Much like Tree Sentinel, the first Furnace Golem you find is likely meant to be a lesson that not everything needs to be fought the instant you see it, and it's fine to leave and come back later. Introducing the new Scadutree Blessings system probably needed a bit of a speedbump like this to get players to realize how important they'd be for the rest of their journey in the Land of Shadow.
I found that Ascetic who jumps down and beats you up for your lunch money right after the first grace to be more of a wake up call than the Furnace Golem honestly. The first golem is pretty trivial, albeit tedious, to kill if you jump to dodge the stomp attacks.
The one before the cerulean coast was spamming it over and over again which essentially zones you out. I got so annoyed with that one I left it alone to fight it another day
They quite literally are walking war crimes. I don't think Marika wanted it any other way. She wanted the Hornsent expunged from the world, and she wanted it to be a truly violent spectacle.
@@kylekillgannon There is Tarnished now who basically can massacre the entire Marika's family tree and then burn this world with frenzied flame, pretty good ending
It didn't upset me as much as seeing Shamans being abducted / tortured / sliced to pieces and be stuffed in jars for their creepy rituals One can say whatever he likes but the Hornsent (for what they did to Marika's people and others like Midra) really had this one coming
I'm so glad Elden Ring finally has its own "boss literally just made out of corpses" to add to the great soulsborne pantheon, including Nito, the Rotten, The One Reborn, and more
Aldrich would be a better match for that. He's famous for having eaten many people. so many people that his body turned into an amorphous mass of sludge. He only looks like Gwyndolin because he ate him recently.
The last clip you used, of the furnace golem shooting a giant stream of fire. I can’t help but feel the fact that it’s shot in a spiral pattern is at least a little bit important, considering how much spirals matter in Hornsent culture. Could be nothing, could be another layer of mockery and humiliation from Marika and her order
Every little thing about the furnace golem is a mockery of everything the hornsent believed to be sacred while it's hunting them. The "fingers" are a spiral. The beam is a spiral. The horns on the visage are spiraled. The tree used to build the golem is sacred. It uses hornsent as fuel as well as torturous mockery(mirroring what the hornsent did to "shamans").
@@kairu_aname I´m aware and I feel it´s somewhat justified but holy hell, this is an incredible level of anger and lust for revenge. I guess everything is more extreme when your a god.
Seeing the fire spiral laser they shoot out from a distance is menacing. Can you imagine, being one of the hornsent who's existence thrives upon worshipping a holy spiral that's trying to reach the heavens, seeing a column of flame, something they so vehemently despise, spiral and reaching higher than any incantation the hornsent have been able to conjure themselves? I wouldn't be surprised if that was specifically designed that way to strike a form of fear not just toward the hornsent, but the very heavenly gods they worship
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It definitely seems like the dragons' body may be a key component in animating the golems, especially since the Guardian Golem's emit a disembodied draconic roar sound from inside their own burning cores as they're standing around idle, too. Even the idea of Spirit Ashes being summonable from the remains of their ashes explicitly seems to reinforce that core concept. The Furnace Golems also make the detail in the Surging Frenzied Flame especially noteworthy, _“Spirits are eternal, and yet the frenzied flame melts them away regardless. No wonder the hornsent forbid the flame's use.”_
theres also the idea that dragon corpses remain "alive" to some extent, which is why you can draw power from their hearts and people who do will one day transform into magma wyrms, overwhelmed by the dragons vital essence or somesuch. Bayle is powerful enough that the description of his heart outright states that he will basically be fully reincarnated into whoever consumes the heart. So it seems reasonable to think that this "vital force" in the dragons corpse might be what animates the golems.
@@zoid_on_youtube Not to dive TOO deeply into the weeds, but the core difference between the Faith-based Lightning of the Dragon Cult (and Placidusax's Ruin) Vs. the Arcane-based Blood/Flame primal manifestations of Dragon Communion (and Bayle's Tyrrany) primarily come from the Daoist dualism of Hun & Po Souls, the former being the ethereal Yang soul made of light, and the later being the physical Yin soul that remains linked to the physical corpse. Japanese adaptations of Western Fantasy magic systems almost always intertwines with Chinese Onmyodo for the foundation of the Yin/Yang themes of dark & light (and often the lunar & solar and/or female & male themes) that tie into the depictions of magic (which varies widely based off of if it's utilizing the classic Four Elements, the Chinese Five Elements, or the Shinto Five Elements as an elemental foundation, or creating something else entirely). Even the two draconic transformation items reflect this with the Priestess Heart (Dragon Cult) _“The priestess was once an ancient dragon herself, but sacrificed that form for feeble flesh to aid in the destruction of Bayle the Dread.”_ where she even offers her sleep to Placidusax, vs. the Stone Heart (Dragon Communion) _“The last thing the partaker saw with human eyes was a sunset, its colors faded and tarnished - a remote thing from eternity.”_ So the concept of inextinguishable fire being oppressively catalyzed by setting a dragon corpse on fire definitely holds, but especially with the lesser dragons as they're associated with fire & the Arcane (vs. the ancient dragons centered around lightning & Faith), and their power can be transferred through destruction & integration with physical material (vs. being clad in lightning as a gift like Vyke & Godwyn were).
@@PierceArner thats really interesting, I didnt know about those inspirations behind Fromsofts depiction of dragons, but it makes a lot of sense. But it also makes Bayle especially interesting as he seems to posess traits of both Ancient and modern dragons. I think hes supposed to be the originator of the modern dragon species, and even his breath is both fire and lightning at once. Do you have any insight on how that might play into that Yin-Yang interpretation of the dragons?
@@zoid_on_youtube So the Fulgurbloom flowers are Lightning (Fulgur) representing the Ancient Dragons' power, whereas the Calorblooms blossoming from the heat of the Dragon Communion dead are Heat (Calor), showing that sort of division. Bayle's Talisman explicitly raises the damage of magma, which is something that's actually specific to ONLY Wyrms - individuals who have transformed their entire bodies from Dragon Communion and are basically vomiting up their own blood that's turned to magma. Theodorix the Troll was the Great Wyrm, but this is something that pushes well beyond that. The conflict between the Ancient & Lesserborn Dragons initiated the practice of Dragon Communion because they employed humans to hunt down and murder their lesser bretheren with harpoons and gave them the tools to purge them. Something Bayle does that no other dragons do is that he practices Dragon Communion. Even the massive dragon by where the Priestess is found has its heart eaten out, and countless others are slaughtered on the way up the peak to where Bayle is. Two of Placidusax's heads are fused to Bayle's back, which I think is how he's utilizing the power of lightning, but especially to the degree he is. (The other lesser Dragon that's fighting with its brother where you encounter Igon is also using orange lightning as it seems to be following Bayle's practice of attempting to feed on its own kind). Omen-like horns curl around Bayle's face, and his physicality & posture are decidedly more human-like compared to the Lesser Dragons. His shattered limbs mean that he's even using Dragon Communion techniques in order to manifest wings artificially to be able to fly in his Phase 2. While he may have been a Lesser Dragon who fought to survive, given his unique facial design, personally I think Bayle the Dread was a human who was the most ruthless slayer of the Lesser Dragons - but even through Communion from his victories as he grew more & more draconic in power… it only meant that the Ancient Dragons who employed his services grew to despise and hate him even more as he became representative of everything they hated in their lesser Bretheren. Thus his ire eventually grew to align with the feelings of those he hunted, but he held no love for them, only envy. Being the enemy of everyone now made his emotions turn into a seething hatred of everything even as he desired it's power, which is why the Elder hornsent ghost in the shack where his talisman is found aligns with him rising up against the classism and tearing down everyone else. Physically, everything about Igon's destroyed body, his inner Drake nature, his helpless fear, and using rage to give himself power again are SUCH an overt parallel to Bayle himself, that I can't imagine he's not human, especially given the new items that allow for full draconic physical transformations being added as a part of this questline.
Some trivia, these golems also have striking similarity with chaos eater from dark souls 1, they even shares a similar grab, where they put you inside the top of their head and the player begins to swirl around in a windwirl animation.
I thought so at first but now i kinda find it enjoyable. The sound when you stagger each of the legs is so satisfying. Kinda wish it was something more to the fight itself tho instead of just slapping their legs
Certainly one of the worst fights Fromsoft has ever designed but they do look really cool. Sadly I feel like that's a bit of a trend for the enemies in this DLC.
With regards to loading the golems, they also did this in the Lands Between with Walking Mausoleums, you can see them from miles away. Great example is going to Castle Sol and seeing the turtle in the Consecrated Snowfields. I imagine the Golems were also loaded in a similar way.
I don't remember if the golems animate at their lowest LOD, but the Mausoleums definitely don't: the one you can see looking down at the Consecrated Snowfield from the Mountaintop of the Giants looks very dopey just standing around.
That wouldve been great. Honestly theres a lot of cosmetic stuff i wish was in elden ring... i was hoping midra would drop the frenzied flame helmet from the ending....
These guys are also seemingly a twisted version of the jars that the hornsent shoved the shamans into. I wouldn't be surprised if Marika herself thought of these things.
Two thing we can also notice: -The fire proyectiles follows you because they are the soul of those who are inside him. -Golem face expression changes when you break their posture and falls.
do they? it's hard to tell since you gotta be right up on their leg in order to topple them not really giving you a chance to look at the small face they have until its already on the ground and even then, the main concern at that point is getting the riposte off.
I'm just imagining a dragon flying over the head of a furnace golem smirking in smugness, unleashing some breath attack only for the golem to jump and go "GOTCHA BITCH!" before than turning it into some nice spicy crispy wings. Just me?
anyway, if you closely watch elden ring boss vs boss rigged battles, the furnace golem is the new strongest boss ever, it could even beat consort radahn
1:50 Something to note: when you fight Morgott, if you look at his body after, despite him still being "alive", his Omen horns are entirely absent. Every single one. The same thing happens to Godrick and his grafts, and Godfrey with Serosh. Its possible that in all cases, including with the hornsent, these are all spiritual in nature in spite of their physicality. So, if the Furnace Golems burn both body and soul, then its entirely plausible they are hornsent, just with their horns burnt away.
I wonder if the Furnace Golems were originally putting Hornsent in themselves to use as fuel, but as things progressed, they kinda lost control or they were abandoned on the field still active, so now they just grab whatever walks by and shove it into their furnace. That would explain hornless humans and the horse being jammed into it. An autonomous war machine that's been left to its own devices and is still running, now a danger to everyone for its sheer power.
Horses being inside make a lot of sense. These were used as engines of war, and a lot of people would've been fighting on horseback. It probably picked up a shit ton of riders and just tossed them in.
I wonder if that specific Hornsent who said these cruel words to the shamans lived long enough to be subject to similar cruelties by Messmer’s crusaders when they invaded. I don’t know how long Hornsent lived but assuming he lived to see the crusade take place, I can only imagine it shifting from him whipping shamans with tooth whips and shoving them in jars like it's an ordinary day to him being captured by the crusaders before enduring days of being beaten and branded by serpent flails while being yelled at with slurs and obscenities by them such as being “Graceless scum” who’s only purpose is to be hunted, dehorned, impaled and burned before being forced to march alongside fellow Hornsent who’ve been rounded up, beaten, branded and dehorned to a furnace golem that has yet to come to life. As the Hornsent are being pushed and crammed inside the golem to the point where’s it’s getting hard to breathe, they are given a speech by a Black Knight captain who says that though they are graceless vermin with no place in the order, their lives will at least serve one purpose: as kindling for their holy crusade. The Hornsent suddenly reminisces on those shamans back in Bonny Village and realizes that he has become a victim to the same cruelties he inflicted on them. However, he has no time to think of his current predicament as the crusaders set the golem aflame and the screams of countless Hornsent and the stench of their burning flesh fill the air as the golem comes to life. So ends the life of one Hornsent among thousands, now used to fuel a lifeless machine of death and murder as it marches onto the battlefield. And so, the crusade continues.
@gsc8713 Some of them, yes, but not all. You can't condemn every single person in a culture because of the actions of their religion or government. There may well have been Hornsent that opposed the barbarism of the Gaols or didn't even know about them. After all, the Hornsent almost certainly had children among them.
I was confused when I read the furnace visage description and it said the Golems faces were meant to represent the Fell God. I didn’t realize it meant the entire face was supposed to be the eye, that’s cool.
Dude Zullie is such a badass! Ever since I saw you beginning this sincere “deep dive” into Fromsoft games; knowing that inspiration for all of them had to have come from several knowledgeable people on the projects: I always thought “this channel is gonna grow; PLENTY to work w/“ As always; *love* the vid & appreciate the work Zullie👍✌️
The design of the furnace golems seems to be a sort of twisted karmic retribution towards the Hornsent approved by Messmer and Marika. The shamans were mutilated, then stuffed into jars to become saints by the Hornsent so in response, Marika orders her son Messmer to wage a brutal, genocidal war against the Land of Shadow with his most prominent war machine being the massive furnace golems where the Hornsent themselves are rounded up in droves, dead or alive (but most likely still alive for extra cruelty), to be stuffed in the golems and lit aflame to bring it to life. Imagine the screams and howls of terror and agony and the smell of burning flesh as the golem surges to life; An instrument of death’s first gasps of “life” brought forth by the deaths of so many within its frame to serve as fuel for the golem as it marches over the land as an instrument of terror, destruction and mockery as it wears the horned mask of the fell god of fire the Hornsent so feared.
It's especially poignant if the crusade is meant to take place AFTER the war against the Fire Giants. It's a reminder of what the Golden Order is capable of, and the religious aspect is even more fucked up. "I killed your God. I killed your Devil. You're next."
Vaati viewer spotted lol. I now understand what Grandam meant by "the wanton strumpet". she's calling Marika a slut and saying we're serving her to continue killing the hornsent, and that the divine beast will serve us justice for what Messmer and Marika did.
Best part? That one long range attack is a spiral, which we know is considered sacred to the Hornsent. So these machines are using their divine symbol to incinerate their cities 💀
@@Fasumbra Indeed. With the removal of the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, Marika has not only replaced death with rebirth via Erdtree burial AND got rid of a potential threat to her reign, she also turned the entire Land of Shadow into hell where the Hornsent are condemned to be forever tormented and killed by the crusaders, unable to die even as spirits and shades. And since every hell needs a devil, Marika chose Messmer for the task.
I am always so blown away and impressed at the work and the sheer attention to detail the devs put into thing that you might not even see, the magnitude of implications and connections to the world and larger story just blow me away. Even if Fromsoftware game games aren’t your thing you have to appreciate everything put into them because it’s world is so well made and done better than most media.
A good way i found to deal with the golems that can have their legs broken is to use ancient lightning strike , without buffs it can break their posture in 4 to 6 hits , but fully charged with lightning physick + godfrey icon you can do +10k damage with one cast and just delete their healthbar , and you can obviously do more damage than this with the scorpion talisman , golden vow , ancient dragon seal
their legs doesnt seem to be affected by posture damage normally and have some weird interaction similiar to iron maidens. It looks like they take posture damage only then their legs light up in fire and even some lighter attacks tend to posture break them in this moment
I was surprised how far away these guys can aggro from, especially since they will lock on and walk pretty swiftly towards you once you enter their range. Not to mention the distance their fire attacks can hone in from. It's like if that one mausoleum in the Consecrated snowfields actively _wanted_ to chase down and kill you rather than just firing off random barrages of magic. Hornsent or not, they're very determined constructs who want to make your life as over as possible (even though fighting them is more tedious than difficult, and throwing giant burning pots into their tops is a guaranteed easy kill!)
there's also that annoying variant in Charo's hidden grave, it's legs are protected by wheels-like plates i interpreted that whoever was in-charge of transporting the dead, like Charon in Greek mythology, was defeated by Messmer.
I love the Furnace Golems. They are my favorite enemy in the DLC. They are pretty trivial to deal with once you know how unfortunately. I just like the big dudes in every game tbh, like how The Last Giant is my favorite DS2 boss.
i believe that the fell god visions were warning signs that messmer was going to raze them also messmer impaled the giants so it's kind of cool to see him reappropriate old enemies into new symbols of fear
this is super interesting. I feel like the storytelling that this is trying to convey is totally that these were made AFTER the golden orders war on the fire giants and the dragons (as they both are used in the crafting of the furnace golems, heads of the fire giants, and the dragon in the furnace golems cauldron.) makes me think these aspects of the golden orders wars are deliberately placed there to give us that idea.
I’ve said it before but the amount of detail Miyazaki and his team put into enemy design is absurd. They knew people like Zullie would snoop around their avatars to dig up more lore
@@joesheridan9451 I would called it garbage, it's a fun little detour in the gameplay, but I understand why it doesn't even have a boss health bar. It's way easier than even the chakram wielding spinning f**kers...
@@Shinigami00Azaelfor me its the reverse, i just use endure on the spinny bois and ignore everything they do, the furnace golems? Hell to fight for me, so boring
I remember there is a bonfire at some ruins in the dlc that has a shit ton of bloodstains all around that I couldn’t figure out why, until I got near a giant and saw its sprial flame attack and immediately connected the dots.
Glad to see you made a video on thse golems they're one of the coolest enemy deisgns I've seen but they're also annoying to fight if you don't have an advantage to throw pots at them lol. Interesting how they're almost as big as the fire giant though they seem a bit bigger and tougher, idk I like big enemies. They are bosses technically but I don't get why they don't get boss healthbars? I also like how each one is different to fight or getting harder the more you explore from early to late. The tears are nice tho I wished you could farm the visage for the pots because they're not plentiful and I wanna do a pot build. Well thank you Zuilie for the lore and this video.
They're a rare drop from the soldiers around the destroyed golem outside the Black Keep, to the right of the entrance. I think it's a rare drop from most, if not all Messmer soldiers. Pop some silver feet or horn tenders and get slaying, jar warrior.
I wonder if the corpse of the dragon feeds the flame in some way. Like an igniter. That would explain how we can bring the dead one back with the hefty fire pot. We reignite the dragon inside and boom, living flame.
Regarding the absence of horns, perhaps the sustained fires eventually caused the horns to crumble away? Alternatively, the horns were cut beforehand as a way to torture and humiliate prisoners. Thanks for covering the first major enemy in the DLC! For a future video, I think it'd be neat to look at one of the first major landmarks, that crux monolith in front of the Scadutree Chalice. It and the chalice seem oddly underused.
It’s honestly saddening knowing that the fire giants culture will continue to be used to strike fear into those without grace in the land of shadows.😔🐱
The fact that these are not just a mockery of the hornsent, but also of one of the other races Marika genocided (horrifying that there are multiple it almost frames how the revenge is just part the power grab in her blind desperation for what she saw as retribution) is quite powerful artistic direction. Truly a horrendous look at the kind of lengths some will go to for revenge and to maintain their own positions of authority, needless to say this oppression led to generations of terrorists and more cycles of violence..
A few years ago, I had a dream where me and a few other people were being pursued through a field by strange shadow people. There were ruined buildings, and a tree we took shelter under. Years later, when I watched my cousin start the dlc, I immediately recognized the starting ruin area as near identical to the dream. Creepiest feeling of my life, area still creeps me out because of it.
The detail that surprised me more is that furnace golem and fire giant have almost same height, I always pictured the fire giant so big that I found it hard to believe that it could realistically traverse the land without destroying everything it walks into
I love how small and derpy the fire giant effigy is hanging from the furnace golem's belt.. It's contrast a that makes the furnace golem look even more horrifying after fighting fire giant
Not really related to the topic here but I just can't get over how the community pulled a full 180 on Mohg, turning him into a fan favorite and Miquella into the weirdo. 🤣 *M I Q U L E S T E D*
@@DefiantYeast0426 *spoiler Warning ahead* Well, until the drop of Shadow of the Erdtree it was common for people to make fun of Mohg for wanting his kid-half-brother as consort. Now that we know Mohg was charmed by Miquella to do everything he's done just so his "fresh body" could be used as a flesh puppet for Radahns soul, who Miquella then took as his consort the community took a *DRASTIC* turn. People now cheer/pity Mohg for being a victim from birth to death and still kicking ass and "hate" on Miquella for being a weirdo who kills people left and right while always being able to appear as innocent and incapable of even doing bad things as possible. Miquella is practically the Griffith of the Elden Ring Verse and he forced Radahn to be his Guts.
It's funny how the community can never escape the cycle of "X character good, Y character bad" and even when they change their minds it's just to flip between who's bad and who's good. No matter how much the game tries to tell us that there's no such thing as pure good/evil, people always end up watering down the characters and missing the point lol.
still very confused about this connection people make regarding a small scene in berserk, when the concept of wickermen in mythology is surely just common knowledge? i feel like the majority of people just know about wickermen in general,
Miyazaki has never been shy about taking inspiration from Berserk. While it probably could've happened without Berserk featuring one, it's easy enough to assume Berserk probably did put a mental pin in it for him.
because Miyazaki likes Berserk and there are a bunch of references to it in both Elden Ring and his previous titles. I really don't think that most people know about wickermen so the odds that he got the idea from Berserk isn't that unlikely.
Far too often, many people conflate mythological references and archetypes to Berserk references which can be quite annoying and a bad showing to Berserk, despite some undeniable influence in Fromsoft’s Souls games. For example, many players have claimed that the circle of large stone swords sticking out of the ground near the starting area as a memorial to Kentaro Miura, Berserk’s author, who died relatively shortly before the game was released and who Miyazaki has noted as an influence; it's not uncommon for players to take screenshots of their characters at the circle or to leave messages near it to "pay respects." This is pure speculation, and no one on the development team has stated it to be such. Not only that, but the circle by the starting area is only one of several monuments that appear throughout the game. Although swords planted in the ground as gravestones do appear in Berserk, the ones in Elden Ring bear a much stronger resemblance to the sculpture “Sverd i fjell” in Norway, in keeping with the Norse themes seen throughout the game.
@@ZullietheWitch i think its definitely fair to say that there are huge inspirations throughout the entirety of the souls games. but i just think the concept of a wickerman is far bigger than a pretty small reference in berserk, so to me it just feels like a big stretch to pin it as the reason for why he included it. its hard to say for sure either way ofc, but imo it seems very unlikely this is a reference to berserk, rather than a reference to very well known mythology (similar to if someone including Zeus in a game was cited as a reference to God of War, rather than just obvious Greek Mythology)
@@wtfryley It may be wrong to say it's "why" he included it, but I think there are goods odds it's snow in or on the snowball that led to it being included, if that makes sense.
My best guess as to the sap being crystallized into tears would be as a form of pine resin burning and solidifying as tears. They could have used it as a propellant to start the fires burning, as pine resin is also highly flammable. Funnily enough, there's ample sap flowing from the Scadutree.
Honestly I really disliked fighting these guys - in both of the ways given. The first time was fine but just hacking their legs and dodging the occasional attack is boring, and throwing pots is annoyingly finicky
Whenever I fight these behemoths, when they do their stomping moves. All that plays inside my head is “Casper’s Cha-Cha Slide.” ONE HOP THIS TIME, THREE HOPS THIS TIME, CRISS CROSS
The sheer scale and power of these things is wild. I can’t imagine the Hornsent were successful in toppling any of them… wtf can knights and wizards do
I just had an idea that could explain a lot. What if Merika’s grand betrayal and “original sin” was burning down the original erdtree? The erdtree is already just a golden illusion with a burnt husk at the base, and Lyndell is covered in ash when we first get there. Her rule was marked by two eras, the age of the erdtree, where Merika used the erdtree sap to give plenty to the world, and the age of the Golden Order, where the erdtree is just a golden illusion. Not to mention Enya calls the burning of the erdtree the original sin in dialogue.
Just giving a shout-out to the shot at 2:07 when you mention the crystal tears being made from the sap of the Scadutree, and you frame the furnace golem directly under the dripping sap from the tree as though its pouring into the open top of the brazier! I always enjoy seeing your choice of framing!
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Much like Tree Sentinel, the first Furnace Golem you find is likely meant to be a lesson that not everything needs to be fought the instant you see it, and it's fine to leave and come back later. Introducing the new Scadutree Blessings system probably needed a bit of a speedbump like this to get players to realize how important they'd be for the rest of their journey in the Land of Shadow.
If the masked crackhead with a pair of knives wasn't convincing enough, the portable californian fire sure brought the point across.
i think the blackgaol knight fits that position a little better.
Big fire basket
I found that Ascetic who jumps down and beats you up for your lunch money right after the first grace to be more of a wake up call than the Furnace Golem honestly. The first golem is pretty trivial, albeit tedious, to kill if you jump to dodge the stomp attacks.
Killed him first try with moonveil like boring as fuck but you can easily not get hit once by him just jumping around in your horse
The fire spirals they shoot out are disgustingly menacing. They go so far.
Is it rare? Non of the golems have used that move yet in my game.
@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTub Not every golem does that move
@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTub there is one in particular that will always use that move if you try to cross a bridge to get to it
The one before the cerulean coast was spamming it over and over again which essentially zones you out. I got so annoyed with that one I left it alone to fight it another day
@@danielboyd7810 Funny, that's like the only one with a worthwhile tear for some builds.
runebears? dragons. wickermen? dragons. first elden lord? dragon. who isnt a dragon at this point
"Meow- I mean roar"
@@kairu_aname”I’m outta here! 😑”
It's dragons all the way down.
@@kairu_anamelol i also thought of the SpongeBob reference
@@ladyabaxa As a fanatical dragon enjoyer, this is good.
These golems seem like walking war crimes honestly, which is saying something in the Elden ring setting.
They quite literally are walking war crimes. I don't think Marika wanted it any other way. She wanted the Hornsent expunged from the world, and she wanted it to be a truly violent spectacle.
@@kylekillgannon
There is Tarnished now who basically can massacre the entire Marika's family tree and then burn this world with frenzied flame, pretty good ending
@@kylekillgannon There's a reason that war could never be put to song, and everyone who was involved was essentially exiled to the Shadowlands.
It didn't upset me as much as seeing Shamans being abducted / tortured / sliced to pieces and be stuffed in jars for their creepy rituals
One can say whatever he likes but the Hornsent (for what they did to Marika's people and others like Midra) really had this one coming
I'm so glad Elden Ring finally has its own "boss literally just made out of corpses" to add to the great soulsborne pantheon, including Nito, the Rotten, The One Reborn, and more
they have a whole ass race of them too, the living jars
Would Wolnir count? He has a bunch of skeletons fused onto his back under the cape.
@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTub aldrich the devourer
Aldrich would be a better match for that. He's famous for having eaten many people. so many people that his body turned into an amorphous mass of sludge. He only looks like Gwyndolin because he ate him recently.
@@Silver-ArrowPoor Gwyndolin😢
The last clip you used, of the furnace golem shooting a giant stream of fire. I can’t help but feel the fact that it’s shot in a spiral pattern is at least a little bit important, considering how much spirals matter in Hornsent culture. Could be nothing, could be another layer of mockery and humiliation from Marika and her order
Every little thing about the furnace golem is a mockery of everything the hornsent believed to be sacred while it's hunting them.
The "fingers" are a spiral.
The beam is a spiral.
The horns on the visage are spiraled.
The tree used to build the golem is sacred.
It uses hornsent as fuel as well as torturous mockery(mirroring what the hornsent did to "shamans").
@@kairu_aname Reminder to never piss of Marika, that goddess has like no chill.
@@SerpenTyxIt was much less about pissing her off and far more personal.
@@tristancallahan8189
Yeah, it was literally her family being tortured and put in jars by the hornsent that started all of it.
VERY personal.
@@kairu_aname I´m aware and I feel it´s somewhat justified but holy hell, this is an incredible level of anger and lust for revenge. I guess everything is more extreme when your a god.
Seeing the fire spiral laser they shoot out from a distance is menacing. Can you imagine, being one of the hornsent who's existence thrives upon worshipping a holy spiral that's trying to reach the heavens, seeing a column of flame, something they so vehemently despise, spiral and reaching higher than any incantation the hornsent have been able to conjure themselves? I wouldn't be surprised if that was specifically designed that way to strike a form of fear not just toward the hornsent, but the very heavenly gods they worship
We can easily tell those golems were made specifically to be the biggest middle finger to the hornsent
@@thecommentguy9380 And they deserve it
A spiral to pierce the heavens you say? Hmm.
@@FENomadtrooper
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It definitely seems like the dragons' body may be a key component in animating the golems, especially since the Guardian Golem's emit a disembodied draconic roar sound from inside their own burning cores as they're standing around idle, too.
Even the idea of Spirit Ashes being summonable from the remains of their ashes explicitly seems to reinforce that core concept. The Furnace Golems also make the detail in the Surging Frenzied Flame especially noteworthy, _“Spirits are eternal, and yet the frenzied flame melts them away regardless. No wonder the hornsent forbid the flame's use.”_
theres also the idea that dragon corpses remain "alive" to some extent, which is why you can draw power from their hearts and people who do will one day transform into magma wyrms, overwhelmed by the dragons vital essence or somesuch. Bayle is powerful enough that the description of his heart outright states that he will basically be fully reincarnated into whoever consumes the heart. So it seems reasonable to think that this "vital force" in the dragons corpse might be what animates the golems.
@@zoid_on_youtube So what you're saying is this is maybe a dead dragon's equivalent of a dreadnaught from the 40k universe.
@@zoid_on_youtube Not to dive TOO deeply into the weeds, but the core difference between the Faith-based Lightning of the Dragon Cult (and Placidusax's Ruin) Vs. the Arcane-based Blood/Flame primal manifestations of Dragon Communion (and Bayle's Tyrrany) primarily come from the Daoist dualism of Hun & Po Souls, the former being the ethereal Yang soul made of light, and the later being the physical Yin soul that remains linked to the physical corpse.
Japanese adaptations of Western Fantasy magic systems almost always intertwines with Chinese Onmyodo for the foundation of the Yin/Yang themes of dark & light (and often the lunar & solar and/or female & male themes) that tie into the depictions of magic (which varies widely based off of if it's utilizing the classic Four Elements, the Chinese Five Elements, or the Shinto Five Elements as an elemental foundation, or creating something else entirely).
Even the two draconic transformation items reflect this with the Priestess Heart (Dragon Cult) _“The priestess was once an ancient dragon herself, but sacrificed that form for feeble flesh to aid in the destruction of Bayle the Dread.”_ where she even offers her sleep to Placidusax, vs. the Stone Heart (Dragon Communion) _“The last thing the partaker saw with human eyes was a sunset, its colors faded and tarnished - a remote thing from eternity.”_
So the concept of inextinguishable fire being oppressively catalyzed by setting a dragon corpse on fire definitely holds, but especially with the lesser dragons as they're associated with fire & the Arcane (vs. the ancient dragons centered around lightning & Faith), and their power can be transferred through destruction & integration with physical material (vs. being clad in lightning as a gift like Vyke & Godwyn were).
@@PierceArner thats really interesting, I didnt know about those inspirations behind Fromsofts depiction of dragons, but it makes a lot of sense. But it also makes Bayle especially interesting as he seems to posess traits of both Ancient and modern dragons. I think hes supposed to be the originator of the modern dragon species, and even his breath is both fire and lightning at once. Do you have any insight on how that might play into that Yin-Yang interpretation of the dragons?
@@zoid_on_youtube So the Fulgurbloom flowers are Lightning (Fulgur) representing the Ancient Dragons' power, whereas the Calorblooms blossoming from the heat of the Dragon Communion dead are Heat (Calor), showing that sort of division. Bayle's Talisman explicitly raises the damage of magma, which is something that's actually specific to ONLY Wyrms - individuals who have transformed their entire bodies from Dragon Communion and are basically vomiting up their own blood that's turned to magma. Theodorix the Troll was the Great Wyrm, but this is something that pushes well beyond that.
The conflict between the Ancient & Lesserborn Dragons initiated the practice of Dragon Communion because they employed humans to hunt down and murder their lesser bretheren with harpoons and gave them the tools to purge them. Something Bayle does that no other dragons do is that he practices Dragon Communion. Even the massive dragon by where the Priestess is found has its heart eaten out, and countless others are slaughtered on the way up the peak to where Bayle is.
Two of Placidusax's heads are fused to Bayle's back, which I think is how he's utilizing the power of lightning, but especially to the degree he is. (The other lesser Dragon that's fighting with its brother where you encounter Igon is also using orange lightning as it seems to be following Bayle's practice of attempting to feed on its own kind). Omen-like horns curl around Bayle's face, and his physicality & posture are decidedly more human-like compared to the Lesser Dragons. His shattered limbs mean that he's even using Dragon Communion techniques in order to manifest wings artificially to be able to fly in his Phase 2.
While he may have been a Lesser Dragon who fought to survive, given his unique facial design, personally I think Bayle the Dread was a human who was the most ruthless slayer of the Lesser Dragons - but even through Communion from his victories as he grew more & more draconic in power… it only meant that the Ancient Dragons who employed his services grew to despise and hate him even more as he became representative of everything they hated in their lesser Bretheren. Thus his ire eventually grew to align with the feelings of those he hunted, but he held no love for them, only envy. Being the enemy of everyone now made his emotions turn into a seething hatred of everything even as he desired it's power, which is why the Elder hornsent ghost in the shack where his talisman is found aligns with him rising up against the classism and tearing down everyone else.
Physically, everything about Igon's destroyed body, his inner Drake nature, his helpless fear, and using rage to give himself power again are SUCH an overt parallel to Bayle himself, that I can't imagine he's not human, especially given the new items that allow for full draconic physical transformations being added as a part of this questline.
Some trivia, these golems also have striking similarity with chaos eater from dark souls 1, they even shares a similar grab, where they put you inside the top of their head and the player begins to swirl around in a windwirl animation.
good point, i didn't think of that, but they are similar aren't they. the tubelike arms as well.
I forgor all about those weird things. Funny how they're also found in Lost Izalith, which is a fire area. Coincidence? I think not!
One grab of them oneshots you and if you are lucky with 1 hp left like me.
@@Brachynogre If you cast Flame, Protect Me before you got grabbed, it'll do negligible damage lol
@@Brachynogre It doesn't oneshots but you need 60 vigor and some serious armour to survive it.
the most tedious and “meh” enemy to fight, but an incredible design and aesthetic.
Wait what its fucking terrifying to fight one.
I thought so at first but now i kinda find it enjoyable. The sound when you stagger each of the legs is so satisfying. Kinda wish it was something more to the fight itself tho instead of just slapping their legs
Yeah the fights have basically nothing to em, they only have spectacle
@@Herr.P hit one leg a few times, stagger, switch to the next, uh oh gotta jump here! okay back to work. very terrifying.
Certainly one of the worst fights Fromsoft has ever designed but they do look really cool. Sadly I feel like that's a bit of a trend for the enemies in this DLC.
these guys really give the sense of being out of a job and not sure what to do with themselves
Imagine one could talk and it just had PTSD.
Most relatable characters
I 100% was expecting something along the lines of "for some of the golem's attacks an invisible dragon is spawned to create them"...
"the golem is actually a helmet on an underground tibia mariner zooming around"
Same tho. Lmao
With regards to loading the golems, they also did this in the Lands Between with Walking Mausoleums, you can see them from miles away. Great example is going to Castle Sol and seeing the turtle in the Consecrated Snowfields. I imagine the Golems were also loaded in a similar way.
I don't remember if the golems animate at their lowest LOD, but the Mausoleums definitely don't: the one you can see looking down at the Consecrated Snowfield from the Mountaintop of the Giants looks very dopey just standing around.
Dragons? Did you just say dragons? Dragons! Dragons!
CURSE YOU BAYLEEEEEEE!
The furnace visage also reminds me of Dung Eaters' sun medallion.
Same, and I can't imagine its a coincidence
@@oliverlarosa8046Apparently, it's the face of the fell god who haunts the tales of the hornsent.
Mf saw guidance, alright.
Of all the masks we're able to wear in this game, I can't believe they don't drop that Fire Giant mask! Would've loved to make a fire samurai build
closest thing is the omensmirk mask i think
Also the big mouth imp too, try farming those guy for near an hour but seem only smithing stone drop from them.
@@LuckyLiarK I wish they dropped that too 😔
That wouldve been great. Honestly theres a lot of cosmetic stuff i wish was in elden ring... i was hoping midra would drop the frenzied flame helmet from the ending....
These guys are also seemingly a twisted version of the jars that the hornsent shoved the shamans into.
I wouldn't be surprised if Marika herself thought of these things.
thats a great point you make
Two thing we can also notice:
-The fire proyectiles follows you because they are the soul of those who are inside him.
-Golem face expression changes when you break their posture and falls.
do they? it's hard to tell since you gotta be right up on their leg in order to topple them not really giving you a chance to look at the small face they have until its already on the ground and even then, the main concern at that point is getting the riposte off.
@@EnergyBurst2 You can see their mouth open while they are staggered. They close it when they stand up again.
Regular face 🗿, Stagger face 😦
@@Pandemoniuss Interesting.
Holy shit this has to be the perfect choice of Music! What a banger track and 100% fitting for a video talking about the Furnace Golems.
I think Zullie uses this on most of their videos
Lots of Zelda and in particular Twilight Princess music and I’m all for it
I thought it was some sort of Soul Reaver music.
zullie must really love twilight princess.
@@ramoraid I mean, it was a fantastic game though.
I'm just imagining a dragon flying over the head of a furnace golem smirking in smugness, unleashing some breath attack only for the golem to jump and go "GOTCHA BITCH!" before than turning it into some nice spicy crispy wings.
Just me?
For a dragon to be burned to death, it’s a rather ironic and shameful way for it to die.
That actually sounds like a cute and wholesome scenario ngl🥺
@@VictorIV0310 In fairness, those are the drakes, descendants of Bayle. They’re already kinda shitty dragons in comparison to the Ancient Dragons
@@blackirontarkus3156 The golems just wanting to give them a hug... they just got too fired up about it.
anyway, if you closely watch elden ring boss vs boss rigged battles, the furnace golem is the new strongest boss ever, it could even beat consort radahn
I couldn't think of a better song than Twilight Princess' Goron temple to go along the subject of giant flaming fuckers
1:50 Something to note: when you fight Morgott, if you look at his body after, despite him still being "alive", his Omen horns are entirely absent. Every single one. The same thing happens to Godrick and his grafts, and Godfrey with Serosh. Its possible that in all cases, including with the hornsent, these are all spiritual in nature in spite of their physicality. So, if the Furnace Golems burn both body and soul, then its entirely plausible they are hornsent, just with their horns burnt away.
I love how they have the "toilet flush attack" straight from Izalith, but colossal-sized
I wonder if the Furnace Golems were originally putting Hornsent in themselves to use as fuel, but as things progressed, they kinda lost control or they were abandoned on the field still active, so now they just grab whatever walks by and shove it into their furnace. That would explain hornless humans and the horse being jammed into it. An autonomous war machine that's been left to its own devices and is still running, now a danger to everyone for its sheer power.
Well they kill tons of messmers soldiers as well. The camp outside shadow keep will often be wiped out entirely if you aggro the furnace golem
Horses being inside make a lot of sense. These were used as engines of war, and a lot of people would've been fighting on horseback. It probably picked up a shit ton of riders and just tossed them in.
The Fell God's medalion actually show that the face in the center is that the Fell Gods, and that they had two eyes.
specimen storage being filled to the brim with horns could imply that victims to be used for kindling are de-horned prior to
maybe the horns burn first? who knows
I wonder if that specific Hornsent who said these cruel words to the shamans lived long enough to be subject to similar cruelties by Messmer’s crusaders when they invaded.
I don’t know how long Hornsent lived but assuming he lived to see the crusade take place, I can only imagine it shifting from him whipping shamans with tooth whips and shoving them in jars like it's an ordinary day to him being captured by the crusaders before enduring days of being beaten and branded by serpent flails while being yelled at with slurs and obscenities by them such as being “Graceless scum” who’s only purpose is to be hunted, dehorned, impaled and burned before being forced to march alongside fellow Hornsent who’ve been rounded up, beaten, branded and dehorned to a furnace golem that has yet to come to life.
As the Hornsent are being pushed and crammed inside the golem to the point where’s it’s getting hard to breathe, they are given a speech by a Black Knight captain who says that though they are graceless vermin with no place in the order, their lives will at least serve one purpose: as kindling for their holy crusade.
The Hornsent suddenly reminisces on those shamans back in Bonny Village and realizes that he has become a victim to the same cruelties he inflicted on them.
However, he has no time to think of his current predicament as the crusaders set the golem aflame and the screams of countless Hornsent and the stench of their burning flesh fill the air as the golem comes to life.
So ends the life of one Hornsent among thousands, now used to fuel a lifeless machine of death and murder as it marches onto the battlefield. And so, the crusade continues.
The hornsent deserved it tbh
@gsc8713 Some of them, yes, but not all. You can't condemn every single person in a culture because of the actions of their religion or government. There may well have been Hornsent that opposed the barbarism of the Gaols or didn't even know about them. After all, the Hornsent almost certainly had children among them.
He went from saying "your place is in the jar" to being told " your place is in the golem". The karma is just so delicious here
@@gsc8713Roundhouse kick a hornsent
So, the holy war of the realm of shadow was actually kinda tight
Seeing the birds eye view of the tornado just kills me. The reach is insane and trying to outrun it is an absolute thrill lol
I was confused when I read the furnace visage description and it said the Golems faces were meant to represent the Fell God. I didn’t realize it meant the entire face was supposed to be the eye, that’s cool.
Dude Zullie is such a badass!
Ever since I saw you beginning this sincere “deep dive” into Fromsoft games; knowing that inspiration for all of them had to have come from several knowledgeable people on the projects: I always thought “this channel is gonna grow; PLENTY to work w/“
As always; *love* the vid & appreciate the work Zullie👍✌️
2:53 underrated point. they tie the map together sweetly. you look over the view and see them and can't wait to get there
The design of the furnace golems seems to be a sort of twisted karmic retribution towards the Hornsent approved by Messmer and Marika.
The shamans were mutilated, then stuffed into jars to become saints by the Hornsent so in response, Marika orders her son Messmer to wage a brutal, genocidal war against the Land of Shadow with his most prominent war machine being the massive furnace golems where the Hornsent themselves are rounded up in droves, dead or alive (but most likely still alive for extra cruelty), to be stuffed in the golems and lit aflame to bring it to life.
Imagine the screams and howls of terror and agony and the smell of burning flesh as the golem surges to life; An instrument of death’s first gasps of “life” brought forth by the deaths of so many within its frame to serve as fuel for the golem as it marches over the land as an instrument of terror, destruction and mockery as it wears the horned mask of the fell god of fire the Hornsent so feared.
It's especially poignant if the crusade is meant to take place AFTER the war against the Fire Giants. It's a reminder of what the Golden Order is capable of, and the religious aspect is even more fucked up.
"I killed your God. I killed your Devil. You're next."
Vaati viewer spotted lol. I now understand what Grandam meant by "the wanton strumpet". she's calling Marika a slut and saying we're serving her to continue killing the hornsent, and that the divine beast will serve us justice for what Messmer and Marika did.
Best part? That one long range attack is a spiral, which we know is considered sacred to the Hornsent. So these machines are using their divine symbol to incinerate their cities 💀
And there is no true death for them. I imagine there are some still 'aware' in the pile.
@@Fasumbra Indeed. With the removal of the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, Marika has not only replaced death with rebirth via Erdtree burial AND got rid of a potential threat to her reign, she also turned the entire Land of Shadow into hell where the Hornsent are condemned to be forever tormented and killed by the crusaders, unable to die even as spirits and shades. And since every hell needs a devil, Marika chose Messmer for the task.
You should cover that GIANT dragon that is literally on the map, I’m curious about that Goliath.
Me too
That seems to be the discarded body of the dragon priestess nearby if you go by the heart item description.
@@SewersyrupI doubt it, the priestess is supposedly an ancient dragon, not a drake
Greyolls mate perhaps
maybe the mother of drakes? like how greyoll is wyverns mother or something
I am always so blown away and impressed at the work and the sheer attention to detail the devs put into thing that you might not even see, the magnitude of implications and connections to the world and larger story just blow me away. Even if Fromsoftware game games aren’t your thing you have to appreciate everything put into them because it’s world is so well made and done better than most media.
Damn, the closeup shows how grisly the golems’ materials were.
Furnace golems are such amazing tools of environmental storytelling that I love them. This DLC is goty tier
A good way i found to deal with the golems that can have their legs broken is to use ancient lightning strike , without buffs it can break their posture in 4 to 6 hits , but fully charged with lightning physick + godfrey icon you can do +10k damage with one cast and just delete their healthbar , and you can obviously do more damage than this with the scorpion talisman , golden vow , ancient dragon seal
their legs doesnt seem to be affected by posture damage normally and have some weird interaction similiar to iron maidens. It looks like they take posture damage only then their legs light up in fire and even some lighter attacks tend to posture break them in this moment
Just use pest threads
love the lore in this game
I was surprised how far away these guys can aggro from, especially since they will lock on and walk pretty swiftly towards you once you enter their range. Not to mention the distance their fire attacks can hone in from. It's like if that one mausoleum in the Consecrated snowfields actively _wanted_ to chase down and kill you rather than just firing off random barrages of magic. Hornsent or not, they're very determined constructs who want to make your life as over as possible (even though fighting them is more tedious than difficult, and throwing giant burning pots into their tops is a guaranteed easy kill!)
Talking about their size reminded me about the MASSIVE Armoured Core enemies and players and EVERYTHING!
i like how they brought back winter lanterns for the dlc
Summer lanterns
The perfect inverse
"Shouldn't be too impactful" My game lags every time the Divine Beast pans the camera up or down.
there's also that annoying variant in Charo's hidden grave, it's legs are protected by wheels-like plates
i interpreted that whoever was in-charge of transporting the dead, like Charon in Greek mythology, was defeated by Messmer.
I love the Furnace Golems. They are my favorite enemy in the DLC. They are pretty trivial to deal with once you know how unfortunately. I just like the big dudes in every game tbh, like how The Last Giant is my favorite DS2 boss.
???
It's such a boring fight.
Some of the best Elden ring lore content on RUclips keep it up Zullie🎉
These guys are so cool! Really adds to the oppressive vibe of the shadow lands.
Imagine the sheer terror these must've inflicted on the folk. They literally burn everything around and ahead of them in a matter of seconds.
Finally! More Zullie content!.
i believe that the fell god visions were warning signs that messmer was going to raze them
also messmer impaled the giants so it's kind of cool to see him reappropriate old enemies into new symbols of fear
I was impressed with the furnace pot puzzle where the tarnished throws one into the top of a sleeping furnace golem to activate it and clear a path.
They are honestly terrifying
this is super interesting. I feel like the storytelling that this is trying to convey is totally that these were made AFTER the golden orders war on the fire giants and the dragons (as they both are used in the crafting of the furnace golems, heads of the fire giants, and the dragon in the furnace golems cauldron.) makes me think these aspects of the golden orders wars are deliberately placed there to give us that idea.
something about the zoomed out shot at the end looks so good
These things have a high HP pool as well,your gonna need alot of power to take these things down
There's a dragon inside what?
Yo we threw a dragon into your fire golem so could make more fire while making fire!
My bussy
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@@ilikestamps2978 on purpose?
@@ilikestamps2978a bad dragon you could say?
I’ve said it before but the amount of detail Miyazaki and his team put into enemy design is absurd. They knew people like Zullie would snoop around their avatars to dig up more lore
when elden ring dlc turns a whole ass remembrance boss into a field enemy
Nah, they are too easy for a remembrance boss...
If this garbage was a remembrance boss id ask for a refund
@@joesheridan9451 I would called it garbage, it's a fun little detour in the gameplay, but I understand why it doesn't even have a boss health bar. It's way easier than even the chakram wielding spinning f**kers...
@@Shinigami00Azaelfor me its the reverse, i just use endure on the spinny bois and ignore everything they do, the furnace golems? Hell to fight for me, so boring
@@joesheridan9451 Literally more interesting than Yhorm the Giant or ANY ds2 giant boss lmao.
I just now realized what your PFP and name are based on.
Makes it 10000x times cuter and wholesome
Now we just need to solidify the connection with Dung Eater given he literally wears an effigy like that around his neck
I remember there is a bonfire at some ruins in the dlc that has a shit ton of bloodstains all around that I couldn’t figure out why, until I got near a giant and saw its sprial flame attack and immediately connected the dots.
Glad to see you made a video on thse golems they're one of the coolest enemy deisgns I've seen but they're also annoying to fight if you don't have an advantage to throw pots at them lol. Interesting how they're almost as big as the fire giant though they seem a bit bigger and tougher, idk I like big enemies. They are bosses technically but I don't get why they don't get boss healthbars? I also like how each one is different to fight or getting harder the more you explore from early to late. The tears are nice tho I wished you could farm the visage for the pots because they're not plentiful and I wanna do a pot build. Well thank you Zuilie for the lore and this video.
They're a rare drop from the soldiers around the destroyed golem outside the Black Keep, to the right of the entrance.
I think it's a rare drop from most, if not all Messmer soldiers. Pop some silver feet or horn tenders and get slaying, jar warrior.
They can call them Furnace Golems but I will always call them Wicker Men and think about Nick Cage yelling OH GOD NOT THE BEES every time I see one.
I wonder if the corpse of the dragon feeds the flame in some way. Like an igniter. That would explain how we can bring the dead one back with the hefty fire pot. We reignite the dragon inside and boom, living flame.
What dead one back ? Sounds cool
@@DayMan.. I don't recall the name of the area. It's like a graveyard for these things. One of them you can bring back
@@DayMan.. its in the ruins of unte
Regarding the absence of horns, perhaps the sustained fires eventually caused the horns to crumble away? Alternatively, the horns were cut beforehand as a way to torture and humiliate prisoners. Thanks for covering the first major enemy in the DLC! For a future video, I think it'd be neat to look at one of the first major landmarks, that crux monolith in front of the Scadutree Chalice. It and the chalice seem oddly underused.
It’s honestly saddening knowing that the fire giants culture will continue to be used to strike fear into those without grace in the land of shadows.😔🐱
The fact that these are not just a mockery of the hornsent, but also of one of the other races Marika genocided (horrifying that there are multiple it almost frames how the revenge is just part the power grab in her blind desperation for what she saw as retribution) is quite powerful artistic direction. Truly a horrendous look at the kind of lengths some will go to for revenge and to maintain their own positions of authority, needless to say this oppression led to generations of terrorists and more cycles of violence..
Now put one next to some AC6 Objects
I love the constant use of Zelda music in all your videos.
a large, imposing, overpowering enemy at the start of the first area, used as the tool of a god's army? Wow, the Limgrave parallels just keep coming.
Glad to have the wicker man reference confirmed, as that's the first thing I thought upon seeing one of these things.
A few years ago, I had a dream where me and a few other people were being pursued through a field by strange shadow people. There were ruined buildings, and a tree we took shelter under. Years later, when I watched my cousin start the dlc, I immediately recognized the starting ruin area as near identical to the dream. Creepiest feeling of my life, area still creeps me out because of it.
Quick, tell us the contents of the next FromSoftware game/DLC.
As an aside, I love the use of Twilight Princess's Goron Mines as this video's song.
You kill Furnace Golems for their crystal tears, I kill them to increase my FPS cause they're constantly loaded. We're not the same.
The detail that surprised me more is that furnace golem and fire giant have almost same height, I always pictured the fire giant so big that I found it hard to believe that it could realistically traverse the land without destroying everything it walks into
40 fps Golems
I love how small and derpy the fire giant effigy is hanging from the furnace golem's belt.. It's contrast a that makes the furnace golem look even more horrifying after fighting fire giant
Not really related to the topic here but I just can't get over how the community pulled a full 180 on Mohg, turning him into a fan favorite and Miquella into the weirdo. 🤣
*M I Q U L E S T E D*
I’m behind the curve on this one. What happened?
@@DefiantYeast0426 You have to know some of the new lore, otherwise it's spoilers.
@@DefiantYeast0426
*spoiler Warning ahead*
Well, until the drop of Shadow of the Erdtree it was common for people to make fun of Mohg for wanting his kid-half-brother as consort. Now that we know Mohg was charmed by Miquella to do everything he's done just so his "fresh body" could be used as a flesh puppet for Radahns soul, who Miquella then took as his consort the community took a *DRASTIC* turn. People now cheer/pity Mohg for being a victim from birth to death and still kicking ass and "hate" on Miquella for being a weirdo who kills people left and right while always being able to appear as innocent and incapable of even doing bad things as possible.
Miquella is practically the Griffith of the Elden Ring Verse and he forced Radahn to be his Guts.
It's funny how the community can never escape the cycle of "X character good, Y character bad" and even when they change their minds it's just to flip between who's bad and who's good. No matter how much the game tries to tell us that there's no such thing as pure good/evil, people always end up watering down the characters and missing the point lol.
Everyone kinda suspected already that mohg was actually victim to something related to miquella and his charming charm.
Such a nothing enemy but hey, it’s satisfying seeing their health get deleted with a critical hit
@@Epsonea_482 yeah
After killing all of them i can safely say the one wouldve been enough, they all fight the same so there isnt much new once you find another one
At this point, you just have to think that there's something inside of everything in Elden Ring.
still very confused about this connection people make regarding a small scene in berserk, when the concept of wickermen in mythology is surely just common knowledge? i feel like the majority of people just know about wickermen in general,
Miyazaki has never been shy about taking inspiration from Berserk. While it probably could've happened without Berserk featuring one, it's easy enough to assume Berserk probably did put a mental pin in it for him.
because Miyazaki likes Berserk and there are a bunch of references to it in both Elden Ring and his previous titles. I really don't think that most people know about wickermen so the odds that he got the idea from Berserk isn't that unlikely.
Far too often, many people conflate mythological references and archetypes to Berserk references which can be quite annoying and a bad showing to Berserk, despite some undeniable influence in Fromsoft’s Souls games.
For example, many players have claimed that the circle of large stone swords sticking out of the ground near the starting area as a memorial to Kentaro Miura, Berserk’s author, who died relatively shortly before the game was released and who Miyazaki has noted as an influence; it's not uncommon for players to take screenshots of their characters at the circle or to leave messages near it to "pay respects." This is pure speculation, and no one on the development team has stated it to be such. Not only that, but the circle by the starting area is only one of several monuments that appear throughout the game. Although swords planted in the ground as gravestones do appear in Berserk, the ones in Elden Ring bear a much stronger resemblance to the sculpture “Sverd i fjell” in Norway, in keeping with the Norse themes seen throughout the game.
@@ZullietheWitch i think its definitely fair to say that there are huge inspirations throughout the entirety of the souls games. but i just think the concept of a wickerman is far bigger than a pretty small reference in berserk, so to me it just feels like a big stretch to pin it as the reason for why he included it. its hard to say for sure either way ofc, but imo it seems very unlikely this is a reference to berserk, rather than a reference to very well known mythology (similar to if someone including Zeus in a game was cited as a reference to God of War, rather than just obvious Greek Mythology)
@@wtfryley It may be wrong to say it's "why" he included it, but I think there are goods odds it's snow in or on the snowball that led to it being included, if that makes sense.
My best guess as to the sap being crystallized into tears would be as a form of pine resin burning and solidifying as tears. They could have used it as a propellant to start the fires burning, as pine resin is also highly flammable. Funnily enough, there's ample sap flowing from the Scadutree.
these guys aren't really suitable for fights against elden ring creatures, i think they'd be more fun to pit against AC6 enemies
These golems are dark fantasy fire mechas powered by the souls of the damned!
Thank you, for changing the music up man.
The other track was driving me nuts lately..
Honestly I really disliked fighting these guys - in both of the ways given. The first time was fine but just hacking their legs and dodging the occasional attack is boring, and throwing pots is annoyingly finicky
I absolutely love how much twilight princess music you use in your videos
I was really thinking this was going to be one of the most memorable bosses of the expansion but it’s just annoying repeated trash :(
Same but when I saw multiple of them in the cinematic trailer I knew there were gonna be a lot
Well, these things are clearly fueled with Fire Giant magic. I still think Mesmer has a relation with what happened in the Mountaintops
Whenever I fight these behemoths, when they do their stomping moves. All that plays inside my head is “Casper’s Cha-Cha Slide.”
ONE HOP THIS TIME, THREE HOPS THIS TIME, CRISS CROSS
To anyone who didnt know you cam activate the unconscious one with a forge pot to res his ass.
The sheer scale and power of these things is wild. I can’t imagine the Hornsent were successful in toppling any of them… wtf can knights and wizards do
I just had an idea that could explain a lot. What if Merika’s grand betrayal and “original sin” was burning down the original erdtree? The erdtree is already just a golden illusion with a burnt husk at the base, and Lyndell is covered in ash when we first get there. Her rule was marked by two eras, the age of the erdtree, where Merika used the erdtree sap to give plenty to the world, and the age of the Golden Order, where the erdtree is just a golden illusion. Not to mention Enya calls the burning of the erdtree the original sin in dialogue.
Just giving a shout-out to the shot at 2:07 when you mention the crystal tears being made from the sap of the Scadutree, and you frame the furnace golem directly under the dripping sap from the tree as though its pouring into the open top of the brazier! I always enjoy seeing your choice of framing!
i adore these videos, they’re always so intriguing
nothing cozier than watching a new Zullie vid with the Twilight Princess music. 🙌
Was really looking forward to a video on them!
Even a damn horse what did do horse even do
play skipping rope with the furnace golems
Thank you for all your videos zullie!!