Battle Stage in the bag, we movin! Literally got this done yesterday. Battle Stage 2 is a 2hr recording so fingers crossed for it to be edited and drop next Monday. Since I've already seen all these races I spend most of the time just talking about my thoughts of each races, so sorry in advance for pausing 🫡
No worries, Jay. I personally really love your explanations/comments. Keep up the good work! Ps.: It's good to see you're back in the game. I can't wait to see your fifth stage reactions.😄
I really don't mind your pauses and in between discussion and thoughts. On the contrary I really enjoy it as it helps me see the series through a different perspective and also reminds me of the days when I also watched Initial D for the first time. When you pause and start discussing your thoughts and opinions other than it being enjoyable it also goes to show that you're really understanding and enjoying the series and not just watching for the sake of it like many other reaction channels have done as their reaction literally feels dead, unnatural and forced.
Fun fact: In the manga, after Ryosuke passed Takumi, he never used the other gutter run to catch up. He was literally just that much faster. When Ryosuke was following Takumi he was using Takumi's lines and technique to keep up with him. Afterwards he lost that advantage plus his front tires being worn, allowing Takumi to catch up and eventually pass him. The second gutter run was introduced against Seiji in the manga
Yeah I also want to add that the ryosuke race happened immediately after Shingo, and that the Usui race was after ryosuke. I know the anime saved him as a final boss, but it makes more sense the manga way. Usui was a greater challenge as it was his first race away from akina. Mako got into racing because of ryosuke, and logically would have wanted that to be her final retirement race with him. She requested the 86 because he beat ryosuke.
39:43 - Keisuke vs Seiji race is unique to Battle Stage 1 Even the manga doesn't have that race. Only mentions the result of the race. Basic context is that before Sudo Kyoichi challenged Ryosuke Akagi downhill Seiji raced against Keisuke on Akagi uphill and Keisuke won setting the new uphill record. And since the manga has no details about the Keisuke vs Seiji race, this race in Battle stage 1 is 100% anime production team's take on the race.
Yo thx for the shout Jay Also yes that Keisuke vs Seiji race is new to battle stage, in the manga it was mentioned that it happened but they didnt actually show it. Its funny tho because you can see there using Keisukes first stage character design while Seijis is ofc his second stage.
The second gutter run prioritizes exit speed. In the manga, Takumi is forced to use it against Seiji because the Evo IV has a greater exit speed than the 86. Takumi couldn't find another way to pass Seiji without it
Yoooo lets get it, Battle Stage time, and imo these compilation ova's have really good music, not that I would prefer them over the songs in the actual anime. But the fact is there actually solid and really good. And we got a lot here so as usual gonna list them all down. Song list: 1:48 Supersonic Fire by Atrium 5:30 This Time by Derreck Simons 8:15 Golden Age by Max Coveri 12:18 You're Gonna Be by Starlet 16:51 Emotional Fire by Denise 21:50 Get Ready For Loving by Black Power 23:54 24 Hours A Day With You by Ace Warrior 29:00 Jumping Up The Nations by Toby Ash (Lmao i guess Toby ash in the comments sings songs now lol) 33:15 Love Killer by Nando 37:11 Take Me To The Top by D.Essex 39:55 She Devil by Triumph 42:05 Destination Love by Black Power 45:38 Doctor Love by Dr. Love 48:30 King Of The Night by Thomas T. 51:10 Express Love by Mega NRG Man 53:27 Crazy For Your Love by Morris 55:31 Dancin' In My Dreams by J.Storm 58:51 Generation by Dave Simon 1:02:14 Don't You Wanna Be Free by Wain L (credits Song)
19:28 @JayKReacts Yeah, at a high level, drifting most of these places IRL would take like literally like 5 mins. However, most tyres would last around 30 - 40 mins of driving before you start risking getting a tyre burst.
22:23 Because the GTR is a bad car for mountain roads. The best option is a Skyline GTT which is FR. The ATESA system on the GTR's AWD mechanism (which distributes power) sometimes is lost and creates you in result an even worse tire wear. Kozo Hoshino experienced that too with the R34. That is why his strat was trying to end Keisuke in the first run and half. Kawaii's Skyline (The blue one) is a 25GTT an FR sport Skyline, the best for touge, the problem, Kawaii is not at Project D's level. Plus all Skylines and GTRs weight a lot around 1200kg and 1500kg respectively. The idea of using the "R" is showing how good the drivers are battling tire wear. The Lancer Evo's do not have this drawback because those weight less than a GTR qnd have no ATESA system causing excesive tire wear. Also the Evo's are designed for bad roads and mountain passes since those as well as Bunta's Subaru Impreza are rally cars, designed to win on dirt and tarmac.
The GTRs are bad cars for mountain roads, but not because they are 4wd, just because they are very heavy in general. I doubt the GTT would be much better on a mountain than a GTR The ATTESA ETS is only helpful. It's not a traditional 4WD system like an EVO or a WRX. It distributes power to the front wheels based on the situation meaning if you don't need them, they aren't gonna get any power. Simply put, around sweeping turns, the GTR is RWD and around tight turns, it sends a bit of power, depending on the conditions, to the front to help pull the front out of a corner. On an R32 the front end is also heavier than the back which contributes to understeer. A heavy twin turbo i6 is just difficult to move about. Compare that to an EVO which has a transversely mounted i4 leaving next to no weight in front of the front axle. The reason I think the GTT wouldn't do better is because it's less stiff, narrower, still quite heavy and can't use ATTESA ETS. The r34 is just a really heavy car, which is why Hoshino's tyres degraded quickly and the car was skidding super wide.
@@lukygame Yep, exactly my point. Heavy for mountain = ☠️ The reason I said GTs were better is not for weight but for traction. Of course they need weight reduction or the tires will be worn fast. And the ATTESA, you have a point. However, I am pointing at the 32's ATTESA, not 33's or 4's which was greatly improved. I'm not trying to fight. Since I see you also know a thing or two. So, in any case. Good answer man.
Kozo's strategy wasn't to beat Keisuke in 1st run and a half. He knew that with his capability with the accelerator that if it was one uphill pass only that Keisuke wouldn't stand a chance. And he was right. Keisuke couldn't get to the 7 second strategy to heat Kozo. Ryosuke stated that Kozo gave himself a handicap and Keisuke himself admits on the 2nd run that the gtr has better traction than the fd. The cone overtake was simply just plan b bc Kozo was trying to end the match in round 1.
When it comes to the jumps in the Blue MR2 race in Stage 3... This is not action movie stuff... This is purely rally stuff. Kogashiwa's MR2 was setup for this kind of driving. This happens IRL bro.
if you enter the gutter at the entrance to the corner then it'll let you have fast entry speed and avoid understeering at those speeds, but it the side G forces will kick you out of the gutter at those speeds about halfway through the corner basically at the apex, but the 2nd gutter run lets Takumi drift into a corner normally and get into the gutter at the apex allowing him to stay in the gutter till the exit of the corner meaning he can start accelerating out of the corner while he's still in it, so the 1st is for fast entry speed and the 2nd is for faster exit speed and that's why using the 2nd gutter run vs Seiji in his white Evo 4 allowed the 86 to be faster on the straight even though he has less than half the horse power, he started accelerating much sooner than the Evo.
Now that you have watched this, I need you to react to the 3 Legend Movies. However I'd save that for the end of the show cause that is wayy above even final stage in style and grpahic quality. And also it could be fun to come back later to remember how the show started (note:They shorten the story in Legend movies and no more Eurobeat, but other than that they still good)
Yo bro I know u disappointed in the god arm race but trust me stage 5 and final stage will not disappoint, that win against god arm will help him in the future, you’ll see!
Hey Jay 😂I’m the guy from Hong Kong . Highly recommend you to watch the real life Hong Kong version of Initial D movie (2005) . The plot had changed a bit but they used actual cars and real drifting in that film .
@@sus-zu7wpthe live action film is one of those "it's so bad (that) it's so good" type of films as it tries to remain as unfaithful as possible to the original source material while still maintaining good acting and racing scenes. Jay should really watch it after watching the Legend Trilogy.
@@WakanaGojo86I feel like it'd be pointless to watch a live action if I already know what's gonna happen. Glad I still ended up watching it instead of being put off by the criticisms.
Honestly, I can understand why someone might not like the God Arm race ending. I thought Takumi was gonna lose that race. What I did hate is being left off on that ending for about 10 years until 5th stage 😒 (Edit) I forgot Battle Stage came out around 2002
Not really 10 years but 6 years for the next season to arrive is still a pathetic experience. But the animators had no other choice but to wait as the author was taking his sweet time to publish the next chapter. Thankfully MF Ghost might not have to go through this same issue considering that the manga is nearing its ending so MF Ghost Season 5 may air as soon as 2029
From your opinions about Ryosuke's races and the God Arm race, it honestly looks like you don't like things that make you think lol. Both of them think like racing drivers, Drivers that are able to use their opponents weaknesses are usually the best. That's why both God Arm and Ryosuke's races were the finals of their seasons... Btw... Your opinion of Ryosuke will change the next time he gets behind the wheel.
Battle Stage in the bag, we movin! Literally got this done yesterday. Battle Stage 2 is a 2hr recording so fingers crossed for it to be edited and drop next Monday. Since I've already seen all these races I spend most of the time just talking about my thoughts of each races, so sorry in advance for pausing 🫡
We will be there no matter what!!
No worries, Jay. I personally really love your explanations/comments. Keep up the good work! Ps.: It's good to see you're back in the game. I can't wait to see your fifth stage reactions.😄
I really don't mind your pauses and in between discussion and thoughts. On the contrary I really enjoy it as it helps me see the series through a different perspective and also reminds me of the days when I also watched Initial D for the first time. When you pause and start discussing your thoughts and opinions other than it being enjoyable it also goes to show that you're really understanding and enjoying the series and not just watching for the sake of it like many other reaction channels have done as their reaction literally feels dead, unnatural and forced.
The discussions are what makes this channel so good. Keep there reactions up 😃
You should increase the brightness and size of the screen because I can't see it clearly because of my brightness,like a gameboi from the 90's :/
Fun fact: In the manga, after Ryosuke passed Takumi, he never used the other gutter run to catch up. He was literally just that much faster. When Ryosuke was following Takumi he was using Takumi's lines and technique to keep up with him. Afterwards he lost that advantage plus his front tires being worn, allowing Takumi to catch up and eventually pass him. The second gutter run was introduced against Seiji in the manga
that would make sense as to why the seiji moment in the anime is staged in such a way.
Yeah I also want to add that the ryosuke race happened immediately after Shingo, and that the Usui race was after ryosuke. I know the anime saved him as a final boss, but it makes more sense the manga way. Usui was a greater challenge as it was his first race away from akina. Mako got into racing because of ryosuke, and logically would have wanted that to be her final retirement race with him. She requested the 86 because he beat ryosuke.
@@BayAreaRushHour right, I agree. I watched the anime first but once I read the manga the flow felt much better
So.
The Initial D Legend trilogy is more accurate to the manga, then.
39:43 - Keisuke vs Seiji race is unique to Battle Stage 1
Even the manga doesn't have that race. Only mentions the result of the race.
Basic context is that before Sudo Kyoichi challenged Ryosuke Akagi downhill
Seiji raced against Keisuke on Akagi uphill and Keisuke won setting the new uphill record.
And since the manga has no details about the Keisuke vs Seiji race, this race in Battle stage 1 is 100% anime production team's take on the race.
Thts cool
Yo thx for the shout Jay
Also yes that Keisuke vs Seiji race is new to battle stage, in the manga it was mentioned that it happened but they didnt actually show it. Its funny tho because you can see there using Keisukes first stage character design while Seijis is ofc his second stage.
18:36 lies...peak Mako was Extra Stage bathtub scene...
Even though I've watched initial d well over the normal amount, it's still refreshing to watch it again with a new person to the show
The second gutter run prioritizes exit speed. In the manga, Takumi is forced to use it against Seiji because the Evo IV has a greater exit speed than the 86. Takumi couldn't find another way to pass Seiji without it
Yoooo lets get it, Battle Stage time, and imo these compilation ova's have really good music, not that I would prefer them over the songs in the actual anime. But the fact is there actually solid and really good. And we got a lot here so as usual gonna list them all down.
Song list:
1:48 Supersonic Fire by Atrium
5:30 This Time by Derreck Simons
8:15 Golden Age by Max Coveri
12:18 You're Gonna Be by Starlet
16:51 Emotional Fire by Denise
21:50 Get Ready For Loving by Black Power
23:54 24 Hours A Day With You by Ace Warrior
29:00 Jumping Up The Nations by Toby Ash (Lmao i guess Toby ash in the comments sings songs now lol)
33:15 Love Killer by Nando
37:11 Take Me To The Top by D.Essex
39:55 She Devil by Triumph
42:05 Destination Love by Black Power
45:38 Doctor Love by Dr. Love
48:30 King Of The Night by Thomas T.
51:10 Express Love by Mega NRG Man
53:27 Crazy For Your Love by Morris
55:31 Dancin' In My Dreams by J.Storm
58:51 Generation by Dave Simon
1:02:14 Don't You Wanna Be Free by Wain L (credits Song)
19:28 @JayKReacts Yeah, at a high level, drifting most of these places IRL would take like literally like 5 mins. However, most tyres would last around 30 - 40 mins of driving before you start risking getting a tyre burst.
22:23 Because the GTR is a bad car for mountain roads. The best option is a Skyline GTT which is FR. The ATESA system on the GTR's AWD mechanism (which distributes power) sometimes is lost and creates you in result an even worse tire wear.
Kozo Hoshino experienced that too with the R34. That is why his strat was trying to end Keisuke in the first run and half.
Kawaii's Skyline (The blue one) is a 25GTT an FR sport Skyline, the best for touge, the problem, Kawaii is not at Project D's level.
Plus all Skylines and GTRs weight a lot around 1200kg and 1500kg respectively.
The idea of using the "R" is showing how good the drivers are battling tire wear.
The Lancer Evo's do not have this drawback because those weight less than a GTR qnd have no ATESA system causing excesive tire wear. Also the Evo's are designed for bad roads and mountain passes since those as well as Bunta's Subaru Impreza are rally cars, designed to win on dirt and tarmac.
The GTRs are bad cars for mountain roads, but not because they are 4wd, just because they are very heavy in general.
I doubt the GTT would be much better on a mountain than a GTR
The ATTESA ETS is only helpful. It's not a traditional 4WD system like an EVO or a WRX.
It distributes power to the front wheels based on the situation meaning if you don't need them, they aren't gonna get any power.
Simply put, around sweeping turns, the GTR is RWD and around tight turns, it sends a bit of power, depending on the conditions, to the front to help pull the front out of a corner.
On an R32 the front end is also heavier than the back which contributes to understeer.
A heavy twin turbo i6 is just difficult to move about.
Compare that to an EVO which has a transversely mounted i4 leaving next to no weight in front of the front axle.
The reason I think the GTT wouldn't do better is because it's less stiff, narrower, still quite heavy and can't use ATTESA ETS.
The r34 is just a really heavy car, which is why Hoshino's tyres degraded quickly and the car was skidding super wide.
@@lukygame Yep, exactly my point. Heavy for mountain = ☠️
The reason I said GTs were better is not for weight but for traction. Of course they need weight reduction or the tires will be worn fast.
And the ATTESA, you have a point. However, I am pointing at the 32's ATTESA, not 33's or 4's which was greatly improved.
I'm not trying to fight. Since I see you also know a thing or two. So, in any case. Good answer man.
@@anothernrg8274 yeah, no I'm not tryna fight either, just wanted to add to the conversation.
Kozo's strategy wasn't to beat Keisuke in 1st run and a half. He knew that with his capability with the accelerator that if it was one uphill pass only that Keisuke wouldn't stand a chance. And he was right. Keisuke couldn't get to the 7 second strategy to heat Kozo. Ryosuke stated that Kozo gave himself a handicap and Keisuke himself admits on the 2nd run that the gtr has better traction than the fd. The cone overtake was simply just plan b bc Kozo was trying to end the match in round 1.
Goat uploaded initial D
Thanks for uploading again, i hope you're okay , can't wait your reaction initial d fifth-final stage
Bro you should do a same type of compilation with your reactions to the best moments after you watched the whole show
on the arcade game of Initial D, a lap or a sprint race length is just around 5-7 minutes, so it's really short, take that as a measurement in anime
"Who wants to do all turns?" me......... lmao
When it comes to the jumps in the Blue MR2 race in Stage 3... This is not action movie stuff... This is purely rally stuff. Kogashiwa's MR2 was setup for this kind of driving. This happens IRL bro.
Kai's mrs is setup for high speed cornering instead of rally like the mr2
Would've been nice if they added more content. Hyped for the 1 hour vid tho haha
There are some new/different ost songs used in the races, I think.
if you enter the gutter at the entrance to the corner then it'll let you have fast entry speed and avoid understeering at those speeds, but it the side G forces will kick you out of the gutter at those speeds about halfway through the corner basically at the apex, but the 2nd gutter run lets Takumi drift into a corner normally and get into the gutter at the apex allowing him to stay in the gutter till the exit of the corner meaning he can start accelerating out of the corner while he's still in it, so the 1st is for fast entry speed and the 2nd is for faster exit speed and that's why using the 2nd gutter run vs Seiji in his white Evo 4 allowed the 86 to be faster on the straight even though he has less than half the horse power, he started accelerating much sooner than the Evo.
Now that you have watched this, I need you to react to the 3 Legend Movies. However I'd save that for the end of the show cause that is wayy above even final stage in style and grpahic quality. And also it could be fun to come back later to remember how the show started (note:They shorten the story in Legend movies and no more Eurobeat, but other than that they still good)
The thing about how short Usui seems in battle stage is funny, in reality it is one of if not the longest touge in the series
Yo bro I know u disappointed in the god arm race but trust me stage 5 and final stage will not disappoint, that win against god arm will help him in the future, you’ll see!
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15:14 The grin on my face when he said that. He has no idea what's coming
Hey Jay 😂I’m the guy from Hong Kong . Highly recommend you to watch the real life Hong Kong version of Initial D movie (2005) . The plot had changed a bit but they used actual cars and real drifting in that film .
I agree, the live action movie was pretty good 👍
the live action movie plot is horrible lmao, but the race is ok
@@sus-zu7wpthe live action film is one of those "it's so bad (that) it's so good" type of films as it tries to remain as unfaithful as possible to the original source material while still maintaining good acting and racing scenes. Jay should really watch it after watching the Legend Trilogy.
@@WakanaGojo86I feel like it'd be pointless to watch a live action if I already know what's gonna happen. Glad I still ended up watching it instead of being put off by the criticisms.
Let's go another upload
Honestly, I can understand why someone might not like the God Arm race ending. I thought Takumi was gonna lose that race. What I did hate is being left off on that ending for about 10 years until 5th stage 😒
(Edit) I forgot Battle Stage came out around 2002
Not really 10 years but 6 years for the next season to arrive is still a pathetic experience. But the animators had no other choice but to wait as the author was taking his sweet time to publish the next chapter. Thankfully MF Ghost might not have to go through this same issue considering that the manga is nearing its ending so MF Ghost Season 5 may air as soon as 2029
Any plan to react to stage 5 and final stage?
Music is Eurobeat?
FD > FC
That may be true now, but just wait for stage 5.
That's all imma say.
5th stage is kinda mid compared to others, exctept for a few moments. Its still worth a watch though
JAY!
From your opinions about Ryosuke's races and the God Arm race, it honestly looks like you don't like things that make you think lol. Both of them think like racing drivers, Drivers that are able to use their opponents weaknesses are usually the best. That's why both God Arm and Ryosuke's races were the finals of their seasons...
Btw... Your opinion of Ryosuke will change the next time he gets behind the wheel.
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