First gen owner here. Ive had both a 66 & 67. Super under appreciated & a great classic mopar. BUT for anyone interested. Be prepared to spend. The gauges were very unique. Costs super $ to restore. If u are looking, get one thats been recently completely restored. If u dont care about oem then go all out.
I had a scat pack in 2019. Loved all 6 months of her. These new generation I am very interested in. Something i wish ford would of done with the Mach e. I love the look. Hopefully they bring a wide body along. That's something I always like with these cars 🚗
I purchased a beautiful 2023 Charger RT Daytona just over two months ago. Octane red baby! No inline six or EV is gonna convince me to get rid of my HEMI, period.
Yes, maybe those days were imperfect, but who cares! They were great. As they say, you can never go home again. Sometimes, I wish that you could. Best video ever!
GREAT breakdown of the Charger history, and where it is going. I respect Dodge for taking chances; HHR, SSR, Prowler, Hemi Kick your A$$ in a 4 door i.e. Charger, also the Viper, Viper truck, etc. Regarding North America market share, Ford and GM will stay status quo with nothing in the 4 door segment and plenty in the 2 door arena. Stellantis is laying the groundwork for dominating the 500+ 'family car' segment now. Not that one is better than the other, but all 3 players are able to play in the same sandbox w/o befriending the mate next to you in a negative way.
Yeah no thank you fail to mention the fact that it's a 6000 lb car and dealer markups are going to eat this damn car alive you know it's going to be 80k + they're making a big mistake switching to Ev meanwhile the Mustang is staying true to its roots I love my challenger but my next new car is going to be a Mustang Coyote rip Dodge hope the millionaires that will be able to afford it love it
They won’t sell many units especially with today’s current car market with high rates that has a lot of delinquencies. I personally don’t think they’ll sell many even with all the goodies they’re doing. Fake noises to make it sound like a muscle car it’s not the same as what they were known for rip hemi
Favorite gen for me is the one I own. Gen 7 392. Although I want a Redeye. And I was excited for the new higher horsepower TT I6 Chargers untill I saw how ugly they where.
When it reaches in the future with no power house v8 engines under the hood that makes my steering along with the car shake and people saying wow in fear that's a dodge charger baby...I'm taking the cheap bus because my V8 sounding dream as come to an end😭😭😭😭
I love hellcats but ever since stelantis took over dodge,ram, jeep and all their other companies they have under their umbrella has gone down hill. A lot of ev sales are down currently even with the ev credit you can get. so this won’t sell just like the viper which was a super badass American muscle car and great value for the price/ performance this car won’t sell many units that’s why they have to add all these “goodies” but it still won’t do good in sales compared to the other car manufactures . This comment was made 5/10/2024 look back at this comment in a few weeks months or even years later when they will be released not pretty for stelantis and the way they’re going
Well... I'll say this. The video certainly adds needed perspective. That being said, regardless of ICE, or EV, the dystopian nanny vehicles are here. ICE variants are just less severe. However, they're all logging driving habits, and selling that data to insurance companies, so the insurance companies can then adjust your rates based on how you drive. The days of standing burnouts and precision driving on the open road will mean massive insurance premiums. With this in mind, I find myself feeling depressed about almost any new vehicle on the market. There are a very few exceptions. If reality weren't a factor and we lived in a utopian future, where cars were designed to last a long time, and we could do whatever we wanted to in them, my enthusiasm would flurish. However, as each new generation means yet another engine component is turned into heat/oil-vulnerable polymer, the lifespan of an engine reduces more and more each year, and the price for these rolling dumpsterfires continues to increase. Today, "lifetime transmission fluid" means the end of the warranty period. Today, certain manufacturers don't even have an option to change the fluids. With every new car model comes less freedom, more expense, and less enjoyment. This is fine if you're addicted to every new thing on the market, but not if you cherish anything at all. New cars are all comodities designed to be thrown into a landfill like all the e-waste we discard year after year. EVs are essentially rolling cell phones. ICE counterparts aren't far behind. Collectors will find it fairly impractical to preserve anything newer than roughly 2012. It's a shame too... I really like the S550 Mustang. I just don't see a lot of these plastics holding up over time. Today's polymer intake costs 4x as much as yesterday's aluminum intake. And used intakes? Even pulling one could cause damage, depending on age. I work on cars from last century. I can't imagine high milage examples of anything new today still being on the road in 20yrs time. We're witnessing the end of a very long movie. The climax is over. Soon, the credits will roll. Nostalgia is about all I have left to hold onto at this point. Star Trek is dead, Star Wars is dead, WarHammer is dead, and Dodge is dead. Anyone who doesn't see it is just in denial. RIP dodge, the Challenger SRT Demon 170 was a crowning achievement. You will be missed. Cheers.
Well all I can say is time has changed a lot old fandom died but new ones will come and take it's place it may not be the same but it will have the simpler things the old ones have in the past.
@@Darknova591 "less moving parts" is the EV maintenance selling point. However, what's not discussed is "points of failure". With a single EV battery, we're not seeing one large power brick. We're seeing a complex and interconnecting series of connected "cells" that are all stacked next to each other and linked together in a combination of series and parallel connections to get the desired wattage and voltage. Think about ~10,000 car battery connections in a single vehicle. QA for a battery pack like this must be extremely vigilant and checked at every assembly stage. However, from what I can tell, speed is more important than safety to a lot of these EV manufacturers. The more cells (and concequently more connections) you have, the greater the risk of short circuit and thermal runaway. (Just off the line, not to mention road hazards and vibrational forces) There's just a ton of variables here to account for. Life and safety does not appear to be of too much concern these days. Lawsuits are built in to the bottom line today. Think Ford Pinto, except everyone is doing it now. Batteries are just one element of the new vehicle disaster. Other safety concerns are things like steer-by-wire. Besides the remote hacker/back door concerns. The other issue is a lack of mechanical failsafe, or electrical redundancy. There is an airplane counter arguement people make, but it's an apples and oranges comparison. Overall, people are trusting these highly sophisticated and electrical module-laden machines with their lives. Electronics either work or they don't. There is no gradual failure like mechanics. That steer-by-wire servo will be working just fine, then it won't. The setup is a recipe for disaster. There's a slew of complaints about Tesla's poor build quality, cheap materials, and panel gaps. That company is supposed to be the Apple of EVs. If they're the company leading the charge with EV development, their standard sets the bar lower, not higher, for the other manufacturers. Both Honda and Toyota quality has tanked in recent years. When your competitors are undercutting you while making a profit, and the government keeps breatheing down your neck, pressuring you to continue to do more with less. Then build quality and durability will suffer just to stay in business. Any company making consumer-grade production vehicles will suffer from deminished quality over time. Companies like Ferrarri will be a much safer new vehicle option. However, hardly any of us have that kind of money. My strategy has just been to own old cars that don't suffer from any of these issues. I know that not everyone can use this strategy, but if it's possible, that's what I would do to keep far away from the new/preowned markets. Simplicity is king. Cars built in the last decade left that sentiment far behind. There's so much to cover on the new car subject from a number of different angles, none of it is positive. I'll cap it here though. Hope this adds a little context to the discussion. Cheers.
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What car would you like to see us do a Rundown on next?!
Lamborghini aventador
First gen owner here. Ive had both a 66 & 67. Super under appreciated & a great classic mopar. BUT for anyone interested. Be prepared to spend. The gauges were very unique. Costs super $ to restore. If u are looking, get one thats been recently completely restored. If u dont care about oem then go all out.
Well, there's still the Blackwing series... RIP Hellcat though.
Tho I’d take a Blackwing it’s sad seeing the hellcat leave
Waiting for RUclips to get their hands on them and v8 swap them 😈
Soon as someone totals one or they do a Mopar challenge
EV performance are not muscle cars it's like taking part in the special Olympics, it needs a big loud V8 that is the soul of the Dodge Charger.
Bravo!
Douchey analogy bud
@@steveaustin7306 EV's are not muscle cars.
@@alex_swe2432 wtf have the special Olympics have to do with it?
😂
Ok it’s got 670 hp BUT
IT WEIGHTS 5.883lbs !!!!!!!
AND IT’S F*CKING ELECTRIC
I had a scat pack in 2019. Loved all 6 months of her. These new generation I am very interested in. Something i wish ford would of done with the Mach e. I love the look. Hopefully they bring a wide body along. That's something I always like with these cars 🚗
The best car ever made in a straight line. God forbid you had to make a sharp turn.
I purchased a beautiful 2023 Charger RT Daytona just over two months ago. Octane red baby! No inline six or EV is gonna convince me to get rid of my HEMI, period.
Dodge, I remember when they were considered one of the big 3!
Yes, maybe those days were imperfect, but who cares! They were great. As they say, you can never go home again. Sometimes, I wish that you could. Best video ever!
This is a total disgrace to the legendary Mopar name
GREAT breakdown of the Charger history, and where it is going. I respect Dodge for taking chances; HHR, SSR, Prowler, Hemi Kick your A$$ in a 4 door i.e. Charger, also the Viper, Viper truck, etc. Regarding North America market share, Ford and GM will stay status quo with nothing in the 4 door segment and plenty in the 2 door arena. Stellantis is laying the groundwork for dominating the 500+ 'family car' segment now. Not that one is better than the other, but all 3 players are able to play in the same sandbox w/o befriending the mate next to you in a negative way.
Demon swapping the i6 version would be cool
They should have killed the name Charger and Challenger and named these vacuum-sounding cars a different name.
Great show ✌️
My crystal ball says it sees a lot of premature battery failures and overheated motors in Dodges future.
Cool, but the "HAITUS" (you mean Hiatus?); almost bought one in '86 but went with my first cool(er?) car, CRX Si......
Dodge/Stellantis Just Killed Themselves. These are going to go over about as well as the Hornet.
Mopar or no car.Looks like I'm walkin'
Yeah no thank you fail to mention the fact that it's a 6000 lb car and dealer markups are going to eat this damn car alive you know it's going to be 80k + they're making a big mistake switching to Ev meanwhile the Mustang is staying true to its roots I love my challenger but my next new car is going to be a Mustang Coyote rip Dodge hope the millionaires that will be able to afford it love it
They won’t sell many units especially with today’s current car market with high rates that has a lot of delinquencies. I personally don’t think they’ll sell many even with all the goodies they’re doing. Fake noises to make it sound like a muscle car it’s not the same as what they were known for rip hemi
I bet I’m not the only one thinkin n wonderin bout a 6.2 swap…. Can’t wait to see em lol
Spicy racing stripe.
Pause
Death by electrocution. Poor Dodge.
Favorite gen for me is the one I own. Gen 7 392. Although I want a Redeye. And I was excited for the new higher horsepower TT I6 Chargers untill I saw how ugly they where.
11:40 Brazilian CHARGER ❤😮
they forgot the new demon😈
Also when america got the shit charger in the latter 70s. Brazil got a dart/valiant looking charger thats virtually unknown.
How much they pay you to sell your soul man?
i like how they bleep the swear words with noises
My favorite cars!
It doesn't matter what they do, the Phoenix always rise from the ashes
This video was good until you praised the EV shitbrick
When it reaches in the future with no power house v8 engines under the hood that makes my steering along with the car shake and people saying wow in fear that's a dodge charger baby...I'm taking the cheap bus because my V8 sounding dream as come to an end😭😭😭😭
Is that EV not just a challenger? Doesnt look anything like the last gen charger in terms of side and front profiles.
Its not supposed to. Cues of 1st & 2nd gen. Challenger always been a diff platform.
@@noiisserpmii I'm aware
@@rubenthekid im just saying 2 diff looking cars. They made 2 chargers to replace both cars they had.
I love hellcats but ever since stelantis took over dodge,ram, jeep and all their other companies they have under their umbrella has gone down hill. A lot of ev sales are down currently even with the ev credit you can get. so this won’t sell just like the viper which was a super badass American muscle car and great value for the price/ performance this car won’t sell many units that’s why they have to add all these “goodies” but it still won’t do good in sales compared to the other car manufactures . This comment was made 5/10/2024 look back at this comment in a few weeks months or even years later when they will be released not pretty for stelantis and the way they’re going
Well... I'll say this. The video certainly adds needed perspective.
That being said, regardless of ICE, or EV, the dystopian nanny vehicles are here. ICE variants are just less severe. However, they're all logging driving habits, and selling that data to insurance companies, so the insurance companies can then adjust your rates based on how you drive. The days of standing burnouts and precision driving on the open road will mean massive insurance premiums.
With this in mind, I find myself feeling depressed about almost any new vehicle on the market. There are a very few exceptions. If reality weren't a factor and we lived in a utopian future, where cars were designed to last a long time, and we could do whatever we wanted to in them, my enthusiasm would flurish. However, as each new generation means yet another engine component is turned into heat/oil-vulnerable polymer, the lifespan of an engine reduces more and more each year, and the price for these rolling dumpsterfires continues to increase.
Today, "lifetime transmission fluid" means the end of the warranty period. Today, certain manufacturers don't even have an option to change the fluids.
With every new car model comes less freedom, more expense, and less enjoyment.
This is fine if you're addicted to every new thing on the market, but not if you cherish anything at all. New cars are all comodities designed to be thrown into a landfill like all the e-waste we discard year after year. EVs are essentially rolling cell phones. ICE counterparts aren't far behind. Collectors will find it fairly impractical to preserve anything newer than roughly 2012. It's a shame too... I really like the S550 Mustang. I just don't see a lot of these plastics holding up over time. Today's polymer intake costs 4x as much as yesterday's aluminum intake. And used intakes? Even pulling one could cause damage, depending on age.
I work on cars from last century. I can't imagine high milage examples of anything new today still being on the road in 20yrs time.
We're witnessing the end of a very long movie. The climax is over. Soon, the credits will roll.
Nostalgia is about all I have left to hold onto at this point.
Star Trek is dead, Star Wars is dead, WarHammer is dead, and Dodge is dead.
Anyone who doesn't see it is just in denial.
RIP dodge, the Challenger SRT Demon 170 was a crowning achievement. You will be missed.
Cheers.
You are 100% "dead" on the money. You seen what I did there right?🤔🙃😃
Well all I can say is time has changed a lot old fandom died but new ones will come and take it's place it may not be the same but it will have the simpler things the old ones have in the past.
@@Darknova591 "less moving parts" is the EV maintenance selling point. However, what's not discussed is "points of failure". With a single EV battery, we're not seeing one large power brick. We're seeing a complex and interconnecting series of connected "cells" that are all stacked next to each other and linked together in a combination of series and parallel connections to get the desired wattage and voltage. Think about ~10,000 car battery connections in a single vehicle. QA for a battery pack like this must be extremely vigilant and checked at every assembly stage. However, from what I can tell, speed is more important than safety to a lot of these EV manufacturers. The more cells (and concequently more connections) you have, the greater the risk of short circuit and thermal runaway. (Just off the line, not to mention road hazards and vibrational forces) There's just a ton of variables here to account for. Life and safety does not appear to be of too much concern these days. Lawsuits are built in to the bottom line today. Think Ford Pinto, except everyone is doing it now.
Batteries are just one element of the new vehicle disaster. Other safety concerns are things like steer-by-wire. Besides the remote hacker/back door concerns. The other issue is a lack of mechanical failsafe, or electrical redundancy. There is an airplane counter arguement people make, but it's an apples and oranges comparison. Overall, people are trusting these highly sophisticated and electrical module-laden machines with their lives. Electronics either work or they don't. There is no gradual failure like mechanics. That steer-by-wire servo will be working just fine, then it won't. The setup is a recipe for disaster.
There's a slew of complaints about Tesla's poor build quality, cheap materials, and panel gaps. That company is supposed to be the Apple of EVs. If they're the company leading the charge with EV development, their standard sets the bar lower, not higher, for the other manufacturers.
Both Honda and Toyota quality has tanked in recent years. When your competitors are undercutting you while making a profit, and the government keeps breatheing down your neck, pressuring you to continue to do more with less. Then build quality and durability will suffer just to stay in business. Any company making consumer-grade production vehicles will suffer from deminished quality over time. Companies like Ferrarri will be a much safer new vehicle option. However, hardly any of us have that kind of money.
My strategy has just been to own old cars that don't suffer from any of these issues. I know that not everyone can use this strategy, but if it's possible, that's what I would do to keep far away from the new/preowned markets.
Simplicity is king. Cars built in the last decade left that sentiment far behind. There's so much to cover on the new car subject from a number of different angles, none of it is positive. I'll cap it here though.
Hope this adds a little context to the discussion.
Cheers.
Question of the vid: Charger or Challenger.
Absolutely horrible 🤮🤮🤮
💯
Dodge killed the best car in 2017
R.I.P Viper
Mitsubishi making them again....lol
this guy is being paid
The only reason these companies are going electric is so that cops can shut your car down with a EMP when you go too fast
Is that a bad thing
Gag
Best car ever made 😂
the hellcat isn't the best car ever made wtf? 😂
Just say that you can’t afford it broke boy
Hating mf
@@mrprincetonx 🤣🤣🤣
THESE ARE NOT MUSCLES CARS 😅
In 5 years or less they’ll be making another V8. I’m calling it now… 💯🫵🏽😎🫵🏽😉
This video was good until you praised the EV shitbrick