@Victor I think most of us are aware that Georgia is a country. Legitimately... most watching this kind of stuff would know, having at least some interest in global affairs. It's just very confusing when it's not specified, as Georgia is also one of the more well-known states in our own country. Not to mention it has a reputation for drugs and partying. Actually very similar in that regard. So it wouldn't be surprising if this same documentary was about Georgia, USA.
In Portugal, where I’m from we had a drug crisis in the 80s and 90s and after the government tried many different approaches, it decided to decriminalise drugs and shift the perspective to addiction being a mental health problem rather than a criminal issue and drug addicts are patients rather than societal outcasts and since then drug mortality has decreased dramatically. I know each country is different and what may work for some may not work for others but if anything this documentary shows that strict anti drug laws are not the solution here..
I always thought the users aren't the ones to be locked up. It should be the dealers. However, the info for dealers comes from plea bargains with the users.
i live in Portugal too for the past 12 years and I really admired this approach. but we have to accept the fact that synthetic drugs is so much more dangerous now and it’s spreading with a crazy speed. i dont propose to arrest the users now, but i think the police shall be controlling now somehow the amount of substances they find on someone and not as before. metadon therapy is great, but with the designer drugs i wish it would be more invested into rehabs.
@@AG-kz4lw I don’t think that’s a good idea: penalizing people for possession and checking them into rehabs just because. We have a different culture when it comes to drugs, (for light drugs) they probably will toss what they found on you away and check you CC to find your background. When it comes to hard drugs, they will help your addiction, for example, by providing clean needles to people on the stress. Users also have access to Methadone and other support. Users will only get clean if they want to and the best way to that is by offering help, not penalized them for their struggle. I saw a documentary about this a few years ago, where Canada was thinking of implementing what we do!
Николай they pay for the elevator because it is not government owned. Also it is not owned by a company. So for maintenance and keeping the elevator going the technician must be paid and therefore the money which is collected in the elevator the technician can do his work.
@@FeelLuckyToday Thats interesting. Are elevators commonly dangerous or of poor working condition in Georgia ? Im going to look up old euro elevator history now and the safety mechanisms behind them.
Drug regulation must occur within the health system rather than the criminal system. Anyone who actually cared about the impact of drugs on society would understand that.
I’m from Georgia, And whatever the Vice is showing right now is all real. Thank you Vice for making people hear about us even more. We’re a small country and this means a lot to some of us. Much love from Georgians🇬🇪❤️.
There's so many sides to drug addiction. It's not as easy to fight as some make it out to be. It's not just don't do drugs, it's how to calm down the cravings. If you want to know what's it's like, do the following: Go on a 24 hour fast. Mark down everytime you think about food and when you have cravings. Now, imagine that everyday for years. Cravings will drive you crazy if you have no support. I'm thankful that I'm celebrating 7 years of being clean. But, I STILL have cravings! I know now how to wok through them, but it's still hard sometimes.
There is more drug abuse in places with allot of poverty or lack of social rights etc. These things are connected aside from people with a tendency for addiction. MMO, mobile, casinos, other forms of gambling etc all use similar human addiction pattern, but they are often more successful in places were people crave escapism for different reasons.
Also if someone trying to get help with craving more then likely you need detox and you have to really be done like done. And as you find ur self not having withdrawals that doesnt feel like death your thought process wont be about getting the drug then you move on to the next step which will be how do you personally cope with cravings. But you need to understand that its not easy or everyone would be clean aka no addicts but i hate that word anyway. The thing that gets me is even the Docs know how hard it is to stop bcuz they litterly give you legal form of the synthetic drug. . I think government keeps drugs illegal cuz they make hell of money from the streets. Its the circle of drug life .
@@ХубаБуба-з9х I know about it, but it's in Russian. Non Russian speakers would probably be really interested to hear about it. Plus I wanna see vices interpretation of it
I completely agree with the concept "is your going to do drugs anyway, here is the safe and correct way to do so" that is how you reduce drug overdose or over consumption, people just take drugs without knowing anything about the drug
Yeah, but There's a stigma with it and misinformation about drugs makes people think you just take away the drug and everything will be fine. Like gun control all over the world, look at London. They're taking the knifes away because people are getting stabbed. Chicago, has some of the most strict gun laws and they have the most murder per capita almost every year. People will do what they want no matter what the laws are, let's focus on education and harm reduction instead of trying to eradicate things we don't understand or like.
Alcohol is a drug , regulated and unregulated markets are so different . I'm sure we all prefer alcohol to be regulated , experiments in the prohibition have been disastrous for all parties
@@googleuser9383 The "correct way of using a drug" he refers to is how to take it without adding further damage by taking it incorrectly. That's why he says something like "If you already have decided to use it, I will help you with information on how to cause the least damage possible." To give you an example, I think it will give you a maximum dose that you can take at once without becoming erratic and unable to control your actions. Or he might tell you to never have more than X amount on yourself to prevent a multi day bender that is guaranteed to increase the risks to your health and the likelihood of becoming temporarily insane without being actually enjoyable.
@Wutzmyname Mike what does PCP make people do? What does salvia make people do? I googled it and found no examples of a drug that makes people do a certain thing Edit: I just want to see what you actually think
I'm living in Republic of Moldova and all I want to tell you is synthetic drugs like alpha pvp and mephedrone in post-Soviet Union countries is the BIGGEST problem. Not only on Georgia. This is sad af.
Visited some friends in Tbilisi last year and this is 100% accurate. These guys are popping, smoking and drinking 7 days a week, what a f*cking holiday.
He is, actually. A demon masquerading as a priest. He's a remnant of soviet KGB that has been put in power by more powerful people and stayed there since... He brings nothing but suffering and confusion to our country. He frequently speaks about "healing" properties of this and that, but at the same time goes to Germany many times a year for who knows what, probably stem cell treatment from dead babies, I assume Anyway, he's evil in it's purest form
@@wernerbeinhart2320 not really so good, he was arrested for a made up reasons. the gov't basically fabricated his case. even the most liberal party was thinking of supporting him.
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Tbilisi is the last capital in Europe to deal with techno and drugs. Welcome to the club if i May say. I live in Tbilisi, a vibrant safe city who doesnt always take the best of the western values which are very liberal and cynical but the most of the youth dont idealize the west, they know ... they dont wanna be decadent like us but they dont want to be brain washed by the orthodox conservative neither. Techno had something to say in the west in the nineties ..it was our soundtrack, the begenning of " whats the meaning of all that ? Of having it all ? Why are we feeling bad in this neo liberal world ? Now we know.... Berlin , since 10 years became a disney land for young easy jet setter who just want to get high and piss everywhere with no respect. Paris is a musem, London is super expensive, Barcelona crowded, New York elitist and boring and so on ... It became mass touristics consumerists hedonistic boring clusters. People who were in Berlin left cause its getting expensive and nobody really have fun anymore, they just want to be "cool" People in Tbilisi struggle much more than we do in the west economically and this hard tech goes with their hard life. It's their soundtrack now. Techno is not expensive to produce, its their stuff, their emergency. Their moment. When you drive in Tbilisi listening techno, it makes sense. It doesnt in NY or Paris or London or Berlin anymore . Its just museums. Techno is tribal, direct, rough, true, honest, straight to the point, just like Tbilisi. This journalist make a good job, i like him, even if he obviously look like a little prince from the west, far away from the craziness of some people in Tbilisi. He has been " Gentrified" ;)) . Tbilisi will change too but i hope they wont end up depressed like us and individualist. I just hope they gonna keep the dignity they still have. Dzalian miqvars Sakartvelo, Dzalian momtsons ak vstkhovreba. Madloba kartvelebs. This country owns my heart. Im a french Georgia lover.
I’m 9yrs sober and sane from heroin and Crack… I felt ill watching dude smoke. I’m sharing that bc.. I don’t know 🤷🏻♀️ I’m glad Vice is talking about this tho
Jamie d I used to think about it a lot for the first few years, now it makes my stomach hurt, but it definitely gives me a emotional and physical response!
@@coliedeekenzo The point is Vice is talking about it. The same way another show was talking about it when you decided to ruin everyone's life around you. Basically what I said the first time.
7:13 paata is the only person in this video who even knows what he's talking about when it comes to the history and the current scene. He's been hip to the scene before they were even born. True OG.
Wow! That was some Ballsy investigative journalism! I’m so impressed with the transparency you were shown. These people are suspect (having known my own version of that kind of hell) of every person, friend, family, everyone...suspicious of motives, situations. Blacklisted and outlawed, everything is on the line. These laws in Georgia , and mandatory sentences, heavy probation for drug related charges, are only slightly more harsh than the USA. I’m an American. My heart goes out to these young people. It’s that lust for freedom, and self expression. Oppression’s balm is escapism in all its forms. Drugs being one.
Besides all the key points mentioned in the video, one more thing must be highlighted as well. Hardcore drug use doesn't simply start because someone wants to have fun. It becomes an escape in the maze of the place which you are born in and love, but which harms you because it cannot provide you with the opportunity to meet your basic needs. Having lived in Georgia for many years and having seen so many bright minds and extremely resourceful people being led towards depression, anxiety and mental health issues because of the overall political and social situation in the country, makes you wonder about whole existence and philosophy behind it. They seek for an escape to go to Western countries, but at the same time they can't leave their families behind. Many young people are trapped in this loophole and they are not even allowed to use most common clubbing drugs like MDMA and Ketamin... As mentioned in the video, you never know what you are getting whenever you buy certain substances and you have a high probability of going to jail in your early 20s just because people who are in charge have no sense of false knowledge. Thus, such videos are extremely important to raise the awareness around the drug related knowledge and also, providing deeper understanding of the root causes of drug abuse and addiction, will become helpful to come up with the effective solutions while fighting against it. I am very proud of the people in this video despite the fact that I don't know any of them. It takes balls to speak up and talk about such topics, while people who should be first to worry about overcoming these challenges are quite and even more, repressing the victims of the system they have created. I am pretty sure that Georgia and Georgian youth will overcome this phase and keep creating the precedent of letting ART, music and violence free activities, causing the change.
Not necessarily. I've seen people do hard drugs simply because they couldn't find what they really want. Imagine ending up a full blown meth head because you wanted to take a trip on shrooms which btw has numerous mental benefits.
@Will Fryer 2 Oh and since OP mentioned Ket that too has been used to treat addiction and medically at that. Aside from the enlightenment aspect of of tripping which isn't directly linked to beating addiction its a verifiable fact certain substances like shrooms have to ability to to reset the brain. If you had taken the time to understand the brains reward mechanisms you would know dopeamine detox is absolutly a real thing. 🙂👍
Yeah capitalism is awful, all of these places were doing much better than communism. Most people who lived through communism actually have a favorable opinion of it.
i was caught with almost that amount of mdma in Portugal. and since i was a foreigner and convinced them it was just for me and my friends, i just got a fine of 400 euros, which i never paid
When I was in Gerogia on a Metal Festival in 2016, the electricity was cut and the festival shut down by Orthodox Christian protesters. The festival then continued the next day in an old underground place in the center of Tbilisi instead. There I was hanging out with the vocalist from the band on the shirt the dude at 0:07 is wearing \m/ It was one of the best vacations ever
This is mad, whenever you prevent people from getting hold of pure mdma for clubbing purposes... people die. Time and again, why can't governments learn this
@@shaulstrait4313 people rarely die from MDMA, most of the times when they say some1 did its not mdma. but PMA. MDMA is incredibly safe to use. just dont drink 4L water during your trip and if feel its going wrong think happy thoughts. seriously read up before you start spouting bullshit. MDMA is relatively safe. you could argue alcohol is more dangerous.
@@holyjari you might not die, the physical and especially mental effects of using MDMA/xtc are very serious though. Jouw profielnaam is niet heel hoopgevend in ieder geval.
@@lillexus5589 ja zeer gevaarlijk die drugs voor mentale bevordering zeker. Zoek eens ff de geschiedenis ervan op. Alles kan gevaarlijk zijn btw. En alsof je online naam veel zegt, lil lexus. Met je purp drank pic.
@@holyjari dan lijk je toch niet zo heel veel van deze drug af te weten, want vooral de mentale schade die men op kan lopen na al 1x MDMA/xtc gebruik is enorm. Puur het feit dat iemand er niet aan dood gaat door fysieke complicaties maakt een drug nog niet veilig. Check eens even de videos op het kanaal van CG kid, iemand die tot in details uitlegt waarom het nou zo een foute denkwijze is om er vanuit te gaan dat MDMA onschuldig en zonder risico's is.
Absolutely loved that Paata dude.. As a now sober addict after 12 years of severe addiction to opioids and Benzos I must say that he is right.. The ONLY THING harsher drug laws has done is cost more ppl their lives and put more money in the pockets of dealers.. NO dealers want legalisation
Thats a lie lol areas with legalized cannabis have booming black market cannabis markets. Likewise of meth was legal, sudophed would be available in bulk again no questions asked immediately blowing past legal meth. The conversion rate of people from dealer>government is incredibly low (with people who try usually reverting back) because they can never compete with the price and unregulated purifies. It also lets people who were afraid before feel comfortable, and when people eventually want "the next level" they'll seek them out. Plus now they don't have to worry about getting arrested, can get ingredients way easier, and don't have constant stress and paranoia. Dealers LOVE legalization lol
@@dissraps Yeah true, in my country all the most wanted dealers are asking for it to be Legal on TV every week. XD They always ask for Legalization.. Whatever profits they make by price difference, they'll cover by being able to have their products to way more people, legally in stores, under brands etc. There will be black markets either way, Australia/NZ legalized some drugs because of that mindset, and it only made it worse they had to revert back from it, but the damage was too much and they still haven't recovered from that 15 ears after.
@dissraps Legalizing drugs doesn’t mean legalizing drug trafficking. You’re right that the black market is always there, but it will put a dent in profits.
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 It's not something I've ever come across in Western Europe, that's all I can say so it was a bit of a surprise. I know my grandmother had a coin operated stove in one of the places her and grandfather lived so it's not completely unheard of, I'd just never seen it in elevators before :)
@ lambo lover, Got it in one... The Government's don't want to win the war on drugs to much money for them to loose in the "So Called Battle on drugs!!"...😂😂😂
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This was a great video. Goes to show that the war on drugs only causes more death and pain. If the Georgian government would legalize drugs, and provide safe testing, they would eliminate Russian cartels, and unnecessary deaths, all while making money on taxes to return to the community.
I don’t think I’d call ANYWHERE in Georgia the capitol of anything. “Anyone who is anyone parties in Tbilisi!” 😂 I’m aware it exists which is more than 99% of the population knows about Georgia.
They want to use drugs, so they will use drugs. The government, its laws and the police are killing people to uphold an idealistic moral superiority that has no grounding in material reality.
@@youtuber7186 Without upholding such morals there would be a universal degradation - mental as well as physical. Laws should reflect the ideal, not the actual and corrupted. If you adjust laws to the worst facets of social reality, there are no aspiration and striving towards bettering yourself.
"if prison isn't working, it might be time to start considering other approaches" EXACTLY!! all that money they spend on locking people up can be used for treatment and keeping people safer. banning stuff just makes more dangerous stuff come around that isn't banned yet
I think the government here understands that, as they made weed legal 2 years ago. But the problem is the heavy Christian influence that holds the government back. This country is in the middle of two different generations right now. One very liberal and young, and one very conservative and old. In order for the government to stay in power, they need both sides to support them so they are trying to appease both.
Thomas Turner you can kill a million people, and a million more will take their place. you cannot get rid of users. once they're all gone, all the bottom rungs of society will be empty, and will need to be filled with other middle class people who are down on their luck because they've just lost all of their minimum wage workers. then in order to do the same grueling work that their past workers had to do, they would turn to drugs too, until you've cleansed the entire population.
i remember reading a story. a huge drug operation was running, and the police were never able to find them. their location was right next to the police office.
We do needs to decriminalize and educate people on drugs internationally. The guru is right. If youre going to get high youre going to get high. Might as well make it so people arent out here dying over getting high
I think only dealers should go to jail, while all the users & possessors go to rehab & therapy to get better. :-) Also, education about drugs & their dangers is very important, too. (Anyone remember D.A.R.E. & Red Ribbon Week?)
@CoolChannel Name this is the most startling comment I have read on youtube.... so what is your suggestion? What should we do to the 'unproductive' members of the society?
@CoolChannel Name they are leftists, pleasure seeking is all they live for. You are wasting your time trying to explain it. They want non-stop party at other people's expense. They are hedonists, they don't care.
@CoolChannel Name I do not want to live anywhere near people doing drugs and i don't care if they die or go to jail it is their choice. Just make sure that the don't sell drugs in prisons and lock them for 1-2 years. Rehab can work but 90% of thoose going will do drugs again and it is expensive so i do not care. If it is illegal and doing it in secret maybe we can save some kids and i don't have to look them cause they are hidding away from me.
Very well made video. And neatly sums up the problems of criminalising recreational drugs. At least Georgia has seen the common sense of legalising Cannabis, about time all other countries followed suit.
@@ericjiang7986according to them … ever heard of the karoshi work culture or the fact that these people are just more heavily oppressed hence the figures being lower. People will always do drugs, wherever and forever bc it’s human nature to take risks, I know for a fact you can get most types of drugs in all of those countries it just costs more and is sketchier.
I don’t how people do drugs in Georgia. It seems like you have to jump through so many hoops just to cop something and the risk doesn’t seem worth it either.
It doesn’t matter what the penalty is, prohibition doesn’t really work. It is human nature to seek new, pleasurable, or spiritual experiences - we have been doing so since at least 8,000 B.C. I don’t know enough about Georgia to speak on it but I’m sure like pretty much any country on earth, people want to be free to choose what they put in their bodies. And if they could have chosen safer substances they would have.
Eh. Georgian here. People have been using the website and the method mentioned in the video for years now. There are only a handful BTC machines in the city; if the police were out to get the users, all they'd have to do is camp out near those machines...but they don't. Barely anyone ever gets caught picking up using the said website.
I honestly feel that quote about "experiencing the feeling of dieing while alive" A-PvP had me seeing demons and thinking my body was full of bugs telling me christ was real. Synthetics are so dangerous and yet so beautifully terrifying.
I felt there was a distinct darkness to the effects cathinones give. One of the worse periods of my drug use was the night my friends got hold of MDVP. I took the smallest amount out of the entire group and got to watch first hand as paranoia and psychosis gripped the entire room, extremely tense and evil atmosphere. One of my friends continued to use and is now permanently fried, full of anxiety and physically shakes and stutters. No longer leaves his room over 10 years later.
Cannabis legalization is a new thing for this country. Before that, growing bushes in secret that might get you in prison is not very intelligent. Making synthetic cannabinoids needs way less space to produce and store, are stronger is more better suited for the country past situation.
Just like with the synthetic 'Flakka', there were probably heavy laws against actual cannabis, forcing people to seek out unsafe cannabinoid replacements. Those synthetic replacements may have briefly been 'legal', or at least outside of the then-current drug policy, then were also criminalized. Similar pattern happens in the USA of synthetic drug replacements hitting the market faster than the drug policy can keep up with.
Great seeing my man at 0:08 representing Psychonaut 4! Kinda surprised that they didn't show up more though. One of their guitarists is in jail because of Georgia's drug laws
only USA makes money from prison, and only the company who owns it, not the govwrnment, most places it costs a lot of money to keep someone locked up. those US companies donate to politicians though.
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I am literally made of matter you actual smooth brain
@@Didnt_ask69 your application for the Troll position has been denied due to terrible insults.
How does this "really matter" to you? Wtf is your life like?? How about you learn a skill or invest in your future.. waste of space...
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This vice never went away, this vice is getting old real fast
Yes, this is the real vice. Discussing the dangers of hard drugs, not the dangers of angry fortnite kids.
@@janaeambrose5728 well it somewhat did when it kinda started copying the bullcrap you'd normally only see on CNN.
Yeah because this was filmed years ago
Americans are now realising there's a country called Georgia.
I always knew that. ^_^ Been a major geography geek since I was a little one. 😁
Who didn’t know that
Feliciatanktop = drummerCayden
@@TheMouseAvenger i sadly didnt know
If you have to put money in the elevator for it to function, you are in a 3rd World area
This is Vice.
damn i thought this was buzzfeed
ezra james I thought this was Vogue
Are you sure it's not the Bingo Hour?
Vice, The dumbest RUclips channel
Shashank Rao Jake Paul: hold my vodka
My high ass was wondering why they were speaking a different language in Atlanta
I'm seeing way more similarities than differences btwn the two. Good luck teaching harm reduction n saftey
@Victor I think most of us are aware that Georgia is a country. Legitimately... most watching this kind of stuff would know, having at least some interest in global affairs. It's just very confusing when it's not specified, as Georgia is also one of the more well-known states in our own country. Not to mention it has a reputation for drugs and partying. Actually very similar in that regard. So it wouldn't be surprising if this same documentary was about Georgia, USA.
@Victor hahaha
@@differentbutsimilar7893 yes, just as the state of Georgia is well known for its "techno, fascism and flakka"
@Victor agree, it's what i thought too.
In Portugal, where I’m from we had a drug crisis in the 80s and 90s and after the government tried many different approaches, it decided to decriminalise drugs and shift the perspective to addiction being a mental health problem rather than a criminal issue and drug addicts are patients rather than societal outcasts and since then drug mortality has decreased dramatically. I know each country is different and what may work for some may not work for others but if anything this documentary shows that strict anti drug laws are not the solution here..
I always thought the users aren't the ones to be locked up. It should be the dealers. However, the info for dealers comes from plea bargains with the users.
i live in Portugal too for the past 12 years and I really admired this approach. but we have to accept the fact that synthetic drugs is so much more dangerous now and it’s spreading with a crazy speed. i dont propose to arrest the users now, but i think the police shall be controlling now somehow the amount of substances they find on someone and not as before. metadon therapy is great, but with the designer drugs i wish it would be more invested into rehabs.
@@AG-kz4lw I don’t think that’s a good idea: penalizing people for possession and checking them into rehabs just because. We have a different culture when it comes to drugs, (for light drugs) they probably will toss what they found on you away and check you CC to find your background. When it comes to hard drugs, they will help your addiction, for example, by providing clean needles to people on the stress. Users also have access to Methadone and other support. Users will only get clean if they want to and the best way to that is by offering help, not penalized them for their struggle. I saw a documentary about this a few years ago, where Canada was thinking of implementing what we do!
These Atlanta accents getting less understandable by the years bruh
i hope thats a joke
its from there nose caving in from drug ude
use
@@lillianward3406 dude....he is talking about the language they r speaking ...he is talking about Georgia....n the United States .
georgia is a country in europe i do hope yall know that.....by romania etc lol
Alpha PVP sounds like an old minecraft server
Ahhahah you're right
There's rarely any a-pvp around..
@@funkhelmfriedel9239 at least weve got 3-MMC and a few other caths going around :)
lol
@@mysteryY2K 3MMC isn't even comparable to a-pvp more like a-php and nep/hexen
From bitcoin machine to taking an elevator with a coin...Georgia got it all... 100 years of progress in 5 min.
Lol paying for elevator is sick, haven't seen it before
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Николай they pay for the elevator because it is not government owned. Also it is not owned by a company. So for maintenance and keeping the elevator going the technician must be paid and therefore the money which is collected in the elevator the technician can do his work.
@@FeelLuckyToday Thats interesting. Are elevators commonly dangerous or of poor working condition in Georgia ? Im going to look up old euro elevator history now and the safety mechanisms behind them.
LOL
So it’s like if your playing Pokémon go but for drugs
@terry riley people do drops for all illegal drugs so just choose your poison, but keep in mind it's more exciting if you're really tweaking
More like geocathing
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Hope I never get no Flocka
Drug regulation must occur within the health system rather than the criminal system. Anyone who actually cared about the impact of drugs on society would understand that.
Reading this 3 years later, 100% agree
I’m from Georgia, And whatever the Vice is showing right now is all real. Thank you Vice for making people hear about us even more. We’re a small country and this means a lot to some of us. Much love from Georgians🇬🇪❤️.
genacvale gulshi
Georgians and Baltic states are only ones from ussr who got rid of soviet mentality. Cheers from Mongolia!
Love from Armenia 🇦🇲♥️
Be safe love from New Zealand
Hell yea
There's so many sides to drug addiction. It's not as easy to fight as some make it out to be. It's not just don't do drugs, it's how to calm down the cravings. If you want to know what's it's like, do the following: Go on a 24 hour fast. Mark down everytime you think about food and when you have cravings. Now, imagine that everyday for years. Cravings will drive you crazy if you have no support. I'm thankful that I'm celebrating 7 years of being clean. But, I STILL have cravings! I know now how to wok through them, but it's still hard sometimes.
There is more drug abuse in places with allot of poverty or lack of social rights etc. These things are connected aside from people with a tendency for addiction. MMO, mobile, casinos, other forms of gambling etc all use similar human addiction pattern, but they are often more successful in places were people crave escapism for different reasons.
Shawn Izekiel what are you on my guy
Yes I know from experience the graving is always there... I have a supportive family 💖
Also if someone trying to get help with craving more then likely you need detox and you have to really be done like done. And as you find ur self not having withdrawals that doesnt feel like death your thought process wont be about getting the drug then you move on to the next step which will be how do you personally cope with cravings. But you need to understand that its not easy or everyone would be clean aka no addicts but i hate that word anyway. The thing that gets me is even the Docs know how hard it is to stop bcuz they litterly give you legal form of the synthetic drug. . I think government keeps drugs illegal cuz they make hell of money from the streets. Its the circle of drug life .
Congrats that’s amazing. fellow former junkie here confirming cravings will take you down every time if you don’t do the work on yourself.
Tbilisi is actually an amazing city with a very rich culture and history.
Now, these are the jokes.
@@TheHeroMar what do you mean
Man these people have the thickest southern accent I’ve ever heard
from snorting grits
😸😸😁😁😸😜
Please tell me this is a joke
Their accent is so thick it almost sounds like another language
Puddin dude, come on
Who else just finds these videos too interesting not to watch them?
Yep, a country which almost you never hear a thing about and with absolutely antagonist parties with ideas that concern the modern world, I'm in !
My dude is in hoodie and all but using his credit card to make the lines. Thats some high level anonimyty
Love the whistle of a crackpipe in the morning really gets me going
Listen I'm trying to watch a porno and keep getting notif's , let's get to the 👉👌
Shawn Izekiel hope she sees this bro
It's a TV calm down boys
Idk if ur being sarcastic
Paul McKnight what u in to
"Snorting lines is the fight against the system here."
😁
*Gets beaten up by cops like a true Pothead
Yeah it's anarchy time
Says every addict who ever lived!!!!!!
A very one sided fight. Nobody even knows they're doing it (sorry, _fighting')_ Considering they're going out of their way not to get caught.
@@ivareskesner2019 I know right, plus their just harming themselves.
Im fighting for 20 years now!😄
36 seconds in: "Ooohh that Georgia."
вдруг я говорю по русски
Facts
"snorting lines is the fight against the system" has to be one of the stupidest things i've ever heard.
Stupid people living in their own illusion
Hey man wanna get high and stick it to the man
no, no.... lets here him out... there could be something to this
I came here looking for this comment
Of course someone who doesn't partake won't get it
Make a documentary about Russia's darkweb drug market called hydra
Hail Hydra.
Lenta.ru already make it, it's called "Rossiya pod narkotikami"
@@ХубаБуба-з9х I know about it, but it's in Russian. Non Russian speakers would probably be really interested to hear about it. Plus I wanna see vices interpretation of it
why? it's pretty similar to any other market that operates anywhere. the web design just looks weird like an HTML geocities site from 2004 lol
@@hairystyles4212 the users and drug culture would be interesting, not the websites.
I completely agree with the concept "is your going to do drugs anyway, here is the safe and correct way to do so" that is how you reduce drug overdose or over consumption, people just take drugs without knowing anything about the drug
Yeah, but There's a stigma with it and misinformation about drugs makes people think you just take away the drug and everything will be fine.
Like gun control all over the world, look at London. They're taking the knifes away because people are getting stabbed.
Chicago, has some of the most strict gun laws and they have the most murder per capita almost every year.
People will do what they want no matter what the laws are, let's focus on education and harm reduction instead of trying to eradicate things we don't understand or like.
Completely agree,
@@skm9420 actually murder per capita chicago isn’t even in the top 10 www.roadsnacks.net/murder-capitals-of-america/
I do not agree, if you use you will have consequences. There is no safe use of drugs and those who use harm others. Sober since 7-31-2017
Alcohol is a drug , regulated and unregulated markets are so different . I'm sure we all prefer alcohol to be regulated , experiments in the prohibition have been disastrous for all parties
The one guy says he’s teaching people how to do drugs correctly, as he hot glues some straws and plastic bottles into bong...
You have to do what he says not what he does.
You can't "do" a drug "correctly" which makes you run naked through traffic or hump trees.
@@googleuser9383 The "correct way of using a drug" he refers to is how to take it without adding further damage by taking it incorrectly.
That's why he says something like "If you already have decided to use it, I will help you with information on how to cause the least damage possible."
To give you an example, I think it will give you a maximum dose that you can take at once without becoming erratic and unable to control your actions.
Or he might tell you to never have more than X amount on yourself to prevent a multi day bender that is guaranteed to increase the risks to your health and the likelihood of becoming temporarily insane without being actually enjoyable.
@@googleuser9383 drugs don't make people do things
@Wutzmyname Mike what does PCP make people do? What does salvia make people do? I googled it and found no examples of a drug that makes people do a certain thing
Edit: I just want to see what you actually think
11:21 “here is where we keep all the evidence.”
Next shot: empty shelves with four bags
They sound a lil big for their britches 😂
They're putting it back on the streets
@@thefaceofentertainment6643 yup
And that dudes job title is Quality Control Manager. LOL
E M funny enough weed is legal in Georgia
“Snorting lines is the fight against the government” 😂😂😂😂😂
I was like bro what 🤨💀
Basic freedom of doing what you want with your body. Not hard to understand.
That line killed me 😂😂
@@kingkane6394 pun intended?
it is, the government has no right to tell you what to do with your body
'' Techno, Facism and Flakka ''
*Guy Ritchie*: Found the title for my next movie..
That Orthodox Priest looks just like SouthPark’s depiction of elderly Pope
You are offending many georgians right now with that line
"Napast"
@@miriankukava6245 thats kreizy but who asked
@@wipeEU your mother yesterday
LOL "Drugs will become more common mmmkay"
"Music is the friend who is always with you, in good times and in bad". So much truth.
I'm living in Republic of Moldova and all I want to tell you is synthetic drugs like alpha pvp and mephedrone in post-Soviet Union countries is the BIGGEST problem. Not only on Georgia. This is sad af.
Well shouldn't be so stupid to take them should they
@@phillybuswanker242 many more die in the US from drug overdose (both per capita and absolute total).
@@pedclarkemobile and there even more stupid
@@phillybuswanker242 defo bro therr the ones who is stupids
In USA its METHAMPHETAMINE
Lmao everyone talking about dark web but meanwhile the only time someone bought some on the vid he used safari
Yea i think they meant the deep web
If you're ordering drugs on safari it's definitely the dark web. Maybe you should look up the difference between dark web and deep web.
@@sonatuh no, they definitely meant dark web.
@@user-ft5ux3fb3b I thought the dark web was the side of the internet that was closed behind private browsers
@@sonatuh guys iam from georgia we buy it from safari its just a link
Visited some friends in Tbilisi last year and this is 100% accurate.
These guys are popping, smoking and drinking 7 days a week, what a f*cking holiday.
That ilia of Georgia guy looks like that possessed king in lord of the rings.
Facts!!!!!
Who?
You have no Power here xD
He is, actually. A demon masquerading as a priest. He's a remnant of soviet KGB that has been put in power by more powerful people and stayed there since... He brings nothing but suffering and confusion to our country. He frequently speaks about "healing" properties of this and that, but at the same time goes to Germany many times a year for who knows what, probably stem cell treatment from dead babies, I assume
Anyway, he's evil in it's purest form
@@Angel_Gomez Theoden. King of rohan, possessed in second film.
Edit: If Theoden wasn't the subject of your 'who?' then the Georgian dude is at 1:50
The dude at 0:14 looks like Elon musk but if he'd been through seven civil wars
He's in jail now btw.
@@PapunaLomouri Good, pos
elon musk after the 2029 cyborg wars
@@PapunaLomouri oh man I wonder how he's getting along with all those inmates that got in for drug related crimes
@@wernerbeinhart2320 not really so good, he was arrested for a made up reasons. the gov't basically fabricated his case. even the most liberal party was thinking of supporting him.
"Techno, Fascism, and Flakka" three words I never thought would be in the same sentence.
The author seems not to understand the middle term.
Techno and flakka seems pretty logical to me
In germany it's "Tekk, Meth and Nazis" lol
@@Grongooo Only in Saxony.
Ikr lol. Made me click outta curiosity.
The Vice we love
that 'activist' is definitely a flakka power bottom
He was another cringe conservative showing us a real life version of “me thinks doth protest too much”
takes one to know one gay boy
Stephen H was that supposed to be an insult
@@stephenh4747 me and my hungry hole can tell he likes a good slamming. Stop projecting and start accepting babez 😘
@@SebastianDingleswitch the fish smell is probably related to impurities. maybe pyrrolidine, one of the precursors.
Bruh, they are literally living in a comicbook cyberpunk world
🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahahah
Maybe they are, but what's wrong about that?
@@TJGermany everything lmao. no one wants to live in a dystopia.
@@conjointoates I didn't see it as a dystopia but I agree now. Don't know why I wrote that comment ^^
in Alpha-PVP
drugs is not a criminal problem it is a health problem
Often exacerbated by mental health problems as well
yups.
The ones selling drugs are the criminal problem
@@NapoleonBonaparde nope, people would get the drugs by his own if drug dealers didn't exist, just like they used to do it before "civilization".
@@erikmedina289 What? how exactly would a common person get synthetic drugs if production and distribution thereof were eliminated?
Hands down best high society. All the other ones were a joke
i love how overdressed the reporter is
Seems pretty casual to me
Yeah only the elite rock collared shirts....
On point
This guy wearing those with camp pants
იქნება ოდესმე მიხვდეთ რასაც გიშვებიან და ჩვეულებრივ სტატისტიკად წახვალთ იმ ქვეყნად თქვენი "რებელობა" და "ხელოვანობა" არ გაიშვა არსად ! მაგარი ანარქისტი ბიჭები ხართ , რომ გკითხოთ კაცმა და ჩვეულებრივად კარტელებს კვებავთ , თქვენს ჯანმრთელობაზე და სიცოცხლეზე ამდიდრებთ , ვიღაც მელეხებს, როგორ ვერ ხვდებით ამას?! ვის უჯანყდებით ჩეულებრივ თქვენნაირ ხალხს ?! ქართველები ხართ და გული მწყდება თორემ 100 წელი მკიდია რას უზამთ თქვენს დებილ თავებს !
Beautiful Alphabet.
Georgian is such a cool language.
thank you brandon !
You think? No offense, but it sounded more slurred than russian.
@@googleuser9383 sounded like slurred drunken turkish to me haha. I love their alphabet tho, Its like art
has a lot of arabic like kh sounds
Kenji Wright one would expect that with a country that suffered through russian imperialism
Tbilisi is the last capital in Europe to deal with techno and drugs. Welcome to the club if i May say.
I live in Tbilisi, a vibrant safe city who doesnt always take the best of the western values which are very liberal and cynical but the most of the youth dont idealize the west, they know ... they dont wanna be decadent like us but they dont want to be brain washed by the orthodox conservative neither.
Techno had something to say in the west in the nineties ..it was our soundtrack, the begenning of " whats the meaning of all that ? Of having it all ? Why are we feeling bad in this neo liberal world ? Now we know....
Berlin , since 10 years became a disney land for young easy jet setter who just want to get high and piss everywhere with no respect. Paris is a musem, London is super expensive, Barcelona crowded, New York elitist and boring and so on ... It became mass touristics consumerists hedonistic boring clusters.
People who were in Berlin left cause its getting expensive and nobody really have fun anymore, they just want to be "cool"
People in Tbilisi struggle much more than we do in the west economically and this hard tech goes with their hard life. It's their soundtrack now. Techno is not expensive to produce, its their stuff, their emergency. Their moment.
When you drive in Tbilisi listening techno, it makes sense. It doesnt in NY or Paris or London or Berlin anymore . Its just museums. Techno is tribal, direct, rough, true, honest, straight to the point, just like Tbilisi.
This journalist make a good job, i like him, even if he obviously look like a little prince from the west, far away from the craziness of some people in Tbilisi. He has been " Gentrified" ;)) .
Tbilisi will change too but i hope they wont end up depressed like us and individualist. I just hope they gonna keep the dignity they still have. Dzalian miqvars Sakartvelo, Dzalian momtsons ak vstkhovreba. Madloba kartvelebs.
This country owns my heart. Im a french Georgia lover.
As someone that lives in Atlanta, this is exactly how we speak
lmao
😂
I’m 9yrs sober and sane from heroin and Crack… I felt ill watching dude smoke. I’m sharing that bc.. I don’t know 🤷🏻♀️ I’m glad Vice is talking about this tho
People been talking about drugs forever. You never heard about I guess until now? I guess that's why you decided to be like the masses.
Ummm Eric what are you talking about?! I did drugs! I said it gave me a weird response watching dude smoke....
Jamie d I used to think about it a lot for the first few years, now it makes my stomach hurt, but it definitely gives me a emotional and physical response!
Stay save sweetheart!
@@coliedeekenzo The point is Vice is talking about it. The same way another show was talking about it when you decided to ruin everyone's life around you. Basically what I said the first time.
7:13 paata is the only person in this video who even knows what he's talking about when it comes to the history and the current scene. He's been hip to the scene before they were even born. True OG.
I raved with pata!! He is an amazing person. Hope he takes care.
Wow! That was some Ballsy investigative journalism! I’m so impressed with the transparency you were shown. These people are suspect (having known my own version of that kind of hell) of every person, friend, family, everyone...suspicious of motives, situations. Blacklisted and outlawed, everything is on the line. These laws in Georgia , and mandatory sentences, heavy probation for drug related charges, are only slightly more harsh than the USA. I’m an American. My heart goes out to these young people. It’s that lust for freedom, and self expression. Oppression’s balm is escapism in all its forms. Drugs being one.
I love VICE's drug documentaries. They protect their sources/dealers
Honestly they shouldn't
@@shapsugh1864 they definitely should.In everyone's interest.
Or it is fake
Dutch Van Der Linde so how do they do documentaries if they rat every time
@@Gucci23430 they don't have to film themselves talking with the authorities easy.
Drugs, Bitcoins and questionable elevators now that's Vice lol 😂
yeah good way to turn the cops on to the shizz
Besides all the key points mentioned in the video, one more thing must be highlighted as well. Hardcore drug use doesn't simply start because someone wants to have fun. It becomes an escape in the maze of the place which you are born in and love, but which harms you because it cannot provide you with the opportunity to meet your basic needs. Having lived in Georgia for many years and having seen so many bright minds and extremely resourceful people being led towards depression, anxiety and mental health issues because of the overall political and social situation in the country, makes you wonder about whole existence and philosophy behind it. They seek for an escape to go to Western countries, but at the same time they can't leave their families behind. Many young people are trapped in this loophole and they are not even allowed to use most common clubbing drugs like MDMA and Ketamin... As mentioned in the video, you never know what you are getting whenever you buy certain substances and you have a high probability of going to jail in your early 20s just because people who are in charge have no sense of false knowledge. Thus, such videos are extremely important to raise the awareness around the drug related knowledge and also, providing deeper understanding of the root causes of drug abuse and addiction, will become helpful to come up with the effective solutions while fighting against it. I am very proud of the people in this video despite the fact that I don't know any of them. It takes balls to speak up and talk about such topics, while people who should be first to worry about overcoming these challenges are quite and even more, repressing the victims of the system they have created. I am pretty sure that Georgia and Georgian youth will overcome this phase and keep creating the precedent of letting ART, music and violence free activities, causing the change.
The western world ain't much better though
@@lillexus5589 I know and it's getting worse.
Not necessarily. I've seen people do hard drugs simply because they couldn't find what they really want. Imagine ending up a full blown meth head because you wanted to take a trip on shrooms which btw has numerous mental benefits.
@Will Fryer 2 Are you serious? A quick Google search could tell you otherwise. Epilepsy, depression, nueropathy etc. All treatable with shrooms.
@Will Fryer 2 Oh and since OP mentioned Ket that too has been used to treat addiction and medically at that. Aside from the enlightenment aspect of of tripping which isn't directly linked to beating addiction its a verifiable fact certain substances like shrooms have to ability to to reset the brain. If you had taken the time to understand the brains reward mechanisms you would know dopeamine detox is absolutly a real thing. 🙂👍
It’s sad to see a lot of post Soviet states are in a mess right now
Yeah capitalism is awful, all of these places were doing much better than communism. Most people who lived through communism actually have a favorable opinion of it.
angryhobo212 you’d be surprised
@@angryhobo212 They absolutely weren't doing better w/ communism 😂
Yah commie bastards
angryhobo212 nope
12 grams of molly for “personal use” 😂😂😂
Haha I know right. Even for a three day festival
Yeah u would be surprised how much an addict will do a day, “tolerance”
"snorting lines is a fight against government" lol
As is pissing in a stairway and not wiping you ass - such a revolutionaries!
im georgian and this hurts real badly. it hits me straight in the heart. nice vid vice news,you really showing the good content.
i love skakartvelo
@@alvegutt42 me too man, thanks for supporting our country.
Is it a common problem among the youth or only relatively small ?
@@marvin2678 a common problem cause a lot of the youth are smoking and taking drugs
@@dimitrytkemaladze6185 oh that's sad, but I definitely want to visit your country sometime, I heard a lot of good stuff about it
i was caught with almost that amount of mdma in Portugal. and since i was a foreigner and convinced them it was just for me and my friends, i just got a fine of 400 euros, which i never paid
Idiot 😂
I bet you aren't planning on going back? I got parking tickets in nyc same.
We dance together We fight together 🇺🇦 🇬🇪
This reminds me of why I fell in love with Vice in the first place. Make more content like this please!
You're pretty
Got the site address from the glimpse of the phone screen and it works! Thank you Vice!
Hahahaha, its still up! Thank godm
When I was in Gerogia on a Metal Festival in 2016, the electricity was cut and the festival shut down by Orthodox Christian protesters. The festival then continued the next day in an old underground place in the center of Tbilisi instead. There I was hanging out with the vocalist from the band on the shirt the dude at 0:07 is wearing \m/
It was one of the best vacations ever
you can smoke it's legal
cultivation - don't
Yeah they did
Really???
Actually they did mention the decriminalization of weed if you watch the whole thing.
@Hugo TooHard Hahaha! Psychonaut 4
This is mad, whenever you prevent people from getting hold of pure mdma for clubbing purposes... people die. Time and again, why can't governments learn this
ppl die from mdma also there is no easy solution to the drug problem
@@shaulstrait4313 people rarely die from MDMA, most of the times when they say some1 did its not mdma. but PMA. MDMA is incredibly safe to use. just dont drink 4L water during your trip and if feel its going wrong think happy thoughts. seriously read up before you start spouting bullshit. MDMA is relatively safe. you could argue alcohol is more dangerous.
@@holyjari you might not die, the physical and especially mental effects of using MDMA/xtc are very serious though. Jouw profielnaam is niet heel hoopgevend in ieder geval.
@@lillexus5589 ja zeer gevaarlijk die drugs voor mentale bevordering zeker. Zoek eens ff de geschiedenis ervan op. Alles kan gevaarlijk zijn btw. En alsof je online naam veel zegt, lil lexus. Met je purp drank pic.
@@holyjari dan lijk je toch niet zo heel veel van deze drug af te weten, want vooral de mentale schade die men op kan lopen na al 1x MDMA/xtc gebruik is enorm. Puur het feit dat iemand er niet aan dood gaat door fysieke complicaties maakt een drug nog niet veilig. Check eens even de videos op het kanaal van CG kid, iemand die tot in details uitlegt waarom het nou zo een foute denkwijze is om er vanuit te gaan dat MDMA onschuldig en zonder risico's is.
I'll tell you one thing, Georgians sure are good-looking people. 💗
I absolutely loved partying in Tbilisi. The techno scene is the future
Yes cuz the robots are the future
You should visit Berlin next if you like techno
@@marvin2678 nien
Sending my techno brothers and sisters in Georgia love and hugs to your beautiful country. Hoping to one day go to a Bassiani or Khidi Rave
Absolutely loved that Paata dude..
As a now sober addict after 12 years of severe addiction to opioids and Benzos I must say that he is right.. The ONLY THING harsher drug laws has done is cost more ppl their lives and put more money in the pockets of dealers.. NO dealers want legalisation
Thats a lie lol areas with legalized cannabis have booming black market cannabis markets. Likewise of meth was legal, sudophed would be available in bulk again no questions asked immediately blowing past legal meth. The conversion rate of people from dealer>government is incredibly low (with people who try usually reverting back) because they can never compete with the price and unregulated purifies. It also lets people who were afraid before feel comfortable, and when people eventually want "the next level" they'll seek them out. Plus now they don't have to worry about getting arrested, can get ingredients way easier, and don't have constant stress and paranoia. Dealers LOVE legalization lol
@@dissraps Yeah true, in my country all the most wanted dealers are asking for it to be Legal on TV every week. XD They always ask for Legalization..
Whatever profits they make by price difference, they'll cover by being able to have their products to way more people, legally in stores, under brands etc.
There will be black markets either way, Australia/NZ legalized some drugs because of that mindset, and it only made it worse they had to revert back from it, but the damage was too much and they still haven't recovered from that 15 ears after.
@dissraps Legalizing drugs doesn’t mean legalizing drug trafficking. You’re right that the black market is always there, but it will put a dent in profits.
So many cool face masks, and even more creativity going into that homemade bong aspects. Haha
So we've decided to completely ignore the coin operated elevator? That's cool!
wait yall dont have coin operated elevators? bruh, its so weird seeing people from the west not knowing what a podyezd is
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 It's not something I've ever come across in Western Europe, that's all I can say so it was a bit of a surprise.
I know my grandmother had a coin operated stove in one of the places her and grandfather lived so it's not completely unheard of, I'd just never seen it in elevators before :)
Part of the elevator mafia in georgia
and in a supposedly abandoned building no less
jeg bor i tbilisi og alle blokkleiligheter har det, min har et sånt kort man fyller opp
I would like to congratulate drugs for winning the WAR ON DRUGS
🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Ty.. this was a great way to start my day
War on drugs was never meant to be won, just to gain money. The government always wins in the end, sadly.
@@BalboaBaggins the government ain't winning any money, politicians and BigP are
@ lambo lover, Got it in one... The Government's don't want to win the war on drugs to much money for them to loose in the "So Called Battle on drugs!!"...😂😂😂
when he said "they have to keep their online identities safe " i was waiting fir the Nord VPN add.
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lmfao enough RUclips for today
Buying drugs there is like s.t.a.l.k.e.r. in real life
I'm honestly not surprised. You can get just about anything online here.
“And here’s our completely empty evidence room. A lot of wealthy ppl have keys to this room..”
Everytime some place becomes oppressive underground Tekno has a role in resisting...
Just like Matrix lol
Cyberpunk 2020
This was a great video. Goes to show that the war on drugs only causes more death and pain. If the Georgian government would legalize drugs, and provide safe testing, they would eliminate Russian cartels, and unnecessary deaths, all while making money on taxes to return to the community.
legalize is a bit on the forward side, even. Simply decriminalizing it would help so much
I completely agree except for one point. The Russian cartels would obviously not be eliminated. But they would lose a great deal of money
Hubonkel Greg Yeah. Not much is gonna eliminate Russian cartels I think
Maxwell VL, I meant eliminate their strong hold on the synthetic drug trade in Georgia
Hubonkel Greg , I meant eliminate their stronghold on the synthetic drug trade in Georgia.
I don’t think anyone has ever called Tbilisi the nightlife capital of Europe...
Yeah that was pretty hyperbolic lol
with their one club.
I dont think you’re part of a good nightlife scene then
I don’t think I’d call ANYWHERE in Georgia the capitol of anything. “Anyone who is anyone parties in Tbilisi!” 😂 I’m aware it exists which is more than 99% of the population knows about Georgia.
@@adamgregory9198 capital*. learn grammar my guy
"We don't have other option". When not snorting a deadly drug is just not an option.
lol Snorting lines is activism- Current Year™
They want to use drugs, so they will use drugs. The government, its laws and the police are killing people to uphold an idealistic moral superiority that has no grounding in material reality.
@@youtuber7186 amen
@@youtuber7186 Without upholding such morals there would be a universal degradation - mental as well as physical. Laws should reflect the ideal, not the actual and corrupted. If you adjust laws to the worst facets of social reality, there are no aspiration and striving towards bettering yourself.
@@youtuber7186 Drug propagandists are killing people , the government is not forcing you to take drugs
“ this is what ya use for screws ? Screws in a wall “ it’s called a drill bro 🤷♂️🤦♂️😂
Doing Smack while Watching This Video Now😭It Hurts and May Everyone Come out sober 👍 & Live a Happy and Peaceful Life🙏🏼
Absolutely thought they were talking about the state
Same! I was like "Damn what language are they speaking in Georgia nowadays!" LoL
Yeah I was kinda confused at first 😅
This comment made me ctfu
You know what, I did too
wow.I wouldn"t be so proud of this.:)You must be USA citizen.
"if prison isn't working, it might be time to start considering other approaches"
EXACTLY!! all that money they spend on locking people up can be used for treatment and keeping people safer. banning stuff just makes more dangerous stuff come around that isn't banned yet
I think the government here understands that, as they made weed legal 2 years ago. But the problem is the heavy Christian influence that holds the government back. This country is in the middle of two different generations right now. One very liberal and young, and one very conservative and old. In order for the government to stay in power, they need both sides to support them so they are trying to appease both.
Nah, every locked up drug dealer is once source less for the kids.
Nah, every locked up drug dealer is once source less for the kids.
Konrad von Schnitzeldorf they still lock up trafficers, just not regular users
Thomas Turner
you can kill a million people, and a million more will take their place. you cannot get rid of users. once they're all gone, all the bottom rungs of society will be empty, and will need to be filled with other middle class people who are down on their luck because they've just lost all of their minimum wage workers. then in order to do the same grueling work that their past workers had to do, they would turn to drugs too, until you've cleansed the entire population.
i remember reading a story. a huge drug operation was running, and the police were never able to find them. their location was right next to the police office.
This girl in Florida tried to eat another person's face off on that flakka.
Think that’s just a normal Florida thing.
Don’t forget about that One Man that actually did attack a Man and his wife and and ate their face after using/ taking Flakka/ BATH SALT’s
Florida doesn't surprise me anymore
@@JustBlaze0923 Turned out to be false, the guy tested positive for methamphetamine only.
Hahahahah awesome!
We do needs to decriminalize and educate people on drugs internationally. The guru is right. If youre going to get high youre going to get high. Might as well make it so people arent out here dying over getting high
@CoolChannel Name what if they also contribute to society? i'm a software engineer doin drugs on the weekends just sayin..
I think only dealers should go to jail, while all the users & possessors go to rehab & therapy to get better. :-) Also, education about drugs & their dangers is very important, too. (Anyone remember D.A.R.E. & Red Ribbon Week?)
@CoolChannel Name this is the most startling comment I have read on youtube.... so what is your suggestion? What should we do to the 'unproductive' members of the society?
@CoolChannel Name they are leftists, pleasure seeking is all they live for. You are wasting your time trying to explain it. They want non-stop party at other people's expense. They are hedonists, they don't care.
@CoolChannel Name I do not want to live anywhere near people doing drugs and i don't care if they die or go to jail it is their choice. Just make sure that the don't sell drugs in prisons and lock them for 1-2 years. Rehab can work but 90% of thoose going will do drugs again and it is expensive so i do not care. If it is illegal and doing it in secret maybe we can save some kids and i don't have to look them cause they are hidding away from me.
Very well made video. And neatly sums up the problems of criminalising recreational drugs. At least Georgia has seen the common sense of legalising Cannabis, about time all other countries followed suit.
Not true, Singapore Japan and many asian countries hard on drug. Their drug addiction rate is very low.
@@ericjiang7986according to them … ever heard of the karoshi work culture or the fact that these people are just more heavily oppressed hence the figures being lower. People will always do drugs, wherever and forever bc it’s human nature to take risks, I know for a fact you can get most types of drugs in all of those countries it just costs more and is sketchier.
@@ericjiang7986 Singapore is so well managed because it is a small nation with an equally small population. Here in Malaysia it is very different.
I need 100 episodes...!
The DJ said he had 12 grams of molly for “personal use” LOL
Aye but he was going away for 3 days ,could well do 4 g a day at a rave in a forest 😂😂
@falk guard ive probably took close to that amount of mdma in a weekend out when i was younger hahahaha
@@christopherjolly3556 Something to be ashamed of. But at least it's your brains that you are frying.
@@sharefactor my brains alright thanks very much .
This is dope, Vice. More pieces like this please.
I don’t how people do drugs in Georgia. It seems like you have to jump through so many hoops just to cop something and the risk doesn’t seem worth it either.
Desperation and misery can make one sacrifice everything for something so harmful.
It doesn’t matter what the penalty is, prohibition doesn’t really work. It is human nature to seek new, pleasurable, or spiritual experiences - we have been doing so since at least 8,000 B.C.
I don’t know enough about Georgia to speak on it but I’m sure like pretty much any country on earth, people want to be free to choose what they put in their bodies. And if they could have chosen safer substances they would have.
C M right!! I agree 100%
Eh. Georgian here. People have been using the website and the method mentioned in the video for years now. There are only a handful BTC machines in the city; if the police were out to get the users, all they'd have to do is camp out near those machines...but they don't. Barely anyone ever gets caught picking up using the said website.
@@sweettea3879 Speak for yourself
finally vice coming back to the stuff that actually matters
This is where Vice shines. They used to only produce content like this
the part where they're getting the drugs out of the abandoned apartment complex is survival scavenging gameplay at its finest
The righteous line... snorting drugs to fight the machine man....
I honestly feel that quote about "experiencing the feeling of dieing while alive" A-PvP had me seeing demons and thinking my body was full of bugs telling me christ was real. Synthetics are so dangerous and yet so beautifully terrifying.
I felt there was a distinct darkness to the effects cathinones give. One of the worse periods of my drug use was the night my friends got hold of MDVP. I took the smallest amount out of the entire group and got to watch first hand as paranoia and psychosis gripped the entire room, extremely tense and evil atmosphere. One of my friends continued to use and is now permanently fried, full of anxiety and physically shakes and stutters. No longer leaves his room over 10 years later.
@@555Sludge thats creepyyyyyyy
"Synthetic cannabinoids" just smoke real weed
Cannabis legalization is a new thing for this country. Before that, growing bushes in secret that might get you in prison is not very intelligent. Making synthetic cannabinoids needs way less space to produce and store, are stronger is more better suited for the country past situation.
Just like with the synthetic 'Flakka', there were probably heavy laws against actual cannabis, forcing people to seek out unsafe cannabinoid replacements. Those synthetic replacements may have briefly been 'legal', or at least outside of the then-current drug policy, then were also criminalized. Similar pattern happens in the USA of synthetic drug replacements hitting the market faster than the drug policy can keep up with.
“jUSt sMOkE rEaL wEeD”
-ghostdtx
How can Yu smoke real weed if Yu addicted to syn?
@@ibbyshaheeed7991 Flakka is a salt, not a synth cannabinoid. I think they called that one "bio" in the vid.
My man rocking the pearl necklace ;)
Hilaire
Bath salts and flakka are also popular in Scotland. Flakka is known as “super perv powder” here.
Great seeing my man at 0:08 representing Psychonaut 4! Kinda surprised that they didn't show up more though. One of their guitarists is in jail because of Georgia's drug laws
I've just noticed p4 shirt,thanks
It's true, prison doesn't help. But why would any government give up such a cash cow.
only USA makes money from prison, and only the company who owns it, not the govwrnment, most places it costs a lot of money to keep someone locked up.
those US companies donate to politicians though.
@@LittleRainGames I'm sure a lot of funding or tax money that goes into the foreign prisons gets syphoned off by the people in power.
Georgian prisons don't make money, they just eat the tax money
The US prison system is one of a kind.
@@skateboarding118 its criminal--basically modern day slavery. they found the one loop hole in the 13th amendment.
I can't imagine expecting a go to an amazing festival and instead going to jail for 9 years... that's so brutal
we don't have any other option other then this,
Tor: Am i a joke to you?
Exactly what I thought
And do what with it? Import drugs from international darknet markets and get a 20 year sentence for drug trafficking? Naaah.
Syth I assume you’ve never used tor?
@@KirbySweg Your assumption is wrong.
Syth then you would understand that it’s highly unlikely for you to get a 20 year drug sentence lmao