Got mine today! All the reviews on the Bathys are spot on I have seen to date! The best sounding Bluetooth Headphones I have heard and wit the wired options it sure does make a lot of sense to only have to own this one do it all pair!
I have a Focal Utopia and several other high end phones but also a Sony WXM4 for my one Bluetooth option, is it worth spending this kind of money for another BT pair? Would I only expect marginal differences or will this sound as energetic and loud as a true amp-driven high-end headphone? The anemic volume and energy as always been what I hated most about BT headphones less so than compressed audio.
@@mikeg2491 On my iPhone via bluetooth connection only, I can not listen to the headphones past the 3/4 of full volume as it is very loud and would damage ears badly with certain Genre's of music. I have played them at full volume on more laid back songs but I can not do it for long. I must say I know what your saying as the loudest IEM's I have tried with Blue tooth can not match the 3/4 volume of the Bathys via Bluetooth connection. And of course this is the same with the 3.5mm connection and DAC option as in those two configurations you are running more like a set of wired.
@@stevel4329 thank you! And yea don’t worry I don’t intend to ruin my hearing but what I love about the utopia and other high-end headphones is that rumble you get in a deep bass song that just feels cavernous and real, yet to find a BT headphone that can replicate that.
@@mikeg2491 LOL< no not worried about your hearing! You do you! I love loud music more than I should probably and at the highest volume on certain tracks it hurts. As far as the bass response I probably had the bassiest in ears in the past with the Devialet Gemini, the bass was excellent but was a little fake to my liking. I do like the bass on the Liberty Pro 3's. Even then these do not do what the Bathys does. All the reviews I have seen have been pretty accurate I must say. They say these are more like the Celestee cans from Focal and if thats the truth and I am looking for another over ear I will save up for the Stelia then. They are supposed to be wonderful. But the bass on the Bathys I find the best for wireless, certainly better than Bose, Sony, Dali, etc... as I find them all recessed, but hard to say if what I like is what you like. There is a sub bass that is clear and smooth and I find it is not over powering. The fact you can EQ on the app does not hurt for the Bluetooth option either.
@@stevel4329 thanks for the feedback, the fact you sound like you’ve trialed a lot of headphones makes me want to consider getting it. I like my Sony BT but they are a bit muddy in their sound signature sometimes.
@@DIsmayedConfuse I have the H95's from B&O. For me the Bathy's are a bit better than than the H95's. I wish Focal added atmos for the bathy's for gaming but otherwise I like them better than the H95's.
@@DIsmayedConfuse you’re very welcome DIsmayedConfused. One more thing the bathys are lighter and more comfortable than the h95’s. Good luck on your next purchase😊👍🏾
I'm surprised you got a review pair already. My first foray into audiophile listening pleasure begins tomorrow when my Celestee arrives. Then we'll see if I also need a Blutooth pair. Thank you for the review.
I own the Celestee and ifi go blu and it's fantastic. I imagine the Celestee will sound better than Bathys but you will gain the capability of no cables.
@@aceofspades6667 Ok, here's my little quick review of the Celestee... Compared to my Bose 700's that I've been using for the last 4 years - the Celestee's sound incredible! But I told myself if they weren't perfect I was going to return them. So for me... they're not perfect because of the stock cable. It's way too stiff and have too much memory and I'm not going to spend another 150 for a decent cable. So it looks like the Bathys will be for me. I like the price better and I think the sound will be good enough for me.
@@MarkDavidBlack curious did you compare sound quality using Dac mode via usb cable to Bt? I have plenty of cables so that won’t concern me too much. I like my stock Celestee and og clear cables
Mine is on its way…to south of the Equator. The Bathys are more stylish than my current Beyerdynamic Amiron Wireless…but now to wait to see if it sounds better or not.
Hello, I heard the Bathys a few days ago. Sound convincing, but the KH is permanently silent noise - whether music is played or not. It is enough when it is on. Even with quiet music, the noise is still perceptible and distracting in the long term. In Transparency mode, the noise is significantly stronger. With my current Sennheiser Momentum 3 or my older Bose QC35II I can also hear a slight noise in silence, but at the latest when music is played (also very quiet), then no noise is audible to me. Is the noise normal?
Hmm, I’m looking for exactly this headphone but with a balanced cable input. I had my Grado 325s converted by you to balanced with black dragon cables and it’s a night and day difference. If this gave me the option to have Bluetooth and balanced, I’d get it in a second. I think it would be the perfect partner to the AK KANN Max.
it is new reality... tried today EQ-ed my bose QCE II and meze rai penta+fiio utws5 ,both easy outperformed focal bathys in details and clarity. even bose has far better ANC vs bathys. they both sounds tone similar to my focal stellia...stellia ,of course another class in every way and home use. but i have on road and trips my new mini 'stellias' bose QCE II and rai penta. bathys collecting dust now at home. maybe for watching tv movies will be ok. This may help:
What does 35 hours battery life in jack mode mean? Why would battery life have anything to do with jack mode and why would it be LESS than in Bluetooth dac mode?
Great review. I have been able to use my Bathys with my Sony NW Z507 though. It picks it up as a USB storage device but my volume controle on the player works fine and the USB DAC mode seems to work?
Unfortunately we do not at this time, but you can purchase an Apple CCK adapter (only available through Apple directly) to use our Dragon Cables with the Bathys if you want.
I just picked up the Bathy's last week, after watching this great review & several others. I definitely am impressed with the sound & quality build, using them with my FiiO 11 LTD DAP. A question, on the Black Dragon/Silver Dragon cable, would I notice that much of a difference from the stock wire? Also, would I notice more of a difference between my DAP and phone (Pixel 7 Pro)? New sub by the way!
We find there to be a big improvement when using our Black Dragon and Silver Dragon cable over the stock wire. We recommend the Black Dragon with the Bathys! You'll notice a larger change upgrading from your phone to a DAP, but the cable also makes a noticeable improvement.
Ticks so many boxes but leaving out Ldac seems like a poor decision for a headphone targeted at audiophiles. After multiple years of codec advancements, it still has the highest bit rate of any bt codec. This would be the perfect companion to my Sony wm-1am2 at work if it had it.
Yea it is an oversight for sure, if they think that bluetooth codecs all sound the same why bother entering the high end market period why not make a cheaper headphone in the 300 dollar market, audiophiles hate bluetooth to begin with but at least ldac is closer to cd quality. The USB connection seems like a gimmick, who cares, if I am stationary I will be plugged in to an actual amp and using real headphones not a usb dac on a headphone.
Hi there! Here are the 2 Dragon Cables we recommend for the Focal Bathys. Black Dragon Portable Headphone Cable: www.moon-audio.com/black-dragon-iem-sennheiser-momentum-headphone-cable-v1.html Silver Dragon USB Cable: www.moon-audio.com/silver-dragon-usb-cable.html
Clear, punchy bass but it's not a basshead headphone in it's standard turning. Using the Focal Naim app you can EQ the bass louder though to really get that slam when listening.
Is an upgrade cable justified for this headphone since you can’t use it in a truly passive mode? it must be on meaning both ANC and I assume DSP are operating in 3.5 wired mode. I tried wiring to my Chord mojo 2 and thought the sound improved and the mojo was controlling the volume but apparently this isn’t possible and i’m imagining the sound improvement.
We find the upgrade cable to make a big difference overall! While there is not a true passive mode, you can bypass the DAC in the Earcup with one of your own which can make the headphone sound even better. The Chord Mojo 2 is a better DAC and will improve your audio quality quite a bit. You aren't imagining it! The ANC stays on, but the other features are bypassed when using an analog cable. DSP (i.e. DIgital Signal processing) is not used when listening via the 3.5mm output of your Mojo 2 as that is an analog signal and not a digital one. This also means you can control your volume with the Mojo 2!
Is it true they lack the ability to function as a wired headphone with an iphone?? Also, is it worth getting the black dragon cable to connect it to an iPhone adapter plug?
They can work as a wired headphone with any source that has a 3.5mm analog output, and yes, we feel the Black Dragon Portable Cable works very well with this headphone and the iPhone adapter! 🙂
@@moon-audio Hi I have the Bathys and tried wiring it with my chord mojo 2 and thought the sound improved. But sharing in a fb group I was told it’s not possible because the Bathys are always on and processing the signal so you can’t alter it with an external amp/dac and I assume an upgrade cable. It’s true there’s no truly passive mode. So what do you think about this? The fact there’s no true passive mode?
Just got B&W PX S2 in Europe for 420 usd, and yet fully satisfied. It has amazing sound and my favourite at the moment. Easily beats my Sony XM3, AT DSR7 and other few models. This price range is OK for BT, for 600-700 range I can get Ananda or Meze Pro. Cheers
It's called the "Focal & Naim" app. You can find links to both Apple and Android versions in our review here: www.moon-audio.com/focal-bathys-wireless-headphone-review
Bathys are tuned to be more Radiance than Celestee or Clear. Which I love, but it’s not for everyone. Honestly the radiance are better, but genuinely If I’m not sitting down and focusing deeply on the music I can hardly tell the difference, the Bathy get within 95-98% of the SQ of the Radiance and that’s freaking insane. Pretty much my endgame closed back for the foreseeable future. At home I have my LCD-5 and Utopia if I want a more refined listening experience so for now I’m perfectly happy with the Bathys
You can find the apps here! 🙂 Google Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.naimaudio.naim.std Apple App Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/naim/id381694252 We also have an app walkthrough on our review page: www.moon-audio.com/focal-bathys-wireless-headphone-review
Thank you very much for presenting the Focal Bathys early. As I really love the sound of Focal closed back headphones, I´m really tempted. For now my convenience headphones on the go are the Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 4, which I prefer soundwise over the Sony XM5. Here is my question: What is the difference between the Sennheiser MW4 when using the USB-C connection for listening compared to the Bathys? And does the Bathys also charge simultaneously?
We are also quite happy with the Momentum Wireless 4, but we do find that the Bathys has the better sound of the two. It has a more punchy bass and clearer mids that really impressed us in our testing! The Bathys can charge in "On" and "Off" modes but not in USB DAC mode.
How much of an upgrade would it be over the B&W pxS2, which ive bought for 199.99 black friday, would upgrade be worth it. Debating if should return them even though i got at great price, would hate to find out its only slight upgrade
Received my Bathys today in the UK, comfort is not the greatest, App is not easy to navigate at the start and takes some getting used to, Sound is excellent but bass is a bit boomy, build quality could have been better for the price. My Final UX3000 felt premium in terms of feel and comfort
my wallet said no to the bathys, so i ended with a xm5... and it has a plug to fit in my xperia..and i learned the bathys can t be used if it is turned off.
@@toddasher6112 Todd, as long as a cable is well-shielded it will sound the same as others. All this cable stuff is to prey on people that don't know better. There is a reason these companies don't like 3rd parties doing A/B tests on their cables.
Why do you guys have such a bad reputation for supposedly scamming people on Reddit? Someone from your company needs to respond to these allegations or people like me will be swayed away from purchasing from you. You guys seem legitimate but it's quite a bit of posts. Thanks for the review 👍
@@robwilkins72 Hey you hippo Focal doesn't have the best reputation with it's customers you can look that up anywhere. As far as to why they have stuff coming in is because they are an audio equipment dealer and not a very good one at that if you have to fend for them. I'll go back headfi gearspace and reddit forums that know way more about about anything than u would
@@jcap8391 lol hippo? keep it classy over there at reddit. I'll tell my 11yo nephew to hit you up for some kewl memes. a couple threads on reddit hardly makes a company illegitimate. its the walmart of forums.
@@anthonydiviolla1944 You must not be able to read anymore boomer. I also said headfi and gearspace also mentioned bad experiences with focal and moon audio
@@harackmw I mean u get USB DAC mode. APTX lossless is pretty useless, LDAC is still king but you do lose out on the latency using LDAC over APTX adaptive. Bluetooth is always filled with compromises
Mark Levinson 5909. Even better sound and better production quality. “When a call comes in you press Bluetooth button” - why???? Why can’t this dumb phone just take a call without me having tp do anything? Comparing this to Sony and Bose and Senn’s stupidest line momentum (senn makes amazing stuff not this line ain’t it) is just silly.
These rather overrated, overhyped headphones were clearly tuned to a very specific sound, and unfortunately it is a veiled, dull sound. It's weird, it sounds airy and at the same time veiled. If you don't know the price of these, and you listen to them blind, you would think these are much cheaper. But hey it looks and feels expensive.
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Got mine today! All the reviews on the Bathys are spot on I have seen to date! The best sounding Bluetooth Headphones I have heard and wit the wired options it sure does make a lot of sense to only have to own this one do it all pair!
I have a Focal Utopia and several other high end phones but also a Sony WXM4 for my one Bluetooth option, is it worth spending this kind of money for another BT pair? Would I only expect marginal differences or will this sound as energetic and loud as a true amp-driven high-end headphone? The anemic volume and energy as always been what I hated most about BT headphones less so than compressed audio.
@@mikeg2491 On my iPhone via bluetooth connection only, I can not listen to the headphones past the 3/4 of full volume as it is very loud and would damage ears badly with certain Genre's of music. I have played them at full volume on more laid back songs but I can not do it for long. I must say I know what your saying as the loudest IEM's I have tried with Blue tooth can not match the 3/4 volume of the Bathys via Bluetooth connection. And of course this is the same with the 3.5mm connection and DAC option as in those two configurations you are running more like a set of wired.
@@stevel4329 thank you! And yea don’t worry I don’t intend to ruin my hearing but what I love about the utopia and other high-end headphones is that rumble you get in a deep bass song that just feels cavernous and real, yet to find a BT headphone that can replicate that.
@@mikeg2491 LOL< no not worried about your hearing! You do you! I love loud music more than I should probably and at the highest volume on certain tracks it hurts. As far as the bass response I probably had the bassiest in ears in the past with the Devialet Gemini, the bass was excellent but was a little fake to my liking. I do like the bass on the Liberty Pro 3's. Even then these do not do what the Bathys does. All the reviews I have seen have been pretty accurate I must say. They say these are more like the Celestee cans from Focal and if thats the truth and I am looking for another over ear I will save up for the Stelia then. They are supposed to be wonderful. But the bass on the Bathys I find the best for wireless, certainly better than Bose, Sony, Dali, etc... as I find them all recessed, but hard to say if what I like is what you like. There is a sub bass that is clear and smooth and I find it is not over powering. The fact you can EQ on the app does not hurt for the Bluetooth option either.
@@stevel4329 thanks for the feedback, the fact you sound like you’ve trialed a lot of headphones makes me want to consider getting it. I like my Sony BT but they are a bit muddy in their sound signature sometimes.
I picked up mine on Tuesday Nov 1st. Love them. I have been on the B&O bandwagon for a while now. Focal Bathys rock!!
Which B&O headphones do you own? How does the sound compare?
@@DIsmayedConfuse I have the H95's from B&O. For me the Bathy's are a bit better than than the H95's. I wish Focal added atmos for the bathy's for gaming but otherwise I like them better than the H95's.
@@andrehunter8137 Thank you. Now I just need a comparison to the Bowers & Wilkins PX8's. Seems that whatever I get will be an upgrade to my B&W PX7's.
@@DIsmayedConfuse you’re very welcome DIsmayedConfused. One more thing the bathys are lighter and more comfortable than the h95’s. Good luck on your next purchase😊👍🏾
I'm surprised you got a review pair already. My first foray into audiophile listening pleasure begins tomorrow when my Celestee arrives. Then we'll see if I also need a Blutooth pair. Thank you for the review.
Thanks for watching, Mark!
I own the Celestee and ifi go blu and it's fantastic. I imagine the Celestee will sound better than Bathys but you will gain the capability of no cables.
@@aceofspades6667 Ok, here's my little quick review of the Celestee... Compared to my Bose 700's that I've been using for the last 4 years - the Celestee's sound incredible! But I told myself if they weren't perfect I was going to return them. So for me... they're not perfect because of the stock cable. It's way too stiff and have too much memory and I'm not going to spend another 150 for a decent cable. So it looks like the Bathys will be for me. I like the price better and I think the sound will be good enough for me.
@@MarkDavidBlack curious did you compare sound quality using Dac mode via usb cable to Bt? I have plenty of cables so that won’t concern me too much. I like my stock Celestee and og clear cables
@@aceofspades6667 I won't be able to compare until I have a Bathys in my hands.
Thanks so much much for a great review Moon Audio, I've just subscribed 😀
Hopefully they are available in Australia really soon, cheers David
Thanks for watching and subscribing, David! 🙂
Not bad. But, does BT one worth this price tag?
Mine is on its way…to south of the Equator. The Bathys are more stylish than my current Beyerdynamic Amiron Wireless…but now to wait to see if it sounds better or not.
Love to hear Focal!
Thank you!! I'm waiting for the price to go down before i get a pair 👈🏾 I have the xm3's.
Can they be used for gaming and with a amp/dac I have for my Audeze headphones
2:52 I think you meant the OG Clear. Clear Mg's dome is pure magnesium. 👍
Looks nice! Next on my want list 📝
Another Excellent Review !!!!!!!
Hello, I heard the Bathys a few days ago. Sound convincing, but the KH is permanently silent noise - whether music is played or not. It is enough when it is on. Even with quiet music, the noise is still perceptible and distracting in the long term. In Transparency mode, the noise is significantly stronger. With my current Sennheiser Momentum 3 or my older Bose QC35II I can also hear a slight noise in silence, but at the latest when music is played (also very quiet), then no noise is audible to me.
Is the noise normal?
Hmm, I’m looking for exactly this headphone but with a balanced cable input. I had my Grado 325s converted by you to balanced with black dragon cables and it’s a night and day difference. If this gave me the option to have Bluetooth and balanced, I’d get it in a second. I think it would be the perfect partner to the AK KANN Max.
This headphone was made for a particular market of user and not just one person with specific needs
it is new reality... tried today EQ-ed my bose QCE II and meze rai penta+fiio utws5 ,both easy outperformed focal bathys in details and clarity. even bose has far better ANC vs bathys. they both sounds tone similar to my focal stellia...stellia ,of course another class in every way and home use. but i have on road and trips my new mini 'stellias' bose QCE II and rai penta. bathys collecting dust now at home. maybe for watching tv movies will be ok.
This may help:
What does 35 hours battery life in jack mode mean? Why would battery life have anything to do with jack mode and why would it be LESS than in Bluetooth dac mode?
In wired mode you still have to power the ANC.
Great review. I have been able to use my Bathys with my Sony NW Z507 though. It picks it up as a USB storage device but my volume controle on the player works fine and the USB DAC mode seems to work?
would you make a lighting to USB-C cable for this?
Unfortunately we do not at this time, but you can purchase an Apple CCK adapter (only available through Apple directly) to use our Dragon Cables with the Bathys if you want.
Could you use the USB DAC mode with an iPad Pro , playing high res lossless from Apple Music?
I just picked up the Bathy's last week, after watching this great review & several others. I definitely am impressed with the sound & quality build, using them with my FiiO 11 LTD DAP. A question, on the Black Dragon/Silver Dragon cable, would I notice that much of a difference from the stock wire? Also, would I notice more of a difference between my DAP and phone (Pixel 7 Pro)? New sub by the way!
We find there to be a big improvement when using our Black Dragon and Silver Dragon cable over the stock wire. We recommend the Black Dragon with the Bathys!
You'll notice a larger change upgrading from your phone to a DAP, but the cable also makes a noticeable improvement.
@@moon-audiocan the usb c cable work with a dap? I connected a usb c cable to the sony WM1AM2 and it was playing in dac mode, could l be mistaken?
Ticks so many boxes but leaving out Ldac seems like a poor decision for a headphone targeted at audiophiles. After multiple years of codec advancements, it still has the highest bit rate of any bt codec. This would be the perfect companion to my Sony wm-1am2 at work if it had it.
The good news is you can use USB DAC mode
Yea it is an oversight for sure, if they think that bluetooth codecs all sound the same why bother entering the high end market period why not make a cheaper headphone in the 300 dollar market, audiophiles hate bluetooth to begin with but at least ldac is closer to cd quality. The USB connection seems like a gimmick, who cares, if I am stationary I will be plugged in to an actual amp and using real headphones not a usb dac on a headphone.
Agreed, definitely should have included LDac.
they wouldn't be able to without a deal with sony, as the decoder is proprietary
@@marley720 Then how did Anker do it with their cheap headphones? They are ANC and cost around 100USD.
Hi, where do you buy those headphone stands?
Right here: www.moon-audio.com/sieveking-sound-omega-headphone-stand.html 🙂
how much～do wanna buy this piece
The Bathys retails for $799: www.moon-audio.com/focal-bathys-wireless-headphones.html
I’m looking for the cable for my Bathys on your website but can’t find it
Hi there! Here are the 2 Dragon Cables we recommend for the Focal Bathys.
Black Dragon Portable Headphone Cable: www.moon-audio.com/black-dragon-iem-sennheiser-momentum-headphone-cable-v1.html
Silver Dragon USB Cable: www.moon-audio.com/silver-dragon-usb-cable.html
sexy looking headphones but a bit flashy for my tastes. nice job sara.
What is the bass like? I like heavy heavy bass that doesn’t roll off
Clear, punchy bass but it's not a basshead headphone in it's standard turning. Using the Focal Naim app you can EQ the bass louder though to really get that slam when listening.
Is an upgrade cable justified for this headphone since you can’t use it in a truly passive mode? it must be on meaning both ANC and I assume DSP are operating in 3.5 wired mode. I tried wiring to my Chord mojo 2 and thought the sound improved and the mojo was controlling the volume but apparently this isn’t possible and i’m imagining the sound improvement.
We find the upgrade cable to make a big difference overall! While there is not a true passive mode, you can bypass the DAC in the Earcup with one of your own which can make the headphone sound even better. The Chord Mojo 2 is a better DAC and will improve your audio quality quite a bit. You aren't imagining it!
The ANC stays on, but the other features are bypassed when using an analog cable. DSP (i.e. DIgital Signal processing) is not used when listening via the 3.5mm output of your Mojo 2 as that is an analog signal and not a digital one. This also means you can control your volume with the Mojo 2!
Is it true they lack the ability to function as a wired headphone with an iphone?? Also, is it worth getting the black dragon cable to connect it to an iPhone adapter plug?
They can work as a wired headphone with any source that has a 3.5mm analog output, and yes, we feel the Black Dragon Portable Cable works very well with this headphone and the iPhone adapter! 🙂
@@moon-audio Hi I have the Bathys and tried wiring it with my chord mojo 2 and thought the sound improved. But sharing in a fb group I was told it’s not possible because the Bathys are always on and processing the signal so you can’t alter it with an external amp/dac and I assume an upgrade cable. It’s true there’s no truly passive mode. So what do you think about this? The fact there’s no true passive mode?
In what modes can the mic be used for voice input:
analog wired?
Bluetooth?
USB (DAC on/off) wired?
Analog wired depends on the cable, but the mic is supported both in Bluetooth and in the USB connected formats.
Just got B&W PX S2 in Europe for 420 usd, and yet fully satisfied. It has amazing sound and my favourite at the moment. Easily beats my Sony XM3, AT DSR7 and other few models. This price range is OK for BT, for 600-700 range I can get Ananda or Meze Pro. Cheers
whats the app called?
It's called the "Focal & Naim" app. You can find links to both Apple and Android versions in our review here: www.moon-audio.com/focal-bathys-wireless-headphone-review
Is the Bathys more bright in the highs than Focal Clear? Does it have a mic for phone calls and work meetings and how does it sound?
Doubt it, they mentioned it had a slightly warm sound and emphasized the bass performance when discussing the tone.
Not sure about other questions tho
No, Bathys is darker. I need to test it for calls but reviews around do mention the quality.
Bathys are tuned to be more Radiance than Celestee or Clear. Which I love, but it’s not for everyone. Honestly the radiance are better, but genuinely If I’m not sitting down and focusing deeply on the music I can hardly tell the difference, the Bathy get within 95-98% of the SQ of the Radiance and that’s freaking insane. Pretty much my endgame closed back for the foreseeable future. At home I have my LCD-5 and Utopia if I want a more refined listening experience so for now I’m perfectly happy with the Bathys
How did you find the app?
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You can find the apps here! 🙂
Google Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.naimaudio.naim.std
Apple App Store: apps.apple.com/us/app/naim/id381694252
We also have an app walkthrough on our review page: www.moon-audio.com/focal-bathys-wireless-headphone-review
@@moon-audio Thanks,but that site does not spell user friendly lol
Hi, does the power need to be switched on for the wired mode?
Yes, the Bathys should be powered on in wired mode (so you can make use of the different ANC features). 🙂
Are these headphones water proof since the name is related to an underwater seafaring vessel?
lol doubt it...
Unfortunately the analogy doesn't extend that far... as far as we know! 😅
Thank you very much for presenting the Focal Bathys early. As I really love the sound of Focal closed back headphones, I´m really tempted. For now my convenience headphones on the go are the Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 4, which I prefer soundwise over the Sony XM5.
Here is my question: What is the difference between the Sennheiser MW4 when using the USB-C connection for listening compared to the Bathys? And does the Bathys also charge simultaneously?
We are also quite happy with the Momentum Wireless 4, but we do find that the Bathys has the better sound of the two. It has a more punchy bass and clearer mids that really impressed us in our testing!
The Bathys can charge in "On" and "Off" modes but not in USB DAC mode.
@@moon-audio Thank you very much for answering my question! I think, I will try the Focal Bathys.
it has aptx
How much of an upgrade would it be over the B&W pxS2, which ive bought for 199.99 black friday, would upgrade be worth it. Debating if should return them even though i got at great price, would hate to find out its only slight upgrade
I will wait for the next version so they can refine it
Have they said the price? I was not paying 100% attention, but I would say that I have not heard anything about the price...
The Bathys retails for $799 USD: www.moon-audio.com/focal-bathys-wireless-headphones.html
I guess with this model Focal simply wants to kill new B&W PX8, Meze 109 Pro and some other models
Can you connect it wirelessly to the NAIM Uniti Atom?
No, Atom can only receive Bluetooth, not broadcast
I want to rant about this. How could they remove the spring on the york? It feels much cheaper than Celestee and Elegia.
I own Bathys and Elegia. When comparing, you can feel how clampy Elegias are. For a travel headphone that would be too much in my opinion.
I’d buy these, but I live in South Chicago. So I’m trying not to get mugged. Beautiful headphones though, but too eye-catchy for my neighborhood
It would be a concern here in Winnipeg too.
my thoughts too. love the headphone but the lights on the side make it pretty flashy.
Sony should take a note on the naming scheme. Wtfwh-onethousandsomething-xesesandmms.
bateeeees :D
How do these compare to the B&O H95?
Can these be compared to the PX8...?
Received my Bathys today in the UK, comfort is not the greatest, App is not easy to navigate at the start and takes some getting used to, Sound is excellent but bass is a bit boomy, build quality could have been better for the price. My Final UX3000 felt premium in terms of feel and comfort
my wallet said no to the bathys, so i ended with a xm5... and it has a plug to fit in my xperia..and i learned the bathys can t be used if it is turned off.
Ugh. Cables are cables. Hate the lies pushed with the Dragon cable sales pitch. Cables do NOT change the sound.
This is Moon Audio we are talking about haha. I don't trust a word they say. "Sonic Strengths" so dumb... LOL
I don't know man. I've bought from cables from Moon Audio and others and I don't think I'm imagining the difference I hear.
@@toddasher6112 Todd, as long as a cable is well-shielded it will sound the same as others. All this cable stuff is to prey on people that don't know better. There is a reason these companies don't like 3rd parties doing A/B tests on their cables.
@@toddasher6112 100% it’s placebo. You may hear a difference between balanced and non balanced, but that’s all.
Just by listening to their pitch on cable I am not inclined to trust their reviews going forward!
Why do you guys have such a bad reputation for supposedly scamming people on Reddit? Someone from your company needs to respond to these allegations or people like me will be swayed away from purchasing from you. You guys seem legitimate but it's quite a bit of posts. Thanks for the review 👍
Are you serious? What kind of illegitimate business would get a brand new headphone from Focal before it's even announced lol go back to Reddit
@@robwilkins72 Hey you hippo Focal doesn't have the best reputation with it's customers you can look that up anywhere. As far as to why they have stuff coming in is because they are an audio equipment dealer and not a very good one at that if you have to fend for them. I'll go back headfi gearspace and reddit forums that know way more about about anything than u would
@@jcap8391 lol hippo? keep it classy over there at reddit. I'll tell my 11yo nephew to hit you up for some kewl memes. a couple threads on reddit hardly makes a company illegitimate. its the walmart of forums.
@@anthonydiviolla1944 You must not be able to read anymore boomer. I also said headfi and gearspace also mentioned bad experiences with focal and moon audio
@@anthonydiviolla1944 If reddit is the Walmart of forums what reigns supreme in your eyes Mr Diviolla?
no LDAC or AptX lossless codec? Sigh.
It has aptx adaptive, good enough.
@@truth-12345. enjoy that for...800USD
@@harackmw I mean u get USB DAC mode. APTX lossless is pretty useless, LDAC is still king but you do lose out on the latency using LDAC over APTX adaptive. Bluetooth is always filled with compromises
@@harackmw If I have the money I'd still pick this over Apple airpods max.
@@truth-12345. Not for this price !!!
Pronounced Bah-tees
Ummmmmm… 800 reasons not to buy for me… id get a kef mu7 and a sony xm5 if i have $800
Comparable sound to the Celestee. Thats a shame...
Mark Levinson 5909. Even better sound and better production quality. “When a call comes in you press Bluetooth button” - why???? Why can’t this dumb phone just take a call without me having tp do anything?
Comparing this to Sony and Bose and Senn’s stupidest line momentum (senn makes amazing stuff not this line ain’t it) is just silly.
These rather overrated, overhyped headphones were clearly tuned to a very specific sound, and unfortunately it is a veiled, dull sound. It's weird, it sounds airy and at the same time veiled. If you don't know the price of these, and you listen to them blind, you would think these are much cheaper. But hey it looks and feels expensive.
I got the dune edition and the px8 both are amazing