YES!!! Yes, yes, yes! I've planned and dreamt of doing this since 'Tech Ingredients' did "World's Best Speaker" video five years ago, but typical for me I made everything so intricate and complicated that I couldn't face actually doing it or the possibility that it wouldn't work. The way you've done it is so neat and brilliant!
@@BeauregardHall If you can get a volume pedal going to this thing then you could use a pedal to recreate the control you have in front of a loud stack where you tilt your guitar to get just the right amount of feedback
@@cubesandpi yeah - BUT so here's where it can get messy - I'd either need a volume pedal that can handle full-electricity (ohms? watts?) of power coming from the amp to the speaker, OR, I'd need to split the signal and run more cables just to the volume pedal in front of a second amp. I DO agree though, there needs to be a way to control how much volume is pumping into the speaker so you get a subtle slow build, or a chaos amp-exploding thing. Great suggestion.
@@cubesandpi you might be interested in the sustainiac electroacoustic sustainers..they are built on this concept with some nice refinements (the old model A was actually parastically powered off the speaker) the model C had an fx loop for exactly that kind of external control (volume , EQ on the drive signal...HINT : try a wah)
This made me run down the internet rabbit hole, and I guess Sustainiac did something very similar called the Sustain-Man. Basically it had a small power amp on the body and the speaker on the headstock. So I played around with a cheap amp plug I had laying around and a cable splitter to hook up to both the amp and amp plug and it worked like a dream. A cheap maybe $60 tops sustainiac and I’m really digging it.
There you go! Yes. I've been messing around lately with a bluetooth speaker - compact but bass heavy. It would work if I could figure out how to run a line directly into it instead of bluetooth's delay.
I think this works better mounted to the headstock than the body, at least when not playing on the higher frets, because there's less mass to move. Also fewer unexpected body resonances that might kill particular frequencies. Also with a normal guitar setup you'd get stronger feedback by simply touching the speaker cab with the headstock or neck.
i love your vibe, thank you and i’m definitely gonna be doing this- thinking of using a mooer micro 30w amp, it’s a little micro pedal that i can hopefully attach to the guitar as well.
Nice gizmo and he's right but you could also touch and hold the head stock of the guitar to the amp or speaker cabinet when you strike a note you want to sustain when you are looking for a long sustained note... and that note will sustain and possibly feed back.. no cables, no gimmicks.. And you can stop when out pull the head stock off (no longer touching the amp or cabinet) I also wonder if that gizmo has an option to shut off the unit for times when you don't want the guitar to vibrate. Sustain or feedback..that would be a nice option and maybe increased volume for it to amplify the guitar so you could practice without an practice amp. And just use the gizmo.
Yeah - I've been trying to come up with some "cheap/easy" way to replicate. The hardest challenge (so far) is a non-permanent mounting method. My best idea so far is some kind of clamp, which would be ugly, so that's out.
@@BeauregardHall I am sure you'll fix it! I mean it would be fantastic for gigs in smaller places. I would love to have this possibility All other feedbacks seems so stale to me. This sounds great. I will checking your channel hopefully
@@BeauregardHall the model B used a separate plate that the driver would magnetically stick to. that DID require a couple of screw holes (but I just used broccoli rubberbands, since it was traditionally up on the headstock) You coul maybe attach it to a replacement trem cover - but it'd probably have to be a burly cover to get good mechanical coupling , I wouldn't recommend doing it on the control cavity cover though b/c of the EM that close to the electronics
Great question!! I’ll have to make another video explaining. It’s very very simple if you have a guitar amp with an output in the back for a second speaker. I’ll post a video with all my details.
This is actually eiectric guitar reinvented! I thought how would it be a speaker without a membrane and iron iron or magnet disk inside the guitars body. It might filter high frequencies and work in silence. Think will only guitar body vibrations and feedback will born after filtration of woods itself...
It would work live... but you'd need to have two cables plugged into the guitar - one for the guitar-into-amp, and one for the amp-out-to-exciter speaker.
not the primary speaker. what is happening is the little thing attached to the body of the guitar is a driver (it's basically the voice coil part of a speaker without the cone and such) , these are designed to attach to a material slab to mechanically excite them and make the slab, etc the speaker -- these are usually done as DML "distributed mode loudspeakers" (insulting rigid foam sheets is a popular option) Dayton audio is a big player in the DIY space, Parts express carries them you aren't really getting sound out of the guitar -- the signal from the driver basically is creating a feedback loop...it excites the body and the strings of the guitar (similar to how a guitar in front of a loud guitar speaker does), the regular guitar speaker is handling making the sound, so the long and the short : it's actual natural feedback, but it's being handled directly through the wood instead of going through the air
@@sylvainparadis1274 Some amps (not all) have a "speaker out" plug in the back of the amp. You'd run a cable from that to the speaker mounted on your guitar. If you've never done any electric work, I would not do this on your own.
YES!!! Yes, yes, yes!
I've planned and dreamt of doing this since 'Tech Ingredients' did "World's Best Speaker" video five years ago, but typical for me I made everything so intricate and complicated that I couldn't face actually doing it or the possibility that it wouldn't work. The way you've done it is so neat and brilliant!
This looks awesome, I’ve always been thinking about ways of doing low volume feedback but your solution seems great
I’m hoping it works for home recording. I’ll try that and post results.
@@BeauregardHall If you can get a volume pedal going to this thing then you could use a pedal to recreate the control you have in front of a loud stack where you tilt your guitar to get just the right amount of feedback
@@cubesandpi yeah - BUT so here's where it can get messy - I'd either need a volume pedal that can handle full-electricity (ohms? watts?) of power coming from the amp to the speaker, OR, I'd need to split the signal and run more cables just to the volume pedal in front of a second amp. I DO agree though, there needs to be a way to control how much volume is pumping into the speaker so you get a subtle slow build, or a chaos amp-exploding thing. Great suggestion.
@@cubesandpi you might be interested in the sustainiac electroacoustic sustainers..they are built on this concept with some nice refinements (the old model A was actually parastically powered off the speaker)
the model C had an fx loop for exactly that kind of external control (volume , EQ on the drive signal...HINT : try a wah)
This guy getting geeked kinda gets me geeked.
Facts! My geektronomic number simply cannot be measured.
This made me run down the internet rabbit hole, and I guess Sustainiac did something very similar called the Sustain-Man. Basically it had a small power amp on the body and the speaker on the headstock. So I played around with a cheap amp plug I had laying around and a cable splitter to hook up to both the amp and amp plug and it worked like a dream. A cheap maybe $60 tops sustainiac and I’m really digging it.
There you go! Yes. I've been messing around lately with a bluetooth speaker - compact but bass heavy. It would work if I could figure out how to run a line directly into it instead of bluetooth's delay.
Way too cool, would be a dream for a low volume session! Great idea.
I think this works better mounted to the headstock than the body, at least when not playing on the higher frets, because there's less mass to move. Also fewer unexpected body resonances that might kill particular frequencies. Also with a normal guitar setup you'd get stronger feedback by simply touching the speaker cab with the headstock or neck.
Slash used a similar method in the studio to get all that feedback at the beginning of "You could be mine".
I have wanted to do this very thing for several years! Sounds great! Thank you for showing the demo!
i love your vibe, thank you and i’m definitely gonna be doing this- thinking of using a mooer micro 30w amp, it’s a little micro pedal that i can hopefully attach to the guitar as well.
Thanks. Yep - I still haven't figured out a solution that allows me to go moving around too far.
Maaaaan, that is great !!!! It never occurred to me and I have one of these things lying around for like 10 years.
wow...just wow this is awesome
Nice gizmo and he's right but you could also touch and hold the head stock of the guitar to the amp or speaker cabinet when you strike a note you want to sustain when you are looking for a long sustained note... and that note will sustain and possibly feed back.. no cables, no gimmicks..
And you can stop when out pull the head stock off (no longer touching the amp or cabinet)
I also wonder if that gizmo has an option to shut off the unit for times when you don't want the guitar to vibrate. Sustain or feedback..that would be a nice option and maybe increased volume for it to amplify the guitar so you could practice without an practice amp. And just use the gizmo.
yeah - that's what started my journey here. I do that a lot - love it. Would love to do that without running over to the amp.
That sounds amazing! I would love that in a pedal-form or something, to use for solos and riffs. Amazing
Yeah - I've been trying to come up with some "cheap/easy" way to replicate. The hardest challenge (so far) is a non-permanent mounting method. My best idea so far is some kind of clamp, which would be ugly, so that's out.
@@BeauregardHall I am sure you'll fix it! I mean it would be fantastic for gigs in smaller places. I would love to have this possibility All other feedbacks seems so stale to me. This sounds great. I will checking your channel hopefully
@@BeauregardHall the model B used a separate plate that the driver would magnetically stick to.
that DID require a couple of screw holes (but I just used broccoli rubberbands, since it was traditionally up on the headstock)
You coul maybe attach it to a replacement trem cover - but it'd probably have to be a burly cover to get good mechanical coupling , I wouldn't recommend doing it on the control cavity cover though b/c of the EM that close to the electronics
that's a great suggestion@@jimwinger
Yes.
This is so cool
Second on the prince stuff and more videos!!!
thats pretty cool
Sounds great.
Could you give more detail on how it's wired please? I couldn't quite get it.
Yep, I would I like a bit more info on how this was done!
Great question!! I’ll have to make another video explaining. It’s very very simple if you have a guitar amp with an output in the back for a second speaker. I’ll post a video with all my details.
@@BeauregardHall Thanks. That would be much appreciated.
@@Dead-Eye ruclips.net/video/h6WIDP1SYNk/видео.html I just made a video with alll the boring parts.
Cool gadget! Let´s hear some PRINCE-stuff next time? 🤩👍🤘
So you made a DIY sustainiac?
Much cheaper, no installation on the guitar, but yeah pretty much the same science.
awesommme ! How can you connect it besdie your regular jack cable ...? :O
Amazing!
No way I'm spending on a "real" sustainiac now.
It was really cool. I dismantled the whole thing but I'm wanting to break it out again.
This is actually eiectric guitar reinvented! I thought how would it be a speaker without a membrane and iron iron or magnet disk inside the guitars body. It might filter high frequencies and work in silence. Think will only guitar body vibrations and feedback will born after filtration of woods itself...
I tried this but I always got only certain frequencies to vibrate and go into sustain. It didn't work with the other tone pitches.
were you running more distortion into the doodad? Or was it same as the amp output?
How does it work live? You can't have it wired like that.
It would work live... but you'd need to have two cables plugged into the guitar - one for the guitar-into-amp, and one for the amp-out-to-exciter speaker.
So I'm guessing I could just take an exciter off the back of an old speaker to do this? (the world is full of old speakers)
That's a great question. It sounds like a great idea - I thought exciters were something else, but now that you say it, oh man. Yep.
Which exciter speaker did you go with? They seem to be a bit hard to find in Europe so I can't easily buy-to-try
Great question - unfortunately I can't remember. I know it was a 30-watt exciter, and that's about all I remember about it
Similar to a Sustainiac
$160 less!! But yep.
Is the guitar the speaker
not the primary speaker.
what is happening is the little thing attached to the body of the guitar is a driver (it's basically the voice coil part of a speaker without the cone and such) , these are designed to attach to a material slab to mechanically excite them and make the slab, etc the speaker -- these are usually done as DML "distributed mode loudspeakers" (insulting rigid foam sheets is a popular option)
Dayton audio is a big player in the DIY space, Parts express carries them
you aren't really getting sound out of the guitar -- the signal from the driver basically is creating a feedback loop...it excites the body and the strings of the guitar (similar to how a guitar in front of a loud guitar speaker does), the regular guitar speaker is handling making the sound,
so the long and the short : it's actual natural feedback, but it's being handled directly through the wood instead of going through the air
It is not - the speaker has a glue/sticky ring on it, and I just mounted it to the back of the guitar.
The cable from the guitar goes in the input of the amp. But where goes the guitar jack you attached to the speaker/exciter ?
@@sylvainparadis1274 Some amps (not all) have a "speaker out" plug in the back of the amp. You'd run a cable from that to the speaker mounted on your guitar. If you've never done any electric work, I would not do this on your own.