Update: Cygames’ has responded As of right now: •Mjolnir nerfed, Crit only affect autos After 1/17 maintenance: •EVERYONE gets another Superlative tix (expires 1/22) •If you bought w/ moons before 1/17, you can get a full refund (moons, bars for uncap, other mats etc) In a later update they’ll introduce more decay after passing Soft DMG Cap Not surprised at all by this outcome, good to see them at least address it sooner rather than later I don’t have high opinions on Superlative weapons so I’m not the person to ask for ticket recommendations, sorry 🛌
Considering they had to increase the HP of GW bosses due to server load since basically everyone could do st that point 0B set ups and such, they will nerf it most likely, redo the cap formula or what not, cus while part of the stuff is expensive, you can get similar results with way less and this instance has made people rethink the how to even without Mjolnir, oro or SBubz, otherwise ln gw, servers are gonna explode like samsung galaxy phones
This is the best video explaining this by far, Good job. If they don't nerf it they'll just increase honor requirements for everything so I hope that they do.
@@miedori mjolnir 8x multiplier makes the invisible problem becomes visible. its easier to nerf mjolnir now than rewriting the entire dmg cap codes that doesnt guarantee it wont break the entire game. even if they succeed fixing the damage cap codes within a day, the output will be the same. you wont be able to do hundred of millions damage with a single skill with mjolnir or gae bulg or anything in turn 1
Everyone who picked it knows it gonna be nerfed. People advice to those who don't know much about know hows to not pick it. It's consequences of your own action.
@@miedori It was buffed in 2021 to make it work with skill nukes, they just reverted that change so that a really strong summon can stay really strong. 150 GM to get the summon (Through any other means than gacha) over 100GM on a weapon that was already extremely niche in current grids makes this a very well-thought decision.
The weapon and awakenings used to work in every element so for about 9 months every element would just use 4-6 of these to do all content in the game. Edit: To further elaborate, the weapon still does, the awakening does not
siete sword wasnt bugged yet they rebalanced the whole revans awakening. just because something is technically not a bug, doesnt mean the design isnt faulty. yes its not cheap and easy but ones who have access to these setups instantly widen their power gap from those who dont by a huge margin. so the real question here is "is this intended?"
Yeah it's a 100 GM weapon and you have to bar it if you didn't pick it from ticket. You also have the oro summon where it's only on rate up during release. Aren't they supposed to be strong? (There's not that much difference anyways, it's just big numbers in a really quick burst) I also agree that this isn't a bug, the damage formula works perfectly normal. But since this is quite a hubbub, do you think cyge should release a statement? (Whether it works normally or if they want to change some things)
Honestly... This is annoying. Just when I thought I made a pseudo fire setup (I call it pseudo because no yatima) for brick farm, this hit and makes the raids even faster. The problem is raids die too fast. Zoey is impossible these days without catura (which I don't have), pbaha and akasha also sped up significant. They should give everyone another weapon ticket on anni so we can all have mjolnir. As for logia... Save for a spark I guess
Nerfing the summon wouldn't do much as it's not the main cause of the issue. Nerfing Mjolnir would be a fix, but only temporary. Until the point where the powercreep makes it viable again. The only real solution is fixing the quirk of the damage formula allowing this behavior. What's I'm worried about is if they go another route, like not doing anything (unlikely) or introducing another stupid solution like a cap on damage inflicted per turn (it would impact everyone).
@hmm1-b5k Not everyone got Oro from free rolls (especially since it’s unsparkable) & the ticket only gets you, at best, the hammer for 1 element when it works in all 6 Someone getting lucky doesn’t make it not expensive in the general scheme of things
Its just like when Triple Zero first released. They applied Faa-san's cap to Sandal's Cap making the Sandalphon side call deal 5x the intended damage up to 33 - 65.6 million damage. This time, the Yearning Blue from Orologia's total 4,000,000 damage cap was applied to all skill instead of just that one last hit in the end of the 11 hit skill. This is because Orologia's YB skill change last hit supposed to deal different damage from the earlier 10 hit just like 000 Faa's is different from Sandal's.
No, Transcendent Blue is working as intended (people would have noticed right away on release, otherwise). This phenomenom has been known for years and some recently showcased it without Orologia or without Mjolnir. They only make it more viable, this kind of setup is just too slow otherwise, and often hard to achieve outside of the low def trial dummy. Everything is due to a few factors in my opinion: - Mjolnir's rebalance from 2021 causing its gigantic multiplier to apply on all damage. - The powercreep in recent years. - Summer Beelzebub last summer, which made it viable in baha hl (and started the current craze). - The superlative ticket(s), giving more people the chance to play with what everyone deemed to be a "meme" weapon. - And finally the extra nuke from Orologia. MC being the strongest character, the extra nuke is very beneficial in this scenario. The buffs from Orologia are just the cherry on top. And the worst part is: Everything is working intended. That's the core of the issue at play here, for Cygames. As many pointed out, the easy solution is to fix definetely the last soft cap. But what move will they do for people who invested heavily in this?
Least controversial change would be to nerf Mjonir. Lowering the crit ratio or making it a generic Amplify should do it, then work from there depending on what comes next. Other option would be to change crit. 100%/70% makes me think of a 1.70x multiplier, not an 8x multiplier. Would ruin crit grids but hardly anyone runs those anymore except maybe Magna Water.
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Update: Cygames’ has responded
As of right now:
•Mjolnir nerfed, Crit only affect autos
After 1/17 maintenance:
•EVERYONE gets another Superlative tix (expires 1/22)
•If you bought w/ moons before 1/17, you can get a full refund (moons, bars for uncap, other mats etc)
In a later update they’ll introduce more decay after passing Soft DMG Cap
Not surprised at all by this outcome, good to see them at least address it sooner rather than later
I don’t have high opinions on Superlative weapons so I’m not the person to ask for ticket recommendations, sorry 🛌
Mjolnir was only changed to work with skill nukes in 2021 so it hasn't always been possible.
people have been doing this without mjolnir for years
@@matu1157 Yea with over 50 turns in a training dummy abusing petrify and other gimmicks. Not the 4-5 button setups we have now.
Considering they had to increase the HP of GW bosses due to server load since basically everyone could do st that point 0B set ups and such, they will nerf it most likely, redo the cap formula or what not, cus while part of the stuff is expensive, you can get similar results with way less and this instance has made people rethink the how to even without Mjolnir, oro or SBubz, otherwise ln gw, servers are gonna explode like samsung galaxy phones
imagine being titman user and see that magna can deal more dmg than their setup
Just make the cap to 99.99% so fire can compete on proto baha again
This is the best video explaining this by far, Good job. If they don't nerf it they'll just increase honor requirements for everything so I hope that they do.
Wow this is incredible
so that's why so many mjolnir memes on X. Thanks for the explanation, one more sub for you
They nerfed Mjolnir hours after I picked it from the ticket. Great.
anyone who see caduceus manadiver knows it was 100% going to get nerfed/changed. why would anyone think they won't nerf mjolnir lmao.
@@Vi-bc9xx Except Mjolnir is not the real problem this time...
@@miedori mjolnir 8x multiplier makes the invisible problem becomes visible. its easier to nerf mjolnir now than rewriting the entire dmg cap codes that doesnt guarantee it wont break the entire game. even if they succeed fixing the damage cap codes within a day, the output will be the same. you wont be able to do hundred of millions damage with a single skill with mjolnir or gae bulg or anything in turn 1
Everyone who picked it knows it gonna be nerfed. People advice to those who don't know much about know hows to not pick it. It's consequences of your own action.
@@miedori It was buffed in 2021 to make it work with skill nukes, they just reverted that change so that a really strong summon can stay really strong. 150 GM to get the summon (Through any other means than gacha) over 100GM on a weapon that was already extremely niche in current grids makes this a very well-thought decision.
Thx for the explanation
If only I know this before picking Hercules...
What was the sette di spade situation if you mind elaborating?
The weapon and awakenings used to work in every element so for about 9 months every element would just use 4-6 of these to do all content in the game. Edit: To further elaborate, the weapon still does, the awakening does not
It was so strong because it worked in all ele
To the point where all grids were basically just sette grids
siete sword wasnt bugged yet they rebalanced the whole revans awakening. just because something is technically not a bug, doesnt mean the design isnt faulty. yes its not cheap and easy but ones who have access to these setups instantly widen their power gap from those who dont by a huge margin. so the real question here is "is this intended?"
Even this isn't bug... For me looking for my eres grid lose with Hammer with low accuracy, i still need to say "this is a BUG" 😅😂
i see some one testing with out mjolnir it still do a hugh of dmg anyway nerf mjolnir isn't the way
Yeah it's a 100 GM weapon and you have to bar it if you didn't pick it from ticket. You also have the oro summon where it's only on rate up during release. Aren't they supposed to be strong? (There's not that much difference anyways, it's just big numbers in a really quick burst)
I also agree that this isn't a bug, the damage formula works perfectly normal. But since this is quite a hubbub, do you think cyge should release a statement? (Whether it works normally or if they want to change some things)
Honestly... This is annoying. Just when I thought I made a pseudo fire setup (I call it pseudo because no yatima) for brick farm, this hit and makes the raids even faster. The problem is raids die too fast. Zoey is impossible these days without catura (which I don't have), pbaha and akasha also sped up significant. They should give everyone another weapon ticket on anni so we can all have mjolnir. As for logia... Save for a spark I guess
the funny part about this is you can't spark logia, you need to be extremly lucky or use 150gm in a siero tix
@frostleaf2143 rip then. My gold moons are back to zero. Can only pray for rng then
I wonder what they gonna do, if they nerf the summon..... Oh God I wonder what going to happen xd
Player would request a compensation ofc and maybe change in appearance to match the lore you know blue hair
I see there are player roll to 700 to 900 to get 1 orologia. so its going to set the sea ablaze
@@fajartirta4934 I seen worse on yatima summon banner someone spark 8 times
@@yogyomardiutomoskyriz2957 well thats 0.7% rate up for you
Nerfing the summon wouldn't do much as it's not the main cause of the issue.
Nerfing Mjolnir would be a fix, but only temporary. Until the point where the powercreep makes it viable again.
The only real solution is fixing the quirk of the damage formula allowing this behavior.
What's I'm worried about is if they go another route, like not doing anything (unlikely) or introducing another stupid solution like a cap on damage inflicted per turn (it would impact everyone).
Eh the things required are expensive in itself so i say let the people have fun thats the point of a game afterall
not really, got oro from a free draw and there's a free ticket for superlatives...
@hmm1-b5k Not everyone got Oro from free rolls (especially since it’s unsparkable) & the ticket only gets you, at best, the hammer for 1 element when it works in all 6
Someone getting lucky doesn’t make it not expensive in the general scheme of things
Its just like when Triple Zero first released.
They applied Faa-san's cap to Sandal's Cap making the Sandalphon side call deal 5x the intended damage up to 33 - 65.6 million damage.
This time, the Yearning Blue from Orologia's total 4,000,000 damage cap was applied to all skill instead of just that one last hit in the end of the 11 hit skill.
This is because Orologia's YB skill change last hit supposed to deal different damage from the earlier 10 hit just like 000 Faa's is different from Sandal's.
No, Transcendent Blue is working as intended (people would have noticed right away on release, otherwise).
This phenomenom has been known for years and some recently showcased it without Orologia or without Mjolnir. They only make it more viable, this kind of setup is just too slow otherwise, and often hard to achieve outside of the low def trial dummy.
Everything is due to a few factors in my opinion:
- Mjolnir's rebalance from 2021 causing its gigantic multiplier to apply on all damage.
- The powercreep in recent years.
- Summer Beelzebub last summer, which made it viable in baha hl (and started the current craze).
- The superlative ticket(s), giving more people the chance to play with what everyone deemed to be a "meme" weapon.
- And finally the extra nuke from Orologia. MC being the strongest character, the extra nuke is very beneficial in this scenario. The buffs from Orologia are just the cherry on top.
And the worst part is: Everything is working intended. That's the core of the issue at play here, for Cygames.
As many pointed out, the easy solution is to fix definetely the last soft cap. But what move will they do for people who invested heavily in this?
The real solution is to release Granblue 3
Least controversial change would be to nerf Mjonir. Lowering the crit ratio or making it a generic Amplify should do it, then work from there depending on what comes next.
Other option would be to change crit. 100%/70% makes me think of a 1.70x multiplier, not an 8x multiplier. Would ruin crit grids but hardly anyone runs those anymore except maybe Magna Water.
There's a dirt mh called crab grab that has 2.30x crit in exchange of not multihitting, that's too harsh
@@Pokemonmovemaster
Making it 70% would be criminal cuz other superlative spear name Gaeblog or something doing 100%/200% guaranteed