The balance doesn’t affect you unless you are the top 1% of expert player in this game.. before that, it’s about build order, map awareness, building the right units and most importantly micro. In fact on game replays in the forums, recently a top level discussion was opened (again) about the balance of the game. Ideas to Balances were no more than 5% (i.e, very small changes) because obviously every faction has their own nuances that make it very hard to balance. But what most people don’t talk about is the (arguably) the strongest player right now is Dimon who mains Soviet’s and empire.. make that what you will. Plus we would never know if the game was truly balanced until we opened this game up to the Koreans who have 1000 APM
@@projektzero9873 What kind of reasoning is that. Imagine you play chess, and youre told you always get the black pieces, because youre not a pro player. Thus you should win by just trying harder. If I play a game, even if youre not a top player, you still want to play a balanced game because having to be better than you opponent just to even out the odds is silly.
Okay, this was an amazing game The sickle farming was great, one of the best strats I've ever seen since the flak bunker in cabana Republic (maybe even better). I absolutely loved this game, it made me laugh out loud many times, between the chrono swap genius, the sims city madness and the baby bert featuring, it made my day ! Anyways, thank you for this incredible game, I thought I've seen everything
Except I don’t think DDF factored in the cost the cost of the war factories. It’s 2k each so each will take 5 terror drones to break even before actually generating income.
@@aaalvincool half of that if you sell them, and even less if you'd be able to build up 6 or so units and use the cashback bounty on them. Seems like a valid strategy to me.
34:30 You can get extra cash from the terror drone that might pop out. I believe a lot of Chinese players have been using this tactic and they call it the "perpetual motion machine"
12:08 Oops, I saw that xD Poor Kirov, the first Kirov was just the saddest Kirov ever created. I think Cyrocopter is quite OP, because they can disable two ground units at the same time. And then the max Cyro power, maybe frozen units should like take 2 or 3x damage, not insta kill?
Agree on the insta kill, and the Shrink ray thing is just toxic. I'd love to see a completely different ability for the Cryocopter TBH. The unit can be made less OP, and then come down in price to compensate. They are quite pricey (1600 I think?)
@@Iam0ne1 No. mig does not help, he will not move cryos outside of IFV range, it take small mistake for sovs to lose mig with their paper armour, not the same for cryo
@@ashleyrobinson5463 they are better the bullfrogs anyway, which are so slow they didnt kill a single cryo and which all ended up dead anyway. mig presence also stops the cryos from appearing all over the map cause the bullfrogs cant catch up.
And don't forget it's unthinkable shrink-ray range. It's so OP that you like don't even enter a ground AA-unit fire zone, but already shrink it down, decreasing it's range too. So disgusting mechanic. Who in the world would think it is balanced now...
1:06 "There is someone out there in the audience who is tremendously excited - not by DDF or Freeze or anything like that - but, that the Soviets are red and the Allies are blue." It's me. Always love seeing the factions fighting with their native campaign colors xD
The terrodrone farming idea is brilliant except don’t forget to factor cost of a war factory which is 2k, which means it takes 5 terrodrones to break even before making positive income :)
I think DDF forget to think about breakeven and ended up wasting production cues in all the war factories when at the same time Allies is ramping up in army sizes.
but in the late game, the investment of war factory is still way better than a refinery on a depleted ore. If you rebuild a collector on a depleted ore, it will take 4 minutes to break even; If you have to rebuild a refinery, it will take even more...
At higher levels players tend to be better at abusing stuff that's strong. Tengus controlled by a top 10 player are a lot scarier than Tengus controlled by me. Allies have a number of tools that once you learn how to use them well are very powerful and efficient. That sort of snowballs into different factions being perceived as over powered for a time, back in 2012-2013 Empire was considered way over powered because of how good with Tengus some players were, then c9, Walf, Yui and a few others made beating Allies almost impossible, then Dankal came in and wrecked everyone with Soviets. Allies cryo is probably legitimately over powered and that's what gets a lot of attention. Balance definitely needs some tweaking, but for being a game with as little development time as it had and for being abandoned by EA as quickly as it was the balance is a miracle.
Wait. That looks like my kind of game. I would have a lot of game in a game like that. When I say my game I mean towards the end the start was better than what I would do.
I think the YR thing you are referring to turning the slaves from the slave miners into brutes and sending them into the grinder. Those slaves are automatically replaced by the slave miners and cost nothing for the player. Easy money for yuri.
cryo is killing the game, it is insanely bulky and unfair to fight against, insane freezing dps, no risk shrink beam with just no cool down,,the hell is dev thinking about
This game is so fucking unbalance :-( I am not active player anymore, but I absolutely love watching these replays. I prefer 1v1 and no mirrors pls :-D
I just hope if RA4 ever becomes a reality. There will be no freeze weapons involved. Insta-kills in an rts game is cheating to the highest level. It's like playing mario with the star power up active at all times.
@@OneSybert I'm maybe a bit late, but your apoc tanks won't do much if the enemy has this much cryocopters who just shrink them down, now an enemy prospector can crush your apoc tanks
If enemy do cryocopter, do mass cheap tanks and rush...so easy. Dont do expensive unit, and try defens your army..soviet player is sooooo bad this game. You need only 30 tank and rush everything.
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It always stuns me how good this game looks for it being almost 13 years old. If only something was done about the balance...
The balance doesn’t affect you unless you are the top 1% of expert player in this game.. before that, it’s about build order, map awareness, building the right units and most importantly micro. In fact on game replays in the forums, recently a top level discussion was opened (again) about the balance of the game. Ideas to Balances were no more than 5% (i.e, very small changes) because obviously every faction has their own nuances that make it very hard to balance. But what most people don’t talk about is the (arguably) the strongest player right now is Dimon who mains Soviet’s and empire.. make that what you will. Plus we would never know if the game was truly balanced until we opened this game up to the Koreans who have 1000 APM
@@projektzero9873 Absolutely right
@@projektzero9873 what's APM?
@@Nostalgia_Addict Actions Per Minute.
@@projektzero9873 What kind of reasoning is that. Imagine you play chess, and youre told you always get the black pieces, because youre not a pro player. Thus you should win by just trying harder. If I play a game, even if youre not a top player, you still want to play a balanced game because having to be better than you opponent just to even out the odds is silly.
10:55 Mirage tank turn into civilian truck. Never seen this before.
I know it happens on maps with parking lots but I've never seen it on infinity.
Rarely happens on that type of map
That's probably a war crime, too.
Lmao the mass suicide into the crane 🤣
Okay, this was an amazing game
The sickle farming was great, one of the best strats I've ever seen since the flak bunker in cabana Republic (maybe even better).
I absolutely loved this game, it made me laugh out loud many times, between the chrono swap genius, the sims city madness and the baby bert featuring, it made my day !
Anyways, thank you for this incredible game, I thought I've seen everything
Except I don’t think DDF factored in the cost the cost of the war factories. It’s 2k each so each will take 5 terror drones to break even before actually generating income.
@@aaalvincool indeed !
@@aaalvincool half of that if you sell them, and even less if you'd be able to build up 6 or so units and use the cashback bounty on them. Seems like a valid strategy to me.
@@zyrobs yes, but only in the looooog term, lol
What vid was that bunker Cabana republic one? I remember it happening. I just spent 20 minutes searching through videos but can’t find it
34:30 You can get extra cash from the terror drone that might pop out. I believe a lot of Chinese players have been using this tactic and they call it the "perpetual motion machine"
where can i watch chinese server ra3 games??
Red soviets and blue alliance. *Perfectly balanced, as all things should be*
Upd: oh shi sorry for misspelling soviets
Game with Cryocopters is never balanced (
12:08 Oops, I saw that xD
Poor Kirov, the first Kirov was just the saddest Kirov ever created.
I think Cyrocopter is quite OP, because they can disable two ground units at the same time. And then the max Cyro power, maybe frozen units should like take 2 or 3x damage, not insta kill?
Agree on the insta kill, and the Shrink ray thing is just toxic. I'd love to see a completely different ability for the Cryocopter TBH. The unit can be made less OP, and then come down in price to compensate. They are quite pricey (1600 I think?)
5 vs 2 refinery and still cant win, great balance
They really need to decrease the health of the Cryocopters
@@abdallaha92 i think that criobeam OP too
Nah red wasted too much money on bullfrogs instead of migs, with all that money he could have killed all cryos
@@Iam0ne1 No. mig does not help, he will not move cryos outside of IFV range, it take small mistake for sovs to lose mig with their paper armour, not the same for cryo
@@ashleyrobinson5463 they are better the bullfrogs anyway, which are so slow they didnt kill a single cryo and which all ended up dead anyway. mig presence also stops the cryos from appearing all over the map cause the bullfrogs cant catch up.
Soviets are red! This makes premier proud!
Every time I see Sybert upload. I know that day is a wholesome day. Good to see you're back man! :)
Mass cryocopter is so disgusting. Why does cryocopter have so much health? It’s so painful to watch soviets lack of anti-infantry and anti-air.
And don't forget it's unthinkable shrink-ray range. It's so OP that you like don't even enter a ground AA-unit fire zone, but already shrink it down, decreasing it's range too. So disgusting mechanic. Who in the world would think it is balanced now...
1:06 "There is someone out there in the audience who is tremendously excited - not by DDF or Freeze or anything like that - but, that the Soviets are red and the Allies are blue."
It's me. Always love seeing the factions fighting with their native campaign colors xD
Soviets are red.
Allies are blue.
Crane exploit doesn't work.
Allies OP.
Never would I see the day where I expected to see the soviets in ra3 adapting the tactic of yuri grinding
Thanks for casting!
I absolutely LOVE your sarcasm here lmfao
And a long game !
Thanks !
The terrodrone farming idea is brilliant except don’t forget to factor cost of a war factory which is 2k, which means it takes 5 terrodrones to break even before making positive income :)
I think DDF forget to think about breakeven and ended up wasting production cues in all the war factories when at the same time Allies is ramping up in army sizes.
but in the late game, the investment of war factory is still way better than a refinery on a depleted ore.
If you rebuild a collector on a depleted ore, it will take 4 minutes to break even; If you have to rebuild a refinery, it will take even more...
whats the track at 12:50
Wow, music from Earth 2015 around 9:10 ?
holy crap is this game still having tournaments?
Yes indeed. One place is: www.gamereplays.org/redalert3/
It is still pretty popular in China.
@@OneSybert that's some next level dedication from you to continue making content for this game on youtube
also lol to sickle farm imagine couple years later this becomes soviet meta and all allies players crying in coordination;
"Sovs sickle farm op"
what is the soundtrack at 12:30?
still uploading happy to see that
Is the game's balance as busted as the replays make it seem, or is it just a coincidence?
Allies have been OP since the game released in 2008, lol.
At higher levels players tend to be better at abusing stuff that's strong. Tengus controlled by a top 10 player are a lot scarier than Tengus controlled by me. Allies have a number of tools that once you learn how to use them well are very powerful and efficient. That sort of snowballs into different factions being perceived as over powered for a time, back in 2012-2013 Empire was considered way over powered because of how good with Tengus some players were, then c9, Walf, Yui and a few others made beating Allies almost impossible, then Dankal came in and wrecked everyone with Soviets. Allies cryo is probably legitimately over powered and that's what gets a lot of attention.
Balance definitely needs some tweaking, but for being a game with as little development time as it had and for being abandoned by EA as quickly as it was the balance is a miracle.
allies are op, even the allies haters and allies boot lickers know that.
Freeze...
*C r y o c o p t e r s*
thank you for the commentary
Last such massive battle I saw there between Dimon and Vindi
Wait. That looks like my kind of game. I would have a lot of game in a game like that. When I say my game I mean towards the end the start was better than what I would do.
where to play RA3?
I just like it when soviets are red and allies are blue
Never gonna give you up
red observation post with allied sign on it just freaking me out.
do not know why the comunity does not limit the allies to one cryo copter
ah, the classic cookie clicker strat
Chrono Swap!
Now you know how silly it will be!
I think the YR thing you are referring to turning the slaves from the slave miners into brutes and sending them into the grinder. Those slaves are automatically replaced by the slave miners and cost nothing for the player. Easy money for yuri.
You can also do it with basic inf and a cloning vat.
That's true but you mostly see people (in pro games) using it on slave miners as cloning vat are rarely ever used.
Allies are blue
Soviets are red
Cryocopters are imba
And this is so bad(
You know it's over when allied has 6 cryo's and a heroic vindicator. Kinda weird DDF allowed that to happen so easily.
Freeze. Cryocopters. Only make sense
Allies OP
I've never heard about Freeze before. who is it
They played this game on Chinese server, and Freeze was one of top Allies player there
He is the embodiment of the salt and tears of the soviet players who have fallen to the cryocopters, hence his ID.
Me seeing DDF's name
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cryo is killing the game, it is insanely bulky and unfair to fight against, insane freezing dps, no risk shrink beam with just no cool down,,the hell is dev thinking about
Soviets has very weak anti air, that is a problem.
I was feeling bad for soviet until I saw 3 factories
A familiar avatar... And a familiar name! Long time no see xD
@@iiynal who is this
I heard the crusher crane strategy was banned in the Chinese sever.
@@Insomnia1234o00o I don't know. But I know they did setup a lot of rules
@@nuomitang30 where can i watch chinese server games?
This map proved how DDF a Chinese player. He does math (the non-stop sickle spam) even while playing game @@
I love watching Pro players fighting. Mostly because im nOOb...
BTW. Someone has noticed that the dogs are bigger than infantry?
This game is so fucking unbalance :-( I am not active player anymore, but I absolutely love watching these replays. I prefer 1v1 and no mirrors pls :-D
Soviets lost with twice as much economy, isn't it the prove that Allies are OP?
It can also be skill, even if I think Allies could be balanced
the ore collected in final statistics dont considerate the cost of sickle,so Soviets actually not that rich.
Allies definetly OP.
Freeze❄️⛄❄️⛄ used cyrofreeze very effectively 💥👍
click emp missile
click cryogeddon
congrats, you're allies expert
ONLY FOREVER FOR THE SOVIET UNIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great！ I love this！
whats the point of playing as anything other than Allies? casting this imbalanced garbage is a waste of time
ДДФ начал хорошо, но потом ,что? Че за дичь он начал делать? Нахер он строил серпы и уничтожал их? Почему не занимал новые локации?
Видимо, решил, что фармить деньги на серпах проще, чем занимать новые локации.
More Ra3
I just hope if RA4 ever becomes a reality.
There will be no freeze weapons involved. Insta-kills in an rts game is cheating to the highest level.
It's like playing mario with the star power up active at all times.
How do you feel about crushing? Like the apoc tank running over other tanks?
@@OneSybert I'm maybe a bit late, but your apoc tanks won't do much if the enemy has this much cryocopters who just shrink them down, now an enemy prospector can crush your apoc tanks
If enemy do cryocopter, do mass cheap tanks and rush...so easy. Dont do expensive unit, and try defens your army..soviet player is sooooo bad this game. You need only 30 tank and rush everything.
I'd love to see you do that.
Anybody know the song that starts around 28:00?
It's the John Wick track from this music pack: www.triunedigital.com/collections/royalty-free-music/products/cinematic-scores
What is this soundtrack at 35.00 ?