I've come to value a child's intuition (adults as well, though we often lose touch with our intuition) more than the most sage wisdom. Your son knew. HalleluYAH! So glad you all survived unscathed.
Today we share a special episode. Sudden hurricane force winds had broken our ground tackle. Poly is drifting across the anchorage amongst other boats. We're fighting to avoid collisions. Enjoy and don't hesitate to ask questions and comments below. Thanks! Ania and Bartek / If you enjoy this video - please subscribe and leave a like 🤟 JOIN OUR LOVE BOAT GROUP: sailoceans.com/support-our-creation/
I dreamt about this for many years and the last refit created the opportunity to get it installed. I am very happy with this system for both safety, maneuvering, as well as for you guys. Cheers. B
@@sailoceans I've thought about it for years too. Every RUclips channel should have cameras that are on 24/7. Especially up the mast. A 360 camera up the mast would be ideal.
We have a 360 view normally, but one camera failed recently and went for warranty repair. It's already back in business, but we need to transport it back to the boat and reinstall it. Cheer. B
your natural instinct in the moment is a perfect example of how to take charge in these situations, well done! this video will be a great example to many people
Wow-great job you guys! Kept your cool and handled a very dangerous situation in a very smart and methodical way. Could have been soooo much worse! The masthead footage was amazing, and without it, your really wouldn't get a feel for how bad the situation was. You were passing those other boats so fast!! Interesting also to see the shallows that you couldn't see from the boat. Glad you are all safe!
My god that was crazy intense. I had a similar event on a 40ft monohull in Australia, that ended up good either. But seeing your boat drifting so close to the other static traffics and the reef. Oh my god, I held my breath much more than I thought capable for you. Especially with that mast camera view. You guys were an amazing team in such a sudden and potentially dire situation. That's impressive cold blood there. AMAZING job.
When you think about it these large tri's have so much force placed on the anchoring gear, especially in a blow or high tidal changes, basically 3 hulls taking the currents and windage, then the overall above waterline structure that takes a lot of windage, all of that must put considerably more forces on anchoring gear than say a mono of similar dimensions length wise
15:17 staying humble in the face of your own in capabilities might be the best approach just an advice from the not so Dutch but bow thrustering fender girl 😉
We thought the fender was so cute. Please accept my apologies if you found my comment offensive in any way. The bow thrustering was much appreciated and much acknowledged in the movie as a factor in making the escape maneuver safer with larger margin. I hope you saw that. Thank you for help and the comment. Cheers dear neighbors.
Anchored next to you in Orient in March. Just tripped upon your channel. Fascinating boat and great video. For those who’ve never experienced harsh conditions on a boat, it’s difficult to describe, even w video. The intense noise is the most unsettling part! If it looks concerning on video, it was very scary in real life!
That time when all the camera setup pays off for post incident analysis and the video. Usually everyone in such situations are very busy and there is no time for operator work. Kudos, brings back some chills from the similar situations!
Well done captain! That was some exceptional piloting skills on your part considering the conditions; the size of your vessel; and the fact that you were maneuvering with only ONE engine!!! Very Impressive!!! 👍
Oh I missed this video! You guys did an awesome job avoiding the other boats; that squall was hectic and trimarans (even with a bow thruster) don’t turn quickly. Well done again👍
That was close. Happy it all went well given these extreme circumstances. It also proofs ( at least to me) how difficult the trimaran concept is in comparison to a catamaran. Great response of the both of you, emotions come later… take your time. You may find the anchor when you dive for it.
Anchor, ground tackle, Attachment points, and motor are undersized on most sailboats. Think 100% bigger. A second sizable anchor bridled 30 feet from the main anchor with a short chain. 35 can become 55 and 55 can become 85. Fail is not an option or the expense.
Wow that was intense! Great that all ended well. Congrats to you - you handled it like champs! You had initial GPS position, so I'm pretty sure you recovered chain and anchor :)
That was intense, some quick thinking indeed. Do you think you'll be able to recover the anchor? Btw. Great choice of the thumbnail, it perfectly captures the intensity of your adventure.
That shackle seemed a bit undersized for such a big boat with that much windage. Good job handling the situation. From my similar personal experiences I found the stress to be near debilitating. So staying calm is the hardest thing to do.
I commented earlier to your Polish channel, but am reposting now in English… I continue to struggle with Poly’s lack of windward motion. Why didn’t she round-up? … from the Polish comment … ‘Ania & Bartek, What an incredible moment of drama, explosive destruction, and piloting courage. As many have said, your skills and training for ‘crisis management’ saved your family. Amazing that your ground tackle was not sufficient for the strain (we now know why…). Yet your new anchor-roller-housing flexed, but did not break! Absolutely Amazing... What confuses me is that you were nose to the wind (snubber attached to each ama) and then suddenly (before the snubber broke) Poly presented her starboard side to the wind and did not round-up into the wind. Why? What caused the rotation? When you jumped on the helm, was your first instinct to apply port bow-thruster (non-functional) or full steam ahead with starboard rudder? Poly does not have an unusually high freeboard, so windage isn’t excessive, yet she did not show a weather helm!?! That anchor held incredibly well (you must have been off the northern shore of Calivigny Island for many days to allow her to dig in that deep and hard). You have your way point, so you can recover the anchor/chain! I'm still baffled as to why Poly didn't round-up into the wind. My trimaran does not have keels on the amas, I recall that your amas have small keels. Would keels on the amas have prevented Poly from rounding-up? My trimaran always swings to windward. I'm still scratching my head ... (Fantastic masthead camera!) BTW … during your refit, I suggested installing outboard motor mounts on the amas. Remove the dinghy outboard(s) and place them on the amas. The result is improved maneuverability. Two (or three) engines are better than one! 😎
Hi! Yes, you are right in asking this question. Poly is a different animal somewhat and do no know for sure why. It is perhaps due to the fins in the amas rather in the central hull, where the only board is a deep rudder. And that causes it to behave more like the windsurfing board then anything else meaning that statically it will turn around the rudder like a flag with the wind. So it is completely leeward. On the other hand while underway the boat is weather helmed in general. In the video you can clearly see how it bears away immediately after snapping the snubber and the rode. On the other hand we have to have a bit of lee rudder while specially with full main and higher wind speeds. It is actually not true that Poly does not have high windage sideway. It has relatively high freeboard specially when you compare it to the underwater sections in between midship and the bow where there is barely any wetted surface. Hence, we have 3 big sails (bows) and nothing in the water to pose resistance. So as soon as they catch side wind component the boat turns immediately downwind if there is no rudder authority. We have modified the rudder to travel all the way to +/- 35 degrees. That made the boat far more maneuverable. Specially we gained the option to rotate on the spot when you add full power momentarily with full rudder deflection. And that is far more effective than the bow thruster (when it actually works :D). We gave a serious thought for a few months to both ama electric engines and outboards. The first got ruled out, because of immaturity of most available electric propulsion systems or high cost of the proven ones like OceanVolt and because of the issue with flying amas and complications in installing drives deep enough to avoid cavitation. The outboards we found highly impractical with the difficulty in handling the weight they would pose to keep mounting and dismounting them for every occasion to be used if they were to poses enough power to make a difference. Hence we shelved the project, but not trashed. We are still in touch with one 2 different manufacturers who are developing something new that we may become future partner for. Cheers mate, Bartek PS. Have you written an email to us about this?
Great hearing your thoughtful and serious responses! The current Neel design philosophy is rather angular and boxy, and by comparison to your prototype, appears to present a larger freeboard/windage. To my eye, your rounded design appears to present less surface area, but you know best. My tri has a long fin rudder and a long, slender swing-keel, so she has a weather helm in almost all conditions, but I’m only 30’ … Poly is 50’ (… not to mention your newly added hardtop/wind-scoop 🤣). In all seriousness, I love your attractive and functional refit! Nevertheless, I agree that the electric ama drives are developmentally immature, but adding an outboard motor bracket to each ama would have been a very simple, low-cost, and effective solution to your maneuverability concerns (especially during docking). When underway, your dinghy engine is always stowed, but could easily be transferred to an ama bracket prior to departure. A 15hp outboard on each ama (given the working force 4 meters from the center-line) would spin that boat without hassle. A 15hp outboard weighs 80 lbs. and is light enough to manage. Fuel and control lines could be discretely run, etc. etc Upon review, I now see that your amas have small fin keels, which likely locks the boat in a given direction. (Much like the canard design … my Dad flew Corsairs in WW II and taught me to fly😎) Thanks again for engaging in a lively discussion. It’s always worthwhile. Marc PS Yes, I emailed you some time ago :)
WOW😮...that was intense..so suddenly..and hard thinking and working and digest this all. And agree on the last remarks after the adreline rush..good to learn some lessons from this so its not happening again. Maybe 2th anchor and chain (costs some weight=speed and money but..)? Mast camera screened in the cockpit or on phone/tablet to see it live? ..
Nicely controlled guys any time you don't crash is great. a small sugestion for future security is to change out the bridle lines for much heavier 3strand rope say 28 or 32mm with a chain grab not shackles, shackles are always the weak point and some heavy three strand nylon or PE rope gives you a lot of stretch as a shock absorber in heavy weather. Cheers
Glad to hear everyone is okay. After the chain shackle to bridle broke, it looks like the rode may have point loaded on the edge of the bow roller bracket and failed there. You might want to change the bow roller design with a larger diameter roller that extends out past the bracket with end caps, so the rode can't touch the bracket at large angles. The bracket was also bending sideways quite a lot.
Quite crucial thing is to watch detailed weather forecast. If you do, you can even "escape" the bad weather - or at least know upfront, you need to prepare for one. The dinghy (in that bad sea state) should have been hooked up in its cradle. Otherwise - you did what could be done.
Great job -- but I was worried about you guys during the storm winds. Would radios help to keep in contact with one another when one has to be at the helm and the other checking the bow lines or sails?
Wow, that must have been an agonizing experience. Glad everyone is OK and the damage was minimal compared to what it could have been. I recall during the refit last year you were contemplating adding two electric motors in the amas but the complexity and cost was prohibitive. This is one situation where the extra thrust probably could have been used effectively. I guess this is all part of living on a boat.
Well that was a crazy experience, lucky there wasn't hail thrown into the mix, that would have caused a whole lot of additional problems. Hope all is good now.
Only one thing you forgot through the whole ordeal comrades . . . you were both naked . . ha ha ha . . . I'am glad all are safe, god bless you and your family.
The Eastern European logical mind is a good thing in such an event. The way they think is very practical above all. I wonder about where all that practicality comes from. It seems to be baked into their culture. In any case, thank goodness it served them well and catastrophe avoided. Bravo.
Can feel how you re-live the panic as you are doing the voice overs into English. Ads to the drama of the video but hope you don't get nightmares lol glad you made it out okay
What a random comment because a boat you were drifting onto chose chose to put fenders out its a silly idea??? If i had a big tri drifting past me in 50knots with 2 confused naked people i would protect my boat however i could. Glad you were ok and bad situations can happen to anyone but i think some more recognition to the boats thrusting and working to get out of your way as shown on the video.
We thought the fender was so cute. Please accept my apologies if you found my comment offensive in any way. The bow thrustering was much appreciated and much acknowledged in the movie as a factor in making the escape maneuver safer with larger margin. I hope you saw that. Thank you for the comment. Cheers. B
Takie lejce ze względu na powiększanie siły napięcia skośnej liny jest ryzykowne ,korzystne jest że są dwie liny i ulegają napięci i naciągnięci łagodząc udar, bloczek w szczycie trójkąta byłby wspaniały, mądrze się bo wytrzymałość materiałów to moje wykształcenie. Wytrzymałość tych lejców wzrośnie gdy zmniejszycie kont na trójkącie lub wydłużycie wąsy . Generalnie wszystkie materiały ulegają odkształceni w czasie obciążania ,a naszą rolą jest tak skonstruować połączenia by nie występowały gwałtowne udary i do tego w jednym punkcie , jak coś chcecie wzmocnić to zastanówcie gdzie zadziała najsilniej obciążenie i jak je rozłożyć na więcej elementów. Naciąganie się elementów jest korzystne zmniejsza udar chwilowy ,to udar chwilowy bez zniekształcenia ,wydłużenia wygięcia chwilowego niszczy dany element.
The bridal cannot have a block in the middle because it would negate its one of the top priorities to keep the boat from dancing left and right on the anchor. The bridal is made of thick polyester rope for elasticity to absorb dynamic forces. Ends are spliced with carbon protection to prevent chafing. Cheers. B
Having watched the video a few times… as a sailor for decades… may I suggest something? …A catamaran can pivot with the two engines… but a single engine trimaran just can not do that, and needs water running over the rudder to make a turn… which then is still a rather large circle ..and a problem in close quarters… I really looked into trimarans but decided that with that concept and the relatively small side hulls they are not my thing… but.. why do you not solve this problem? Electric engines are small, relatively light and cheap in comparison to the cost of a crash.. hence my suggestion is to put two small electric engines in both side hulls to manoeuvre. (( a step further is to remove the heavy main engine)) with those engines you have a semi electric boat that can turn in close quarters. And given you sail mostly they do not need large battery banks. Just tell some lithium fed by solar or the diesel..When they can run for 1 hr you’re good .. but connected on the diesel should never be a problem….then in marinas anchorage etc they will make berthing a breeze. As for weight? Personally would not worry about that given the length of your boat.. but you can always throw out the dishwasher as it seems you’ve already thrown out the bikinis 😅 happy you’re save.. greetings from our crew to yours Sv VageKennis
We gave a serious thought for a few months to both ama electric engines and outboards. The first got ruled out, because of immaturity of most available electric propulsion systems or high cost of the proven ones like OceanVolt and because of the issue with flying amas and complications in installing drives deep enough to avoid cavitation. The outboards we found highly impractical with the difficulty in handling the weight they would pose to keep mounting and dismounting them for every occasion to be used if they were to poses enough power to make a difference. Hence we shelved the project, but not trashed. We are still in touch with one 2 different manufacturers who are developing something new that we may become future partner for. Cheers mate, Bartek
Look I get your question and the way I see it is they had a life threatening emergency and damn clothes! Protect those kids now! But even if not the emergency it's perfectly healthy. I grew up with a nudist father and a non nudist mother. My dad always put his clothes on when we had company. So please keep your mind open and know that it's perfectly healthy. Most if not all psychologists would tell you there's nothing wrong with it and even helps the child's development.
I'm trying to figure out why you're naked in front of your kids as well as the boats right beside of you that may have kids also. Not to mention adults that don't want to see that. That seems inconsiderate and a bit troubling around your kids. To each his/her own.
It's just tits and cock we all gottem chill. But I am curious why they are suddenly naked like did the wind blow off their clothes? That's frighteningly hilarious
I love being apart of your followers . But you target the English speaking world I’m assuming , so if you have the camera out and you plan to use the footage for the channel maybe speak English the you won’t have to translate later
Telling your wife you were right when she's this upset isn't the smartest thing I've seen a husband do. As long as you knew you were right you should of comfort her and not rub salt in the wound by letting her know she was wrong for wanting to leave the boat.
Better than any episode of Naked and Afraid...you guys handled it like champs. Well done guys 👌
Thank you :)
I've come to value a child's intuition (adults as well, though we often lose touch with our intuition) more than the most sage wisdom. Your son knew. HalleluYAH! So glad you all survived unscathed.
Wow! Congratulations on the perfect reaction. It is very difficult not to get anything wrong in the midst of all that pressure.
Today we share a special episode. Sudden hurricane force winds had broken our ground tackle. Poly is drifting across the anchorage amongst other boats. We're fighting to avoid collisions. Enjoy and don't hesitate to ask questions and comments below. Thanks! Ania and Bartek / If you enjoy this video - please subscribe and leave a like 🤟
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The genius behind the mast camera has already proven itself. Good job and very smart.
I dreamt about this for many years and the last refit created the opportunity to get it installed. I am very happy with this system for both safety, maneuvering, as well as for you guys. Cheers. B
@@sailoceans I've thought about it for years too. Every RUclips channel should have cameras that are on 24/7. Especially up the mast. A 360 camera up the mast would be ideal.
We have a 360 view normally, but one camera failed recently and went for warranty repair. It's already back in business, but we need to transport it back to the boat and reinstall it. Cheer. B
Things like this often happen with boats. It's just boating life. You did well, thankfully.
your natural instinct in the moment is a perfect example of how to take charge in these situations, well done! this video will be a great example to many people
Moral of the story: Highest end ground tackle cost far out weights cost of lost boat.
Thank you for this important reminder.
So true!
Wow-great job you guys! Kept your cool and handled a very dangerous situation in a very smart and methodical way. Could have been soooo much worse! The masthead footage was amazing, and without it, your really wouldn't get a feel for how bad the situation was. You were passing those other boats so fast!! Interesting also to see the shallows that you couldn't see from the boat. Glad you are all safe!
My god that was crazy intense. I had a similar event on a 40ft monohull in Australia, that ended up good either. But seeing your boat drifting so close to the other static traffics and the reef. Oh my god, I held my breath much more than I thought capable for you. Especially with that mast camera view.
You guys were an amazing team in such a sudden and potentially dire situation. That's impressive cold blood there. AMAZING job.
When you think about it these large tri's have so much force placed on the anchoring gear, especially in a blow or high tidal changes, basically 3 hulls taking the currents and windage, then the overall above waterline structure that takes a lot of windage, all of that must put considerably more forces on anchoring gear than say a mono of similar dimensions length wise
So they should upgrade all the hardware like it was for a boat 3x their size.
Smart kid you got there! :)
Totally. Never underestimate the power of intuition. Ania HEARD him - smart mom, too!
No doubt friend! :)@@GataMiau44
15:17 staying humble in the face of your own in capabilities might be the best approach just an advice from the not so Dutch but bow thrustering fender girl 😉
We thought the fender was so cute. Please accept my apologies if you found my comment offensive in any way. The bow thrustering was much appreciated and much acknowledged in the movie as a factor in making the escape maneuver safer with larger margin. I hope you saw that. Thank you for help and the comment. Cheers dear neighbors.
Anchored next to you in Orient in March. Just tripped upon your channel. Fascinating boat and great video. For those who’ve never experienced harsh conditions on a boat, it’s difficult to describe, even w video. The intense noise is the most unsettling part! If it looks concerning on video, it was very scary in real life!
Fully agree. There's no media to convey the situation in its full intensity. Where are you now?1
Yeah thats a crapy morning. Looking forward to the continued episodes of the refit.
Shortly 😊
That time when all the camera setup pays off for post incident analysis and the video. Usually everyone in such situations are very busy and there is no time for operator work. Kudos, brings back some chills from the similar situations!
Yes. I've been dreaming about the cameras on the mast for years :)
WOW WOW WOW You showed good seamanship and remained calm and collected.
It is difficult when everything is suddenly chaotic around you.
Well done
Thank you 😊
Well done captain! That was some exceptional piloting skills on your part considering the conditions; the size of your vessel; and the fact that you were maneuvering with only ONE engine!!! Very Impressive!!! 👍
Thank you very much!
Amazing control and presence of mind in an extreme situation, huge Kudos!
OMG - so intense and scary. Great teamwork, guys! Glad you're all safe and the boat didn't take any damage. Hope you find your anchor.
Great reaction timing, and good recovery. Glad your home and family is ok.
Thank you! 😊
Just glad you guys are all safe and no other damage to the boat.❤
So are we. Thank you.😍
Very glad you are all safe! Hope you are able to find a better shackle and new rode! All the best!
In the next episode :)
the top down footage from the mast as you drift past the boats is terrifying
Yall are bloody LEGENDS... well done👏🏼 ... staying calm under pressure. Love from Adrian in Cape Town South Africa 🇿🇦 ❤️
We have an expression in the states of "Being caught with your pants down.". I think that fit your situation in more ways than one. Lol
😆🙏😍
Oh I missed this video! You guys did an awesome job avoiding the other boats; that squall was hectic and trimarans (even with a bow thruster) don’t turn quickly. Well done again👍
That was close. Happy it all went well given these extreme circumstances. It also proofs ( at least to me) how difficult the trimaran concept is in comparison to a catamaran. Great response of the both of you, emotions come later… take your time. You may find the anchor when you dive for it.
Anchor, ground tackle, Attachment points, and motor are undersized on most sailboats. Think 100% bigger. A second sizable anchor bridled 30 feet from the main anchor with a short chain. 35 can become 55 and 55 can become 85. Fail is not an option or the expense.
Please note that the anchor held, so that's not where we made the improvements. Cheers. B
Wow. What a dramatic episode. So glad you’re safe!
Thanks for translating. The video
Wow that was intense! Great that all ended well. Congrats to you - you handled it like champs! You had initial GPS position, so I'm pretty sure you recovered chain and anchor :)
That was intense, some quick thinking indeed. Do you think you'll be able to recover the anchor? Btw. Great choice of the thumbnail, it perfectly captures the intensity of your adventure.
Thank you. Wait for the next episode ;). Cheers. B
that was scary! glad you all and the boat are safe.
Thank you. So are we.
That shackle seemed a bit undersized for such a big boat with that much windage. Good job handling the situation. From my similar personal experiences I found the stress to be near debilitating. So staying calm is the hardest thing to do.
good voice over. ty for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Fast acting parents keeping their cubs safe!. I swear you guys don't get the credit you deserve. Thank you for the translation in English
Thank you :)
Thank you for sharing! I've watched all your videos and I'm especially very proud of you on this one!
Glad u liked it mate. Cheers. B
wow, talk about getting caught with your pants down. 🤭 But I have to say you guys did a great job staying calm under CRAZY conditions.
I commented earlier to your Polish channel, but am reposting now in English…
I continue to struggle with Poly’s lack of windward motion. Why didn’t she round-up?
… from the Polish comment …
‘Ania & Bartek,
What an incredible moment of drama, explosive destruction, and piloting courage. As many have said, your skills and training for ‘crisis management’ saved your family. Amazing that your ground tackle was not sufficient for the strain (we now know why…). Yet your new anchor-roller-housing flexed, but did not break! Absolutely Amazing... What confuses me is that you were nose to the wind (snubber attached to each ama) and then suddenly (before the snubber broke) Poly presented her starboard side to the wind and did not round-up into the wind. Why? What caused the rotation? When you jumped on the helm, was your first instinct to apply port bow-thruster (non-functional) or full steam ahead with starboard rudder? Poly does not have an unusually high freeboard, so windage isn’t excessive, yet she did not show a weather helm!?!
That anchor held incredibly well (you must have been off the northern shore of Calivigny Island for many days to allow her to dig in that deep and hard). You have your way point, so you can recover the anchor/chain!
I'm still baffled as to why Poly didn't round-up into the wind. My trimaran does not have keels on the amas, I recall that your amas have small keels. Would keels on the amas have prevented Poly from rounding-up? My trimaran always swings to windward. I'm still scratching my head ... (Fantastic masthead camera!)
BTW … during your refit, I suggested installing outboard motor mounts on the amas. Remove the dinghy outboard(s) and place them on the amas. The result is improved maneuverability. Two (or three) engines are better than one! 😎
Hi! Yes, you are right in asking this question. Poly is a different animal somewhat and do no know for sure why. It is perhaps due to the fins in the amas rather in the central hull, where the only board is a deep rudder. And that causes it to behave more like the windsurfing board then anything else meaning that statically it will turn around the rudder like a flag with the wind. So it is completely leeward. On the other hand while underway the boat is weather helmed in general. In the video you can clearly see how it bears away immediately after snapping the snubber and the rode. On the other hand we have to have a bit of lee rudder while specially with full main and higher wind speeds. It is actually not true that Poly does not have high windage sideway. It has relatively high freeboard specially when you compare it to the underwater sections in between midship and the bow where there is barely any wetted surface. Hence, we have 3 big sails (bows) and nothing in the water to pose resistance. So as soon as they catch side wind component the boat turns immediately downwind if there is no rudder authority. We have modified the rudder to travel all the way to +/- 35 degrees. That made the boat far more maneuverable. Specially we gained the option to rotate on the spot when you add full power momentarily with full rudder deflection. And that is far more effective than the bow thruster (when it actually works :D). We gave a serious thought for a few months to both ama electric engines and outboards. The first got ruled out, because of immaturity of most available electric propulsion systems or high cost of the proven ones like OceanVolt and because of the issue with flying amas and complications in installing drives deep enough to avoid cavitation. The outboards we found highly impractical with the difficulty in handling the weight they would pose to keep mounting and dismounting them for every occasion to be used if they were to poses enough power to make a difference. Hence we shelved the project, but not trashed. We are still in touch with one 2 different manufacturers who are developing something new that we may become future partner for.
Cheers mate,
Bartek
PS. Have you written an email to us about this?
Great hearing your thoughtful and serious responses!
The current Neel design philosophy is rather angular and boxy, and by comparison to your prototype, appears to present a larger freeboard/windage. To my eye, your rounded design appears to present less surface area, but you know best.
My tri has a long fin rudder and a long, slender swing-keel, so she has a weather helm in almost all conditions, but I’m only 30’ … Poly is 50’ (… not to mention your newly added hardtop/wind-scoop 🤣).
In all seriousness, I love your attractive and functional refit!
Nevertheless, I agree that the electric ama drives are developmentally immature, but adding an outboard motor bracket to each ama would have been a very simple, low-cost, and effective solution to your maneuverability concerns (especially during docking).
When underway, your dinghy engine is always stowed, but could easily be transferred to an ama bracket prior to departure. A 15hp outboard on each ama (given the working force 4 meters from the center-line) would spin that boat without hassle. A 15hp outboard weighs 80 lbs. and is light enough to manage. Fuel and control lines could be discretely run, etc. etc
Upon review, I now see that your amas have small fin keels, which likely locks the boat in a given direction.
(Much like the canard design … my Dad flew Corsairs in WW II and taught me to fly😎)
Thanks again for engaging in a lively discussion. It’s always worthwhile.
Marc
PS
Yes, I emailed you some time ago :)
Worth considering FYI 😎 … ruclips.net/video/Akoi1dIKyEw/видео.htmlfeature=shared
WOW😮...that was intense..so suddenly..and hard thinking and working and digest this all. And agree on the last remarks after the adreline rush..good to learn some lessons from this so its not happening again. Maybe 2th anchor and chain (costs some weight=speed and money but..)? Mast camera screened in the cockpit or on phone/tablet to see it live? ..
Great job y'all! Also, thank you for adding English....another great video. Thanks again and be good-or be good at it!
Also, I love y'all.
Thank you very much!
Damn!! That was a scary situation!
Nicely controlled guys any time you don't crash is great. a small sugestion for future security is to change out the bridle lines for much heavier 3strand rope say 28 or 32mm with a chain grab not shackles, shackles are always the weak point and some heavy three strand nylon or PE rope gives you a lot of stretch as a shock absorber in heavy weather. Cheers
We had a 3 strand 32 mm, just changed it to .... next episode ;). Cheers mate.
Glad to hear everyone is okay. After the chain shackle to bridle broke, it looks like the rode may have point loaded on the edge of the bow roller bracket and failed there. You might want to change the bow roller design with a larger diameter roller that extends out past the bracket with end caps, so the rode can't touch the bracket at large angles. The bracket was also bending sideways quite a lot.
More on that in the next episode. :)
Count your blessings and thank God for your safety❤
Quite crucial thing is to watch detailed weather forecast. If you do, you can even "escape" the bad weather - or at least know upfront, you need to prepare for one. The dinghy (in that bad sea state) should have been hooked up in its cradle. Otherwise - you did what could be done.
It was really hard to control a boat if you were nearby that could possibly hit due to weather conditions. Good job, guys. From the Philippines
Great job -- but I was worried about you guys during the storm winds. Would radios help to keep in contact with one another when one has to be at the helm and the other checking the bow lines or sails?
Yes. Intercom is indeed a great help when it's seriously windy and or rainy.
Great job guys.. But best "Naked and Afraid" episode. 😊
Wow, that must have been an agonizing experience. Glad everyone is OK and the damage was minimal compared to what it could have been. I recall during the refit last year you were contemplating adding two electric motors in the amas but the complexity and cost was prohibitive. This is one situation where the extra thrust probably could have been used effectively. I guess this is all part of living on a boat.
Very true!
Well that was a crazy experience, lucky there wasn't hail thrown into the mix, that would have caused a whole lot of additional problems. Hope all is good now.
Only one thing you forgot through the whole ordeal comrades . . . you were both naked . . ha ha ha . . . I'am glad all are safe, god bless you and your family.
The Eastern European logical mind is a good thing in such an event. The way they think is very practical above all. I wonder about where all that practicality comes from. It seems to be baked into their culture. In any case, thank goodness it served them well and catastrophe avoided. Bravo.
Can feel how you re-live the panic as you are doing the voice overs into English. Ads to the drama of the video but hope you don't get nightmares lol glad you made it out okay
Thankfully no nightmares. Otherwise we couldn't do this lifestyle 😉. Cheers mate.
What a random comment because a boat you were drifting onto chose chose to put fenders out its a silly idea??? If i had a big tri drifting past me in 50knots with 2 confused naked people i would protect my boat however i could. Glad you were ok and bad situations can happen to anyone but i think some more recognition to the boats thrusting and working to get out of your way as shown on the video.
We thought the fender was so cute. Please accept my apologies if you found my comment offensive in any way. The bow thrustering was much appreciated and much acknowledged in the movie as a factor in making the escape maneuver safer with larger margin. I hope you saw that. Thank you for the comment. Cheers. B
did you manage to get the anchor back on the boat? what snap? the chain?
All in the next episode mate. Cheers. B
Cool heads prevail.
Takie lejce ze względu na powiększanie siły napięcia skośnej liny jest ryzykowne ,korzystne jest że są dwie liny i ulegają napięci i naciągnięci łagodząc udar, bloczek w szczycie trójkąta byłby wspaniały, mądrze się bo wytrzymałość materiałów to moje wykształcenie. Wytrzymałość tych lejców wzrośnie gdy zmniejszycie kont na trójkącie lub wydłużycie wąsy . Generalnie wszystkie materiały ulegają odkształceni w czasie obciążania ,a naszą rolą jest tak skonstruować połączenia by nie występowały gwałtowne udary i do tego w jednym punkcie , jak coś chcecie wzmocnić to zastanówcie gdzie zadziała najsilniej obciążenie i jak je rozłożyć na więcej elementów. Naciąganie się elementów jest korzystne zmniejsza udar chwilowy ,to udar chwilowy bez zniekształcenia ,wydłużenia wygięcia chwilowego niszczy dany element.
The bridal cannot have a block in the middle because it would negate its one of the top priorities to keep the boat from dancing left and right on the anchor. The bridal is made of thick polyester rope for elasticity to absorb dynamic forces. Ends are spliced with carbon protection to prevent chafing. Cheers. B
Thanks all family is great.
What did you learn from this?
What will you do for redundancy?
Wait for the answers in the next episode please. Cheers.
Fantastic mast cam, what brand is it and how does it work?
It's regular outdoor security cam from Dahua. It does the job really well. Cheers.
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all chain
Bartek is a cool head and Anya very attractive when scared & emotional
Having watched the video a few times… as a sailor for decades… may I suggest something? …A catamaran can pivot with the two engines… but a single engine trimaran just can not do that, and needs water running over the rudder to make a turn… which then is still a rather large circle ..and a problem in close quarters… I really looked into trimarans but decided that with that concept and the relatively small side hulls they are not my thing… but.. why do you not solve this problem? Electric engines are small, relatively light and cheap in comparison to the cost of a crash.. hence my suggestion is to put two small electric engines in both side hulls to manoeuvre. (( a step further is to remove the heavy main engine)) with those engines you have a semi electric boat that can turn in close quarters. And given you sail mostly they do not need large battery banks. Just tell some lithium fed by solar or the diesel..When they can run for 1 hr you’re good .. but connected on the diesel should never be a problem….then in marinas anchorage etc they will make berthing a breeze. As for weight? Personally would not worry about that given the length of your boat.. but you can always throw out the dishwasher as it seems you’ve already thrown out the bikinis 😅 happy you’re save.. greetings from our crew to yours
Sv VageKennis
We gave a serious thought for a few months to both ama electric engines and outboards. The first got ruled out, because of immaturity of most available electric propulsion systems or high cost of the proven ones like OceanVolt and because of the issue with flying amas and complications in installing drives deep enough to avoid cavitation. The outboards we found highly impractical with the difficulty in handling the weight they would pose to keep mounting and dismounting them for every occasion to be used if they were to poses enough power to make a difference. Hence we shelved the project, but not trashed. We are still in touch with one 2 different manufacturers who are developing something new that we may become future partner for.
Cheers mate,
Bartek
I hate FOTO editing we on shore could have so much fun in viewing.😂 Great full you are ok
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I hate leaving the boat on a good day , Well done
Well done.,I liked the naked...lol 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🎤
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Why is everyone naked in the middle of a storm? 😂😂
ciekawe tu o maity się nie czepiają
Doookładnieee :D
Co nie? To samo zauważyłam.
Was he naked in front of his kids like that wow
probably yes....
Look I get your question and the way I see it is they had a life threatening emergency and damn clothes! Protect those kids now! But even if not the emergency it's perfectly healthy.
I grew up with a nudist father and a non nudist mother. My dad always put his clothes on when we had company. So please keep your mind open and know that it's perfectly healthy. Most if not all psychologists would tell you there's nothing wrong with it and even helps the child's development.
It's really not any of our concerns.
It's quite normal for europeans, nudity is natural.
Indeed we, including our kids do not see anything wrong with any part of our bodies and we'd like it to remain that way. Cheers. B
I'm trying to figure out why you're naked in front of your kids as well as the boats right beside of you that may have kids also. Not to mention adults that don't want to see that. That seems inconsiderate and a bit troubling around your kids. To each his/her own.
It's just tits and cock we all gottem chill. But I am curious why they are suddenly naked like did the wind blow off their clothes? That's frighteningly hilarious
I love being apart of your followers . But you target the English speaking world I’m assuming , so if you have the camera out and you plan to use the footage for the channel maybe speak English the you won’t have to translate later
By the way great job not hitting anything
Telling your wife you were right when she's this upset isn't the smartest thing I've seen a husband do. As long as you knew you were right you should of comfort her and not rub salt in the wound by letting her know she was wrong for wanting to leave the boat.
That's what her son said, not her husband. Bartek only made a voice over for this.
Exactly. Thank you :)