THE VAILE MANSION: HIDDEN SECRETS
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2015
- The Vaile Mansion in Independence MO.
This is a long video involving the history and rumors surrounding the Victorian Mansion in Independence, Missouri.
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As the person that was actually responsible for the restoration of the Vaile Mansion from 1984 to 1995, or pretty much as you see it today inside and out, allot of this is true, some of it is hog wash. I also oversaw the restoration of the Bingham Waggoner Estate in Independence, MO as well, and saved many other historical structures in town, administered the Harry S. Truman historic district and worked with our city manager hand in hand to bring the National Frontier Trail Center into a reality. The Vaile Mansion was a nursing home and asylum. It was also basically destroyed when the city bought it for restoration. Yes, I know the room where lobotomies took place. And, being on call 24-7-365 I have been in the mansion alone at all hours of the day and night. I have been in the basement so many times I can't tell you and there were no cages or proof of cages. I actually had the carpenter that was helping in the restoration working out of the basement the last several years.The basement was originally used as storage for fruit from the orchard, coal (the mansion has 9 fire places, all coal burning) and other essentials used by staff and the family. I won't bother you with the extensive process of restoring the mansion other than to say it was a work of love. The third floor is actually used for storage. In addition, the "face" room is on the second floor directly above the front porch (we restored both the porch and the room configured to its original condition based on physical and photographic evidence. The porch was changed in 1928 and the original paint scheme applied). I have been in the mansion at the most precarious of times. I actually stayed in the mansion on some Halloween nights to protect if from vandalism. Because the mansion is completely constructed of genuine northern white pine (which is not available anymore due to the forests being wiped out), with the exception of the kitchen floor which is southern yellow pine and the main staircase which is walnut, the house creaks and groans greatly in the spring and fall months. Enough to spook about anyone I would imagine, but I was used to it. I never saw an aspiration, heard voices or any of that nonsense. Its a creaky old house that is almost 60 feet tall built in pine and on top of a stone foundation. It has a character of its own. LOL. The property was originally much bigger with a lake, lake house, vineyard and wind cellar, and a coy pond. Not to mention wild peacocks running freely about the grounds. The Vaile Society takes care of the mansion now and the city still owns it. You can tour it normally from April to October and during Christmas. Its a lovely treat for those that appreciate older architecture presented in its original form. But, don't be scared. There are no ghosts. Or are there?
Frank, thanks for taking the time to add some first-person details on this house.
You are most welcome. Your video was well done and I meant no offense. We used to have around 100 volunteers that showed the mansion and when I had time I would join a group or listen and the stories they told and even with some very specific handbooks for them the stories were invariably different. Chuckle. Its okay. They loved the house and the experience and we had a terrific volunteer coordinator Evelyn Ellis. And of course the volunteers themselves were terrific. Our city manager, Bill Bullard, was really responsible for obtaining all of the city's historic buildings and I had the time of my life restoring them. He was kind enough to give me a free hand in doing so. I'm very proud of the work that we did and also the members of the society that raised money to help buy furniture and period pieces to decorate the place. We were also very fortunate to have a fifth generation craftsman painter, Walt Monroe, to restore the woodwork and the busty fresco in the parlor. and a master carpenter Martin Hunter to work on the outside. To all our dismay, both have passed on. Plus an architectural historian, David Arbogast, who helped me immensely with the microscopic paint analysis for both the inside and outside of the mansion. It wasn't about the money (thank God) it was about the love of keeping our history alive. Thanks for the nice comment.
Thanks for the compliment on the video. I appreciate that. And thanks for adding your details on the work you did on it.
yes there are spirits. I'm sure they are still there.
Koi pond. Sorry, but thank you for your insight.
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I went there today. When I was on the second floor it felt like I couldn't breathe. It's definitely got a spooky feeling to it.
Thank you for watching. I've heard there are spirits still haunting the place.
This was the first time I’ve ever heard this story. Thanks for such a nice presentation!
Thanks so much for the kind comment, Amy. I'm happy you enjoyed it.
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Very interesting, if those walls could talk ... well done Magnum.
Thanks hazman. I appreciate you watching it.
I'm a history junkie and could listen to stories like this all day :)
Thank you for sharing this awesome video. I found it to be most interesting and wish there was more information available on Independence. The tour of this mansion is fantastic, but of course they don't dwell on the hidden secrets that lie within. I walked by this building to and from school for many years as I was growing up and it always fascinated me. It's hard for me to believe that someone hasn't written a book about its history, and only discovered your video today. There seems to be a lot amiss in Independence today for a town that has such a rich history.
Awesome Video. I've lived in Independence since 2003 and have never visited the Mansion. I watched the whole video and gave my girlfriend (who was watching tv) all the highlights. We're both amazed of the history. Def taking a tour soon. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment. It's a very interesting place to visit, but they won't let you go down to the basement. All of the tour guides will deny a lot of the things that are mentioned in this video, especially the mental hospital days with the lobotomies and other "experiments."
@@MagnumVideos These comments were written 5 years ago I hope things have improved in that regard now?
My Dad & I went to Independence in 1985 to visit my brother who lived there. We visited the Vail mansion but it was closed due to construction. We were told to come back in a few weeks.We told the lady we were from Baltimore so she let us in to look around in some of the rooms. It was really beautiful but we only saw the main floor & a few rooms upstairs. We couldn’t go in them just looked from the hallway. It really did have an eerie feeling inside. I’ve always wanted to go back. The history intriguing.
A completely intriguing documentary on a very worthy subject. Nice job ! Thanks for the time and effort you took with this "grand old ghost"
You amaze me ZZ. This is one of the most informative documentaries I have ever seen. You put it together very well my friend. This is truly a place to visit. Thanks for the tour. Aieee!
Thank you so much Chef. I appreciate your kind words.
Thank you for sharing this video. What a gorgeous home this is. Kudos to the couple who were able to save it from destruction. I am hoping to get there one day for a tour. :)
Carol Mitchell..I know what you mean. Good thing the mansion wasn’t located in California or it would have been demolished a long time ago which would have been a shame.
This was very interesting, thank you. Especially for someone who can't quite get there to visit in person, yet.
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
She suffered stomach cancer. It had to be painful for Sophia.
so glad to hear you with no filthy language like abandoned house hunters use! thank you.
Thank you very much.
Fuck an a bubba
Thank-you Magnum! The 3rd floor may contain prison like cells, pre chemical restraint, cold water and other 'treatments' were used. Basements are traditionally morgues. Late ''60s as a teenager I worked one summer at a mental hospital. The blue and disorientated faces of 'Shock Treatment' Tuesdays and Thursdays... the wing with locked and bared doors...
Thanks for the comment and the great info.
Thats horrible, those poor people!
They are actually pretty open about its history. Check it out sometime! It’s gorgeous. But also kind of Erie too.
I loved this video! Thank you for the time it took you. We were here 3 nights ago for the Christmas Champagne tour. The staff have sooo many stories. And i have amazing pictures! Love your documentary. Well done!
Thank you so much. I'm happy you enjoyed it.
Loved the history. Love this house. Thank you 💖
I grew up near the mansion and I never knew it had such a rich and dark history. The ghost stories were told more often then the history
Thanks for watching, Shannon. And for your comment.
Great production!..I watched the whole thing!
Thanks for watching, Albatross497. It's the longest video I ever made. I appreciate you sticking with it.
Just there today for a Christmas time visit! Very beautiful!!
Great! Thanks for the comment.
Yep, also adding what a nice presentation this was. Thank you.
I love the history thank you for sharing 🇨🇦❤️
VERY WELL DONE BRO!!! Great stuff!
Thanks, SFFG859. I appreciate you watching it! It looks like you LIKED it, too. Thanks again.
*****
I mash that like button on every video I watch! That's how I roll! LOL Before I ever watch the video I "Like" it.
I like this video so much, I just watched it again!!
Rose Broadway Thank you so much!
I GREW UP TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM VAIL MANSION AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. THERE IS SOMETHING OFF ABOUT THAT PLACE.
Great video ,and very informative .
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment.
Well done Magnum.
Nicely done!
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching it. It was fun to do.
A Paranormal group needs to do an overnighter in this mansion....maybe then we will know even more. Thanks for sharing...
I'd love to see that happen.
@@MagnumVideos Me too my friend.
@@MagnumVideosit has hasn’t it ?
Yes it has happened.
This was great!
Very neat video! I lived across the street from the time I was born until I was about 7. Very thankful I knew nothing of he supposed hauntings!
this is great work sir
Thank you so much, Jim Knox. I appreciate you watching it.
Independence is my hometown. My father is an RLDS elder and he was chaplain at the Cable Rest Home, which is what Vaile Mansion was operated as before its restoration. If I remember correctly, his chaplaincy lasted from approximately 1978 until the mansion changed hands to be restored in around 1981. I know for sure it was the early 1980s before the nursing home closed. I used to go there and sing for the residents at Christmas. The home was run during those years by a couple named David and Gladys Binger. I found David Binger's obituary here: www.speakschapel.com/book-of-memories/100720/binger-david-vernon/obituary.php
I am not sure what happened between 1960 and 1978, but I give you my word that the mansion was still a nursing home clear through the 1970s.
She was taking the medicine for stomach cancer, get the facts right man for god sake.
Great video ...Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching it! Glad you liked it.
Nice One Bro!
Thank you, brother. I appreciate your support.
I just toured Vaile mansion yesterday, Beautiful!!
I just watched the tour & history of the Vaile Mansion & then I came acrossed your video on this mansion.
I loved what you presented in your video. It was more in-depth in history that wasn't told in the 1st video I watched.
I wondered if there was a Haunted👻History to this house, from Mrs. Vaile's death in the house to All the other people who died in the house over the years & their souls reside in this mansion.
...You definitely answered what I was thinking about the Haunted👻History of the Vaile Mansion.
Thx for sharing this Awesome Video.
Fantastic video.
Thank you so much!
I would love to live there!!
Beautiful property Lovely garden WOW gorgeous house
This MANSION is beautiful on the inside and out. Pictures do NOT justify the Vaile Mansion. It's even prettier in person!
+Mikayla Whitaker Thanks for your comment. I agree with you. It is a beautiful place.
+Magnum I just went there, I was so surprised that most of their furniture like the shutters and linen and drapes were original with the home. I would love to go there again!
Mikayla Whitaker ikr
Shudders yes, the rest no. A very few pieces of furniture.
I used to live around the corner from it... I would always sit at the big fountain when I wasnt in the best mood... I miss it😔
Love the story of Harvey and Sophie how he bought her a beautiful home although briefly lived together in their mansion.
Thank you for this wonderful documentary that includes the entire history of this couple who found their true love in each other. Beautiful mansion indeed! As a victim of jealousies and vindictiveness from others throughout our courtship & married life with no children ourselves, my heart goes out to the Vailes. Nice to know that God is aware of everything and He will make things right in the end. At least this beautiful place has been restored for all of us to marvel over it. ❤️🙏🏻✨⭐️🌹
Does anyone know if blueprints exist for this house? I'd love to get my hands on copies of the blueprints. I'm a technical illustrator and would love to draw this thing.
Reach out to the city of Independence MO
I have been to the mansion many times. I am curious about the Vaile's previous residences & if they still exist.
Thanks for the comment.
i was born in Poplar Bluff we left in 45 for Idaho not been back since a child but would love to go and see that house. age and health are against it tho.
What about the underground tunnels?
I'm glad I find this video right after I come back from there......haunted!？Make it even cooler.
I'm glad you visited and glad you watched my video. Thanks the comment.
The staff there does acknowledge it was once a mental asylum and that patients were mistreated, but they do downplay it when talking about the mansions history.
my favorite rooms in there is the blue room and the carvings in that one room, the woodwork room
This was so well done, very interesting. I wish there was access to Harvey's little room with the faces. There is a light on the third floor in one of the shots, wonder why. Just a creepy place. I don't understand why they wouldn't want the paranormal "stigma." It would increase their popularity so much.
Thank you so much, Patricia. I appreciate your kind words. I agree with you about the paranormal aspect. Lots of people look for that type of place.
i just watched another video here made by the volunteers who show people around the house, and the painted faces are definately mentioned in one of the rooms. they are not a secret.
We were here 3 nights ago. You definitely get to see the "smoking room" with the faces in the wood. Fascinating.
I thought some of you might enjoy this one.
Great video. I’m going there this weekend at like 2am for a haunted tour. Has anyone done this?
Going there tomorrow night!
I hope you enjoy it.
I would love to hear your opinion on this video. Thank you.
I’ve been in the Vaile basement. It’s like a cellar. Nothing to see however I haven’t been to the top of the house. That’s what I’m most curious about.
I know a guy that lives across the street from this mansion.
We were just talking about this place at work.
my home town right here....i lived walking distance from here right around the square
What are the sources though?
It's haunted with that history.
this is also walking distance from harry s truman's house..and truman library on 24 hwy
Thanks for the comment!
it is not withing walking distance unless youre talking about a good 2 mile walk... to truman house, to truman library its probably a good 15 minute walk,
I enjoy it
Thanks for watching it.
I live in Independence mo.and I been pass this place .no there is a lot of haunted places here in independence mo
Thanks for watching it, Sam.
I live super close to it
what evil lives on the third floor that no one has dared set foot?
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Well was I ever impressed with your account of this historic place, Magnum. A lot of people these days cannot understand the reasoning behind building such hugeness for just one family, regardless of friends/family visitors. It is important to show that centuries old respect and desire for acceptance at socially higher levels were die hard parts of the consciousnesses of those who could escape European aristocratic oppression during the new age of industry. The consciousness has lived on, almost like a part of the DNA, in the poor, middle and rich who could see success, despite examples of the gross demise and abandonment that awaited such huge structures, apparent from as early as 1880, as your work has shown. The latest example of Prince's death alone amidst his sprawling estate exemplifies this die hard mentality.
+Karrenola Thanks for your comment. I appreciate your input and your thoughts. Thanks also for watching it. It was a fun video to do. And I agree with the points you made.
i live by this place
Have you seen anything strange?
where were theVails Buried at??
Nice job on the documentary Michael! Not a place I would consider sleeping in for the night...nope! Also seems like a great place to base a horror movie on. Even the outside view of the place is creepy looking. One question...I somehow missed out why Harvey was on trial...what was his crime? I backed up the video but still did not hear the crime. 5 stars!
He was charged with Mail Fraud associated with the Star Route contract that he had with the United State Postal Service. This was actually the work of the scoundrels he worked for who had cooked the books. He was exonerated and found not guilty in the end.
And thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you watching it. I've driven past it several times as a kid (with my parents). It's located not too far from where I grew up.
***** Enjoyed...definitely interesting!
There has to be friendly spirits, everyone is looking for creepy and evil.
This video needs redone
Not accurate I the description of the room with the bay window
I was there.
Very cool. I hope you enjoyed it.
Casually I could walk there from my house. -_-
Have you ever seen anything strange on the grounds at night?
@@MagnumVideos I have seen some figures in the windows before, but that was a few years ago.
@@0lexie_marie037 It's midnight here and you just freaked me out.
1983; the year I was born
Whatever happened to their son ?. I don't remember if, or what was said about him. Heard his name, but, nothing else.
You got me. I don't remember them having a son. It's been a while since I watched this video. Did I mention a son in it?
Thought you said that, but maybe not👍
"Their lives were happy and golden"...ummm, except that they were snubbed by society because of a nude fresco....and her death (after less than a year of "sublime happiness in her new home) was considered to be due to an accidental overdose of the drug she had been using to combat her depression....eh ? Doesn't sound too happy to me !
No means no more than once
Magnificent Mansion, but I bet the house is Haunted as all get out. Seems like it had a curse from the very beginning. Funny, when I watched the house tour video, I thought the faces in the tower room looked like trapped souls...spooky. If the Vaile society refute the ghost stories, that makes me feel like it must be definitely haunted. The cruel and inhumane treatment of the patients and the bad luck of every owner has to have left a very negative energy in this house. You can see it from the outside, even though the house is magnificent.
Onggg
Hidden ? Is this a good thing ?
i was born in Poplar Bluff we left in 45 for Idaho not been back since a child but would love to go and see that house. age and health are against it tho.