂
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@@Demenzia Thank you for your time.
She is the reason why we were all confused about Nagisa's gender in the first place
My sister was kinda mad at me thinking he was a girl at first but dude
She’s sleepaway camping him that’s NOT HEALTHY
@@Gooberwares damn you really had to remind me of that?
@@Gooberwares PFF IT'S SCARY HOW ACCURATE THAT IS
@@heynae2016 I know it’s terrifying ! And horrible
The voice actress for Nagisa's mom does a great job, especially with the enraged breathing and all
A big ol' plot twist regarding her VA is that she voices Ashido in MHA and Kyoko Kirigiri in the Danganronpa anime
@@avaduffy1486 damn she got range, but that's a given for Japanese VAs
@@bukalayzx Oh, I was talking abt her English dub VA, Caitlin Glass! Sorry I forgot to clarify before
@@avaduffy1486 welp she's a talented va. XD
@@bukalayzx Yeah, she's got mad skill and I respect that
“She’s a knock out!”
“More like she’ll knock you out!”
Dead as-
Izumi Curtis: She don't want this smoke...!!
Not wrong though
Knock out? Bah! With the way she treats him, I definitely wouldn't hit that
@@bluubandette8871
Nobody wants to mess with Izumi 👀
Lol I was rolling
karen forgot her pills again nagisa remind her, okay?
Karen XD she is kinda the "karen" type of mom
The ending might make you like her even more.
anime is paradise 0w0
What is a “Karen” mother?
@@victorhernandez8723 a better way to say it is a entitled person, meaning they thinks the world revolves around them and if things don't go their way then it's wrong, for example let's say an entitled person prefers one color over another like red over green so unlike normal people who'll accept that other people like green, an entitled person will say that their opinion is wrong and will try and force them to make red their favorite color.
If you have reddit then R/Entitledparents has all kinds of story of these people
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If she actually met Karasuma I don't think he would tolerate her
I wished that happened
I feel like he would shave his head to make the same point koro sensei made
@@happy_amoeba lmao
@@happy_amoeba 😂😂
A wig is just a nest for the bald egg that Kurasuma-sensei’s head.
I really don't get why everyone is treating Nagisa's mom so gently, she's literally just Endeavor with less physical abuse.
At least endeavor got handled better then her by the writers
But that's just me
Seriously, mental and emotional abuse is just as serious as physical abuse. It might not give you bruises, but it can absolutely tear a person down to nothing, shape and mold them to be whatever the abuser wants. Plus it's harder to detect and prove for obvious reasons.
@HQ Endeavor did, Nagisa's mom got a slap on the wrist. She should've got worse coming to her.
@HQ I guess you haven’t watched MHA season 5
I mean, at least Endeavor knows he's easy to hate.
Whenever someone speaks against Nagisa's mum, she tries to guilt trip them as if she's the best thing that's ever happened to them, and that it's rude for them to disagree with her.
Endeavor just skips all that bull with a "I don't care one bit if you hate me, because that's not important. What's important is that you grow stronger."
And then he got development and genuinely cares, regretting his mistakes.
Nagisa's mum was arguably more difficult (maybe not worse) than Endeavor prior to Season 4. Now he looks like an angel compared to her
"If only this one had been born a girl I would've groomed her to be my ideal."
That sentence pissed me off so much when I first watched it
...cause while I was born a girl it was so annoying to have my mother constantly belittle me cause I wasnt what she wanted.
This is why I love Nagisa with all my being. I understand.
Don't 'groom' your kid to be everything you wanted to be...they're a PERSON. LET THEM GROW.
I understand my dad wasnt too pushy thankfully but I know my brother was his favorite because he wanted a manly man son which is what my brother is while I’ve always been feminine
I feel you my mom use to force girly stuff on me when I was little cause my sisters use to dress up al the time. She still hates it when I call myself a tomboy. Still am to this day.
Do you see what RUclipsrs are doing to their kids they are seen as product for entertainment
@@typicalfiend4492 that didn’t even make sense
@@typicalfiend4492 unfortunately most humans always use each other to get ahead look at the Jackson 5
Textbook case of a parent trying to manipulate their child so they can live vicariously through them - abolutely horrific way to bring up a child.
The dark side of gender neutrality!
Nagisa’s mom is a sexist and a manipulator she’s also an abusive mom which is why he has his hair long..
Try telling my mum that.
munchausen syndrome
"co-dependent parent"
look it up
My (already high amount of) respect for Koro Sensei skyrocketed when he swiftly and verbally put Nagisa's mother in her place
Lmao Koro-sensei for the win
On the contrary, I felt like is one of the only scenes in the entire show where koro-sensei makes a mistake that actually matters. You can’t reason with trauma.
He should have scared the shit out of her
@@djmewtwo6981 I was honestly kind of hoping he would have reviled himself to scare the shit out of her while lecturing her on how she should and shouldn't treat her child.
@@zenitsuagatsuma7337 I agree but I think she would report if he revealed his true form
Fun fact, while Koro talked with Nagisa on the phone, Koro was in Russia.
Прикольно 😂
My lord has there been a place where Koro hasn’t been
@@Jcartist_10 Third base with Aguri Yukimura
@@birdiejohnson8502 ouch.
@《Plazy 09》 where’s that
4:28 I just love how korosensei ties nagisa’s hair back for him 😭
3:47 , the way Nagisa’s mother is portrayed in this shot, real gives the effect of the personality of this character. Really emphasizing the scary and controlling side of her. ( and is it just me, or does she in this shot look like a weirder version of a titan from AoT)
It’s not just you.
Omg now I can’t unsee
@[:] Spiwitual [:]
That face would've given me nightmares were a weaker person. Also now that you mention it, comparing that expression to a titan's face makes it worst.
it looks like that curse in jujutsu kaisen (the one during prison arc or when sukuna used domain expansion)
@@suqma7828 the first finger bearer?
Jesus, that woman sends a chill up my spine no matter how often I watch this.
Watch the last few eps when they get along
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@@kairop
I honestly feel that ending was so weird seriously. Years of abuse isn’t fixed in just a few days you know. And parents don’t suddenly get along and marry again. Granted, they just married for Nagisa’s sake, but people normally don’t make that decision.
Yep
Right
Nagisa’s mother is messed up.
Understatement of the year!
@@victorhernandez8723 haha true
You don’t say
No shit
“I love you but I wanted a pretty daughter.”
Still salty about Hiromi never actually paying for how she treated her son his entire life. It takes a hell of a lot more than a single display of badassery to get through to a smothering parent like her. And it should've taken a whole lot more than an apology for Nagisa to just forgive his mother, regardless of whether it was a front. Remember, just so she could replay her own life through that of her child, she was *dead-set* on having a daughter, even if it meant turning her *only son* into one.
Well, that's how things work in Japan. If a parent is genuinely sorry for what they did, the child is expected to forgive them.
It is not that bloody simple. Nagisa should have cut ties with his mum. There are some things you cannot forgive.
@@tayojones9460 I completely agree. Unfortunately, Japan is notorious for its values dissonance compared to other countries.
@@tayojones9460 Whether or not you can forgive something really depends on the kind of person you are. I'm pretty sure Nagisa's forgiven people for worse.
Nagisa would be better if he was with his dad tbh
This made me cry even more knowing how Koro Sensei cared for Nagisa and his freedom too!
Honestly I would be ok with korosensei letting him live E class or just live in another room nearby or camp in the forest close by.
The fact that Nagisa's mom could find the real Karasuma after meeting Koro sensei like this kind of shows how his cosplay was pretty close to the real one.
F
5:46 that ending when you realized the person you snitched found out
SleepyWolf do you know the ep?
HeyInés T SEASON 2 EPISODE 9 or 10
Title: Round 2 Time
"care to explain this?"
"...no"
Just Run
3:47 Oh God somebody fricking call eren jeager it's a Karen titan
EDGY life WHEEZE LMAO CALL LEVI OVER
No called the survey corps and maybe Levi if you could
@@areui669 not even Levi could kill the Karen titan we need everyone
No call all the Soldiers, Corporal Erwin and Queen Christa included.
Shaun Hughes a million Levi’s?
If nagisa’s mom likes long hair then why doesn’t she grow out her hair?
Because of tramua. She is trapped in broken dreams and a terrible upbringing. That doesn't mean what she is doing is right, but that's what causes much of her behavior.
She probably believes shes passed her prime
True
I ruined your 666 likes
karen
Nagisa Mom
Quirk: super scream
Description: she screams so loud that the whole world, screen and people are shaking to the core
You must be a big FAN of MHA isn't?Inserting their Animes in other Animes
@@giyuhavenofriends679 So what's the problem? It's not like you need to love and watch the show to do a reference. And there are plenty of places where other anime reference are used and if you are finding about this thing now you must be new to the internet and anime community.
What is quirk?
@《Plazy 09》 ok ill check it out
I can imagine present mic saying that😂😂😂
You can tell how uncomfortable Nagisa was when his mother started to talk about his hair. It's frustrating to see.
"if assasination is your forte, what CANT you do?"
did he just indirectly suggest Nagisa to kill his mother?
I support it
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Grow your own hair! Also, he does try and talk but his head gets slammed into a table every time.
Anime’s answer to Mother Gothel!
Well she had trauma and her parents never let her so maybe they killed her roots or something that kills the growth of hair again this is an anime if there’s nothing like that it’s fictional
She’s isn’t allowed
I am not entirely sure, but that seems like a quote from anime sins or something like that.
@@JCBPandaNinja that doesn't justify it
His mom is the reason why he made millions of men fall for him
And when they found out he was you know a HE. Many hearts have been broken
@@mxchamii6708 that just makes it better
@@biggiecheese3702 I imagined a meme like that 3 minutes before reading this-
Either way, Nagisa does actually look kinda cute with his hair downward.
1:30
"More like she'll knock you out"
Nagisa: You have no idea-
Yea, she need some milk
You did NOT just go there!
"she's a knockout!"
"More like she will knock you out"
3:49 She almost reminds me of a titan.
I’m pretty sure she’s the smiling titan
2:48 i know the out of order is for a sign but i just think its there cause of her
Very true xD
2:48 I know the subtitle at the top is just for the sign at the back, but "Out of Order" makes alot of sense here. Nagisa's mother clearly is taking charge here against her own son's will, which isn't something a parent should ever do. In order words she's failing as a mother, hence being out of order.
I watched this show years ago, even watched this clip a bunch of times and I just connected the "out of order" to Nagisa's mother today.
The fact that Nagisa's mom actually changes at the end of this little arc is unquestionably a toxic implication thrown around in Japanese society. "Just communicate better, it's your fault s/he's like this". In America and most western countries if you get caught doing the shit she does to her child, the child goes to social services and outside of the abuse, at least in the cases where people can actually save the children after social diagnosis. You can't change damaged adults in a way that will help the kids in time at this sort of level.
Most people don't have perfect parents, but Japanese society is extremely willing to push down the abuse out of sight because of their lack of willingness to support the abused, out of petty "fear" of reprisal that likely doesn't exist. And they wonder why birth-rates have gone down. People abused as kids don't usually marry. And the bullying that actually goes on in Japanese schools is absolutely reprehensible. All because the bad seeds can get away with it easily it gets worse, because the incidents are always pushed down.
In the west we have the same problems, but people actually stand up and defend each other and are less afraid to do so. Because we all understand that letting abuse slide leads to another school shooting, or another gangster, or more murder. And I bet a lot of violent stuff and crime in japanese society is pushed down to keep appearances. It's absolutely terrifying how pervasive the ideas demonstrated here are in Japan.
I hate to break this to you, but emotional manipulation hardly ever actually gets counted as child abuse in the American system. As long as you have a nice house, appropriate living quarters, and no physical signs of abuse most places are like "yeah they're fine" and move on.
@@rinyaskyline Except she literally bashes Nagisa's head against a table at one point and gets caught by a teacher on a massive violent rant on extremely unhinged shit, which in America is cause for a forcible psyche eval of both parties. Teachers and faculty have the authority to call social workers.
West good, Japan bad.
@@rachetmarvel931 No, the west has a huge amount of issues. Don't be dishonest and reduce the conversation. Japan also has issues. If you're blind to that and you idolize something instead of analyze it, you're part of the problem in both countries.
Everyone can improve as a person
This episode is why I was so "EH!" when the finale said Nagisa's mom and dad was gonna give their marriage another shot. From what I've seen, like no! They are horrible for each other. Why is that part of the happy ending!?
It’s a little better explained (albeit not well) in the manga. What nagisa wants is to live normally. And after her shock with the assassin she’s implied to mellow out alot (although we don’t see much of it, especially in the anime). The experience snapped her to reality and so she started attempting to act better. While I’m sure she was still unhinged AF, trauma doesn’t go away from more trauma, what we’re shown is her trying to improve herself after that wake-up call.
The main issue is she’s a tertiary character and utterly irrelevant, so she only gets what showing is absolutely necessary for the story.
I think I understand Nagisa. Why he would fit for assassin...
He's not even a skilled assassin
@@roxle9905 Bruh
@@roxle9905 Bruh are you serious? Did you even watched the show?
@@devilboy4877 bruh they keep calling him a skilled assassin when he's not if he is a skilled assassin he should be as good as koro sensei apprentice who is good at strategizing an assassination and he have every detail of the area and he marked the best possible entry points in that one montage of him and koro sensei yet he nevrer succeeds in that where as karma and koro sensei apprentice succeed at strategizing that doesn't mean if you're good at sneak attack doesn't mean you're a skilled assassin that sneak attack wouldn't work if you're target is a skilled fighter and knows who to defend him or herself so the only way to kill him or her is to lure them or killing them in different way yet nagisa never shows different ways of how to kill a target or anything that hitman do to execute his target all he does is sneak attack that's the only thing he does so no he's not a skilled assassin in the hitman universe they said that you should know your target everything he or she does and his or her routine or where he or she goes every day and yet nagisa never show him knowing his target in the hitman universe they know you're a deadly assassin and if anyone know anything about nagisa then nagisa tactics wouldn't work because they know how to defend him or herself against his sneak attack so yeah his not a skilled assassin and he never show any assassin skills
@@roxle9905 no they said why nagisa fits as one it's because he's able to crossdress and trick people if wanted
For a brief moment, Koro sensei became Nagisa’s fairy godfather!
I think you meant fairy god octopus :p
@@bukalayzx
Whatever. It was still wholesome!
2:14
Koro sensei's face
lol
His face: The f*** you saying you bi---
Reminds me of a saitama
he’s like ‘dafuq id dis hoe talking about’
@@joesayerofwoah2679 One Punch Man?
Koro:jesus christ and people say I'm a threat to the earth
3:47 This part is the only reason I rewatch this video. The reactions his classmates have to his mother like this are hilarious to me.
I know right they are all like: hey guys let’s eavesdrop ooh I think it’s getting interesting the an Anger wave pops up the students are all like Oh my god she is one Angry Lady Me: Aw man the reaction is hilarious
If my mom would have force me to be an opposite gender I'm putting myself up for adoption
XD, understandable have a good time
Further proof that Koro sensei is the best teacher in all anime!
That damn women,Nagisa is'nt a puppet!
You mean he isn’t a Barbie doll.
Damn her to hell
@@victorhernandez8723
Both work. She's trying to control his life like he's a puppet, and also dresses him up like a Barbie doll.
Edit: Realized I misread your comment.
It’s funny how she wants a daughter and in real life it’s the opposite
Honestly depends on the situation. While in countries like China, a son is preferable for economic reasons, in western societies it varies. A demented enough parent would honestly do either. Heck, crazy people aren't a cultural constant anyway, so I wouldn't put it past anyone.
If I'm not wrong she wants a daughter as a projection of her shattered dreams when she was young. It was revealed that she lost her dreams bcs she's a female and they restricted her so much bcs of her gender. By having a daughter and trying to make her daughter 'perfect', she wants to prove to people that women can do as good or even better than men. And her obsession becomes even more maladaptive when she didn't even get a daughter but a son instead
Ken nn Obviously, as a young girl, Hiromi parents forced her to prioritize studying and she was never able to dress herself up. She always dreamed of attending one of the countries top universites, and getting a job at a very prestigious company, but failed to achieve either of these goals. This lack of fulfillment, as well as her controlled childhood, caused Hiromi to wish for a daughter, so that she could live the life she had wanted through her. However, she had a son, Nagisa, instead. Despite having a boy, Hiromi still tried to live the life she wanted through him. Her methods included keeping Nagisa's hair long and occasionally forcing him to crossdress. According to Nagisa, it was Hiromi's controlling and semi-psychotic temper that drove his father away. So she’s not suitable to be a parent, but it depends on the situation, all I know is someone call child protection services on her..
You can't choose the child you want. You get what you get.
Yeah like said earlier it really depends. Although historically it used to be the opposite, now we see more cases like Nagisa's especially in the west. Once there was a case that sparked some indignation about a mom with strong opinions on gender expression who forced her young son to dress and act like a girl from a early age. If I remember well, the mom was sued for child abuse.
I remember watching those scenes in middle school and my mouth was dropped open and my mind was in an endless "WTF is wrong with this lady?!" loop. Rewatching it in high school, with a much better knowledge on people, makes me glad of these characters being shown bc it gives watchers an idea, whether big or small, about how these people tick and what the warning signs are.
"She's a knock out!"
"More like she'll knock you out!"
*Oof!*
1:55
If I saw this I’d have dialed 911 immediately and told Nagisa to run
And replace her to Chisa Yukisome
Poor Nagisa
Same.
Nagisa-kun like beautiful with he's hair up & dawn. sadly no one can tall he's a boy.
Don't worry he will end up with Karma😂😂😂
@@ShinobuKocho-xz9iq true.
@@ShinobuKocho-xz9iq who told you how can a boy end with boy he will surly end with kayano
@@lester7788 Yaoi...
@@lester7788 fuck off...
5:53 Tactical escape
*EEOUUP!!*
4:13 I love how he’s still doing the voice even if she’s gone😂😂😂💀
As someone who has a mom like this it's tough and anger provoking to see. People who are like this don't listen to reason unless it benefits them and are extremely controlling and manipulative. It made me really upset that Nagisa was like "I understand your stress mom so I'm gonna help out around the house!" It's a horrible way to explain Nagisas mom because it doesn't matter what Nagisa does, his mom is always going to find ways to be upset with him and she is gonna find new ways to manipulate him. At least that is my experience, so it's frustrating to see such an awful character be essentially forgiven without actually learning a lesson.
Almost being killed by an assassin and rescued by her own son forced her back to reality... scary as she is, she was too caught up in petty things to realize Nagisa could be more successful without her influence then he was when she constantly forced her complexes on him and expected to be with him (in some form or other) until the end of HER days. I don't think her fainting was just the adrenaline wearing off: she's in shock that she smothered him when she should've savored him for who HE was, and since he's assassin skills prove he can handle himself, she now realizes he might leave the nest sooner then planned.
I’m sorry you go through this. Thank you for sharing your experience and feelings. Love is with you always.
why is his anime so gooddddd
Sweetiegirl98 AJPW I know right! 🤣✨
Joy Nzau yass
Because it is...... Nyruhuhuhu!
ETM oh hi Koro Senseiii
Siren ajpw your profile pic.... it reminds of my apprentice..... The current shinigami that I had to murder in cold blood.........
Anyways hi back ;)
(I am typing this comment from purgatory, teaching the E class brought me innocence, while being the shanigami and murdering people brought me sins)
This woman scares me
Same with me!
She looks like a titan too
@@user-mf4sj4pz5r lol
Yeh she does
@@rahblah3474 Someone get Rimeru to absorb her so he'll have the ability be a Slime Titan
3:50 The guys really didn’t stand outside the blast zone.
When the "Out Of Order" sign came over her head I laughed WAY harder than I should have.
If I have a wife like that, I wouldn't feel comfortable to leave my kids alone with her while I was gone, let alone raised them.
I'm willing to bet Nagisa wasn't the only one being abused and given that without clear signs of abuse most kids are primarily left to mothers in the vast majority of cases around the world fighting for Nagisa could do more harm then good.
Children can often become tools for abusers to hurt their spouse if the kid is not seen to be on the abusers side. If the Dad saw no sign of physical endangerment and no evidence to show abuse in court then leaving Nagisa with her and not fighting for custody is arguably safer for him.
Maybe if he was older and could be trusted by a court to choose who to live with but that differs between countries.
Yeah. Nagisa's dad made the right choice in leaving but he should've taken Nagisa with him
Omg, Nagisa's Mom is A Karen
After this episode? No
I like how the “Out of Order” sign appears on her forehead.
I feel so bad for nagisa and I would happily give him a hug
Kayano would be jealous and envy if you did that thb.
Careful. That's how he gets you. Going in for a hug is his favorite assassination technique.
Of course, I wouldn't be able to resist either. Assassination risk or no, the kid deserves a genuine hug.
the voice actor for the mother did a perfect job at that role.
The little toupee confrontation at the end was hilarious, especially the little kill attempt
I DIDN'T NOTICE UNTIL YOU POINTED IT OUT! XD
Koro sensei met his match
Challenge accepted
Why do I feel like I know you irl?
@@luchiluchi7571 maybe
@@rosaleenstark9187 hmmmmmm are you living in the Philippines?
@@luchiluchi7571 no
I swear Koro-sensei is the best thing in my life right now
My favorite teacher ever since Chisa Yukisome
"That's Nagisa's mom? She's a knockout!"
"More like she'll knock you out."
You know, I've literally only avoided this show specifically because of how Nagisa was drawn, my younger and more ignorant brain figured this was some sick writers fantasy being played out, only to now realize it's actually a very real point about abusive parents. I'm so sorry for my old ways.
You weren't wrong to be suspicious. That said, now you know what's up, so you can enjoy this amazing show.
As someone who has a parent like that they handled it pretty well, kind of way too well. controlative/manipulate parents not tend to listen, no matter how well "their" child may explain it. their own trauma isn't an excuse either. yeah it gives a clearer vision on why they do it, but not an excuse. they should never be parents, and shouldn't have custody.
@panko Or find another relative to live with but yes they usually need to cut the person out of their life
Just kill them. Plenty of methods that can't realistically be linked to you.
this is not how you handle an abusive parent like this at all, all you're doing here is giving them a slap on the wrist for no reason, you need to go harsh on monsters
i didnt know my mom was in this anime :0
Oh god-
Same i know your pain
I-
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... bruh
Ok koro sensei needs to call child protective services on this lady
She is an awful parent and awful person
She doesn't deserve to have nagisa or any children for that matter
She needs to look at herself in the mirror and say "Am I a good person?"
I know this isn't in the video but in the episode she tries to make nagisa burn down the school
And when he refused she went nuts and tries to make herself look like the victim in a very scary way
Bottom line is that she shouldn't have a child
Out of all the languages in the world and you chose to speak FACTS
Nagisa needs to grow a pair and threaten her that if she doesn't accept him as her son and if she's not going to be greatful of being a mother then he WILL sever ties with her.
i agree. back then when i first watched the ending of this show i was happy seeing nagisa's parents reunited but now i realize that what his mother did to him was so grave and nagisa should've cut ties with her. she should be grateful he still thinks of her as his mom and still happy to live with her
“...my baby...is pulling away.....he’s leaving me”
Me: NUH UH. HE AINT YOUR BABY. AND HES JUST LEARNING HOW TO DO THINGS FOR HIMSELF. HES HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULL-CRAP LADY
If she doesn't change her ways, he will leave her.
Top 10 worst mothers in anime.
@@Michiru_chan Top 1 in my opinion.
God I was crying during this scene
My parents are EXACTLY like this and I'm an adult 😭😭😭
:(
I love how nagisa's mom has swirly black eyes, it really does get really good attention to detail.
You know this show is really messed up when you think about it
Well, yeah. The whole premise is teaching high schoolers how to assassinate and kill their teacher. I think they're, like, fifteen in this. That's traumatic shit right there.
R/Entitled parents
I hate those kind of parents! As well as anti-vaccine moms!
Same. Just.. let kids live their life
@@updatedautopsyreport7358 ikr
Mom is joining the entitled squad
Nagisa's dad:i love my child in the way he is and won't force him to do anything he doesen't want to
Nagisa's mom:OBEY ME MY CHILD
"Out of order" That translation is perfectly placed.
I agree.
While I was watching this episode I thought "how the fuck is Nagisa so good at assassination" and then I saw his mom and suddenly it all made sense
The fact that his mom just yelled and made the other students jump is pretty hilarious XD
1:27 if she wasn't crazy, she would be top-tier ⏳👀
On that day humanity received a grim reminder...
Nagisas mother is the colossal titan
2:53 "Out Of Order."
*(Couldn't agree more)*
"yes, indeed i, Tadaomi Karasuma, wear a toupée!"
Best line
“Can’t afford to discourage them!”
Continues to put down every one of his opinions and emotions
I keep replaying when Nagisa's mom pulls down Nagisa's bangs
It's so smooth-
When koro sensei ripped that toupee apart that music and stuff was badass
I hate how in the end his dad got back with this abusive psycho!
Seriously, she mentally, emotionally and psysically abuses her SON, get's called out by a teacher once or maybe a few others but in the end suffers NO real consequences and is in fact REWARDED for her behavior!
Nagisa's mom scares me but beside that I love Koro-sensei high pitch scream lol 😂 it start at 5:35 and the rest of it is funny as heck
Her Brain is out of order
And in need of maintenance
i guess Nagisa’s mom wanted him to be a girl??
He would make a pretty cute girl ngl😉
@@thanoslarsonassertsdominan3676 you mean he did 😂😂 remember at the end of s1
@@xum0007 that is literally not the samething at all. That was a disguise.
Yes, but nagisa was comfortable in his gender and his mom forced that stuff on him to live precariously through him.
I mean he’s pretty cute ngl
3:30
You know, I was actually more surprised that Kuro-sensei I can move his mouth...
Love how the “Out of Order” subtitle shows up over her forehead
"she's a knockout, more like she'll knock you out" genuinely got me
Nagisa is best character in "Assassination class "
YES!!!
it makes sense why nagisa's father left to buy milk and is still looking for a shop😭
I forgot how much I loved Koro-Sensei and just Assassination Classroom in general.
A moment for Nagisa's mom's voice actress's voice
His mom turned from calm to an AOT really quick
I want to be mad, because I feel like his mom was emotionally abusive. And then on the other hand I'm like, but that's why Nagisa is so talented as an assassin. Then this crazy heifer took it to another level, drugged her son, then tried to force him to burn down his class building. Other children are educated there too! And now I wonder maybe Nagisa would have turned out just as crazy, I'm surprised his dad took her back...berating her son, because he wasn't born a girl and constantly pushing everything she wanted for herself off on him.
She was also physically abusive. I believe, in this same episode, there's a scene where Nagisa tries to say he doesn't want to leave the class and she slams his head into the table.
Nagisa's mom isn't your typical abusive parent, she's obviously mentally ill, like send her an asylum 😭
When a spanner octo is a better parental figure than your ACTUAL parents 🙂✌️✨
Am I the only person getting Saitama vibes at 3:35
Relate
@@benedictcorpuz5582 I shall relate that relation
Fr
Omg I liked the fact of Nagisa looking like a girl, but finding out that basically it wasnt his choice just makes me so sick to my stomach. I could just throw up.