+UnknownUser It doesn't when you're sat on your couch trying to get comfortable and you have a 10m ethernet cable dangling across your floor, through the walls and in to a switch...
Great video! It would be great if you could do a video on the IETF RFC standards process, and how and why tech standards are created, updated and implemented.
Multiple cows.... fukin linus, man... srsly though your professional quality mixed with tongue in cheek shit like that is why I love your channles. pls dont stop.
Ok, here's the question Linus - since Wave 1 clients can't do MU-MIMO, I assume the Wave 2 access point falls back to Wave 1 for those clients. So what happens in mixed environments where let's say there are 9x Wave 2 clients and 1x Wave 1 client? Does that single Wave 1 client screw everything up for the other 9 clients every time it is its turn to talk to the AP?
and i just bought an ac wave 1 router before knowing about wave 2... technology is like diarrhoea. when you think the spur of shit is over, nope, there's more. alot more.
Wow I think that's the best explanation of wireless technologies I have ever heard.. And for every "I" dotted and "t" crossed in 6 minutes it's pretty impressive!... hats off to ya :D
bridging is supported only on the higher end offering, on my kind of line, which is the most common, these kind of capabilities are locked by the vendor of the internet line, you have to pay extra even to unlock the wireless capability of the modem/router provided in the contract, and to spend something like 40 euros monthly to get 7 meg down (via ethernet), yeah..it sucks
+Vittorio Sergi You can buy an Asus Router and then from your Home router a Ethernet cabel to the WAN port on the Router that you can't change, then you have highspeed WLAN
why do i think all this "technology " was more than known when "wave1" was launched but it was purposedly set aside so the industry could cash on selling the same shit twice? i get this feeling about most eletronic stuff this days. they do it on games , holding on content , call it DLC and sell the game twice, i wouldn´t be suprised if this was the same scheme.
@@LiEnby a 2gb HDD would not run xp well at all and 512mb of ram would have been a massive amount in the 2gb HDD days. My first xp computer (2002) had 128mb of ram and 40gb HDD. (1996) Win 95 64mb ram 5gb HDD. (1993) old 486 IBMwith win 3.1 had 40mb HDD and 2mb ram upgraded to 8mb. These are just the systems I used. But yeah xp reallllly likes having free HDD space to run properly. With that much ram and no free space you'll get page file issues right away. This still happens actually and is the reason I switched from a 60gb ssd to a 240gb.
One thing to note is that when using 160mhz of the spectrum and ruining your neighbour's wifi also means you're getting interference from them, thereby lowering your performance in turn. Just because there's a buffet doesn't mean you should eat everything
You said that there's been so many updates to wifi it's crazy and routers are outdated really quickly... but I would disagree. This is actually the first update to WiFi standards in a very long time that actually sounds useful. I still have a G router, and have had no reason to even consider upgrading. The bottleneck has always been my ISP. Until I live in a city with Google Fiber or something, my router is already faster than my internet connection so a "faster" router is completely pointless" However, this update, with it's ability to better connect to more devices simultaneously, could actually be useful, so I'm pretty excited about that :)
I just bought a Netgear R7000P (2016), 15 months after purchasing a Netgear R7000 (2013). Feel somewhat stupid that I didn't notice the two different models when I purchased the first.
Wiresless signal clutter is why I mostly use wired networking. Wireless is useful and I'll use it when I need it but I'll stick to wired networking when I can. I drilled a hole between rooms and created my own Cat6 wall jack just so I could wire my computer to the internet instead of relying on wireless. Besides, all my devices (routers, laptops, smartphones) are still 'ye old' wireless N - I'm not about to spend a fortune replacing everything.
I don't think i will need to buy one of those anytime soon. My local area network practically in disrepair since the beginning of June. I was required to upgrade to a VDSL modem, and i have only plugged the computer directly into the modem until i feel like trying make rest of the network to work with the modem. (note: the modem is really a modem/router/AC combo, but i only use it as an modem)
well it's great that technology developes even further but I guess that didn't surprise anyone ^^ I for myself can say that it is worth it to upgrade to ac wave 1. i got a 3 antenna router and my phone and my smart TV have 2 antennas and i can stream 4K 100mbit/s video butter smooth. this would definitely not work with the n standard and especially not on 2,4Ghz. there are 10 other 2,4Ghz networks around me but on 5Ghz I'm all for myself.
Lots of Green Screen spillage on your face. Are you guys using "KeyLight" in After Effects? There is a option for Spill Suppression in there I believe.
Hey so I got that Asus PCI ac card in my PC but is it compatible with wave 2 or is it wave 1 only seeing how it only has 3 antennas. A response would be great seeing how I can't draw a cat 6 line threw multiple walls and 2 floors (in my case that is.) and can someone point me to a wave 2 device because I am searching now but can't find any.
I got confused. In the tri band vid, the 3 frequencies have one stream each. Does mu mimo mean that each frequency streams to 4 devices (or 2?) at the same time?
If you wait another couple of years wave 3 will come out and y'all have to upgrade again. I'm good with my cat6 hard wired network. Beat that wireless!!!
+SuperCookieandthecraft Its possible that the walls are the problem, but its also possible that simply too many people are using one or the other. If at all possible, look into getting an ethernet cable.
please do a as fast as possible on mobile payment Google pay,Apple pay etc. how does it work? how do I find if a store supports it? what are the benefits of mobile payment? what are the disadvantages to it? I would really like to know.
Why is the speed of wifi routers measured in Megabits whereas we measure download speeds in Megabytes, isn't the speed of the router the same as the download speed on a computer
3.5 Gb/s!? Never thought I'd see the day when wifi is faster than ethernet. ...Unless I just haven't heard of the latest ethernet update. Is ethernet still capped at 1 Gb/s or is there newer technology out there?
I'm still using 802.11A, B, G and N and I see no logical reason to upgrade beyond this for at least the next 5 years, possibly 10 and I am on a fiber connection.
this is wrong. a router does not connect to one thing at a time it depends on the amount of channel for example; my 87u has 4x4 and my phone and laptop are 2x2 meaning it can connect to both of them at the same time to be able to do 4x4 it is the same for my 2.4 which is 3x3 meaning it can be able to do 3 devices at a time so, Linus clear that up!!!
Why have we not moved to using MB/s (Megabytes) instead of mb/s megabits ? Do people just like to hear bigger numbers or something ? When we talk about video game sizes and actually most things on the PC we talk in MegaBytes so I dont get why Internet lingo is still using bits, Is it a marketing thing ? 10mbit internet sounds better than 1MByte/s I guess, anyone mind explaining ?
+Daiesthai You gotta think from a business stand point. Most ISPs know that most people can't tell the difference between the two or gets confused, as most customers just want fast and reliable service. If people were advertised that 24 Mbps was the equivalent of 2 to 3 MB/s, the product wouldn't be as valued and wanted to most people then just saying 24 Mbps, even some to believe that it means 24 MB/s. This misinformation often leads (as in the case in the US) ISPs not really having to increase speeds to the best standard, as people believe it's already pretty fast. There are still plans for 54 Mbps, which in 2008 standards, would be amazing, but in 2016, where households have an average of 15 WiFi connected devices, it's a nightmare. TWC have plans of 300 Mbps, which is cool, and Google and AT&T are rolling out 1Gbps Fiber connections, so the future is bright.
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I tried hitting the like button, now my monitor is broken.
+Plamen Yordanov My penis grown up.
+Plamen Yordanov sue him
+Plamen Yordanov Racist spotted.
+Plamen Yordanov Classic TechofTomorrow joke.
I didn't get that at first... XD
1:50 ThioJoe's channel finally got legit for tripling internet speed.
lol
omg yes.
Hard wired beats all.
Nah bruh
+UnknownUser It doesn't when you're sat on your couch trying to get comfortable and you have a 10m ethernet cable dangling across your floor, through the walls and in to a switch...
+Joe A. (RedHawk275) Up to 10 Gbit/s, no packet loss, no interference from different wifis.
Pyrofan97 ... and a long cable trailing from behind your ultrabook on which millions was spent to make it so thin, light and portable.
Well, i was talking about desktops. Of course using ethernet for a notebook wouldn't make a lot of sense.
I like how he throws in random weirdness to make sure you're listening.
So... Basically those waves are so stronk I can surf them?
1 like lol
How did I find you here?
Linus has covered every topic I can think of.
I hope the UK would start advancing its broadband technologies soon and bring all the cool stuff to the mainstream.
3:54 Subliminal Dennis. :o
I always see "AC" as alternating current so stuff like this my mind interprets as "wireless electricity". I don't know why.
Great video!
It would be great if you could do a video on the IETF RFC standards process, and how and why tech standards are created, updated and implemented.
Multiple cows.... fukin linus, man... srsly though your professional quality mixed with tongue in cheek shit like that is why I love your channles. pls dont stop.
Ok, here's the question Linus - since Wave 1 clients can't do MU-MIMO, I assume the Wave 2 access point falls back to Wave 1 for those clients. So what happens in mixed environments where let's say there are 9x Wave 2 clients and 1x Wave 1 client? Does that single Wave 1 client screw everything up for the other 9 clients every time it is its turn to talk to the AP?
and i just bought an ac wave 1 router before knowing about wave 2...
technology is like diarrhoea. when you think the spur of shit is over, nope, there's more. alot more.
Wow I think that's the best explanation of wireless technologies I have ever heard.. And for every "I" dotted and "t" crossed in 6 minutes it's pretty impressive!... hats off to ya :D
Thanks for this fast as possible techquickie about the new wireless ac 2 wave
yeah, 2.4 ghz is super crowded where I live, bought powerline to solve it (12€ on sale) and solved ping and slow downs problems :D
so much knowledge, so depressed at the same time, here in italy you can't change router at all, only use the one provided in the contract
bridging is supported only on the higher end offering, on my kind of line, which is the most common, these kind of capabilities are locked by the vendor of the internet line, you have to pay extra even to unlock the wireless capability of the modem/router provided in the contract, and to spend something like 40 euros monthly to get 7 meg down (via ethernet), yeah..it sucks
+Vittorio Sergi You can buy an Asus Router and then from your Home router a Ethernet cabel to the WAN port on the Router that you can't change, then you have highspeed WLAN
+degru5091 yes you can, connect your router to your modem via the WAN port on your modem and you're good.
Loving them green checks Linus 😂😂
why do i think all this "technology " was more than known when "wave1" was launched but it was purposedly set aside so the industry could cash on selling the same shit twice?
i get this feeling about most eletronic stuff this days.
they do it on games , holding on content , call it DLC and sell the game twice, i wouldn´t be suprised if this was the same scheme.
I cant wait to look back on this video and laugh when he says 3.5gbits as we laugh now on the 90's ads that make 500mb hdds seem huge.
i love my insanely fast 512MB windows XP computer with a 2GB HHD?
or all those computers marketed as "never obsolete"
@@LiEnby a 2gb HDD would not run xp well at all and 512mb of ram would have been a massive amount in the 2gb HDD days. My first xp computer (2002) had 128mb of ram and 40gb HDD. (1996) Win 95 64mb ram 5gb HDD. (1993) old 486 IBMwith win 3.1 had 40mb HDD and 2mb ram upgraded to 8mb. These are just the systems I used. But yeah xp reallllly likes having free HDD space to run properly. With that much ram and no free space you'll get page file issues right away. This still happens actually and is the reason I switched from a 60gb ssd to a 240gb.
I am here and now your comment makes sense...!!!
Amazing video, I had no idea A/C operated that way, time to get an A/C 2 router!
"...connect to multi cows, I mean devices!" Cracked me up right there.
One thing to note is that when using 160mhz of the spectrum and ruining your neighbour's wifi also means you're getting interference from them, thereby lowering your performance in turn. Just because there's a buffet doesn't mean you should eat everything
Wireless AC just came out? It's been 3 years! Just look how long N lasted!
this is why I love wired net....anyone else agree?
we should give the air some space :D
You said that there's been so many updates to wifi it's crazy and routers are outdated really quickly... but I would disagree. This is actually the first update to WiFi standards in a very long time that actually sounds useful. I still have a G router, and have had no reason to even consider upgrading. The bottleneck has always been my ISP. Until I live in a city with Google Fiber or something, my router is already faster than my internet connection so a "faster" router is completely pointless"
However, this update, with it's ability to better connect to more devices simultaneously, could actually be useful, so I'm pretty excited about that :)
nice droid turbo, Linus
1:43 ayyyyyy it's d-link tri-band router. I had one those.
I just bought a Netgear R7000P (2016), 15 months after purchasing a Netgear R7000 (2013). Feel somewhat stupid that I didn't notice the two different models when I purchased the first.
hey linus, you should do an episode on Error Reporting As fast as Possible. i've always wondered where my messages have gone.
What happens if you cross the streams?
+Nathaniel Graham Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
But I just upgraded to Wireless AC 2 years ago...
+DrSQUIRRELBOY12 "Wireless AC" 2 years ago or "Wireless AC 2" years ago?
+Spooder Adem It's more tone than grammar. there's no tone over the internet, so stuff like this can be misconstrued.
+Buge commas bro I am telling you, they're gonna catch on soon.
you upgraded wireless AC, 2 years ago.
Spooder Adem What did I say that was grammatically incorrect?
great explanation.
Wiresless signal clutter is why I mostly use wired networking. Wireless is useful and I'll use it when I need it but I'll stick to wired networking when I can. I drilled a hole between rooms and created my own Cat6 wall jack just so I could wire my computer to the internet instead of relying on wireless. Besides, all my devices (routers, laptops, smartphones) are still 'ye old' wireless N - I'm not about to spend a fortune replacing everything.
1:00 "Marshall, sounds like an SOS"
I don't think i will need to buy one of those anytime soon.
My local area network practically in disrepair since the beginning of June.
I was required to upgrade to a VDSL modem, and i have only plugged the computer directly into the modem until i feel like trying make rest of the network to work with the modem. (note: the modem is really a modem/router/AC combo, but i only use it as an modem)
do you think they will make a smartphone that will support all of the wi-fi bands (streams)?
Any examples of routers that support this tech? Or Smartphones?
well it's great that technology developes even further but I guess that didn't surprise anyone ^^
I for myself can say that it is worth it to upgrade to ac wave 1. i got a 3 antenna router and my phone and my smart TV have 2 antennas and i can stream 4K 100mbit/s video butter smooth. this would definitely not work with the n standard and especially not on 2,4Ghz. there are 10 other 2,4Ghz networks around me but on 5Ghz I'm all for myself.
Hi there Dennis what are your doing?!
is there a way to tell if my device is Wave 2 compatible?
Lots of Green Screen spillage on your face. Are you guys using "KeyLight" in After Effects? There is a option for Spill Suppression in there I believe.
Wireless AC Wave 2 and older has the same Range? or it expands as well?
Hey so I got that Asus PCI ac card in my PC but is it compatible with wave 2 or is it wave 1 only seeing how it only has 3 antennas. A response would be great seeing how I can't draw a cat 6 line threw multiple walls and 2 floors (in my case that is.) and can someone point me to a wave 2 device because I am searching now but can't find any.
But if I've got a triband router doesn't that mean it can already communicate with at least three devices at once?
question. Is it possible for me to connect to a work router (which is one of many interlinked hubs) and tell if it is A: dual band and B: wave 2?
I got confused. In the tri band vid, the 3 frequencies have one stream each. Does mu mimo mean that each frequency streams to 4 devices (or 2?) at the same time?
So where can I get a PCI-E adapter to give my PC this sort of connectivity?
yea our ap is the only one that has the 2.4 ghz channel on auto so no intervierence and it is the only one on 5ghz
If your Router has multiple antenna (NO MU-MIMO) then would it connect with multiple devices at the same time?
If you wait another couple of years wave 3 will come out and y'all have to upgrade again. I'm good with my cat6 hard wired network. Beat that wireless!!!
I thought this video was going to be about air conditioning.
0:05 Great Sly Stallone impression?
How do i know the one that im buying is ac wave 2? I haven't found any router saying ac wave2
Do i see it from the ac number? Such as ac2xxx?
Is there still a problem with going through walls? Because I get more range from 2.4ghz then 5ghz
+SuperCookieandthecraft Its possible that the walls are the problem, but its also possible that simply too many people are using one or the other. If at all possible, look into getting an ethernet cable.
Lower frequencies have more range than higher ones do.
chukman102 I expected as much, since if I remember physics class correctly radiation works the same way.
+Mc Rex More range, but less data. You can have a higher frequency have equal range to one that is lower, but with more power draw
Was this video posted by mistake? Maybe not because it is up on vessel as a new release instead of a 7 day exclusive.
Yeah kinda weird or it is a mistake either by youtube or them by not making it private or something
+William Bragg this is a Techquickie video not LTT
please do a as fast as possible on mobile payment Google pay,Apple pay etc.
how does it work?
how do I find if a store supports it?
what are the benefits of mobile payment?
what are the disadvantages to it?
I would really like to know.
Dennis appeared!
so why does setting your 5ghz go 160 messes up other WiFi channels?
which phone supports this? or does plan to in the near further?
Please make a video about the Corsair H110i GTX
linus could you do a video about wireless charging
+Klingon Warrior! He did
cough....brain cancer......cough
Do a video on md5sums pls :) Don't really understand it tbh
All of a sudden... I have a strong compulsion to purchase a Sham-Wow.
Thanks for this video, it was amazing!
Why is the speed of wifi routers measured in Megabits whereas we measure download speeds in Megabytes, isn't the speed of the router the same as the download speed on a computer
what if I use 2 routers? It will be same as wave 2.Right?
D-Link dir 655 same I have for home usage. 1:43
I've actually stopped trying to increase the wifi speed in my room. I'm already hitting the maximum speed in speed tests that my ISP allows.
Find Dennis in this video! :D
"So how come what you're saying be true?" - Linus Sebastian 2015
hey linus do you think you can do a pc build under $4,000
Conclusion, wait a few years to buy these routers until the standard is fully suported.
3:54 ...hi Dennis
Wow that's amazing, except my ISP only offers 5mbps up and down.
how can you achieve 3.5 gbps when you are locked to time warner or att?
Is all internet compatible with wireless ac
make a video about stock exchange as fast as possible
how would wifi ax compare to wifi ac wave 2?
Would I see the benefits of this in, say, the Steam Link?
I fell out of my chair when i saw that monitor at 4:43
that's a true ultrawide monitor lol
+MrSurvival2 I'm pretty sure that's scrolled down a bit (I don't recall even a 21:9 to look like that), fellow Rush listener (couldn't help myself).
Do QuickCharge as fast as possible, PLEASE.
Review the NETGEAR X8 Just got it. its amazingly Fast and has ridiculous range.
3.5 Gb/s!? Never thought I'd see the day when wifi is faster than ethernet.
...Unless I just haven't heard of the latest ethernet update. Is ethernet still capped at 1 Gb/s or is there newer technology out there?
100gb/s is the cap on Ethernet I think
I'm still using 802.11A, B, G and N and I see no logical reason to upgrade beyond this for at least the next 5 years, possibly 10 and I am on a fiber connection.
That moment when you just bought a Netgear AC 1750 wireless modem 2 weeks ago.
can you make a video for sli titan z plz ??
+DarBuka MaSter why would he? titan zs are not only terrible in all respects, they are also a generation old at this point.
Stop using IE
Clearly trolling
So what are the caveats?
*cue neighbors banging on my door complaining I am clogging up their wifi*
does iphone 7 have wave 2 ?? I guess it is better wait till 2020.
y!
awesome video as usual :)
this is wrong. a router does not connect to one thing at a time it depends on the amount of channel for example; my 87u has 4x4 and my phone and laptop are 2x2 meaning it can connect to both of them at the same time to be able to do 4x4 it is the same for my 2.4 which is 3x3 meaning it can be able to do 3 devices at a time so, Linus clear that up!!!
No, it will still be SU-MIMO..
sooooo . . . more antennas?
Why "AC". What does "AC" stand for?
wireless ac-130 world war 3
My router only has 2 antennas. What does that mean?
That it has 2 antennas....
+NavyBurger™ It means it was built with two antennas. Crazy, right?
+NavyBurger™ Your router has more antennae than you.
Adult male routers have two antennae, juvenile males and females only have one antenna, that's how you tell them apart
+Matt Willoughby i have no antennas, its just a default router from century link.
Why have we not moved to using MB/s (Megabytes) instead of mb/s megabits ? Do people just like to hear bigger numbers or something ? When we talk about video game sizes and actually most things on the PC we talk in MegaBytes so I dont get why Internet lingo is still using bits, Is it a marketing thing ? 10mbit internet sounds better than 1MByte/s I guess, anyone mind explaining ?
+Daiesthai mb/s would be microbits/second, no?
+Daiesthai You gotta think from a business stand point. Most ISPs know that most people can't tell the difference between the two or gets confused, as most customers just want fast and reliable service. If people were advertised that 24 Mbps was the equivalent of 2 to 3 MB/s, the product wouldn't be as valued and wanted to most people then just saying 24 Mbps, even some to believe that it means 24 MB/s. This misinformation often leads (as in the case in the US) ISPs not really having to increase speeds to the best standard, as people believe it's already pretty fast. There are still plans for 54 Mbps, which in 2008 standards, would be amazing, but in 2016, where households have an average of 15 WiFi connected devices, it's a nightmare. TWC have plans of 300 Mbps, which is cool, and Google and AT&T are rolling out 1Gbps Fiber connections, so the future is bright.
ImPacMan2321
...which DOES mean mb would be MICRObits (which doesn't really exist, but you get the idea)? :)
could someone recommend a great dsl modem router?
I thought this was about wireless alternating current (electricity).
what really happen if your delete system32 on your computer
thanks