Excellent analysis! Demons is one of my favorite books and it was a wild ride reading. I think what stuck with me the most is that we're seeing the events of Demons play out today. There are so many people like Pyotr Stepanovitch in the world who are filled with crazy ideas and seek violence to fulfill their goals. We see people like Shatov who choose to leave behind old beliefs. This book was written almost 200 years ago yet it is eerily similar to what we see today.
I like that the videos are getting past the 30 minute mark. Gives me something to listen to for a longer period of time and makes me think that what I’m listening to is really in depth and was produced through a lot of hard work and time. Thank uou
So i actually bought my first book outside of school. I was one of the people that said 'thank god i dont have to read another book' after finishing grade 12, but after watching your videos on some of dostoevsky's work you sold me. Thanks for that
@God thanks dude, love to hear people in the community are glad to have others making good decisions. Honestly, were you tired or something when you wrote that comment because I'm getting sleep deprived tones
Just finished this today. Happily surprised to see such a recent video summarizing and analyzing this undervalued novel. Thank you for the solid work. I didn’t realize how recent it was until I heard that Shatov Will Smith’d Nik. 😂
السلام علیکم The video was splendidly represented. Chuckled a few times due to your stupendous commentary too XD I'm a sophomore rn and love literature exorbitantly. But due to the syllabus restrictions I can't freely explore more and more, hafta stick on the curriculum ones first. Videos like these are my only source of knowledge regarding literature from different parts of the globe. And I'm utterly obliged to you for providing the Urdu subtitles also! Rarely I get to see 'em at such channels جزاک اللہ خیرا! - из Индии
Oh man, now I want to read this book! I've read a few of Dostoevsky's books before; Crime and Punishment, Notes from the Underground, The Gambler, House of the Dead and White Nights. I have The Brothers Karamazov on my bookshelf, I'm not quite ready to take on that monster though. Lol. Great summation! You have a way of putting Dostoevsky's work into perspective and making them fit into modern times...
I started the brothers karamazov the other day and finished the first 'book'. I think it's gonna take a few reads especially considering i only just started reading again after finishing school, but i highly recommend.
Man you just saved my life, I had to write a six page essay on this and I didn’t have a clear understanding of this book at all but you depicted it in such a literate and thought out way. THANK YOU SO MUCH
I am not a reader of novels (my brain doesn’t work that way) but I have come across articles and videos discussing “Demons”, according to which the revolutionary Sergey Nechayev (1847-1882), a Russian revolutionary who spent the last ten years of his life in prison, was the model for Pyotr. One chapter in “The Russian Tradition” by Tibor Szamuely is entitled “Nechaev and the Rise of Leninsm”, and describes how he radicalized not only his fellow prisoners but also the guards. A lesson for today, not widely appreciated.
Have you listened to the audio version of notes from Underground? It's here on RUclips. It's translated by Constance Garner and read by Bob Newfeld. I urge anyone to check it out.
I have read Dostojewski in my youth and then once again about 30 years later. I agree with about everything you say in your analysis. Very well done. 👏 The connection to Putin is very interesting and might help to understand what's going on today.
It was excellent analysis. I just finished the book & in our book club I have to talk about this book. This video is so handy. Explaining all Demons in society & inside us humans. His predictions about Russian revolution is remarkable. We come across Personalities like Puter & Shatof even now. I enjoyed yr talk & will definitely follow yr channel.
Thank you for this breakdown- I found it extremely useful. I have to admit I found it difficult following some of plots details, even if I was able to engage with wider themes like the psychology of revolutionaries and the warnings about hedonism, nihilism, moral decay, socialism and trusting those who hunger for power. This was a great help in consolidating my understanding of the novel- thanks again
I literally finished demons this evening and Ive found this video very helpful..there where a lot of points in the book that I didnt quite follow..worth a re read or 2 I think
I absolutely love this book. It's definitely Dostoevsky's slowest and baggiest imo. It's hard to pick up on a couple of things throughout the texts, such as the whole fillibusterov/fillibuster chapter? Didn't really catch on there yet.
We’ll done friend. Summarizing Demons is like summarizing quantum mechanics, but you managed it fantastically. For me, Kirillov was the most profound part of the novel. With him, Dostoevsky seems to have subtly destroyed the Privatio Boni idea. And the the Aquinas idea of good being solely subjective.
He recognized proponents of the revolution for the spiteful mutants and resentful freaks that they are without the last almost 2 centuries of them demonstrating this to reference. Truly the greatest psychologist, as Nietzsche noted.
Dostoevsky was a bit childish in the way he caricatured Turgenev. Despite the ominous mood, I thought this was a human comedy. In this rather chaotic story, detailed depictions of unimportant people, for example those who were involved in the killing of Shatov, is also a significant feature. (p.s.) I later learned that T has refused to lend D money when he was destitute, so no wonder.
Yeh this great book...yet still revolution happens.. ironic that the lack of proper education is what allowed communist talking points to seduce all the muscle they needed
It is said that language shapes our thoughts. In your opinion what special characteristics (if any) does the Russian language have that facilitates the creation of such great novels?
That's an interesting question. There might be. But I think it is more to do with the culture and climate. Also 19th century russia was a collision between Russian and French languages. When two things come together, there is a spark.
I am reading in now. I am about half way. And from this great chanel, I dont't mind some spoilers. It just makes me more entusiastic about the story the book is telling. I am reading it In Swedish. I do wish I knew russian. Imagine to read all this great classical writers in their original language. Useful to know french though. Quite alot french sentences wich are not translated. Easy enough to understand. Translated right of in Swedish it is called "Evil spirits" why? I don't know. It is an amazing book.
Chat GPT: Dostoevsky’s "Demons" (also known as "The Devils" or "The Possessed") explores the theme of radical ideologies and the dangerous consequences of extremist ideas. This sheds light on the modern trope of **the dangers of ideological fanaticism or extremism**. In "Demons," Dostoevsky portrays a group of radicals in a provincial Russian town who become increasingly consumed by their revolutionary ideals, leading to chaos, violence, and moral corruption. The novel critiques the seductive power of ideologies that promise utopia but ultimately bring about destruction and suffering. This theme resonates with several modern tropes, including: 1. **The Corrupting Power of Ideology**: The idea that unwavering adherence to a particular ideology can lead individuals to commit immoral acts, believing them justified by their cause. 2. **The Cult of Personality**: The depiction of charismatic leaders who manipulate ideological fervor to gain power and control over others. 3. **Revolutionary Zeal and Disillusionment**: The narrative of initial enthusiasm for revolutionary change turning into disillusionment and chaos as the realities of implementing radical ideas take their toll. 4. **Moral Ambiguity and Ethical Dilemmas**: The exploration of the ethical complexities and moral ambiguities faced by individuals caught up in extremist movements. These tropes are relevant in contemporary discussions about political extremism, terrorism, and the impact of radical ideologies on society. Dostoevsky's examination of how "the idea" can become dangerous highlights the potential for ideological movements to lead to fanaticism, illustrating the destructive potential of ideas when they are pursued without regard for human life and moral considerations.
Lenon was like a Jesus like Zapata fighting for the people but not guarded by loyalists walking in a depiction alone and that's not power or wise taking the position he did.
Nikolai is a far deeper, intricate and fundamentally paradoxical character than his depiction in this video would make you believe, and the video does not convey how he is the central axis around which the entire novel spins.
I just started watching your videos and you have an amazing talent for summarizing and adding to these books and philosophies. Keep up the amazing work man.
this is my favorite dostoevsky novel though I know it's far from being considered his greatest believe your analysis of its meaning is very accurate it's supposed to be the most violent in sheer numbers of fatalities one of the things I love about it is the fact that the author is a master psychologist who understood the attractions of ideas like atheism and socialism for some people (including me) know it was banned in the soviet union for yrs because it was too close to the truth also know for many his bks are way too melodramatic and wild but I find them thrilling⚛😀
This gave a different insight on Nikolai Stavrogin. Interesting. I always had the impression he wasn't actually too keen on joining Pyotr, but I didn't realise it goes on that deep as to he is hiding dark family secrets and desires.
The analysis was great overall, though I have a few complaints. I wish you would have included the censored chapter "At Tikhons" as it adds an astronomical amount of depth to Stavrogin and what he represents, and makes him a far more terrifying and complex character. Probably the best chapter in the book, so I wish you would have included it in your analysis. I also disagree with a point you made. You said that Putin is a big fan of Dostoevsky, and consequently agrees with his ideas about the west, but is that necessarily true? If I recall correctly Nietzche, who's ideals aren't in agreement with Dostoevsky also praised him, and Stalin loved The Brothers Karamazov, despite him being the antithesis to Dostoevsky's ideas.
Appreciate the comment. Dostoevsky didn’t like the westernized Russian intellectuals and western liberal or socialist ideologies in general, thus disliked the harmless Turgenev whose works I love immensely. I don’t judge Dostoevsky for that. I love his fiction despite his strong nationalism. It’s not clear whether Putin likes him for his nationalism or fiction. As a RUclips creator I do my best to give a balanced view so people can be the judges themselves. Great writers are widely respected for their craft but often used as a tool by politicians to promote certain ideas.
Before I made my top 100 favorite books list, I would have said "Dostoevsky is my favorite author" but in the making of my list it turns out Ivan Turgenev is my favorite author. TOP ONE HUNDRED (100) BOOKS "The Holy Bible: King James Version" copyright 1967 1) "Verbal Behavior" by Dr. B. F. Skinner 2) "The Idiot" by Fyodor Dostoevsky 3) "Fathers and Sons" by Ivan Turgenev 4) Myth Adventures - series by Robert Asprin 5) The Chronicles of Narnia - series by C. S. Lewis 6) "War and Peace" by Leo Tolstoy 7) "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 8) "Smoke" by Ivan Turgenev 9) "Roots" by Alex Haley 10) The Silmarillion - The Hobbit, or there and back again - The Lord of the Rings - Middle Earth stories by J. R. R. 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Tommy is a young person, whom Eli pays to suck his blood so that the vampire need not hunt or kill while watching her love, Oskar, from afar, to keep Oskar from danger of bullies at his middle school. Tommy is scared and fascinated that an entity desires to suck his blood. So I would suggest reading the following books, which I wish I could have written: "Fathers and Sons," "Smoke," "Virgin Soil," "Torrents of Spring," and "First Love."
@@Fiction_Beast, thank you. I love Russian literature more than any type, but there is some great sci-fi along with behavioral books for the understanding of humans. Finally, some history books, apologetic books about religion, and math books needed to be fit in the list. I love your voice as my best friend in childhood was Guhan Venkatu from India, but born in America. We were best friends from four years old to almost eleven years old.
A signifikant point is that dostojewski had to put a chapter about stavrogin out cause of censorship There you can actually read that stavrogin rapeda a 8_10 year old girl and that most of his most desperate thoughts come ftom this After the Sex the girl say i think i killed the god And stavrogin Was before his suicide by a preacher and wanted actually publish the Story about the raped girl But AT the end He couldnt I think There was one little mention in the book(without the chapter) where There s a small ditail about Kids mention from shatov to stavrogin
The girl killed herself few days after the raping. Stavrogin could at least try to prevent it but he didn't and that was one of the reasons why he eventually killed himself too.
People dismiss philosophy as doctrine if you that minimal you can't appreciate the insites and expand never be held in a self snare but a tool needed for a issue to be fixed takes well you should know better I'm no mechanic.
This is an excellent video overall. I've read Demons more than once and also have read Fathers and Sons. Turgenev's idea of nihilism doesn't seem like the same nihilism that we have come to know from Dostoevsky or Nietzsche. Turgenev presents a form of modern western liberalism, something that is imperfect but nevertheless fundamentally benign. Authority is distrusted, which has the pitfall of taking one's own authority over some more overarching religious belief or ethical code based in philosophy. The nihilism of Dostoevsky and Nietzsche is a darker thing altogether. In that, all moral authority is rejected in favor of a surrender to completely selfish motives. We've seen the disastrous results this can have when this kind of nihilism is the guiding principle of a powerful authority figure, such as Stalin or Hitler or even some contemporary figures whom I shall not name for fear of starting some kind of flame war. A problem is how to discuss a moral code meaningfully in some general way. I don't think it's necessary of follow any particular religion to be moral. My late sister was an atheist; she never harmed any one. She seems more righteous to me than somebody who would persecute some one who belongs to the "wrong" religion, is the "wrong" gender, the "wrong" sexual orientation or the "wrong" color. They are the people who make the world a more miserable place. Does morality have anything to with religion or rational philosophy? Certainly not any specific one. The Golden Rule has been expressed by Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, and even much lessor figures. One could start down this path by recognizing the truth without regard to the person who tells it.
A problem with perennialism is the refusal of embodiment- by picking and choosing, you lose the hard traditions that transform oneself. You also lose communion by creating a hybrid of religious traditions. I think religions can be messy, but I dunno, life is messy. Part of life is dealing with that messiness, and the messiness of those around you.
i think morality fundamentally doesnt need religion or ideology. Religion or a moral authority solidifies morality and punishes those who break the moral code. I think most people if left to their own devices would not harm others, but when individuals get entangled with a group, tirbe, insitutions, or mobs, people lose their indviduality and become a unified force which can do great things but also aweful things. Since we are social creatures, a moral authority (god, religion, or ideology) seems inevitable. As a species our default state is not individualism but tribalism. I could be wrong.
I have just finished this book and it's a masterpiece in my view. However I've never thought that Karmazinov was Turgenev. I thought it represents the westernized, greedy and boring artists of old times.
Youth should be suffered for the later year's of switch of the Guards as the Elders aren't always allowed themselves to admit mistakes how will they teach solution for the love of country is for the people.
Я читал и Бесов, и Отцов и детей. На самом деле ненавижу Бесов. Я вообще люблю Достоевского, но эта книга очень не понравилась мне. Наоборот я люблю Отцов и детей. Я согласен с тобой, что Тургенев писал красивее Достоевского, особенно в этих книгах. Какая твоя любимая книга Тургенева?
I’m amazed that I actually read and understood your Russian. I’m glad you’re on the same page as me when it comes to Turgenev. To answer your question, I love all of his works. Fathers and sons is a masterpiece. Sportsman’s sketches is a beautiful book. But if I have to pick, I think first love is amazing for such a short work. So that’s my pick if you really have to force me.
@@Fiction_Beast Hahaha I thought you were a native Russian speaker b/c you start your videos with a bit of Russian each time, though your accent doesn't quite sound Russian.
BUT WELL DESCRIBED BY THE GOLDEN EYE OF THE MAN WEAVING IT IN A HIGHER LEVEL REVEALS HIS MIND OVER LENNON WOULD PROVE A LEADER IS NOMINATED BY THE WEAK AND NOT THE WISE NO PUN INTEND TO THE RUSSIANS AS WE ALL STRUGGLE OUT OF IDLENESS.
@@Fiction_Beast i support nietzche and fascism i am so angry that fyodor still has a grave when hitler doesnt. russian people arent gods. philosophers are mortal entities too.
Demons is about revolutionairy forces, Putin is not a revolutionairy force. W o k e ism Nahtzees and the like are revolutionairy forces, if one doesn't get that, you can do reviews all one likes but it entirely misses the point...
over all bad analysis, very euro centric points of view, many important points left out; feel like theyre left out on purpose (pyotr is possesed by power and chaos, he even states he sees himself as a bandit, not a socialist) to not disturb your thesis but yeah its an okay video, worth watching for those who read it, def not worth it if you havent read it -- feels like a tabloid article on a century capturing novel
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Excellent analysis! Demons is one of my favorite books and it was a wild ride reading. I think what stuck with me the most is that we're seeing the events of Demons play out today. There are so many people like Pyotr Stepanovitch in the world who are filled with crazy ideas and seek violence to fulfill their goals. We see people like Shatov who choose to leave behind old beliefs. This book was written almost 200 years ago yet it is eerily similar to what we see today.
I cant stop thinking about how Shatov was finally happy just before he died.
when i read that part i was hoping that virginsky would help him escape but what actually happened destroyed me
I know 😢
@@Kooboo10 same, I just felt so bleak. Especially that it described how his family ended up in pretty much just a few sentences.
I love your references to popular media. It’s actually super appropriate, as Dostoevsky’s ideas relate perfectly to our current era.
Thank you! Our subconscious hasn’t changed.
I like that the videos are getting past the 30 minute mark. Gives me something to listen to for a longer period of time and makes me think that what I’m listening to is really in depth and was produced through a lot of hard work and time. Thank uou
I really appreciate your feedback.
I finished reading "The demons" today. Your video has come just in time. Thank you. It was a great and thoughtful episode.
Great! Thank you
So i actually bought my first book outside of school. I was one of the people that said 'thank god i dont have to read another book' after finishing grade 12, but after watching your videos on some of dostoevsky's work you sold me. Thanks for that
That is awesome!
@God thanks dude, love to hear people in the community are glad to have others making good decisions. Honestly, were you tired or something when you wrote that comment because I'm getting sleep deprived tones
You will not regret it, have fun reading it
@@lossnt557 Ignore that kind of comment, good on your for deciding to read. It is an enriching hobby and I hope you get a lot out of it.
I like how you have intertwined current events/issues with these novels. Goes to show ‘there is nothing new under the sun’. Thank you
Thank you
Thank you so much! As a fan who had requested this video in the past, I'm so glad you actively listen to your community :)
Thanks for the idea!
Just finished this today. Happily surprised to see such a recent video summarizing and analyzing this undervalued novel. Thank you for the solid work. I didn’t realize how recent it was until I heard that Shatov Will Smith’d Nik. 😂
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it :)
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The video was splendidly represented. Chuckled a few times due to your stupendous commentary too XD
I'm a sophomore rn and love literature exorbitantly. But due to the syllabus restrictions I can't freely explore more and more, hafta stick on the curriculum ones first. Videos like these are my only source of knowledge regarding literature from different parts of the globe. And I'm utterly obliged to you for providing the Urdu subtitles also! Rarely I get to see 'em at such channels
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Oh man, now I want to read this book! I've read a few of Dostoevsky's books before; Crime and Punishment, Notes from the Underground, The Gambler, House of the Dead and White Nights. I have The Brothers Karamazov on my bookshelf, I'm not quite ready to take on that monster though. Lol. Great summation! You have a way of putting Dostoevsky's work into perspective and making them fit into modern times...
I started the brothers karamazov the other day and finished the first 'book'. I think it's gonna take a few reads especially considering i only just started reading again after finishing school, but i highly recommend.
Thank you so much!
This summary was absolutely brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you!
Appreciate it.
Man you just saved my life, I had to write a six page essay on this and I didn’t have a clear understanding of this book at all but you depicted it in such a literate and thought out way. THANK YOU SO MUCH
I am not a reader of novels (my brain doesn’t work that way) but I have come across articles and videos discussing “Demons”, according to which the revolutionary Sergey Nechayev (1847-1882), a Russian revolutionary who spent the last ten years of his life in prison, was the model for Pyotr.
One chapter in “The Russian Tradition” by Tibor Szamuely is entitled “Nechaev and the Rise of Leninsm”, and describes how he radicalized not only his fellow prisoners but also the guards. A lesson for today, not widely appreciated.
Was praying for this video. So glad it’s here!
Awesome. Thanks for watching.
I think this is the best Dostoevsky book. But, i haven't read BK yet. Saving that one for last :)
Have you listened to the audio version of notes from Underground? It's here on RUclips. It's translated by Constance Garner and read by Bob Newfeld. I urge anyone to check it out.
Read it and may become your new favourite.
BK is my fav… but Demons is a close second.
TBK is amazing. By far his best
Brothers Karamazov is my favourite, read it during winter, maybe it will become your favourite too...
Thanks
Thank you!
I have read Dostojewski in my youth and then once again about 30 years later. I agree with about everything you say in your analysis. Very well done. 👏
The connection to Putin is very interesting and might help to understand what's going on today.
Glad you enjoyed.
Would you ever consider a video on Dostoevsky's least discussed novel, The Adolescent?
It was excellent analysis. I just finished the book & in our book club I have to talk about this book. This video is so handy. Explaining all Demons in society & inside us humans. His predictions about Russian revolution is remarkable. We come across Personalities like Puter & Shatof even now. I enjoyed yr talk & will definitely follow yr channel.
No mention of At Tikhons? That is a pretty instrumental part of Stavrogin’s character.
Thank you for your summary, analysis, and humor. Very good
I like the presentation
Thank you for this breakdown- I found it extremely useful. I have to admit I found it difficult following some of plots details, even if I was able to engage with wider themes like the psychology of revolutionaries and the warnings about hedonism, nihilism, moral decay, socialism and trusting those who hunger for power. This was a great help in consolidating my understanding of the novel- thanks again
Your summary has inspired me to read it a second time....well done, as usual...
Perfect! I'm wondering what Dostoevsky would after seeing your video !
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I literally finished demons this evening and Ive found this video very helpful..there where a lot of points in the book that I didnt quite follow..worth a re read or 2 I think
I absolutely love this book. It's definitely Dostoevsky's slowest and baggiest imo. It's hard to pick up on a couple of things throughout the texts, such as the whole fillibusterov/fillibuster chapter? Didn't really catch on there yet.
Wonderful!
We’ll done friend. Summarizing Demons is like summarizing quantum mechanics, but you managed it fantastically. For me, Kirillov was the most profound part of the novel. With him, Dostoevsky seems to have subtly destroyed the Privatio Boni idea. And the the Aquinas idea of good being solely subjective.
He recognized proponents of the revolution for the spiteful mutants and resentful freaks that they are without the last almost 2 centuries of them demonstrating this to reference. Truly the greatest psychologist, as Nietzsche noted.
Dostoevsky was a bit childish in the way he caricatured Turgenev. Despite the ominous mood, I thought this was a human comedy. In this rather chaotic story, detailed depictions of unimportant people, for example those who were involved in the killing of Shatov, is also a significant feature.
(p.s.) I later learned that T has refused to lend D money when he was destitute, so no wonder.
Respect to the Russian intelligence 👏🏼 thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge of life's work in progress.
Yeh this great book...yet still revolution happens.. ironic that the lack of proper education is what allowed communist talking points to seduce all the muscle they needed
What a twisted sick character it was this Kirillov 😅
It is said that language shapes our thoughts. In your opinion what special characteristics (if any) does the Russian language have that facilitates the creation of such great novels?
That's an interesting question. There might be. But I think it is more to do with the culture and climate. Also 19th century russia was a collision between Russian and French languages. When two things come together, there is a spark.
I am reading in now. I am about half way. And from this great chanel, I dont't mind some spoilers. It just makes me more entusiastic about the story the book is telling. I am reading it In Swedish. I do wish I knew russian. Imagine to read all this great classical writers in their original language. Useful to know french though. Quite alot french sentences wich are not translated. Easy enough to understand. Translated right of in Swedish it is called "Evil spirits" why? I don't know. It is an amazing book.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I’m also curious if Dostoevsky is big in Sweden
You are the best my man 🍁🍂 I read this novel but did not understand it well. Thank you for clarifying the picture 🍁🍂
Chat GPT: Dostoevsky’s "Demons" (also known as "The Devils" or "The Possessed") explores the theme of radical ideologies and the dangerous consequences of extremist ideas. This sheds light on the modern trope of **the dangers of ideological fanaticism or extremism**.
In "Demons," Dostoevsky portrays a group of radicals in a provincial Russian town who become increasingly consumed by their revolutionary ideals, leading to chaos, violence, and moral corruption. The novel critiques the seductive power of ideologies that promise utopia but ultimately bring about destruction and suffering.
This theme resonates with several modern tropes, including:
1. **The Corrupting Power of Ideology**: The idea that unwavering adherence to a particular ideology can lead individuals to commit immoral acts, believing them justified by their cause.
2. **The Cult of Personality**: The depiction of charismatic leaders who manipulate ideological fervor to gain power and control over others.
3. **Revolutionary Zeal and Disillusionment**: The narrative of initial enthusiasm for revolutionary change turning into disillusionment and chaos as the realities of implementing radical ideas take their toll.
4. **Moral Ambiguity and Ethical Dilemmas**: The exploration of the ethical complexities and moral ambiguities faced by individuals caught up in extremist movements.
These tropes are relevant in contemporary discussions about political extremism, terrorism, and the impact of radical ideologies on society. Dostoevsky's examination of how "the idea" can become dangerous highlights the potential for ideological movements to lead to fanaticism, illustrating the destructive potential of ideas when they are pursued without regard for human life and moral considerations.
This is gold!
Lenon was like a Jesus like Zapata fighting for the people but not guarded by loyalists walking in a depiction alone and that's not power or wise taking the position he did.
Thanks so much for video.
Nikolai is a far deeper, intricate and fundamentally paradoxical character than his depiction in this video would make you believe, and the video does not convey how he is the central axis around which the entire novel spins.
I just started watching your videos and you have an amazing talent for summarizing and adding to these books and philosophies. Keep up the amazing work man.
Thank you so much.
Very very nice
this is my favorite dostoevsky novel though I know it's far from being considered his greatest believe your analysis of its meaning is very accurate it's supposed to be the most violent in sheer numbers of fatalities one of the things I love about it is the fact that the author is a master psychologist who understood the attractions of ideas like atheism and socialism for some people (including me) know it was banned in the soviet union for yrs because it was too close to the truth also know for many his bks are way too melodramatic and wild but I find them thrilling⚛😀
beautifuly spoken thank you for the story
amazing truly, i just finished it😊
Thanks! I needed a diversioin.
Thanks bro. Ur last words are same to my master read read read Dostiovesky ....thanks
A Fifty Shades of Grey reference in the analysis of a Dostoevsky novel?
LOL. That's wild.
This gave a different insight on Nikolai Stavrogin. Interesting. I always had the impression he wasn't actually too keen on joining Pyotr, but I didn't realise it goes on that deep as to he is hiding dark family secrets and desires.
At Tikhon's chapter
obrigado por legenda os video
The analysis was great overall, though I have a few complaints. I wish you would have included the censored chapter "At Tikhons" as it adds an astronomical amount of depth to Stavrogin and what he represents, and makes him a far more terrifying and complex character. Probably the best chapter in the book, so I wish you would have included it in your analysis. I also disagree with a point you made. You said that Putin is a big fan of Dostoevsky, and consequently agrees with his ideas about the west, but is that necessarily true? If I recall correctly Nietzche, who's ideals aren't in agreement with Dostoevsky also praised him, and Stalin loved The Brothers Karamazov, despite him being the antithesis to Dostoevsky's ideas.
Appreciate the comment. Dostoevsky didn’t like the westernized Russian intellectuals and western liberal or socialist ideologies in general, thus disliked the harmless Turgenev whose works I love immensely. I don’t judge Dostoevsky for that. I love his fiction despite his strong nationalism. It’s not clear whether Putin likes him for his nationalism or fiction. As a RUclips creator I do my best to give a balanced view so people can be the judges themselves. Great writers are widely respected for their craft but often used as a tool by politicians to promote certain ideas.
@@Fiction_Beast why didn't you include "At Tikhon's" in your analysis?
@@SumitKumarrr1 I think you should learn some manners...
@@diegocolomes why? I just asked a question.
Thank you.
Before I made my top 100 favorite books list, I would have said "Dostoevsky is my favorite author" but in the making of my list it turns out Ivan Turgenev is my favorite author.
TOP ONE HUNDRED (100) BOOKS
"The Holy Bible: King James Version" copyright 1967
1) "Verbal Behavior" by Dr. B. F. Skinner
2) "The Idiot" by Fyodor Dostoevsky
3) "Fathers and Sons" by Ivan Turgenev
4) Myth Adventures - series by Robert Asprin
5) The Chronicles of Narnia - series by C. S. Lewis
6) "War and Peace" by Leo Tolstoy
7) "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
8) "Smoke" by Ivan Turgenev
9) "Roots" by Alex Haley
10) The Silmarillion - The Hobbit, or there and back again - The Lord of the Rings - Middle Earth stories by J. R. R. Tolkien
11) Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov
12) "Eugene Onegin" by Alexander Pushkin
13) "Crime and Punishment" by Fyodor Dostoevsky
14) "Paris 1919: six months that changed the world" by Margaret MacMillian
15) "Virgin Soil" by Ivan Turgenev
16) "Pride and Prejudice" by Jane Austen
17) The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn - by Mark Twain
18) Old Mother West Wind series - wildlife series by Thornton Burgess
19) "Microbe Hunters" by Paul de Kruif
20) "Cancer Ward" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
21) "Kon Tiki" by Thor Heyerdahl
22) "From Beirut to Jerusalem" by Thomas Friedman
23) "The Berdine Un-Theory of Evolution: and Other Scientific Studies Including Hunting, Fishing, and Sex" by William C. Berdine
24) "Interview with the Vampire" by Anne Rice
25) "Torrents of Spring" by Ivan Turgenev
26) "Mere Christianity" by C. S. Lewis
27) "Emma" by Jane Austen
28) "In the First Circle" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
29) The Beatrix Potter books - animal story series by Beatrix Potter
30) "27" or "Siebenundzwanzig" by William Diehl
31) "A River Runs Through It" by Norman Maclean
32) "Les Misérables" by Victor Hugo
33) "Winnie the Pooh" by A. A. Milne
34) "Little Women" by Louisa May Alcott
35) "The Diary of a Young Girl" by Anne Frank
36) "Papillon" by Henri Charrière
37) "The Onion Field" by Joseph Wambaugh
38) "Silas Marner" by George Eliot
39) "Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything" by Steven Levitt
40) "The Black Tulip" by Alexandre Dumas
41) "A Child called 'It"" by Dave Pelzer
42) "Life on the Mississippi" by Mark Twain
43) "Les Liaisons Dangereuses" by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos
44) "Cloud Atlas" by David Mitchell
45) “Red Dragon” by Thomas Harris
46) "First Love" by Ivan Turgenev
47) “Sense and Sensibility” by Jane Austen
48) "Where the Red Fern Grows" by Wilson Rawls
49) “The Complete Tales of Uncle Remus” by Joel Chandler Harris
50) “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” by Robert Louis Stevenson
51) “Frankenstein” by Mary Shelley
52) “Science and Human Behavior” by Dr. B. F. Skinner
53) "The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956: an Experiment in Literary Investigation" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
54) “Persuasion” by Jane Austen
55) “The Autistic Child: Language Development Through Behavior Modification” by Dr. Ole Ivar Lovaas
56) "Jude the Obscure" by Thomas Hardy
57) The Riddle-master of Hed Trilogy - trilogy by Patricia A. McKillip
58) “Fragile Success: Ten Autistic Children, Childhood to Adulthood” by Virginia Walker Sperry
59) "Middlemarch" by George Eliot
60) “Let the Right One In” by John Ajvide Lindqvist
61) "Number the Stars" by Lois Lowry
62) "Treasures of the Snow" by Patricia St. John
63) "Turnley reading system based on Sonsils: A system of sound instruction by which a child can learn to read well in one year or less" by Francis R. Turnley
64) "A Confession" by Leo Tolstoy
65) "A Christmas Carol" by Charles Dickens
66) "As a Man Thinketh" by James Allen
67) "Positive Behavioral Support: Including People with Difficult Behavior in the Community" by Dr. Lynn Kern Koegel, Dr. Robert L. Koegel, & Glen Dunlap (Editor)
68) "Animal Farm" by George Orwell
69) "Applied Behavior Analysis" by John O Cooper, Timothy Heron, and William Heward
70) "It takes a funny man: The best of Bill Berdine" by William C. Berdine
71) "Charlotte's Web" by E. B. White
72) "Bloodthirst" by J. M. Dillard
73) "White Fang" by Jack London
74) "Acia" by Ivan Turgenev
75) "The Complete Adventures of Curious George" by Margret Rey & H.A. Rey
76) "Meaningful Differences in the Everyday Experience of Young American Children" by Dr. Betty Hart & Dr. Todd Risley
77) "Madeline" by Ludwig Bemelmans
78) "Treasure Island" by Robert Louis Stevenson
79) "The Men Who Lost America: British Leadership, the American Revolution, and the Fate of the Empire" by Andrew O'Shaughnessy
80) "Pudd'n Head Wilson" by Mark Twain
81) "In Cold Blood" by Truman Capote
82) "The Complete Works of William Shakespeare" by William Shakespeare
83) "Poor Folk" by Fyodor Dostoevsky
84) "The Mathematical Universe: An Alphabetical Journey Through the Great Proofs, Problems, and Personalities" by William Dunham
85) "The Trial" by Franz Kafka
86) "Autism: From Tragedy to Triumph" by Carol Johnson & Julia Crowder
87) Hank the Cowdog - series by by John R. Erickson, Illustrated by Gerald L. Holmes
88) "The Social World of Children Learning to Talk" by Betty Hart & Todd R. Risley
89) "The Year of the Perfect Christmas Tree: An Appalachian Story" by Gloria Houston
90) "Flipped" by Wendelin Van Draanen
91) "The Captain's Daughter" by Alexander Pushkin
92) "A Princess of Mars" by Edgar Rice Burroughs
93) "Heidi" by Johanna Spyri
94) "Perspectives in Behaviour Modification with Deviant Children" by O. Ivar Lovaas
95) "Let Me Hear Your Voice: A Family's Triumph over Autism" by Catherine Maurice
96) "Rudin" by Ivan Turgenev
97) "Black Beauty" by Anna Sewell
98) "Five Golden Rules: Great Theories Of 20th Century Mathematics And Why They Matter" by John L. Casti
99) "White Nights" by Fyodor Dostoevsky
100) "Generalization and Maintenance" by Robert Horner, Glen Dunlap, and Robert Koegel
101) "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel
102) "The Black Stallion" by Walter Farley
103) "The Call of the Wild" by Jack London
104) "On the Eve" by Ivan Turgenev
105) "Volodya" by Anton Chekhov
106) "Kolyma Tales" by Varlam Shalamov
107) "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" by Victor Hugo
108) "Teaching Individuals with Developmental Delays" by O. Ivar Lovaas
109) "Teaching Language to Children with Autism or Other Developmental Disabilities" by Mark L. Sundberg & James W. Partington
TommyLovesEli is my moniker on Goodreads because "Låt den rätte, komma in," a Swedish book, meaning "Let the Right, Come In" but translated as "Let the Right One In" in English, got me reading again. Tommy is a young person, whom Eli pays to suck his blood so that the vampire need not hunt or kill while watching her love, Oskar, from afar, to keep Oskar from danger of bullies at his middle school. Tommy is scared and fascinated that an entity desires to suck his blood.
So I would suggest reading the following books, which I wish I could have written: "Fathers and Sons," "Smoke," "Virgin Soil," "Torrents of Spring," and "First Love."
This is an awesome list.
@@Fiction_Beast, thank you. I love Russian literature more than any type, but there is some great sci-fi along with behavioral books for the understanding of humans. Finally, some history books, apologetic books about religion, and math books needed to be fit in the list.
I love your voice as my best friend in childhood was Guhan Venkatu from India, but born in America. We were best friends from four years old to almost eleven years old.
Thank you for your list
A signifikant point is that dostojewski had to put a chapter about stavrogin out cause of censorship
There you can actually read that stavrogin rapeda a 8_10 year old girl and that most of his most desperate thoughts come ftom this
After the Sex the girl say i think i killed the god
And stavrogin Was before his suicide by a preacher and wanted actually publish the Story about the raped girl But AT the end He couldnt
I think There was one little mention in the book(without the chapter) where There s a small ditail about
Kids mention from shatov to stavrogin
ruclips.net/video/8QbCPG44Xdg/видео.html
Here s a 2014 Part from a Film demons from russia where There did act the unreleased chapter
The girl killed herself few days after the raping. Stavrogin could at least try to prevent it but he didn't and that was one of the reasons why he eventually killed himself too.
Hi.... can you please confirm if the constance garnette translation has the censored part???
If not... then which translation to look into?
Would love to see Josef Conrad reviewed.
16:36 Karamazinov
I was waiting for this one but of course RUclips didn’t notify me the site is drunk again lol
Yeah it happens. I usually turn on the notification bell.
@@Fiction_Beast it’s gotten to the point where even that becomes spotty lol
My favorite book
In the Slovak language, the word besnota means rabies, it has the same word root as the word besy.
That's very interesting. Now my analogy has roots in a Slavic language. Cool
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People dismiss philosophy as doctrine if you that minimal you can't appreciate the insites and expand never be held in a self snare but a tool needed for a issue to be fixed takes well you should know better I'm no mechanic.
why wont this play?
Perhaps it’s age restricted because I talk about self deletion mentioned in the novel.
This is an excellent video overall.
I've read Demons more than once and also have read Fathers and Sons. Turgenev's idea of nihilism doesn't seem like the same nihilism that we have come to know from Dostoevsky or Nietzsche. Turgenev presents a form of modern western liberalism, something that is imperfect but nevertheless fundamentally benign. Authority is distrusted, which has the pitfall of taking one's own authority over some more overarching religious belief or ethical code based in philosophy. The nihilism of Dostoevsky and Nietzsche is a darker thing altogether. In that, all moral authority is rejected in favor of a surrender to completely selfish motives. We've seen the disastrous results this can have when this kind of nihilism is the guiding principle of a powerful authority figure, such as Stalin or Hitler or even some contemporary figures whom I shall not name for fear of starting some kind of flame war.
A problem is how to discuss a moral code meaningfully in some general way. I don't think it's necessary of follow any particular religion to be moral. My late sister was an atheist; she never harmed any one. She seems more righteous to me than somebody who would persecute some one who belongs to the "wrong" religion, is the "wrong" gender, the "wrong" sexual orientation or the "wrong" color. They are the people who make the world a more miserable place.
Does morality have anything to with religion or rational philosophy? Certainly not any specific one. The Golden Rule has been expressed by Jesus, Buddha, Confucius, and even much lessor figures. One could start down this path by recognizing the truth without regard to the person who tells it.
A problem with perennialism is the refusal of embodiment- by picking and choosing, you lose the hard traditions that transform oneself. You also lose communion by creating a hybrid of religious traditions. I think religions can be messy, but I dunno, life is messy. Part of life is dealing with that messiness, and the messiness of those around you.
i think morality fundamentally doesnt need religion or ideology. Religion or a moral authority solidifies morality and punishes those who break the moral code. I think most people if left to their own devices would not harm others, but when individuals get entangled with a group, tirbe, insitutions, or mobs, people lose their indviduality and become a unified force which can do great things but also aweful things. Since we are social creatures, a moral authority (god, religion, or ideology) seems inevitable. As a species our default state is not individualism but tribalism. I could be wrong.
@@Fiction_Beast Amazing statement!
I have just finished this book and it's a masterpiece in my view. However I've never thought that Karmazinov was Turgenev. I thought it represents the westernized, greedy and boring artists of old times.
Youth should be suffered for the later year's of switch of the Guards as the Elders aren't always allowed themselves to admit mistakes how will they teach solution for the love of country is for the people.
It's the next book I will read so I better don't watch this video now 😅 Always great to watch what you post man 👏
Yes,
Btw check out Jose Marti poems
Я читал и Бесов, и Отцов и детей. На самом деле ненавижу Бесов. Я вообще люблю Достоевского, но эта книга очень не понравилась мне. Наоборот я люблю Отцов и детей. Я согласен с тобой, что Тургенев писал красивее Достоевского, особенно в этих книгах.
Какая твоя любимая книга Тургенева?
I’m amazed that I actually read and understood your Russian. I’m glad you’re on the same page as me when it comes to Turgenev. To answer your question, I love all of his works. Fathers and sons is a masterpiece. Sportsman’s sketches is a beautiful book. But if I have to pick, I think first love is amazing for such a short work. So that’s my pick if you really have to force me.
@@Fiction_Beast Hahaha I thought you were a native Russian speaker b/c you start your videos with a bit of Russian each time, though your accent doesn't quite sound Russian.
Oh no! Our country is in the midst of a civil war! Wait..Will Smith did whaat/!😂you always make my day.❤
Glad someone enjoy my half baked jokes
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Demons is hilaaaaaarious!!!
BUT WELL DESCRIBED BY THE GOLDEN EYE OF THE MAN WEAVING IT IN A HIGHER LEVEL REVEALS HIS MIND OVER LENNON WOULD PROVE A LEADER IS NOMINATED BY THE WEAK AND NOT THE WISE NO PUN INTEND TO THE RUSSIANS AS WE ALL STRUGGLE OUT OF IDLENESS.
stalin burned the books of fyodor or at least tried to how did they survive.
Source.
During WW2, Dostoevsky's anti-western views became popular due to war with Germany. Stalin read brothers karamazov many times.
@@Fiction_Beast i support nietzche and fascism i am so angry that fyodor still has a grave when hitler doesnt. russian people arent gods. philosophers are mortal entities too.
@@Fiction_Beast nietsche>>>>>fyodor.
@Jonathan Jobin yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lenin did not like the book.
That means you should be reading it.
The only Demons are humans
Demons is about revolutionairy forces, Putin is not a revolutionairy force. W o k e ism Nahtzees and the like are revolutionairy forces, if one doesn't get that, you can do reviews all one likes but it entirely misses the point...
Did u just say
cheap for Dostoevsky
lool
Jeez
does a Will Smith 🤣🤣
over all bad analysis, very euro centric points of view, many important points left out; feel like theyre left out on purpose (pyotr is possesed by power and chaos, he even states he sees himself as a bandit, not a socialist) to not disturb your thesis but yeah its an okay video, worth watching for those who read it, def not worth it if you havent read it -- feels like a tabloid article on a century capturing novel
Mr Shat off
You are awesome man. Can't thank you enough for enriching my life.
Wow, thanks