RouterOS x86 user here. Please never stop supporting this! This is essentially the only platform that can handle PPPoE at multi-gigabit speeds.. my CCR2004 absolutely can't keep up at 3gbps due to the single threaded pppoe encapsulation.. unfortunately pppoe fiber-to-the-home is the only option in my area of Canada.
@@Luiz-dc1vk you can use a server with accel ppp with protocol ipoe to ur users of mikrotik. Its better than pppoe because u don't need a very powerfull routerboard to handle this. What kind of software u use like CRM to control ur clients?
Hi, can you please tell us which RosV7 you are using on your x86? and what Fiber sfp+ nic card you are using? and which interface queues you are using?
I am a bit cheap so don't change your business model for my sake, but connecting the license to something else except the disk would feel more comfortable. Like an actual hardware token or just any thumbdrive that is not used by the system but needs to be inserted and acts like a hardware token. I love MT, hate power consumption and I'm not requiring the performance a dedicated computer provides so I'm not the targeted customer anyway. Thank you anyway! Had I not gotten in to the embedded systems this feels like a nice way to try router os out.
So buy SLC thumbdrive, put routeros on it with the license and it will act exactly as a hardware token. For the duration of your life. What is the problem? I think bonding to drive is a good idea.
@@D9ID9I not for the remainder of my life.... For the remainder of the thumbdrive's life. That said, Router OS version s probably not going to write that much to the draft ve and wear it out, so it might not be an issue anyway
Thanks so much for making the software available to download for non Mikrotik hardware. I buy from companies that give back to the community. So I now buy Mikrotik hardware because I know the company helps not hinders the users.
definitely makes more sense to install a VM and CHR onto the same hardware than install on the bare metal if a physical install tethers the license to something as volatile as a disk... maybe you could get more life if it can be installed on a raid volume, but then it might tie to the raid card of which its not unheard of to have a PERC card die...
Hm... The drive it installs to is formatted with a single partition, and no boot partition. The result is that the router cannot boot once the USB drive is unplugged. Should I use a different Linux distro to partition the drive first, and then setup a EFI boot partition before installing RouterOS? I can't seem to find any best practices on this.
Just what I'm doing now but, why Mikrotik, why? No Docker Support on Partition inside 1 physical disk or Folder inside the disk. Please allow partitions on disk in X86 so we can install Dockers using just 1 disk. For example a Cloud Server that only allows 1 disk. Thanks
I installed it on Ryzen 5700G for sh*ts and giggles and failed to enable the containers feature(I did set it to “yes” from console) which seems to be limited to ARM or something - a bit weird, since this would probably be the best platform/architecture to have containers on. The limitation makes it less attractive against something like OPNsense.
@@mikrotik I found now forum instructions and that one specifically mentions that "Extra packages" needs to be downloaded and manually copied to the device, then rebooted - this is implied in the docs but not explicitly mentioned for people not familiar with RouterOS.
I am making a mesh network with Mikrotik's proprietary HWMP+ protocol, and I want to know: 1.- If with HWMP+ it was possible to configure several vlans, that is, go through the wireless links with HWMP+ several vlans, if so, please tell me how it would be configured. Or you can only do HWMP+ over single VLANs. 2.- HWMP+ to resolve loops, is supported over RSTP or STP, since I can't get HWMP+ to resolve loops alone. @Mikrotik
I have 1 unit supermicro x9 board x9sca 16G RAM, E3-1230v2 cpu 8 threads, ssd 240GB. I have tried to install RoS x86 version 7.6 to SSD (in IDE mode), installation is success, but after rebooting RoS does not boot, curson at top level corner of the screen blinking, harddrive led blinking too, but the system does not start. Why ?
4:36 and that is a thing that happens, disks die, I had a few SSDs die on me already. If for whatever reason I need to migrate my key, can I do that or do I need to buy a new one?
In that case you would have to ask Mikrotik support to transfer the license. Alternatively install CHR in a virtualized environment, as it has a more flexible license.
@@Andrew_Thrift Reportedly only for vmxnet3 and virtio. There was some work done recently on ixgbe support as well, so FP support may as well have been silently added.
who needs fastpath ? if you have 2nd hand Dell R910 and R920 with 4 cpu slots up to 48cores 2.8ghzs per core with 96threads??? slam in 4 dual XDA520-da2 sfp+ fiber nic cards make it faster then CCR1072.. for half the price.. who knows..might throw in a 25Gbps or 40Gbps fiber nic for WAN access from ISP of 100G fiber nic card if your hardware support
Check out the CHR-Version. It is a special virtualization-license router-os router that is much simpler licensed and not bound on hardware (disk). It is availlable in much disk-versions or as ova-package.
a physical router is much more power-efficient than a x86 server system and many times smaller with mostly more ethernet interfaces than these x86 hardwares :-) But you CAN do that ;-)
aren't you just running a virtual router ? I would not think that a software based router could come anywhere close to the performance of a router whose hardware was designed explicitly for routing.
Most certainly not. x86 can be very powerful for routing. The "designed for routing" mostly means a dedicated switch chip, possibly hardware acceleration, a certain number and type of interfaces. But in raw performance, the most powerful x86 systems will beat most regular routers. We have users that are routing more than 100Gbits with x86
If I used it on proxmox and buy license key.. If my proxmox was deleted reformated to reinstall again or install it bear metal Will I still be able to used my license in the same drive?
Only if you installed with the CHR VM image, that is designed for virtual machines like Proxmox. The CHR license is in your mikrotik.com account, and you can later assign it to a different virtual system. If you used the ISO file - then no.
@@mikrotik can this CHR VM image be installed on a bear metal? and its license I bought example if I installed it on proxmox and buy its license.. and the time comes I want to install on bear metal can I used that CHR VM image and its license to be used on my bear metal machine x86?
No, CHR license is only for CHR. If you run it in a CHR installation in Proxmox, you can only move the license to another CHR type installation, like another Proxmox, VMware, HyperV, etc.
Love the way Mikrotik preps its customers for hardware shortages :)
RouterOS x86 user here. Please never stop supporting this! This is essentially the only platform that can handle PPPoE at multi-gigabit speeds.. my CCR2004 absolutely can't keep up at 3gbps due to the single threaded pppoe encapsulation.. unfortunately pppoe fiber-to-the-home is the only option in my area of Canada.
Change to ipoe protocol my friend! You gonna surf very good :)
@@Rafaelalexandre1 Mikrotik supports ipoe protocol?
@@Luiz-dc1vk you can use a server with accel ppp with protocol ipoe to ur users of mikrotik. Its better than pppoe because u don't need a very powerfull routerboard to handle this. What kind of software u use like CRM to control ur clients?
Huh? OpenWRT has multi-gigabit pppoe
Hi, can you please tell us which RosV7 you are using on your x86? and what Fiber sfp+ nic card you are using? and which interface queues you are using?
CHR licensing looks so much better and flexible
I am a bit cheap so don't change your business model for my sake, but connecting the license to something else except the disk would feel more comfortable. Like an actual hardware token or just any thumbdrive that is not used by the system but needs to be inserted and acts like a hardware token.
I love MT, hate power consumption and I'm not requiring the performance a dedicated computer provides so I'm not the targeted customer anyway.
Thank you anyway! Had I not gotten in to the embedded systems this feels like a nice way to try router os out.
So buy SLC thumbdrive, put routeros on it with the license and it will act exactly as a hardware token. For the duration of your life. What is the problem? I think bonding to drive is a good idea.
@@D9ID9I not for the remainder of my life.... For the remainder of the thumbdrive's life.
That said, Router OS version s probably not going to write that much to the draft ve and wear it out, so it might not be an issue anyway
@@dennisolsson3119 There is no chance to wear out SLC thumbdrive with RouterOS during your life. So your life.
@@D9ID9I point taken. And I later realized they have the cloud licence too.
Only if you add zerotier support for x86. But too bad
and for CHR 😄
working with a docker, ive done it on my x86 RouterOS.
Thanks so much for making the software available to download for non Mikrotik hardware. I buy from companies that give back to the community. So I now buy Mikrotik hardware because I know the company helps not hinders the users.
What if we wish to add some third party Wi-Fi adapter, will you help to add drivers also?
It is any way to use a wifi adaptor on that RouterOs pc to share the internet via Wifi? Thank you
yes, of course!
@@mikrotik Where can i find the specific documentation? thanks
I prefer CHR instead of x86 because of durable licensing management
definitely makes more sense to install a VM and CHR onto the same hardware than install on the bare metal if a physical install tethers the license to something as volatile as a disk... maybe you could get more life if it can be installed on a raid volume, but then it might tie to the raid card of which its not unheard of to have a PERC card die...
I had no idea. I so love this. Thank you very much. Are there options to support arm64 as well? Like the OrangePi5 other models?
Guys, how about to bump speed for a free version of CHR to 10Mb/s? To make it anyhow usable on a very cheap VPS'es.
Do you have throughput and power consumption numbers versus LEDE/Linux and BSD running on the same system?
Dru from "Despicable Me" :D
what has been seen, can't be unseen :D
Hm... The drive it installs to is formatted with a single partition, and no boot partition. The result is that the router cannot boot once the USB drive is unplugged. Should I use a different Linux distro to partition the drive first, and then setup a EFI boot partition before installing RouterOS? I can't seem to find any best practices on this.
what do you mean the license can't be used on another server ? are you lost in translation ? the license should be transferable!
Just what I'm doing now but, why Mikrotik, why? No Docker Support on Partition inside 1 physical disk or Folder inside the disk. Please allow partitions on disk in X86 so we can install Dockers using just 1 disk. For example a Cloud Server that only allows 1 disk. Thanks
You can install docker on the same disk.
I installed it on Ryzen 5700G for sh*ts and giggles and failed to enable the containers feature(I did set it to “yes” from console) which seems to be limited to ARM or something - a bit weird, since this would probably be the best platform/architecture to have containers on. The limitation makes it less attractive against something like OPNsense.
That’s not true. Container feature works in x86 including your Ryzen. Consult the manual on how to use it help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Container
@@mikrotik I found now forum instructions and that one specifically mentions that "Extra packages" needs to be downloaded and manually copied to the device, then rebooted - this is implied in the docs but not explicitly mentioned for people not familiar with RouterOS.
Forum instructions are written by random people on the internet. Always follow the documentation instead. It mentions how to install it.
Paying for a license to get linux with a winbox gui feels like throwing money into fire.
I am making a mesh network with Mikrotik's proprietary HWMP+ protocol, and I want to know:
1.- If with HWMP+ it was possible to configure several vlans, that is, go through the wireless links with HWMP+ several vlans, if so, please tell me how it would be configured. Or you can only do HWMP+ over single VLANs.
2.- HWMP+ to resolve loops, is supported over RSTP or STP, since I can't get HWMP+ to resolve loops alone. @Mikrotik
Thank you for a very special video. Download in progress. :-)
I have 1 unit supermicro x9 board x9sca 16G RAM, E3-1230v2 cpu 8 threads, ssd 240GB. I have tried to install RoS x86 version 7.6 to SSD (in IDE mode), installation is success, but after rebooting RoS does not boot, curson at top level corner of the screen blinking, harddrive led blinking too, but the system does not start. Why ?
Can I have a budget friendly and decent performance hardware requirement for this, please?
does mikrotik sypport 4g m.2 and if does which models.Also does it support ARM
4:36 and that is a thing that happens, disks die, I had a few SSDs die on me already.
If for whatever reason I need to migrate my key, can I do that or do I need to buy a new one?
In that case you would have to ask Mikrotik support to transfer the license. Alternatively install CHR in a virtualized environment, as it has a more flexible license.
когда добавите поддержку второго поколения виртуальный машин на hyperV?
i installed ROS on a PC, after installation I can not access ROS. What am I doing wrong?
My pcle interface not detecting please help
I would pay for a portable license. I would not pay for a license tied to a SSH/HDD. It's just plain stupid.
It is already available. We have the CHR installation images, where license is tied to your account, not disk.
Great mini tutorial.
I really wish x86 and CHR had FastPath support.
CHR has FastPath support in v7
@@bproofsteel does that include for SR-IOV drivers ? E.g. igb, ixgbe, i40e and virtual functions
@@Andrew_Thrift Reportedly only for vmxnet3 and virtio. There was some work done recently on ixgbe support as well, so FP support may as well have been silently added.
who needs fastpath ? if you have 2nd hand Dell R910 and R920 with 4 cpu slots up to 48cores 2.8ghzs per core with 96threads??? slam in 4 dual XDA520-da2 sfp+ fiber nic cards make it faster then CCR1072.. for half the price.. who knows..might throw in a 25Gbps or 40Gbps fiber nic for WAN access from ISP of 100G fiber nic card if your hardware support
I‘m interesseted in RouterOS on Hyper-V
Check out the CHR-Version. It is a special virtualization-license router-os router that is much simpler licensed and not bound on hardware (disk). It is availlable in much disk-versions or as ova-package.
@@frankh.4420 у mikrotik на Hyper-V есть поддержка только первого поколения виртуальных машин(
See, now I'm thinking of replacing my RB4011 with a Dell OptiPlex 3040 Micro running ROS...
a physical router is much more power-efficient than a x86 server system and many times smaller with mostly more ethernet interfaces than these x86 hardwares :-) But you CAN do that ;-)
aren't you just running a virtual router ? I would not think that a software based router could come anywhere close to the performance of a router whose hardware was designed explicitly for routing.
Most certainly not. x86 can be very powerful for routing. The "designed for routing" mostly means a dedicated switch chip, possibly hardware acceleration, a certain number and type of interfaces. But in raw performance, the most powerful x86 systems will beat most regular routers. We have users that are routing more than 100Gbits with x86
5 of 10 boot stuck at loading system
How can the pc become a router when it doesn't has extra lan ports ?
You can add any number of LAN cards in your PCI slots
@@mikrotik you can add 4096-2 VLANs to your LAN Card
If I used it on proxmox and buy license key..
If my proxmox was deleted reformated to reinstall again or install it bear metal
Will I still be able to used my license in the same drive?
Only if you installed with the CHR VM image, that is designed for virtual machines like Proxmox. The CHR license is in your mikrotik.com account, and you can later assign it to a different virtual system. If you used the ISO file - then no.
@@mikrotik can this CHR VM image be installed on a bear metal? and its license I bought
example if I installed it on proxmox and buy its license..
and the time comes I want to install on bear metal can I used that CHR VM image and its license to be used on my bear metal machine x86?
No, for CHR you need some sort of hypervisor
@@mikrotik I the mean the licenses used in CHR that I bought can be used on an ISO image?
No, CHR license is only for CHR. If you run it in a CHR installation in Proxmox, you can only move the license to another CHR type installation, like another Proxmox, VMware, HyperV, etc.
I have a small 0.5L desktop which only accept m.2 NVMe SSD, Can I install RouterOS on NVMe. SSD ?
yes
@@RB01-lite Are you sure you can install RouterOS on baremetal with NVMe SSD, not on proxmox or ESXI ?
@@mjsun42 If you have a UEFI that can access NVME disks, then you can install it just like you could any other OS.
@@RB01-lite thanks！Will try again. Tried before, never made it.
@@mjsun42 I did, works fine but significantly more limited than something like OPNsense - containers and ZeroTier didn’t work for me(ARM-only).
Hello guys , Please Help us With user manager , take video about it pls
Ok.... so when that drive crashes, and I have to replace it, I have to buy a new license again?????
No, you simply have to request a replacement key through your Mikrotik account, it will cost you $10.
@@mikrotik but requesting for it will take some time, right ? as an ISP we can't even wait for 1 day as we most likely will lose customers.