Sensible Secondhand Classics: 1989 Nissan Sunny B12 Estate 1.6 (Sunny California/Sentra)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024

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  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
    @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 2 года назад +1

    Another Gem of a Sunny, not sure I have ever really seen one before, I remember the older Sunny Estate but not this one. Testement to Stuart for keeping this one like new.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Yes, the older style (B11) and this one were on sale at the same time, which makes it really confusing. The condition of this, like all Stuart's other cars, is absolutely ridiculous.

  • @frothe42
    @frothe42 2 года назад +1

    Another Nissan I haven't seen in decades!
    Also in excellent condition.
    Thank you very much for another excellent review!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      Well sir, there are more where this came from! It is indeed in practically immaculate condition, B12s were very rare in this country and were only imported in estate or coupé form.

  • @johnnoys5422
    @johnnoys5422 2 года назад +1

    I own one of these in New Zealand, its a 1990 model and is known here as a Nissan Sentra Sport wagon GL with colour coded bumpers as standard . Its the GA 1.6 litre 5 speed manual with power steering and rev counter as standard. It has also travelled over 300,000 km and is still used as a daily driver. Its not as immaculate as this one but its pretty close to it. Economical and peppy, all in all a great little classic. Thanks for the video :-)

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Thank you for watching and commenting! Yes, lots of different names for the same car, absolutely brilliant either way. You are right that this was in superb condition, like a lot of Stuart's other cars which I also filmed that day. I wish his one had power steering and a rev counter!

  • @DerbJd
    @DerbJd Год назад +1

    Right. I owned G880 KDA reg plate, silver exactly the same as this. This is a 1.6L GA16S engine, 100%. It is not a CA or anything else. GA. 12 valve. And mine was completely standard. However, it was ridiculously fast for a pea-shooter exhausted old man mobile. I used to beat all the RS Turbo Fiestas and Rover 2.7 Vitesses etc. Sub 7 seconds on 155 tyres and went completely around the speedo to the reset pin and then some more. I had it rolling road tested at Sid's Tune Shop in Tamworth and it had 131bhp at the wheels. It revved to 8000RPM too.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  Год назад +1

      It's been a while since I filmed this, but I am pretty sure that I mentioned both engines the Sunny Estate had in this country. As you say, definitely a GA16 in this one. It was very difficult to find information on these prior to filming separate from the N13s and Sunny Coupés when I looked. I have since driven a couple of other cars with the GA16: engine, including a manual 100 NX, and it is absolutely brilliant, as you say. Thank you for watching!

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 2 года назад +1

    "Oh Sunny,
    One so true,
    I love you."
    I do love this. Such an interesting shape. This estate is such an anomaly in the Nissan range what with the boxier B11 (?) estate also available.
    Well done for mentioning the Tsuru. I remember checking the mexican Nissan website and taking a fancy to one of those. 😀
    "It never rains in sunny California"

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      It's very random, sir, but we do like cars like this as they offer the channel a certain flavour. I thought I had to mention the Tsuru, even if I got the information wrong the first time I talked about it. We have only had three cars from Stuart's collection so far, there are many more to come!

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 9 месяцев назад

    Glad you were so obviously captivated by this car,,,,

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  9 месяцев назад

      If you look in the description below, you will see a link to the review I did on the owners' Y10 Sunny Traveller. I liked that much more than this...

  • @badbooks476
    @badbooks476 2 года назад

    Great video, and what an beautifully kept car, immaculate. Like you, not seen one for years. I seem to remember there were 2 previous shape estates, later more van like and square, then the more plentiful earlier type, which was more fast back. I look forward to the next Eatate video.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Yes, the B11 would be the one which most people remember. It was produced concurrently with this one, even if it began production four years earlier than the B12. We have more coming up from the collection, don't you worry...

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 9 месяцев назад

    They were good little cars, the B12s.
    I had numerous B11s as company fleet cars. Saloons and wagons.E13 and E15 motors, and 5 speed boxes. Overdrive on 4th and 5th.
    Surprisingly zippy things.
    The Sunny Sportwagon was the bees knees, I tell you. Quick-ish, (for their class), economical, and great to drive, and not ugly or rust-prone.
    Early ones had head gasket problems, but that was cured rapidly.
    Nothing fantastic, but I'd have another.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  9 месяцев назад

      This one is actually for sale now, and it's just as immaculate now as it was in the video.

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg7843 2 года назад

    Thanks! Another Nissan blast from my past. These were extremely popular in New Zealand although they have become rare in recent years. A young woman at my University Hostel when I was 18 had one. It was red and had factory alloys and more trim - including bumpers coloured like the body! It was manual (All or most of the ones sold in my country were manual!). I remember it was quite spacious for carrying people and the layout allowed good echoing for stereo sounds. The interior was grey and black. I vaguely remember the advertisements for them - showing a husband and wife dressed as clowns leaving the circus in the car for a vacation in normal clothes and a jingle 'Make the World smile with you.' Sung by Dave Dobbyn I think. Body style reminds me of the later Impreza 'wagon!'

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      Yes, I imagine these must have been around in New Zealand in the 1980s and 1990s. This was the only trim we go in this country, but I imagine elsewhere more luxurious examples were available. The back seat wasn't the best for carrying people with front the seat in my driving position, I am afraid.

    • @alaricbragg7843
      @alaricbragg7843 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes, it was still on the small side for a proper estate car. Liked the shape though. It came across as very Italian-influenced, like a Fiat or Lancia, or old-school Passat, would you concur? My hostel mate's version also had full black light trim round the back.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      @@alaricbragg7843 , not sure, sir, possibly.... That old one sounds a like a much higher specification car.

    • @alaricbragg7843
      @alaricbragg7843 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting That's OK. Yes, probably we were spoiled for model choice by Nissan here. Always been a popular make in New Zealand.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      @@alaricbragg7843 , yes, I imagine Nissan and Toyota have traditionally been massive sellers in New Zealand!

  • @richardhowlett9424
    @richardhowlett9424 2 года назад

    I can only assume your friend has some kind of worm hole back to 1989 in which he brings these amazing cars back .

  • @kenbakie4590
    @kenbakie4590 2 года назад

    My Dad had a saloon version of one of these with a 1.3 engine and I drove it on numerous occasions. It was bronze in colour, but it had a very similar beige/brown interior and dash. He previously has a Datsun Violet 140J with a V registration from 1980, which I really liked and I felt it was a bit better than the Sunny. I hardly ever see a B12 Sunny these days and I can't recall the last time I saw a 140J Violet.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      Oh right, well, you can actually have a look on the No Budget Reviews playlist if you would be interested, as I filmed a 1989 N13 Sunny in October 2020, that would be the saloon you would be talking about. Good old beige interiors! Have not seen a 140J in quite some time either...

    • @kenbakie4590
      @kenbakie4590 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting Thanks I found the N13 Sunny review and watched it. Lovely car.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      @@kenbakie4590 , yes, Mr Brisdion (who owns it) and I actually drove his car to film these other Nissans on that day!

  • @adamtoms2726
    @adamtoms2726 2 года назад

    It's beautifully quirky, but it fails to live up what it is being advertised as an estate if that was a Nissan Sunny fastback or a spaceback, it would make a great deal more sense and possibly would of captured more buyers as I think the older version estate out sold it for a time.
    I did own a 1.3 estate of the older generation, it really was very square and van like, that had over 180000 on the clock and four speeds in the gearbox and felt much older than a car that was also made in 1989. However immensely practical, but rust got the better of that one.
    This seems to have much more modern driving dynamic compared to the older estate model but seems flawed in other areas. However I can't recall seeing one of these in the flesh at all. So thankyou for taking the time to review it.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      Yes, surprisingly nice to drive (albeit no power steering), although surprisingly compromised in the rear space and boot area. I don't know Nissan offered this under the "Estate" name and did not have a more luxurious model. Would have made sense to do that and differentiate it still further from the previous B11 model. You are right, the B11 is a much less sophisticated car, but more practical, probably why they continued to offer both.

  • @colinhicks4174
    @colinhicks4174 2 года назад

    Where did you find that? I looked in 2019 and they had all vanished. This was the second car I wanted, I probably would have got one had I stayed in NZ in the 1990s. They are a great looking car and different to the rest of the Sentra range, hatch and saloon. We had a greater line up, base 1.4 very similar in spec to what you tested. The 1.6 had full electric windows, Rev counter and a few other goodies. No aircon, not a thing in 1990 really. But power steering was standard across the Sentra range, my friends 1.4 certainly had it.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      Well sir, it's part of Stuart's collection of immaculate Datsuns and Nissans from the 1970s through to the 1990s. This is the third one I filmed, and we have a few more to come. It was an interesting car, but I actually preferred another one out of his fleet, which will be coming up on the channel later this week. No idea why we got such a basic single specification over here when the people in New Zealand got the proper luxury equipment!

  • @williamegler8771
    @williamegler8771 2 года назад +1

    These were pretty common in the United States.
    They usually ended up in the yard before their time because of horrific issues with rust.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Yes, I saw some Sentras of this generation when I visited America in 2001. Didn't see any of this particular bodyshape, though. I imagine they must have rusted nicely, just like they did over here!

  • @jdnrotterdam2150
    @jdnrotterdam2150 2 года назад

    Never saw one in my life. I think it wasn’t in holland. But it looks like a excellent car for that time. Like For someone with a one man Business that need some practical space as a freelancer of their work stuff.. or people with a dog or 2. Or a family with 1 or 2 young children. It’s a great Ikea car. Or helping someone moving.. maybe even transport a washing machine. And with the 1600cc engine. It’s good enough and strong enough . I would drive it! And if the car was sold here my father would drive it also!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      They weren't the most common cars back in the day, sir, which is probably why you have not seen one before. I quite liked it, although there is another Nissan from Stuart's collection which I liked even more that you will see next week... It was nippy with this 1.6.

  • @stuartsaunders4518
    @stuartsaunders4518 2 года назад

    I passed my driving test in a brand new red 3door 1989 G Reg Sunny, I can't ever remember seeing the estate version, it's beautiful though

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Yes, most of the Sunnys sold at this time in the UK were the N13 type (saloon and hatchback). There is a link to the N13 Sunny episode of No Budget Reviews in the description...

  • @OldCarsNewVan
    @OldCarsNewVan 4 месяца назад

    Good evening Sir. As about 3pm today I am now the new proud owner of this car! The guy who bought it off Stuart has had a change of heart and offered it for sale again. Still looks great. When you tested it was it a bit tappety? Can you remember? Going to change the oil and see but I would be very grateful for your memory of this car. Kind regards, Mike

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  4 месяца назад +1

      I am afraid that the video is the best record of what happened, I really don't remember. I think that this car has the GA16 engine as opposed to the early E16, but apart from that, it has been quite a long time, and I have probably driven 400-500 cars since, so I can't recall that level of detail, sorry about that!

    • @OldCarsNewVan
      @OldCarsNewVan 4 месяца назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting no worries - thank you very much for taking the time to reply. My mechanic is happy it's not serious - booked in for some old fashioned tappet adjustment! Car will be at Festival of the Unexceptional this year. If you're there come and say Hi! Cheers, Mike & Maia

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes, I will be at Festival of the Unexceptional, but I will be filming about nine half hour videos that day, so I don't normally have time to stop and have conversations, sadly...

    • @OldCarsNewVan
      @OldCarsNewVan 4 месяца назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting no worries - we'll wave if we see you 👍

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  4 месяца назад

      If you have ever seen the Slightly Shambolic Shuffles from Festival of the Unexceptional, you will understand why I have to keep going!

  • @leeallen7585
    @leeallen7585 2 года назад

    Can't ever recall seeing one of them

  • @trabali5168
    @trabali5168 2 года назад

    great cond. one word RARE!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      It is rare, sir, but we have yet rarer cars to come from this collection, as well as some more common ones.

  • @DavidJohnston58
    @DavidJohnston58 2 года назад

    Drive SUV nowadays due to health issues but would love an estate, always been a long roof fan, that one is in cracking order 👍

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Well, if you like Nissan estates, then you may like the video we have coming up next week as well! Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting.

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 9 месяцев назад

    Sorry,
    Meant to say that the B11/B12 were such a vast improvement over the 310 series that preceded them in every way.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  9 месяцев назад

      I suppose like how the Y10 was a big improvement over this one too!

  • @MarcinLeon-vx1ii
    @MarcinLeon-vx1ii 7 месяцев назад

    Pay deposit on that car and picking that car next week. One of the reason was watching your video. I love old cars (own Audi 80 1981, Passat 1982, before Peugeot 405) and start looking info about nissan. And I'm confused about engine only one matching is CA16DE and that's 122hp! Is that possible? If yes that's impressive for 1989 from 1.6 standard car.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  7 месяцев назад

      No, by 1989 I think these had the GA16 engine, which was around 95 bhp (it is, however, brilliant), but it is possible that some 1989 registered cars were built earlier, and therefore would have had the CA16. They would have been on a carburettor, though, and so not with the DE suffix. Those produced a fair bit less power.

    • @MarcinLeon-vx1ii
      @MarcinLeon-vx1ii 7 месяцев назад

      GA16S 94HP look more in to it and that's the correct code for that engine. Can't wait to pick up that car. My daily car is Audi 80 B2 1981 buy this one for long journey as it's estate. Hope I will love that nissan same as I love my Peugeot 405 estate that I owned for 5 years.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  7 месяцев назад

      It's a bit more basic than a 405, but I think that it has a charm all of its own.

    • @MarcinLeon-vx1ii
      @MarcinLeon-vx1ii 7 месяцев назад

      The more basic the better for me. My Audi 80 b2 is full option (central, front and back electric windows, auto choke) and I change everything manual! Less electric less stress. 405 that I own before was quite equipped version but there was really basic version as well for example for Polish market (it was assembled in Poland)

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  7 месяцев назад

      Hope you enjoy your new car!

  • @hokman1
    @hokman1 2 года назад

    hi lloyd, small correction on the engine, a ga16s because of the carburation

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Thank you, it's actually Joseph, but not to worry! These days when testing a car with the GA16 engine, (just done a 100 NX, for example) I just tend to leave it at that rather than give any letters afterwards to prevent this sort of situation happening again.

    • @hokman1
      @hokman1 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting Thanks. In terms of real world usability, are there any real detriments to a carburated one vs a fuel injected one for these 80s/90s cars?

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      @@hokman1 , that is quite a complicated topic....

  • @benjaminonchiri556
    @benjaminonchiri556 7 месяцев назад

    Hope to be buying one for a first car😊

  • @Alexmagtolis4304
    @Alexmagtolis4304 2 года назад

    Nice...what country is this ?

  • @stevenscott7572
    @stevenscott7572 2 года назад

    I don't think the engine is a CA. CA were used on Stanza/Bluebird in 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 versions - I think the 12 valve unit was a GA series engine. I used to have A 1.4 version and it really was a treasure of an engine

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      I have just double checked, and it is exactly as I said, the earlier 1.6s had the E16 units, and then the later ones, such as this 1989 model, had the CA16 units. There was a GA series engine in the B12, but it was a 1.5 unit, not a 1.6. I tested a Y10 Sunny Estate later the same day, and that had the GA16 in it, which looked completely different.

    • @stevenscott7572
      @stevenscott7572 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting fair enough. I thought the CA series wax the one used in Stanza and Bluebirds and were 8v units not 12.
      Hazy memories on my part 🙂

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      @@stevenscott7572 , I think you are confusing the N13 and B12 Sunnys, which were sold alongside one another in this country, but were completely different cars. The N13 Sunny had a 1.4 engine option, for example, and later ones used the GA16 engine, but the B12s had neither.

    • @stevenscott7572
      @stevenscott7572 2 года назад

      Ah... That's it. I had 2 N13 3 doors - a 1988 1.3LX which was the E13 engine followed by a 1990 1.4LS which was the 12 valve GA14S. After that had an N14 1.4LS with 16v GA14DS which was crap - dreadful flat spots and hesitation as it was carb with catalyst and very problematic.
      That was superseded by a Primera 2.0eZX with the epic SR20DE - a great car I should never have sold.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      @@stevenscott7572 , I have driven the GA16 engine in a couple of cars, including the Y10 (N14) Sunny Estate/Traveller that Stuart also owns (uploaded about a week after this) and a P10 Primera and it has been brilliant. Never tried the GA14. I also tried the SR20 in another of Stuart's cars, a P11 Primera, and that was pretty good too! Those P10s are very rare now.

  • @seancooke7332
    @seancooke7332 2 года назад

    Definitely a fastback moreso than an estate.
    However, Toyota was at the same confusing carry on in 1989 with the Corolla 5 door Hatchback and the Toyota Corolla 5 door Liftback. Not to mention that the generation before had a Corolla rwd 3 door coupe and a Corolla fwd 3 door hatchback with the same engine. Now that is providing choice. Possibly the Nissan range was not in fact confusing but providing the customer another option. It could be argued that the Nissan Prairie was another Sunny derivative.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      You are correct, sir! The AE86 Corolla and the EE80/AE80/82 Corolla had completely different drivetrain configurations, but were sold at the same time in Europe. The Japanese market cars were even more confusing... The Prairie was not actually a Sunny derivative, it was based on the Stanza platform.

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 9 месяцев назад

    As far as refinement goes, they WERE a cheap car, but the engines were good, and could be pushed hard. Sounded fine, too.

  • @IKHRFB
    @IKHRFB 2 года назад

    U should do a video on a 1985 b11 sunny

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      Well, I would very much like to, but it does depend on whether I get offered one for the channel, I am afraid....

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 9 месяцев назад

    Oh, And we got a tacho on the 1.5.

  • @gerrydollard5561
    @gerrydollard5561 2 года назад

    What makes this sensible and the alfa before it? I Love the alfa and a big twin spark fan and i do like wedgy nissan's, but they're a little too square....eh?

  • @lg3359
    @lg3359 2 года назад

    I need more mother.
    I need to know y the first owner bought this over say a montego estate or a fiat regarta estate

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      I am afraid, sir, that we will never know...

    • @lg3359
      @lg3359 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting i can only think of one thing:
      ...a safe and reliable car 4 the wife (old skool values!)

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      @@lg3359 , it feels quite old fashioned for 1989, actually. The next generation car (N14/Y10) was much better in my opinion.

  • @viennguyen8402
    @viennguyen8402 2 года назад +1

    Viet Nam, xe quá đẹp, cũ nhưng còn nguyên

    • @yekateradiffin5939
      @yekateradiffin5939 2 года назад

      Rất tiếc, chúng tôi không thể thấy chú chim xanh của bạn trên kênh,

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад +1

      Tôi hy vọng sẽ có Bluebird trên kênh vào một thời điểm nào đó vào đầu năm 2022.

    • @yekateradiffin5939
      @yekateradiffin5939 2 года назад

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting Hãy xem viens blue bird trên kênh của anh ấy, bạn có thể không đăng nó trên kênh của mình không?

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 года назад

      @@yekateradiffin5939 Việc tôi đăng liên kết RUclips trong phần nhận xét hoặc cho bất kỳ ai khác làm điều đó thực sự không được thực hiện, vì vấn đề đó ....