How Boston's Big Dig survived President Ronald Reagan's 1987 veto

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @GBHNews
    @GBHNews  Год назад +13

    What memories do you have of Reagan's involvement in the Big Dig?

    • @interstellarphred
      @interstellarphred Год назад +7

      Appointing a most unqualified Secretary of Transportation In Elizabeth Dole.

    • @robertfetrow4612
      @robertfetrow4612 Год назад +1

      @@interstellarphred You mean appointing a conservative which you hate? We understand

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Год назад

      Never got the Globe to bring Reagan linked to the tunnel. . But again, at the outset, I was barely out of the boat. And not too soon , Teleprompter reading Reagan was on his way out and replaced by comatose Bush ( probably one of our best president in foreign policy , yet a total disaster in domestic affairs ).
      Regan’s idea of pork barrel was “Star Wars “, that pie-in-the-sky plan to create some aerial shield against missiles that never got off the ground . Such an hypocrite. Bush actually, in fairness, cut the defense budget , which lead to increase in consolidation and M&A s amongst defense contractors.
      Clinton actually capitalized a lot on the big dig, even through was not his initiative.. I remember him making a few more trips to Boston around then . Construction was at full steam and he campaigned a lot through the region, collecting campaign funds.

    • @interstellarphred
      @interstellarphred Год назад +7

      @@robertfetrow4612 you can stereotrump all you like, which only demonstrates ignorance; She knew nothing about transportation except that during her tenure, the federal investment in Conrail paid back all the loans, and was making a profit, thus an embarrassment to the popular ideologue demagoguery. and sought to quietly sell it off before anyone noticed.

    • @interstellarphred
      @interstellarphred Год назад +3

      @@robertfetrow4612 Hate is more of a right wing thing; projecting?

  • @omrail
    @omrail Год назад +44

    This series on the big dig was incredibly fascinating story of the history of it. As a young teen I’m western Canada I was very fascinated and intrigued about the big dig. Thank you for the incredible backstory that led to its construction.

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад

      Thank you for listening! We are so glad you enjoyed it. Stay tuned for more.

  • @openmind763
    @openmind763 3 месяца назад +5

    These two, Reagan and Tip O'Neil knew how to work with each other despite their disagreements.

  • @stephenbruce8320
    @stephenbruce8320 Год назад +20

    I moved out of MA as the Big Dig was coming to its completion, honestly when I lived in MA, I could drive from Worcester to Boston in about hmm 40 minutes and it would take longer than that drive just to make it to Logan. Once the new tunnel opened it was an absolute blessing. Now I relocated to GA and driving through Atlanta with its 6 lanes is as bad as Boston use to be with all the highways merging and only 3 lanes. Oh man Atlanta blew my mind 6 lanes and where I20 intersects with I70 and I85 it's a major nightmare and being from MA all I could thing is how could this be. All I know right now is getting in and out of Logan is a cake walk and while I have not been home in quite some time I hope and pray it's a breeze and if that be the case then the Big Dig is worth its weight in gold. I have traveled all over the USA and while the Interstate system is nice its way too congested, and we really need to focus on public transportation. Being from Worcester I can tell you I would ride the bus before driving my car if the buses could get me to where I needed to be. Where I live now there is no public transportation so you had to have a car to get around and I only live 2.5 miles from work, I would walk but there are no side walks, I would ride a bus but (sigh) not busses here and everyone driving thinks its NASCAR so not exactly safe to walk along side of a road.

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 Год назад

      Plenty of videos here on RUclips about how the US f***ed itself (with lots of help from the auto & oil industries) by going car- and highway crazy after WW2. (Thanks a lot, Ike!) Too many negative effects to believe we went down this road (literally): suburban sprawl, economic segregation, degraded environment, etc. I live in NYC and I thank GOD I don't need to own a car here! (I've visited Boston a lot & you have a pretty healthy mass transit system - it's one of the few places I wouldn't mind moving to if I ever left NYC.)

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      Okay, I first encountered that 6-lane hwy in high school & immediately thought ATL was crazy!

  • @alexmarshall942
    @alexmarshall942 Год назад +18

    Love this series! As aProud Masshole, born and raised, the depth of history to be learned here is incredible. Keep ‘em coming!

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад +2

      More to come! So glad you're enjoying the series.

  • @nekodromeda
    @nekodromeda Год назад +7

    As a later transplant (moved in 07), I only know the post-Big-Dig Boston. It's absolutely WILD to see what it used to look like. I'm looking forward to when we get to its effect on the buildings immediately around it - I imagine all the people working in the financial district breathed a big sigh of relief when traffic stopped rumbling right outside their windows

    • @shininggreentea
      @shininggreentea Год назад +2

      My dad is the only one who got to drive/see on the Central Artery in my family and he very much prefers the Greenway. It's pretty and made the surrounding places so much better (esp. Chinatown by the gate & North End). He was so happy to show my mom and I the Zakim bridge and the new airport tunnel when we first immigrated to Boston. When the Greenway "opened" in 2008, it felt like a new era as well, with Obama coming in as president (or soon at least).

  • @qazatqazah
    @qazatqazah Год назад +8

    Thank you! What a great series. I can't wait until the next episode is released.

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад +1

      So glad you enjoyed it! More to come!

  • @matiasdonoso4425
    @matiasdonoso4425 Год назад +9

    This is fantastic! And thanks for adding footage of the main events.

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад

      You’re welcome! More from The Big Dig and the GBH archives landing here each Wednesday.

  • @scottg.g.haller3291
    @scottg.g.haller3291 Год назад +25

    I'm really digging this podcast! 😉
    I lived in Boston in the late 80s and while certainly aware of the traffic problems, was frankly oblivious to all of the groundwork for the tunnel. This comprehensive look is very eye opening!
    These RUclips videos are quite engaging. Obviously these podcasts are all about the audio, so much of the time there's just stock footage of Boston traffic (my shoulders tense up from the triggered memories) -- but when there's synch footage of people such as O'Niell or Reagan it's so powerful to see them in action. (Young Mitch McConnell is still pretty creepy...)

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад +2

      We're so glad you "dig" it! We are experimenting with the visuals we use on these posts, so stayed tuned for more.

  • @mathiasormestadfrendem5246
    @mathiasormestadfrendem5246 Год назад +3

    This podcast is fantastic. I really cannot stop listening!

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад

      Thanks for listening!

  • @WoodT92
    @WoodT92 Год назад +1

    Yo this pod is lit. I’m learning a lot

  • @robertfetrow4612
    @robertfetrow4612 Год назад +1

    The series has been amazing. Great job all around. Do more stuff like this. I could watch this stuff all day

  • @openmind763
    @openmind763 3 месяца назад +1

    ...by working together with the people on the other side of the Isle, instead of insulting each other.
    Divisiveness is not going to solve the American middle class and the poorest of Americans' problems.

  • @Hollandsemum2
    @Hollandsemum2 4 месяца назад +1

    In the summer of 95 or 96, I was in Boston for a few days. On the way to Logan for the return trip I realized I'd firgotten to retrieve something from the hotel office. Given the dig, getting it was impossible. It had to be sbipped.
    I'm actually a good navigator, but it was such a mess that I had know idea how the driver knew where he was. It was just dirt, gravel, and orange cones & fencing everywhere.

  • @tomdonahue8110
    @tomdonahue8110 7 месяцев назад

    Great job with this series. Amazing behind the scene look at all the pieces/people that were a part of this.

  • @EdisonRex
    @EdisonRex Год назад +1

    This series is really excellent. I am looking forward to further episodes.

  • @christopherdonahue6594
    @christopherdonahue6594 Год назад +3

    Excellent series!

  • @jphilbin528
    @jphilbin528 Год назад +3

    Thank you for this. Fascinating podcast.

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад

      Thank you for listening!

  • @Bugm-kn9sv
    @Bugm-kn9sv Год назад +1

    Why did I watched the 2 other episodes and this one back to back, sure I’m a Bostonian but I never knew how different this city is to the rest of the nation

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault Год назад +9

    Preserved forever in the B-roll at 43:13 is one car hitting another at the bottom of the screen.

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault Год назад

    Amazing work, again. Can't wait for the rest.

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for sharing a great guy!!😊😊

  • @interstellarphred
    @interstellarphred Год назад +10

    This was the time frame when the railway link was eviscerated from the long term vision, over much protest from transit advocates.
    It was always too early to talk about it; right up to the time it was too late. The Reagan administration was openly hostile to intercity rail, so it was thrown under the bus.

  • @ConvincedIdiot
    @ConvincedIdiot Год назад +3

    As a transplant from the south, who arrived after the BigDig finished, I have always wanted more context.
    Thanks for this, and keep it up!!

  • @patricequinn7733
    @patricequinn7733 Год назад +13

    The Big Dig has not lessened traffic! Cost over runs were terrible.
    Baker,who later "served" as Governor" as a "moderate" Republican,transferred 1.8 billion in debt from the cost over runs of the project onto the MBTA.(Overall cost over runs were VERY high and shoddy materials,leaks etc were a result of lack of proper oversight.That ballooning debt was disastrous over time.
    Baker, the "charming moderate. later presided over a dismal management(or lack thereof) of the MBTA. He has contempt for pubic transit and public projects and public depts in general.
    It's unfortunate that "big" is considered impressive,regardless of the actual value of a project.

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 Год назад +2

      A gigantic boondoggle. And in 1987 it was, at the FHWA's complication of 30 cents on the dollar in return, it was a $2.7 billion cost and $900 million in projected benefits. Imagine how much with $22 billion in construction costs!

    • @David-wc5zl
      @David-wc5zl Год назад +7

      They didn't understand "more lanes = more traffic". More importantly, there's no reality where cars don't mess things up by default. They're expensive, huge and require too much space waiting to be used again.

    • @jamesmcpherson3924
      @jamesmcpherson3924 Год назад +2

      It is a microcosm of the whole highway system and a harbinger of the consequences of discounting externalities.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      Are you including the populations & densities of both time periods? Because it's easy to see from the old footage that it's better

  • @edwardmiessner6502
    @edwardmiessner6502 Год назад +6

    Had Reagan's veto stuck Boston might have a more robust MBTA system, electrified commuter rail, and a north-south railway link. The 93 viaduct in Charlestown, the Leverett Circle Connector, the Central Artery in Charlestown and Downtown Boston, and the Southeast Expressway Albany Street viaduct would all have been torn down because of LACK OF FUNDING FOR PROPER MAINTENANCE.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Год назад +1

      These projects are slowly getting funding. Medford Green Line extension , extending the Commuter Rail through New Bedford.

    • @IkeOkerekeNews
      @IkeOkerekeNews Год назад +7

      Or more likely, we would have none of those things plus a Big Dig.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 Год назад

    What a roller coaster ride.

  • @nonelost1
    @nonelost1 Год назад +3

    The other (western) terminus of I-90 had also gone through quite a bit of legal drama to get completed. Plans were first drafted in 1963 and construction started later during the '60s. But from 1973 until 1982, construction of the last 7 miles from the eastern shore of the East Channel Bridge to Seattle's SoDo terminus was held up. During that time, Seattle drivers had to look at graffiti laden "ramps to nowhere" of the incomplete I-90/I-5 junction, and additional years of reversible lanes (which began in 1960) designed to ease rush hour traffic, but also causing fatal head-on accidents. But starting in 1982 , construction finally resumed, and was all but completed in 1993, despite the November 1990 sinking of the original Lacy V. Murrow I-90 floating bridge between Seattle and Mercer Island. It was undergoing renovation to be the new I-90 eastbound lanes when stormy weather and inept renovation practices sank the 1940 built bridge. Oddly enough, the Reagan administration moved IN FAVOR of it's completion. Go figure!

    • @bill8985
      @bill8985 Год назад +1

      Excellent comment and contribution!

  • @serafinacosta7118
    @serafinacosta7118 Год назад +1

    Rush hour from Logan to downtown before the Ted Williams tunnel ….30-40 minutes for a 5 mile stretch under the Harbor. When the new Southie Tunnel came online, 5 minutes.
    The old way, you had to wiggle through the busy North End tip by Hanover Street.
    The only inconvenience The Big Dig brought , during its construction phase , were the nearly daily changes in routes throughout downtown Boston.
    Suddenly, I am looking with a newly found appreciation towards America’s favorite boogeymen , Mitch O’Connell.

  • @Xsiondu
    @Xsiondu Год назад

    This is a great series

  • @Applecompuser
    @Applecompuser 3 месяца назад

    Great book. Saldy, mine was damaged in a flood.

  • @bsperoz
    @bsperoz Год назад +1

    5:30 The pictures are gone...

  • @4403323
    @4403323 Год назад

    I always wondered why there hasn't been any new highway built in decades. I didn't know the program had ended. The highway systems are not keeping up with the ever increasing traffic volume in big cities.

  • @paulsuprono7225
    @paulsuprono7225 Год назад

    I caddied for good ol' Tip O'Neill at the GHI ---> Greater Hartford Open, Summer 1977. The ol' times still are memorable. I carried his golf bag, 18 holes . . . He drove a golf cart ! 🏌️🇺🇲 🤪

  • @dfoleyusa
    @dfoleyusa Год назад

    This series is really good

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад

      Thank you for watching/listening.

  • @Deadbuck73
    @Deadbuck73 Год назад

    I just miss the Rock Of Boston. 104.1 WBCN FM.

  • @elijahculper5522
    @elijahculper5522 Год назад +10

    There is no aspect of American life that wasn’t made worse by Ronald Reagan.

    • @fredcollins8919
      @fredcollins8919 Год назад +3

      true yet nothing which cannot be fixed & fixing/reversing the damage is a vital & urgent MUST nationally

    • @jamessimms415
      @jamessimms415 Год назад +1

      God. bless President Reagan. We need someone like him now, more than ever.

    • @fredcollins8919
      @fredcollins8919 Год назад +1

      @@jamessimms415 How so?

    • @09rja
      @09rja 3 месяца назад

      I sure don't remember it that way. Best President of my lifetime.

  • @PlumpyDelicioso
    @PlumpyDelicioso Год назад +1

    I found it funny how the traffic footage is so repetitive. Like you can't acquire endless hours of traffic video in boston

    • @jb71577
      @jb71577 8 месяцев назад

      They probably didn't have access to much from the 80's
      I wish they had shown the interviews.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      🤨 How are you complaining? This is an audio podcast, & they were nice enough to bring back footage from old WGBH Big Dig segments

  • @curtismartell7959
    @curtismartell7959 Год назад +1

    i'm literally having flashbacks to the Reagan era and OMG McConnell enters the swamp

  • @bsperoz
    @bsperoz Год назад

    YAY!!! ACTUAL PICTURES ARE BACK!!?

  • @jared7723
    @jared7723 Год назад +1

    Excellent well crafted documentary voice over perfect great choice what a shitshow graduated 1999 high school locally and this project was worth it now bridge from Chelsea next project

  • @historyprofessor1985
    @historyprofessor1985 5 месяцев назад

    In spite of the opposition, he won Massachusetts' electoral votes in 1984........

  • @smokeythebear1633
    @smokeythebear1633 Год назад

    When is the next episode?

  • @TomSanderson100
    @TomSanderson100 Год назад

    They could do with a Speaker like Tip today

  • @johnduchesneau8685
    @johnduchesneau8685 Год назад +1

    Sam Rayburn was Speaker of the House for 20 years.

    • @GBHNews
      @GBHNews  Год назад +1

      You are correct! However, those years were not served consecutively. Thanks for listening to the podcast, and keeping us on our toes.

  • @thehighpointsofthestatesan9937
    @thehighpointsofthestatesan9937 Год назад +1

    RIP Brian Donnelly

  • @joekulik999
    @joekulik999 Год назад +6

    This video correctly reports that the 1956 Fed Hwy Bill initiated a phase of infrastructure spending unprecedented in American History. What this video doesn't tell you however is that even with all that money the Interstate Highway System was still built "on the cheap". The whole system was built with only an average life expentancy of about 60 years. 60 + 1960 = 2020. Does that tell you why Brandon was able to finally push through an infrastructure bill, now that the highway system is in its projected "twilight years" ??? The truth is that building a highway system with a 200 year life expentency in 1960 would have only required better quality materials and more of them. But the people in Washington back then thought that building better atom bombs and more of them was more important than building high quality infrastructure for The People.
    God Bless America !!!

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      The interstate was for the military, not "the people"

  • @MrMatteNWk
    @MrMatteNWk Год назад

    Ted to Terry: "Err-a I will drive you off a crappy bridge in your err-a state."

  • @bill8985
    @bill8985 Год назад +4

    When the devil looks you in the face and says, "clearly, you are the problem..." - that was actually Ronald Reagan, the biggest devil of them all.

  • @joshpatton2424
    @joshpatton2424 5 месяцев назад

    Let the grahics go, this is forever gbh

  • @LotharTheFellhanded
    @LotharTheFellhanded 5 месяцев назад

    Oh Ted put the screws to Sanford. There's no time to bribe him, it was threats.

  • @jxxxxx44
    @jxxxxx44 Год назад

    23:27 did bro just mack?

  • @jamesstaal673
    @jamesstaal673 Год назад +1

    I left Boston just as the Big Dig was getting underway. I haven’t explored the result. The failure to connect rail traffic through North and South stations is unforgivable. Since 2015, Governors Michael Dukakis and Willam Weld have championed getting the job done now. We would all be able to ride Amtrak from Maine to Florida without getting off the train except Boston makes it impossible. It was one of the most tremendous public transportation infrastructure failures of the twentieth century. It’s highly inconvenient, it wastes time and it wastes money, and, it’s fairly embarrassing. So last millennium.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      No one outside New England is begging to go to Maine.

  • @furryp2402
    @furryp2402 Год назад

    This was when America was great?

  • @bsperoz
    @bsperoz Год назад

    14:40 Yay! Videos that actually match the audio! (Even just a few helps...)

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 4 месяца назад +1

    In the US, the purpose of gov't is to meet the needs of "We the people," as determined by "We the people" through elected representatives. Reagan typifies hostility to gov't as service to the needs of "We the people" in service to organized wealth ever hungry for tax cuts they don't need.
    The Trump tax cut for the wealthy created an enormous deficit in service to 1 per cent of the population. And how do Republicans propose reducing the deficit? But eliminating gov't meeting the needs of "We the people".

  • @JcarlosDnava
    @JcarlosDnava 5 месяцев назад

    Mm wll need geet pay doble ok por su leata y trabajo ok

  • @Matty002
    @Matty002 Год назад +2

    no part of the country was safe from reagan.
    also its really funny hearing someone call montana 'out west', like california wasnt a state in the 80s or something😶

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      It IS west. California ain't the only state.

  • @stevesutton1991
    @stevesutton1991 Год назад

    All politics IS local? Why would I bother to watch this when the poster doesn't know when to use ARE and IS.

    • @can72287
      @can72287 Год назад +3

      It’s a direct quote from Tip O Neill. I would argue the use of “are” vs “is” is an example of elitism vs the common man…the common man more likely to use “is”; laying waste to grammatical rules; making a statement therein.

    • @stevesutton1991
      @stevesutton1991 Год назад

      @@can72287 bollocks

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Год назад +1

      Tip O’Neil was probably downing his Sunday doughnut and coffee by his favorite Donut Shope around Belmont, when he uttered this gramatical sacrilege, while tending to his locals . He got it done, while you are pestering about some gramatical nonsense.
      They Pahk the cash in that Havid Yard. Live with that.

  • @mns8732
    @mns8732 Год назад +1

    This might be the worst docu on RUclips

    • @jamessimms415
      @jamessimms415 Год назад +3

      No one except yourself, forced you to watchl

    • @WoodT92
      @WoodT92 Год назад +1

      Why do you think that. I’m interested to hear your point of view. I’ve been enjoying these first three episodes

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 5 месяцев назад

      Well it's not a documentary. It's a podcast, as is clearly stated.

  • @shawnwhitehead3062
    @shawnwhitehead3062 Год назад

    Yeah you can thank Tip O'Neill do you remember that that tunnel collapsed killing a woman

    • @can72287
      @can72287 Год назад +1

      The Panama Canal killed thousands. All complex infrastructure can lay claim to lives. The fact that only one passed is a miracle in the scheme of things.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Год назад +2

      The Haitian couple. God rest her soul. And no, the tunnel did not collapse. A tunnel ceiling concrete plaque suspended by a rusty and under dimensioned fasteners gave in and fell.
      Soil around the tunnel was clay and a lot of water from humidity seeped throughout various parts of the tunnel.
      The plaque crushed the car , and spare her husband, on the driver’s seat.

    • @jamessimms415
      @jamessimms415 Год назад

      ⁠@@serafinacosta7118. Should’ve been back in Haiti where they belonged

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Год назад +1

      @@jamessimms415 that is an awful thing to say at the expense of someone else’s tragedy.