I think a very accurate and fair review of the JC5. I just bought one and had my first listen last night upgrading from a Parasound A21. Jesus does this amplifier sound fantastic. Your description of the amp falling between the Bryston amp sound and the McIntosh amp sound is accurate. For me it has the right amount of richness without too much and the resolution and detail are top notch.
I heard it needs a good long time to "burn in". I own the Halo A31 right now. I have been wondering how much difference the sound might be with the JC 5. aka Is it worth the $$$ since I already own a Parasound amp. From what you've written the answer is yes!
Hey Douglas. So far, Parasound owners seem to agree that the jump is quite noticeable! As for break-in: Take this for whatever you feel it's worth, but the JC5 sounds great out of the box. To be honest, I didn't notice much of a change as I put more hours on it. Funnily enough however, the two speakers that I have in for review right now require an unreal amount of 'break in', and the differences are stupidly obvious. This hobby is crazy. :)
hey @Elton J. Crim Jr. Ph.D. or @Paul Bielen, could you please describe how the JC5 steps up from the A21 ? I do not doubt it does, I am looking for details. Nice review Zero Fidelity. Thanks in advance.
As a satisfied owner of a Parasound A21, I must say the only feature that I don’t care for are the gain pots on the rear. The Parasound amps that incorporate these gain pots have a reputation for the pots to eventually malfunction. Occasionally when I’m starting a listening session the soundstage will be off due to the right channel being 5 db lower than the left channel. This is from the gain pot. After I do a full rotation of the pot. The balance is restored. Great amps, but JC was right in not wanting to include the gain pots.
I have the A21 and it is an amazing amp. But, I listened to the JC 5 In my rig (my dealer let me borrow it) and now I can't unhear it. Now I have to get the JC 5. It is everything you said and more! I have heard plenty of other amps costing a lot more, the JC 5 smoked them all! John Curl is the man!
I must give credit where credit is due. I was unhappy with your review of the debut Buchardt speakers and mentioned as such but your review of the JC5 is excellent but possibly selling it a little short! A bona fide high end amp for sure, I am burning one in now based in part on your review (thank you). A bit too forward and unrefined sounding out of the box but after 60 hours the sound is all my picky ears could ask for. Unbelievable midrange transparency and refinement with power to get very loud, it transformed my Spendor tower speakers into loaded horns! And yes, it does sound fantastic at low volume levels. Effortless power and an uncanny contrast to the volume levels of different instruments and musical elements. All in, thanks again ! Peace.
Thanks also for discussing the differences between the overall sound of the Parasound, Bryston & McIntosh Amplifiers. I have not seen another such discussion anywhere online. This is important to me because I am upgrading my Parasound P6 Preamplifier to either a Parasound JC-2PB or a McIntosh C49. Both are said to be fine performers but they sound somewhat different as you have mentioned here. I will be using a McIntosh MC152 Power Amplifier to pair with one of these preamps.
Mine is on its way to me right now..... We had to wait a little bit in the UK...... BUT I know the wait will be worth it... Had good dependable performance from my A51...... Incredible engineering and delivered at a fantastic price.
@@ZeroFidelity cheers.... Straight and fair review of a nicely designed and well constructed component that really does perform ....great video (helps that I agree) 😊... Great job.
very nice video / i also have the the parasound jc5 and the preamp as well, just one word WOW.... now i am selling the parasound A21 amp ($1200) to for my bill. very happy with my buy.
After designing Parasound Halo A-21, this is the one which John Curl put his signature on … I still enjoy the excellent sound of A-21 … and one can still find Halo 21 (AB class) amplifier in the market at a reasonable price …
Maso I bought a used A21 for $1375 eight months ago, and $700 for a used P5 pre-amp. I’m satisfied for a bit over $2000. And I get 400 wpc thru 4 ohm towers that cost more than the amp/pre-amp. If you don’t have to own the latest thing, you can save a lot of money buying used.
Wow! Very nice review. Well done and thanks so much for posting. I have a JC2 BP and recently got the new A21+ to pair with it, and it sounds amazing. Couldn't quite make the leap to the JC5, but it is on my "someday" list :). Would love to see/hear your impressions of the A21+.
What a great review. I have had the Parasound A23 power amp for about a year now and I'm loving it. I'm currently saving up to buy the new Parasound P6 preamp. With my experience with Parasound so far I would have no problem buying any products from them. I would love to buy this amp and would in a heart beat if I had the money.
I've been toying with the idea of buying a JC5 for heavy lifting when my Moon 600i v2 doesn't cut it. This helped seal the deal, thank you for the review.
1. John Curl should be on the mount Rushmore for Amp designers. 2. The CTC Blowtorch too. 3. Halo has a cool, tasteful design. I dig it. I'm not into "busy" looking gear.
I owned a Bryston 4B years ago, but there Intergrated Amps have gotten too expensive plus everything is at an additional cost such as remote control phono etc. The Bryston was bullet proof I have to say and resale was great. I've stated why I'm intrested in the Hint 6 and Anthem STR. If I'm financially able I'm leaning towards the Anthem it's $2000 more than the Parasound. Getting the Hint 6 leaves more cash to put towards speakers. I won't pull the trigger till I've listened to both and get more input from people such as yourself. Thanks again for your prompt reply to my initial question. Have a great day and keep up with the great channel.
Great video and review. I clearly believe that this is one of the best amps on the market. With working in Class A for the first several watts, this is a magical amp. I personally would love to own this amp but its $1,000 higher than a price my wife would approve of. So I actually went with the Mac MC152 amp. However if I am not blown away by it, I would strongly consider getting the Parasound A21+ which is similar to the JC5 but perhaps a little more on the neutral sounding for only $3,500. For the JC5 to be made in Taiwan at this price point is surprising. You would think it would cost less with being made overseas. The Mac MC152 is $5,000 and its made in New York
I love the McIntosh MC152 so I am staying with it. it's not a colored as the McIntosh of old. it has a clear detailed sound that has some slight warmth. I think the Parasound is right up there with McIntosh however.
I bought a mint pair of the almighty JC-1’s! They were were on Stereo Review Components list for 16 straight yrs! My spks are 4 ohm so I get a little over 800 watts a side! I’ll be looking for the Big Parasound. 17:07 5 channel 17:3917:4417:4617:5617:56 😊 for my center/rears! 18:15
I bought a mint pair of the almighty JC-1’s! They were were on Stereo Review Components list for 16 straight yrs! My spks are 4 ohm so I get a little over 800 watts a side! I’ll be looking for the Big Parasound. 17:07 5 channel 17:39 for my center/rears!
Taiwan is not China or Malaysia. Labor laws are strict, wages are very high. In fact, GDP per capita in Taiwan is higher than in Japan and among the highest in the developed world. They do have state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities there and the raw materials like steel, copper and aluminum cost 70% less than what they do in US or Euope. You wouldn't be able to buy all the parts for what they can have the whole thing made there. I have Bryston amplifiers but from what I've seen, Parasound is on the same level, if not higher. The sound is a matter of preference but I'd never think of Parasound as something inferior on the account of it being made in Asia. Cheers!
Hi Shawn, Thanks for another wonderful review. I purchased Parasound New Classic 2250 and 5250 amps about 9 years ago and loved the quality and performance they brought to the table. In November, 2018 I replaced those amps with Parasound Halo A21 and A52+ amplifiers. I got a great deal on the A21 as an end of life product and could not be happier. Both amps perform much better than my old New Classic amps. This is especially true in the lower registers where bass is so much more defined and articulate. The mid-range changes where subtle but noticeable while the upper registers are now more open and transparent. In short I’m happy to see someone highlighting many strong attributes or the Parasound line of products! In my mind it is tough to beat the price to performance value Parasound offers throughout their entire offerings. While I can’t justify $6000.00 on a new amp right now.... Maybe a little down the road??
Great video, great amplifier. I have used Parasound for quite a while now, great build quality, and performance. Depending on which speakers I have in my system at a specific time, I use a Halo A23, or A21 paired with a Halo P3 pre-amplifier. Would love to be able to hear that behemoth JC5!
I just wanted to take a moment to recognize the value that you bring to the community, Hi-Fi Haven. I don't how it's even possible, but I see you commenting on damn near every hi-fi related video that I come across - and not once have I ever seen you be anything less then positive, enthusiastic, and respectful. This is the type of behavior that keeps a positive vibe resonating throughout the community. So thank you for, well.. being you!
Sean, great in depth review as always (history lesson appreciated too)! With this kind of price range $6Gs for the JC5 in the works, I'm thinking a review with the Hegel H20 power amp with the same price tag may be a great comparison. I think your boy John Darko has been talking about how great they sound lately on the Hegel front so would love to see your take on it if you happen to get your hands on one! As always, keep 'em coming man! PS: those AQ interconnects working out solid! 👌
Hi Sean, Could you do a review on PS Audio BHK (the stereo unit) and compare it to the JC5? I know is being a year since you did this one. I am in the market for something like this. I have the PS Audio stack, as you called it, but I want to move away from class D. Thank you so much. Ps: I'm getting the Buchardt S400. Your review was paramount on that matter.
Great review, just after I bought a new A21 for $1800 Canadian (on sale after the release of the A21+). It is better than my old Hegel H160 at dynamics and soundstaging, more authoritative at those moments in a song where the bass needs speed and control AND delineation. Thanks to you Sean I am now wondering if I should have stretched for the JC5! Hopefully my Bitcoin gamble pays off (bought big at $3000).
@@mtube620 i got it from a guy in manitoba canada, im in vancouver canada, send me your email to mike.mityok@gmail.com and i will put you in contact with him, but fyi i got that deal AFTER having bought an expensive pair of pmc floorstanders from him, so no promises he will give you the exact deal he gave me
Hi! Thank you for the review. I have a pair of Focal Aria 948 and I run them with a Pioneer combo from the 90s. The c73/m73 pre and power. I also have the svs 1000 sub, just to add a little more on the low side. My auditions are low to moderate and I was wondering if changing to Parasound a21+ or a23+ will give me that wow change, to say so. The 23+ is more on the budget, but if 21+ will give a much better sound, I will rethink the budget. :) What would you recommend? I would really appreciate it. Of course, the preamp will follow, probably the P6. Thank you!
Hi...great review. Question. How would the JC5 compare vs the newer A21+? Considering both for a 2 channel room with Martin Logan CLX speakers. Thx! Great channel btw. :)
I think Sean got the "loop" feature incorrect.... It's for bi-amping each speaker vertically, in which you will need two amps. One for each channel, right and left. So you will have one amp's channel's covering the highs and lows of the right side and the other amp covering the left side.
The Michi X5 Series 2 integrated with MM and MC phono and upgraded DAC retails for 7k, only 1k more than this piece, and puts out more power; with the JC5 I then need the P6 pre and JC 3+ phono plus 2 additional interconnect cables; does this 3 piece stack better than the x5 series 2 integrated? Thank you in advance for your candor.
The gain level is also great if you are bi-amplifying your speakers. The gain can also be useful if your left and right speakers are not egually.set in the room or the room acoustics are uneven.
I found this video interesting because in essence you described my Sansui 8080db! Yeah, about 1973, that Sansui. The synergy I have right now in that system is nothing short of stellar! In fact, the performance you described comes remarkably close to my Sansui! (By the way, I am likely the only one who is not a fan of McIntosh gear). Here's the thing, I have talked with manufactures of high-end amps that run in the $10k to $15k range and they are familiar with the old Sansui db line and all of them said to me that in order for me to find an amp today that comes close to sounding like my Sansui I would have to spend at least $10k. A couple also said that they wish they had one. It's not that Sansui alone made the best sounding integrated amps (receivers are technically integrated amps) back then, but part of the reason they sounded so good along with some other brands back then was the build. I noticed that you pointed out the parts used in the Parasound JC5 and recognized the old school origin. I think this is in part why the Parasound sounds the way you described. I am going to be looking for an amp for my reference system in progress, which is the final piece and it is too bad the JC5 is $6000 as I can never run to that, not even close. It also tells me that finding a new amp for the bigger system is not going to be easy. As for "audiophiles" (present company excepted), other reviewers and the like not liking it because it is "only $6000" in their world.....screw them! They wouldn't know good sound and quality if you threw all 75 lbs of the amp and crushed their faces with it.
Hell yeah man! I love vintage Sansui gear. Just give me a beer, a good vintage Sansui setup, and a record spinning some classic rock n' roll... and I'll be all smiles. The 8080db looks awesome! Would love to hear one at some point. Just as I'd love to one day restore my parents old Sansui stereo receiver, which I really liked even as a kid. Speaking of vintage pieces, the Fisher 400 is a beast! I also have fond memories of my first tube amp, a mint Dynakit ST35. Good stuff! As for reviewers liking it... it seems that most of the manufacturers and reviewers who hear the JC5 end up buying it, and/or really wanting to. I suppose I'll be added to that list. :D
Careful, once you hear something like a Sansui 8080db, you start questioning everything else. (If my suspicions are correct that Parasound JC5 has likely given you at least a taste of that). Things were just made differently back then and / or perhaps for a different reason as well. (Perhaps Parasound recognizes that and is trying to emulate it, which is wonderful). My Sansui has me worried right now since I recently replaced my near end of life DCM TF-600s with a new pair of Paradigm Monitors S6000F and started breaking them in playing a bunch of CDs and vinyl and having imaging such as I have not heard in shows or anywhere on systems up to six figures! It currently smashes my reference system in progress! The synergy between the speakers, Marantz CD player, equally vintage Pioneer TT and the Sansui is unbelievable, not to mention unexpected. The image has such breadth and depth that I feel as though I could walk around in it, not to mention the detail as well. As for reviewers, I was talking about the ones who won't look at anything under $10k and are complete snobs and in it just for fame or something. We all know who they are too. Of course, you would be the exception to that rule Sean. Me? I'd add myself to the list of those wanting to buy the JC5, but I can't afford it. I actually don't want to hear one either because I fear I will want it even though I can't afford it. Parasound just makes good stuff, period and they have been consistent about that too.
I'm guessing that if there is any correlation in sound between the 8080db and the JC5, the connection is more by coincidence than purpose. That said, it sounds like the Sansui is a sweet amp. Glad it's getting some luv at Casa Del Elliott!
Oh, no doubt Sean! Same with the synchronicity in my Sansui system, total unplanned coincidence. All I did was get some new speakers and transfer my CD player from my other system. I had no idea what I was in for = the holy grail of surprises for any audio or music enthusiast.
Hmm, I am going to be in market soon for an amp for my reference system and while I can't afford the JC5 and am torn between integrated or separates, it is max budget for me, but I'm looking seriously at the Halo Hint 6 integrated. You should do a review on that too.
Would you recommend this amplifier or the Macintosh MC 152? They’re basically the same price the Mack will hold its value much better. I think it looks much cooler but it’s all about the sound quality right
I would say your description of this amp falls inline with most any Halo series models. Just a sweet sound, I have the P7, A21 and I’ll put that combo against many amps costing multiple times more. I have experienced other amps described as having "more detail in the high end” imo, more is not necessarily better. As to your comment about some self proclaimed audiophiles turning their noses up to Parasound amps cos they’re too low priced and as such, referring to Parasound as Mid-Fi, is totally insane. From what Ive seen of the audiophile crowd, they’re the ones insane.
Aaaaaw, and I JUST came home from my dealer (last of the brick and mortar stores here in MA.) with a brand new A-21 and P6 preamp and a pair of ESL-9's and Kimber balanced interconnects for them. UNboxing over this weekend. (Feb. 8, 2020). For me, something TOTALLY DIFFERENT from my beloved Klipschorns and Dynaco Mark 3's and PAS-2 preamp... ((O: Change is GOOD right ???
@@user-ex9zm7bg3x Congrats on tubes and horns! I have Kliipsch Forte' 4 pair in my living room setup with a complete Bang and Olufsen Beogram 6500 system from 1990. I have an R8 as well, outfitted with rolled (9) tubes made by JJ. electronics which includes EL-34 outputs. Believe it or not, the B&O has a warmer sound for SS of back in the day! Just did the experiment yesterday!, so the R8 went back in the main listening room. You never know until you try different things together, the results can be surprising and not always in a good way. Back in the audio showroom, the A-21 and P6 still sound wonderful with the Martin Logans, it never gets old 😊.
I am a long-term owner of an A21 and I just purchased the JC 5. Boy, do these two amps sound different. The A21 is relatively laid back sounding, but the JC 5 is in your face! Everything sounds like you are sitting on the front row. At first, I wasn't sure that I preferred the JC 5. Although it has superior detail and dynamic slam, I also felt that it produced more listening fatigue. I also noticed that the JC 5 has higher gain than the A21. I have reconfigured the system with better cables, speaker wire, and power source, and now I am not sure which I prefer. The JC 5's sound has improved. I don't know if this is because of the improved connections or just that it has had a chance to break in. I am going to gain match the two and then compare again. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has had experience with both and their impressions. 1. Does the JC 5 require break-in to sound its best, and if so then how much? 2. Do the balanced inputs sound better than the unbalanced? 3. Are your impressions of the difference between the two amps similar to mine?
You posted some months ago about the JC5 sound, has your impression of the amp changed since you got it compared to the A21? I like relaxed sound vs in your face.
A great amp is one that doesn't color your sound in the slightest, any coloring to the sound is left up to the listener. So all good amps should sound the same, if you have an amp that don't then it's not a amp you'd want to use.
Some questions: are those volume (attenuation) controls or controls for amplifier *gain*, and they don’t track? Won’t there be channel mismatch? What does the quieter/louder setting for the turn on threshold do? And what do you mean by ‘voicing’ in an amplifier? I understand ‘voicing’ loudspeakers with the crossover but never heard it when discussing amplifiers. Thanks.
To answer your questions: 1) The knobs are simple gain controls that you adjust manually. Matching isn't an issue provided you line things up properly. 2) When your amplifier is in 'standby' mode, it will 'wake up' once it detects signal coming to it. The JC5, as I understand it, has a fairly low threshold so it won't take a lot of signal to turn it on. Turn-on options gives you some flexibility to adjust that, which is honestly something on custom-installers will likely use. 3) Every product has a unique performance envelope. When it comes to voicing an amplifier, you can do this numerous ways: Feedback, gain, circuit type, output and input transformer type, output capacitance bank and type, input stage design and parts choice, etc etc.. It's a big reason why Curl went with Toshiba FET transistors for the input section. You can find other measurably great JFET's out there, but those vintage Toshibas have a unique sound that you just cant find anywhere else... Not that I've heard at least! Anyways, I hope this helped.
The ‘gain’ controls are almost certainly input attenuators and hv nothing to do with amplifier gain, otherwise the user is changing the loop gain and phase margin. No way that is occurring here, he should hv called them ‘level’ or something. To me, voicing is done in crossovers to introduce a peak or dip in the lower or upper midrange to give the speaker a certain characteristic sound or compensate a driver’s response. An amplifier is flat within +/- 0.1 dB in the passband and therefore is not ‘voiced’ in the traditional sense. I’ve seen enough JC’s posts on diyaudio to know that he’s a jfet fan but I doubt that one manufacturer of jfet has significant differences from another vendor, especially for an input stage. It’s a square law device and you can’t magically make the fet more ‘linear’. Solid state physics. Sorry but I hv my doubts. More likely to hear differences due to amplifiers behavior when driving complex loads (output stage design) and/or its power supply capability (i.e. capacitance multiplier or fully regulated supply rails). Maybe difficult to see by looking at the internals, easier to see in a schematic.
Sounds like JC would need to answer these questions for you. I don't have direct access to the man himself. Will respond if I'm able to provide sufficient answers directly from the folks who built the product.
Nice review. I have a question for you. I am putting together a 2 channel stereo system. I have narrowed it down to two Intergrated Amps the Parasound Hint 6 and the Anthem STR I'd like your opinion on which to good with. My room is 13" X15"X 8" open on one side and opens into a dining room. I listen at moderate to loud levels. The speakers are going to be either GE Triton 2+ or MA Silver 500 my musical taste is largely classic rock and blues. Thanks in advance for your input.
Hey Mario, I'm afraid I won't be able to provide you with much help. I haven't heard the latest Parasound integrated, nor have I listened to any of the recent Anthem components. It's a shame, because I genuinely like some of the recent-vintage pieces from both companies. Real good stuff. That said... If the new gear sounds anything like the old, then I'd wager the Parasound Hints ballsy, grittier sound may form a good match with Monitor Audio's inherently light and agile character. Meanwhile, Anthem has always had this smooth and refined presentation for the money. This leads me to believe that they would do a great job complimenting Golden Ears inherently powerful, if not somewhat forward way of projecting sound. To be clear, I'd encourage you to apply pounds of salt to what I just said as I'm relying exclusively on past memories of recent-vintage integrated amps. Good luck in the hunt!
Both amps are clean as is great resolution. The Parasound stays in that middle ground with a hint of warmth that I tend to prefer. The STR amp is very neutral. I would suggest deciding on speakers first then listening to amps with the speakers you select if you are near a place that will let you do a home demo. I would also suggest you listen to the Prestige 85 F speakers. I think that middle series of speakers is outstanding.
Thank you very much for your input and suggestions. I've heard the GE Triton 2+ with Marantz AVR and liked it a lot. I also heard the MA Silvers, but not the 500 I like them both though the Tritons seem a bit more complete and easier to listen to the MA might become fatiguing after a while. Money wise the Parasound and Monitor Audio combo is the more affordable way to go. I like the looks on the Anthem though. Will let you know when I pull the trigger either way. Again thank you very much sir.
If you already sense the potential for fatigue, I would pay attention to that. I would suggest ( humbly) that sound qualities be the guide. I tend to gravitate toward warm organic sound that’s dynamic but involving. If you could close your eyes and listen all night you’re there.
Mr. Crim I you would be of great service if you would get your own channel. I remember when I had considerable more disposable income and read and heard so much about the Wilson Watt Puppies. I auditioned them and as impressive as they were at first. After about a half hour of my preferred listening taste. My ears felt like they were going to bleed. I decided to go with Genesis 300s My preferred listening is moderately to loud and like impact with detail, but as it is often said for the music and performance to transport me to the event. Thank you again for your much appreciated input. Have a wonderful day.
Greetings from the future. I would like to know how this compares to pair of Schiit Tyrs. And for that matter, a single Vidar! Which is my current benchmark 😅 Thanks!
It's heavier than schiit 😜 Couldn't resist. I dunno how they compare though. I bought the a21+ week or so ago and it's impressed me so much I'm already looking up and wondering if I plunge into the jc5 immediately(ish)
I.......must........resist!! Lol. Have the A21, P5 and JC3+, and I’m a huge fan of Parasounds Halo line and CTC builders. This is incredible stuff and priced right. And more than fairly. Love that they got rid of the little red P light on this JC5 amp. Thanks for the worlds first detailed review of this fantastic amp!
hey at that price it should have the classic needle metering, left/right stepped volume controls with big knobs and left/right clipping indicators. then it would be perfect
Another tier. Lower noise floor. Image separation. Balance. Sense of scale/fullness. The JC5 is where you start entering the 'It's beginning to sound real' territory. Now to be fair, the Zonemaster 2350 may not compete in overall sound quality, but it does match the JC5 in terms of delivering a low noise floor and isn't embarrassed when it comes to raw power output.
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks for your response, I wonder how it will sound hooked up to my tekton impact monitors, or klipsch rf-7 3s. Currently I have a ati signature series amp now, but haven't hooked it up yet.
If you're coming from an ATI Sig, then dude... I think your pants would fly off the moment you connect a JC5 to those Klipsch RF-7's. That could be a wickedly awesome combo!
@@ZeroFidelity especially with the 100rms watts more per channel.I definitely would like to purchase a jc5 amp soon. Have you heard the ati signature series amp yet? They have many great reviews.
Hey Daniel. To be entirely honest, I cannot remember if it was a Signature amp or not. What I can tell you is that the owner who brought the ATI to my place was *extremely confident* that it was going to school the gear that I had at the time. While it wasn't bad per-say, they learned the same lesson that everyone whose come both before and after learned - there is rarely such a thing as a giant killer, and that you get what you pay for. And just like everybody whose come before and after, the experience ultimately cost them a lot of money afterwards. ;) That being said, sometimes you certainly can pay less and get more, although that's a bit more situation dependent.
There are already mods out for this thing? Crazy. That said, I'd caution anyone to mod their new $6,000 amp, as that's all but guaranteed to bust the warranty. Having actually worked on some expensive gear on a professional level, I can tell you that it's usually pretty easy to spot when someone tampered with the product.
Horses for courses! Bryston monos retail for a lot more than the JC5, and if you can beat John Curl at his own game.. you need to jump into the business. :)
Great review, I have Klipsch RP280F front speakers would JC 5 be a over kill for the Klipsch. I am currently using a Anthem MCA 325 to drive them would there be a improvement and would it be audible?
Yes, a big overkill with the 280f's. I mean, the 280f would sing their best, but the jc5 deserves alot more😉 280f is my reserve speakers when I change out my main speakers and have to wait for the new ones, and iv played the jc5 with those and its sound amazing. I now use the jc5 with the jbl hdi 3800 and its perfect
Taiwan is not China i suggest you talk to Richard Schram about their quality control in the factory where they are made and you will come away with a different perspective. Also see on RUclips Richard Schram and John Curl discuss amplifiers by Century Stereo CA it goes for 1:29:38 this might enlighten you.
It's finally time: Parasound just announced the JC1+ !!! I know it's a big ask given how busy you are (and how willing Parasound is,) but I would LOVE you to compare this to the new JC1+ monos. I'm especially curious if the JC1+ can do as good or better than the JC5 at both high and low volume levels... or if it's a waste of money to buy two JC1+ monos if you're just getting similar performance as the JC5 (which would be shocking but good to know if true.)
I would replace the P6 first. Get a tube preamp, it changes everything. I had your setup, and went to a Primaluna Evo 400 and OMG. At the very least, if you are using the internal dac and phono amp, upgrade that first. I went from using a laptop into the back of the P6 with a usb cable to a Innuos streamer, and a good dac, and it was a hell of an improvement. But the tube preamp topped it off by a lot. JC5 is next. Then I am done. I really mean it.
@@jeffsykes1195 did you ever ditch the a21+ for a jc5? I'm using an old integrated for pre so thinking a minidsp SHD as pre to get something transparent but your prima tube pre sounds very interesting.
Shawn, I don't know how many times I would have watched this video. I really would need your help choosing my final amplifier. Between the JC5 and Passlabs INT250. Both have 20-30 watts of class A. I listen to Classic Rock, Dance-Electronic music. Please review INT125 / give me that word of wisdom as always. You're the best. Cheers
Greetings from Malta ! Great review ! You have no idea how much it means to guys like me who does not have the luxury to visit a Hifi store and listen to this high end gear, can I ask you what pre amp are you using. Is the the matching JC 2 BP the best pre amp option? Kind regards and keep up the good work! Daniel
Hi. Would you think this amplifier will work fine with a mcintosh C52 preamp or any similar mcintosh pre? Please let me know your opinion. Thanks in advanced.
One of the things I loved about my PS Audio Elite Plus integrated amp was they moved the transformer into a separate box with a nice heavy cable connecting it to the unit itself. It made the unit itself easier to move, a lot of the weight was in that transformer, and it isolated any noise the transformer might make from the main unit's electronics.
Hi Shawn, Thanks for another informative review. I have a question for you and any viewers who want to provide their informed opinions. I own a Parasound Halo A52+ 5 amplifier..John Curl design. I have a new pair of Totem Tribe Tower Speakers arriving very soon. I listen at low-moderate sound levels. ( I listen to Folk, jazz, Folk-rock, country/Americana) *Do you think that this pairing will create an enjoyable listening experience?
I appreciate the suggestion. I could probably talk them into sending me the new Hint 6 for a review in 2019. Getting an older unit may be a bit more tricky though. Perhaps I could convince Ron from New Record Day to send me his.
I've been drooling over this, ever since I first saw it at the Parasound website a while ago. Maybe someday I can get one used. But I don't know. Even that would probably be too much IMO. What this really gets me thinking about is trying some of their other gear. Like that big Class D one you reviewed a while back, especially since I recently grabbed a Breeze Audio TPA3116 off the Bay, and frikkin love that little thing. But maybe a used Halo might be nice too, and cost much less. We'll see. I'm about to wipe out my savings, and go into a little bit of debt even. It's time for another car unfortunately. I used to love buying cars, until I got into this hobby, but now it's killing me handing over the money. When I would much rather be spending it on my system. It will be nice driving a car that works properly though. Anyway. Thanks for the video man. I've been itching for this one ever since you let on you had it in, and it didn't disappoint at all. I think that is one really sweet piece, and I agree with you about the deal thing. If it really does compete with the big boys, then it's a frikkin steal. Period! I'm very impressed, and the way you described the sound makes me think I would love this amp. Plus it's just a big beautiful beast of an amp. I hope they sell well. So they'll stay around for a few, and then hopefully we'll start seeing them on the used market at decent prices. This one is definitely on my short list. I mean, it seems like one of those "last amp I'll ever buy" amps even. And personally I love that they built it overseas, because otherwise I would never, ever get a chance of they built it in the states. At least now. I could actually save up for it. Of course if I did actually do that. I would have to have it custom painted camouflage, to hide it from the old lady. 😁 Thanks again man. Great review. I really hope Parasound thinks so, because so far I've really enjoyed the reviews of their gear you've done. And I want to see more too. You've definitely got me wanting to try one of their amps. That's for sure.
Thanks for the comments, Scott. The JC5 is the real deal. So is the JC2BP for that matter. Suffice to say, I hope I can hold onto this gear for just a little bit longer. :)
@@ZeroFidelity I actually forgot to mention about the keeping the thing. First thing I thought of when I started the video is that I was glad it wasn't me reviewing it, because having to send this back would kill me a little inside. Lol And yes that preamp is suhweet! You see all the work in the power supplies, and the attention to detail, and immediately think black background and great dynamic range. Just amazing gear. Are you going to review the preamp too? As for the cars. I'm basically over the car thing. I buy very practical cars nowadays. That being said though. If I had more money. Forget about it. I love my cars. Actually doing this car shopping has me thinking about buying a nice 2nd car/toy. I use my car for work. So I need cheap, and practical, which means economical 4 cylinder basically. But I was noticing some nice cars cheap out there. Nothing crazy, but you can get a 250-300hp, or so V6 rear/all wheel drive Infinity, or Cadillac from the early to mid 00's for about $5000. In good shape, and without crazy high miles either. It would be nice to go for rides with my girl in, and just play around with in general. But the insurance, and me living in a condo, where I would need to keep it somewhere else makes that tough. Saving up 4 or 5 grand isn't that hard, but paying for it continously makes it tough to justify really. Cars are just basically money pits/liabilities. Unless you use them to make money, like I do. But they are definitely fun.
The last thing I want to do is to send this combo back. I actually plan on creating a separate video about this, as this is the first time (in a long time) that I've actually been content with a dedicated stereo rig. As for cars: Dude, I was bitten by that bug rather hardcore a couple years ago. My last vehicle was a 17' Mustang GT with some work done to it. Loved that beautiful race red / black accent package pony. I ended up letting it go because I had nowhere to park it and didn't have enough discipline to NOT upgrade the vehicle. A money pit for sure... but damn it can be lots of fun!
@@ZeroFidelity Nice can't wait to see the video. And the Mustangs are so nice. You know how nice they are, when you see everyone on the net talking smack about them. Because they're jealous. 🤣🤣🤣
IDK, $6000 is more than my whole system is worth. Point of diminishing returns. Can't see spend that much money on an amp. What $12,000 for speakers another $5-6 grand for a pre- amp. I'll stay with my gear which sounds really good.
Just bought one using with a pair of Thiel CS3.7’s. The bass went to awesome and floored me. This guy is I really onto it. The expensive amps cost so much because of the expensive visual stuff and not the internals.
hey Paul, you commented earlier that the JC5 replaced an A21 for you and that it is a noticeable improvement. Would you mind decribing in a bit more details where and how the JC5 improves ? Also, how hot does it run, if at all ? Thank you.
Casper White The lower bass just opened up a lot as well as mid bass. I had the JC1’s as well and since I repeat some music over and over, aka ocd, it was a profound difference, even compared to my Mac 601’s. It gets no where hot as the JC1’s
@@oleksiifilippov68 He basically complained that Parasound used the same casing as the A21 and the amp looked plain. The JC5 sits and collects dust in his home because it's not as exciting as other premium amps he has access to. If I had to interpret what he was saying, it's basically that the JC5 is a jack of all trade and a master none (essentially a boring amp). I actually think his review in this video is the more accurate assessment of the amp. My system includes Primaluna preamp, Luxman SACD, PS Audio Phono, but the JC5 is my best looking piece. I was having thoughts of trading in my JC5 and Primaluna preamp for Luxman's top of the line integrated and my dealer thought the combo I had was better than the Luxman. I agreed with him after I listed to the Luxman. My JC5 combo sounded warmer, less metallic and had a smoother top end extension. Listening to the Luxman made me realize that the JC5 is a relatively warm sounding amp.
@@arize84 thanks for taking time to reply! It’s still the only separate I can afford and that is presumably to my taste. It should be quite impressive from what I heard/read! Searched for a separate just because I want tubes somewhere in my system. And the preamp seems to be the right place.
@@arize84 pretty cool system by the way! It’s a lot of flexibility if you want to experiment with the sound. Just curious, what model is your preamp? And what speakers do you use?
@@oleksiifilippov68 Primaluna Evo 300; if I had to do it over, I would have gotten the Evo 400. I really think the JC5 sounds better with balanced interconnects. My speakers are monitor Audio PL 100II (their current platinum bookshelfs). The speakers are very easy to work it; they are not fussy about placement, have a lot of bass, and do well with all kinds of music (these are not specialist speakers). They are not bright at all (which suits my taste).
I purchased the JC5 a few weeks ago. I play it a couple hours at a time 3-4 a week. Was curious if break in is a real thing for this amp and is there any consensus on how long. 100hrs etc...
There is definitely a breaking period. It sounds a tad thin and analytical out the box but break in wasn't long. I think mine settled after a week or 2.
I think a very accurate and fair review of the JC5. I just bought one and had my first listen last night upgrading from a Parasound A21. Jesus does this amplifier sound fantastic. Your description of the amp falling between the Bryston amp sound and the McIntosh amp sound is accurate. For me it has the right amount of richness without too much and the resolution and detail are top notch.
Congrats! Yup, it really is a fantastic amp.
This is a great amp. I have 2 A21, THis JC5 amp is no comparison JC5 rocks
I heard it needs a good long time to "burn in". I own the Halo A31 right now. I have been wondering how much difference the sound might be with the JC 5. aka Is it worth the $$$ since I already own a Parasound amp. From what you've written the answer is yes!
Hey Douglas. So far, Parasound owners seem to agree that the jump is quite noticeable! As for break-in: Take this for whatever you feel it's worth, but the JC5 sounds great out of the box. To be honest, I didn't notice much of a change as I put more hours on it. Funnily enough however, the two speakers that I have in for review right now require an unreal amount of 'break in', and the differences are stupidly obvious. This hobby is crazy. :)
hey @Elton J. Crim Jr. Ph.D. or @Paul Bielen, could you please describe how the JC5 steps up from the A21 ? I do not doubt it does, I am looking for details. Nice review Zero Fidelity. Thanks in advance.
You’re the only guy i can trust on RUclips when reviewing audio, great review as always.
Your reviews deserve more views - Great information and opinion backed by experience. Good stuff!
As a satisfied owner of a Parasound A21, I must say the only feature that I don’t care for are the gain pots on the rear. The Parasound amps that incorporate these gain pots have a reputation for the pots to eventually malfunction. Occasionally when I’m starting a listening session the soundstage will be off due to the right channel being 5 db lower than the left channel. This is from the gain pot. After I do a full rotation of the pot. The balance is restored. Great amps, but JC was right in not wanting to include the gain pots.
I have the A21 and it is an amazing amp. But, I listened to the JC 5 In my rig (my dealer let me borrow it) and now I can't unhear it. Now I have to get the JC 5. It is everything you said and more! I have heard plenty of other amps costing a lot more, the JC 5 smoked them all! John Curl is the man!
It’s not a bright amp at all. What speakers are you running.
I must give credit where credit is due. I was unhappy with your review of the debut Buchardt speakers and mentioned as such but your review of the JC5 is excellent but possibly selling it a little short! A bona fide high end amp for sure, I am burning one in now based in part on your review (thank you). A bit too forward and unrefined sounding out of the box but after 60 hours the sound is all my picky ears could ask for. Unbelievable midrange transparency and refinement with power to get very loud, it transformed my Spendor tower speakers into loaded horns! And yes, it does sound fantastic at low volume levels. Effortless power and an uncanny contrast to the volume levels of different instruments and musical elements. All in, thanks again ! Peace.
@anthony
I would like to lay a sheet of plexiglass on the top of this amp..
Thanks also for discussing the differences between the overall sound of the Parasound, Bryston & McIntosh Amplifiers. I have not seen another such discussion anywhere online. This is important to me because I am upgrading my Parasound P6 Preamplifier to either a Parasound JC-2PB or a McIntosh C49. Both are said to be fine performers but they sound somewhat different as you have mentioned here. I will be using a McIntosh MC152 Power Amplifier to pair with one of these preamps.
Love Parasound! Owner of both Parasound and Mark Levinson products.
Mine is on its way to me right now..... We had to wait a little bit in the UK...... BUT I know the wait will be worth it... Had good dependable performance from my A51...... Incredible engineering and delivered at a fantastic price.
You're in for a treat! Congrats!
@@ZeroFidelity cheers.... Straight and fair review of a nicely designed and well constructed component that really does perform ....great video (helps that I agree) 😊... Great job.
Zero Fidelity Fedex delivered my PARASOUND JC 5 Saturday afternoon December 15, 2018. It is a beautiful silver beast.
very nice video / i also have the the parasound jc5 and the preamp as well, just one word WOW.... now i am selling the parasound A21 amp ($1200) to for my bill. very happy with my buy.
That audio intro was very enjoyable! I actually played it over more than a couple of times.
Hey Sean, what about a preamp to front this guy with. It would at least be as good as the amp. What's your call?
After designing Parasound Halo A-21, this is the one which John Curl put his signature on … I still enjoy the excellent sound of A-21 … and one can still find Halo 21 (AB class) amplifier in the market at a reasonable price …
Maso I bought a used A21 for $1375 eight months ago, and $700 for a used P5 pre-amp. I’m satisfied for a bit over $2000. And I get 400 wpc thru 4 ohm towers that cost more than the amp/pre-amp. If you don’t have to own the latest thing, you can save a lot of money buying used.
Thanks very much for posting this video. I learned a lot here.
Wow! Very nice review. Well done and thanks so much for posting. I have a JC2 BP and recently got the new A21+ to pair with it, and it sounds amazing. Couldn't quite make the leap to the JC5, but it is on my "someday" list :). Would love to see/hear your impressions of the A21+.
What a great review. I have had the Parasound A23 power amp for about a year now and I'm loving it. I'm currently saving up to buy the new Parasound P6 preamp. With my experience with Parasound so far I would have no problem buying any products from them. I would love to buy this amp and would in a heart beat if I had the money.
I've been toying with the idea of buying a JC5 for heavy lifting when my Moon 600i v2 doesn't cut it. This helped seal the deal, thank you for the review.
How does it compare to the Moon?
1. John Curl should be on the mount Rushmore for Amp designers. 2. The CTC Blowtorch too. 3. Halo has a cool, tasteful design. I dig it. I'm not into "busy" looking gear.
What about NU Force. That's a much more advanced design. That's a better designer on another level.
Gorgeous amplifier 😍
Looks like a great amplifier.
I owned a Bryston 4B years ago, but there Intergrated Amps have gotten too expensive plus everything is at an additional cost such as remote control phono etc. The Bryston was bullet proof I have to say and resale was great. I've stated why I'm intrested in the Hint 6 and Anthem STR. If I'm financially able I'm leaning towards the Anthem it's $2000 more than the Parasound. Getting the Hint 6 leaves more cash to put towards speakers. I won't pull the trigger till I've listened to both and get more input from people such as yourself. Thanks again for your prompt reply to my initial question. Have a great day and keep up with the great channel.
Excellent review. I've watched your channel for a long time. Really appreciate your style and just keeping to the content at hand.
Great video and review. I clearly believe that this is one of the best amps on the market. With working in Class A for the first several watts, this is a magical amp. I personally would love to own this amp but its $1,000 higher than a price my wife would approve of. So I actually went with the Mac MC152 amp. However if I am not blown away by it, I would strongly consider getting the Parasound A21+ which is similar to the JC5 but perhaps a little more on the neutral sounding for only $3,500. For the JC5 to be made in Taiwan at this price point is surprising. You would think it would cost less with being made overseas. The Mac MC152 is $5,000 and its made in New York
I love the McIntosh MC152 so I am staying with it. it's not a colored as the McIntosh of old. it has a clear detailed sound that has some slight warmth. I think the Parasound is right up there with McIntosh however.
I bought a mint pair of the almighty JC-1’s! They were were on Stereo Review Components list for 16 straight yrs! My spks are 4 ohm so I get a little over 800 watts a side! I’ll be looking for the Big Parasound. 17:07 5 channel 17:39 17:44 17:46 17:56 17:56 😊 for my center/rears! 18:15
Good review, I'd really want to see your comparison of this to the Parasound A21.
Good review. I’ve always been a Parasound man, they popped my Audiophile.... back in 1984. Not a John Curl then but I loved it.
I bought a mint pair of the almighty JC-1’s! They were were on Stereo Review Components list for 16 straight yrs! My spks are 4 ohm so I get a little over 800 watts a side! I’ll be looking for the Big Parasound. 17:07 5 channel 17:39 for my center/rears!
Taiwan is not China or Malaysia. Labor laws are strict, wages are very high. In fact, GDP per capita in Taiwan is higher than in Japan and among the highest in the developed world. They do have state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities there and the raw materials like steel, copper and aluminum cost 70% less than what they do in US or Euope. You wouldn't be able to buy all the parts for what they can have the whole thing made there. I have Bryston amplifiers but from what I've seen, Parasound is on the same level, if not higher. The sound is a matter of preference but I'd never think of Parasound as something inferior on the account of it being made in Asia. Cheers!
Hi Shawn, Thanks for another wonderful review. I purchased Parasound New Classic 2250 and 5250 amps about 9 years ago and loved the quality and performance they brought to the table. In November, 2018 I replaced those amps with Parasound Halo A21 and A52+ amplifiers. I got a great deal on the A21 as an end of life product and could not be happier. Both amps perform much better than my old New Classic amps. This is especially true in the lower registers where bass is so much more defined and articulate. The mid-range changes where subtle but noticeable while the upper registers are now more open and transparent. In short I’m happy to see someone highlighting many strong attributes or the Parasound line of products! In my mind it is tough to beat the price to performance value Parasound offers throughout their entire offerings. While I can’t justify $6000.00 on a new amp right now.... Maybe a little down the road??
I own one. It’s a great amp. Mine replaced an A21 and it was a notable improvement.
Heck yeah, Chris!
Hi Chris, which preamp are you using
JC2 BP
I own the A21 and am curious in what specific improvements you noticed between the two? Thanks
Great video, great amplifier. I have used Parasound for quite a while now, great build quality, and performance. Depending on which speakers I have in my system at a specific time, I use a Halo A23, or A21 paired with a Halo P3 pre-amplifier. Would love to be able to hear that behemoth JC5!
I just wanted to take a moment to recognize the value that you bring to the community, Hi-Fi Haven. I don't how it's even possible, but I see you commenting on damn near every hi-fi related video that I come across - and not once have I ever seen you be anything less then positive, enthusiastic, and respectful. This is the type of behavior that keeps a positive vibe resonating throughout the community. So thank you for, well.. being you!
Thank you very much man, that means a lot!
Sean, great in depth review as always (history lesson appreciated too)! With this kind of price range $6Gs for the JC5 in the works, I'm thinking a review with the Hegel H20 power amp with the same price tag may be a great comparison. I think your boy John Darko has been talking about how great they sound lately on the Hegel front so would love to see your take on it if you happen to get your hands on one! As always, keep 'em coming man! PS: those AQ interconnects working out solid! 👌
A21+ review?
Hi Sean, Could you do a review on PS Audio BHK (the stereo unit) and compare it to the JC5? I know is being a year since you did this one. I am in the market for something like this. I have the PS Audio stack, as you called it, but I want to move away from class D. Thank you so much. Ps: I'm getting the Buchardt S400. Your review was paramount on that matter.
Great review, just after I bought a new A21 for $1800 Canadian (on sale after the release of the A21+). It is better than my old Hegel H160 at dynamics and soundstaging, more authoritative at those moments in a song where the bass needs speed and control AND delineation. Thanks to you Sean I am now wondering if I should have stretched for the JC5! Hopefully my Bitcoin gamble pays off (bought big at $3000).
which audio dealer you got the A21 from? considering upgrading my hca 2200ii to a21+ or jc5.
@@mtube620 i got it from a guy in manitoba canada, im in vancouver canada, send me your email to mike.mityok@gmail.com and i will put you in contact with him, but fyi i got that deal AFTER having bought an expensive pair of pmc floorstanders from him, so no promises he will give you the exact deal he gave me
I hope you held and sold some at $30k+ lol
Dang, that's a serious amp!
Hi! Thank you for the review. I have a pair of Focal Aria 948 and I run them with a Pioneer combo from the 90s. The c73/m73 pre and power. I also have the svs 1000 sub, just to add a little more on the low side. My auditions are low to moderate and I was wondering if changing to Parasound a21+ or a23+ will give me that wow change, to say so. The 23+ is more on the budget, but if 21+ will give a much better sound, I will rethink the budget. :) What would you recommend? I would really appreciate it. Of course, the preamp will follow, probably the P6. Thank you!
Hi...great review. Question. How would the JC5 compare vs the newer A21+? Considering both for a 2 channel room with Martin Logan CLX speakers. Thx! Great channel btw. :)
I think Sean got the "loop" feature incorrect.... It's for bi-amping each speaker vertically, in which you will need two amps. One for each channel, right and left. So you will have one amp's channel's covering the highs and lows of the right side and the other amp covering the left side.
E-x-c-e-l-lent review!
The Michi X5 Series 2 integrated with MM and MC phono and upgraded DAC retails for 7k, only 1k more than this piece, and puts out more power; with the JC5 I then need the P6 pre and JC 3+ phono plus 2 additional interconnect cables; does this 3 piece stack better than the x5 series 2 integrated? Thank you in advance for your candor.
The gain level is also great if you are bi-amplifying your speakers. The gain can also be useful if your left and right speakers are not egually.set in the room or the room acoustics are uneven.
Would you review PSA BHK 250 and compare to JC5?
I found this video interesting because in essence you described my Sansui 8080db! Yeah, about 1973, that Sansui. The synergy I have right now in that system is nothing short of stellar! In fact, the performance you described comes remarkably close to my Sansui! (By the way, I am likely the only one who is not a fan of McIntosh gear).
Here's the thing, I have talked with manufactures of high-end amps that run in the $10k to $15k range and they are familiar with the old Sansui db line and all of them said to me that in order for me to find an amp today that comes close to sounding like my Sansui I would have to spend at least $10k. A couple also said that they wish they had one.
It's not that Sansui alone made the best sounding integrated amps (receivers are technically integrated amps) back then, but part of the reason they sounded so good along with some other brands back then was the build. I noticed that you pointed out the parts used in the Parasound JC5 and recognized the old school origin. I think this is in part why the Parasound sounds the way you described.
I am going to be looking for an amp for my reference system in progress, which is the final piece and it is too bad the JC5 is $6000 as I can never run to that, not even close. It also tells me that finding a new amp for the bigger system is not going to be easy.
As for "audiophiles" (present company excepted), other reviewers and the like not liking it because it is "only $6000" in their world.....screw them! They wouldn't know good sound and quality if you threw all 75 lbs of the amp and crushed their faces with it.
Hell yeah man! I love vintage Sansui gear. Just give me a beer, a good vintage Sansui setup, and a record spinning some classic rock n' roll... and I'll be all smiles.
The 8080db looks awesome! Would love to hear one at some point. Just as I'd love to one day restore my parents old Sansui stereo receiver, which I really liked even as a kid. Speaking of vintage pieces, the Fisher 400 is a beast! I also have fond memories of my first tube amp, a mint Dynakit ST35. Good stuff!
As for reviewers liking it... it seems that most of the manufacturers and reviewers who hear the JC5 end up buying it, and/or really wanting to. I suppose I'll be added to that list. :D
Careful, once you hear something like a Sansui 8080db, you start questioning everything else. (If my suspicions are correct that Parasound JC5 has likely given you at least a taste of that).
Things were just made differently back then and / or perhaps for a different reason as well. (Perhaps Parasound recognizes that and is trying to emulate it, which is wonderful). My Sansui has me worried right now since I recently replaced my near end of life DCM TF-600s with a new pair of Paradigm Monitors S6000F and started breaking them in playing a bunch of CDs and vinyl and having imaging such as I have not heard in shows or anywhere on systems up to six figures! It currently smashes my reference system in progress! The synergy between the speakers, Marantz CD player, equally vintage Pioneer TT and the Sansui is unbelievable, not to mention unexpected. The image has such breadth and depth that I feel as though I could walk around in it, not to mention the detail as well.
As for reviewers, I was talking about the ones who won't look at anything under $10k and are complete snobs and in it just for fame or something. We all know who they are too. Of course, you would be the exception to that rule Sean.
Me? I'd add myself to the list of those wanting to buy the JC5, but I can't afford it. I actually don't want to hear one either because I fear I will want it even though I can't afford it. Parasound just makes good stuff, period and they have been consistent about that too.
I'm guessing that if there is any correlation in sound between the 8080db and the JC5, the connection is more by coincidence than purpose. That said, it sounds like the Sansui is a sweet amp. Glad it's getting some luv at Casa Del Elliott!
Oh, no doubt Sean!
Same with the synchronicity in my Sansui system, total unplanned coincidence. All I did was get some new speakers and transfer my CD player from my other system. I had no idea what I was in for = the holy grail of surprises for any audio or music enthusiast.
Hmm, I am going to be in market soon for an amp for my reference system and while I can't afford the JC5 and am torn between integrated or separates, it is max budget for me, but I'm looking seriously at the Halo Hint 6 integrated. You should do a review on that too.
Would you recommend this amplifier or the Macintosh MC 152? They’re basically the same price the Mack will hold its value much better. I think it looks much cooler but it’s all about the sound quality right
How would you compare the sound between Parasound and Anthem amps? Specifically the Para Hint 6 and the Anthem STR integrated amps?
I have jc 2 and A21
Is this a good combination ?
I would say your description of this amp falls inline with most any Halo series models. Just a sweet sound, I have the P7, A21 and I’ll put that combo against many amps costing multiple times more. I have experienced other amps described as having "more detail in the high end” imo, more is not necessarily better.
As to your comment about some self proclaimed audiophiles turning their noses up to Parasound amps cos they’re too low priced and as such, referring to Parasound as Mid-Fi, is totally insane. From what Ive seen of the audiophile crowd, they’re the ones insane.
Some people only listen with their eyes. Oh well. Thankfully, there are plenty of people who know what time it really is. :) Enjoy the gear!
I admire the Parasound philosophy. High performance at realistic price points. I love that anti-elitist attitude.
@@ZeroFidelity I listen with my eyes sometimes i forget to blind
or their spec sheets@@ZeroFidelity
This is incredible, u got it right !!! A+++++ This is royalty
Taiwan is actually very reputable with electronics and home audio manufacturing. Do not mistake with "made in China" because it is not.
Surely there's a good "made in China" somewhere 🤣. Probably not
Aaaaaw, and I JUST came home from my dealer (last of the brick and mortar stores here in MA.) with a brand new A-21 and P6 preamp and a pair of ESL-9's and Kimber balanced interconnects for them. UNboxing over this weekend. (Feb. 8, 2020). For me, something TOTALLY DIFFERENT from my beloved Klipschorns and Dynaco Mark 3's and PAS-2 preamp... ((O: Change is GOOD right ???
I just went from a lifetime of SS to horns and tubes. Change IS good!
@@user-ex9zm7bg3x Congrats on tubes and horns! I have Kliipsch Forte' 4 pair in my living room setup with a complete Bang and Olufsen Beogram 6500 system from 1990. I have an R8 as well, outfitted with rolled (9) tubes made by JJ. electronics which includes EL-34 outputs. Believe it or not, the B&O has a warmer sound for SS of back in the day! Just did the experiment yesterday!, so the R8 went back in the main listening room. You never know until you try different things together, the results can be surprising and not always in a good way.
Back in the audio showroom, the A-21 and P6 still sound wonderful with the Martin Logans, it never gets old 😊.
I am a long-term owner of an A21 and I just purchased the JC 5.
Boy, do these two amps sound different. The A21 is relatively laid back sounding, but the JC 5 is in your face! Everything sounds like you are sitting on the front row.
At first, I wasn't sure that I preferred the JC 5. Although it has superior detail and dynamic slam, I also felt that it produced more listening fatigue. I also noticed that the JC 5 has higher gain than the A21. I have reconfigured the system with better cables, speaker wire, and power source, and now I am not sure which I prefer. The JC 5's sound has improved. I don't know if this is because of the improved connections or just that it has had a chance to break in.
I am going to gain match the two and then compare again.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has had experience with both and their impressions.
1. Does the JC 5 require break-in to sound its best, and if so then how much?
2. Do the balanced inputs sound better than the unbalanced?
3. Are your impressions of the difference between the two amps similar to mine?
You posted some months ago about the JC5 sound, has your impression of the amp changed since you got it compared to the A21? I like relaxed sound vs in your face.
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A great amp is one that doesn't color your sound in the slightest, any coloring to the sound is left up to the listener. So all good amps should sound the same, if you have an amp that don't then it's not a amp you'd want to use.
Some questions: are those volume (attenuation) controls or controls for amplifier *gain*, and they don’t track? Won’t there be channel mismatch? What does the quieter/louder setting for the turn on threshold do? And what do you mean by ‘voicing’ in an amplifier? I understand ‘voicing’ loudspeakers with the crossover but never heard it when discussing amplifiers. Thanks.
To answer your questions: 1) The knobs are simple gain controls that you adjust manually. Matching isn't an issue provided you line things up properly. 2) When your amplifier is in 'standby' mode, it will 'wake up' once it detects signal coming to it. The JC5, as I understand it, has a fairly low threshold so it won't take a lot of signal to turn it on. Turn-on options gives you some flexibility to adjust that, which is honestly something on custom-installers will likely use. 3) Every product has a unique performance envelope. When it comes to voicing an amplifier, you can do this numerous ways: Feedback, gain, circuit type, output and input transformer type, output capacitance bank and type, input stage design and parts choice, etc etc.. It's a big reason why Curl went with Toshiba FET transistors for the input section. You can find other measurably great JFET's out there, but those vintage Toshibas have a unique sound that you just cant find anywhere else... Not that I've heard at least! Anyways, I hope this helped.
The ‘gain’ controls are almost certainly input attenuators and hv nothing to do with amplifier gain, otherwise the user is changing the loop gain and phase margin. No way that is occurring here, he should hv called them ‘level’ or something.
To me, voicing is done in crossovers to introduce a peak or dip in the lower or upper midrange to give the speaker a certain characteristic sound or compensate a driver’s response. An amplifier is flat within +/- 0.1 dB in the passband and therefore is not ‘voiced’ in the traditional sense. I’ve seen enough JC’s posts on diyaudio to know that he’s a jfet fan but I doubt that one manufacturer of jfet has significant differences from another vendor, especially for an input stage. It’s a square law device and you can’t magically make the fet more ‘linear’. Solid state physics. Sorry but I hv my doubts. More likely to hear differences due to amplifiers behavior when driving complex loads (output stage design) and/or its power supply capability (i.e. capacitance multiplier or fully regulated supply rails). Maybe difficult to see by looking at the internals, easier to see in a schematic.
Sounds like JC would need to answer these questions for you. I don't have direct access to the man himself. Will respond if I'm able to provide sufficient answers directly from the folks who built the product.
Yes, they are input attenuators. The A21, A23 have the same way of labeling the control. Its been this way for eons.
Well there ya have it! Thanks for the verification, Parasound.
Have you reviewed the Usher R1.5 ?
just bought JC5 in silver. cant wait to hook it up to PERSONA 3f!
Funny you say that, I have those speakers too. What are you using as a preamp for the JC-5?
Nice review. I have a question for you. I am putting together a 2 channel stereo system. I have narrowed it down to two Intergrated Amps the Parasound Hint 6 and the Anthem STR I'd like your opinion on which to good with. My room is
13" X15"X 8" open on one side and opens into a dining room. I listen at moderate to loud levels. The speakers are going to be either GE Triton 2+ or MA Silver 500 my musical taste is largely classic rock and blues. Thanks in advance for your input.
Hey Mario,
I'm afraid I won't be able to provide you with much help. I haven't heard the latest Parasound integrated, nor have I listened to any of the recent Anthem components. It's a shame, because I genuinely like some of the recent-vintage pieces from both companies. Real good stuff. That said...
If the new gear sounds anything like the old, then I'd wager the Parasound Hints ballsy, grittier sound may form a good match with Monitor Audio's inherently light and agile character. Meanwhile, Anthem has always had this smooth and refined presentation for the money. This leads me to believe that they would do a great job complimenting Golden Ears inherently powerful, if not somewhat forward way of projecting sound. To be clear, I'd encourage you to apply pounds of salt to what I just said as I'm relying exclusively on past memories of recent-vintage integrated amps.
Good luck in the hunt!
Both amps are clean as is great resolution. The Parasound stays in that middle ground with a hint of warmth that I tend to prefer. The STR amp is very neutral. I would suggest deciding on speakers first then listening to amps with the speakers you select if you are near a place that will let you do a home demo. I would also suggest you listen to the Prestige 85 F speakers. I think that middle series of speakers is outstanding.
Thank you very much for your input and suggestions. I've heard the GE Triton 2+ with Marantz AVR and liked it a lot. I also heard the MA Silvers, but not the 500 I like them both though the Tritons seem a bit more complete and easier to listen to the MA might become fatiguing after a while. Money wise the Parasound and Monitor Audio combo is the more affordable way to go. I like the looks on the Anthem though. Will let you know when I pull the trigger either way. Again thank you very much sir.
If you already sense the potential for fatigue, I would pay attention to that. I would suggest ( humbly) that sound qualities be the guide. I tend to gravitate toward warm organic sound that’s dynamic but involving. If you could close your eyes and listen all night you’re there.
Mr. Crim I you would be of great service if you would get your own channel. I remember when I had considerable more disposable income and read and heard so much about the Wilson Watt Puppies. I auditioned them and as impressive as they were at first. After about a half hour of my preferred listening taste. My ears felt like they were going to bleed. I decided to go with Genesis 300s My preferred listening is moderately to loud and like impact with detail, but as it is often said for the music and performance to transport me to the event. Thank you again for your much appreciated input. Have a wonderful day.
Greetings from the future. I would like to know how this compares to pair of Schiit Tyrs. And for that matter, a single Vidar! Which is my current benchmark 😅 Thanks!
It's heavier than schiit 😜
Couldn't resist. I dunno how they compare though. I bought the a21+ week or so ago and it's impressed me so much I'm already looking up and wondering if I plunge into the jc5 immediately(ish)
Beautiful amplifier 😎
I.......must........resist!! Lol.
Have the A21, P5 and JC3+, and I’m a huge fan of Parasounds Halo line and CTC builders. This is incredible stuff and priced right. And more than fairly. Love that they got rid of the little red P light on this JC5 amp. Thanks for the worlds first detailed review of this fantastic amp!
Resistance is futile....... This demands attention.... It's shockingly good
hey at that price it should have the classic needle metering, left/right stepped volume controls with big knobs and left/right clipping indicators. then it would be perfect
How does the jc5 compare to the other parasound amps sound quality wise?. For example, the zonemaster, classic series ECT.
Another tier. Lower noise floor. Image separation. Balance. Sense of scale/fullness. The JC5 is where you start entering the 'It's beginning to sound real' territory. Now to be fair, the Zonemaster 2350 may not compete in overall sound quality, but it does match the JC5 in terms of delivering a low noise floor and isn't embarrassed when it comes to raw power output.
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks for your response, I wonder how it will sound hooked up to my tekton impact monitors, or klipsch rf-7 3s. Currently I have a ati signature series amp now, but haven't hooked it up yet.
If you're coming from an ATI Sig, then dude... I think your pants would fly off the moment you connect a JC5 to those Klipsch RF-7's. That could be a wickedly awesome combo!
@@ZeroFidelity especially with the 100rms watts more per channel.I definitely would like to purchase a jc5 amp soon. Have you heard the ati signature series amp yet? They have many great reviews.
Hey Daniel. To be entirely honest, I cannot remember if it was a Signature amp or not. What I can tell you is that the owner who brought the ATI to my place was *extremely confident* that it was going to school the gear that I had at the time. While it wasn't bad per-say, they learned the same lesson that everyone whose come both before and after learned - there is rarely such a thing as a giant killer, and that you get what you pay for. And just like everybody whose come before and after, the experience ultimately cost them a lot of money afterwards. ;) That being said, sometimes you certainly can pay less and get more, although that's a bit more situation dependent.
Good review, Parasound is one of my Fav Brands. There are some good mods for this amp too.
Mods? Do tell.
There are already mods out for this thing? Crazy. That said, I'd caution anyone to mod their new $6,000 amp, as that's all but guaranteed to bust the warranty. Having actually worked on some expensive gear on a professional level, I can tell you that it's usually pretty easy to spot when someone tampered with the product.
Zero Fidelity $6400 ouch, for that I'd rather have Bryston monoblocks.. and for 6500 I could build better sounding amplifier..
Horses for courses! Bryston monos retail for a lot more than the JC5, and if you can beat John Curl at his own game.. you need to jump into the business. :)
@@JasonLeaman
Why aren't you selling better amplifiers than John Curl 😮
Great review, I have Klipsch RP280F front speakers would JC 5 be a over kill for the Klipsch. I am currently using a Anthem MCA 325 to drive them would there be a improvement and would it be audible?
Yes, a big overkill with the 280f's. I mean, the 280f would sing their best, but the jc5 deserves alot more😉 280f is my reserve speakers when I change out my main speakers and have to wait for the new ones, and iv played the jc5 with those and its sound amazing. I now use the jc5 with the jbl hdi 3800 and its perfect
Taiwan is not China i suggest you talk to Richard Schram about their quality control in the factory where they are made and you will come away with a different perspective.
Also see on RUclips Richard Schram and John Curl discuss amplifiers by Century Stereo CA it goes for 1:29:38 this might enlighten you.
It's finally time: Parasound just announced the JC1+ !!! I know it's a big ask given how busy you are (and how willing Parasound is,) but I would LOVE you to compare this to the new JC1+ monos. I'm especially curious if the JC1+ can do as good or better than the JC5 at both high and low volume levels... or if it's a waste of money to buy two JC1+ monos if you're just getting similar performance as the JC5 (which would be shocking but good to know if true.)
Compare to MUSICAL-FIDELITY M8 500S amp ???
Immediately took a couple points away for not using Dusty Springfield for the opening.
Hey Sean! I'm looking at the A23+ right now. Do you have a take on it?
I'm currently using A21+ and P6. Would a move to JC5 amp, or JC2 pre?
I would replace the P6 first. Get a tube preamp, it changes everything. I had your setup, and went to a Primaluna Evo 400 and OMG. At the very least, if you are using the internal dac and phono amp, upgrade that first. I went from using a laptop into the back of the P6 with a usb cable to a Innuos streamer, and a good dac, and it was a hell of an improvement. But the tube preamp topped it off by a lot. JC5 is next. Then I am done. I really mean it.
@@jeffsykes1195 did you ever ditch the a21+ for a jc5? I'm using an old integrated for pre so thinking a minidsp SHD as pre to get something transparent but your prima tube pre sounds very interesting.
@@erics.4113 I ended up with a Modwright KWA 150 SE amplifier.
Awesome review
Good review!
Shawn, I don't know how many times I would have watched this video. I really would need your help choosing my final amplifier. Between the JC5 and Passlabs INT250. Both have 20-30 watts of class A.
I listen to Classic Rock, Dance-Electronic music.
Please review INT125 / give me that word of wisdom as always.
You're the best.
Cheers
Dude if you can swing the INT-250 you might look at the XA60.8's (since it sounds like you like Class A).
Greetings from Malta !
Great review ! You have no idea how much it means to guys like me who does not have the luxury to visit a Hifi store and listen to this high end gear, can I ask you what pre amp are you using. Is the the matching JC 2 BP the best pre amp option?
Kind regards and keep up the good work!
Daniel
Hi. Would you think this amplifier will work fine with a mcintosh C52 preamp or any similar mcintosh pre? Please let me know your opinion. Thanks in advanced.
One of the things I loved about my PS Audio Elite Plus integrated amp was they moved the transformer into a separate box with a nice heavy cable connecting it to the unit itself. It made the unit itself easier to move, a lot of the weight was in that transformer, and it isolated any noise the transformer might make from the main unit's electronics.
What preamplifier and cables did you use, you should be upfront with that every time
Hi Shawn,
Thanks for another informative review.
I have a question for you and any viewers who want to provide their informed opinions.
I own a Parasound Halo A52+ 5 amplifier..John Curl design.
I have a new pair of Totem Tribe Tower Speakers arriving very soon.
I listen at low-moderate sound levels. ( I listen to Folk, jazz, Folk-rock, country/Americana)
*Do you think that this pairing will create an enjoyable listening experience?
Can you also review Parasound A23 plus....pls.
The handles at the back great thinking, PS Audio and Mcintosh should take note their handles at front look dog ugly to me...nice amp and vid man
Microwaves have at the front as well , so it is alright ;-) LOL
And at the back also protects the stuff back there.
nice amp and I've read good reviews on their products. How does this unit compare to the Modwright equivalent?
Great review parasound is an amazing company.
15:15 Zero Fidelity. What are some of your amplifier recommendations that fit this "Studio Solution" paradigm?
Anyway you can do a review on the new hint 6 Vs the original hint form parasound ?
I appreciate the suggestion. I could probably talk them into sending me the new Hint 6 for a review in 2019. Getting an older unit may be a bit more tricky though. Perhaps I could convince Ron from New Record Day to send me his.
Emotiva DR2 is very close in sound. JC5 is great but need to have lot of space as it get hot very fast.
That is beautiful inside
I HAVE KNOWN JOHN CURL FOR FORTY YEARS AND JUST NOW LISTENING TO MARK LEVINSON 26! HE WAS A NICE MAN, IS A NICE MAN!!!!!!!!!
I've been drooling over this, ever since I first saw it at the Parasound website a while ago. Maybe someday I can get one used. But I don't know. Even that would probably be too much IMO. What this really gets me thinking about is trying some of their other gear. Like that big Class D one you reviewed a while back, especially since I recently grabbed a Breeze Audio TPA3116 off the Bay, and frikkin love that little thing. But maybe a used Halo might be nice too, and cost much less. We'll see. I'm about to wipe out my savings, and go into a little bit of debt even. It's time for another car unfortunately. I used to love buying cars, until I got into this hobby, but now it's killing me handing over the money. When I would much rather be spending it on my system. It will be nice driving a car that works properly though.
Anyway. Thanks for the video man. I've been itching for this one ever since you let on you had it in, and it didn't disappoint at all. I think that is one really sweet piece, and I agree with you about the deal thing. If it really does compete with the big boys, then it's a frikkin steal. Period! I'm very impressed, and the way you described the sound makes me think I would love this amp. Plus it's just a big beautiful beast of an amp. I hope they sell well. So they'll stay around for a few, and then hopefully we'll start seeing them on the used market at decent prices. This one is definitely on my short list. I mean, it seems like one of those "last amp I'll ever buy" amps even. And personally I love that they built it overseas, because otherwise I would never, ever get a chance of they built it in the states. At least now. I could actually save up for it. Of course if I did actually do that. I would have to have it custom painted camouflage, to hide it from the old lady. 😁
Thanks again man. Great review. I really hope Parasound thinks so, because so far I've really enjoyed the reviews of their gear you've done. And I want to see more too. You've definitely got me wanting to try one of their amps. That's for sure.
Thanks for the comments, Scott. The JC5 is the real deal. So is the JC2BP for that matter. Suffice to say, I hope I can hold onto this gear for just a little bit longer. :)
@@ZeroFidelity I actually forgot to mention about the keeping the thing. First thing I thought of when I started the video is that I was glad it wasn't me reviewing it, because having to send this back would kill me a little inside. Lol
And yes that preamp is suhweet! You see all the work in the power supplies, and the attention to detail, and immediately think black background and great dynamic range. Just amazing gear. Are you going to review the preamp too?
As for the cars. I'm basically over the car thing. I buy very practical cars nowadays. That being said though. If I had more money. Forget about it. I love my cars. Actually doing this car shopping has me thinking about buying a nice 2nd car/toy. I use my car for work. So I need cheap, and practical, which means economical 4 cylinder basically. But I was noticing some nice cars cheap out there. Nothing crazy, but you can get a 250-300hp, or so V6 rear/all wheel drive Infinity, or Cadillac from the early to mid 00's for about $5000. In good shape, and without crazy high miles either. It would be nice to go for rides with my girl in, and just play around with in general. But the insurance, and me living in a condo, where I would need to keep it somewhere else makes that tough. Saving up 4 or 5 grand isn't that hard, but paying for it continously makes it tough to justify really. Cars are just basically money pits/liabilities. Unless you use them to make money, like I do. But they are definitely fun.
The last thing I want to do is to send this combo back. I actually plan on creating a separate video about this, as this is the first time (in a long time) that I've actually been content with a dedicated stereo rig. As for cars:
Dude, I was bitten by that bug rather hardcore a couple years ago. My last vehicle was a 17' Mustang GT with some work done to it. Loved that beautiful race red / black accent package pony. I ended up letting it go because I had nowhere to park it and didn't have enough discipline to NOT upgrade the vehicle. A money pit for sure... but damn it can be lots of fun!
@@ZeroFidelity Nice can't wait to see the video. And the Mustangs are so nice. You know how nice they are, when you see everyone on the net talking smack about them. Because they're jealous. 🤣🤣🤣
Hi I have a stupid question if you have a choice between McIntosh MC152 or JC5?
IDK, $6000 is more than my whole system is worth. Point of diminishing returns. Can't see spend that much money on an amp. What $12,000 for speakers another $5-6 grand for a pre- amp. I'll stay with my gear which sounds really good.
Greetings from Serbia!
Just bought one using with a pair of Thiel CS3.7’s. The bass went to awesome and floored me. This guy is I really onto it. The expensive amps cost so much because of the expensive visual stuff and not the internals.
hey Paul, you commented earlier that the JC5 replaced an A21 for you and that it is a noticeable improvement. Would you mind decribing in a bit more details where and how the JC5 improves ? Also, how hot does it run, if at all ? Thank you.
Casper White The lower bass just opened up a lot as well as mid bass. I had the JC1’s as well and since I repeat some music over and over, aka ocd, it was a profound difference, even compared to my Mac 601’s. It gets no where hot as the JC1’s
Thank you Paul for your feedback, I appreciate.
A JC5 with CS3.7's MUST be slammin. Enjoy the music!
is jc1 mono sound more beautiful than jc5 obviously？bro？
After all the praise in this video; very surprised to hear you bash this amp's sound and looks in last night's live stream.
Darn, missed that stream. Could you expand this thought please?
@@oleksiifilippov68 He basically complained that Parasound used the same casing as the A21 and the amp looked plain. The JC5 sits and collects dust in his home because it's not as exciting as other premium amps he has access to. If I had to interpret what he was saying, it's basically that the JC5 is a jack of all trade and a master none (essentially a boring amp). I actually think his review in this video is the more accurate assessment of the amp. My system includes Primaluna preamp, Luxman SACD, PS Audio Phono, but the JC5 is my best looking piece. I was having thoughts of trading in my JC5 and Primaluna preamp for Luxman's top of the line integrated and my dealer thought the combo I had was better than the Luxman. I agreed with him after I listed to the Luxman. My JC5 combo sounded warmer, less metallic and had a smoother top end extension. Listening to the Luxman made me realize that the JC5 is a relatively warm sounding amp.
@@arize84 thanks for taking time to reply! It’s still the only separate I can afford and that is presumably to my taste. It should be quite impressive from what I heard/read!
Searched for a separate just because I want tubes somewhere in my system. And the preamp seems to be the right place.
@@arize84 pretty cool system by the way! It’s a lot of flexibility if you want to experiment with the sound. Just curious, what model is your preamp? And what speakers do you use?
@@oleksiifilippov68 Primaluna Evo 300; if I had to do it over, I would have gotten the Evo 400. I really think the JC5 sounds better with balanced interconnects. My speakers are monitor Audio PL 100II (their current platinum bookshelfs). The speakers are very easy to work it; they are not fussy about placement, have a lot of bass, and do well with all kinds of music (these are not specialist speakers). They are not bright at all (which suits my taste).
Are there any reviews out there on the A23+ amp?? Great video!
How does this compare to vintage amps like the Pioneer Spec1 and 2 ?
I purchased the JC5 a few weeks ago. I play it a couple hours at a time 3-4 a week. Was curious if break in is a real thing for this amp and is there any consensus on how long. 100hrs etc...
There is definitely a breaking period. It sounds a tad thin and analytical out the box but break in wasn't long. I think mine settled after a week or 2.
Looking for a review of NAD M22 Hypex NCore power amp, I think this Parasound too big for some?
Is this a truly balanced amp or is the xlr connector acting like an adapter?
Hello, can u give me honest opinion for JC5 vs JC1? Does it sound as good? Thanks