very informative video. and yes, it is borderline pretentious how levi's has basically zero info on their website. don't they realize we like to know about what we're buying? as a denim head of almost 15 years, i have nothing against levi's, but at this point i'd rather give my money to the "mom and pop" jean brands. my top 3 favorite fits are rgt stantons, railcar spikes, and tellason sheffield.
Thanks for your website suggestions. Do selvedge jeans come hemmed? I imagine they come long so you either need to roll them or tailor them. I'm leaning toward the Tellason Elgin
Elgin is a very nice fit. Yes, they will come with a hem. Selvedge denim jeans generally come long because most people want to cuff them, but there's no rule. I would suggest wearing them cuffed for a few months before you decide to hem them shorter.
I'm learning a lot about clothing from you. My main language is Spanish so I don't understand everything you say, but I enjoy watching your videos! Saludos desde Perú!
Bought my first LVC pairs few days ago. 66’ 501 Rigid. Cone Mills. Bartack. Big E. A bit tapered. Since I don’t own a tub, I soak it with cold water for 25-30 mins. Shrinking a bit, but fit good on me. Truly a legendary pair from legendary brand.
@@virtual_selfdid you soak them in hot water? If not, that’s probably why they haven’t shrunk too much. It’s also possible you bought a pair of sanforized or pre-wash jeans.
Having owned both Uniqlo and LVC raw denim I can safely say that the LVC quality is lightyears ahead. I'm lucky if a pair from Uniqlo last a year of moderate wear without falling apart whereas the LVCs are still going strong today after being purchased in 2012 .They had 2 years of almost daily wear with minimal washes and get pulled out semi-regularly nowadays.
Thanks for this. I'm just now getting into this vintage denim thing. I'm 54 and 501's were a staple of life for a teenager in the 80's. **If only I had this information back then!** Gonna subscribe so I can keep up!
In the UK 2008 LVC 1947s were about £120-140. In 2010 they went up to £220 ish. The reason I was told of the increase was the cost of cotton had doubled, if not more. I'm guessing Levis just never readjusted the price to reflect the cost of cotton.
man those were the day's when buying a pair of LVC meant you didn't have to sell a liver or remortgage your house. Sadly they will never go back to the £120 mark. I do remember before covid in 2019 they had a big LVC sale. Not seen that since 😢
Lots of very interesting info here, so thanks! My guess would be that the cost driver was most likely the profit margin they're looking for rather than production cost. I was disappointed that we all have to wait another week for the big announcement. I want to get at the front of the line for orders (please make sure not to forget those of us of the short, stout persuasion).
I think a lot of it is margin too at the end of the day sadly. And don’t worry next week I’m announcing it! Not dropping anything yet BUT getting closer and don’t worry, will do!
Never imagined the fabric to become heavier after shrinkage. Didn't mind LVC STF bc of the 'lightweight' fabric. My models will be the 1933's and/or 1937's.
LVC pricing can seem really out of hand but it's a wild west because it's all ready been made. They aren't making anything in US or with Cone Mills denim anymore.
They look great on you. Nice fit. Unless they’re uncofortrable, I wouldn’t sweat it. Now, you may have wanted longer legs to roll the jeans up, but you can still pull it off with this length. Me personally, I do not roll my cuffs, unless the jeans are too long. At least you have an excuse to buy another pair!
My favorite Levi’s 501’s is the whole world were really old and very amazing. They had an incredible slim fit, super dark, just amazing. I was at a house party and some kid bumped a big red candle over and the wax went all the F-K over my jeans. Don’t wear your favorite vintage jeans around chilllllldreennnnnnnnnnnnnn
The wax marks would make them look more authentic, Back in the days when they were worn, most Levi's would have had candle wax on them, along with marks caused by embers from lighting the wood stove and ash marks from using them to stub cigarettes out. These days, people wear their Levi's for going out. Back then people changed into smarter pants and some trendy bars had a no jeans dress code. Here in the UK, no one would have worn jeans going out for a meal or to a nightclub. Wearing jeans for fashion was first associated with the USA, followed by France.
The Warehouse and co 1105 is the best 501 I ever have, just a pajama. So much confort, so much details. The denim is made with Zimbabwe Cotton, like the one Fullcount make - because this cotton has the same specifications as the american cotton in the early 30-40’s. Love this Jean, wear it as much as I can ! Thanks for your content, very good intro haha
Full count is trash. I bought a pair, and they have huge leg twist in one leg where the selvage seam is over the top of my foot. Super uncomfortable. They say it's part of high quality, but levis has figured out a way to not have leg twist. Full count sucks
the BEST LVC 501 was back in the time when they were made in Japan, those were 100% original retro by using the machines from 1950s. Nowadays 501s are made in Turkey, not as good as the Japanese made. But, still something worthy to own.
@@TheIronSnail no doubt, I love my 1954 501. If you really want to feel the original 1950s American denim fabric, try Momotaro. That denim material is no joke.
I have a pair of Levi's Raw Selvedge 501s. They're 100% cotton. I also have a pair of 505s I wear a lot that are 100% cotton but pre washed and treated. Not dyed in the same way or build with the same care. You can still walk into the store and find 100% Levi's for ~$60 but they don't compare to the Raw ones.
i find in the LVC 1966 model you can go for your regular levis 501 or lee jeans waist size but for the 1947 u only need to size up one. sizing 2 up will always mess with the fit. the length u must have atleast 3 inches extra.
I'm a 30/30 and got a 31/32 but after soaking them for 30m in cold water I got almost no shrinkage 😅😢😢 I'm nervous lol spent a lot of money and now I have some jeans that are way too big in the silhouette, the waist not that much though.
do a hot soak your mistake was doing the first soak with cold water. u use cold water to minimise shrinkage. do a second soak with hot water and hang dry in the heat@@virtual_self
@@sf2explus184 already did and got the same results. Also did a 30° wash in the machine and it still isn't good...this is the 1st and last time I buy something to shrink to fit lol complete nonsense tbh. Had a 30" and dismissed it because of the so called shrinkage. smh.
You can size down on 1955 LVC 501’s as they have a boxy loose fit around the seat and thighs. For 1947’s you really should size up 2 inches as the thighs are so fitted.
Are you thinking someone should size up 2 inches for the shrink to fit raw 1947s or size up 2 inches for any other non raw wash which would mean someone should then size up 4 inches for the raw shrink to fit 1955s.
I have learned that lesson with my levi's! I always get them one size bigger, because if you wash them, if you wash them regularly! They tend to shrink. My jeans i wash them like every 3 to 4 months depending on the use of them. But that's good to know!
What is sad is that these are not actually the most accurate reproduction of a Levi's 1947 501. Unfortunately for Levi's, there are Japanese brands that do actually make more accurate reproductions of older Levis with Conners Sewing Factory being the first that comes to mind.
@@TheIronSnail ok I figured you would be aware of them. CSF/One Piece of Rock is more obscure. Freewheelers is another one that does some solid Levi's repros, but CSF is the most accurate down to using only period correct sewing machines. I have a LVC triple pleat that I love, but sadly their accuracy is not actually very good despite them being Levi's
Recently shrank my 1947 (USA made cone Mills) and I’m upset I didn’t get as much leg twist as you 😂 hopefully with future washes! Also as far as price you have to add in R&D as well when talking about reproducing replicas which brands like buzz ricksons does on basically a molecular level 😅 not saying LVC goes so far but still! Anyways awesome videos man love seeing you more often keep it up 👏🏼
Cone Mills Loomchatter = Drop it like it's hot. I can't unhear or unsee that. Love all your videos. The mod at malefashion is probably seething at your success.
Grácias. Me visto de blue jeans desde 1951...el 501 es mi preferido,los uso mucho los lavo poco, y con agua fría...duran más y su precio no sube mucho aunque venden más...Levi's es mi preferido para cualquier ocasión. Es económico llevar puesto un blue jeans
36 does in fact exist i have many lvc 501's my favorites are probably the 1955 as they have the highest rise (and then have the legs tapered by a levi's taylor)
I used to work at a Levi's and we always got random returns from the online store. The heart break when a guy dropped these off and i could not fit them.
My oldest 501 (black) is from 1993 - and guess what? The fabric is still spot on, albeit serveral times of courses being repainted, recolored with black color, because you do know...the sun, uv and the color is fading...over time. But the quality back then was there, still. Not like the 70-80s...but still great. Nowadays ?!?! A 501? Nevermore that long lasting, ever. Fabrics are thin, and easily being ripped apart after some time...because it's very thin, compared to decades ago. Scheduled obsolescence, it is...sad, but true.
They might be using the LVC line to maintain trademarks on the models. Similar to how they still manufacture 10% of their red tabs blank, to keep the trademark on the red tab, and not just a brand name logo.
Meh. If you ask me, the price is to justify LVC's marketing budget. Kaihara also supplies Uniqlo's selvedge denim and they are Japan's largest denim manufacturer. Cone Denim IS still around. The White Oak plant closed but the Cone Denim company (and looms) moved like a town or two away in NC and have been concentrating on making their own denim. If these were USA made and produced in smaller quantities, mayyybeeee they could justify $260? But, like you said, the selvedge market is so wide open right now with boutique manufacturers who will make you much better jeans for a much lower cost, I don't know who the market is for these? I actually have a pair of their White Oak jeans that I found in a thrift store a few years back and were no great shakes so I turned them into jorts. The ultimate insult!
A ruthless jort conversion! And yeah I agree on that 100% the more I learn and read it seems like Kaihara can just handle the volume. Plus yes! I deleted it for time but Vidalia mills is right around the corner! I was thinking they used the transition as a cost saver?
@@TheIronSnail It makes total sense that the largest denim brand in the west would source their denim from Japan's largest plant, but to act like this is somehow special when you can buy the same denim at Uniqlo for $60 is nuts! I forgot that Bravestar actually uses Cone Mills denim in most of their jeans. And they do all their manufacturing in America too. AND their jeans are $99?! I know they don't have the overhead Levis does but, $260? For real?
So true!! Bravestar also has so much cone mills it blows my mind, they still are doing runs with it! + their prices are the most competitive I’ve ever seen! Always blows my mind they can sell them at $99, makes me wonder what markups are with other brands
You wanna hear a funny thing? From R&D to manufacturing and sewing everything in LVC is done in Turkey, but as far as I know and see there is not a single Levi's store that sells LVC in Turkey, Not even the official website... I live in Turkey and only time I have found a LVC chino pants was by coincidence. I gotta look into this, maybe mail Levi's directly.
I second this. I’m currently wearing an amazing pair of White Oak Cone Demin jeans by Bravestar that were about $80. Quality on par with the Naked and Famous pairs I own. Also, Uniqlo makes a great affordable selvedge jean
Great video. I kinda surprised there is still hidden rivets. I was sure, and told, that during ww2 they stooped using them to save metal. Speaking of price, i have LVC Studio Taper, made in japan, they has 284$ retail. And it still fraction of a price for some designer denim, or hi-end luxury brands. I have G-Star raw with retail of 430$ made in India of all places and it makes almost no sesnes, cuz "true luxurious Italian jeans" can be found at 500$ or less. So price is all over the place. They also, afaik, mark up at least 50% up from "real retail price". Aka it still profitable with 50% off, so they can sell it to other stores, and stores can sell them even with discount keeping the profit. Holy damn, my English is worse than usual today.
@@TheIronSnail While rivets were dropped altogether at some points during WW2, the hidden rivets were introduced a few years later following some bars and restaurants banning people from wearing riveted jeans because they scratched the chairs. A few years later, a new bartack was introduced.
I was very disappointed with my regular Levi 501's They are alot more expensive over here in the UK and can't really compete with Nudie everlane etc. Just priced themselves out of the UK market
Yeah I actually heard regularly priced Levi’s in the UK are crazy expensive! It’s insane because I wouldn’t spent more than the $50 they charge now for a regular 501 STF but for some reason the UK is super super high
Michael, what was the colour code of this garment ? Could you please share it ? And thank you for your cool videos, I really love them and can't wait for the new releases !
Take a looksie at Mr Freedom clothing. They have a bunch of cool, vintage, naval themed designed jeans/pants as well as being assembled in the good ole US of A.
Actually, the Turkish textile industry is of premium quality, as it is advertised by many brands and is considered a premium quality. If you wanted to cut costs you wouldn't manufacture in Turkey, you would manufacture in Moldova, Romania, or god forbid south-east Asia or china.
Why would you think made in China wouldn’t be premium quality? I think you simply don’t know much about what’s actually going on in places like China. If they manufactured the Jeans in one of China’s top economic cities the cost of labor is probably significantly higher than in Turkey. In fact if you ever worked in China in one of those cities you couldn’t even afford a house, they are so much more expensive than housing in USA. I’ve had clothes made in China of which labor costs higher than labor in the USA.
I'm just ticked off it used to be MIA and then made in Turkey with japanese fabric Just MAKE IT ALL IN JAPAN! would make everyone like them more, make it MIJ!
I just bought a pair of Levi 501 selvage that’s made in Japan. I’m guessing made in Turkey just costs more. They could’ve just had it made in China but I think people may not buy them if that’s the case due to China having a bad rep (even though Turkey is definitely not a better country than China but most people don’t know anything about Turkey so there you go)
What I know is we don't have a good trade agreement with Japan not like Canada so naked and famous. So Japan and Canada work better and it's cheaper for them compared to us if we got the denim ship here and made here. So that's why Levi's gets the raw material ship it to an other country where it's cheaper to import and boom bam that's how it goes
My jeans were made in Japan and I got the leg twist too 🤓 now I just need to soak them again for 30m, because the 1st time they barely shrinked 😅 Shall I soak them in cold water again? 🤓
I bought the 1954 501s a few months ago and went two sizes up to a 30 and they’re still tight on the waist so got some new ones (different wash) in a 32 fingers crossed they’re right, or maybe I’ve just gotten thicker
Love your vids man! Just got the 1954 501's Rinse in my normal size (31),. Definitely a bit tight in the waist and will need to size up. Do you have any experience with LVC's rinse models?
I’ve run into my fair share of lemon products, not fun. It still sounds like a great coat though. I’ll probably pick one up at some point. Thanks for the response man!
Can anyone help, please? Soaked them 30m in cold water and they didn't shrinked. Soaked them again in warm water and got the same results. Washed them in 30° and Nothing again... I'm now stuck with a size 31" and need a 30" 😔 =((((((
Man, these are the Cadillac of Levi's Jeans. 🎉
HA! They for sure are!
These are the Cadillac of clothing reviews. You are a very funny person, Mr. Iron Snail.
very informative video. and yes, it is borderline pretentious how levi's has basically zero info on their website. don't they realize we like to know about what we're buying? as a denim head of almost 15 years, i have nothing against levi's, but at this point i'd rather give my money to the "mom and pop" jean brands. my top 3 favorite fits are rgt stantons, railcar spikes, and tellason sheffield.
Thanks for your website suggestions. Do selvedge jeans come hemmed? I imagine they come long so you either need to roll them or tailor them. I'm leaning toward the Tellason Elgin
Elgin is a very nice fit. Yes, they will come with a hem. Selvedge denim jeans generally come long because most people want to cuff them, but there's no rule. I would suggest wearing them cuffed for a few months before you decide to hem them shorter.
I'm learning a lot about clothing from you. My main language is Spanish so I don't understand everything you say, but I enjoy watching your videos! Saludos desde Perú!
Hey thank you! So nice to hear!
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Bought my first LVC pairs few days ago. 66’ 501 Rigid. Cone Mills. Bartack. Big E. A bit tapered. Since I don’t own a tub, I soak it with cold water for 25-30 mins. Shrinking a bit, but fit good on me. Truly a legendary pair from legendary brand.
Ah so cool!
I got a pair and went with 1 size up. Soaked it for 30min and they barely shrinked 😅😢 I don't know what to do now 😅😅
@@virtual_selfdid you soak them in hot water? If not, that’s probably why they haven’t shrunk too much. It’s also possible you bought a pair of sanforized or pre-wash jeans.
Brooo. The editing. So good.
Ty ty ty!
Uniqlo also uses Kahara Mills for their raw jeans and sells the jeans at roughly 40 USD.
Having owned both Uniqlo and LVC raw denim I can safely say that the LVC quality is lightyears ahead. I'm lucky if a pair from Uniqlo last a year of moderate wear without falling apart whereas the LVCs are still going strong today after being purchased in 2012 .They had 2 years of almost daily wear with minimal washes and get pulled out semi-regularly nowadays.
Thanks for this. I'm just now getting into this vintage denim thing. I'm 54 and 501's were a staple of life for a teenager in the 80's. **If only I had this information back then!**
Gonna subscribe so I can keep up!
In the UK 2008 LVC 1947s were about £120-140. In 2010 they went up to £220 ish. The reason I was told of the increase was the cost of cotton had doubled, if not more. I'm guessing Levis just never readjusted the price to reflect the cost of cotton.
man those were the day's when buying a pair of LVC meant you didn't have to sell a liver or remortgage your house. Sadly they will never go back to the £120 mark. I do remember before covid in 2019 they had a big LVC sale. Not seen that since 😢
Lots of very interesting info here, so thanks! My guess would be that the cost driver was most likely the profit margin they're looking for rather than production cost. I was disappointed that we all have to wait another week for the big announcement. I want to get at the front of the line for orders (please make sure not to forget those of us of the short, stout persuasion).
I think a lot of it is margin too at the end of the day sadly. And don’t worry next week I’m announcing it! Not dropping anything yet BUT getting closer and don’t worry, will do!
Never imagined the fabric to become heavier after shrinkage. Didn't mind LVC STF bc of the 'lightweight' fabric. My models will be the 1933's and/or 1937's.
Yeah pretty cool! The 30’s fits are awesome
LVC pricing can seem really out of hand but it's a wild west because it's all ready been made. They aren't making anything in US or with Cone Mills denim anymore.
Yup 100% agree!
They look great on you. Nice fit. Unless they’re uncofortrable, I wouldn’t sweat it. Now, you may have wanted longer legs to roll the jeans up, but you can still pull it off with this length. Me personally, I do not roll my cuffs, unless the jeans are too long.
At least you have an excuse to buy another pair!
My favorite Levi’s 501’s is the whole world were really old and very amazing. They had an incredible slim fit, super dark, just amazing. I was at a house party and some kid bumped a big red candle over and the wax went all the F-K over my jeans. Don’t wear your favorite vintage jeans around chilllllldreennnnnnnnnnnnnn
Oooooooooof!
The wax marks would make them look more authentic, Back in the days when they were worn, most Levi's would have had candle wax on them, along with marks caused by embers from lighting the wood stove and ash marks from using them to stub cigarettes out.
These days, people wear their Levi's for going out. Back then people changed into smarter pants and some trendy bars had a no jeans dress code. Here in the UK, no one would have worn jeans going out for a meal or to a nightclub.
Wearing jeans for fashion was first associated with the USA, followed by France.
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The Warehouse and co 1105 is the best 501 I ever have, just a pajama. So much confort, so much details. The denim is made with Zimbabwe Cotton, like the one Fullcount make - because this cotton has the same specifications as the american cotton in the early 30-40’s. Love this Jean, wear it as much as I can ! Thanks for your content, very good intro haha
After checking not sure for the Cotton, well sure for Fullcount but not Warehouse. Still a great denim haha
FullCount 1101 feel just like 501's. I have a 501 pre lvc made in 🇺🇸 and a FullCount 1101, you cant tell the difference
Full count is trash. I bought a pair, and they have huge leg twist in one leg where the selvage seam is over the top of my foot. Super uncomfortable.
They say it's part of high quality, but levis has figured out a way to not have leg twist. Full count sucks
You seem happy. I love to watch your videos just to enjoy your happiness.
Well hey thank you! That means a ton
I could see you getting popular! I like the editing, the name, etc... doing good!
Well hey THANKS!
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the BEST LVC 501 was back in the time when they were made in Japan, those were 100% original retro by using the machines from 1950s. Nowadays 501s are made in Turkey, not as good as the Japanese made. But, still something worthy to own.
Still amazing jeans! Hearing about all the different iterations and locations is cool though
@@TheIronSnail no doubt, I love my 1954 501. If you really want to feel the original 1950s American denim fabric, try Momotaro. That denim material is no joke.
I love Momotaro! Haven’t had a chance to get any of their denim yet but I totally will soon
@@TheIronSnail bro, you will notice the difference! Their material is too unique
Let me grab something from them then!
It’s been years since I wore Levi’s and these are definitely a good look
I have a pair of Levi's Raw Selvedge 501s. They're 100% cotton. I also have a pair of 505s I wear a lot that are 100% cotton but pre washed and treated. Not dyed in the same way or build with the same care. You can still walk into the store and find 100% Levi's for ~$60 but they don't compare to the Raw ones.
i find in the LVC 1966 model you can go for your regular levis 501 or lee jeans waist size but for the 1947 u only need to size up one. sizing 2 up will always mess with the fit. the length u must have atleast 3 inches extra.
I'm a 30/30 and got a 31/32 but after soaking them for 30m in cold water I got almost no shrinkage 😅😢😢 I'm nervous lol spent a lot of money and now I have some jeans that are way too big in the silhouette, the waist not that much though.
do a hot soak your mistake was doing the first soak with cold water. u use cold water to minimise shrinkage. do a second soak with hot water and hang dry in the heat@@virtual_self
@@sf2explus184 will do that thanks
@@sf2explus184 already did and got the same results. Also did a 30° wash in the machine and it still isn't good...this is the 1st and last time I buy something to shrink to fit lol complete nonsense tbh. Had a 30" and dismissed it because of the so called shrinkage. smh.
You can size down on 1955 LVC 501’s as they have a boxy loose fit around the seat and thighs. For 1947’s you really should size up 2 inches as the thighs are so fitted.
Agreed!
Are you thinking someone should size up 2 inches for the shrink to fit raw 1947s or size up 2 inches for any other non raw wash which would mean someone should then size up 4 inches for the raw shrink to fit 1955s.
I have learned that lesson with my levi's! I always get them one size bigger, because if you wash them, if you wash them regularly! They tend to shrink. My jeans i wash them like every 3 to 4 months depending on the use of them. But that's good to know!
Agreed!! One size up is the way!
These seem to drop Fridays post work. Beer in hand. Solid content as always!
Looks like we have a similar upload schedule! And ty!!
hey good to see you here
@@TheIronSnail its kia-hara ( i believe)
What is sad is that these are not actually the most accurate reproduction of a Levi's 1947 501. Unfortunately for Levi's, there are Japanese brands that do actually make more accurate reproductions of older Levis with Conners Sewing Factory being the first that comes to mind.
I'll have to check them out!
@@TheIronSnail I'd also suggest Warehouse for that category. CSF is hard to get, but Warehouse is much more readily available.
Oh I actually love warehouse!
@@TheIronSnail ok I figured you would be aware of them. CSF/One Piece of Rock is more obscure. Freewheelers is another one that does some solid Levi's repros, but CSF is the most accurate down to using only period correct sewing machines. I have a LVC triple pleat that I love, but sadly their accuracy is not actually very good despite them being Levi's
The ~$290 1947 STF on the Levi's site are actually made in Japan
Recently shrank my 1947 (USA made cone Mills) and I’m upset I didn’t get as much leg twist as you 😂 hopefully with future washes! Also as far as price you have to add in R&D as well when talking about reproducing replicas which brands like buzz ricksons does on basically a molecular level 😅 not saying LVC goes so far but still! Anyways awesome videos man love seeing you more often keep it up 👏🏼
Thank you so much! And yeah Buzz Rickson goes nuts!
Just bought one. Awesome look, fit and feel.
Cone Mills Loomchatter = Drop it like it's hot. I can't unhear or unsee that.
Love all your videos. The mod at malefashion is probably seething at your success.
It’s all we want! And ty!
Great video! you should do a fade update on the 1947 lvc if you still have them . I’m curious to see how they held up compared to standard stock 501’s
I do wish I had believed them when they told me on that camp sleepaway that even the farthest part of that metal grill part would be very hot. It was.
“How can that be hot it’s so far away”
Having seen the movie, if all you got from sleepaway camp was a grill burn, consider yourself lucky.
They brought back the big e on the tag that’s a pretty cool detail
Also you should read ametora it has a decent chunk of the history of japanese denim
A detail i forgot to mention! And deal!
TCB do a early Levis copy, can get them on some sites for about $150.
TCB is one of the best repo brands!
I bought three Levi Jeans today, one of the them are made in Egypt, the other made in Vietnam, and the last one made in Pakistan 😆
Haha geez!
Grácias. Me visto de blue jeans desde 1951...el 501 es mi preferido,los uso mucho los lavo poco, y con agua fría...duran más y su precio no sube mucho aunque venden más...Levi's es mi preferido para cualquier ocasión. Es económico llevar puesto un blue jeans
Last time I checked, Sugar Cane 1947 were 455.00 U$D..!!! Might as well go for the legendary Iron Heart!
36 does in fact exist i have many lvc 501's my favorites are probably the 1955 as they have the highest rise (and then have the legs tapered by a levi's taylor)
Ah! I’m mistaken then!
The editing is fantastic.
Ty ty ty!
Ok, makes sense...🤘🏼💯✔️
I used to work at a Levi's and we always got random returns from the online store. The heart break when a guy dropped these off and i could not fit them.
Now that’s a modern day tragedy
My oldest 501 (black) is from 1993 - and guess what? The fabric is still spot on, albeit serveral times of courses being repainted, recolored with black color, because you do know...the sun, uv and the color is fading...over time. But the quality back then was there, still. Not like the 70-80s...but still great. Nowadays ?!?! A 501? Nevermore that long lasting, ever. Fabrics are thin, and easily being ripped apart after some time...because it's very thin, compared to decades ago. Scheduled obsolescence, it is...sad, but true.
6.15 made me a fan! 😂 ❤️
They might be using the LVC line to maintain trademarks on the models. Similar to how they still manufacture 10% of their red tabs blank, to keep the trademark on the red tab, and not just a brand name logo.
The missing bottons probably had to do with them needing the brass for bullets!
I’m sure someone told you but the fire that plagued San Fran was in 1906 4 years after Levi Strauss died
Fantastic a thorough LVC Repro education & comedy ! Your funny so…. IM IN 🔔
Meh. If you ask me, the price is to justify LVC's marketing budget. Kaihara also supplies Uniqlo's selvedge denim and they are Japan's largest denim manufacturer. Cone Denim IS still around. The White Oak plant closed but the Cone Denim company (and looms) moved like a town or two away in NC and have been concentrating on making their own denim. If these were USA made and produced in smaller quantities, mayyybeeee they could justify $260? But, like you said, the selvedge market is so wide open right now with boutique manufacturers who will make you much better jeans for a much lower cost, I don't know who the market is for these? I actually have a pair of their White Oak jeans that I found in a thrift store a few years back and were no great shakes so I turned them into jorts. The ultimate insult!
A ruthless jort conversion! And yeah I agree on that 100% the more I learn and read it seems like Kaihara can just handle the volume. Plus yes! I deleted it for time but Vidalia mills is right around the corner! I was thinking they used the transition as a cost saver?
@@TheIronSnail It makes total sense that the largest denim brand in the west would source their denim from Japan's largest plant, but to act like this is somehow special when you can buy the same denim at Uniqlo for $60 is nuts! I forgot that Bravestar actually uses Cone Mills denim in most of their jeans. And they do all their manufacturing in America too. AND their jeans are $99?! I know they don't have the overhead Levis does but, $260? For real?
So true!! Bravestar also has so much cone mills it blows my mind, they still are doing runs with it! + their prices are the most competitive I’ve ever seen! Always blows my mind they can sell them at $99, makes me wonder what markups are with other brands
@@TheIronSnail Also, I'm sorry for shitting all over your LVC's. They are nice jeans but as very, very cheap person - the markup makes my blood boil!
After watching this vid i don't feel so weird anymore. Thanks.
Thank Weston from rose anvil for me subscribing. And do fly out to Utah. That would be awesome
You wanna hear a funny thing? From R&D to manufacturing and sewing everything in LVC is done in Turkey, but as far as I know and see there is not a single Levi's store that sells LVC in Turkey, Not even the official website... I live in Turkey and only time I have found a LVC chino pants was by coincidence. I gotta look into this, maybe mail Levi's directly.
Portugal? Amazing work!!!
for the price Bravestar are hard to beat!
They are definitely a steal!
I second this. I’m currently wearing an amazing pair of White Oak Cone Demin jeans by Bravestar that were about $80. Quality on par with the Naked and Famous pairs I own. Also, Uniqlo makes a great affordable selvedge jean
Sooo much information, I love this
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Great video. I kinda surprised there is still hidden rivets. I was sure, and told, that during ww2 they stooped using them to save metal. Speaking of price, i have LVC Studio Taper, made in japan, they has 284$ retail. And it still fraction of a price for some designer denim, or hi-end luxury brands. I have G-Star raw with retail of 430$ made in India of all places and it makes almost no sesnes, cuz "true luxurious Italian jeans" can be found at 500$ or less. So price is all over the place. They also, afaik, mark up at least 50% up from "real retail price". Aka it still profitable with 50% off, so they can sell it to other stores, and stores can sell them even with discount keeping the profit. Holy damn, my English is worse than usual today.
The English was SPOT ON! Rivets actually came back on this pair! They were slightly after the war
@@TheIronSnail While rivets were dropped altogether at some points during WW2, the hidden rivets were introduced a few years later following some bars and restaurants banning people from wearing riveted jeans because they scratched the chairs. A few years later, a new bartack was introduced.
Not the toe curl in the beginning lmao
I think i started this one with too much sauce
Unbranded 21oz can’t go wrong with them only 126$
Agreed 200%! Also side note...Chance!
501 Jean's are for old school dads that's what you guys said in the 2000s
I was very disappointed with my regular Levi 501's They are alot more expensive over here in the UK and can't really compete with Nudie everlane etc. Just priced themselves out of the UK market
Yeah I actually heard regularly priced Levi’s in the UK are crazy expensive! It’s insane because I wouldn’t spent more than the $50 they charge now for a regular 501 STF but for some reason the UK is super super high
Are they the same quality though? In Europe the jeans are called premium and the tag is sewed on nicely.
Don't pay it. Get original cowboy denim from wrangler cheaper and harder wearing
I had no idea that leg twist was from the process you were stating in the video, and always thought that it was from poor quality Manufacturing.
3. Details chapter title screen had me cackling
My only goal!
do you size your regular, non-LVC 501 STF the same way: additional 2" in the waist and 2" in the inseam?
Dude I just watched the milk denim. I’m digging the content lol
Hey thanks!
Wish they offered modern cut and made levis with the quality of these (leather patch, selvedge etc).
Yes I totally agree!
levis made and crafted jeans are nice, they have selvedge and leather patch and some have even have big E👍
WW2...my pants are twisting...
Michael, what was the colour code of this garment ? Could you please share it ? And thank you for your cool videos, I really love them and can't wait for the new releases !
I bought these Jeans.
I like the denim of these.
But I like the fit of the regular 501s more
Yup that makes sense to me
@@TheIronSnail but with these being my first selvedge denim piece, they opened a whole new world.
Take a looksie at Mr Freedom clothing. They have a bunch of cool, vintage, naval themed designed jeans/pants as well as being assembled in the good ole US of A.
I LOVE Mister Freedom! I really want one of their leather jackets but they come in so short
What are you planning to do with the jeans since they don’t fit?
Burn them! Jk I was planning on doing a video where I go over allll my denim and then i was gonna sell or give these away
Actually, the Turkish textile industry is of premium quality, as it is advertised by many brands and is considered a premium quality. If you wanted to cut costs you wouldn't manufacture in Turkey, you would manufacture in Moldova, Romania, or god forbid south-east Asia or china.
Why would you think made in China wouldn’t be premium quality? I think you simply don’t know much about what’s actually going on in places like China. If they manufactured the Jeans in one of China’s top economic cities the cost of labor is probably significantly higher than in Turkey. In fact if you ever worked in China in one of those cities you couldn’t even afford a house, they are so much more expensive than housing in USA. I’ve had clothes made in China of which labor costs higher than labor in the USA.
Man do you have to come to Mexico
I'm just ticked off it used to be MIA and then made in Turkey with japanese fabric
Just MAKE IT ALL IN JAPAN! would make everyone like them more, make it MIJ!
MIJ would be crazy! The more I read on Turkey the more I realize they have INSANE manufacturing and even denim producing too!
I just bought a pair of Levi 501 selvage that’s made in Japan. I’m guessing made in Turkey just costs more. They could’ve just had it made in China but I think people may not buy them if that’s the case due to China having a bad rep (even though Turkey is definitely not a better country than China but most people don’t know anything about Turkey so there you go)
Great review! I always wear W34 in standard 511’s, or any other brand. Will I be fine with W34 in these? Thanks!
Just ordered a used pair for £29 ($36)
OH WOW I LIKE THAT FACT
Sandals with black socks (?)
What I know is we don't have a good trade agreement with Japan not like Canada so naked and famous. So Japan and Canada work better and it's cheaper for them compared to us if we got the denim ship here and made here. So that's why Levi's gets the raw material ship it to an other country where it's cheaper to import and boom bam that's how it goes
I like the fit of jeans you see in old 50s photos. Large. Comfortable. Loose.
A great look I just agree!
Bravestar, Gustin, Unbranded and Naked & Famous are better options.
My jeans were made in Japan and I got the leg twist too 🤓 now I just need to soak them again for 30m, because the 1st time they barely shrinked 😅
Shall I soak them in cold water again? 🤓
Leg twist is called skew
Did the 1954 Levi's have four buttons before the top one??
10:41 nice pun...LOL
I bought some 1947 501s and sadly they’re too small after shrinking and I’m heart broken
Id get portuese cotton its good quality
Levis 501❤
Waist 29, I have one 1944 reproduction of the same size produce in 2002 and my waist now is 31/32
Good video 👍 , but does anyone know if a 33 leg on a pair of 501 new ones are a collector item as it's a miss cut because they should be 32W32L
Please a link to the ones you’re wearing
Mutton chops….also known as buggers grips…..😂
i got a pair of the made in usa versions from eBay for 130.
i love eBay.
A steal!
I bought the 1954 501s a few months ago and went two sizes up to a 30 and they’re still tight on the waist so got some new ones (different wash) in a 32 fingers crossed they’re right, or maybe I’ve just gotten thicker
Hahaha no no it’s the jeans! They are tight for sure
Love your vids man! Just got the 1954 501's Rinse in my normal size (31),. Definitely a bit tight in the waist and will need to size up. Do you have any experience with LVC's rinse models?
Oh sweet! I do not! Maybe one day though
Great content Michael! Are you gonna do an update video on your Freenote Cloth RJ-2 jacket?
:/ actually sold it! The bald patches on it were really getting to me
Bummer! I’ve been wanting that jacket but That patchy thing has me on the fence.
I actually spoke to another guy that has one and he LOVES his AND he has no patching on it so I think mine really was a fluke
I’ve run into my fair share of lemon products, not fun. It still sounds like a great coat though. I’ll probably pick one up at some point. Thanks for the response man!
Levis501 is always Worth!!👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖
They make these in a black selvedge as well. Will those also shrink?
Can anyone help, please?
Soaked them 30m in cold water and they didn't shrinked. Soaked them again in warm water and got the same results.
Washed them in 30° and Nothing again...
I'm now stuck with a size 31" and need a 30" 😔 =((((((
1947 is a big year for Levis
Agreed!
Like your channel man, I'll stick around. Hey I'm whipping up a few sample pairs of jeans. Into it?
Yes!
Leg twists are not so attractive for expensive jeans that's why some people forget to wash them, or rather donate them!!