Just to be clear. Cedric is an educated man who initially started out working in the corporate world. BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT MONOLITHIC. Just because we are black doesn't mean we have to speak in ebonics. Just because you know how to pronounce/enunciate your consonants and vowels does not make you a sell out. I love Key and Peele by the way.
NSD is what you guys are talking about. The narcissism of small differences (German: der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen) is the thesis that communities with adjoining territories and close relationships are especially likely to engage in feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to details of differentiation. A reason why a whole community can up-end each other because deep down we are all narcissistic. Doesn't matter what,when, or who we are, if we find even a smallest bit of differences on someone else, we instantly alienate them from our minds space. Doesn't mean we should act on those impulses. Instead, we need to address the issue and relate to each other more because you have the difference that you have but having the same roots as other. People
Aint that the truth?! I hate how that works. Sick mindset of these trapped peoples, black, brown and any other. So wanting to do well and get educated is a white mans game?
Resistance to whiteness has always been apart of the black identity in America. That's why everything we do has style and flair. We refuse to walk, talk, wear our clothes/hats, or play our music like them. It's how we created our own separate culture inside of America.
Uncle Phil started practicing law to work civil rights cases ffs.Hes been about his people and him earning his place in the upper echelon of society at his time meant alot to people watching the show.Carlton himself was breaking down barriers and taking space.Carlton does goofy shit but hes always on point about his fitness,education,his money,his credentials. You just cant take people at face value,especially these days where our lives are so chaotic.
nlwilliams31 come on now, let's forget all this crap and say a prayer to Obama. He'll make it all better. Anyone who has been on TV has an opinion that is not worth hearing. Anyone!
Basement Network Look, i like Aries but the problem with this is that we still think that you need to be validated to be black. He missed the whole point of "Keanu" you don't need validation from ANYONE! all this "black community/ culture" bullshit is the real harm for black people.. we fight for the Freedom of being the way we are... But we still have the necesity to be categorized by other black people? FUCK THAT and fuck the so call black "community"
+ohhKilla Saying that is like saying some places doesn't deserve help or establishment for living purposes to be restored. "maybe their hood doesn't deserve help" is very ignorant in my opinion
Sure there is ,it's called delusion.also add lack of education. They happen to be black ???? What does that mean??? Were they another colour and it happened so they became black. The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me,shake my head
Also,why is "blackness" such a thing? Asians have none of this "keeping Asian". Latinos kind of have it but no where near to the extent that black Americans have do. It just seems limiting.
Trev Barlow simple answer slavery. Systematically put black people against each other. I hate to say it but have you ever heard the term house u know the rest.... it’s sad
@@TheMendo123 Hello Joe, i have heard the term "woke" a lot lately. what exactly does it mean? forgive my ignorance I am from the baby boomer generation.
@@TheMendo123 got damm you white folks can't stand when a black man prefers to produce movies starring black folks. His movies aren't even about being "woke." His movies are just starring black folks. Lawd...
Nahhh...that slave sketch is funny af and im black as they get...the joke is about the irony...they dont wanna be slaves but they jealous when other guys get picked b4 they do...
It was funny watching aries and the host talk about that skit being unfunny because of the subject, but then they talk about how genius the Chappelle show white supremacists joke was. They're hypocrites to the fullest.
@@Y0mAmA84 Aries said he didn't see the sketch so couldn't comment when he saw it he never said it wasn't funny he spoke to the subject matter. For me the skit was funny but it was funny because I know their backgrounds (the whole being suburban) not because of the jokes
Travis, I'm not a fan, but I see it the way you do. Irony also in the jealousy that we as a people often display towards one another. I mean, even while standing on an auction block (one of the most offensive and demeaning things any human could endure) we find reason to put another black person down.
+Wendy Cheng It is for Black people. If you actually had any real connection to the culture you would understand that. Your lack of connection (as well as theirs) has more to do with an ignorance of black culture ( due to class, region, media etc) than skin tone. No shade intended.
+Wendy Cheng I get where you are trying to go with this, but you are kinda proving my point. Wu had a genuine connection with Asian culture due to the region they grew up in and the class they were born in. Where as Key and Peele's only real connection to black culture is who was their DNA donor. They grew up in a "white" culture, a "white" class system, and possibly a predominantly "white" neighborhood. So when did they have the opportunity to really absorb the "black" culture? In his book "Tao of the Rza" you can clearly see the road Wu traveled that allowed them to absorb multiple cultures while staying grounded in their own (something blacks did for 400+years so we are kinda good at it) as children in the projects on into adulthood (training with Shaolin Monks and at Shaolin, studying Buddhism, learning the language etc).
I was born in Brooklyn. Deeep Red Hook projects Brooklyn. I think K&P and Dave are funny as hell. Neither need to affirm there blackness for anyone. People live different lives depending on their environment.
Your so-called "Blackness" is just another American subculture. There are white folks in trailer parks that could be considered acting black. It's just environment and economic status. If you're poor and uneducated your mannerisms are certain way. If you are well-to-do and haven't education you act a certain way. Regardless if you're black or white. have you ever seen a black person that was born into generational wealth acting like a poor " nigga " ?
What I always loved about Key & Peele is their ability to turn expectations on their heads. As an educated brother from the hood I'm accustomed to folks always trying to box me in. What gets me, is the people questioning my blackness over certain choices of food, hobbies and music are the same ones with no knowledge of Marcus Garvey, Mae Jemison or WEB Dubois. There is no litmus test for blackness and if it were most would fail on history alone. Context is everything; I even remember black folks getting mad at The Boondocks when it first aired. Does no one understand what satire is?
I ain’t even black and I’m familiar with all 3 folks you named. But I thought everyone learned about these people in school during February. To think of it, you know what, I felt like I was one of the only people even paying attention in history class during the African American history segments. A lot of my black peers just did not seem interested in it. I live in Miami, if you asked any of the kids of my generation, “what did you learn about African Americans / Blacks in history class” a large majority would only be able to tell you “slavery” and when you ask them what about slavery, they can’t even say much. Rosa parks, back of the bus, Abe Lincoln, emancipation proclamation, segregation are probably the few bullet points they’ll even remember. I believe that the issue is that black history in the us (at least in Florida) was taught segment by segment by segment, instead of treated as a cohesive subject. We should have one grade year where only black history is taught. None of this shit where we only teach our youth about black history during February, and compact it into one fucking chapter of a history book. That one chapter teaches the same shit every year for 8 years. Makes no sense to me.
they are corny af to me and im not hood at all. Dave Chappelle is not "hood" and most black people mess with him. there are some cultural aspects about groups of people that most of them follow, just because you dont does not mean that there is not a collective culture. A lot of yall are dissing your own people by trying to paint key and peele as too "intellectual" for hood blacks to understand. like i said, they are corny.
Aries got a point. People from the street see through the surface level shit better than anyone. If you can go anywhere and be accepted you’re a real one. If you gotta put on an act to match your surroundings it sticks out
Used to be one of the things labeled on us and made cops and store attendants leary of us. Part of that culture is important because it exists. Its mostly prominent. It is real to us. However, it isn't ALL of us. Until we get more Peele's, the world will continue to believe this. Because that's what the media told us about ourselves. That we're akin to murderers and rapist; that we are thieves and cannot be trusted; that Black people are the "other". People like Jordan Peele, Dave Chappelle, Donald Glover teaches us and the world that we are human. A word many say but not many really believe.
Aries mentioned Will Smith but failed to also mention the episode were will defended Carlton when the fraternity leader claims Carlton wasn't black enough #facts
If we're to use a Fresh Prince comparison, one that comes to mind is when Cartlon goes to the hood with Will, then starts acting like an over the top stereotype. The problem is, neither Key or Peele are from that background, yet whenever there's a scene that requires them to be "thugs", they come up with these ridiculous, and frankly rather patronizing, caricatures of black people.
@@artvandelay3840 It's a "comedy" show man... It's meant to be an over the top caricature to make people laugh. Who the hell would be offended on behalf of hood niggas for something like that anyway... No one with half a brain aspires to be a hood nigga, the stereotype exists for a reason.
I met Aries Spears at the Omaha funny bone when I worked there and he was such a down to earth great guy. I met many famous people at that job, but Aries and Michael Winslow were the most amazing human beings I met. I'm white so I don't have anything to say about what he's speaking on, but damn he was the nicest and most welcoming person I ever met.
Remember when Aries Spears played Cuba Goodings jealous, hating brother in "Jerry Mcquire"? He was brilliant...mainly because he wasn't playing out of character.
Key isn’t from the city of Detroit, he’s from the outskirts of the D, two very different places. He graduated from a mostly white Private Catholic High School (with by brother in law) so that’s who he is. All that said, he’s a brilliant comedian.
Where I grew up at, the most respected people were the ones who were true to themselves. When you try to conform to the group, people may like you, but that doesn’t equate to respect understand that. I had a friend who was the definition of a thug, and I had a friend who stayed in the house, watched anime and collected marbles. There aren’t many people in this world who are TRULY comfortable with themselves.
Aries just jealous man.....let me ask u this... Is it a crime if a black man wants to get out of the hood & disassociate himself from his old lifestyle bcos he's living a better life now?....Its not about whose being real & not.... It's about bieng successful.Now whether u win by fair play, lying or cheating at the end of the day winning is winning.
Keeping it real isnt really keeping it real. Its a codeword for doing whatever is going to destroy ur entire life. Its actually being what degenerates think u should be
Google User Whitey put you in the ghetto and fed you that mindset, and you swallowed it like a good little girl. You know they won when you not only stop fighting back, but start fighting against those who do. LOL, your bloodline is so fucked!
This isn't about "Acting" black or not wanting to get out the hood. Its a case of not being about black culture but still impersonating it and catering to black cultures viewers because they happen to have the black skin color. There is a difference between being black and black culture. Their culture, their friends, their upbringing and their wives are not black culture. But they will be cut checks to do black culture stuff....
puppetstr1ngs Black culture is the lives that the majority of black people live and/or come from. Not all, but the majority. Whether it's rap music, cool aid, reggae, the hood, afros, Church Gospel etc. No, black culture isn't all good because of its structure and origin. Black culture only became a thing in the last 150yrs after slavery, there was black culture before slavery which wasn't as destructive but that we can't connect to because it was destroyed. black people had nothing and came from nothing so ultimately it doesn't mix with upper class stuff...What you hear from black comedians is black culture. A black person raised on tea and crumpets, coming from a good neighbourhood, listening to country music etc doesn't come from or represent the majority, therefore doesn't come from black culture. The majority cannot relate to this.
puppetstr1ngs "Acting like a thug" you say... Is the common misconception l. Like 2pac would said, "yes he is a thug because he came from the gutter and he's still here" it's not acting. It's a way of life that the majority can relate to
+Lucas Vegen I agree with everything you're saying, except that black culture wasn't destructive. African tribes were abducting each other to sell one another for the slave trade
Key and Peele's comedy is universally understood. They are intelligent comedians. Comedy is their craft. Being black is secondary, hence they don't feel the need to inject "blackness" into their material all the time. I'm from SE Asia, I love their humour.
The problem I have with this is that some people feel you cant be "really black" unless you can hang in the hood. That seems ridiculous to me. It seems like you are trying to reinforce the stereotypes.
+skyler brown key and peel arent really black they are mixed theres a big difference. j cole and drake aint hood cuz aint no white folks in the hood only mexicans lol. its not about "hangin" in the hood its about understanding.
+ozvictorian When you get down to brass tacks, they LOOK black...police and judges are going to treat them like they are black...they will CONTINUE to have BLACK experiences as long as they live. All the PC fluffery: "mixed" this, "half" this, "one-quarter" that...it will NEVER translate. Sorry. Look at Beyonce and the shyt going on with her in Pennsylvania. All the "part-German", "part-Irish" bullshyt....does her absolutely no good. That is all.
Have a Nigerian or a Liberian do the same. Somalia is a country filled with Somalians who happen to be black. Your skin color doesn't give you an automatic pass in any "afro" community. I learned that quickly teaching in China.
Why do Black Americans still need to qualify and quantify their color not just against white people (mind you never generally compared or contrasted against Asian, or East Indian, or Native American, or other "races") but against other blacks. It's like standing in a lineup of credibility in blackness and strength of character. Something still broke here....
At a certain point some people go from being proud of their black culture to turning "blackness" into a fetish. Asian and Arab Americans never say to each other that they aren't acting Arab or Asian enough.
if a black man is not a real black man unless he's hood, and the real truth is that he never grew up in the hood, is he supposed to fake being hood to be real
Even if it was unintentional, that slave auction sketch was a perfect metaphor for how people (specifically black people) don't know if they want to oppose the system or be a part of it.
You are Really reaching here.... I mean- Really. I'mma leave this alone-cause last time I went full bore at someone tryna explain Black life, someone's feelings got hurt...
right. Peele is a leading director in the business right now and we SHOULD be celebrating that. Period. A win for one of us is a win for us all. But there's always a salty hater nearby smh.
TayDeezy 408 haha I'm a gay black man bruh. You're gonna have to come harder than that 😭😂 But keep hating on the black men who are excelling. I'm trying to be one.
As soon as you say"I don't want this to come off wrong" it's already to late!💯 We as a PEOPLE need to get out of this, not BLACK or HOOD enough mentality!
So Russell Simmons is more black than Key & Peele? Russell is living in a mansion doing Buddha prayers! So if you don't grow up in the hood or talk black then you're not black? This is the whole problem! Black men always trying to put other black men down when a black man makes it! Haters gonna hate! Jealousy will get you nowhere!
He means when you try so hard to be accepted in the culture...it's not about how you talk...it's about how you act....and all that yo yo yo stuff they do shows that they're out of touch. They act like the black Malibu's most wanted if u need context.
@@dogsandyoga1743 Nothing wrong with yoga. I was making a joke/point combination of Russell Simmons commenting on Peele. The old familiar "ranking of the blackness", which you may be familiar with the one of it's other forms. The proverbial "list of things black folks don't do". A black man says he does something as a hobby or chosen activity, and other black folks express their surprise mixed with varying degrees of mistrust, confusion, mockery, and condemnation. Go skiing for vacation-"what?! black folks don't do that" Go snorkeling-"What?! Black folks don't do that" Try new foods from different countries-"What?! Black folks don't do that" Do yoga-"What?!. Black folks don't do that"
Wow, he really missed the point of the slave auction sketch. The whole reason it's funny is because two people who don't want to BE slaves are nevertheless offended that they are consider *not good enough to be slaves*. In Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court," King Arthur goes undercover as a peasant, gets sold into slavery, and is pissed that his price was so low. If they'd actually got sold for a high price, they'd be going, "All right, that's more like it" then immediately going "Oh wait - shit." Plus, they were already slaves - their status wasn't going to change if their owner changed. The only issue is, are they slaves that no one even WANTS, or slaves people think are strong and dangerous or something. As they go from "Fuck these white people" to "Wait, YOU are rejecting ME?" until they actually start begging to be bought, the humor increases - these guys are so insecure they'd rather be bought as slaves just so they feel like somebody respects them enough (even as forced labor). Since no actual person would act this way - it's funny. It's really not a commentary on slavery or the black experience or anything... it's just a juxtaposition from what we'd expect to something truly ridiculous (especially the way they speak in 21st century middle class dialect in the 19th century). In other words... whoosh.
I normally don't comment on vids. But this one got me thinking... I'm a 40 year old Puerto Rican from the Bronx. Grew up at the height of the crack epidemic. All of my friends were Puerto Rican, Black, and Dominican. What I've noticed over the last few years is this... The face of what mainstream America considers Black or Latino is shifting. I think that TV shows like Blackish or even George Lopez's sitcom are a reflection of this. Then I look at musical acts like TV on the Radio, Cerebral Ballzy, or Ill Nino. Being a teacher, I notice that many Black and Latino kids are now into skateboarding and independent rock music. Back in the 80's and 90's, that may as well have been a death sentence! Trust me. I know. I was the only metal head for miles! As more of us climb the economic ladder, there's bound to be some changes. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. My parents always told me that they wanted me to do better than they did. My friend's parents (of all backgrounds) said the same thing. I'm not persecuting Russel Simmons or Aries Spears. I just think that maybe this shift doesn't sit well with them. Hell, I've got family members who think I'm a sell out for being an English Teacher! But you know what? I'm not struggling either. Key and Peele are simply a new face of Black Comedians. And there are MANY faces. That's okay. The same way that not all Latinos are the same.
That's how I felt .. I'm also a native of The Bronx, born '82 the way I looked I wasnt your average Puerto Rican features plus the fact I'm half Ecuadorian. Also I was able to switch on and off from "Ghetto" to "proper" on how I spoke .. funny thing is I come from Taíno family from my father's side
Why must “the Black Community” accept who they don’t particularly care for? Key and Peele are Key and Peele. They’re funny. Their audience will be their audience; their audience will be such that like Key and Peele. It’s not required for a group of people to accept anyone. As long as they just be themselves, why worry about what you can’t control.
Keitra Sanders I see that vibe. I’m not always okay with that vibe though. To me, that’s just bullshit. On one hand, you’re embracing the stereotype. On the other hand, if the White Community stereotyped you, based on what you’re embracing, you’re ready to scream 😱 racism. That’s like implying that Blacks are only one dimensional, which we are not. I just don’t get that.
This is probably the realist shit I ever heard anybody on VLAD say, Aries Spears was on point 100! Let's keep it real, Nobody HATES Key and Peele but let's be honest...Black folks know that their personalities aren't "Black" enough for black critics/audiences to take seriously. Both Key and Peele are Biracial (Half Black and White) but mostly been around white people more than they have blacks growing up which explains why they act the way they do and why they are attracted to and married to white women (and that's fine! Nobody is hating on that)...BUT...The way that they act even on air shows that they often try a little too hard just to "BE BLACK" when they are portraying thugs, gangstas, ect. I'm not saying that they aren't funny dudes because they are and have great sketches and yes, both of them do have "Cross-over" success but most black people who do watch their show usually are either middle age black folks, middle class blacks, or blacks who try and act white...You know damn well ain't no "Niggas" out there going crazy or anything rushing to try and watch their show. But if it was someone like "Dave Chappelle" then HELL YEAH! EVERYBODY WOULD SUPPORT AND WATCH THE HELL OUT OF HIM. You know why? Because Chappelle WAS BLACK ENOUGH (As offensive as that may sound, it's the truth). Chappelle was a REAL BLACK MAN that lived a BLACK LIFE. Now can we say the same thing about guys like Key and Peele? No and that's completely fine. Again, nobody is hating on Key and Peele and nobody is saying that they aren't talented but facts are facts.
+DoGon Supreme Sorry, homie, they're biracial, just like Obama. "Each has a white mother and black father, and a lot of their comedy is about race: Perhaps because they're biracial, they're perfectly comfortable satirizing white people and African-Americans - as well as everybody else."
I agree with you.. I don't think they identify with us.. And when they do sketches it seems over board and too much.. Meanwhile Black Comedians like Martin And Say Bernie Mac identity with us, bkuz it seems like they got it Str8 out the mud, our community with Really no hand outs and made it mainstreaming
do Key and Peele really have to be Black approved to be successful? No. what type of shit is that? Calling into question how black they really are is insulting, and just because the community didn't pick them, doesn't mean they still don't belong to that community. Sit down Aries.
Don't you know? If they're not smacking at the lips, saying the N word every 5 seconds, and bastardizing English language they must not be black approved. /s
This is why I don’t like Aries. He puts people in boxes like all these racist fucks out there. Who gives a fuck about a spectrum of race? I guess this guy does. He’s part of the problem.
Both Key and Peele are mixed race and were raised by white mothers. They were raised around mostly white people their entire lives. That is why they both chose white wives.
+Black Excellence Productions NIGGA!!! Those guys just made a fucking movie and Aries Spears ain't nobody. They can tell all yall to "eat a dick" if they want.
True. Aside from what Aries said (which I happen to think was well argued overall), I agree with what I have read about Key and Peele - yes, they are not afraid to take on edgy subjects of all kinds. But primarily they liked taking on issues of masculinity, and being equal opportunity in their humor regarding all races. Proud Thug comes to mind. That was hilarious!!
I don't think Key & Peele transcend race so much as they show a different perspective on comedy and race. One skit which really got my attention was the one with Wendell. As someone who has known live action roleplayers, to see that kind of person represented as a Black man was a big shock because typically when that sort of hobby comes up the expected image is a white dude. It cracked me up and yet it didn't come off like "HURR HURR THAT DUDE ISNT ACTING LIKE HOW A BLACK PERSON SHOULD". Having listened to the interview, I can see where Aries Spears is coming from but from what I remember of the slave skit he's talking about, he's making fun of Black people who are so eager to please whites that they would put their own lives in danger and feel left out. I'll have to watch it again. With the release of Get Out and how well it's been received I wonder how Spears feels now.
Mark Whippy, I think they play on the racial absurdities and stereotypes for comedic effect---in other words attempts at making jokes. The Wendell skit works because there is a lot of truth in it.
reminds me of fresh prince of bel air episode Carlton: Being black isn't what I'm trying to be, it's what I am. I'm running the same race and jumping the same hurdles as you, so why are you tripping me up? You said we need to stick together, but you don't even know what that means. If you ask me, you're the real sellout.
Hearing this dude talk about Key and Peele is like that episode in Fresh prince where Carlton is not accepted into that fraternity because of him being a “sellout”, one the reasons that black community is not advancing is the black community itself
Wow! I thought i was the only one who related that to this. Funny how some things never change. And let's go back to the wise statement of Carlton, "Being black isn't what I am trying to be. It's what I am". Funny how some people think its a contest of who is black-er and wonder why they can't move forward.
There's another Fresh Prince episode that applies more to this, it's the one where Uncle Phil was confronted by someone because he was not black enough.
key and Peale blastsEVERYBODY in their humour their writing is cross cultural and intelligent THATS why they're successful. from what I understand they're both biracial so they can live I. both worlds. I dont see them being unnatural at all when they allegedly act black. they AREnlack and they ARE white. I can believe we are still having these conversations always gotta PROVE how black you are.
Well the black community is pretty screwed up on a whole we always got some shit to say about every body and everything but have not gotten our own shit together we can't unit, support, or lend a helping had for one another we don't stand up or unit on our own issues we don't teach our kids much self respect be they are downgraded ,beaten , and rarely Givin a chance express themselves or have a say one anything . We really as a community are lost sadly there other races raising half black or black kids and they turn out knowledgeable, able to think for themselves and have some self esteem and self worth. Not in every case but in a lot of cases
You don’t have to be an expert to have a grounded opinion? That’s like saying, “well you’re not a weather man, how do you know it’s going to rain outside?”. That’s nonsense
At the end of the day, when you're calling someone out for being themselves, it doesn't come off good. People are who they are. Take it or leave it. Debating it and trying to break it down isn't anyone's job. Accept it or don't, then move on.
It's the same in the Latino community, I was actually told once that I shouldn't be at a certain meeting because I wasn't Chicano enough. I've been told I'm too white.
I woke up one night because the Mexican guy above me was pushed out the window by some other Mexican dudes they said he was not Mexican enough and the Spanish she spoke sounded funny.
What Aries has to understand is that not all blacks act the same way, I like Aries stand-ups but Key and Peele are funny too, even if they're not "hood" enough.
They aren't funny to the black community, and he didn't say all blacks are suppose to act the same way, why bringing up that bullshit for? Racist bitch
I like how ppl get down on Ice Cube for doing "Are We There Yet?" Its a family friendly movie for kids. His gangsta rap isnt going anywhere. You can go visit it anytime you want. Hes an adult man living in a free country Cube can do whatever he wants. If he wants to make movies for kids instead of another hood/ stoner movie then so be it. Dont like it then dont see it.
One thing i learned no matter what u do or what success u have it’ll NEVER be enough. It wasn’t enough for Sammy Davis, Whitney, Michael, etc. We’re always complaining! Why not just be happy they’re successful. Period! I don’t wanna be ‘hood cuz the hood is no where anyway. I rather just be myself. Thats all i need 2 be!
Whaaat?! I'm Black and me, my girl, my friends found them niggaz funny as fuck. They were hella clever with their skits and they showed social/racial consciousness in a lot of their sketches. They were brilliant. I can't speak for everybody else, but I don't even know how you can't fuck with them if you're Black. They were on it.
I agree with a lot of what Aries said but I think something folk don't see is that Key & Peele are also reflecting what the life of a biracial black person is like which is something that is often overseen and underminded
Bullshit!! Therefore to be a true black american must live in a houshold raise by a single black mother 5 brothers and sisters with different fathers and don't speak proper english will make you authenic american black i get now .
I love Key and Peele. I understand they're over the top brand of comedy. I could care less about who they marry. I love Dave Chapelle. I don't know why we have to separate and compare everything. Comedians with different styles is all I see. I'm going to watch the substitute teacher skit right now.
@Google User I feel so sorry for Key and Peel, so lost. Maybe they find their way someday and maybe realize they have a duty to preserve their 50% African American half....and totally ditch their mothers white American-ness culture. Maybe they shouldn't have always portrayed themselves as white people on their Key and Peele show. ......never portrayed as blacks right?
I think what Key and Peele were trying to say in their sketch is exactly what vlad and spears are talking about, how they've never been accepted as "blacks". I think that's what steven beach is trying to say.
@@Bornmong Yes, that level is there. The "twist" to the sketch is that part where the auctioneer shuts it down for fear of being tarnished by the superficiality and stereotyping of the characters misters Key and Peele are portraying. Watch the video: there's the "tough talk," the "bragging" about being rejected by the exploiter class, the excuse-making, the resorting to "conspiracy theories," the over-confidence, the turning on the members of the in-group, and the insecure approval-seeking. Having said this, nonetheless Mr. Spears is smart and talented. I'm also happy to discover VladTV doing this good journalism
Even if I could be, I wouldn't wanna be a "street nigga". He's talking as if he feels sorry for K&P for not being hood, but what's the benefit of being a street nigga? Serious question. What GOOD will come of it if I become a street nigga? There's such negativity from a societal perepsctive surrounding street niggas.. what GOOD comes be living like such?
exactly. 100%. As black people, we had our cultural identity taken from us and destroyed so black people tried to make one using all the crap they happened to have around them at the time. Now they're like, "stay true to yourself! You're poor, uneducated and vulgar because that's our culture!" That's not our culture. Our culture is Kings and Queens, building wonders of the world, songs and stories, dignity and honor. It's not rap and baggy pants.
Got the same thing. If you're not a "real nigga" you're black, but not really black. Just your skin is. Really? No one else sits around and talks about their race or anyone else's race like this and isn't seen as prejudice. He's basically saying the stereotypes are true you just aren't allowed to verbalize it unless you're black (real nigga black, not just skin black).
7474jd I disagree that no other cultures do this. I've heard many other cultures do it. But honestly, it all comes from jealousy of success. If you go to a poor community of any culture, you will find people talking about how important it is to stay "true" and "real". "Don't forget where you came from", etc.
JazGalaxy Meant that they don't do it without being prejudiced. You're right. Jealousy is the culprit a good bit of the time in many different situations.
I 100 percent agree with you my dude I'm born and raised from the hood in Chicago and moved to the northwest when I was a teen and while I take pride in who I am and where I'm from and the lessons and strength living there taught me (cause people in the northwest tend to be soft as fuck) it doesn't mean I have to act like I'm from the hood. the things I like would be considered "white people" shit (anime, bmxing, tennis, a healthy lifestyle,) but I don't have to prove a certain level of blackness to anyone and it's ridiculous if any black person would ever feel they should be more hood or a street nigga to prove a point.
@@cuddifrom6 I don't think he would, one of the certain things he hated is that the idea of blacks being trapped in the mindset of we having to be acting a certain way and talk a certain way to be considered 'black' which had been placed into our minds through media. Thats why I wish people would separated the negative connotation of being 'ghetto' to acting 'black'. Edit: what people need to realise is no matter what we do or where were from our skin colour ain't gonna change and we need appreciate that.
Key and Peele is highly underrated imo..then again, I'm mixed and come from a biracial background so I can relate and find humor in 95% of all of their skits
I'm white as hell and I love Key and Peele... but I don't care about colour, comedy is comedy. I also love Patrice O'Neal (R.I.P 😢) and heaps of black OR white comedians
This dude clearly didn't understand the Slave Auction skit. He says that they are upset about not being sold into slavery. They're already slaves. The funny part is that they get upset when they're not chosen because its like a beauty pageant at that point where someone else is being chosen over you. I thought the skit was brilliant because its a subtle thing that you would look over. Aries rlly seems to be kind of down on them here every though he says he isn't trying to be
You're almost right except the auction tackled another subject that had nothing to do with a beauty pageant at all.. being a light skinned African American myself what I saw from the Key and Peele skit was two light skinned black males who were on auction, but no matter what would not be chosen because they weren't deemed "black enough" by the white masters, hence why they weren't even chosen when put side by side to a darker skinned male who looked old and weak compared to them. This is something we go through on a daily basis when around white people or darker skinned black people. Which is why they're actually upset because they just want to be seen as black the same way.. I'm surprised Aries Spears missed the interpretation, being that most of this interview was about that subject.
He is bitter if he pretending he don't get the slave auction joke. They were getting mad that they was picking less able people before them so they started selling themselves. If he don't get the irony or etc.
The way how black people talk about Get Out like it's some breakthrough cinematic masterpiece, they are overrating it. There are many movies out there with white people that has nothing to do with race. I'd love to see a movie made by someone black, with an all black cast that has nothing to do with racial issues or that has a racial undertone.There are tons of issues out there that a movie can be made of that black people should be able to relate to that has nothing to do with race.
So I'm not black enough because I speak proper and wasn't born in the supposed hood really ? African American history needs to be taught some of my people failing
people have obviously reasons to say that about you. you, however try to tell yourself it's because you "speak proper" to make you feel better about yourself.
The Salvery Joke from Key and Peele was about how they felt left out and felt they were worth basically nothing. The aim wasn't to want to work for the white man, it was a play on self worth and it was a hilarious take on how they viewed themselves vs how others viewed them. That joke seems to go over alot of peoples heads
The problem lies in the fact that they carry value based on White Principles. He cites a Dave chappelle roots skit as a different example of the same type of humor he enjoyed. Even went on to explain that he enjoyed seeing Dave Break the 4th wall and take control keeping it "tongue in cheek". Instead of key and peele sketch which remain static and after everything is them wanting to be PURCHASED by white people as if their personal value actually depends on it.
@@choochdrews yea I know the joke of Dave's Roots and it was funny. I like Key and Peele version because it was completely different and takes a light hearted approach at that particularly sensitive area of comedy. I dont think they really wanted to so much work for the white man as so much as to prove that they're not worthless like how the white man was implying in the video. See how in the beginning of the sketch they were totally convince they would be sold at least by the 3rd guy. That was a classic example of pride that even slaves had back in the day.
@@ShakaZ3D That pierces to the heart of the issue when you really think about it. Key and Peele are playing two vulnerable But also relatable characters in their sketch. I think it's frustrating for a lot of people to see portrayals of vunerability in the black community especially when the setting is pretty charged up (like a slave auction) I enjoy key and peele too I just have to play devil's advocate because I see both perspectives.
@@choochdrews the WHOLE IRONY about this interview clip is the fact that the subject matter of essentially not being "Black enough" is totally missed when Aries Spears interprets the Key and Peele skit. That skit ACTUALLY handles how they are viewed from society... NOT BLACK ENOUGH. Even though the subject matter of the skit was controversial, I thought the message was brilliant and seemed to go over the head of Spears and the female who hated it. They tackle this topic through a lot of their sketch comedy. The topic of being bi-racial and their struggles with identity from BOTH SIDES... that is A REAL issue for bi-racial people to wrestle with and I believe that this issue is at the root of a lot of their skits (especially the ones dealing with race). ✊🏾✊🏾
@@tmo2213, that's a really astute take and I agree with you. As a biracial, it has always been an issue of wrestling with the "too light" for some black folks yet not really fitting in or being totally comfortable with white folks dichotomy. I would say though that I am embraced more by black folks and generally fell more natural and at ease, especially in my family. I think I relate to Key and Peele and their way of dealing (through comedy) with the identity crisis that I think is endemic to black/white biracials given the history of race relations in this nation. Another poster had talked about how biracials are very attuned to these dynamics and tend to not only feel it personally but look at it and study it more philosophically. I would agree with that as well. I think K&P also play on the fact that biracials could be seen as less threatening by (white) society at large (hence fit in better) and I think that's what Spears is hinting at in the interview (I think that's why they intentionally overplay the black thug roles in their skits). I would understand if blacks folks said they may feel some animosity towards biracials for this fact, that there are certain realities that biracials don't have to deal with. If you ask me some days (even now), I'd rather not be biracial but 100% (I know, there is some percentage of racial mix) black. I honestly struggle even in my 40s.
aries' comedy is FROM a black perspective, and speaks TO black people. i call that TYPICAL black comedy. key & peele's comedy has more of a UNIVERSAL approach, so it portrays blacks the way THE WORLD sees them. i call that STEREOTYPICAL comedy. they both work...so let's all get over it.
Omar Scruggs When I say y'all I'm talking about fake niggas, like you. You used twice in your last post, and to me I think you use that word waaaaaaaaaaay more than is called for.
Just to be clear. Cedric is an educated man who initially started out working in the corporate world. BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT MONOLITHIC. Just because we are black doesn't mean we have to speak in ebonics. Just because you know how to pronounce/enunciate your consonants and vowels does not make you a sell out. I love Key and Peele by the way.
Thank you. Nobody is safe nowadays
Agreed..i shole was saying "ced ain't street at all" lol
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NSD is what you guys are talking about.
The narcissism of small differences (German: der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen) is the thesis that communities with adjoining territories and close relationships are especially likely to engage in feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to details of differentiation.
A reason why a whole community can up-end each other because deep down we are all narcissistic. Doesn't matter what,when, or who we are, if we find even a smallest bit of differences on someone else, we instantly alienate them from our minds space. Doesn't mean we should act on those impulses. Instead, we need to address the issue and relate to each other more because you have the difference that you have but having the same roots as other. People
Key n peele are funny
Just like uncle phil said. You work hard to give your family a good life but then there's a penalty for success.
Aint that the truth?! I hate how that works. Sick mindset of these trapped peoples, black, brown and any other. So wanting to do well and get educated is a white mans game?
Resistance to whiteness has always been apart of the black identity in America. That's why everything we do has style and flair. We refuse to walk, talk, wear our clothes/hats, or play our music like them. It's how we created our own separate culture inside of America.
And thats sad
I was thinking EXACTLY about the Prince of Bel Air episode where they don’t want Carlton at the frat house because he’s not black enough.
Uncle Phil started practicing law to work civil rights cases ffs.Hes been about his people and him earning his place in the upper echelon of society at his time meant alot to people watching the show.Carlton himself was breaking down barriers and taking space.Carlton does goofy shit but hes always on point about his fitness,education,his money,his credentials. You just cant take people at face value,especially these days where our lives are so chaotic.
got to get out of this " not black enough" BS
spears, without a doubt
nlwilliams31 come on now, let's forget all this crap and say a prayer to Obama. He'll make it all better. Anyone who has been on TV has an opinion that is not worth hearing. Anyone!
Basement Network so "authentic black" and "not black enough" are two different things? Because he definitely said "authentic black" multiple times...
@basement network 3:43.
Basement Network Look, i like Aries but the problem with this is that we still think that you need to be validated to be black. He missed the whole point of "Keanu" you don't need validation from ANYONE! all this "black community/ culture" bullshit is the real harm for black people.. we fight for the Freedom of being the way we are... But we still have the necesity to be categorized by other black people? FUCK THAT and fuck the so call black "community"
Remember that Fresh prince episode where Carleton was called not black enough and then he shuts down the dude. Someone should show that to Aries.
Arjun Kannan exactly tell a black man he ain’t black enough ... you might see a reall N word out the blue
Literally thought the same thing when i saw this.
@So Called Black Man Asian man agrees with SoCalled ^^^^^
So Called Black Man get over yourself
So Called Black Man pussy
nothing wrong with wanting to get out of the hood man. seriously.
But its something wrong with not giving back.
Thank you, sir.
Ain't a damn thing wrong with wanting to be somebody and getting out of that crab in the barrel ass environment.
+Shawn Dowdy Maybe because their hood doesn't deserve it? You don't know
+ohhKilla Saying that is like saying some places doesn't deserve help or establishment for living purposes to be restored. "maybe their hood doesn't deserve help" is very ignorant in my opinion
+Shawn Dowdy what would middle class blacks be giving "back" to? they owe nothing to the hood.
There’s a big difference between HOOD community and Black community.
Kevin Kinnard Aries Spears thinks being black is being ignorant 🤦🏾♂️
I know, right? They're conflating the two.
Sure there is ,it's called delusion.also add lack of education.
They happen to be black ???? What does that mean??? Were they another colour and it happened so they became black. The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me,shake my head
Also,why is "blackness" such a thing? Asians have none of this "keeping Asian". Latinos kind of have it but no where near to the extent that black Americans have do. It just seems limiting.
Trev Barlow simple answer slavery. Systematically put black people against each other. I hate to say it but have you ever heard the term house u know the rest.... it’s sad
"Jealousy, the number one killa among black folk" MF Doom
@@dontlet2840 no he's right
@@gregorysmith2649 look I'm jus sayin y'all get hating and someone tellin the truth mixed up
Uh, no-- SAYING and doing dumb shit is.
Facebook, Instagram an the "love for Spanish/white people" is ruining us sir ......my opinion
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K & P did not do "black comedy" they just did comedy. very funny comedy that everyone can enjoy.
ST8URCASE you made his point
The show was pretty good, the movies Jordan Peele is putting out now are just a bunch of woke pro-black movies. I don't even bother watching them
@@TheMendo123 Hello Joe, i have heard the term "woke" a lot lately. what exactly does it mean? forgive my ignorance I am from the baby boomer generation.
Joe M they really aren’t. US wasn’t even about white or black it just starred black people
@@TheMendo123 got damm you white folks can't stand when a black man prefers to produce movies starring black folks. His movies aren't even about being "woke." His movies are just starring black folks. Lawd...
“I don’t want this to come off the wrong way”....too late
Raymond Wilson Same as, “I’m not racist, but....”. Owit
Usually when people say that, they mean exactly what they say
Yup, way too late
That was his point... He wanted it to come off just like this....
Nahhh...that slave sketch is funny af and im black as they get...the joke is about the irony...they dont wanna be slaves but they jealous when other guys get picked b4 they do...
It was funny watching aries and the host talk about that skit being unfunny because of the subject, but then they talk about how genius the Chappelle show white supremacists joke was. They're hypocrites to the fullest.
@@Y0mAmA84 Aries said he didn't see the sketch so couldn't comment when he saw it he never said it wasn't funny he spoke to the subject matter. For me the skit was funny but it was funny because I know their backgrounds (the whole being suburban) not because of the jokes
Travis, I'm not a fan, but I see it the way you do. Irony also in the jealousy that we as a people often display towards one another. I mean, even while standing on an auction block (one of the most offensive and demeaning things any human could endure) we find reason to put another black person down.
Maybe Key and Peele would have more black friends if we embraced them more instead of bashing them for not being ghetto
RASHAWN RAWLS wrong!!!
they rather have white friends...look it up!!
white friends have money
@@stephenkarmichael4709 smh damn
They act white as hell. I'm brown and I didnt care for them, if you are white, you love them. Dave was hilarious and hes not from the hood.
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@@agilblack7626 they "act white" ... Meaning they don't talk like fuckin' idiots and are successful in life?
Keeping it real is for people who have nothing to lose
How do you mean? Not trying to argue, legitimately curious as to what you're saying
ppl will label him a hater but he's just real af
+willemdee facts. they have their one two moments out of like 100 attempts. Aries is right they seem like two white dudes in blackface.
+Captain America again hold this L for your lame attempt at twitter finger beef. and another L for being born. 😂😂😂😂
+Wendy Cheng It is for Black people. If you actually had any real connection to the culture you would understand that. Your lack of connection (as well as theirs) has more to do with an ignorance of black culture ( due to class, region, media etc) than skin tone. No shade intended.
+Azucar Shay shit I was trying hard to find a way to word it without being offensive. u right 💯
+Wendy Cheng I get where you are trying to go with this, but you are kinda proving my point. Wu had a genuine connection with Asian culture due to the region they grew up in and the class they were born in. Where as Key and Peele's only real connection to black culture is who was their DNA donor. They grew up in a "white" culture, a "white" class system, and possibly a predominantly "white" neighborhood. So when did they have the opportunity to really absorb the "black" culture? In his book "Tao of the Rza" you can clearly see the road Wu traveled that allowed them to absorb multiple cultures while staying grounded in their own (something blacks did for 400+years so we are kinda good at it) as children in the projects on into adulthood (training with Shaolin Monks and at Shaolin, studying Buddhism, learning the language etc).
I was born in Brooklyn. Deeep Red Hook projects Brooklyn. I think K&P and Dave are funny as hell. Neither need to affirm there blackness for anyone. People live different lives depending on their environment.
You stated it the best .. they are funny and why do they have to prove anything .. thank you
bruceleroy1973 preach!!!
True. It's organic. For example, I re-affirm my whiteness every morning when I walk past the Olivia Newton John Xanadu poster in my office.....
@@jackakhan hahahahahaha
Your so-called "Blackness" is just another American subculture. There are white folks in trailer parks that could be considered acting black. It's just environment and economic status. If you're poor and uneducated your mannerisms are certain way. If you are well-to-do and haven't education you act a certain way. Regardless if you're black or white. have you ever seen a black person that was born into generational wealth acting like a poor " nigga " ?
What I always loved about Key & Peele is their ability to turn expectations on their heads. As an educated brother from the hood I'm accustomed to folks always trying to box me in. What gets me, is the people questioning my blackness over certain choices of food, hobbies and music are the same ones with no knowledge of Marcus Garvey, Mae Jemison or WEB Dubois. There is no litmus test for blackness and if it were most would fail on history alone. Context is everything; I even remember black folks getting mad at The Boondocks when it first aired. Does no one understand what satire is?
BlackShogun 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿well said Sir!!!
@@stellaantdorz8637 Bingo
Black America is currently a matriarchy, so I don't legitimize the culture anymore if it's contrary to my world view.
I ain’t even black and I’m familiar with all 3 folks you named. But I thought everyone learned about these people in school during February. To think of it, you know what, I felt like I was one of the only people even paying attention in history class during the African American history segments. A lot of my black peers just did not seem interested in it. I live in Miami, if you asked any of the kids of my generation, “what did you learn about African Americans / Blacks in history class” a large majority would only be able to tell you “slavery” and when you ask them what about slavery, they can’t even say much. Rosa parks, back of the bus, Abe Lincoln, emancipation proclamation, segregation are probably the few bullet points they’ll even remember. I believe that the issue is that black history in the us (at least in Florida) was taught segment by segment by segment, instead of treated as a cohesive subject. We should have one grade year where only black history is taught. None of this shit where we only teach our youth about black history during February, and compact it into one fucking chapter of a history book. That one chapter teaches the same shit every year for 8 years. Makes no sense to me.
they are corny af to me and im not hood at all. Dave Chappelle is not "hood" and most black people mess with him. there are some cultural aspects about groups of people that most of them follow, just because you dont does not mean that there is not a collective culture. A lot of yall are dissing your own people by trying to paint key and peele as too "intellectual" for hood blacks to understand. like i said, they are corny.
Aries got a point. People from the street see through the surface level shit better than anyone. If you can go anywhere and be accepted you’re a real one. If you gotta put on an act to match your surroundings it sticks out
wait...so being "hood" is being true to the black "culture" WUUUUUUUTTT????
david Unoi no ure missing wat he is saying hun
He’s talking solely on black comedy
david Unoi and race relations
You don’t understand
Used to be one of the things labeled on us and made cops and store attendants leary of us. Part of that culture is important because it exists. Its mostly prominent. It is real to us.
However, it isn't ALL of us.
Until we get more Peele's, the world will continue to believe this. Because that's what the media told us about ourselves.
That we're akin to murderers and rapist; that we are thieves and cannot be trusted; that Black people are the "other".
People like Jordan Peele, Dave Chappelle, Donald Glover teaches us and the world that we are human.
A word many say but not many really believe.
Aries Spears: "When keeping it real goes wrong"
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Lmao
"He's with the niggaz....." sometimes Aries sounds enlightened and sometimes he sounds real dumb....like in this interview for example.
@@gullybop1695 true
Aries mentioned Will Smith but failed to also mention the episode were will defended Carlton when the fraternity leader claims Carlton wasn't black enough #facts
you also failed to realize that it was a television show and wasnt real.
If we're to use a Fresh Prince comparison, one that comes to mind is when Cartlon goes to the hood with Will, then starts acting like an over the top stereotype. The problem is, neither Key or Peele are from that background, yet whenever there's a scene that requires them to be "thugs", they come up with these ridiculous, and frankly rather patronizing, caricatures of black people.
@@sirvin1079 lmfaoooo
@@artvandelay3840 It's a "comedy" show man... It's meant to be an over the top caricature to make people laugh. Who the hell would be offended on behalf of hood niggas for something like that anyway... No one with half a brain aspires to be a hood nigga, the stereotype exists for a reason.
Keitra Sanders why is this even relèvent? it’s just tv... not real life.
I met Aries Spears at the Omaha funny bone when I worked there and he was such a down to earth great guy. I met many famous people at that job, but Aries and Michael Winslow were the most amazing human beings I met. I'm white so I don't have anything to say about what he's speaking on, but damn he was the nicest and most welcoming person I ever met.
Remember when Aries Spears played Cuba Goodings jealous, hating brother in "Jerry Mcquire"? He was brilliant...mainly because he wasn't playing out of character.
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Real talk
What are YOU so butthurt by what Aries said? 🤔
iflyTony he is not a hater
iflyTony 😮🤭🤭😂😂😂😂
I feel like it's worth mentioning that both Key and Peele moms are white and they grew up in white neighborhoods
peeles Asian
Chris Carter Dunno where you got that, Jordan says his mom is white and his dad black in interviews
Chris Carter lol damn, don't gotta get all worked up
black folks love to claim half breeds when applicable, bob marley, prince, malcolm x, obama, tiger woods etc
make up whatever fantasy makes you feel better. we both know how black folks are doing
Who else is here after "Aries Spears Regrets Key & Peele Criticism : Lost role on Jordan Peele Show" video?? 😂😂
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Key isn’t from the city of Detroit, he’s from the outskirts of the D, two very different places. He graduated from a mostly white Private Catholic High School (with by brother in law) so that’s who he is. All that said, he’s a brilliant comedian.
Lesley Kay Choreography does it really matter? He’s still rich lol
Where I grew up at, the most respected people were the ones who were true to themselves. When you try to conform to the group, people may like you, but that doesn’t equate to respect understand that.
I had a friend who was the definition of a thug, and I had a friend who stayed in the house, watched anime and collected marbles. There aren’t many people in this world who are TRULY comfortable with themselves.
Exactly... people act like thier aren’t black nerds in the hood. 🤦🏽♀️ I’m one of them !
Aries just jealous man.....let me ask u this... Is it a crime if a black man wants to get out of the hood & disassociate himself from his old lifestyle bcos he's living a better life now?....Its not about whose being real & not.... It's about bieng successful.Now whether u win by fair play, lying or cheating at the end of the day winning is winning.
Keeping it real isnt really keeping it real. Its a codeword for doing whatever is going to destroy ur entire life. Its actually being what degenerates think u should be
@@3rdworldgwaming467 he told the trutch without judging. you must be triggered
@@davruck1 Nah...I ain't...but it's a free world so u can assume n say what u want abt anything.
Aries is funny but i hate that "real niggah" talk. Some of us are from the suburbs lol
Google User Whitey put you in the ghetto and fed you that mindset, and you swallowed it like a good little girl. You know they won when you not only stop fighting back, but start fighting against those who do. LOL, your bloodline is so fucked!
Google User self hating piece of shit.
And guess which one American advertisers care more about...
yep...I had 89% white neighbors since age 8 when we left Detroit lol
@Cool tha Underdog Google user is probably one of those Russian trolls trying to create discord amongst the peeps.
Come up the traditional way? WTF? Blackness is defined how bad your upbringing was or how bad your parents struggled? Grow up man.
Lol if you understood this countries history, maybe you would rethink that statement LOL
This isn't about "Acting" black or not wanting to get out the hood.
Its a case of not being about black culture but still impersonating it and catering to black cultures viewers because they happen to have the black skin color. There is a difference between being black and black culture.
Their culture, their friends, their upbringing and their wives are not black culture. But they will be cut checks to do black culture stuff....
puppetstr1ngs Black culture is the lives that the majority of black people live and/or come from. Not all, but the majority. Whether it's rap music, cool aid, reggae, the hood, afros, Church Gospel etc. No, black culture isn't all good because of its structure and origin. Black culture only became a thing in the last 150yrs after slavery, there was black culture before slavery which wasn't as destructive but that we can't connect to because it was destroyed. black people had nothing and came from nothing so ultimately it doesn't mix with upper class stuff...What you hear from black comedians is black culture. A black person raised on tea and crumpets, coming from a good neighbourhood, listening to country music etc doesn't come from or represent the majority, therefore doesn't come from black culture. The majority cannot relate to this.
puppetstr1ngs "Acting like a thug" you say... Is the common misconception l. Like 2pac would said, "yes he is a thug because he came from the gutter and he's still here" it's not acting. It's a way of life that the majority can relate to
+Lucas Vegen I agree with everything you're saying, except that black culture wasn't destructive. African tribes were abducting each other to sell one another for the slave trade
Key and Peele's comedy is universally understood. They are intelligent comedians. Comedy is their craft. Being black is secondary, hence they don't feel the need to inject "blackness" into their material all the time.
I'm from SE Asia, I love their humour.
So is Chappelle’s and Richard Pryor’s.
I'm from North Africa. I prefer Aries Spears & Dave Chapelle. I don't find what their comedy as funny
Not secondary in america or anywhere. Had they been a regular Joe first thing you would see would be 2 BLACKS
The problem I have with this is that some people feel you cant be "really black" unless you can hang in the hood. That seems ridiculous to me. It seems like you are trying to reinforce the stereotypes.
+skyler brown key and peel arent really black they are mixed theres a big difference. j cole and drake aint hood cuz aint no white folks in the hood only mexicans lol. its not about "hangin" in the hood its about understanding.
+ozvictorian When you get down to brass tacks, they LOOK black...police and judges are going to treat them like they are black...they will CONTINUE to have BLACK experiences as long as they live. All the PC fluffery: "mixed" this, "half" this, "one-quarter" that...it will NEVER translate. Sorry. Look at Beyonce and the shyt going on with her in Pennsylvania. All the "part-German", "part-Irish" bullshyt....does her absolutely no good. That is all.
+prehatredism p brass tax*
+skyler brown yeah tell those same people to go live for 2 weeks in Somalia. Let's see how many buy plane tickets.
Have a Nigerian or a Liberian do the same. Somalia is a country filled with Somalians who happen to be black. Your skin color doesn't give you an automatic pass in any "afro" community. I learned that quickly teaching in China.
Why do Black Americans still need to qualify and quantify their color not just against white people (mind you never generally compared or contrasted against Asian, or East Indian, or Native American, or other "races") but against other blacks. It's like standing in a lineup of credibility in blackness and strength of character. Something still broke here....
Durka Durka yea that's what's doing it..
peter vaughn because of the socio economic trap here.
At a certain point some people go from being proud of their black culture to turning "blackness" into a fetish. Asian and Arab Americans never say to each other that they aren't acting Arab or Asian enough.
if a black man is not a real black man unless he's hood, and the real truth is that he never grew up in the hood, is he supposed to fake being hood to be real
"fake being hood to be real" i'm making a t shirt
Dwayne Lindsey u mean like u?? It's lotsa people born n raised n the hood still not hood explain that
Slow clap good sir.
I would like to hear Aries Spears comments about Aries Spears not being chosen by any community
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"known" is not Chosen tho 🤷🏽♀️
Even if it was unintentional, that slave auction sketch was a perfect metaphor for how people (specifically black people) don't know if they want to oppose the system or be a part of it.
That wasn't what the sketch was about. Nobody wanted to buy them because they weren't well built.
@@normand5847 thats why its a metaphor. There's a literal meaning, plus, a meaning that can be further interpreted.
Maybe your reading too into it
You are Really reaching here....
I mean- Really. I'mma leave this alone-cause last time I went full bore at someone tryna explain Black life, someone's feelings got hurt...
Norman D That’s not what he’s talking about. He’s saying that eventually they ended up wanting to be bought.
I think black audiences have rendered Aries Spears' take irrelevant.
Being "Real".... a systematic influence created to make black folk a caricature.
Yep. You Dayam right!
Michael A you’re probably not even black. Do you speak for the hood?
What Jordan Peele is doing with his movies is awesome on so many levels.
IDream0fDeathbutDreamsDon'tComeTrue Us was no where near trash dafuq 😂
@IDream0fDeathbutDreamsDon'tComeTrue was good just didn't rise upto the level of 'Get Out'
right. Peele is a leading director in the business right now and we SHOULD be celebrating that. Period. A win for one of us is a win for us all. But there's always a salty hater nearby smh.
@IDream0fDeathbutDreamsDon'tComeTrue trash that made 255 million worldwide. If that's trash, sign me up!
TayDeezy 408 haha I'm a gay black man bruh. You're gonna have to come harder than that 😭😂
But keep hating on the black men who are excelling. I'm trying to be one.
Once again the great Aries Spears is making some serious sense here. Can't really argue with the concept of his points
As soon as you say"I don't want this to come off wrong" it's already to late!💯 We as a PEOPLE need to get out of this, not BLACK or HOOD enough mentality!
We know we messed up when White People can say "You dont seem black", had that shit said to me so many times in High School
Or black people telling other black folks who are improving their lives that they are "Sellouts".
@@cyote312ify frfr. But that's just ignorance.
@@Tkieron trying to be like whites is not improving your life
So Russell Simmons is more black than Key & Peele? Russell is living in a mansion doing Buddha prayers! So if you don't grow up in the hood or talk black then you're not black? This is the whole problem! Black men always trying to put other black men down when a black man makes it! Haters gonna hate! Jealousy will get you nowhere!
Yea your ignorant and dont get it .... Hes talking about people like you
@@tharkanzox1493 there no such thing as talking white
He means when you try so hard to be accepted in the culture...it's not about how you talk...it's about how you act....and all that yo yo yo stuff they do shows that they're out of touch. They act like the black Malibu's most wanted if u need context.
Russell is bout as black as they come...don't get it twisted
@@rickjones9592 yeah ok! What does black as they come mean?
Fast forward to today and Peele is the darling of the black community and Russle Simmons is on the run😂😂😂
"Darling of the black community" bit of a stretch.
And does yoga. Still has the part asian ex wife.
@@gregorylagrange What's wrong with yoga?
@@dogsandyoga1743 Nothing wrong with yoga. I was making a joke/point combination of Russell Simmons commenting on Peele. The old familiar "ranking of the blackness", which you may be familiar with the one of it's other forms. The proverbial "list of things black folks don't do". A black man says he does something as a hobby or chosen activity, and other black folks express their surprise mixed with varying degrees of mistrust, confusion, mockery, and condemnation.
Go skiing for vacation-"what?! black folks don't do that"
Go snorkeling-"What?! Black folks don't do that"
Try new foods from different countries-"What?! Black folks don't do that"
Do yoga-"What?!. Black folks don't do that"
@@gregorylagrange I know. I was also making a joke. A play off my name. Like i was actually offended. 👍
We spend so much time bashing on each other instead of supporting...
Wow, he really missed the point of the slave auction sketch. The whole reason it's funny is because two people who don't want to BE slaves are nevertheless offended that they are consider *not good enough to be slaves*.
In Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court," King Arthur goes undercover as a peasant, gets sold into slavery, and is pissed that his price was so low.
If they'd actually got sold for a high price, they'd be going, "All right, that's more like it" then immediately going "Oh wait - shit."
Plus, they were already slaves - their status wasn't going to change if their owner changed. The only issue is, are they slaves that no one even WANTS, or slaves people think are strong and dangerous or something.
As they go from "Fuck these white people" to "Wait, YOU are rejecting ME?" until they actually start begging to be bought, the humor increases - these guys are so insecure they'd rather be bought as slaves just so they feel like somebody respects them enough (even as forced labor).
Since no actual person would act this way - it's funny.
It's really not a commentary on slavery or the black experience or anything... it's just a juxtaposition from what we'd expect to something truly ridiculous (especially the way they speak in 21st century middle class dialect in the 19th century).
In other words... whoosh.
OMG, this!!
If it took all this to explain it... it's still not funny.
@@AskMiko lies it was definitely funny.
Agreed. It was more a joke on the characters narcissism. Not that they wanted to be slaves.
5000% lol -- agree!
How about people just being allowed to be people. Who cares if you don't fit into someone else's mold perfectly?
billiondollardan u must be white ur name says so
Comedy is subjective
fuck off billiondolllardan what a sell out comment looking for likes
As long as you look out for your people that's all that matters Fuck how you act
Everyone is your people
This interview was the perfect example of, the key and peele show, " slavery skit". They were acting out his exact mindset.
Facts!!!!
Felicia Your comment went over a couple of heads maybe more but not mine! Great point you made 👍🏽
Exactly
Aries Spears hurting the black community more than he's helping. Stereotyping his damn self
How would you know he's hurting the Black Community?
@@geeman215 I am the Black Community.
@@buteverybodycallsmegiorgio I hardly think you're representative of the Black Community-but you go ahead...
@@geeman215 you misread me. I *am* The Black Community. Like, all of it.
@@geeman215 When Aries Spears claims to speak for all black people. He is generalizing and hurting the black conversation / community.
Keep interviewing this man
Word it's interesting
Right.
u would watch anything tho bum u have no life
agreed
yea he made it interesting
I normally don't comment on vids. But this one got me thinking... I'm a 40 year old Puerto Rican from the Bronx. Grew up at the height of the crack epidemic. All of my friends were Puerto Rican, Black, and Dominican.
What I've noticed over the last few years is this... The face of what mainstream America considers Black or Latino is shifting. I think that TV shows like Blackish or even George Lopez's sitcom are a reflection of this. Then I look at musical acts like TV on the Radio, Cerebral Ballzy, or Ill Nino.
Being a teacher, I notice that many Black and Latino kids are now into skateboarding and independent rock music. Back in the 80's and 90's, that may as well have been a death sentence! Trust me. I know. I was the only metal head for miles!
As more of us climb the economic ladder, there's bound to be some changes. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. My parents always told me that they wanted me to do better than they did. My friend's parents (of all backgrounds) said the same thing.
I'm not persecuting Russel Simmons or Aries Spears. I just think that maybe this shift doesn't sit well with them. Hell, I've got family members who think I'm a sell out for being an English Teacher! But you know what? I'm not struggling either.
Key and Peele are simply a new face of Black Comedians. And there are MANY faces. That's okay. The same way that not all Latinos are the same.
That's how I felt .. I'm also a native of The Bronx, born '82 the way I looked I wasnt your average Puerto Rican features plus the fact I'm half Ecuadorian. Also I was able to switch on and off from "Ghetto" to "proper" on how I spoke .. funny thing is I come from Taíno family from my father's side
I'm glad that black comedians are changing. The whole "white people do this and black people do this" trope was getting stale and obnoxious.
key and peele are excellent at what they do.
LMAO
I like em too. being mixed race is hard and this is proof.
+JRLM Life is hard.
I say simply be who you are and enjoy every minute of it.
The whole color thing is overrated.
+mustafahajj it is.
Entertaining those in control.
Aries Spears sniffin around got me DYIN ova here!!! 🤣😂🤣😆
Why must “the Black Community” accept who they don’t particularly care for? Key and Peele are Key and Peele. They’re funny. Their audience will be their audience; their audience will be such that like Key and Peele. It’s not required for a group of people to accept anyone. As long as they just be themselves, why worry about what you can’t control.
Preach...dropin jewels
Aries seems to be trying his damnest to reinforce a particular black ideology like he expects all blacks to dress and act like him
Keitra Sanders I see that vibe. I’m not always okay with that vibe though. To me, that’s just bullshit. On one hand, you’re embracing the stereotype. On the other hand, if the White Community stereotyped you, based on what you’re embracing, you’re ready to scream 😱 racism. That’s like implying that Blacks are only one dimensional, which we are not. I just don’t get that.
Keitra Sanders 💪💪💪💪 Thx
YES well said giirrrlll
This is probably the realist shit I ever heard anybody on VLAD say, Aries Spears was on point 100! Let's keep it real, Nobody HATES Key and Peele but let's be honest...Black folks know that their personalities aren't "Black" enough for black critics/audiences to take seriously. Both Key and Peele are Biracial (Half Black and White) but mostly been around white people more than they have blacks growing up which explains why they act the way they do and why they are attracted to and married to white women (and that's fine! Nobody is hating on that)...BUT...The way that they act even on air shows that they often try a little too hard just to "BE BLACK" when they are portraying thugs, gangstas, ect. I'm not saying that they aren't funny dudes because they are and have great sketches and yes, both of them do have "Cross-over" success but most black people who do watch their show usually are either middle age black folks, middle class blacks, or blacks who try and act white...You know damn well ain't no "Niggas" out there going crazy or anything rushing to try and watch their show. But if it was someone like "Dave Chappelle" then HELL YEAH! EVERYBODY WOULD SUPPORT AND WATCH THE HELL OUT OF HIM. You know why? Because Chappelle WAS BLACK ENOUGH (As offensive as that may sound, it's the truth). Chappelle was a REAL BLACK MAN that lived a BLACK LIFE. Now can we say the same thing about guys like Key and Peele? No and that's completely fine. Again, nobody is hating on Key and Peele and nobody is saying that they aren't talented but facts are facts.
+Jouri Soujiro
Well, they're both biracial, middle class dudes...
+DoGon Supreme
Sorry, homie, they're biracial, just like Obama.
"Each has a white mother and black father, and a lot of their comedy is about race: Perhaps because they're biracial, they're perfectly comfortable satirizing white people and African-Americans - as well as everybody else."
That acting too hard to be Black is what makes them funny asf!
I agree with you.. I don't think they identify with us.. And when they do sketches it seems over board and too much.. Meanwhile Black Comedians like Martin And Say Bernie Mac identity with us, bkuz it seems like they got it Str8 out the mud, our community with Really no hand outs and made it mainstreaming
What if they're marketing their comedy to specifically whites? Or what if they're satirizing black culture. Exaggeration is classic in comedy
do Key and Peele really have to be Black approved to be successful? No. what type of shit is that? Calling into question how black they really are is insulting, and just because the community didn't pick them, doesn't mean they still don't belong to that community. Sit down Aries.
Don't you know? If they're not smacking at the lips, saying the N word every 5 seconds, and bastardizing English language they must not be black approved. /s
Jene' Walker Its a bloody tired ass argument
This is why I don’t like Aries. He puts people in boxes like all these racist fucks out there. Who gives a fuck about a spectrum of race? I guess this guy does. He’s part of the problem.
Totally agree with you brother. you are totally correct.
Exactly! This shit would not be an issue if it were someone like Andrew Dice 🎲 Clay or George Carlin.
Both Key and Peele are mixed race and were raised by white mothers. They were raised around mostly white people their entire lives. That is why they both chose white wives.
Key and peele should listen to this critique of their work
Matt D isn't it past your bedtime Matt? Smfh
+Black Excellence Productions NIGGA!!! Those guys just made a fucking movie and Aries Spears ain't nobody. They can tell all yall to "eat a dick" if they want.
+Evil LeBron 2.0 you look up Aries before you make a statement like that. Word to the wise
Black Excellence Productions
I know who he is. He's not on Key and Peele level.
+Evil LeBron 2.0 Aries stand up shits on anything Keye and Peel have done
Key and Peele play every race on their show. White, Hispanic, Black, Italian, Middle Eastern
True. Aside from what Aries said (which I happen to think was well argued overall), I agree with what I have read about Key and Peele - yes, they are not afraid to take on edgy subjects of all kinds.
But primarily they liked taking on issues of masculinity, and being equal opportunity in their humor regarding all races. Proud Thug comes to mind. That was hilarious!!
That is why I really appreciate their humour. They transcend race and find humour in everything, at least from my perspective.
I don't think Key & Peele transcend race so much as they show a different perspective on comedy and race. One skit which really got my attention was the one with Wendell. As someone who has known live action roleplayers, to see that kind of person represented as a Black man was a big shock because typically when that sort of hobby comes up the expected image is a white dude. It cracked me up and yet it didn't come off like "HURR HURR THAT DUDE ISNT ACTING LIKE HOW A BLACK PERSON SHOULD".
Having listened to the interview, I can see where Aries Spears is coming from but from what I remember of the slave skit he's talking about, he's making fun of Black people who are so eager to please whites that they would put their own lives in danger and feel left out. I'll have to watch it again. With the release of Get Out and how well it's been received I wonder how Spears feels now.
So did DC
Mark Whippy,
I think they play on the racial absurdities and stereotypes for comedic effect---in other words attempts at making jokes. The Wendell skit works because there is a lot of truth in it.
reminds me of fresh prince of bel air episode
Carlton: Being black isn't what I'm trying to be, it's what I am. I'm running the same race and jumping the same hurdles as you, so why are you tripping me up? You said we need to stick together, but you don't even know what that means. If you ask me, you're the real sellout.
Its so true it hurts !
Damnnnnnnnn Carlton dropping them jewels
real shit
The fraternity pledging episode. I remember that. HOWEVER, Aries' comments were spot on regarding Key and Peele.
+MrZLeroy92 why? why is someone's natural sense of humor being appealing to white people worse than people like DMX pandering to ignorance?
"Are you familiar with Key and Peele?"
Um ... they were on the same show for years. O.o
Hearing this dude talk about Key and Peele is like that episode in Fresh prince where Carlton is not accepted into that fraternity because of him being a “sellout”, one the reasons that black community is not advancing is the black community itself
Wow! I thought i was the only one who related that to this. Funny how some things never change. And let's go back to the wise statement of Carlton, "Being black isn't what I am trying to be. It's what I am". Funny how some people think its a contest of who is black-er and wonder why they can't move forward.
To be fair, Carlton was a great dude who was also lame as hell. So if I was in that frat and I didn't know him, I wouldn't let him in either.
@@RaymondGW Geez. You completely missed the entire point.
@@smoochiewallace4693 whatever works for you.
There's another Fresh Prince episode that applies more to this, it's the one where Uncle Phil was confronted by someone because he was not black enough.
Aries Spears need a podcast
This needs more likes
+teaukeri yup
I couldn't agree more. His interviews are one of the best (when he's not being interrupted every 5 seconds).
Daria Nosdrahcir or being asked about other comedians every interview which is clearly annoying him
I see him joining the brilliant idiots with Andrew, CTG and wax
key and Peale blastsEVERYBODY in their humour their writing is cross cultural and intelligent THATS why they're successful.
from what I understand they're both biracial so they can live I. both worlds.
I dont see them being unnatural at all when they allegedly act black. they AREnlack and they ARE white.
I can believe we are still having these conversations
always gotta PROVE how black you are.
I'm sick of niggas all of em
Well the black community is pretty screwed up on a whole we always got some shit to say about every body and everything but have not gotten our own shit together we can't unit, support, or lend a helping had for one another we don't stand up or unit on our own issues we don't teach our kids much self respect be they are downgraded ,beaten , and rarely Givin a chance express themselves or have a say one anything . We really as a community are lost sadly there other races raising half black or black kids and they turn out knowledgeable, able to think for themselves and have some self esteem and self worth. Not in every case but in a lot of cases
They can’t live in both worlds. Biracial are not accepted as white.
I know biracial folks who are half black half white who do indeed live in both worlds
Shara Harry yes mixed people can live both world
Love when one black person speaks for all and knows what we think why we do what we do and have all the statistics behind it... have to love it
Sarcastic?
You don’t have to be an expert to have a grounded opinion? That’s like saying, “well you’re not a weather man, how do you know it’s going to rain outside?”. That’s nonsense
Looks like he hasn't slept in two years
04dram04 he looks horrible and he was never cute ughhhhh
04dram04 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
04dram04 obviously on some shit.
I agree ....he looks real bad ...overweight & damn those bags under those eyes .
At the end of the day, when you're calling someone out for being themselves, it doesn't come off good. People are who they are. Take it or leave it. Debating it and trying to break it down isn't anyone's job. Accept it or don't, then move on.
Word
That's real talk
His commentary on the auction block skit is on point.
It's the same in the Latino community, I was actually told once that I shouldn't be at a certain meeting because I wasn't Chicano enough. I've been told I'm too white.
Héktor Muñoz yea I was thinking it’s the same. However, unlike black peoples. I don’t give a shit.
I woke up one night because the Mexican guy above me was pushed out the window by some other Mexican dudes they said he was not Mexican enough and the Spanish she spoke sounded funny.
@@dezb8510what?
tanheavy they basically ran the dude out of his house through his window Because they said his accent sounded funny
So stop acting white asshole
What Aries has to understand is that not all blacks act the same way, I like Aries stand-ups but Key and Peele are funny too, even if they're not "hood" enough.
They aren't funny to the black community, and he didn't say all blacks are suppose to act the same way, why bringing up that bullshit for? Racist bitch
Damien Beckham preach
¿Zay? I agree well said
I like how ppl get down on Ice Cube for doing "Are We There Yet?" Its a family friendly movie for kids. His gangsta rap isnt going anywhere. You can go visit it anytime you want. Hes an adult man living in a free country Cube can do whatever he wants. If he wants to make movies for kids instead of another hood/ stoner movie then so be it. Dont like it then dont see it.
What would be 10x more pathetic is if he was 50 years old trying to be gangsta.
Dude is a grown man with young kids
I'd like to see him in a bad boys movie though
@Kai McCook lmao TI and Ludacris not gangsta??? You must be smoking some good crack my boy
One thing i learned no matter what u do or what success u have it’ll NEVER be enough. It wasn’t enough for Sammy Davis, Whitney, Michael, etc. We’re always complaining! Why not just be happy they’re successful. Period! I don’t wanna be ‘hood cuz the hood is no where anyway. I rather just be myself. Thats all i need 2 be!
Micheal McDonald, Will Sasso & Arie Spears was my favorite on MAD TV ✅💯👍
That's literally the only reason I watched MadTv. Oh and Bobby Lee sometimes
+assew weasa lol My Boi Bobby Lee 😂👍💯
What about Phil Lamar and Orlando?
Andy Daly
Artie Lange.
Whaaat?! I'm Black and me, my girl, my friends found them niggaz funny as fuck. They were hella clever with their skits and they showed social/racial consciousness in a lot of their sketches. They were brilliant. I can't speak for everybody else, but I don't even know how you can't fuck with them if you're Black. They were on it.
I like some of their stuff but I can see why people don't like them. Especially if you're black.
They're a hit and miss wit me. They are funny at times, but just more entertaining than anything else.
your not getting the point bro, AS have a point. I'm not trying to fight they funny but
+Drew P. Baulsach Agree
They are extremely borderline corny.
I agree with a lot of what Aries said but I think something folk don't see is that Key & Peele are also reflecting what the life of a biracial black person is like which is something that is often overseen and underminded
I agree 100.@michael Solares
and you're full idiot. why are you even here then?
Bullshit!! Therefore to be a true black american must live in a houshold raise by a single black mother 5 brothers and sisters with different fathers and don't speak proper english will make you authenic american black i get now .
Michael Solares he’s just a hater.
I love Key and Peele. I understand they're over the top brand of comedy. I could care less about who they marry. I love Dave Chapelle. I don't know why we have to separate and compare everything. Comedians with different styles is all I see. I'm going to watch the substitute teacher skit right now.
I understand where Aries is coming from but I love Key and Peele. What's real to one person isn't real to the next.
Didn’t the slaves in the sketch get freed? I think he was just looking for a reason to hate it
@@lkb4781 that was a different sketch
You can tell how good Aries's career is going by how stretched out the collar on his shirt is.
Ha!
:’(
STEALIslandSOUND ...lmao
Lol bacon neck
omg lol
I'm here because of him regretting this interview. Lol.
Hahahahaha ok ok!! Lol!!
Glad we still having to justify our blackness to other folks. Geez, thanks guys!
Luke Cage
RIGHT??!!!
Aries Spears is a funny brotha but he is missing the point on so many level.
steven beach or not
How
@Google User I feel so sorry for Key and Peel, so lost. Maybe they find their way someday and maybe realize they have a duty to preserve their 50% African American half....and totally ditch their mothers white American-ness culture. Maybe they shouldn't have always portrayed themselves as white people on their Key and Peele show. ......never portrayed as blacks right?
I think what Key and Peele were trying to say in their sketch is exactly what vlad and spears are talking about, how they've never been accepted as "blacks". I think that's what steven beach is trying to say.
@@Bornmong Yes, that level is there. The "twist" to the sketch is that part where the auctioneer shuts it down for fear of being tarnished by the superficiality and stereotyping of the characters misters Key and Peele are portraying.
Watch the video: there's the "tough talk," the "bragging" about being rejected by the exploiter class, the excuse-making, the resorting to "conspiracy theories," the over-confidence, the turning on the members of the in-group, and the insecure approval-seeking.
Having said this, nonetheless Mr. Spears is smart and talented. I'm also happy to discover VladTV doing this good journalism
Even if I could be, I wouldn't wanna be a "street nigga". He's talking as if he feels sorry for K&P for not being hood, but what's the benefit of being a street nigga? Serious question. What GOOD will come of it if I become a street nigga? There's such negativity from a societal perepsctive surrounding street niggas.. what GOOD comes be living like such?
exactly. 100%.
As black people, we had our cultural identity taken from us and destroyed so black people tried to make one using all the crap they happened to have around them at the time. Now they're like, "stay true to yourself! You're poor, uneducated and vulgar because that's our culture!"
That's not our culture. Our culture is Kings and Queens, building wonders of the world, songs and stories, dignity and honor. It's not rap and baggy pants.
Got the same thing. If you're not a "real nigga" you're black, but not really black. Just your skin is. Really? No one else sits around and talks about their race or anyone else's race like this and isn't seen as prejudice. He's basically saying the stereotypes are true you just aren't allowed to verbalize it unless you're black (real nigga black, not just skin black).
7474jd I disagree that no other cultures do this. I've heard many other cultures do it. But honestly, it all comes from jealousy of success. If you go to a poor community of any culture, you will find people talking about how important it is to stay "true" and "real". "Don't forget where you came from", etc.
JazGalaxy Meant that they don't do it without being prejudiced. You're right. Jealousy is the culprit a good bit of the time in many different situations.
I 100 percent agree with you my dude I'm born and raised from the hood in Chicago and moved to the northwest when I was a teen and while I take pride in who I am and where I'm from and the lessons and strength living there taught me (cause people in the northwest tend to be soft as fuck) it doesn't mean I have to act like I'm from the hood. the things I like would be considered "white people" shit (anime, bmxing, tennis, a healthy lifestyle,) but I don't have to prove a certain level of blackness to anyone and it's ridiculous if any black person would ever feel they should be more hood or a street nigga to prove a point.
Malcom X would have strong words to say to Aries Spears...
Not really I'm sure he would understand it.
Brother Shabaz OverStood.
@@cuddifrom6 I don't think he would, one of the certain things he hated is that the idea of blacks being trapped in the mindset of we having to be acting a certain way and talk a certain way to be considered 'black' which had been placed into our minds through media. Thats why I wish people would separated the negative connotation of being 'ghetto' to acting 'black'.
Edit: what people need to realise is no matter what we do or where were from our skin colour ain't gonna change and we need appreciate that.
@@euphoria9011 you are so right!!! 👏 i do agree with your comment.
Fuck Malcolm X. He was a fkn hypocrite
Key and Peele is highly underrated imo..then again, I'm mixed and come from a biracial background so I can relate and find humor in 95% of all of their skits
I'm white as hell and I love Key and Peele... but I don't care about colour, comedy is comedy. I also love Patrice O'Neal (R.I.P 😢) and heaps of black OR white comedians
I’m black and I’m a Key and Peele fan!!!🤷🏾♂️
Your mom gay
K
@@kevinbrown3333 WTF does that even mean?
@@Fastbreak5000 no one knows what it means, but it's provocative!
@@cdev-kz3lj lol
I gotta give up for Aries not giving us a PC answer and telling his true feelings. Much props
Aries keepin' it real.... all the way into unemployment.
LMAO! That was a good one man.
LOL!
True man. He doesn't know how to work with people so he'll keep getting losing job opportunities.
Hes worth alot more than you.
When keeping it real goes wrong..........
I cracked up to the DMX Will comparison 🤣🤣🤣
I always that key and Peele sketch was lowkey commenting on how people dont think their "black" enough?
Key and Peele are genius deeper jokes.
I think jordan peele is a genius period.
No because he's funny keygan michal key just tries to hard its cringe worthy
Them 2 bruthas are very talented and creative - FACTS !
@@Dontcutitoff i agree.
This dude clearly didn't understand the Slave Auction skit. He says that they are upset about not being sold into slavery. They're already slaves. The funny part is that they get upset when they're not chosen because its like a beauty pageant at that point where someone else is being chosen over you. I thought the skit was brilliant because its a subtle thing that you would look over. Aries rlly seems to be kind of down on them here every though he says he isn't trying to be
Exactly! I was so confused about his take. I wonder how much of the clip he watched because he was definitely off
Look at his shirt. That Should tell you all you need to know lol
You're almost right except the auction tackled another subject that had nothing to do with a beauty pageant at all.. being a light skinned African American myself what I saw from the Key and Peele skit was two light skinned black males who were on auction, but no matter what would not be chosen because they weren't deemed "black enough" by the white masters, hence why they weren't even chosen when put side by side to a darker skinned male who looked old and weak compared to them. This is something we go through on a daily basis when around white people or darker skinned black people. Which is why they're actually upset because they just want to be seen as black the same way.. I'm surprised Aries Spears missed the interpretation, being that most of this interview was about that subject.
@@lafeyettewilliams4196 I am so glad you picked up on that!!!! My friend, you just described the irony of this whole interview clip 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You missed Aries point. He thinks the slaves, the underdogs, should be the ones insulting the slave masters, not the other way around.
Reminds me of the episode of Fresh Prince that doesn’t want Carlton in the fraternity because “he’s not black enough”.
Dave chapelle completely invalidates this interview
He is bitter if he pretending he don't get the slave auction joke.
They were getting mad that they was picking less able people before them so they started selling
themselves.
If he don't get the irony or etc.
You're Just confused. He got the "joke", he just didn't find it funny. That doesn't make him bitter.
@@michaelangelotaylor8th Nat he said the slaves didn't came up like Dave's skecth
Is that you Justin?
I bet they claimed them when Jordan win that Oscar...just sayin
Mmmmhhhhhmmmm! You know they did!!!
Who is going to claim your ridiculous grammar?
@@lyleharrison9624 i think i can speak for the black community collectively when I say we don't own this mans.
THEY? who the coloreds lol
Yup
the MADTV studio was near my middle school and i would often see Spears around. Always super cool.
I wonder how people see Jordan Peele after his movie Get Out. Specifically Spears and Simmons
DRGH DRGH Wouldve loved to see them angrily muttering to themselves at how undeniable that movie was.
I was thinking the same thing!
The way how black people talk about Get Out like it's some breakthrough cinematic masterpiece, they are overrating it. There are many movies out there with white people that has nothing to do with race. I'd love to see a movie made by someone black, with an all black cast that has nothing to do with racial issues or that has a racial undertone.There are tons of issues out there that a movie can be made of that black people should be able to relate to that has nothing to do with race.
@@YoungVenchy Easier said than done. The rabbit hole goes deeper than I think you'd like to acknowledge.
Overrated
So I'm not black enough because I speak proper and wasn't born in the supposed hood really ? African American history needs to be taught some of my people failing
That's not what he was saying smh
people have obviously reasons to say that about you. you, however try to tell yourself it's because you "speak proper" to make you feel better about yourself.
Nahji Jackson yep
" I speak proper " LOL Actually no you dont
I noticed that too...
The Salvery Joke from Key and Peele was about how they felt left out and felt they were worth basically nothing. The aim wasn't to want to work for the white man, it was a play on self worth and it was a hilarious take on how they viewed themselves vs how others viewed them. That joke seems to go over alot of peoples heads
The problem lies in the fact that they carry value based on White Principles.
He cites a Dave chappelle roots skit as a different example of the same type of humor he enjoyed. Even went on to explain that he enjoyed seeing Dave Break the 4th wall and take control keeping it "tongue in cheek".
Instead of key and peele sketch which remain static and after everything is them wanting to be PURCHASED by white people as if their personal value actually depends on it.
@@choochdrews yea I know the joke of Dave's Roots and it was funny. I like Key and Peele version because it was completely different and takes a light hearted approach at that particularly sensitive area of comedy. I dont think they really wanted to so much work for the white man as so much as to prove that they're not worthless like how the white man was implying in the video. See how in the beginning of the sketch they were totally convince they would be sold at least by the 3rd guy. That was a classic example of pride that even slaves had back in the day.
@@ShakaZ3D That pierces to the heart of the issue when you really think about it. Key and Peele are playing two vulnerable But also relatable characters in their sketch.
I think it's frustrating for a lot of people to see portrayals of vunerability in the black community especially when the setting is pretty charged up (like a slave auction) I enjoy key and peele too I just have to play devil's advocate because I see both perspectives.
@@choochdrews the WHOLE IRONY about this interview clip is the fact that the subject matter of essentially not being "Black enough" is totally missed when Aries Spears interprets the Key and Peele skit. That skit ACTUALLY handles how they are viewed from society... NOT BLACK ENOUGH. Even though the subject matter of the skit was controversial, I thought the message was brilliant and seemed to go over the head of Spears and the female who hated it. They tackle this topic through a lot of their sketch comedy. The topic of being bi-racial and their struggles with identity from BOTH SIDES... that is A REAL issue for bi-racial people to wrestle with and I believe that this issue is at the root of a lot of their skits (especially the ones dealing with race). ✊🏾✊🏾
@@tmo2213, that's a really astute take and I agree with you. As a biracial, it has always been an issue of wrestling with the "too light" for some black folks yet not really fitting in or being totally comfortable with white folks dichotomy. I would say though that I am embraced more by black folks and generally fell more natural and at ease, especially in my family. I think I relate to Key and Peele and their way of dealing (through comedy) with the identity crisis that I think is endemic to black/white biracials given the history of race relations in this nation. Another poster had talked about how biracials are very attuned to these dynamics and tend to not only feel it personally but look at it and study it more philosophically. I would agree with that as well. I think K&P also play on the fact that biracials could be seen as less threatening by (white) society at large (hence fit in better) and I think that's what Spears is hinting at in the interview (I think that's why they intentionally overplay the black thug roles in their skits). I would understand if blacks folks said they may feel some animosity towards biracials for this fact, that there are certain realities that biracials don't have to deal with. If you ask me some days (even now), I'd rather not be biracial but 100% (I know, there is some percentage of racial mix) black. I honestly struggle even in my 40s.
"When keepin real goes terribly wrong! "
Aries looks like he smokes a pack of black & milds a day
Cesar G thought the pack only comes with two
Cesar G and how does a person look like a smoker, that's like smelling blue.
they come in packs of 4, swishers come in packs of two.
Tampaterry54 um no
malcolmling07 yeah.
I’m gonna be honest, this wouldn’t be a conversation if they had married black women.
Yeah look at Barack Obama
@@billiecarlock5237 we looked at him for 8 years. He is married to a black transgender 👊
White wife white company
Kira S that’s the point.........
free america huh?
aries' comedy is FROM a black perspective, and speaks TO black people. i call that TYPICAL black comedy. key & peele's comedy has more of a UNIVERSAL approach, so it portrays blacks the way THE WORLD sees them. i call that STEREOTYPICAL comedy. they both work...so let's all get over it.
facts
well said man
Not true..Key & Pele address all aspect of being black...even aspects Chappele didn't..they address racism in a buncha their sketches...
Omar Scruggs When I say y'all I'm talking about fake niggas, like you. You used twice in your last post, and to me I think you use that word waaaaaaaaaaay more than is called for.
John Barnett feel better now? Good
Aries has always been his own worst enemy
Just because you say Niggah as hard as you can, doesn't make it that more authentic. This is foolish.
I agree 100%. First off, I can't stand the word N***a...I despise it. It's an insult to our race on so many levels.
Fact......
Just stop
He says it wierd, like it's new to him or something
You don't get it. And you might never. It's a soul thing