What a truly strange vehicle. Still, props to Honda for being willing to explore something new. It was interesting to see that flip up back rest. Thanks for showing us the ride!
renegadebiker24 Hi, Thanks! Actually I have ridden it. I even have a video, but somehow I forgot to edit it. I loved the bike, I really did, one of the best bikes I've ridden. Cruiser with sporttourer power, loved it.
iSlander You are Welcome. :) Great. That sucks that you were not able to edit it. Do you think you might do another review of it to post it on youtube? I do love the bike. To me, it is like a combination of a sportbike, touring bike with a cruiser, along with a pretty safe motorcycle with the ABS and Traction Control. I have over 2,000 miles on mine. What surprises me, is there is not a review by Motorcycle.com in their shootouts here on youtube. Do you think you would ever buy it over the NM4? I thought about eventually getting the NM4 as a second bike, but I think I might get a sport bike or a Harley Softail.
I will edit it after my "Hiiumaa trip" videos. I actually don't own a NM4, I do have a NC700X. NM4 was a testride bike and I didn't actually plan to ride it. My plan was to ride CB650F and VFR1200XD, but they weren't in, so I took NM4 :D I totally agree with you about CTX1300. Awesome V4 engine etc.
iSlander Cool. I look forward to seeing it. Yeah it is an awesome V4 engine too, and I am amazed that it starts in cold weather as well. I look forward to seeing those videos. I am uploading a video now that shows a Gas station cat that wanted to go for a ride on my motorcycle Thursday early morning while I was heading home from work, and getting home so I can get up in a little while to go to school. I am trying to get a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration.
inagod Thanks! Yep Estonia. English-speaking people have no problem here, elderly people might not speak English, but younger do. I actually did another video about this.
I'm going to put white flashing strobes,this way if someone is puling out,you can turn them on to get there attention,headlights do not work,people still don't see motorcycles.In American,people drive into big yellow school buses,yes really !!! Now they have white strobe lights on them,accidents have been reduced to very few.White strobes,can save lives.
It would be more interesting if you tried to continue explaining the features of the bike and what you like and what you don't like about it. We need more details. It is such a long video, but there are few comments. thanks.
cynic150 Well, as may or may not have noticed, but I didn't know anything about the bike, since it wasn't the bike I wanted to test-ride. I went to test-ride couple of other bikes, but they were out, so I took this one instead. So I'm sorry for not knowing anything about the bike... It wasn't a review.
Hey +iSlander , great review. I always wondered what it is like to ride it. Have you ridden the bike I have, a 2014 Honda CTX 1300 Deluxe? Maybe that should be your next review, huh? LOL :)
What an interesting beast. Not for me either. Back rest is pretty cool. Oh when ya hit the gravel my heart skipped a beat. Half expected it to take flight like a Judge (Dredd) bike.
The gravel part wasn't bad at all, I was surprised too! Yep, Backrest is cool idea. But you can't lower it without stopping if its too high. Thanks for the view :)
revtune I'm not that familiar with Japanese anime/manga etc. But googled Tetsuo and found a video about it. This design is for Asia and for younger people I guess (not that I'm that old...) :D
vac0002 People will not "not notice" you. I'm too tall for that bike, but in the Augustibluus (concert where Steven Seagal was invited and then invitation was canceled) I saw few guys where were short enough and bike was perfect for them.
At least it doesn't look like a mare mule in heat with its back fender looking at the stars. I always thought a fender was to keep company to the wheel. Oh well, I have been wrong before.
***** Well, if you add panniers (it looks better with panniers) then maybe. It does have good low-end torque and fuel consumption. 3.5 was turning my test :)
I wish they'd design a bike with an anime style, but that has balls. The problem is that bike manufacturers don't want to move too far from the status quo, and to 'do' an anime bike properly you have to rethink the concept of a motorcycle quite a lot. Give it 1000-1400cc, recline the position more, or move it forward like a traditional racer position, extend the cowl to lower the wind blast, make the rear and the bottom larger so it isn't disproportionate and top-heavy. Keep a racing ethos as opposed to a cruiser ethos (think Hyabusa). This is an interesting experiment, but I worry that it will relegate 'anime' style bikes to granny scooters and concepts, instead of anyone making a real attempt at it.
Restayvien Like the dealer said: another bike that looks mean but has almost no engine to speak of. The same engine is really good with NC series, but for that look, it should be something better.
Hi iSlander, Just curious what is out the door price that you got for 2014 Honda NM4? I saw the price MSRP quote as $10,999 but the dealer didn't give much discount based on MSRP. What would be a fair price for Out the door on this bike? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
+phantomcruizer They were a lot better than I first thought when I saw them. Not as good as mirrors that are above handlebars, but they do their job well.
Why chain driven? maybe Honda will go with shaft if this model sells well, honestly would have thought that Honda would have gone with shaft on such a futuristic looking bike, do we all really want to be wasting our time cleaning and maintaining chains in the future? I know I don't. Only my opinion. ps. what's so weird?
Paul Osler I agree, I don't like its chain driven either. I'm too tall for the bike, the seating position was weird and I certainly did get some looks while riding this. People were wondering what I was riding :D
as a curiosity (hope nobody asked this before) how does it decelerate? can you use a engine brake? how are the brakes? I have never ridden something with a auto gearbox. this concept where the bike changes the gears is just odd, why give the machine this decision when you are the one that should do it.
Alexandru Dalak You can use engine brake, no problem at all. Brakes are OK, but could be better. I've tried Hondas DCT couple of times and I really like it, especially in town
***** If that question was meant for me, then I didn't say its weird bike because of the gearbox, it was weird how it handled, its not a really good slow-speed handling bike.
iSlander i think he directed that qn towards dalak, dalak have u not driven any auto vehicles before? just press on the brakes, auto and manual works the same except for clutch
Alexandru Dalak You can use engine brake with DCT too. Automatic gearbox on bikes isn't common almost anywhere, because there are so few bikes with it.
It's basically a scooter that Honda is probably going to try to market as a Crossover. 26C is not? LOL sometimes our low temp doesn't' reach that in the summer.
***** I was in Italy about 8 years ago and spring low was around 26c, it was so cold there, but here its so hot. Reason is simple, humidity. This is like scooter yes. Some scooter clients were interested in it.
Ian Green The bike felt weird, not like any normal cruisers. For me, it was too small, For low speeds, it wasn't what I expected. And PS!: weird /wɪəd/ adjective 1. suggestive of or relating to the supernatural; eerie 2. strange or bizarre 3. (archaic) of or relating to fate or the Fates
OMFG just when I thought Honda designers couldn't make an uglier bike they prove me wrong, that has to be the UGLIEST motorcycle ever produced bar none
There we differ. This thing looks...different. THAT is why I want one! Depends on what kind of deal I can make, if it doesn't ride well I won't have it, but it would freak out a lot of people.
Mike McKraut it is much more economical due to its much better aerodynamics,seat height,etc I would love to see some enclosed Monotracer type Hondas.35 -45 mpg when we could be getting 150 mpg 200 mpg USA,almost 1 liter per 100Km
Best review of the NM4. You're initial impression: WTF? Then it mostly won you over. Real time emotions. Love it.
What a truly strange vehicle. Still, props to Honda for being willing to explore something new. It was interesting to see that flip up back rest. Thanks for showing us the ride!
SoopaBee I did another test-ride with it, but haven't edited the footage yet. That backrest is very comfortable :)
renegadebiker24 Hi, Thanks! Actually I have ridden it. I even have a video, but somehow I forgot to edit it. I loved the bike, I really did, one of the best bikes I've ridden. Cruiser with sporttourer power, loved it.
iSlander You are Welcome. :) Great. That sucks that you were not able to edit it. Do you think you might do another review of it to post it on youtube? I do love the bike. To me, it is like a combination of a sportbike, touring bike with a cruiser, along with a pretty safe motorcycle with the ABS and Traction Control. I have over 2,000 miles on mine. What surprises me, is there is not a review by Motorcycle.com in their shootouts here on youtube. Do you think you would ever buy it over the NM4? I thought about eventually getting the NM4 as a second bike, but I think I might get a sport bike or a Harley Softail.
I will edit it after my "Hiiumaa trip" videos.
I actually don't own a NM4, I do have a NC700X. NM4 was a testride bike and I didn't actually plan to ride it. My plan was to ride CB650F and VFR1200XD, but they weren't in, so I took NM4 :D
I totally agree with you about CTX1300. Awesome V4 engine etc.
iSlander Cool. I look forward to seeing it. Yeah it is an awesome V4 engine too, and I am amazed that it starts in cold weather as well. I look forward to seeing those videos. I am uploading a video now that shows a Gas station cat that wanted to go for a ride on my motorcycle Thursday early morning while I was heading home from work, and getting home so I can get up in a little while to go to school. I am trying to get a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration.
Nice! I want to see the video now :D
inagod Thanks! Yep Estonia. English-speaking people have no problem here, elderly people might not speak English, but younger do. I actually did another video about this.
I am highly considering this as my next cruiser!
I'm going to put white flashing strobes,this way if someone is puling out,you can turn them on to get there attention,headlights do not work,people still don't see motorcycles.In American,people drive into big yellow school buses,yes really !!! Now they have white strobe lights on them,accidents have been reduced to very few.White strobes,can save lives.
It would be more interesting if you tried to continue explaining the features of the bike and what you like and what you don't like about it. We need more details. It is such a long video, but there are few comments. thanks.
cynic150 Well, as may or may not have noticed, but I didn't know anything about the bike, since it wasn't the bike I wanted to test-ride. I went to test-ride couple of other bikes, but they were out, so I took this one instead. So I'm sorry for not knowing anything about the bike... It wasn't a review.
i really like how you do your videos that is why i just subcribed...keep it up!
***** Thanks! I'll do my best :)
Thanks for reviewing. Wow, this really looks like parts of the U.S.
I know :d
i love my nm4
It looks good!
Hey +iSlander , great review. I always wondered what it is like to ride it. Have you ridden the bike I have, a 2014 Honda CTX 1300 Deluxe? Maybe that should be your next review, huh? LOL :)
What an interesting beast. Not for me either. Back rest is pretty cool. Oh when ya hit the gravel my heart skipped a beat. Half expected it to take flight like a Judge (Dredd) bike.
The gravel part wasn't bad at all, I was surprised too! Yep, Backrest is cool idea. But you can't lower it without stopping if its too high.
Thanks for the view :)
No worries. It was a long vid but I enjoy seeing ya city and hearing ya chat away. Especially when ya get a bit cranky at the traffic.
Other test-ride videos will be episodic. Keeps the audience :D
Beautiful country,looks like a American highway.Estonia?lots of english speaking people?
Every time I see this bike I see Kaneda yelling TETSUO!!!
revtune I'm not that familiar with Japanese anime/manga etc. But googled Tetsuo and found a video about it.
This design is for Asia and for younger people I guess (not that I'm that old...) :D
+iSlander Yeah the bike from the anime Akira is what he's referring to I believe.
It is a different looking bike. It's actually weird enough that I like it. :)
vac0002 People will not "not notice" you. I'm too tall for that bike, but in the Augustibluus (concert where Steven Seagal was invited and then invitation was canceled) I saw few guys where were short enough and bike was perfect for them.
At least it doesn't look like a mare mule in heat with its back fender looking at the stars. I always thought a fender was to keep company to the wheel. Oh well, I have been wrong before.
Seems like it is very practical. Actually i like how this looks like :)
But yes it`s weird.
***** Well, if you add panniers (it looks better with panniers) then maybe. It does have good low-end torque and fuel consumption. 3.5 was turning my test :)
I wish they'd design a bike with an anime style, but that has balls. The problem is that bike manufacturers don't want to move too far from the status quo, and to 'do' an anime bike properly you have to rethink the concept of a motorcycle quite a lot.
Give it 1000-1400cc, recline the position more, or move it forward like a traditional racer position, extend the cowl to lower the wind blast, make the rear and the bottom larger so it isn't disproportionate and top-heavy. Keep a racing ethos as opposed to a cruiser ethos (think Hyabusa).
This is an interesting experiment, but I worry that it will relegate 'anime' style bikes to granny scooters and concepts, instead of anyone making a real attempt at it.
Restayvien Like the dealer said: another bike that looks mean but has almost no engine to speak of. The same engine is really good with NC series, but for that look, it should be something better.
Hi iSlander,
Just curious what is out the door price that you got for 2014 Honda NM4? I saw the price MSRP quote as $10,999 but the dealer didn't give much discount based on MSRP. What would be a fair price for Out the door on this bike? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Tina Le Here its 11500€, so a lot more expensive
Just give it like 12-15 months and the price will have dropped a bit
***** Its illegal to go 150kph here. I could get 160 out of my NC, so this could go over 150 I guess, it has bigger engine than my NC.
***** I wanted to test-ride z1000 too, but Kawasaki doesn't offer test rides...
You should wait awhile, Honda dealers will probably be giving these bikes away this time next year!
How were the mirrors?
+phantomcruizer They were a lot better than I first thought when I saw them. Not as good as mirrors that are above handlebars, but they do their job well.
+iSlander Thank you for your reply
have anyone noticed, that biker was trying to pull the imaginary clutch first time when he rode? 00:20
shopnoraj Haah, didn't even notice myself :D
I've ridden DCT many times before. VFR1200XD, VFR1200FD, NC750XD and then this one (NC750J)
that what i do regularly, especially when i move from manual transmission car to auto, with my left foot...:P
shopnoraj I accidentally used my right foot on the clutch today when I want to start my fathers car :D So yeah, happens :D
Why chain driven? maybe Honda will go with shaft if this model sells well, honestly would have thought that Honda would have gone with shaft on such a futuristic looking bike, do we all really want to be wasting our time cleaning and maintaining chains in the future? I know I don't. Only my opinion. ps. what's so weird?
Paul Osler I agree, I don't like its chain driven either.
I'm too tall for the bike, the seating position was weird and I certainly did get some looks while riding this. People were wondering what I was riding :D
Yeah it will probably be hit or miss whether people will take to this style bike, good review though, many thanks. Stay safe.
Paul Osler Might be that Honda made it just because they could and if it sells, good, but if not, then no problem either.
Thanks!
Thanks for the video, but you seem to be the one that like this bike least of the rest. None the less thanks for the effort
+JoTokutora Can't please everyone :)
perfectly fine. Good work.
as a curiosity (hope nobody asked this before) how does it decelerate? can you use a engine brake? how are the brakes? I have never ridden something with a auto gearbox.
this concept where the bike changes the gears is just odd, why give the machine this decision when you are the one that should do it.
Alexandru Dalak You can use engine brake, no problem at all. Brakes are OK, but could be better.
I've tried Hondas DCT couple of times and I really like it, especially in town
***** If that question was meant for me, then I didn't say its weird bike because of the gearbox, it was weird how it handled, its not a really good slow-speed handling bike.
iSlander i think he directed that qn towards dalak, dalak have u not driven any auto vehicles before? just press on the brakes, auto and manual works the same except for clutch
I am in Europe and automatic gearbox is not something very common here. I sometime use engine brake instead of back brake.
Alexandru Dalak You can use engine brake with DCT too.
Automatic gearbox on bikes isn't common almost anywhere, because there are so few bikes with it.
That's really weird looking bike. How is handling..
dbest1a Weird in low speeds, felt like it want's to drop, normal at city speeds and no windprotection at highway speeds.
It's basically a scooter that Honda is probably going to try to market as a Crossover.
26C is not? LOL sometimes our low temp doesn't' reach that in the summer.
***** I was in Italy about 8 years ago and spring low was around 26c, it was so cold there, but here its so hot. Reason is simple, humidity.
This is like scooter yes. Some scooter clients were interested in it.
whats weird,you used the word about10 times
Ian Green The bike felt weird, not like any normal cruisers. For me, it was too small, For low speeds, it wasn't what I expected.
And PS!:
weird
/wɪəd/
adjective
1.
suggestive of or relating to the supernatural; eerie
2.
strange or bizarre
3.
(archaic) of or relating to fate or the Fates
***** I'm in Estonia, Northern Europe.
Thanks!
not batman style, search Akira anime.
Deiby Lopez I know. I think I even mentioned it in the video :)
Also, it has been mentioned many times in comments.
I like your accent
Where are you from?
Albin Lindström Estonia :)
It's a Judge Dredd style bike....
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OMFG just when I thought Honda designers couldn't make an uglier bike they prove me wrong, that has to be the UGLIEST motorcycle ever produced bar none
and sadly...i would buy it because of it.
*****
thats what makes the world go round mate we are all individuals
*****
your jokin right?!!!? I mean no one could seriously sit there and say that with a straight face
Yeah ...there too much Manga in this bike
There we differ. This thing looks...different. THAT is why I want one! Depends on what kind of deal I can make, if it doesn't ride well I won't have it, but it would freak out a lot of people.
che prova inutile!!!
This is by far the most hideous bike I have ever seen. This is just pure vomit. Who would ride this crap?
that would be me because YOU ARE A BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!
Well, that sentence made sense.
Mike McKraut it is much more economical due to its much better aerodynamics,seat height,etc I would love to see some enclosed Monotracer type Hondas.35 -45 mpg when we could be getting 150 mpg 200 mpg USA,almost 1 liter per 100Km