There's an issue when you need a law degree to interact with the law enforcement officer yet they can act like clueless children cause of qualified immunity.
@@MrEkzotic you need a law degree, while everything you see here is basically correct it may not be in all cases the best. plus you have to be careful to know exactly what when why how and in which order you do or say certain things
Here is what is recommended by the local police: When a cop knocks on your door, you should open it, say "I am guilty", turn around with your hands behind your back, crossed at the wrists and wait for the cuffs to be put on and locked twice. You may spit in the cops face if you like and that will result in a take down or a 9 mm bullet in the back, all of which is in the pursuit of justice in America. You should understand that Freedom is not free, except for cops. You are ONLY a citizen.
I have noticed that cops jump back in their cars and call their parents, to ask them what they are supposed to do next. I appreciate cops, and stupid people, it would be terribly boring, if we were all alike. We need something besides cops and laws, because it ain’t workin’. My lawyer is a drug addicted alcoholic, more friend than lawyer, but he’s honest with me, and has guided me for over 40 years, and I’ve never been to prison, so far. Cheers!
dont open the door period im am not required to help the police do there job i cant upstruct as warran and i wont but i dont have to move or speak ruther they have a warrant or not
I opened the door when two local police and one federal (FBI) agent was at my door. I was on the phone and the moment the woman told me "FBI" I was so dumb founded I closed the door, told my friend I have to go. Then opened the door and stepped outside my apartment to figure out what was going on. Long story short some lawyers at Equifax decided to "sick" the police including the FBI on me for demanding they stop mailing me. To be fair even though I disclaimed three time's "I am not making a threat, I am expressing my opinion, and in my opinion your behavior is why mass shootings happen." is a bit spicy I understand that and yet I'm not wrong. We had a polite 20-30 minute long conversation where I was very careful with what I said to her and her tag along boys. To be honest I thought she was with social services do to my mothers poor health and status as disabled. I could not comprehend why they thought I was a possible danger to others. I was so painfully clear at how disgusting Equifax was to assert the only way they had to respect my right to be left alone was to give them my Social Security number. The biggest problem isn't them demanding it, it was them fronting themselves as "lendnation blot com" I demanded to know how they'd even gotten my social security number and everyone one of the three plus "supervisors" hand waved the freaking question away. If they told me "We're an equifax subsidiary" I'd have told them "Ok I will contact Equifax directly and get them to put my on their do not contact list as I'm already on the federal do not mail registry and paid to be on it for fricks sake." I'm a lot, I have ADHD, anxiety, an IQ of 160 and am highly extroverted, but I'm no fool Equifax was trying to retaliate against me for calling them out on their illegal behavior. When the law enforcement people showed up I was confused because I never had any intention of causing fear. I simply explained my political stance that "The reason mass shootings happen is because of the uncaring, tone deaf nature of society especially some corporations." They're response was to send a fed to harass me. Fuck capital.
The only thing that ever matters is how much wealth you can expend blackmailing the Americun Bar Conspiracy to go attack someone else instead. Iowa 14-0904 (federal appeal decision) says cops only need the verbal claim of any other person, regardless of the legal status of that person.
Probably not since like many rules surrounding things like illegal entry and trespassing, it requires your entire body to cross the threshold at least in Texas. Now trespassing him off your land you might be able to argue if the cops stayed as criminal trespassing.
@@mattiOTX arkansas if someone breaks your window or tries kicking in door in attempt to enter you can shoot through window or door. now if its cops and they identifiy themselves and they have a warrant you cant. also if you open door to someone and then try to close it you cant unless they are trying to force way in or attack you. so cop sticking foot in door and not trying to enter would be a no but someone else sticking foot in door and trying to pry door out of your hands or squeeze in would be yes you can shoot. if cop tried forcing way in without warrant and you do shoot make sure you kill him with 1st shot so he cant testify to what the probable cause was. but most likely cops will not stick foot in door cause thats a grey area that could get case tossed or grounds for appeal or you grounds for lawsuit and if they do have just cause they gonna wait for back up most likely. but even if you are justified in shooting a would be intruder you will probably still be arrested and go to trial unless you are in polk county florida then Sheriff Grady Judd will pat you on the back for saving them paper work and having to feed the intruder. But like video said. just dont open door. talk through doorbell or intercom or ignore them.
I've mentioned this before. Look past the officers shoulder and yell, "Billy! Get away from that police car!" When the cop turns around to look, close the door.
But cop will then shoot you claiming "Billy" was a threat. No matter there was no Billy, useless bullies with a badge will shoot first then fabricate some lie (or fabricate a Billy) to get out of trouble
Had a cop do this when I was 17. Didn't know any better, so opened the door. They were looking for someone I'd never heard of, I told him he had the wrong house, had lived there 10 years, I know who lives there. He wanted to come in and search. I asked for the warrant, he started threatening me. I started to close the door and told him he can leave now and go get that warrant. He stuck his foot in the door, I said you aren't welcome here, you're trespassing, and then I walked away to the kitchen and started making me a sandwich. When I finished making it, I started munching on it as I walked to the living room. He was standing in the doorway still yapping. I sat on the couch, turned on the TV and kept eating my sandwich ignoring him. I don't know when he left.
You have left out a MASSIVE amount of vital info here dude! -What kind of sandwich was it? -Anything on the side? If we've got them, I'll add some chips on the side (or if it's bologna, tater chips go on the sandwich itself). If I'm feeling fancy, pickle spear on the side. -any liquid refreshments?
It's really messed up how placing a foot inside the door isn't automatically trespassing. If anybody else did that, you'd be justified in doing what you could to close the door after telling them that they can't come in.
@@micah7786 Not according to law unless a warning was given. Either verbal or signage. Your front yard is curtilage it is not unreasonable if someone knocks on your door but entering your backyard uninvited is unusual. Cops can knock tell them to leave. Another barrier for unwanted visitors is to build a fence, if someone jumps that fence without cause then that is trespassing, and most judges will agree.
@@oihilguest5902 I was arrested on my front porch once for obstruction of gov operations for asking a police officer if I was being detained or if I was free to leave. When the officer said I wasn't being detained, I turned to go inside and out came the cuffs. That caused me, amongst other things, to buy a legal course of how to move a court and study the court procedures in my state. I no longer face these issues, I've learned how to protect myself. The last time I was harrassed by an officer, I simply defeated him with law. I was asked if I was a lawyer, I said I am not a practicing bar certified attorney. My advice, learn the criminal code in your state as well as the court practices and procedures. Not only will you be a more rounded citizen, you will know how to defend yourself in the legal sphere. Best of luck to you.
@@FullDottle this is great advice and I have no idea why I haven't done this already. I'm not the biggest fan of police, if I am ever unlucky enough to have to deal with them directly, I will never forgive myself if I don't know whether what they're doing is legally defensible.
When I was 5 years old. A cop came to the door to ask for my 2 timing old man. Mother said " not here" the foot came into the door. And repeated the question. Mother firmly placed her foot on his and asked for papers." I don't need" papers all the time looking around her takeing in the house. Mother steped thrugh the door way to the house proper and closed and locked the main door. The cop followed the 3 steps and busted down the second door. He was met with a gallon of scalding water. Mother pleaded selfe defense, no Warrent, and property damage. And won the case hands down. The judge fined the cop, and benched him for 30 days pending the 1950s version of anger manage ment. Thanks
How long ago was this tho? I give her props and glad she won. I bet there are ppl out there sitting in prison for very similar situations but didnt have money for a lawyer and or had a bad judge.
Too many innocent people have been railroaded into jail, list their jobs, their homes, their belongings. I don’t believe we practice innocent until proven guilty.
FBI is under the gun so they fabricate a case because the guy in the bodycam video is civil and looks like good slave material for prisons. Terrorists like John Walsh meanwhile allude to how parents will be punished for not handing over their son. The Swamp People make Pinkertons disappear however. Find your way there bruh.
Absolutely. If you get arrested your screwed, regardless of innocence. You have to pay bond, hire a defence, and show up to court, otherwise falsely admit guilt just to get out of jail. You would likely loose your job, and credentials. Is that how innocent people are supposed to be treated.
NEVER OPEN THE DOOR WITHOUT A WARRANT. Never answer questions. Immediately ask them to leave. They will lie to not only you, but the courts when it is just you and them. Do not interact with police without a lawyer.
What I found scary was a situation in Spokane where the police were acting on a warrant, but they got the wrong address. They broke down the door, caused significant property damage while searching the place (slamming furniture into walls hard enough to put holes in walls and damage the furniture, for example), and struck & verbally abused unresisting residents. Then they found out that they raided the wrong house, literally a warrantless home invasion since the warrant in their possession was for a different address, they refused to compensate for any of the damages...heck, it took public shaming via the news to even get an apology out of them. Not sure if there ever was any justice for the homeowner. Its just a scary thought that you can do absolutely nothing wrong and still get screwed over hard by the police...and if you can't afford a good lawyer, you don't even have any recourse other than call up the news stations and hope public outrage forces them to do the right thing.
That is probably actionable. They will assert sovereign immunity but a JURY will likely weigh gross negligence in the balance. When they took control of the property and severely damaged it, they may have violated the "taken" clause of the 5th Amend.
@@wholeNwon Maybe, maybe not. It's not the same set of circumstances, but look up "Leo Lech" and what happened to him in Colorado. The short version is that courts up to the federal appeals court sided with the police and said they had no obligation to compensate the homeowner for the destruction of his home, and the Supreme Court denied cert.
When I worked as an apprentice salesman, I was told NEVER to stick my foot in someone's door to keep it open because I could not only be shot by the homeowner, but charged with a home invasion as well. Qualified Immunity enables criminal cops.
Well, Qualified Immunity is one of several mechanisms that the oligarchs use to keep their terrorist goons out of the traps they set for us. #CopsAreTerrorists
Had a cop do this to me. He didnt like that I closed the door. He then arrested me in my own car the next week. He arrested me for Unauthorized use of motor vehicle without owner's consent. It was my car. And he just changed the VIN. I made a complaint and he just retired. It was his 15th complaint.
It's almost like allowing a vampire into your home. I did once and when my Dad simply asked what they wanted the slammed him down and arrested him for obstruction of justice. The charge was wiped because my Dad did nothing wrong but he had to pay a $2.5k bond, $5k to a lawyer & $2k in community service fees. & My Dad was a state trooper for 30 years himself. Some of these young guys are way too excited to hurt people.
Doesn't sound like the charges were wiped if he paid community services fees. He pled guilty, got probation and community service, and got the charge vacated off his record later for good behavior.
The logic of that judge for admonishing Mr. Barnes behavior as “unacceptable” and “inappropriate” after ruling that it was completely legal, as well as determining what the officer did was illegal, is astonishingly dishonest. Did the cop get that same admonishment for breaking multiple laws? I bet he didn’t. Instead, the judge blames the victim of police brutality for defending himself. What a piece of work.
In some old homes in Europe there is a cage just inside the front door so you can let someone in to your home but once they are in they just see locked bars. They can leave but not enter any further until you unlock the gate
Yes we do. We need them. Unfortunately, the constitution isn't taught in school anymore. People need to be informed and taught that they're rights do not come from the Gov't and the government isn't our ruler.
Considering I've gotten advice about being in Mexico and dealing with police corruption there, which basically said...once you cross the border...buy a sawed off shotgun...if cops pull you over in rural area they will demand a bribe or arrest you and send you to Mexican prison( you think our prisons are bad! 😱)...often the bribe is more than you have, so it was better to shoot them and get back across the border as quick as possible. This was advice given by a Mecican citizen...never went to Mexico. We may not be perfect here, but by and large we dont have to face that kind of corruption. The worst thing this country has done was stop teaching people their rights in school.any people get themselves in so much trouble because they cant recognize when they need to shut up. The cops know this and exploit it...the best way to fight back is to spread the knowledge....there is a reason the pen is mightier than the sword. Knowledge is power, the ability to use your knowledge to protect yourself the less likely you are to be harmed. This goes for anything. People dont understand the basics of our legal system and therefore people in power can exploit it to their benefit.
@@debd7631 We are getting that bad. You can find countkess cases of police filing charges against people purely out of spite with no legal basis. There's a recent one where they showed up to the wrong guys house on a domestic dispute call. After they forced entry and after they discovered they had the wrong house, they refused to leave. They even called reinforcements. Then they charged the man with obstruction. He had to pay those legal fees, win or lose. He could have lost his job. All because the officers knew they were wrong and wanted to punish him anyway. Oh and if you're black then you can literally be murdered by police for selling cigarettes and they will likely face no penalty. You say "we may not have the best" trying to downplay the obvious problem that is the American police gang. Actually, in LA nearly 50% of the police force is literally part of a white nationalist gang. Stop simpin' for deputized gang members. It's shameful.
The only thing that is terrifying is your lack of common sense. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's wise to do it or that there won't be consequences. It's perfectly legal to tell your employer to f*ck off. But that doesn't prevent him from firing you for it. You have the first amendment right to tell a biker gang member that he's a pansy. But I would not recommend doing that either. Nor should you walk down a dark alley in a bad neighbor even though you wouldn't be breaking a single law by doing so.
Nothing about that is scary. So called "Mr Barns" was running from police and then closed his door. Nobody should ever do that as it only makes you look more suspicious. He shouldnt have done that in the first place.
it's called contempt of cop: contempt of cop (bogus, catch-all charges) happens every single day. a corrupt cop's ego is challenged, and you end up shackled and jailed for generic charges like resisting/obstructing/disorderly conduct. all the cop has to do is shout STOP RESISTING while roughing you up, and that's enough for them to jail you.
@@stephenmartinez1 - and hundreds of badges get turned into belt buckles every year because of this. Cops are not omnipotent and must have reasonable cause to do what they do. Sooner or later the officer is going to find themselves in front of a judge trying to explain why he/she did what they did and 9 time out of 10 the officer loses their badge.
@@stephenmartinez1 yeah ??? And when a police officer puts his hands on you, and no crime has been committed. Sue him on a personal level, For Assault and battery. Police Qualified Immunity has been abolished. Sue that foo. Police officers are not your friends. Never talk to police officers under no conditions, unless your attorney is present.
@@TheGuruStud - Unless your talking small town good old boy sheriff, your wrong. You see judges love to smack down bad cops as much as they love to smack down criminals. The biggest problem with getting these cops booted is 99% of the time you either don't fight the case or you did something stupid during the arrest that throws your bad cop complaint out the window. Seriously, that is what this guys whole channel is about. Don't act the fool, let the cop make his mistakes and get a good lawyer, than the system will work for you and not against you.
never open the door, when the cop put his foot in the door, that is an entry, if they don't have a warrant it should be legal to use any means necessary to stop the illegal entry.
@@nic.h Those are few and far between! And the recent SCOTUS decision limited it even further! About the only way they can enter w/o a warrant is in hot pursuit! And even then they must have physically seen the person go into the home! Times they are a changing....thank God!
Even IF the badge wearing clowns put their hand on the door knob and rattle it, to learn if its unlocked should be considered an attempted unlawful entry. the same should be true IF they peer into your home through a window.
@@oldschooldiy3240 do you have a reference to the recent case decisions there, I'd like to have a look? Basically exigent circumstances mainly cover, pursuing someone actively, belief vital evidence is about to be lost, or belief someone is in imminent danger of serious harm or death. Those are the main ones I believe anyway.
This happened to me. My sister made a false police report that I was beating up our mother so that I could get arrested and she could get all of the inheritance. Cop banged on the door and I made the mistake of opening it. I told him, I didn’t call you (which I hadn’t). He shoved his foot in the door and we had a minor verbal tussle. Luckily my mother came out of the bedroom and told the cop I was her caregiver and that no, I wasn’t beating her, I was her lifesaver. The cop, sneering, left.
@@alexanderchenf1 No. I wouldn’t have even known how to do that. My big concern was my (our) mother, but I should’ve investigated that. She’s since committed multiple acts of fraud against me, and turned my remaining family against me. So I guess I’d better go ahead and sue, even if just for my own protection. Thanks.
@@douglasjones2570 just for the peace of mind and for to realise you will not tolerate being messed with. She may try other means to hurt you physically. After it all I’d simply go no contact.
According to the SCOTUS it all a matter or the "totality of the circumstances" and how "reasonable" it is, in the opinion of the court. The SCOTUS is NOT the friend of the citizens. They are the pal of the Police. The USA IS a police state. If you don't think so ask them.
@@ExitingBabylon They only sound or seem as though they are in our favor... Clever wording with long winded run on conflicting and contradictory sentences that form loopholes, stonewalling, etc...
I helped a big dude cop at a carwash fighting off a big irate bad dude, it was crazy, cop was losing as twenty black people watched. I hopped out of my truck and took care of business, saved the cop as the thug had his hands on the the cop's holstered gun and was using as a handle. bad move, I took care of him and we had him cuffed and bloodied in three minutes. as the cop caught his breath, other cops were coming with the sirens and all, I just got in the truck and left. a couple days later the cop saw me and said they were looking me up to thank me... he was so grateful I couldnt believe it. he was so happy with me, and said its all on camera. next i worried I'd be in a lawsuit with the bad dude.... but no
Makes me think investing in a steel security door to go between your normal door and the outside of the home may be a good idea. That way you could open your primary door and then talk through the security door without ever needing to open it. Takes away an Officers ability to jam his foot in the door.
Possibly. Or just a good video doorbell, so you could talk through that if you want. I'm not an expert on home defense, but I understand that in some jurisdictions it's recommended to have a steel gate inside the house that you can retreat behind before you use deadly force against an aggressor.
Or just a storm door or old fashioned screen door but always keep them latched or locked. Cops seem to think they can open exterior doors with impunity.
@@phyl1283.. it's not the crooks his worried about but the intruding police . Police are not your friends. They are dangerous to your health , especially if you're young. One our 1,000 b l back youths can be expected to be killed by cops. Wake up mate, times have changed and it's the rule of the tyrannical police kakistocracy and it's members dressed in clown costumes. IMAO :) G'day from Australia mate.
Happened to me once for a complaint of a fight nearby my home. After the door closed onto the foot they went psycho. Didn’t arrest me for assault for closing door BUT the pigs stalked me constantly after that. Driving by home constantly slowly, parking nearby, several frivolous traffic stops on me in the neighborhood. Had to move. Best bet is not opening door.
What you do is get the cop's home address and drive by a few times with a 25K lumen spotlight. Let him know that you also know where he lives....the harassment will stop immediately. I've had to do this and it worked like a charm.
One of the reasons I spend $120 on a steel bars/mesh security door on the outside. I can open the front door for a breeze or to see who is outside but they still can't get in.
Put a size-matched sheet of steel about 3/8 inch thick on the inside face of your door. When he sticks his foot in the door, slam it as hard as you can with lock engaged. That will teach the cop to not do this harassment again, expecially to that same foot.
Yep, I sat in my house and played video games loudly while the cops sat out in the driveway for around 2 hours, he kept pounding on the door, making threats; this was early 90s, no camera phone. After a long time he finally gave up; he really underestimated how long I can play games.
Ask, tell, make. Pepperspray is reasonable force in this regards. Or have a secondary zone you can retreat to and secure, use a door chain that will hold a door with a foot jammed in it to delay their pursuit, and retreat to the next safe zone in the house. If you don't have one, make one. Get a door cage. Or better yet, put up a big old fence and keep it shut and use an intercom. Never make yourself accessible to people who would want to pester you.
The best police incident we had...2 of our friends had property with a few acres they lived on , plain clothes DEA agents went on to their property at night...they had security cameras everywhere...our friends held them at gun point , in the cold wet dirt , until the police came to rescue the agents...of course they did not even have ANY reason to be on their property to begin with...
@@guest_5992 because fuck you that’s why. Try to bankrupt you with lawyer fees before the case can wind down. As the saying goes, you can beat the charge but you can’t beat the ride. Granted, it all depends on what jurisdiction you are in on how far malicious prosecution can go.
The very notion that we have to allow our rights to be violated and ''sort it out later'' has the Founders rolling in their graves. Once your rights have been violated they can't be unviolated. MAYBE you can get some form of compensation, after years in court, but you will still be forever violated. The ONLY time to assert your rights is in the moment. Otherwise, by definition, we have no rights.
@@christopherpakney8542 Someone calls saying you are beating your wife. That is a total fabrication, but you refuse to talk to the police. Your wife is out of town. The police have probable cause, and don't need a warrant. You shoot the police as an intruder. Sounds messed up to me.
@@jonasgreen8260 Havimlng your freedom taken on heresy is messed up. Being treated as guilty, with NO evidence is messed up. Licking your oppressors boots, also messed up. Preservation of your rights and dignity...Priceless
@@jonasgreen8260 A swatting attempt is NOT probable cause. Showing up to barge your way into someone's house because a random person called is not enforcing the law.
The foot stuck in the door is also an attempt to setup an "assaulting a police officer" if you really try to shut the door with their foot in the door.
Depends on the state to some degree. I would argue though that if the officer did not have a valid warrant at that moment they are attempting to make an illegal search and had illegally entered the house.
It always amazes me how the justice system will bend over so far it's head is up it's backside to defend brutality -by the police-. But when a citizen takes reasonable measures to terminate a conversation and closes the door suddenly it's a terrible offense and you better hope we don't fill you with led.
Closing the door is, and in the event the police officer puts his foot in the door no, slamming it is not reasonable, they are not aggressors at that point, and you are literally trying to cause harm. This applies to a citizen just as it does to police. You would need to articulate some reason why battery is justified to prevent what a reasonable person would view as an imminent threat. Say the person at your door has a ski mask on and a crowbar (generic almost cartoon depiction of a robber), say the person is giving you verbal or physical threats, say the person is a known ex lover/stalker who is known to get violent, say they are Jehoash witness (this one's a joke). All of those are articulable reasons why you could justify that battery.
@@LegDayLas if someone wants to slam their door closed shut, I hope nobody has their foot their in the way cop or not you earned a broken foot playing with ppl property.
funny how in none of these cases, the officer who lacks reasonable suspicion/probable cause to enter the property or detain the individual is never charged with kidnapping & trespassing.
In the first case, the guy was running away from an arrest, there was reason, even if the officer did infringe on the law, and as far as I'm concerned, the court made a propper judgement. And on the second one, do you really consider the sticking of an officers foot in your door trespassing? There's just little information known about the case, the court however, did accept his arest as lawful, and this shouldn't be without reason.
@@johannfischerteixeira2968 no more than trying to slam your own door is assualt? I'd still figure it was trespassing though. Can you imagine if you did that to you neighbor? Refused to leave your door frame til you talked to them? I would feel threatened.
@@reddermIt depends on the insistence of the other party, the fact that the othe party was the police in this particular situation is what complicates everything. I'm going by the presuposition that after the cop appeared, the person tried to close the door before they concluded their conversation, which is very suspicious, so the cop put his foot on the door. The person then proceeded to slam the door on the cop's feet in order to stop him, which is even more suspicious. Imagine that the cop had just received a call about a case of child abuse? There definetly are unlawful cops out there, but I still can't help but think that people are a tad too neurotic about this. In the end, I believe that the reaction recommended by the lawyer in the video was the most commendable one. If it was indeed a case of child abuse, even if "breaking" a lot of laws, having saved the life of a kid, the cop would be praised as hero. If he was using of his power for selfish reasons, like getting revenge, extorting money, or something like that, then a lot of people would come out and say that most if not all cops are like that, and ask for the police to be defunded. In reality things are a lot grayer than people would like.
There's an architectural solution: many 1920's Spanish homes have an opening peep door with an iron cage over it. Allows face to face conversation while keeping the door safely locked and dead-bolted. To end the convo, just close the peep door. The iron cage prevents anyone outside from reaching in to stop the peep door from closing.
It’s 2024, there are multiple, cheap intercom doorbell cameras systems such as “ring” that allow you to do that and have the additional benefit of the cop not knowing if you are home or speaking to him remotely. Using a peep door lets them know you are home which could be a problem too.
Incredibly disappointing to hear this. Just saw a video of officers harrasing a man every night at 3am with a knock on his door. He finally opened it to tell them to buzz off but they put their foot in the door. He asked them 20 times to remove their foot from the door but the officer refused. Then as soon as the door lightly touches his boot the officers yanked the man out of his home, assaulted him, then arrested him.
Why not get one of those chain things that only allow the door to open a couple of inches? Sure, they're not very strong, but it seems to me it would be BREAKING and entering if they forced their way in.
Most front doors open in. I had two cops come to my door without a warrant. They said they were on an "Alarm call" and just wanted to "Make sure I was ok". Unfortunately I opened the door to them. One of them put his foot in my door so I couldn't close it. I put my foot on my side of the door so they couldn't come in. It turned out that they wanted to see my ID. I refused and told them to go away. They didn't like that, but I held my ground and they finally left. Lesson learned, don't open the door for the police.
Why doors in USA opens in? That is a fire hazard since in panic you'd want to get out ASAP. That's why all doors in most EU countries opens outside to the front door so you have fastest and easiest way out.
@Megative well, for one, a door opening outwards means hinges are on the outside. It's much easier to break in if that's the case. But really, it depends. Apparently (Google search) hurricane prone areas in the US may have outward opening doors. Some cite inward opening doors to protect from being trapped in by snow, but Denmark, Norway, and Sweden (which recieve significant amounts of snow) open outward Some places have inward opening doors so you can open the door for airflow while leaving the screen door closed. Also, in the US, while most home doors open inward, business doors open outwards for fire risk, like you mentioned
If they were on an alarm call and you act awkward like a buglar may (and yes, burglars have answered doors to police and I think it make for hilarious videos) then you give them a reason to enter and detain you. Instead ask them what alarm call and have them confirm the address and reason over the radio if you're unsure. All they are looking for on an alarm call is to reasonably confirm you're supposed to be there and no one has an emergency, this is the whole reason people pay for alarms...
It's crazy how we need instructional videos on how to defend ourselves from harmful criminals and videos to defend us from Cops. What a world we live in we're everyone is out to get you.
Oh make no mistake: Law Enforcement agencies are the biggest criminal enterprises operating within the United States. Every society on earth has had criminal elements. There's just no way to keep crime from EVER happening. Petty goons mugging people, vandalizing property, etc is all plenty bad enough, but the REALLY dangerous criminals are the ones that get to operate with impunity and have a massive team of apologists and interference runners all working behind the scenes to make it close to impossible to ever hold them accountable (i.e. the cops)
Only the cops are actually out to get you. The percentage of psychopaths in blue is higher than that in the criminal population. Criminals just want money or something they can sell. Cops want to abuse you to compensate for their deficiencies.
There is a video in Colombia, a robber got off the bike and he robbed a woman in the garage of her house when she was opening the door to get in. As the man tried to get to the bike in the street, she was yelling for help, and a driver hit him and he fell on the engine, then the car stopped and fell to the street, and the car ran him over and 2 tires went over his chest. And cops were laughing while watching that outcome.
Have you noticed there are 100 videos on people being attacked by cops and how to defend yourself against cops to every 1 video on attacks by criminals and how to defend yourself against them??? Aaand. . . welcome once again to the Police State of America.
I've seen cases IN Virginia where the officer was charged with unlawful entry for trying that stunt. And in two separate cases in Front Royal VA, the police officers involved were shot,and one killed by entering a home without probable cause nor a warrant. In the second case, the officer survived but was charged with unlawful entry of an occupied structure. So it is NOT advisable for an officer in Virginia to even do so much as stuck his foot in the door. Once a body part crossed threshold HE was in the wrong. Not the homeowner.
I think I remember those cases. I was a long time resident of Front Royal then. I think in the both cases all said and done, they up and moved away and out of Virginia altogether for fear of possible retaliation. Cops don't take kindly to be shot at, even if legitimately and especially if off scot-free for any reason let alone if one is killed. I'd be running too
@@chrismc410 I lived on Virginia Ave. Behind the 7-11. In one case I think you are right. But it was a contributing factor to the entire town council, mayor, and the Warren county sheriff getting voted out. Police chief fired, and a few other changes. Beyond that it's still the same place it's always been. I moved back to Warrenton. Both cases were early 2000s. The Vietnam vet was cleared completely, and the others guy was tried but exonerated because the VA state police ended up with the investigation. Which is what should happen anytime there is an allegation of police misconduct. An outside agency should investigate it rather than internal IA investigating.
@@stevenbaker8184 I was on Blue Ridge Ave and later N. Royal Ave back then. Literally walking distance from the then-Warren County Jail, before the Regional Jail was built
It will never cease to amaze me that police can do anything they want to us while being paid officers of the law, but we have to be absolute angels to avoid prosecution.
@@ComfortsSpecter you're right, instead of saying that we citizens must be absolute angels to avoid prosecution, i should have said, to avoid being beat and shot by police extrajudicially.
@@sheepwshotguns42That’s a massive exaggeration, if you’re polite and cooperative it is exceedingly rare to encounter what you said. People just want to act like monkeys and expect no consequences
@@citricdemon I was working full time at 16 so I missed it, BUT is that elected? even so, I think it needs to be taught year after year, not just one class.
Years ago I had the police show up at my door and I answered the door (I know, this was pre-RUclips so I didn't have the benefit of your videos!) and they presented me with a warrant to search the premises. I later saw that the warrant was not signed by a judge, and when I then went to a lawyer with this he said it didn't matter since I allowed them in voluntarily. Sure seems like that would be "voluntary" under false pretenses, but it didn't seem to matter. This was in Nebraska, BTW. Anyway - like you always say, just don't answer the door for police if you're not expecting them!
You have a right to see the warrant and sometimes the supporting affidavit. Evidence obtained with a clearly defective warrant would likely be suppressed this is esp. true if you pointed out the defect to the searching police. They will then likely try to assert an exception defense. DO NOT interfere with the search just take notes about what they say, do, etc. and the fact that you have directed them to leave your domicile. IF they ask any questions, just assert your 5th amed. right and shut up.
you had a shitty lawyer. A warrant without a signature of a sitting judge, isn't valid. It would be viewed as a forgery. A judge would have a field day with the officers. Any charges, or evidence would get immediatly thrown out. Your lawsuit would pay, pay, pay.
I've had the police show up at my door at 3 am in the morning looking for the owner of a specific car. I was able to direct them to the proper house. What they didn't know is that I answered the door armed and then hid my firearm while talking with them. People pose as the police and there are bad cops out there. Being prepared is key.
Me too. And don't fall for the "I'm taking your gun while we talk for my saftery" bullshit. You should NEVER give up your second, just because an officer is a coward.
In PA, the laws don't matter. Most of the lower court judges are dirty and don't care about the law. The public defenders aren't qualified enough to file documents much less defend you and unless you want to sit in jail for two to three years waiting for your appeal to have the case thrown out, you are completely screwed.
No law says you must answer the door, cops or not. I lived in a sketch apartment building back in the day. My neighbors were a-holes and always in trouble with the law. I learned one can ignore pounding at the door. Without a warrant they cannot do a thing. And my neighbors would frequently use my address or other apts addresses so the cops would get it wrong so often....I just began to ignore they were at the door.
It's sad that there are such widespread problems with law enforcement that you can't even cooperate with an investigation without risking legal jeopardy even if you're innocent.
@@spin-rg9ib, writes _"its sad that people think things that happen maybe 1% of the time happens ALL the time when the encounter police."_ Research the _Reid Technique,_ this stuff in endemic.
A few years ago, my niece was visiting me from out of town, and I had some friends over for board games. It was a saturday afternoon and a police officer came to my house and she was asking if "there had been anything strange going on" in the neighborhood. I stepped outside and spoke to her. It wasn't until I started watching these videos that I realized that in the course of "casual conversation", she had subtly investigated why there was a young woman (at the time 15) seen at a house with several adult men. It was clear that we were literally playing board games and eating burgers, which I readily provided that information. The officer departed, apparently satisfied with what she learned, but I think back and I am surprised how easily I just offered her the information. I will be much more careful about this in the future.
Think the other way around A police officer sees a young girl with several adult men, checking if the girl is in danger and maybe not there out of her own free will does seem to me a responsible , intteligent and dare i say professional way way of executing her duties .
what was harmful about sharing the truth? Maybe someone thought they saw something (a female in danger) and thought they better say something to be safe. Sounds like the interaction was fine, not sure why you are hesitant about bragging about a family cookout
I work with a lot of attorneys, all civil stuff, never criminal... I find most to be omni-directional goofballs on a learning curve, trying to understand what I already know. I tell them what to do for me, and how. I outgrow them too quickly. Good attorneys are worth two three times the money, as the average schmuck lawyer that roams the streets looking for something, knows next to nothing. law schools dont teach what you think they teach. lawyers are self-made or they're nothing, like a professor, only a few really understand what they spew.
@@fresh_dood tell me you're trying to sound intelligent without being intelligent. Look up the statistics of complaints against police departments. Just because you've never experienced or witnessed it personally, does not mean it's not happening. This channel would not be successful or necessary if violations of civil rights weren't occurring. As to why you've decided to make my statement your personal crusade to contradict, I don't know. But rather than denying and deflecting, do the research yourself. Start with the thousands of cases documented on RUclips and then compare statistics. It's simple.
@@BanduTheGreat no, you make a claim, you provide specific examples. why this is hard for so many griffons on the internet is beyond me. but thanks for a response that goes beyond a personal attack, at least
When I was young, I drove fast, flashy cars, like Mustang GTs and GTOs. On several occasions, I got stopped and ticketed for driving well over the speed limit, even though I was driving UNDER the limit. Cops get off on ticketing kids with hot cars. On two occasions, I decided to go to court and the cops lied under oath and, of course, the judge took their word over mine, even though I was an Eagle Scout, an honor student, and later, a college grad with a good job. I finally gave up and started driving non-descript bland cars and the harassment stopped. At 82, and a decorated veteran and retired successful businessman, I still have no use for the police. They soured me long ago.
@@bohemoth1 correct but show me any warrant that does require the signature and be dated by a judge. Different rules for different local jurisdictions.
It also has to describe WHAT is being searched for, and generally WHERE they can search. FROM WHAT I'VE READ for example, they can't search inside locked furniture, safes, etc. unless the warrant specifically covers them and you are also not required to unlock items if the warrant doesn't cover it. However, that information is from about 20 years ago and it's possible court rulings have changed the search rules/laws. It's may even be the case they can't force you to unlock ANYTHING to facilitate their search...similarly to the rulings that the police can't force you to unlock your cellphone/mobile as it amounts to self-incrimination...so they have to ask Apple or another party to crack your phone's security.
Then at that point asking apple to unlock it is abusive of state power. The state can’t violate your rights by mandating a 3rd party do it. That’s like the government violating the 3rd amendment by having mercenaries instead of soldiers crash there
Why is your property still not treated like your home? You should be able to go outside as long as you are on your on property with the same protections and if you tell them to leave that should mean not just the home (if you let them in) but the bounding box of your property.
This is why I tell people to get a ring or nest door camera. Uniformed Cops came to my door, no warrant, looking for someone who had same name as me ( my name is common). They knocked and I answered on camera and they asked if I could step outside to talk about out standing warrant. I had none so I asked what it was about. They literally said they didn’t know what it was just that my name popped up and if I could come outside. I said no thank you and glad I did because my BIL (who is a cop) told me they would have taken me in just to investigate. Never open door for cops you didn’t call yourself
Uh... no. Because Amazon owns Ring, and they currently give all audio and video recorded by Ring devices to law enforcement without a warrant. In some cases, they've even turned on the device on when the police asked, essentially letting them bug your house without a warrant.
This is just ridiculous. Officers getting away with this behavior is no different then me throwing myself in front of a moving car and claiming that they struck me.
Besides the CCTV security cameras I have surrounding my house, I have also placed a sign next to the front walk to my house that states "Law Enforcement: Your implied license to conduct a 'knock and talk' at this address has been revoked permanently. Signed the Owner" And besides the sign and cameras I will never open the door to the police. They can either show up with a warrant or leave. I have NO RESPECT for law enforcement anymore. And I am a retired police officer!
The intent - was not to slam the foot! His foot wasn't there until the act of closing the door was already taking place. The officer knew the door was being close, thereby placing his foot in harms way on purpose!
10-40% of police violate ur rights. Wouldnt put it past 1 or 2 bad cops to just enter ur home when ur door is open and the rest simple shrug"cant arrest my fellow cop, cause that bad"
As a teenager, I once had two detectives come to my door. I open the door, thinking they were salesman and told them I wasn’t interested and went to close the door when one of the officers stuck his foot in the door to stop it. Then they began to question me if I knew a certain person, and showed me a photograph, which I did not I never saw them again, but it was very strange that they just shove their foot in the door. But I later realized that they use the photograph to get my finger print Because I looked like someone they were looking for Mistaken identity
Did they identify themselves as police? if you slam the door on his foot, you might be responsible for civil damages but not the criminal charge of assaulting a police officer. Of course, I don't go around slamming doors on peoples' feet, just to avoid a lawsuit. In the same vein, if they ID themselves as police, and began the interview by sticking a foot in my door, I will politely reply that I have nothing to say until I have consulted with legal counsel. Keep it cool. Remember, they have guns.
@@baraxor They never had a chance to identify themselves Before I was closing the door. The foot was first Then the said they were not here to sell anything they were detectives, and they wish to ask some questions about a missing person.
It's the cop's duty to arrest and throw people in jail, and likewise, to find reasons to do so. They have no duty to be fair and impartial--that's what the courts are for. The more you tell them, the more rope you give them to hang (arrest) you with, even if you're completely innocent.
@@trucid2 I agree they use everything against you. I don't agree that they have no duty to be fair. I think a better formulation would be they have no duty to cut someone a break, but they do have a duty to follow the law.
@@trucid2 I agree. And sometimes following the law means being unfair. For example, some states have "must arrest" laws regarding domestic violence. If a man raises his hand to block his partner's slap, and in so doing leaves a bruise on the woman's arm, following the law might require an arrest because of an injury. In the Pepito case in Utah there is evidence that the couple were both striking one another, which should have led to at least one arrest, but neither wanted the other arrested and "being fair" mean the cops walked away. An error, or an error only in hindsight? I believe Dickens wrote a statement something to the effect of "it that's what the law requires, then the law is an ass." Sometimes, the law is definitely an ass.
I've personally had this exact situation happen to me. Went to visit my dad on a Saturday, we were going to go out to lunch. When I arrived he wasn't quite ready. He said there was a Western on TV the night before that he hadn't seen in a long time and he stayed up to watch it. So he slept in a bit. I told him no problem, take his time and we can leave for lunch when he was ready. While he was in the shower there was a knock at the door. When I opened the door there were three cops standing on the porch. They immediately asked by name for my father without explaining why they were there and as to why they wanted to speak to him. I asked them what this was pertaining to and they said it was regarding a matter that didn't involve me. I said I'm aware of that, but if they were asking to speak to my father, my dad was going to want to know why they were there? Again they said I didn't need to know. I said if they were there selling tickets to a police fundraiser that my dad would surely not be interested and that I wasn't going to bother him. They finally said it was pertaining to a matter regarding my dad and mom the night before (They were separated). When I went to close the door as to relay their request to speak to my father. One of the cops stuck his foot in the door, preventing me from closing it. That didn't sit well with me. I turned around as to face the cop and told him that I was going to close the door, that if he didn't want to lose his foot. I strongly suggested he remove it. In which he did. I closed the door and walked down the hallway to my father's bedroom. He had just gotten out of the shower and I told him the police were at the door asking to speak to him. He said he had gone out to dinner the night before with my mom and they got into an argument and she threatened she was going to call the police. My dad said he thought she was just blowing steam in the heat of the moment but apparently she did. My dad said no problem, just tell the police that he just got out of the shower and as soon as he was dressed he would be out to speak with them. As I stepped out of my dad's bedroom, back into the hallway. There I found myself staring down the barrels of three guns. All three cops had entered the house, weapons drawn and told me I was under arrest. I asked what for? They said threatening a police officer. They stretched me suggesting he remove his foot or lose it as a "Threat". They called a patty wagon and took me down to whatever precinct they were out of, booked me and released me with a court date. Was total B.S. and a waste of time. When the court date came, had to take the day off work, lost wages. Drove to the city, had to pay for parking. Then sat in court for hours until my case was called. The judge picked up the case fold, opened it, skim read it for a few seconds and closed the folder. Then picked up his gavel and slammed it down stating case dismissed. The judge never asked me a question. He knew it was a wrongful arrest and dismissed it. So word to the wise, when the police are by your house. Lock the doors and don't open them.
Wow, that sounds like a lot of detail for something that happened so quick. Are you sure it happened the way you're telling it, or are you just trying to stir up drama?
@kiillabytez if you've done nothing wrong they might try really hard to find something or make something up. Nothing happens to them when false charges are dismissed! They know exactly how to jam people up and what they have to embellish to do it.
I had cameras (with microphone and audio) installed on my home after a series of package thefts and car vandalisms in my area. They are great. I can watch them via an app in real time on my phone from work. They are always on, but begin recording the moment motion is detected. Point is, cops can't put their foot in your door if you don't open the door. You can talk to them, or not, through the microphone, which is very loud. Which also negates their claim "We can't hear you unless you open the door."
Maybe you haven't seen the viral videos all over the Web - of cops obstructing and removing homeowners surveillance cameras. Common tactic for cops 'swatting' or serving warrants to 'disable private property cameras' first. Many 'interior cameras' have been disabled upon forced entry. It's very common - the police state doesn't like transparency and accountability. Law enforcement institution has become extremely militarized and unreasonably secretive.
I have cameras installed in my house after a series of home invasions BY POLICE officers. I've told their commanding officers I'm eager to sue them, and it stopped... weird, huh?
The permission to openly LIE to citizens is for me a huge issue. And citizens are not allowed to lie back to them. If a cop comes to my door and says something, why should I not be allowed to state, "oh, so you're saying that there was a call or complaint. Tell me more about this alleged complaint." In other words, simply repeat whatever nonsense they are telling you. Start with, "oh so you're saying ..."
If they give you an order, just comply no matter how much in the wrong you feel they are being. Take them to court if they are. No sense in getting charges added to your case.
I think they are allowed to lie for investigation purposes. Undercover work comes to mind. Traffic enforcement, such as saying they clocked you for speeding and asking how fast were you going, trying to get you to admit to speeding. Or telling a criminal his friend is ratting him out, so what actually happened? Another reason people are seperated when questioning, so they don't know what the other person really said. The issue I have is when cops don't know laws and lie about it, such as being detained and probable cause to search.
@@connor3288 It's a cat and mouse game. It's their job to prove your guilt. It's your job to prove your innocence. "Just the facts, ma'am." You know what gets me? People who read the first sentence of a law and think they know the law, but don't really have comprehension of what they read. It's not the law's fault, though they are worded strangely for the most part, but the one spewing malice while not providing an example, only screaming "You don't know your own laws" just makes me want to slap the spit from their mouths.
@@connor3288 If you can quote the law the way a Preacher can quote bible verse, I might actually believe you when you say you know the law, but screaming at someone that they don't know law, is childish in any verbal exchange.
Can you put foot into a police car when they are refusing to identify(their policy as a public servant)? Can you charge them with assault when they exit the vehicle and attack you?
1 - No. You have no lawful reason to enter their car or damage it in any way even if they are violating their department policy by refusing to identify. 2 - Yes, if it turns out their 'attack' was unlawful, which you will have to prove in court. But to use the complete scenario here - if you 'put your foot into the police car' because they declined to identify themselves to your satisfaction, then regardless of whether or not they have such a policy they can place you under arrest for kicking their car, and you will not be able to 'charge them with assault' for their having arrested you. The best advice anyone can follow for police misconduct is...be calm, remain civil, let them take whatever action they are going to take, and then complain/sue them after the fact. Only if you truly believe they are going to kill you should you resort to a life and death type reaction. And I mean truly believe they are about to kill you - not just 'I can make up an argument that they were going to'. Because at the end of the day, if you're wrong you will catch a charge for whatever you did to resist them; and even if you are right, you could end up dead trying to fight with them. Better to live, and get rich, than be right and be dead, yes?
@@Mythryl12--I agree. But why are they above the law, by Breaking the Plane of the front door("I was concerned for my safety, that an unwanted intrusion of my castle, might result in injuries to me. He has many weapons. I was scared! That's why I responded to the threat by slamming MY door on his foot, AFTER warning"). HOWEVER, in one of The Battousai cases(not Turner vs Driver, but I can't find This video), the judge ruled that the possibly illegal searches of Battousai's car while he was being detained, was OK because while searching INSIDE the vehicle(glove box, under seats, etc), the cop still had ONE foot on the ground Outside the vehicle. The rest of him was Inside the vehicle. How does that Not break the plane, while engaging in the Plain View Doctrine?
@@ronmcmartin4513 They aren't 'above the law'. The law is applied the same to everyone in the same circumstances. Law enforcement officers are by definition often in different circumstances because their duties require them to take actions that a person without their training and authority would not be allowed to take. So that is why some times an officer can do a thing that a person who is not a sworn peace officer cannot do. As to the specifics of your case or any other case...that's the problem; it depends on the exact specifics. For instance, it's not enough to just say that you were 'concerned for your safety' because he had his foot in the door. You would have to explain exactly how that made you concerned, and it would have to establish a fear that any reasonable person would have in the same circumstances; and each incident like this must be considered case by case. I'm not familiar with the other case you are citing; we could discuss that if you like, but keep in mind that even judges are human and make mistakes, and often their decisions are later overruled. Only when a decision reaches the Supreme Court is it 'final'...and even then, sometimes a later Supreme Court can change that decision.
@@Mythryl12--Thanks for the reply. Cops seem to be the only Sovereign Citizens('Laws don't apply to us'). "You would have to explain exactly how that made you concerned [for your safety]" The same way a cop explains that a 1A auditor's Camera taking video from a "reasonable" distance, per the SCOTUS ruling, is "Scary". Cops just explain to Internal Affairs('We investigated ourselves, and found No wrongdoing') Who is more dangerous? The auditor with a phone/camera(which some cops mistakenly see as a Bazooka/RPG), or some cop who can't tell the difference between their Gun & their Taser(Daunte Wright) ruclips.net/video/gXWvS9GYcfA/видео.html
That exact thing happened to me when a constable tried to serve a warrant on my new GF that wasn't home. I got beat up on my porch, tazed, and his wife jumped out of their truck and pepper sprayed me. I got charged with assault on a public servant and sentenced to a year probation. My neighbors that witnessed it wouldn't testify in my defense because they were afraid of what this jersey would do. A few years later him and his wife were sent to prison for defrauding the county out of hundreds of thousands on their expense reports.
Names? Otherwise this sounds like a fake ass reddit post. If they were arrested, their names are public info. Share it so we know who the bastards are.
Had a couple cops come to my door once. I had been inside all day. They knocked, I saw the blue / red lights through the window. So I turned on the door cam, asked them "something I can do for you". They acted like they couldn't hear me. I waited, finally they knocked on the door again. " I said. I know you can hear me. I can literally hear my own voice coming back through the mic. I am not coming to do the door. Is there something I can help you with". Finally one of them spoke "Yes hello, I'm officer so and so, we were responding to a call about a bla bla bla, we just wanted to ask you a few questions". He said "can I ask your name first of all?". I said, "you can but I won't share it. If you were here looking for me you would already know my name and I do not wish to be involved in whatever situation is going on. The last thing I need is my name in a police report for a situation I'm not involved in." He was obviously getting irritated by this point he said something like "we are just trying to do our job and you are not helping". I said "Exactly. I really do appreciate whatever it is you are working on but I can't help you. I don't know anything about any situation that could involve the police, I didn't see anything, hear anything, or know anything that could interest whatever you are investigating and if you are looking for someone its not me. So please feel free not to waste any more time on here.". He said something like "thank for your time" and they turned around to leave. About 1/2 way back down my path he said "what a jerk". To which I responded over the intercom. "I can still hear you". They literally started walking twice as fast lol.
@@nukepuke932 You right. Its not like any informed citizen with a $50 door cam ever had a succinct interaction with police. The sad reality is that I know the police wanted me to come outside and that whatever their reason for that it wouldn't be good for me. For all I know they were investigating a neighbor nearby and told their partner to make sure they saw them talking to me. Then they have a brief conversation with me on the porch and go back to their suspect to say "that guy saw you do it" whatever "it" is. Now I'm in the suspects crosshairs as a potential witness. Maybe they call their friends and make sure I never make it to court when I never even said I saw anything. Just another pawn for police who don't care if I live or die. Maybe they just want to get my ID. Cops seems to walk ID like its crack. They arrest hundreds every day for refusing to give them ID despite the fact that refusing to give it to them is literally a constitutional right. If I go outside they have much more control over the situation to try and force me to hand over my papers. If I don't go to the door, they can't even be sure I am even home, they certainly can't force their way into my house without a warrant or serious legal consequences if they do it anyway. I get it, they are investigating something, and they want all the information they can get. But I was honest when I said I didn't have any information for them. I hadn't seen or hear anything that might be related to any crimes and I didn't want my name appearing in any police reports than literally anyone can pull a copy of. Worse for all I know someone was murdered. My name goes in a report. A couple years later maybe I am living somewhere else and someone is murdered. The police come and question me again, put my name in a report. They can't find who did it but they see that my name appeared in connection with another murder years ago. With no other suspects they bring me in for further questioning. They ask me some questions, twist my answers, finally seeing what they are doing I demand a lawyer. Now they are more convinced than every that I am guilty. Why would an innocent man need a lawyer they claim. The next thing I know I'm on trial for two murders of people I never knew based entirely on circumstantial evidence (which people are convicted on every day). And all I did was my civic duty of answering the door and answering question for the police who are "just there to protect me after all". Ye right. If you don't think these situtations actually exist then you are living in a fantasy world. Go to any prison and talk to the inmates. If you don't believe their stories then pull their case files. A shocking number of current inmates are convicted on exactly this type of circumstantial evidence based on police interactions that they thought were trivial at the time. But they live in a bad neighborhood and their name keeps getting into police reports despite no direct connection to any crimes and before long they are a suspect in everything that happens around them. Police only care about getting an arrest. That is how they get promotions and raises. DAs only care about getting convictions, thats how they stay in office. Public defenders only care about getting their paycheck. They have already failed as lawyers, thats why they are public defenders, so winning or losing doesn't really matter to them. None of them care about justice. The best we can do is stay out of their world as much as possible.
i want to add my two cents to this in a situation i had with law enforcement and a police report... no matter what you do, they can lie all day long on reports, statements, etc... my situation, i was in bed with covid, the officer came to house and i did not answer door, etc... i have an attorney that i use for situations that has always taught me to not speak to police without attorney present... on the police report, the police officer stated that he could hear people inside talking and could hear the phrase "he's outside". completely fabricated statement... however the goal of the police is to make everything suspicious, etc.... he left a card which i forwarded the info to my attorney who contacted him and told him he could meet at attorney office and we would be happy to hear what he wants to say, but other than that i am using the 5th. on the police report, the officer lied and said i nor my attorney ever made contact with him...
That's why cameras have been great... They are showing more and more the dishonesty. And most of the time, it's just cops egos or laziness they are lying for
@John Wortham silence is better than lying. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, whether it's true or not. Although I think, as long as you don't provide them with a false identity. If you aren't legally obligated to provide the information, don't. I don't see how lying about something that's none of their business in the first place matters. Cop. What are you doing out at this time of night? Me. Whatever I want. Cop. Where are you coming from? Me. Down yonder. Cop. Where are you headed? Me. Through the woods to mothers' house, I go. Cop. Well, do you know that this is a well-known drug area? Me. What does that gotta do with me? Cop. Given the time of night and the area, I think that maybe you're out here trying to score. Me. I don't care what you think. Cop. Really, how about I take a look in your vehicle!? Me. How about no! I don't consent to a search of my vehicle! Cop. You are making me think that you are hiding something. Me. Silence. Cop. If you don't have anything to hide, why not let me take a look? Me. Silence. Cop. This is your last chance to tell me if you have anything in the car that I should know about. Me. Silence. Cop. Fine, I'm going to get a dog down here, and you better hop he doesn't find anything. Me. DO I SMELL BACON? BACON BACON BACON, I LOVE BACON! 1 Eternity later. Cop. Get outta here, and don't let me catch you on this side of town again! Me. See you next Friday, porky. Pigs hate me, but I don't care because my mama loves me.
@@logansilva8017 I believe the SC has ruled that you can't just remain silent but must invoke the 5th Amendment. At which point you can remain silent from then on unless, or until, a judge demands you answer questions. AT which point I would invoke the "Clinton Ploy:" Which is to preface every answer with "To the best of my memory" or "I don't recall that!"
Andrew defended me on a speeding ticket a year or so ago, great guy, walked me through every step, and end result was all charges dropped. Couldn't ask for more. If you live in VA and are in the Fredericksburg area, Andrew is your guy for legal advice.
In CDA Idaho a man shut his front door and a female officer put her foot in it, then her partner put his shoulder against it. The judge ruled that when the female officer put her foot across the threshold of the mans house, she violated his fourth amendment rights. All charges were dropped.
I have a security door with a deadbolt, and had a cop try multiple times (like over a dozen) try to jiggle the knob as he was both knocking and ringing the bell. And when I answered, all he wanted was to ask me if I knew the drunk guy on my sidewalk. I didn’t, but it was a weird conversation at 3 in the morning. But I was a young home owner and didn’t know I could just not answer. That’s at least something… Thx
Kind of hard for me to agree with the law enforcement while sitting on a jury hearing a cop willfully put their foot in the way of danger. They would loose all credibility from me at that moment.
The cops are a very scary thing. One time I called them to make a police report because this woman was leaving threats on my old phone and my new phone. My old phone that still had credit left. My new phone that I was going to keep because it was a government granted phone. I showed him the threats on both phones. And he quickly turned it around on me and kept asking why I had 2 phones. Even though I had already explained why.
Civil Forfeiture dollar signs started falling in front of his eyes. “Two Phones!” Let’s take their house car and phones and make them prove they are not used to sell drugs!”
@@pmc1727 lol. I had 2 phones because I had my old phone that still had credit. And I had my new phone because it was a go granted phone, which was the one I was planning on keeping and using.
It's a shame that a few bad apples in law enforcement have made it where you feel unsafe just simply opening your door to talk to them. There was a time where if a police officer came to your home you'd invite them in, offer them something to drink, and calmly and casually talk them (provided you did nothing wrong). When the laws make criminals out of the innocent, there's something wrong with the laws.
This is great advice. I remember one time in Seattle when I called the police for a noise complaint about a garage band a block away after 10 PM and a squad rolled up to my door and asked me to step outside. I had consumed a couple cocktails and for some reason decided they were after me at that time, so I politely refused to step outside, but remained cordial and said I would be happy to answer any questions they had from inside my house, They then left and the music stopped; I got lucky, but will remember your video and my luck, thanks!
They were probably just annoyed that they had to do some actual work. The cops there are so underfunded in terms of actual officers that very little gets a response, even if you've got the suspect on camera breaking the law, you might not get a response if the prosecutors don't care about the crime.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade so underfunded they pay every single on of their officers administrative leave even when being investigated for murder, right? Something almost no other agency does. Maybe they aren't underfunded. Maybe they're money goes to the wrong shit. Food for thought.
When I was 18 years old, me and my girl friend had an argument and a neighbor called the cops on us. When they showed up, I opened the door, saw it was the cops and immediately slammed the door in their faces. I've seen the cops in Houston put their feet in doors and in some cases snatch people outside of a home because the persons body was an inch or two over the threshold of the door. They tried to get me to open the door and come outside so they could just talk😒 to me. They gave up after I told them we were going to pop some popcorn and watch a movie. Now I won't even open the door or speak to them through it.
you got lucky, me and my wife got into an argument, neighbor called the cops, they showed up banging on the door, when I told them through the door we don't need them, they said they call a call for possible domestic abuse and I could open the door, or they'd kick it down and arrest me for resisting a lawful search. I opened the door, they then detained me, while asking where my wife was, she was in bed naked laying ontop of the sheets (It's was Summer, its Texas, and our AC wasn't working properly so it was still hot inside the house at 10pm) when an officer burst into our bedroom, mind you from the argument to when the cops actually arrived was 40 minutes. During this time our dog which was in a kennel was growling and barking, and the asshole cop drew his gun on my dog and told me to calm it down or he'd put it down because a locked kennel appearantly isn't good enough. I was able to calm the dog down though. The cop that went into the bedroom woke my wife and insisted on hearing what happened, while shes trying to quickly cover up. This is how it usually goes, and we are white.
@@candle86 They cannot come into your home if there's no probable cause or a warrant. If she is saying that she is Ok and nobody saw a crime taking place they simply can't kick a door in. They threatened to come into my apartment and the office offered the key. They quickly told them it was illegal. The cops will lie and tell you whatever works and it isn't against the law for them to do it. Yelling and screaming in your home is not illegal.
@@billywilliams4183 Considering their excuse of domestic violence, that is one of the causes they can use without a warrant, they know it, I know it. They where comming in, and I had no recourse.
I made a decision to exit my home from a different door when I got "the knock". There were about forty law enforcement vehicles in the road. So I grabbed my deed and ID before locking myself out of my house and saying "Good morning! Can I help you?" I had no idea why they targeted my house. It turns out they had a warrant to search a similar address that no longer existed, because I asked to see the warrant and pointed out that they were at the wrong address. The head honcho persisted and asked if he could search my property "as a courtesy". I refused. A neighbor who saw the commotion drove up and eventually was allowed to explain that the subject property had burned down and reverted to the county for back taxes. The reason they were there with K-9 units and every sheriff's vehicle imaginable was to look for a huge piece of construction equipment that would never have fit in a house. And it turned out that the rental company had made a mistake. The rental had been properly returned three years earlier. So, I could have had the sheriffs department break into my home and put me in danger for no lawful reason. Exiting my home was the smartest action at that time. We've since moved to a much more secure property that is in a corporate trust. That was a legal mistake too close to the danger zone for my tastes.
They would have completely destroyed your home and everything you own while doing their search, and they are not responsible for any cleanups or repairs.
@@coop5329 They also likely would have broken down the door in close proximity to when they actually knocked and announced themselves. I do think that the police should be responsible for damage they've done, at least in cases where there isn't a conviction resulting from their search. But, politicians would rather saddle a few with the large expense than have to justify raising taxes to cover the damage the cops do.
You cannot win in these situations. The only question is how much is it going to cost you and your family to be left alone if you’ve done nothing wrong.
K9 units to look for heavy equipment??? A bunch of cops to look for heavy equipment??? Cops came to my place once. 22 officers all wearing brand new body armor and carrying AR 15's. They had a brand new duce and a half truck and a bunch of other accessories. They were there on a false tip. I asked the agent in charge if they were using this for a traing exercise and he confessed it was. They lose funding if they don't use their gear. It's one of the reasons they send too many cops. K9 units when they're not needed etc.
@CAUTIOUS1 It could have been training. Later, I found out that the person who owned the property did have a construction business, AND they had been in prison before that. So I think they may have thought he was dangerous or they may have been fishing for a possible drug crime. With everything they brought that day, I thought it was a shakedown.
I feel this was missing the most likely situation: we had "a call" or received "a complaint" and need to verify everyone in the home is safe. I've seen that on countless videos and it basically seems to give them cart blanche to enter and search due to "exigent circumstances". And once they are in they won't leave until THEY are satisfied.
Why not mention the obvious way of getting them out of your house unsatisfied? It would be a great learning lesson for the next cop thinking about infringing rights.
@@rockysquirrel4776 I am a cop and it is possible to lie about a call. But it is also very easy to prove a lie. Secondly, despite what your tik tok says, we hate lying, corrupt, criminal cops probably more than you do. Close down your social media, turn off your phone and welcome to the real world.
If you don’t open your door, they must break in. Period. Even if you are speaking through the door, that’s a big bridge for the to cross, with consequences they must work hard to avoid. Don’t open the door! Not even answering works too, but if they truly perceive some beef with you, they’ll get to you unless you yourself really work. Whether you completely avoid or work to defuse/appease us a judgment call.
Never open the door, they will come in if they have warrant. If he put his feet intentionally to the harms way, it should be his own problem. Officer should know it will hurt unless he takes the feet out. Always demand to see the warrant, check the name and address and what the warrant let the officers do.
2 officers tried to enter my place, claiming they heard I had a gun. I asked them if I was being placed under arrest and they said no, as long as I let them in. I refused and they said they could arrest me and get a warrant to search my place after or I could let them search and they'll leave once they confirmed. So I told them there wasn't anything illegal in my place and I asked them, Is that how it works and they said yes...so I said,"oh, then I chose option 2...I'll grab my coat, contact my lawyer to meet me at the station and you can go get your warrant"...They changed their minds, so when I said this conversation is over, good bye and tried to close the door, one of the officers decided to place his foot between the door. I asked him to remove his foot, but he wouldn't respond, so I yelled at him, to ensure people around could hear that I clearly told him to remove his foot from my doorway, but he just yelled back, "No!". I smiled and said this is bullshit and told him this incident is being recorded on video and that I was calling my attorney. My attorney asked them over my phone, for their Pin number and name and told them, by preventing me from shutting my door, they were unlawfully detaining me....they didn't give him either, but just said, we're just leaving and walked away. Moral of the story; get video surveillance around your home and always try and record any interactions with police officers. Whether or not they're the good or corrupt once; it deters most of them from doing stupid things.
ROTFLMAO I agree with "Don't talk to the police!" idea, however, we've all seen the videos where the cops say they have a warrant on record, they just don't have a "hard copy" with them!
Depending on the type of warrant they may not need to have a copy on hand. They can effect arrest on some warrants (such as a felony arrest warrant for a specific individual) upon seeing said individual and based upon their knowledge that the warrant is valid regardless of whether or not they have any of the paperwork in hand.
@diane Taylor I would LOVE to see them "kick in" my door (opens the wrong way for that) and if they try pulling the hinges... They will find I cut the heads off the pins, and reinserted them... They are gonna be there a while! - And if they do make it inside...My Dogs will attack them, and I will be shooting the "intruders" - So I say, Good Luck!
@@originalSiiiN No, but legally they've made a statement of accepting the consequences. They'll have to argue ignorance or probable cause while talking out of both sides of their mouths. They've tacitly accepted it, and if the police taught me anything, tacit admittance is enough to charge and shoot for.
Cops did that to me as I was shutting the door. I trapped his foot with the door and held it. Still insisting they state their business. When they had no business, they need to leave
I'm glad you are telling people these tips. I've been in some of the circumstances you discuss in your videos. Sometimes people get put in these situations by mistake and it is still just as important to protect your own rights even when you didn't break the law or they will trample them.
Generally the police can assume you are guilty or assume you are innocent.. it is the courts that will assume innocence until guilt is proven. People make the mistake that police have to make the assumption of innocence.. they do not.. they have to make judgment calls based on real time interactions and/or complaints filed. It is their job, if they believe you are guilty, to seek you arrest so that the case may be passed to the courts to determine innocence or guilt.
@@kiillabytez when they are looking for someone or something, you might match that description. So just don't answer the door so you don't need to go through the hassle of proving your innocence.
@@hellboy19991 I once fit the description of a killer in Washington state. A cop even showed me the wanted poster. Even the hair was spot on. After talking with me, we both laughed about it and I got a copy of the poster to show all my friends. It was pretty cool.
Thank goodness technology is evolving to the point where just about any of us can afford them. We just need to get into the habit of looking before we leap.
There's an issue when you need a law degree to interact with the law enforcement officer yet they can act like clueless children cause of qualified immunity.
They do not even have to know the law, they just have to know how to arrest you
You don't need a law degree, just know your basic rights.
@@MrEkzotic you need a law degree, while everything you see here is basically correct it may not be in all cases the best.
plus you have to be careful to know exactly what when why how and in which order you do or say certain things
Here is what is recommended by the local police: When a cop knocks on your door, you should open it, say "I am guilty", turn around with your hands behind your back, crossed at the wrists and wait for the cuffs to be put on and locked twice. You may spit in the cops face if you like and that will result in a take down or a 9 mm bullet in the back, all of which is in the pursuit of justice in America. You should understand that Freedom is not free, except for cops. You are ONLY a citizen.
I have noticed that cops jump back in their cars and call their parents, to ask them what they are supposed to do next.
I appreciate cops, and stupid people, it would be terribly boring, if we were all alike. We need something besides cops and laws, because it ain’t workin’. My lawyer is a drug addicted alcoholic, more friend than lawyer, but he’s honest with me, and has guided me for over 40 years, and I’ve never been to prison, so far.
Cheers!
Retired LEO here. NEVER open your door to a police officer without a warrant.
No don't open the door even with a warrant...cops lie as you well know and have done...if they have a warrant they will come in
dont open the door period im am not required to help the police do there job i cant upstruct as warran and i wont but i dont have to move or speak ruther they have a warrant or not
I opened the door when two local police and one federal (FBI) agent was at my door. I was on the phone and the moment the woman told me "FBI" I was so dumb founded I closed the door, told my friend I have to go. Then opened the door and stepped outside my apartment to figure out what was going on.
Long story short some lawyers at Equifax decided to "sick" the police including the FBI on me for demanding they stop mailing me. To be fair even though I disclaimed three time's "I am not making a threat, I am expressing my opinion, and in my opinion your behavior is why mass shootings happen." is a bit spicy I understand that and yet I'm not wrong. We had a polite 20-30 minute long conversation where I was very careful with what I said to her and her tag along boys.
To be honest I thought she was with social services do to my mothers poor health and status as disabled. I could not comprehend why they thought I was a possible danger to others. I was so painfully clear at how disgusting Equifax was to assert the only way they had to respect my right to be left alone was to give them my Social Security number. The biggest problem isn't them demanding it, it was them fronting themselves as "lendnation blot com" I demanded to know how they'd even gotten my social security number and everyone one of the three plus "supervisors" hand waved the freaking question away. If they told me "We're an equifax subsidiary" I'd have told them "Ok I will contact Equifax directly and get them to put my on their do not contact list as I'm already on the federal do not mail registry and paid to be on it for fricks sake."
I'm a lot, I have ADHD, anxiety, an IQ of 160 and am highly extroverted, but I'm no fool Equifax was trying to retaliate against me for calling them out on their illegal behavior. When the law enforcement people showed up I was confused because I never had any intention of causing fear. I simply explained my political stance that "The reason mass shootings happen is because of the uncaring, tone deaf nature of society especially some corporations." They're response was to send a fed to harass me.
Fuck capital.
The only thing that ever matters is how much wealth you can expend blackmailing the Americun Bar Conspiracy to go attack someone else instead. Iowa 14-0904 (federal appeal decision) says cops only need the verbal claim of any other person, regardless of the legal status of that person.
What if they lie saying they have said warrant?
wouldn't sticking his foot in the doorway constitute illegally entering a dwelling?
LoL of course but they don't give a shit. The fact that they would do that to begin with means they are already prepared to lie.
Probably not since like many rules surrounding things like illegal entry and trespassing, it requires your entire body to cross the threshold at least in Texas. Now trespassing him off your land you might be able to argue if the cops stayed as criminal trespassing.
@@mattiOTX arkansas if someone breaks your window or tries kicking in door in attempt to enter you can shoot through window or door. now if its cops and they identifiy themselves and they have a warrant you cant. also if you open door to someone and then try to close it you cant unless they are trying to force way in or attack you. so cop sticking foot in door and not trying to enter would be a no but someone else sticking foot in door and trying to pry door out of your hands or squeeze in would be yes you can shoot. if cop tried forcing way in without warrant and you do shoot make sure you kill him with 1st shot so he cant testify to what the probable cause was.
but most likely cops will not stick foot in door cause thats a grey area that could get case tossed or grounds for appeal or you grounds for lawsuit and if they do have just cause they gonna wait for back up most likely.
but even if you are justified in shooting a would be intruder you will probably still be arrested and go to trial unless you are in polk county florida then Sheriff Grady Judd will pat you on the back for saving them paper work and having to feed the intruder.
But like video said. just dont open door. talk through doorbell or intercom or ignore them.
Of course but cops have such a high horse nowadays and think they can get away with petty crime (and they do) so they put the foot in anyway.
better call the police then :D in all seriousness, laws are just words not magic.
Don't open the door
I've mentioned this before. Look past the officers shoulder and yell, "Billy! Get away from that police car!" When the cop turns around to look, close the door.
Lmfao
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That’s actually a good idea lol
But cop will then shoot you claiming "Billy" was a threat. No matter there was no Billy, useless bullies with a badge will shoot first then fabricate some lie (or fabricate a Billy) to get out of trouble
Had a cop do this when I was 17. Didn't know any better, so opened the door. They were looking for someone I'd never heard of, I told him he had the wrong house, had lived there 10 years, I know who lives there. He wanted to come in and search. I asked for the warrant, he started threatening me. I started to close the door and told him he can leave now and go get that warrant. He stuck his foot in the door, I said you aren't welcome here, you're trespassing, and then I walked away to the kitchen and started making me a sandwich. When I finished making it, I started munching on it as I walked to the living room. He was standing in the doorway still yapping. I sat on the couch, turned on the TV and kept eating my sandwich ignoring him. I don't know when he left.
Like a boss 😂
Perfect.
You have left out a MASSIVE amount of vital info here dude!
-What kind of sandwich was it?
-Anything on the side? If we've got them, I'll add some chips on the side (or if it's bologna, tater chips go on the sandwich itself). If I'm feeling fancy, pickle spear on the side.
-any liquid refreshments?
He never left... Hes been living in your house
You don't know when he left because you woke up from your dream before you found out.
It's really messed up how placing a foot inside the door isn't automatically trespassing. If anybody else did that, you'd be justified in doing what you could to close the door after telling them that they can't come in.
it is trespassing, and regardless of their station it makes them a home invader
Cops are sovereign citizens
@@cjeldridge8310 woah tough guys settle down or you might find a manslaughter charge be pressed against you.
@@micah7786 Not according to law unless a warning was given. Either verbal or signage. Your front yard is curtilage it is not unreasonable if someone knocks on your door but entering your backyard uninvited is unusual. Cops can knock tell them to leave. Another barrier for unwanted visitors is to build a fence, if someone jumps that fence without cause then that is trespassing, and most judges will agree.
@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 unless there's a locked gate, in which case it is no longer accessible curtilage.
Should be allowed to treat them as a threat for doing this
Best advice I ever recieved:
Treat law enforcement at your door like a vampire. I simply do not open my door to uninvited guests, police or otherwise.
I was arrested and charge for tresspass on my own property ycso sheriff got a DUI and wasn't charged lake Powell
@@oihilguest5902 I was arrested on my front porch once for obstruction of gov operations for asking a police officer if I was being detained or if I was free to leave. When the officer said I wasn't being detained, I turned to go inside and out came the cuffs. That caused me, amongst other things, to buy a legal course of how to move a court and study the court procedures in my state. I no longer face these issues, I've learned how to protect myself. The last time I was harrassed by an officer, I simply defeated him with law. I was asked if I was a lawyer, I said I am not a practicing bar certified attorney. My advice, learn the criminal code in your state as well as the court practices and procedures. Not only will you be a more rounded citizen, you will know how to defend yourself in the legal sphere. Best of luck to you.
@@FullDottle this is great advice and I have no idea why I haven't done this already. I'm not the biggest fan of police, if I am ever unlucky enough to have to deal with them directly, I will never forgive myself if I don't know whether what they're doing is legally defensible.
That is why lots of people now have camera's at their doors, to catch the bad cops lying!
@@Steves_fish Not commiting serious crime is the secret
When I was 5 years old. A cop came to the door to ask for my 2 timing old man. Mother said " not here" the foot came into the door. And repeated the question. Mother firmly placed her foot on his and asked for papers." I don't need" papers all the time looking around her takeing in the house. Mother steped thrugh the door way to the house proper and closed and locked the main door. The cop followed the 3 steps and busted down the second door. He was met with a gallon of scalding water. Mother pleaded selfe defense, no Warrent, and property damage. And won the case hands down. The judge fined the cop, and benched him for 30 days pending the 1950s version of anger manage ment. Thanks
Your mom’s a warrior, she fully home aloned him
How long ago was this tho? I give her props and glad she won. I bet there are ppl out there sitting in prison for very similar situations but didnt have money for a lawyer and or had a bad judge.
Yeah was she white?
@@mikejp9393 1950s...can you not read or do you just choose not to
Now repeat the same thing but with a man instead of a woman.
Too many innocent people have been railroaded into jail, list their jobs, their homes, their belongings. I don’t believe we practice innocent until proven guilty.
Lost not list.
@@cynthiaayers7696 but you knew what she meant so? Are you just that big of a loser?
We don't! In America your guilty until proven innocent
FBI is under the gun so they fabricate a case because the guy in the bodycam video is civil and looks like good slave material for prisons. Terrorists like John Walsh meanwhile allude to how parents will be punished for not handing over their son. The Swamp People make Pinkertons disappear however. Find your way there bruh.
Absolutely. If you get arrested your screwed, regardless of innocence. You have to pay bond, hire a defence, and show up to court, otherwise falsely admit guilt just to get out of jail. You would likely loose your job, and credentials. Is that how innocent people are supposed to be treated.
NEVER OPEN THE DOOR WITHOUT A WARRANT. Never answer questions. Immediately ask them to leave. They will lie to not only you, but the courts when it is just you and them. Do not interact with police without a lawyer.
What I found scary was a situation in Spokane where the police were acting on a warrant, but they got the wrong address. They broke down the door, caused significant property damage while searching the place (slamming furniture into walls hard enough to put holes in walls and damage the furniture, for example), and struck & verbally abused unresisting residents. Then they found out that they raided the wrong house, literally a warrantless home invasion since the warrant in their possession was for a different address, they refused to compensate for any of the damages...heck, it took public shaming via the news to even get an apology out of them. Not sure if there ever was any justice for the homeowner. Its just a scary thought that you can do absolutely nothing wrong and still get screwed over hard by the police...and if you can't afford a good lawyer, you don't even have any recourse other than call up the news stations and hope public outrage forces them to do the right thing.
There’s recourse. It’s just illegal lmao
That is probably actionable. They will assert sovereign immunity but a JURY will likely weigh gross negligence in the balance.
When they took control of the property and severely damaged it, they may have violated the "taken" clause of the 5th Amend.
@@wholeNwon Maybe, maybe not. It's not the same set of circumstances, but look up "Leo Lech" and what happened to him in Colorado. The short version is that courts up to the federal appeals court sided with the police and said they had no obligation to compensate the homeowner for the destruction of his home, and the Supreme Court denied cert.
@@stevepreskitt283 We'll see what happens with the "taken clause" approach that has been allowed to move forward (to my surprise).
@@wholeNwon That was Lech's primary argument. Still denied cert by SCOTUS.
When I worked as an apprentice salesman, I was told NEVER to stick my foot in someone's door to keep it open because I could not only be shot by the homeowner, but charged with a home invasion as well.
Qualified Immunity enables criminal cops.
All cops are criminals by association with the State!
Well, Qualified Immunity is one of several mechanisms that the oligarchs use to keep their terrorist goons out of the traps they set for us. #CopsAreTerrorists
Had a cop do this to me. He didnt like that I closed the door. He then arrested me in my own car the next week. He arrested me for Unauthorized use of motor vehicle without owner's consent. It was my car. And he just changed the VIN. I made a complaint and he just retired. It was his 15th complaint.
@@1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrewSounds like the kind of cop who needs to be jailed for being a prick
This is why the Second Amendment was created.
It's almost like allowing a vampire into your home. I did once and when my Dad simply asked what they wanted the slammed him down and arrested him for obstruction of justice. The charge was wiped because my Dad did nothing wrong but he had to pay a $2.5k bond, $5k to a lawyer & $2k in community service fees. & My Dad was a state trooper for 30 years himself. Some of these young guys are way too excited to hurt people.
Doesn't sound like the charges were wiped if he paid community services fees. He pled guilty, got probation and community service, and got the charge vacated off his record later for good behavior.
@@tommyvincent399 And because he was a former cop.
Young cops ? Excited to hurt people? It’s almost ALL blue!!! Especially the older cops!!!! Stop protecting daddy.
those are the only people who become cops now its sad
Like a vampire… 😂
What an equally accurate & hilarious comparison.
The logic of that judge for admonishing Mr. Barnes behavior as “unacceptable” and “inappropriate” after ruling that it was completely legal, as well as determining what the officer did was illegal, is astonishingly dishonest.
Did the cop get that same admonishment for breaking multiple laws? I bet he didn’t. Instead, the judge blames the victim of police brutality for defending himself. What a piece of work.
This is why I have a metal screen door. It allows me to speak, without giving anybody an opportunity to intrude.
People with new houses are going to hate your tactic
@@kiaayo33 you can always install a screen door
@@xsu-is7vq most people don't own their house so the majority would have to have their landlords to do it
In some old homes in Europe there is a cage just inside the front door so you can let someone in to your home but once they are in they just see locked bars. They can leave but not enter any further until you unlock the gate
@@handsomelarsandhisfabulousjars so many houses in Europe are in fact “trap houses”
We have instructional videos for citizens to help protect us from police. That's exactly what "land of the free" means, right?
Yes we do. We need them. Unfortunately, the constitution isn't taught in school anymore. People need to be informed and taught that they're rights do not come from the Gov't and the government isn't our ruler.
@@Cnote556 that includes police academy.
Considering I've gotten advice about being in Mexico and dealing with police corruption there, which basically said...once you cross the border...buy a sawed off shotgun...if cops pull you over in rural area they will demand a bribe or arrest you and send you to Mexican prison( you think our prisons are bad! 😱)...often the bribe is more than you have, so it was better to shoot them and get back across the border as quick as possible. This was advice given by a Mecican citizen...never went to Mexico.
We may not be perfect here, but by and large we dont have to face that kind of corruption.
The worst thing this country has done was stop teaching people their rights in school.any people get themselves in so much trouble because they cant recognize when they need to shut up. The cops know this and exploit it...the best way to fight back is to spread the knowledge....there is a reason the pen is mightier than the sword. Knowledge is power, the ability to use your knowledge to protect yourself the less likely you are to be harmed. This goes for anything. People dont understand the basics of our legal system and therefore people in power can exploit it to their benefit.
@@debd7631 We are getting that bad. You can find countkess cases of police filing charges against people purely out of spite with no legal basis. There's a recent one where they showed up to the wrong guys house on a domestic dispute call. After they forced entry and after they discovered they had the wrong house, they refused to leave. They even called reinforcements.
Then they charged the man with obstruction. He had to pay those legal fees, win or lose. He could have lost his job. All because the officers knew they were wrong and wanted to punish him anyway.
Oh and if you're black then you can literally be murdered by police for selling cigarettes and they will likely face no penalty.
You say "we may not have the best" trying to downplay the obvious problem that is the American police gang. Actually, in LA nearly 50% of the police force is literally part of a white nationalist gang. Stop simpin' for deputized gang members. It's shameful.
Red white and blue are the colors of freedom until they're flashing behind you.
2:00 is a little terrifying, that the courts literally said, to paraphrase here "What you did was legal, but you shouldn't have invoked your rights"
I wish this comment had thousands of likes.
Cowardice is being programmed into the masses.
The only thing that is terrifying is your lack of common sense. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's wise to do it or that there won't be consequences. It's perfectly legal to tell your employer to f*ck off. But that doesn't prevent him from firing you for it. You have the first amendment right to tell a biker gang member that he's a pansy. But I would not recommend doing that either. Nor should you walk down a dark alley in a bad neighbor even though you wouldn't be breaking a single law by doing so.
Nothing about that is scary. So called "Mr Barns" was running from police and then closed his door. Nobody should ever do that as it only makes you look more suspicious. He shouldnt have done that in the first place.
I am Amazed at how deep some people shove police boot down their throats.
You shouldn't even open the door in the first place.
The assault on Leo for closing the door on his foot is BS charge.
it's called contempt of cop: contempt of cop (bogus, catch-all charges) happens every single day. a corrupt cop's ego is challenged, and you end up shackled and jailed for generic charges like resisting/obstructing/disorderly conduct. all the cop has to do is shout STOP RESISTING while roughing you up, and that's enough for them to jail you.
@@stephenmartinez1 - and hundreds of badges get turned into belt buckles every year because of this. Cops are not omnipotent and must have reasonable cause to do what they do. Sooner or later the officer is going to find themselves in front of a judge trying to explain why he/she did what they did and 9 time out of 10 the officer loses their badge.
@@stephenmartinez1 yeah ??? And when a police officer puts his hands on you, and no crime has been committed. Sue him on a personal level, For Assault and battery.
Police Qualified Immunity has been abolished.
Sue that foo.
Police officers are not your friends.
Never talk to police officers under no conditions, unless your attorney is present.
@@socipathicgaming5914 99/100 nothing happens and if they get fired they just go to work one county over.
@@TheGuruStud - Unless your talking small town good old boy sheriff, your wrong.
You see judges love to smack down bad cops as much as they love to smack down criminals.
The biggest problem with getting these cops booted is 99% of the time you either don't fight the case or you did something stupid during the arrest that throws your bad cop complaint out the window.
Seriously, that is what this guys whole channel is about. Don't act the fool, let the cop make his mistakes and get a good lawyer, than the system will work for you and not against you.
"Don't give the Devil a foothold" is defined clearly right here.
Give them an inch they'll attempt to take a mile.
never open the door, when the cop put his foot in the door, that is an entry, if they don't have a warrant it should be legal to use any means necessary to stop the illegal entry.
Don't forget exigent circumstances also allow legal entry without warrant. I doubt use of force would be considered justified in that situation.
Exactly. Keep the door locked.
@@nic.h Those are few and far between! And the recent SCOTUS decision limited it even further! About the only way they can enter w/o a warrant is in hot pursuit! And even then they must have physically seen the person go into the home! Times they are a changing....thank God!
Even IF the badge wearing clowns put their hand on the door knob and rattle it, to learn if its unlocked should be considered an attempted unlawful entry. the same should be true IF they peer into your home through a window.
@@oldschooldiy3240 do you have a reference to the recent case decisions there, I'd like to have a look? Basically exigent circumstances mainly cover, pursuing someone actively, belief vital evidence is about to be lost, or belief someone is in imminent danger of serious harm or death. Those are the main ones I believe anyway.
It's depressing that we have reached the point that a police officer coming to your door is more dangerous than a stranger.
This happened to me.
My sister made a false police report that I was beating up our mother so that I could get arrested and she could get all of the inheritance.
Cop banged on the door and I made the mistake of opening it.
I told him, I didn’t call you (which I hadn’t).
He shoved his foot in the door and we had a minor verbal tussle.
Luckily my mother came out of the bedroom and told the cop I was her caregiver and that no, I wasn’t beating her, I was her lifesaver.
The cop, sneering, left.
Was your sister prosecuted for making false police call?
Did you sue your sister?
@@checharles5224
I’ve thought about it.
Your comment makes me realize that I’ve got to do it.
Thanks.
Best.
Peace.
@@alexanderchenf1
No.
I wouldn’t have even known how to do that.
My big concern was my (our) mother, but I should’ve investigated that.
She’s since committed multiple acts of fraud against me, and turned my remaining family against me.
So I guess I’d better go ahead and sue, even if just for my own protection.
Thanks.
@@douglasjones2570 just for the peace of mind and for to realise you will not tolerate being messed with. She may try other means to hurt you physically. After it all I’d simply go no contact.
I'm sure you'll learn just how free we aren't once you study all aspects of the law. Knowledge is freedom
According to the SCOTUS it all a matter or the "totality of the circumstances" and how "reasonable" it is, in the opinion of the court. The SCOTUS is NOT the friend of the citizens. They are the pal of the Police. The USA IS a police state. If you don't think so ask them.
And with much wisdom/knowledge comes much sorrow...
I found out just the opposite. All laws are in our favor. We just never hear about them.
@@ExitingBabylon They only sound or seem as though they are in our favor... Clever wording with long winded run on conflicting and contradictory sentences that form loopholes, stonewalling, etc...
Knowledge is power
Morality is freedom
NEVER OPEN THE DOOR TO THE COPS !!!!!!
bingo !!!! no law degree needed 🤣🤣👍🏿
Exactly. Opening the door allows them the opportunity to allegedly “smell marijuana” or make up some other reason to justify probable cause.
I have two lockable doors on my house it frustrates them when they can't open the glass door that we talk through.
forget the rest of the comments , this comment is all that you need to know .
Alex Blaze. Marijuana is legal where I live. They're going to have to come up with something better than that here.
I helped a big dude cop at a carwash fighting off a big irate bad dude, it was crazy, cop was losing as twenty black people watched. I hopped out of my truck and took care of business, saved the cop as the thug had his hands on the the cop's holstered gun and was using as a handle. bad move, I took care of him and we had him cuffed and bloodied in three minutes. as the cop caught his breath, other cops were coming with the sirens and all, I just got in the truck and left. a couple days later the cop saw me and said they were looking me up to thank me... he was so grateful I couldnt believe it. he was so happy with me, and said its all on camera. next i worried I'd be in a lawsuit with the bad dude.... but no
There's a reason everyone was just watching. You chose wrong
Makes me think investing in a steel security door to go between your normal door and the outside of the home may be a good idea. That way you could open your primary door and then talk through the security door without ever needing to open it. Takes away an Officers ability to jam his foot in the door.
Possibly. Or just a good video doorbell, so you could talk through that if you want.
I'm not an expert on home defense, but I understand that in some jurisdictions it's recommended to have a steel gate inside the house that you can retreat behind before you use deadly force against an aggressor.
@@Andrewflusche If you live where a steel grate is necessary to protect you from intruders, whether it is the police or others, you need to move !
Or just a storm door or old fashioned screen door but always keep them latched or locked. Cops seem to think they can open exterior doors with impunity.
@@phyl1283.. it's not the crooks his worried about but the intruding police . Police are not your friends. They are dangerous to your health , especially if you're young. One our 1,000 b l back youths can be expected to be killed by cops. Wake up mate, times have changed and it's the rule of the tyrannical police kakistocracy and it's members dressed in clown costumes. IMAO :) G'day from Australia mate.
In Rissia they just cut the walls around the door frame.
Happened to me once for a complaint of a fight nearby my home. After the door closed onto the foot they went psycho. Didn’t arrest me for assault for closing door BUT the pigs stalked me constantly after that. Driving by home constantly slowly, parking nearby, several frivolous traffic stops on me in the neighborhood. Had to move. Best bet is not opening door.
What you do is get the cop's home address and drive by a few times with a 25K lumen spotlight. Let him know that you also know where he lives....the harassment will stop immediately. I've had to do this and it worked like a charm.
@@MrEkzoticwell played. They all have names & addresses too.
One of the reasons I spend $120 on a steel bars/mesh security door on the outside. I can open the front door for a breeze or to see who is outside but they still can't get in.
@@MrEkzotic that's a brilliant idea
Put a size-matched sheet of steel about 3/8 inch thick on the inside face of your door. When he sticks his foot in the door, slam it as hard as you can with lock engaged. That will teach the cop to not do this harassment again, expecially to that same foot.
Yep, I sat in my house and played video games loudly while the cops sat out in the driveway for around 2 hours, he kept pounding on the door, making threats; this was early 90s, no camera phone.
After a long time he finally gave up; he really underestimated how long I can play games.
Ask, tell, make. Pepperspray is reasonable force in this regards. Or have a secondary zone you can retreat to and secure, use a door chain that will hold a door with a foot jammed in it to delay their pursuit, and retreat to the next safe zone in the house. If you don't have one, make one. Get a door cage. Or better yet, put up a big old fence and keep it shut and use an intercom. Never make yourself accessible to people who would want to pester you.
The best police incident we had...2 of our friends had property with a few acres they lived on , plain clothes DEA agents went on to their property at night...they had security cameras everywhere...our friends held them at gun point , in the cold wet dirt , until the police came to rescue the agents...of course they did not even have ANY reason to be on their property to begin with...
Could they be charged for that? Hope not
Haha
@@davidmuller1958 why would they be charged for protection their property?
@@guest_5992 because fuck you that’s why. Try to bankrupt you with lawyer fees before the case can wind down. As the saying goes, you can beat the charge but you can’t beat the ride. Granted, it all depends on what jurisdiction you are in on how far malicious prosecution can go.
@@davidmuller1958 or they can kill them and make the bodies vanish!
The very notion that we have to allow our rights to be violated and ''sort it out later'' has the Founders rolling in their graves. Once your rights have been violated they can't be unviolated. MAYBE you can get some form of compensation, after years in court, but you will still be forever violated. The ONLY time to assert your rights is in the moment. Otherwise, by definition, we have no rights.
Exactly!!!!!!
This is why the Second Amendment is there to guarantee you your rights. It's your responsibility to defend your own rights
@@christopherpakney8542 Someone calls saying you are beating your wife. That is a total fabrication, but you refuse to talk to the police. Your wife is out of town. The police have probable cause, and don't need a warrant. You shoot the police as an intruder.
Sounds messed up to me.
@@jonasgreen8260 Havimlng your freedom taken on heresy is messed up. Being treated as guilty, with NO evidence is messed up. Licking your oppressors boots, also messed up. Preservation of your rights and dignity...Priceless
@@jonasgreen8260 A swatting attempt is NOT probable cause. Showing up to barge your way into someone's house because a random person called is not enforcing the law.
The foot stuck in the door is also an attempt to setup an "assaulting a police officer" if you really try to shut the door with their foot in the door.
Depends on the state to some degree. I would argue though that if the officer did not have a valid warrant at that moment they are attempting to make an illegal search and had illegally entered the house.
Don't even answer the door
It always amazes me how the justice system will bend over so far it's head is up it's backside to defend brutality -by the police-. But when a citizen takes reasonable measures to terminate a conversation and closes the door suddenly it's a terrible offense and you better hope we don't fill you with led.
Closing the door is, and in the event the police officer puts his foot in the door no, slamming it is not reasonable, they are not aggressors at that point, and you are literally trying to cause harm. This applies to a citizen just as it does to police. You would need to articulate some reason why battery is justified to prevent what a reasonable person would view as an imminent threat. Say the person at your door has a ski mask on and a crowbar (generic almost cartoon depiction of a robber), say the person is giving you verbal or physical threats, say the person is a known ex lover/stalker who is known to get violent, say they are Jehoash witness (this one's a joke). All of those are articulable reasons why you could justify that battery.
@@LegDayLas bullshit, putting your foot in the frame is an attempt to force the person to open the door so you can get in
@@LegDayLas if someone wants to slam their door closed shut, I hope nobody has their foot their in the way cop or not you earned a broken foot playing with ppl property.
@@luistorres6956 And doing so intentionally earns you a felony charge. Get over it.
@@LegDayLas I understand the state is god and savior to many bootlickers. Just saying ppl get what they earn not what they deserve.
funny how in none of these cases, the officer who lacks reasonable suspicion/probable cause to enter the property or detain the individual is never charged with kidnapping & trespassing.
Pig privilege
???
In the first case, the guy was running away from an arrest, there was reason, even if the officer did infringe on the law, and as far as I'm concerned, the court made a propper judgement. And on the second one, do you really consider the sticking of an officers foot in your door trespassing? There's just little information known about the case, the court however, did accept his arest as lawful, and this shouldn't be without reason.
@@johannfischerteixeira2968 no more than trying to slam your own door is assualt?
I'd still figure it was trespassing though.
Can you imagine if you did that to you neighbor? Refused to leave your door frame til you talked to them? I would feel threatened.
@@reddermIt depends on the insistence of the other party, the fact that the othe party was the police in this particular situation is what complicates everything. I'm going by the presuposition that after the cop appeared, the person tried to close the door before they concluded their conversation, which is very suspicious, so the cop put his foot on the door. The person then proceeded to slam the door on the cop's feet in order to stop him, which is even more suspicious.
Imagine that the cop had just received a call about a case of child abuse? There definetly are unlawful cops out there, but I still can't help but think that people are a tad too neurotic about this. In the end, I believe that the reaction recommended by the lawyer in the video was the most commendable one.
If it was indeed a case of child abuse, even if "breaking" a lot of laws, having saved the life of a kid, the cop would be praised as hero. If he was using of his power for selfish reasons, like getting revenge, extorting money, or something like that, then a lot of people would come out and say that most if not all cops are like that, and ask for the police to be defunded.
In reality things are a lot grayer than people would like.
There's an architectural solution: many 1920's Spanish homes have an opening peep door with an iron cage over it. Allows face to face conversation while keeping the door safely locked and dead-bolted. To end the convo, just close the peep door. The iron cage prevents anyone outside from reaching in to stop the peep door from closing.
Then the bad cops would stick their fingers into the peep door opening...better to have a hard screen they can't get past with the door on the inside!
It’s 2024, there are multiple, cheap intercom doorbell cameras systems such as “ring” that allow you to do that and have the additional benefit of the cop not knowing if you are home or speaking to him remotely. Using a peep door lets them know you are home which could be a problem too.
I have no idea what a rl warrant looks like. Are they allowed to show you a fake?
Incredibly disappointing to hear this. Just saw a video of officers harrasing a man every night at 3am with a knock on his door. He finally opened it to tell them to buzz off but they put their foot in the door. He asked them 20 times to remove their foot from the door but the officer refused. Then as soon as the door lightly touches his boot the officers yanked the man out of his home, assaulted him, then arrested him.
That's terrorism on your own people
Why not get one of those chain things that only allow the door to open a couple of inches? Sure, they're not very strong, but it seems to me it would be BREAKING and entering if they forced their way in.
@@Arthur-tn5zp You could also get a gun and defend your home with the same force they are threatening your life with. Crazy I know right?
@@BenJover Do you enjoy attending your own closed-casket funeral? Because that's usually how you end up attending your own closed-casket funeral.
@@nukepuke932 Do you ask the same of them? Maybe you should so they have it in their little brains as a possibility lmao
Most front doors open in. I had two cops come to my door without a warrant. They said they were on an "Alarm call" and just wanted to "Make sure I was ok". Unfortunately I opened the door to them. One of them put his foot in my door so I couldn't close it. I put my foot on my side of the door so they couldn't come in. It turned out that they wanted to see my ID. I refused and told them to go away. They didn't like that, but I held my ground and they finally left. Lesson learned, don't open the door for the police.
Why doors in USA opens in? That is a fire hazard since in panic you'd want to get out ASAP. That's why all doors in most EU countries opens outside to the front door so you have fastest and easiest way out.
Why do you have an alarm if you don't want police coming to your home?
@@rudyschwab7709 I don't have an alarm. Never have had one.
@Megative well, for one, a door opening outwards means hinges are on the outside. It's much easier to break in if that's the case.
But really, it depends. Apparently (Google search) hurricane prone areas in the US may have outward opening doors. Some cite inward opening doors to protect from being trapped in by snow, but Denmark, Norway, and Sweden (which recieve significant amounts of snow) open outward
Some places have inward opening doors so you can open the door for airflow while leaving the screen door closed.
Also, in the US, while most home doors open inward, business doors open outwards for fire risk, like you mentioned
If they were on an alarm call and you act awkward like a buglar may (and yes, burglars have answered doors to police and I think it make for hilarious videos) then you give them a reason to enter and detain you. Instead ask them what alarm call and have them confirm the address and reason over the radio if you're unsure. All they are looking for on an alarm call is to reasonably confirm you're supposed to be there and no one has an emergency, this is the whole reason people pay for alarms...
It's crazy how we need instructional videos on how to defend ourselves from harmful criminals and videos to defend us from Cops. What a world we live in we're everyone is out to get you.
Oh make no mistake: Law Enforcement agencies are the biggest criminal enterprises operating within the United States.
Every society on earth has had criminal elements. There's just no way to keep crime from EVER happening. Petty goons mugging people, vandalizing property, etc is all plenty bad enough, but the REALLY dangerous criminals are the ones that get to operate with impunity and have a massive team of apologists and interference runners all working behind the scenes to make it close to impossible to ever hold them accountable (i.e. the cops)
Only the cops are actually out to get you. The percentage of psychopaths in blue is higher than that in the criminal population. Criminals just want money or something they can sell.
Cops want to abuse you to compensate for their deficiencies.
There is a video in Colombia, a robber got off the bike and he robbed a woman in the garage of her house when she was opening the door to get in. As the man tried to get to the bike in the street, she was yelling for help, and a driver hit him and he fell on the engine, then the car stopped and fell to the street, and the car ran him over and 2 tires went over his chest. And cops were laughing while watching that outcome.
Search for video "Off-Duty Cop Stops Gunman Targeting School Children in Brazil"
Have you noticed there are 100 videos on people being attacked by cops and how to defend yourself against cops to every 1 video on attacks by criminals and how to defend yourself against them??? Aaand. . . welcome once again to the Police State of America.
No. That would be forcing entry into your home.
I've seen cases IN Virginia where the officer was charged with unlawful entry for trying that stunt. And in two separate cases in Front Royal VA, the police officers involved were shot,and one killed by entering a home without probable cause nor a warrant. In the second case, the officer survived but was charged with unlawful entry of an occupied structure. So it is NOT advisable for an officer in Virginia to even do so much as stuck his foot in the door. Once a body part crossed threshold HE was in the wrong. Not the homeowner.
I think I remember those cases. I was a long time resident of Front Royal then. I think in the both cases all said and done, they up and moved away and out of Virginia altogether for fear of possible retaliation. Cops don't take kindly to be shot at, even if legitimately and especially if off scot-free for any reason let alone if one is killed. I'd be running too
@@chrismc410 I lived on Virginia Ave. Behind the 7-11. In one case I think you are right. But it was a contributing factor to the entire town council, mayor, and the Warren county sheriff getting voted out. Police chief fired, and a few other changes. Beyond that it's still the same place it's always been. I moved back to Warrenton. Both cases were early 2000s. The Vietnam vet was cleared completely, and the others guy was tried but exonerated because the VA state police ended up with the investigation. Which is what should happen anytime there is an allegation of police misconduct. An outside agency should investigate it rather than internal IA investigating.
@@stevenbaker8184 I was on Blue Ridge Ave and later N. Royal Ave back then. Literally walking distance from the then-Warren County Jail, before the Regional Jail was built
Im surprised the homeowner was not convicted
_"Once a body part crossed threshold [...]"_
... it's a Forth Amendment violation (in the US).
NEVER open your door, they can hear you just fine...
Fuck em if they can’t.
Or have a screen door you can talk through without opening. Then you can close your main door without striking the cop.
Who cares if they can or not? Don't even talk to them.
Can only talk yourself into arrest, not out of
Use those thingies where you can talk through a screen
It will never cease to amaze me that police can do anything they want to us while being paid officers of the law, but we have to be absolute angels to avoid prosecution.
Well That’s a Lie but Heart’s Fairly in The Right Place
@@ComfortsSpecter you're right, instead of saying that we citizens must be absolute angels to avoid prosecution, i should have said, to avoid being beat and shot by police extrajudicially.
@@sheepwshotguns42 “Uhuh Totally”
@@ComfortsSpecter im sure if you just comply you'll be totally fine
watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
@@sheepwshotguns42That’s a massive exaggeration, if you’re polite and cooperative it is exceedingly rare to encounter what you said. People just want to act like monkeys and expect no consequences
Should be mandatory classes from public school through high school on your constitutional rights. But they don't really want you to know.
there IS a class like that, it's called civics. you just skipped it or cheated
@@citricdemon I was working full time at 16 so I missed it, BUT is that elected? even so, I think it needs to be taught year after year, not just one class.
@BIGREDDOG09 why tf did you feel qualified to say what schools should teach when you didn't even go? get your education up.. ignorance is embarrassing
@@citricdemon I'm self taught, and clearly the ignorance is coming from you at this point.
@BIGREDDOG09 you're self taught, but you were wrong? so like. you obviously taught yourself wrong? how can you be so gloopy?
Years ago I had the police show up at my door and I answered the door (I know, this was pre-RUclips so I didn't have the benefit of your videos!) and they presented me with a warrant to search the premises. I later saw that the warrant was not signed by a judge, and when I then went to a lawyer with this he said it didn't matter since I allowed them in voluntarily. Sure seems like that would be "voluntary" under false pretenses, but it didn't seem to matter. This was in Nebraska, BTW. Anyway - like you always say, just don't answer the door for police if you're not expecting them!
You have a right to see the warrant and sometimes the supporting affidavit. Evidence obtained with a clearly defective warrant would likely be suppressed this is esp. true if you pointed out the defect to the searching police. They will then likely try to assert an exception defense. DO NOT interfere with the search just take notes about what they say, do, etc. and the fact that you have directed them to leave your domicile. IF they ask any questions, just assert your 5th amed. right and shut up.
Not a lawyer, but I would’ve tried suing since you were tricked into thinking it was a real warrant.
@@MC2738 true, pretty sure that's classified as a type of "false report" or falsifying a legal document.
you had a shitty lawyer. A warrant without a signature of a sitting judge, isn't valid. It would be viewed as a forgery. A judge would have a field day with the officers. Any charges, or evidence would get immediatly thrown out. Your lawsuit would pay, pay, pay.
I've had the police show up at my door at 3 am in the morning looking for the owner of a specific car. I was able to direct them to the proper house. What they didn't know is that I answered the door armed and then hid my firearm while talking with them. People pose as the police and there are bad cops out there. Being prepared is key.
Me too. And don't fall for the "I'm taking your gun while we talk for my saftery" bullshit. You should NEVER give up your second, just because an officer is a coward.
That’s the only way to answer the door
Ummmm...., bully for you I guess?
In florida you get shot doing that. RIP Roger Fortson
@@graham1996 That was murder. Do Not Hire this man. Deputy Eddie Duran.
In PA, the laws don't matter. Most of the lower court judges are dirty and don't care about the law. The public defenders aren't qualified enough to file documents much less defend you and unless you want to sit in jail for two to three years waiting for your appeal to have the case thrown out, you are completely screwed.
No law says you must answer the door, cops or not. I lived in a sketch apartment building back in the day. My neighbors were a-holes and always in trouble with the law.
I learned one can ignore pounding at the door. Without a warrant they cannot do a thing. And my neighbors would frequently use my address or other apts addresses so the cops would get it wrong so often....I just began to ignore they were at the door.
It's sad that there are such widespread problems with law enforcement that you can't even cooperate with an investigation without risking legal jeopardy even if you're innocent.
That's because the cops don't care who they arrest, they just need to fill their quotas.
its sad that people think things that happen maybe 1% of the time happens ALL the time when the encounter police.
@@spin-rg9ib, writes _"its sad that people think things that happen maybe 1% of the time happens ALL the time when the encounter police."_
Research the _Reid Technique,_ this stuff in endemic.
There aren’t. Stop watching CNN.
When the f will people realize we live in a police state? If you think this country is free, just wait until they hit your house....
A few years ago, my niece was visiting me from out of town, and I had some friends over for board games. It was a saturday afternoon and a police officer came to my house and she was asking if "there had been anything strange going on" in the neighborhood. I stepped outside and spoke to her. It wasn't until I started watching these videos that I realized that in the course of "casual conversation", she had subtly investigated why there was a young woman (at the time 15) seen at a house with several adult men. It was clear that we were literally playing board games and eating burgers, which I readily provided that information. The officer departed, apparently satisfied with what she learned, but I think back and I am surprised how easily I just offered her the information. I will be much more careful about this in the future.
Somethin’ strange in the neighborhood.
Who you gonna call?
Not the cops. Not if you’re smart.
Think the other way around
A police officer sees a young girl with several adult men, checking if the girl is in danger and maybe not there out of her own free will does seem to me a responsible , intteligent and dare i say professional way way of executing her duties .
@Subprime Porcupine
Which quota?
@@thodan467 Quota on charges per interaction, I presume. They have them for DUIs. Why not for other crimes?
what was harmful about sharing the truth? Maybe someone thought they saw something (a female in danger) and thought they better say something to be safe. Sounds like the interaction was fine, not sure why you are hesitant about bragging about a family cookout
I work with a lot of attorneys, all civil stuff, never criminal... I find most to be omni-directional goofballs on a learning curve, trying to understand what I already know. I tell them what to do for me, and how. I outgrow them too quickly. Good attorneys are worth two three times the money, as the average schmuck lawyer that roams the streets looking for something, knows next to nothing. law schools dont teach what you think they teach. lawyers are self-made or they're nothing, like a professor, only a few really understand what they spew.
As awesome as this advice is, video evidence shows that they will violate your rights at will with little to no accountability.
source: I made it the fuck up
@@fresh_dood your privilege is showing.
@@BanduTheGreat least ad hominem argument on youtube
@@fresh_dood tell me you're trying to sound intelligent without being intelligent. Look up the statistics of complaints against police departments. Just because you've never experienced or witnessed it personally, does not mean it's not happening. This channel would not be successful or necessary if violations of civil rights weren't occurring. As to why you've decided to make my statement your personal crusade to contradict, I don't know. But rather than denying and deflecting, do the research yourself. Start with the thousands of cases documented on RUclips and then compare statistics. It's simple.
@@BanduTheGreat no, you make a claim, you provide specific examples. why this is hard for so many griffons on the internet is beyond me.
but thanks for a response that goes beyond a personal attack, at least
When I was young, I drove fast, flashy cars, like Mustang GTs and GTOs. On several occasions, I got stopped and ticketed for driving well over the speed limit, even though I was driving UNDER the limit. Cops get off on ticketing kids with hot cars. On two occasions, I decided to go to court and the cops lied under oath and, of course, the judge took their word over mine, even though I was an Eagle Scout, an honor student, and later, a college grad with a good job. I finally gave up and started driving non-descript bland cars and the harassment stopped. At 82, and a decorated veteran and retired successful businessman, I still have no use for the police. They soured me long ago.
I got the same thing. In several different states.
Thank You for your service Sir. God Bless You
Would a dashcam nowadays with definitive proof change that?
Guess what happens when police are rewarded by the number of cases they win...
@@ethang8334 yes. Dashcams are the best thing you can have on a car. Especially ones with built in GPS speedometers
One key point that was left out when looking at the warrant be sure to see the date. "Out of date" warrants are not valid.
An arrest warrant is different than a search Warrant.
@@bohemoth1 correct but show me any warrant that does require the signature and be dated by a judge. Different rules for different local jurisdictions.
It also has to describe WHAT is being searched for, and generally WHERE they can search. FROM WHAT I'VE READ for example, they can't search inside locked furniture, safes, etc. unless the warrant specifically covers them and you are also not required to unlock items if the warrant doesn't cover it.
However, that information is from about 20 years ago and it's possible court rulings have changed the search rules/laws.
It's may even be the case they can't force you to unlock ANYTHING to facilitate their search...similarly to the rulings that the police can't force you to unlock your cellphone/mobile as it amounts to self-incrimination...so they have to ask Apple or another party to crack your phone's security.
Then at that point asking apple to unlock it is abusive of state power. The state can’t violate your rights by mandating a 3rd party do it. That’s like the government violating the 3rd amendment by having mercenaries instead of soldiers crash there
Why is your property still not treated like your home?
You should be able to go outside as long as you are on your on property with the same protections and if you tell them to leave that should mean not just the home (if you let them in) but the bounding box of your property.
This is why I tell people to get a ring or nest door camera. Uniformed Cops came to my door, no warrant, looking for someone who had same name as me ( my name is common). They knocked and I answered on camera and they asked if I could step outside to talk about out standing warrant. I had none so I asked what it was about. They literally said they didn’t know what it was just that my name popped up and if I could come outside. I said no thank you and glad I did because my BIL (who is a cop) told me they would have taken me in just to investigate. Never open door for cops you didn’t call yourself
Uh... no. Because Amazon owns Ring, and they currently give all audio and video recorded by Ring devices to law enforcement without a warrant. In some cases, they've even turned on the device on when the police asked, essentially letting them bug your house without a warrant.
@@windwalker5765 that's terrible and why I'm happy I use nest which doesn't do that.
Correction: never call the cops on yourself. It will only end badly for you.
What about a peephole?
Better solution is to get your own wireless camera/mic and set it up.
This is just ridiculous. Officers getting away with this behavior is no different then me throwing myself in front of a moving car and claiming that they struck me.
which was how my uncle made his living.
Besides the CCTV security cameras I have surrounding my house, I have also placed a sign next to the front walk to my house that states "Law Enforcement: Your implied license to conduct a 'knock and talk' at this address has been revoked permanently. Signed the Owner"
And besides the sign and cameras I will never open the door to the police. They can either show up with a warrant or leave. I have NO RESPECT for law enforcement anymore. And I am a retired police officer!
Mr big nuts
A policy I think everyone should adopt.
I understand. The overreach is expanding. This guy's not even answering the question,
Wow!
@@harrydupuis3102
Yes!
The intent - was not to slam the foot! His foot wasn't there until the act of closing the door was already taking place. The officer knew the door was being close, thereby placing his foot in harms way on purpose!
Remember Cops are like Vampires , they can only come in if you
invite them in then once they’re inside they will ruin your life !!! Lol 😂
Same could be said for my ex wife.
Lol...🥰
10-40% of police violate ur rights. Wouldnt put it past 1 or 2 bad cops to just enter ur home when ur door is open and the rest simple shrug"cant arrest my fellow cop, cause that bad"
Should I remove my welcome Mat,its setting me up for a Vampire to just walk in isn't it
Or they will wait to you come out and destroy your life.
As a teenager, I once had two detectives come to my door.
I open the door, thinking they were salesman and told them I wasn’t interested and went to close the door when one of the officers stuck his foot in the door to stop it.
Then they began to question me if I knew a certain person, and showed me a photograph, which I did not I never saw them again, but it was very strange that they just shove their foot in the door.
But I later realized that they use the photograph to get my finger print
Because I looked like someone they were looking for
Mistaken identity
Did they identify themselves as police? if you slam the door on his foot, you might be responsible for civil damages but not the criminal charge of assaulting a police officer. Of course, I don't go around slamming doors on peoples' feet, just to avoid a lawsuit.
In the same vein, if they ID themselves as police, and began the interview by sticking a foot in my door, I will politely reply that I have nothing to say until I have consulted with legal counsel.
Keep it cool. Remember, they have guns.
@@baraxor
They never had a chance to identify themselves
Before I was closing the door.
The foot was first
Then the said they were not here to sell anything they were detectives, and they wish to ask some questions about a missing person.
That's some sneaky shit.
@@Helpfulsuggestions Were they police detectives, or private eyes?
@@seanschroeder1067 that's what he thinks so don't make yourself think his ideas are facts ok
Well done. Things rarely work out for people who “cooperate” by talking.
Things you say can and will be used against you in the court of law....not for you
It's the cop's duty to arrest and throw people in jail, and likewise, to find reasons to do so. They have no duty to be fair and impartial--that's what the courts are for. The more you tell them, the more rope you give them to hang (arrest) you with, even if you're completely innocent.
@@trucid2 I agree they use everything against you. I don't agree that they have no duty to be fair. I think a better formulation would be they have no duty to cut someone a break, but they do have a duty to follow the law.
@@j.d.-alawyerexplains5064 Following the law and being fair are two very different things.
@@trucid2 I agree. And sometimes following the law means being unfair. For example, some states have "must arrest" laws regarding domestic violence. If a man raises his hand to block his partner's slap, and in so doing leaves a bruise on the woman's arm, following the law might require an arrest because of an injury. In the Pepito case in Utah there is evidence that the couple were both striking one another, which should have led to at least one arrest, but neither wanted the other arrested and "being fair" mean the cops walked away. An error, or an error only in hindsight? I believe Dickens wrote a statement something to the effect of "it that's what the law requires, then the law is an ass." Sometimes, the law is definitely an ass.
Unfortunately they are trespassing the moment they trespass the threshold of your front door.
I've personally had this exact situation happen to me. Went to visit my dad on a Saturday, we were going to go out to lunch. When I arrived he wasn't quite ready. He said there was a Western on TV the night before that he hadn't seen in a long time and he stayed up to watch it. So he slept in a bit. I told him no problem, take his time and we can leave for lunch when he was ready. While he was in the shower there was a knock at the door. When I opened the door there were three cops standing on the porch. They immediately asked by name for my father without explaining why they were there and as to why they wanted to speak to him. I asked them what this was pertaining to and they said it was regarding a matter that didn't involve me. I said I'm aware of that, but if they were asking to speak to my father, my dad was going to want to know why they were there? Again they said I didn't need to know. I said if they were there selling tickets to a police fundraiser that my dad would surely not be interested and that I wasn't going to bother him. They finally said it was pertaining to a matter regarding my dad and mom the night before (They were separated). When I went to close the door as to relay their request to speak to my father. One of the cops stuck his foot in the door, preventing me from closing it. That didn't sit well with me. I turned around as to face the cop and told him that I was going to close the door, that if he didn't want to lose his foot. I strongly suggested he remove it. In which he did. I closed the door and walked down the hallway to my father's bedroom. He had just gotten out of the shower and I told him the police were at the door asking to speak to him. He said he had gone out to dinner the night before with my mom and they got into an argument and she threatened she was going to call the police. My dad said he thought she was just blowing steam in the heat of the moment but apparently she did. My dad said no problem, just tell the police that he just got out of the shower and as soon as he was dressed he would be out to speak with them. As I stepped out of my dad's bedroom, back into the hallway. There I found myself staring down the barrels of three guns. All three cops had entered the house, weapons drawn and told me I was under arrest. I asked what for? They said threatening a police officer. They stretched me suggesting he remove his foot or lose it as a "Threat". They called a patty wagon and took me down to whatever precinct they were out of, booked me and released me with a court date. Was total B.S. and a waste of time. When the court date came, had to take the day off work, lost wages. Drove to the city, had to pay for parking. Then sat in court for hours until my case was called. The judge picked up the case fold, opened it, skim read it for a few seconds and closed the folder. Then picked up his gavel and slammed it down stating case dismissed. The judge never asked me a question. He knew it was a wrongful arrest and dismissed it. So word to the wise, when the police are by your house. Lock the doors and don't open them.
Wow, that sounds like a lot of detail for something that happened so quick. Are you sure it happened the way you're telling it, or are you just trying to stir up drama?
In other words, while it COULD have happened that way, it sounds more like a Creepy Pasta Urban Legend to me.
@@nunyabisness8760 Again, if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. Play an idiot, you get treated like one.
@kiillabytez if you've done nothing wrong they might try really hard to find something or make something up. Nothing happens to them when false charges are dismissed! They know exactly how to jam people up and what they have to embellish to do it.
@@Internal_Investigation Talk is cheap. Show me the money.
I had cameras (with microphone and audio) installed on my home after a series of package thefts and car vandalisms in my area. They are great. I can watch them via an app in real time on my phone from work. They are always on, but begin recording the moment motion is detected. Point is, cops can't put their foot in your door if you don't open the door. You can talk to them, or not, through the microphone, which is very loud. Which also negates their claim "We can't hear you unless you open the door."
Maybe you haven't seen the viral videos all over the Web - of cops obstructing and removing homeowners surveillance cameras. Common tactic for cops 'swatting' or serving warrants to 'disable private property cameras' first. Many 'interior cameras' have been disabled upon forced entry. It's very common - the police state doesn't like transparency and accountability. Law enforcement institution has become extremely militarized and unreasonably secretive.
Cop: We just wanna talk
Buddy (speaking thru the door): How many of you are out there?
Cop: Just 2 of us
Buddy: Good, talk with each other then.
😂😂😂
Great idea, I think I will install some cams! Thanks.
Cops have a habit of destroying external cameras, so make sure at least one is out of reach of children with guns.
I have cameras installed in my house after a series of home invasions BY POLICE officers. I've told their commanding officers I'm eager to sue them, and it stopped... weird, huh?
The permission to openly LIE to citizens is for me a huge issue. And citizens are not allowed to lie back to them. If a cop comes to my door and says something, why should I not be allowed to state, "oh, so you're saying that there was a call or complaint. Tell me more about this alleged complaint." In other words, simply repeat whatever nonsense they are telling you. Start with, "oh so you're saying ..."
Who cares lost hope my fellow Americans don't care about rights
If they give you an order, just comply no matter how much in the wrong you feel they are being. Take them to court if they are. No sense in getting charges added to your case.
I think they are allowed to lie for investigation purposes. Undercover work comes to mind. Traffic enforcement, such as saying they clocked you for speeding and asking how fast were you going, trying to get you to admit to speeding. Or telling a criminal his friend is ratting him out, so what actually happened? Another reason people are seperated when questioning, so they don't know what the other person really said. The issue I have is when cops don't know laws and lie about it, such as being detained and probable cause to search.
@@connor3288 It's a cat and mouse game. It's their job to prove your guilt. It's your job to prove your innocence.
"Just the facts, ma'am."
You know what gets me? People who read the first sentence of a law and think they know the law, but don't really have comprehension of what they read. It's not the law's fault, though they are worded strangely for the most part, but the one spewing malice while not providing an example, only screaming "You don't know your own laws" just makes me want to slap the spit from their mouths.
@@connor3288 If you can quote the law the way a Preacher can quote bible verse, I might actually believe you when you say you know the law, but screaming at someone that they don't know law, is childish in any verbal exchange.
Love the tie. It is Mississippi state colors where did you get it?
Can you put foot into a police car when they are refusing to identify(their policy as a public servant)? Can you charge them with assault when they exit the vehicle and attack you?
1 - No. You have no lawful reason to enter their car or damage it in any way even if they are violating their department policy by refusing to identify. 2 - Yes, if it turns out their 'attack' was unlawful, which you will have to prove in court. But to use the complete scenario here - if you 'put your foot into the police car' because they declined to identify themselves to your satisfaction, then regardless of whether or not they have such a policy they can place you under arrest for kicking their car, and you will not be able to 'charge them with assault' for their having arrested you.
The best advice anyone can follow for police misconduct is...be calm, remain civil, let them take whatever action they are going to take, and then complain/sue them after the fact. Only if you truly believe they are going to kill you should you resort to a life and death type reaction. And I mean truly believe they are about to kill you - not just 'I can make up an argument that they were going to'. Because at the end of the day, if you're wrong you will catch a charge for whatever you did to resist them; and even if you are right, you could end up dead trying to fight with them. Better to live, and get rich, than be right and be dead, yes?
@@Mythryl12--I agree. But why are they above the law, by Breaking the Plane of the front door("I was concerned for my safety, that an unwanted intrusion of my castle, might result in injuries to me. He has many weapons. I was scared! That's why I responded to the threat by slamming MY door on his foot, AFTER warning").
HOWEVER, in one of The Battousai cases(not Turner vs Driver, but I can't find This video), the judge ruled that the possibly illegal searches of Battousai's car while he was being detained, was OK because while searching INSIDE the vehicle(glove box, under seats, etc), the cop still had ONE foot on the ground Outside the vehicle. The rest of him was Inside the vehicle. How does that Not break the plane, while engaging in the Plain View Doctrine?
@@ronmcmartin4513 They aren't 'above the law'. The law is applied the same to everyone in the same circumstances. Law enforcement officers are by definition often in different circumstances because their duties require them to take actions that a person without their training and authority would not be allowed to take. So that is why some times an officer can do a thing that a person who is not a sworn peace officer cannot do.
As to the specifics of your case or any other case...that's the problem; it depends on the exact specifics. For instance, it's not enough to just say that you were 'concerned for your safety' because he had his foot in the door. You would have to explain exactly how that made you concerned, and it would have to establish a fear that any reasonable person would have in the same circumstances; and each incident like this must be considered case by case. I'm not familiar with the other case you are citing; we could discuss that if you like, but keep in mind that even judges are human and make mistakes, and often their decisions are later overruled. Only when a decision reaches the Supreme Court is it 'final'...and even then, sometimes a later Supreme Court can change that decision.
@@Mythryl12--Thanks for the reply. Cops seem to be the only Sovereign Citizens('Laws don't apply to us').
"You would have to explain exactly how that made you concerned [for your safety]"
The same way a cop explains that a 1A auditor's Camera taking video from a "reasonable" distance, per the SCOTUS ruling, is "Scary". Cops just explain to Internal Affairs('We investigated ourselves, and found No wrongdoing')
Who is more dangerous? The auditor with a phone/camera(which some cops mistakenly see as a Bazooka/RPG), or some cop who can't tell the difference between their Gun & their Taser(Daunte Wright) ruclips.net/video/gXWvS9GYcfA/видео.html
@@Mythryl12 by the time it becomes life and death it's too late. Just use police best practices; shoot the pig first, ask questions later
That exact thing happened to me when a constable tried to serve a warrant on my new GF that wasn't home. I got beat up on my porch, tazed, and his wife jumped out of their truck and pepper sprayed me. I got charged with assault on a public servant and sentenced to a year probation. My neighbors that witnessed it wouldn't testify in my defense because they were afraid of what this jersey would do. A few years later him and his wife were sent to prison for defrauding the county out of hundreds of thousands on their expense reports.
Find someone in general population to talk with him
Names? Otherwise this sounds like a fake ass reddit post. If they were arrested, their names are public info. Share it so we know who the bastards are.
If true, try to get your conviction overturned. Shouldn't be too hard.
Had a couple cops come to my door once. I had been inside all day. They knocked, I saw the blue / red lights through the window. So I turned on the door cam, asked them "something I can do for you". They acted like they couldn't hear me. I waited, finally they knocked on the door again. " I said. I know you can hear me. I can literally hear my own voice coming back through the mic. I am not coming to do the door. Is there something I can help you with". Finally one of them spoke "Yes hello, I'm officer so and so, we were responding to a call about a bla bla bla, we just wanted to ask you a few questions". He said "can I ask your name first of all?". I said, "you can but I won't share it. If you were here looking for me you would already know my name and I do not wish to be involved in whatever situation is going on. The last thing I need is my name in a police report for a situation I'm not involved in." He was obviously getting irritated by this point he said something like "we are just trying to do our job and you are not helping". I said "Exactly. I really do appreciate whatever it is you are working on but I can't help you. I don't know anything about any situation that could involve the police, I didn't see anything, hear anything, or know anything that could interest whatever you are investigating and if you are looking for someone its not me. So please feel free not to waste any more time on here.". He said something like "thank for your time" and they turned around to leave. About 1/2 way back down my path he said "what a jerk". To which I responded over the intercom. "I can still hear you". They literally started walking twice as fast lol.
This literally never happened.
@@nukepuke932 You literally never existed.
@@nukepuke932 You say that with such certainty. I've seen dozens of videos of that exact scenario.
@@nukepuke932 You right. Its not like any informed citizen with a $50 door cam ever had a succinct interaction with police.
The sad reality is that I know the police wanted me to come outside and that whatever their reason for that it wouldn't be good for me. For all I know they were investigating a neighbor nearby and told their partner to make sure they saw them talking to me. Then they have a brief conversation with me on the porch and go back to their suspect to say "that guy saw you do it" whatever "it" is. Now I'm in the suspects crosshairs as a potential witness. Maybe they call their friends and make sure I never make it to court when I never even said I saw anything. Just another pawn for police who don't care if I live or die.
Maybe they just want to get my ID. Cops seems to walk ID like its crack. They arrest hundreds every day for refusing to give them ID despite the fact that refusing to give it to them is literally a constitutional right. If I go outside they have much more control over the situation to try and force me to hand over my papers. If I don't go to the door, they can't even be sure I am even home, they certainly can't force their way into my house without a warrant or serious legal consequences if they do it anyway.
I get it, they are investigating something, and they want all the information they can get. But I was honest when I said I didn't have any information for them. I hadn't seen or hear anything that might be related to any crimes and I didn't want my name appearing in any police reports than literally anyone can pull a copy of.
Worse for all I know someone was murdered. My name goes in a report. A couple years later maybe I am living somewhere else and someone is murdered. The police come and question me again, put my name in a report. They can't find who did it but they see that my name appeared in connection with another murder years ago. With no other suspects they bring me in for further questioning.
They ask me some questions, twist my answers, finally seeing what they are doing I demand a lawyer. Now they are more convinced than every that I am guilty. Why would an innocent man need a lawyer they claim. The next thing I know I'm on trial for two murders of people I never knew based entirely on circumstantial evidence (which people are convicted on every day). And all I did was my civic duty of answering the door and answering question for the police who are "just there to protect me after all". Ye right.
If you don't think these situtations actually exist then you are living in a fantasy world. Go to any prison and talk to the inmates. If you don't believe their stories then pull their case files. A shocking number of current inmates are convicted on exactly this type of circumstantial evidence based on police interactions that they thought were trivial at the time. But they live in a bad neighborhood and their name keeps getting into police reports despite no direct connection to any crimes and before long they are a suspect in everything that happens around them.
Police only care about getting an arrest. That is how they get promotions and raises. DAs only care about getting convictions, thats how they stay in office. Public defenders only care about getting their paycheck. They have already failed as lawyers, thats why they are public defenders, so winning or losing doesn't really matter to them. None of them care about justice. The best we can do is stay out of their world as much as possible.
@@nukepuke932thanks for your opinion, Officer.
In simpler terms simply don’t answer the door. Trust me if they have a warrant they’re not even gonna knock.
i want to add my two cents to this in a situation i had with law enforcement and a police report... no matter what you do, they can lie all day long on reports, statements, etc... my situation, i was in bed with covid, the officer came to house and i did not answer door, etc... i have an attorney that i use for situations that has always taught me to not speak to police without attorney present... on the police report, the police officer stated that he could hear people inside talking and could hear the phrase "he's outside". completely fabricated statement... however the goal of the police is to make everything suspicious, etc.... he left a card which i forwarded the info to my attorney who contacted him and told him he could meet at attorney office and we would be happy to hear what he wants to say, but other than that i am using the 5th. on the police report, the officer lied and said i nor my attorney ever made contact with him...
That's why cameras have been great...
They are showing more and more the dishonesty.
And most of the time, it's just cops egos or laziness they are lying for
The Supreme Court has ruled that the police can lie!
@@ralphquinteros7564 but You Can't lie to them!
@John Wortham silence is better than lying.
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, whether it's true or not.
Although I think, as long as you don't provide them with a false identity.
If you aren't legally obligated to provide the information, don't.
I don't see how lying about something that's none of their business in the first place matters.
Cop.
What are you doing out at this time of night?
Me.
Whatever I want.
Cop.
Where are you coming from?
Me.
Down yonder.
Cop.
Where are you headed?
Me.
Through the woods to mothers' house, I go.
Cop.
Well, do you know that this is a well-known drug area?
Me.
What does that gotta do with me?
Cop.
Given the time of night and the area, I think that maybe you're out here trying to score.
Me.
I don't care what you think.
Cop.
Really, how about I take a look in your vehicle!?
Me.
How about no! I don't consent to a search of my vehicle!
Cop.
You are making me think that you are hiding something.
Me.
Silence.
Cop.
If you don't have anything to hide, why not let me take a look?
Me.
Silence.
Cop.
This is your last chance to tell me if you have anything in the car that I should know about.
Me.
Silence.
Cop.
Fine, I'm going to get a dog down here, and you better hop he doesn't find anything.
Me.
DO I SMELL BACON? BACON BACON BACON, I LOVE BACON!
1 Eternity later.
Cop.
Get outta here, and don't let me catch you on this side of town again!
Me.
See you next Friday, porky.
Pigs hate me, but I don't care because my mama loves me.
@@logansilva8017 I believe the SC has ruled that you can't just remain silent but must invoke the 5th Amendment. At which point you can remain silent from then on unless, or until, a judge demands you answer questions. AT which point I would invoke the "Clinton Ploy:" Which is to preface every answer with "To the best of my memory" or "I don't recall that!"
Andrew defended me on a speeding ticket a year or so ago, great guy, walked me through every step, and end result was all charges dropped. Couldn't ask for more. If you live in VA and are in the Fredericksburg area, Andrew is your guy for legal advice.
You hired a lawyer for a speeding ticket. 😆
Did you speed?
@@chrisjohannes179 you must have never been pulled over by VSP
@@Esper320 what he meant was the lawyer probably cost more than just paying the ticket.
@oenr it doesn't lmao. You get no points on your record on top of it.
In CDA Idaho a man shut his front door and a female officer put her foot in it, then her partner put his shoulder against it.
The judge ruled that when the female officer put her foot across the threshold of the mans house, she violated his fourth amendment rights. All charges were dropped.
But the LEO's faced absolutely no consequences otherwise, I presume? I'm sure that pained them greatly! SMH!
the cops should have been charged.
@@cuzz63 Under the presumption that they were told to leave and did not do so, they should have been shot, then charged for the 4th violation.
No warrant?! Get of my curtilage!!! You are now trespassing.
I have a security door with a deadbolt, and had a cop try multiple times (like over a dozen) try to jiggle the knob as he was both knocking and ringing the bell. And when I answered, all he wanted was to ask me if I knew the drunk guy on my sidewalk. I didn’t, but it was a weird conversation at 3 in the morning. But I was a young home owner and didn’t know I could just not answer. That’s at least something… Thx
Kind of hard for me to agree with the law enforcement while sitting on a jury hearing a cop willfully put their foot in the way of danger. They would loose all credibility from me at that moment.
cop would say the defendant attacked him and stomped his foot.
You have to have a lot of money just to get to that point where you are in front of a jury. Most people can't afford it.
@@ronblack7870 This is why bodycameras are good for everybody involved. It makes it harder for anybody to lie about what happened.,
Lose*
The cops are a very scary thing. One time I called them to make a police report because this woman was leaving threats on my old phone and my new phone. My old phone that still had credit left. My new phone that I was going to keep because it was a government granted phone. I showed him the threats on both phones. And he quickly turned it around on me and kept asking why I had 2 phones. Even though I had already explained why.
Pig wanted to hit an easy quota to buy more donuts.
Civil Forfeiture dollar signs started falling in front of his eyes. “Two Phones!” Let’s take their house car and phones and make them prove they are not used to sell drugs!”
@@pmc1727 lol. I had 2 phones because I had my old phone that still had credit. And I had my new phone because it was a go granted phone, which was the one I was planning on keeping and using.
Is it illegal to own two phones, officer? *while recording audio ON one of those phones*
@@Nalianna Yeah. That would have been a good idea.
It's a shame that a few bad apples in law enforcement have made it where you feel unsafe just simply opening your door to talk to them. There was a time where if a police officer came to your home you'd invite them in, offer them something to drink, and calmly and casually talk them (provided you did nothing wrong).
When the laws make criminals out of the innocent, there's something wrong with the laws.
This is great advice. I remember one time in Seattle when I called the police for a noise complaint about a garage band a block away after 10 PM and a squad rolled up to my door and asked me to step outside. I had consumed a couple cocktails and for some reason decided they were after me at that time, so I politely refused to step outside, but remained cordial and said I would be happy to answer any questions they had from inside my house, They then left and the music stopped; I got lucky, but will remember your video and my luck, thanks!
They were probably just annoyed that they had to do some actual work. The cops there are so underfunded in terms of actual officers that very little gets a response, even if you've got the suspect on camera breaking the law, you might not get a response if the prosecutors don't care about the crime.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade so underfunded they pay every single on of their officers administrative leave even when being investigated for murder, right? Something almost no other agency does. Maybe they aren't underfunded. Maybe they're money goes to the wrong shit. Food for thought.
When I was 18 years old, me and my girl friend had an argument and a neighbor called the cops on us. When they showed up, I opened the door, saw it was the cops and immediately slammed the door in their faces. I've seen the cops in Houston put their feet in doors and in some cases snatch people outside of a home because the persons body was an inch or two over the threshold of the door. They tried to get me to open the door and come outside so they could just talk😒 to me. They gave up after I told them we were going to pop some popcorn and watch a movie. Now I won't even open the door or speak to them through it.
why the FUCK do people call the COPS on somebody having an argument!? do they know how many people have died from not knowing the cops were there!?
you got lucky, me and my wife got into an argument, neighbor called the cops, they showed up banging on the door, when I told them through the door we don't need them, they said they call a call for possible domestic abuse and I could open the door, or they'd kick it down and arrest me for resisting a lawful search. I opened the door, they then detained me, while asking where my wife was, she was in bed naked laying ontop of the sheets (It's was Summer, its Texas, and our AC wasn't working properly so it was still hot inside the house at 10pm) when an officer burst into our bedroom, mind you from the argument to when the cops actually arrived was 40 minutes. During this time our dog which was in a kennel was growling and barking, and the asshole cop drew his gun on my dog and told me to calm it down or he'd put it down because a locked kennel appearantly isn't good enough. I was able to calm the dog down though. The cop that went into the bedroom woke my wife and insisted on hearing what happened, while shes trying to quickly cover up. This is how it usually goes, and we are white.
@@candle86 They cannot come into your home if there's no probable cause or a warrant. If she is saying that she is Ok and nobody saw a crime taking place they simply can't kick a door in. They threatened to come into my apartment and the office offered the key. They quickly told them it was illegal. The cops will lie and tell you whatever works and it isn't against the law for them to do it. Yelling and screaming in your home is not illegal.
@@billywilliams4183 Considering their excuse of domestic violence, that is one of the causes they can use without a warrant, they know it, I know it. They where comming in, and I had no recourse.
@@candle86 There is no crime unless they have witnesses or have a call from the complaint. If so then you would have been arrested.
They need to have real consequences imposed upon them for intolerable actions, whether or not the state is on board.
Put some spikes down there. That will stop them 👍💪
Preventing me from securing my door is defacto arrest.
I made a decision to exit my home from a different door when I got "the knock". There were about forty law enforcement vehicles in the road. So I grabbed my deed and ID before locking myself out of my house and saying "Good morning! Can I help you?"
I had no idea why they targeted my house. It turns out they had a warrant to search a similar address that no longer existed, because I asked to see the warrant and pointed out that they were at the wrong address. The head honcho persisted and asked if he could search my property "as a courtesy". I refused. A neighbor who saw the commotion drove up and eventually was allowed to explain that the subject property had burned down and reverted to the county for back taxes. The reason they were there with K-9 units and every sheriff's vehicle imaginable was to look for a huge piece of construction equipment that would never have fit in a house. And it turned out that the rental company had made a mistake. The rental had been properly returned three years earlier. So, I could have had the sheriffs department break into my home and put me in danger for no lawful reason. Exiting my home was the smartest action at that time. We've since moved to a much more secure property that is in a corporate trust. That was a legal mistake too close to the danger zone for my tastes.
They would have completely destroyed your home and everything you own while doing their search, and they are not responsible for any cleanups or repairs.
@@coop5329 They also likely would have broken down the door in close proximity to when they actually knocked and announced themselves.
I do think that the police should be responsible for damage they've done, at least in cases where there isn't a conviction resulting from their search. But, politicians would rather saddle a few with the large expense than have to justify raising taxes to cover the damage the cops do.
You cannot win in these situations. The only question is how much is it going to cost you and your family to be left alone if you’ve done nothing wrong.
K9 units to look for heavy equipment???
A bunch of cops to look for heavy equipment??? Cops came to my place once. 22 officers all wearing brand new body armor and carrying AR 15's. They had a brand new duce and a half truck and a bunch of other accessories. They were there on a false tip. I asked the agent in charge if they were using this for a traing exercise and he confessed it was. They lose funding if they don't use their gear. It's one of the reasons they send too many cops. K9 units when they're not needed etc.
@CAUTIOUS1 It could have been training. Later, I found out that the person who owned the property did have a construction business, AND they had been in prison before that. So I think they may have thought he was dangerous or they may have been fishing for a possible drug crime. With everything they brought that day, I thought it was a shakedown.
So treat the police like vampires: don't invite them in.
The difference between police and vampires is that a vampire will always respect your right to refuse entry. The police might or might not.
I feel this was missing the most likely situation: we had "a call" or received "a complaint" and need to verify everyone in the home is safe. I've seen that on countless videos and it basically seems to give them cart blanche to enter and search due to "exigent circumstances". And once they are in they won't leave until THEY are satisfied.
Why not mention the obvious way of getting them out of your house unsatisfied? It would be a great learning lesson for the next cop thinking about infringing rights.
you do know calls are recorded and it would be very easy to verify if a cop was lying about that... this is a dumb comment.
@@samueljimenez7420- you do know cops lie about calls, right?
@@rockysquirrel4776 I am a cop and it is possible to lie about a call. But it is also very easy to prove a lie. Secondly, despite what your tik tok says, we hate lying, corrupt, criminal cops probably more than you do. Close down your social media, turn off your phone and welcome to the real world.
If you don’t open your door, they must break in. Period. Even if you are speaking through the door, that’s a big bridge for the to cross, with consequences they must work hard to avoid. Don’t open the door! Not even answering works too, but if they truly perceive some beef with you, they’ll get to you unless you yourself really work. Whether you completely avoid or work to defuse/appease us a judgment call.
Never open the door, they will come in if they have warrant.
If he put his feet intentionally to the harms way, it should be his own problem.
Officer should know it will hurt unless he takes the feet out.
Always demand to see the warrant, check the name and address and what the warrant let the officers do.
2 officers tried to enter my place, claiming they heard I had a gun. I asked them if I was being placed under arrest and they said no, as long as I let them in. I refused and they said they could arrest me and get a warrant to search my place after or I could let them search and they'll leave once they confirmed. So I told them there wasn't anything illegal in my place and I asked them, Is that how it works and they said yes...so I said,"oh, then I chose option 2...I'll grab my coat, contact my lawyer to meet me at the station and you can go get your warrant"...They changed their minds, so when I said this conversation is over, good bye and tried to close the door, one of the officers decided to place his foot between the door. I asked him to remove his foot, but he wouldn't respond, so I yelled at him, to ensure people around could hear that I clearly told him to remove his foot from my doorway, but he just yelled back, "No!". I smiled and said this is bullshit and told him this incident is being recorded on video and that I was calling my attorney. My attorney asked them over my phone, for their Pin number and name and told them, by preventing me from shutting my door, they were unlawfully detaining me....they didn't give him either, but just said, we're just leaving and walked away. Moral of the story; get video surveillance around your home and always try and record any interactions with police officers. Whether or not they're the good or corrupt once; it deters most of them from doing stupid things.
So why are you not allowed to possess a gun? Are you a convicted criminal or something?
@@rudyschwab7709 Really?
@@Eccentric_Charlie Valid question. Unless this is not in USA, why would the police care if someone owns a gun?
@@_trismegistus yeah, in the US it would be 50/50 odds.
ROTFLMAO I agree with "Don't talk to the police!" idea, however, we've all seen the videos where the cops say they have a warrant on record, they just don't have a "hard copy" with them!
Yeah, YOU have a warrant on record, but I don't. I'll let you in when I get my copy of the document.
NOT LEGAL..
THEY MUST HAVE THE WARRANT IN POSESSION, NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Depending on the type of warrant they may not need to have a copy on hand. They can effect arrest on some warrants (such as a felony arrest warrant for a specific individual) upon seeing said individual and based upon their knowledge that the warrant is valid regardless of whether or not they have any of the paperwork in hand.
@diane Taylor I would LOVE to see them "kick in" my door (opens the wrong way for that) and if they try pulling the hinges... They will find I cut the heads off the pins, and reinserted them... They are gonna be there a while! - And if they do make it inside...My Dogs will attack them, and I will be shooting the "intruders" - So I say, Good Luck!
Yea, ill wait in here, you guys wait somewhere off my property and we can start over when you get your hard copy.
Locked screen door or glass storm door. Comfortably open your front door and keep a door barrier between you and the visitor. It's that simple.
Metal screen door bars.
you truly believe they won't break it down or cut through a mesh screen ?? 😂
@@originalSiiiN no but if they do that without a warrant, they've made it clear that they're okay with the ramifications of criminal trespassing.
@@Izbiski_ you think Police think logically or rationally ?? 🤣
@@originalSiiiN No, but legally they've made a statement of accepting the consequences. They'll have to argue ignorance or probable cause while talking out of both sides of their mouths. They've tacitly accepted it, and if the police taught me anything, tacit admittance is enough to charge and shoot for.
Cops did that to me as I was shutting the door. I trapped his foot with the door and held it. Still insisting they state their business. When they had no business, they need to leave
I'm glad you are telling people these tips. I've been in some of the circumstances you discuss in your videos. Sometimes people get put in these situations by mistake and it is still just as important to protect your own rights even when you didn't break the law or they will trample them.
In other words, unless you can prove your innocence, you’re always guilty.
You're only guilty if you've done something wrong. If not, quit being a crybaby.
Generally the police can assume you are guilty or assume you are innocent.. it is the courts that will assume innocence until guilt is proven. People make the mistake that police have to make the assumption of innocence.. they do not.. they have to make judgment calls based on real time interactions and/or complaints filed. It is their job, if they believe you are guilty, to seek you arrest so that the case may be passed to the courts to determine innocence or guilt.
@@kiillabytez when they are looking for someone or something, you might match that description. So just don't answer the door so you don't need to go through the hassle of proving your innocence.
@@hellboy19991 I once fit the description of a killer in Washington state. A cop even showed me the wanted poster. Even the hair was spot on. After talking with me, we both laughed about it and I got a copy of the poster to show all my friends. It was pretty cool.
@@kiillabytez that's one of the stories of all time.
There is no good reason to answer the police when they are coming to you. Lawyer lawyer lawyer. Silence is key
If they say they have a warrant, wouldn't it be better just to stay in hiding like you didn't know he was at the door?
This is the amazing advantage of ring doorbell cameras
Thank goodness technology is evolving to the point where just about any of us can afford them. We just need to get into the habit of looking before we leap.