Studio allows you to have multiple files loaded in at once. I use it for correcting sync and balance. I can have all parts loaded in and take each chord and increase/decrease the volume of a note to fit better in the chord. Same for timing.
Educational. My 11yo daughter and I were amused by the extreme examples, but we also appreciated the subtler good example. It illustrates why there could be a lot of this going on in the community and we would never be the wiser.
I totally agree. I had no idea you could make such drastic changes. I'm an experienced singer, but have almost zero audio-technology experience. Great video!
I usually use both. Compression is no different than using the volume automation slider and changing different levels to make parts softer or louder to blend better. Compression literally just sets some parameters to do it automatically based on how loud you sang each part of the song. +/- some finer details. Reverb I often use but change the sound of it for every recording I do to fit with the atmosphere. Often times it's quite subtle. I typically don't want to sound like I'm in a cathedral.
When the first Melodyne bass track played, I was afraid I was an ignorant person who couldn't tell the differences. Glad to see that was just a test of sorts! Very interesting display, thanks for making this.
In my video "how to make multitrack recordings - beginner tutorial" I take a short barbershop tag and do it in a specific order. The order is not always the same but is affected by different things that appear in the sheet music to make it easier for me to sync up.
Just the editor. I don't really use it much so I don't think I have much use for the full Studio? I honestly don't know any of the capabilities of the full studio.
Can you show us what the Twinkle Twinkle Horrible Star would be like if you took the same phrase and adjusted it 4 times so that it had the correct melody and accompanying harmonies? I would be interested to hear what that would be like.
when i mess around with recording I don't think of it as me getting better. It's usually me just getting better at recording. It doesn't bother me unless they're selling the product with autotune and call it acapella.
Could of done the same thing with a 20-40 dim graphic QE. Remove all the frequencies that made it painful to listen to and boost the rest depending on how you wanted it to sound. Did the same thing on a sound desk this morning (with just high, mid, frequency and low dials) to harmonies several singers who sing at slightly different pitches.
Fascinating and again thank you for the demonstration. It still must be very difficult to get the parts in tune singing them separately. Do you record the parts in a particular order to make it easier?
I don't think I would want to use melodyne much ( just for chorus teach tracks). I did the barbershop me tag thing as an exercise and I just practiced as I would in quartet til ready to sing and then sang it straight into my recorder. Headphones in on just a couple of takes. Then I just uploaded it but putting the ad card into the computer. I didn't need to worry about levels and effects but I didn't know what it meant anyway. I just sang my lead a little louder.
I don't think anyone in Accent uses melodyne on our projects, we're all pretty adamant about not using pitch correction on that project (I'll occasionally use it on commercial stuff or stuff I'm mixing)
lol, my left headphone wire is broken, I'll have to listen later. FYI all of my music is completely free of pitch correction. Even if it's not perfectly on pitch, I prefer it to be natural. :)
Hi, I've watched both videos. In the first you say editing vocals is bad and in this second one you say how great this program is for editing vocals. It's a bit like having the best of both worlds, isn't it? ,) When you're really wavering like in the terrible-bass example, it's better to cut the blob and correct pitch manually by opt-drag with the pitch-tool. This way the overtones also will follow pitch and be natural and you can also adjust them manually with the formant-tool. Then you can correct the pitch-drift as well. You should't be getting such obvious phasing on corrections smaller than a couple of notes so you need to use slicing technique. I agree with your second opinion, it's a great software: I'd like to collab with you on a mulit-track where you do the higher and I do the lower bits. Different voices adds to the glory of the sound
I'm trying to promote practice rather than relying on software because it won't make you a better musician. However, every time you record a new take, it's practice tuning with yourself or anyone else. I'm saying bad singers will stay bad singers.
Great video Danny! This shows that AutoTune or Melodyne are just mere filters and can never, ever transform a terrible singer into someone of acceptable level.
What is your view on using effects like reverb and compression? I've noticed you never use either on your barbershop videos and was wondering where you stand with those
Is depressing to see how voices today are for the most totally corrected... above all on stupid commercial pop music. There were times where people like freddy mercury did real music, real art, without sound processing, without stupid effects that could make a lie of his voice. He was real, even with some imperfections that made him to be him, without falsity. Hate for the modern way to do music!
I watched both of these vids and I'm just trying to understand what you're trying to promote here. Are you saying programs shouldn't be used at all to really bring out certain overtones or that bad singers should just not sing?
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Studio allows you to have multiple files loaded in at once. I use it for correcting sync and balance. I can have all parts loaded in and take each chord and increase/decrease the volume of a note to fit better in the chord. Same for timing.
Educational. My 11yo daughter and I were amused by the extreme examples, but we also appreciated the subtler good example. It illustrates why there could be a lot of this going on in the community and we would never be the wiser.
I totally agree. I had no idea you could make such drastic changes. I'm an experienced singer, but have almost zero audio-technology experience. Great video!
I usually use both. Compression is no different than using the volume automation slider and changing different levels to make parts softer or louder to blend better. Compression literally just sets some parameters to do it automatically based on how loud you sang each part of the song. +/- some finer details. Reverb I often use but change the sound of it for every recording I do to fit with the atmosphere. Often times it's quite subtle. I typically don't want to sound like I'm in a cathedral.
Yes, with a click of a button (I didn't in the video), you can eliminate snapping to the grid, and adjust tracks by any number of cents you want.
When the first Melodyne bass track played, I was afraid I was an ignorant person who couldn't tell the differences. Glad to see that was just a test of sorts! Very interesting display, thanks for making this.
In my video "how to make multitrack recordings - beginner tutorial" I take a short barbershop tag and do it in a specific order. The order is not always the same but is affected by different things that appear in the sheet music to make it easier for me to sync up.
Hey Danny, can you do a video about some exercises to hold your notes longer? I've been wanting to work on it for years.
Just the editor. I don't really use it much so I don't think I have much use for the full Studio? I honestly don't know any of the capabilities of the full studio.
wait it goes stereo for the audio examples.
Can you show us what the Twinkle Twinkle Horrible Star would be like if you took the same phrase and adjusted it 4 times so that it had the correct melody and accompanying harmonies? I would be interested to hear what that would be like.
when i mess around with recording I don't think of it as me getting better. It's usually me just getting better at recording. It doesn't bother me unless they're selling the product with autotune and call it acapella.
Could of done the same thing with a 20-40 dim graphic QE. Remove all the frequencies that made it painful to listen to and boost the rest depending on how you wanted it to sound. Did the same thing on a sound desk this morning (with just high, mid, frequency and low dials) to harmonies several singers who sing at slightly different pitches.
Awesome, tnx for sharing such a nice musical work!!!
Fascinating and again thank you for the demonstration. It still must be very difficult to get the parts in tune singing them separately. Do you record the parts in a particular order to make it easier?
oh that's kinda cool
I don't think I would want to use melodyne much ( just for chorus teach tracks). I did the barbershop me tag thing as an exercise and I just practiced as I would in quartet til ready to sing and then sang it straight into my recorder. Headphones in on just a couple of takes. Then I just uploaded it but putting the ad card into the computer. I didn't need to worry about levels and effects but I didn't know what it meant anyway. I just sang my lead a little louder.
amazing. Thank you for this
I don't think anyone in Accent uses melodyne on our projects, we're all pretty adamant about not using pitch correction on that project (I'll occasionally use it on commercial stuff or stuff I'm mixing)
lol, my left headphone wire is broken, I'll have to listen later. FYI all of my music is completely free of pitch correction. Even if it's not perfectly on pitch, I prefer it to be natural. :)
left only for me too!
Hi, I've watched both videos. In the first you say editing vocals is bad and in this second one you say how great this program is for editing vocals. It's a bit like having the best of both worlds, isn't it? ,) When you're really wavering like in the terrible-bass example, it's better to cut the blob and correct pitch manually by opt-drag with the pitch-tool. This way the overtones also will follow pitch and be natural and you can also adjust them manually with the formant-tool. Then you can correct the pitch-drift as well. You should't be getting such obvious phasing on corrections smaller than a couple of notes so you need to use slicing technique. I agree with your second opinion, it's a great software: I'd like to collab with you on a mulit-track where you do the higher and I do the lower bits. Different voices adds to the glory of the sound
I don't want much use from melodyne, but I can see its value for correcting home made teach tracks. Which is the cheapest version do I need to get?
Yep
That's stuff OP
Yeah, you can thank Glee a lot for it being acceptable and expected.
words !
The link in the video to the "last video" (0:44) goes to a "Private" video; unwatchable....
Better. Perfect example of how it's still garbage in, garbage out. Also, do you just have Editor or do you have the full Studio as well?
I'm trying to promote practice rather than relying on software because it won't make you a better musician. However, every time you record a new take, it's practice tuning with yourself or anyone else. I'm saying bad singers will stay bad singers.
Great video Danny! This shows that AutoTune or Melodyne are just mere filters and can never, ever transform a terrible singer into someone of acceptable level.
What is your view on using effects like reverb and compression? I've noticed you never use either on your barbershop videos and was wondering where you stand with those
It's funny to hear those bad takes, especially with those lyrics lol it sounds so much more morbid :p
Is depressing to see how voices today are for the most totally corrected... above all on stupid commercial pop music. There were times where people like freddy mercury did real music, real art, without sound processing, without stupid effects that could make a lie of his voice. He was real, even with some imperfections that made him to be him, without falsity. Hate for the modern way to do music!
SHIFT+ volume, pls ;-)
Is this a mac program?
I watched both of these vids and I'm just trying to understand what you're trying to promote here. Are you saying programs shouldn't be used at all to really bring out certain overtones or that bad singers should just not sing?
Ps great video! You can really tell the difference when you edited them together, and during twinkle twinkle. Just horrid!