The Entire Internet Was Mad at ESPN and Stephen A Smith for Knicks Centric Game 7 Broadcast
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Greg Cote, Pablo Torre and the entire show crew debate how networks should broadcast games after the internet went into an uproar about the Knicks focused game 7 broadcast between the New York Knicks and Indiana Pacers.
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NBA Countdown on ESPN is unbearable
People don’t want their grandpa’s and uncles to tell them what to think. They need to go younger.
@@bthomas822Youngblood game
@@dreamcage1801 needs sum Young energy
NFL Live as well!
@@tiredperson6574 they are ruining hockey too I'm hearing
I skip nearly all network pre and post game coverage. I get my analysis from podcasts and video coverage like this show. I go to sources who know my team in detail or know the game I’m watching analytically. The networks don’t do this good enough to warrant my interest
Podcast bias asf too gtfoh just turn if the tv
@@tavoncox who cares about bias when it comes to who ppl think will win a game. if a tv broadcast isn't accurately breaking down both teams strengths and weakness i'd rather go some where my team will be talked about in detail
Exactly! It’s hillarious how their “annalysis” consist of them just spitting out a bunch of cliche’s. It’s like networks send out talking points that all of their shows HAVE TO say. Then you switch programs to see the same talking head saying the exact same thing on another channel.
ESPN continues to trend closer to WEE than sports media. They embrace and drive their "characters" and hot take machines. They spent the second half of the Knicks game celabrating and glamourizing the Knicks rather than give credit to the Greatest playoff shooting performance ever.
Against a tram missing 6 players including 4 starters. Not to mention another player playing was hurt.
As a lifelong Knikcs fan i think i speak for the entire fanbase when i say this, we absolutely hate when ESPN covers the Knicks, Especially Stephen A Smith. We dont like him, we dont claim, and we all would wish he would stop talking about the Knicks completely bc it makes is cringe everytime he mentions them. The only person we can stomach talking about the Knicks is Kendrick Perkins and our very own Mike Breen, the rest of espn can go to hell
Finally someone does that for the Knicks the media hate the Knicks it’s ridiculous and everytime we get a tiny bit of respect it’s a problem 😂
The knicks bin disrespected for so long and now they finally getting some love for the moment yall have a problem with it. Yall be quiet when they glaze the lakers
@@kingjaffijoe6893 The Knicks absolutely deserve accolades but there needs to be a little balance to it. I am a Lakers fan and can't stand when ESPN has to spend time on a Lebron narative or lsiting every player they "could" trade for that truly they have no chance of getting. That broadcast made it seem like Indiana winning was accidental and like they deservd 0 credit.
And us Knicks fans don’t like him. He is a front runner
We like Perk more 🙌🏾
ESPN focuses far too strongly on whatever teams or individuals the marketing department says has the largest fan base. T-Wolves were one of the best teams all year, and barely any national fans know about them.
Bc Minnesota
Next year it'll be good for them. All they use to do is make fun of the Knicks. A couple of good years now casuals fans hate the Knicks coverage. There is a lot of Knicks fans around the country
Inside the NBA feels like a bunch of friends talking about basketball... but also like they take the game seriously as its former all time greats talking about the game
Tim Legler just said he wasn't allowed to talk about the Pacers this season from ESPN.
Aww poor baby
But he talked about them.
Yup.. I heard him say that on russillo podcast.. Pacers weren't sexy enough to get any air time.
And… TNT inside the NBA is a perfect example of objectivity that we can love and laugh at
The “old” media is dead. The new media is are independent bloggers because those in the traditional media do not have the integrity to do what is best; just to protect the network’s brand.
Old media is owned by agents. “New media” in terms of players is just as biased.
The real new media is independent creators without an agenda who will tell the truth about the games - not worry about pampering these babies - that especially goes for the NBA.
@@LouSeph new media is EVEN WORSE!
Gilbert Arenas : biased to bronny, klutch sports, troll
JJ Redick: same
Ryan Clark : biased to black athletes big time. Race baiter
Deon sanders has over 100 Colorado channels putting out pure propaganda
Pablo hit it on the head and for the record TNT has the same problem. NFL doesn’t have all that goofy stuff and silly banter. Everything is about the game and nothing else.
they have the same problem, to a lesser extent. They have the banter, yes, but they also talk about the game itself. For me, it's a healthy balance. NBA Countdown is all sizzle, no steak. For the most part, NFL pregame shows are a little sizzle with a lot of steak.
Are u sure, cus I see Mac Afee acting d Fool too on MNF.
The moment we realize this is all part of d show and stop d whining, d better cus it ain't going anywhere soon.
People tune in for d full experience
Stephen A is the problem. Simple.
@@meks2kuul even MacAfee is nowhere near as destructive or does it at the same frequency. The other thing is that he’s the anomaly as the NFL has games on all 4 major networks but in the NBA it’s org partners and it’s the norm. I don’t mind some fun and silliness but even Pat knows when it’s game time.
Good that Le Batard joined Dan Patrick and Rich Eisen blasting Knicks centric broadcast by ESPN. This should stunt Stephen A from justifying their slanted coverage and blasting his critics for speaking the truth.
Greg Cote is right. Analytics and data that WE don’t need to know about is killing the sports game for causal viewers and fans
Fine line between too much analytics and just enough. Hopefully it will even out over time
Yep that right
Billy Greg and Stu all being on the same page is always genius comedy
On the games, I want a customizable screen. For baseball you can turn off K zone and launch angle stats. Like in video games where you can turn on and off your map in the corner.
Many people keep expressing nostalgia for the NBC Sports Group's last stint with the NBA, but if the NBCSG gets back into the NBA with the Roundball Rock song, things aren't gonna be like they were in 2002, when the sports division last had NBA rights. The media environment has changed a ton since then.
I think what Dan and others need to realize is that ESPN and 90% of sports media was always background, barbershop noise.
It was never must-see TV or anything people really cared about. It’s why ESPN host can be so easily replaced.
We just want something to occupy us between games.
Your statement is factually incorrect.
I absolutely agree. It’s on at bars, restaurants, barbershop, and the tv that you aren’t watching. It’s people just giving non stop takes that are often wrong. It’s not like it’s real news
Where was these complaints when everything was about Lebron and the Heat 10+ years ago
Right? lol
They didn’t have lead anchors openly rooting for the Heat, and I say that as a Cavaliers fan.
@@JamilSmith Dan LeBatard, is a Heat fan. I think that’s what he was getting at
100000000% remember they had "The Heat Index" 24 hour coverage of the Heat year round...he was loving in heaven!! lol now he mad
The Heat were winning titles the Knicks can't even make the conference finals
Funny thing is its only Stephen A Smith that's a Knicks fan and most people you see on tv networks are not Knicks fans.
Doris Burk and Mike Breen 🤣
SAS hardly even knows anything about the team. Right before the playoffs he was talking about how good quentin grimes and mitch robinson were doing going into the postseason. The first was traded at the deadline and the latter was out, injured, for weeks at the time. He then said how good Hartenstein was off the bench while mispronouncing his name, and he had been starting with robinson out.
There are so many better reasons to be mad at Stephen A. Smith and ESPN.
Thank you Dan for being the voice of reason, no one cares about the Knicks except NY. They compete like never before and loose like always.
I like the idea of an extra base on a successful.
You are mad at Stephen A Smith when frankly I'd like to see more honest coverage like this.
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This seems genuine…. Definitely not computer generated..
Lol Dan can’t go one week without talking about his ex-girlfriend espn. They definite his life and his work. Depressing
...like when Kirk Heirbstreit and OSU are on OR when Notre Dame football is on.
“It may be artificially generated but someone is complaining about coverage”. Well which on is it? Someone or just a lifeless algorithm?😂😂
SAS is a big Knicks fan so I wasn't surprised that he did that.
I remember Monday local hour Dan went the whole hour talking about the Knicks and how miserable StugotZ should be about the Knicks losing and he didn't notice (till pointed out) he was doing the exact same thing ESPN was doing cause he wasn't talking about the Pacers either 🤭💤
Great discussion
What I want is fair coverage. I want to know the teams and players that’s having a great season over the older super stars. Actually talk about what’s going on and bring back the journalist that actually follow the home team so we can know the facts of what’s happening with the team instead of sloppy journalism. Maybe I’m getting old but this new media on NBA and NFL games is becoming a joke and that’s why people can’t name more then 2 player’s on a number 1 or 2 seed in the NBA because they play for a small market
I don't think that I've ever clicked on a Le Batard video and seen his cohosts stay on topic and answer questions.
Watching the media you would never know that the Pacers were playing
If I were NBC, seeing as they just got the NBA rights away from TNT, I would try to hire the TNT crew, including Shaw, Charles, Kenny and Ernie. ESPN and ABC would be fucked!!
I don’t even pay attention ESPN before/during/ after any game. They’ve been trending low since they let Colin Cowherd walk some years back. I’m not even a fan of his but I saw his importance. Once Dan left, I don’t think I even notice what’s going on over there anymore. I get my sports from a few good podcasts, RUclips, and independent programs.
Wait, ESPN was focused on journalism at some point?
When ESPN showed Stephen A walking in the arena I wanted to puke
ESPN and sports journalism has been going down this path for awhile I don’t know why Dans acting like it’s just happening now
Thanks!
THANK YOU.
:40 sounds like A.I.
AkA wash rise repeat... Word Salad, No Carbs😂😂😂😂
In game interviews need to stop, especially in baseball. Why are you talking to the shortstop during gameplay?
Baseball is boring is the real problem
People want a show (pre- or post-game) to feel genuine (organic) sport people can tell when they are duped for content instead of having a feel good program. The 1990 NBC with their cast (Costas, Walton [R.I.P.], Magic, etc.) and the TNT inside crew are examples of what people want to hear during and post game. ESPN with Van Gundy and Jackson had a good broadcast team. But they dismantle it themselves and Countdown feels like a bunch of know it all talking sports instead of people discussing sport in a Bar/Pub like the Inside Crew feels like.
Some may say that if we see Stephen A. doing his homer act before Game 7, we should’ve seen him after they lost. How about not at all? You could fill his space with someone who has personality and can give you actual analysis. Pablo nailed it. Go back to the old NBC model.
Honestly I’m happy that NBA showtime is coming back
Yeah same i don’t watch any of those shows. I get my stuff from podcast and first things first now. Whatever they talking about it isn’t more important than what athletes talk about on podcast. I’m just glad we get to pick and choose and support who we want. The days of sitting around till waiting for sportscenter highlights are over. Now I just scroll and pick what I want to listen to like this topic. Your on my time line Stephen A is not. I stopped listening to him a long time ago. I’ll rather listen to Gil’s Arena than First Take
I like how they start by complaining about ESPN's vacuous coverage and then go in to a 5-minute tangent of shit takes complaining about being told exit velocity. Oh, the irony.
That's the joke bud
Same thing that makes you laugh can make you cry. I think this show is a major turning point in sports media. You mocked typical sports coverage and rallied all the trolls under a banner of intelligent skepticism. This show doesn’t get enough credit for that. The dichotomy of this show sitting along side most other ESPNs coverage was hilarious. But then all these journalists and tv personalities saw that there you could have success by being a real person and not just a mouth piece for industry propaganda. So as they compete with retiring athletes who can fire off takes and trade locker room secrets for clicks & likes, some of our more traditional sports programs are starting to compromise their professional standards for views.
SAS owes Kyrie an apology, and not enough people are calling him out on that. Fhkin' pathetic.
the louder Stephen A screams and slips into his "street talk" voice, the bigger his ratings get. Very sad but true. And true for a lot of ESPN hosts too. All ratings driven. If you yell and scream you get center stage.
Its because of SPORTS BETTING (regarding analytics)
But no outage over the LeBron-centric content, EVERYDAY?
They literally talk more about Caitlin Clark than LeBron everyday. Those days are over
@@LiKeMiKe103#MeBroadToo
Nba countdown is terrible. I don’t watch it anymore.
They deleted the comment about Dan being obsessed with his old company lol
Stephen A is a legendary basketball player and the best to ever play college for Winston Salem. He is the absolute king of b-ball as a player, announcer and especially fan. So he says and Lebtard swears
Hes gonna act like "The Heat Index" didnt exist where we followed everything Miami Heat right in the main ESPN page and that was all season not just a few games. Its a weak take, weather its Lakers, Cleveland, Warriors whoever is hot at the time gets the most coverage and noooooooo team was more Ra-Ra then your very own Heat!!
They have too many homers working on a national broadcast, with two that works on the Knicks broadcast. Then you got Greeny and his Jets whinning. Stephen A...nuff said.
Stop bitching
I thought the reasoning of inside the nba...is ending is because they are so superior to everyone else and you can't force feed us when it's still something out that we actually like instead of being the only option
Stugotz: I don’t like people who talk about games before or after they happen
Also stugotz: sports talk radio personality for decades
The "sports debate" shows ruined things in a way. We became saturated with so many of the hot take debates. ESPN needs better talent and shows. Their basketball coverage pales in comparison to Inside the NBA.
I mean you have the option to ignore some of the info/stat. Some people like it. If you don't like ESPN then change the channel
Dunno what the beef is, I didn't listen. Only here to say as a Knick fan. We do not claim or recognize Stephen A as a Knick fan lol. I have spoken.
Pablo, ppl now understand sports are not the most important thing going on in the world, at any given time on any continent. They just aren't important and we dont care as much.
I want espn to get of the sports business. Ever since espn got the nba it has gone down hill
ESPN needs to just give their coverage of everything but the NFL up. They don't focus, care, or put money towards anything but football. The characters are there for a hot take. It's so tacky.
the ESPN NBA podcasters like lowe and windy basically crap on ESPN for this on thier show all the time lol. its sad but true. imma knick fan and i cringed so much.
You damn right we were mad I'm still mad a lot of people loss money because of those two clowns
I think this is somewhat of a skewed perspective. I get it's not conventional journalism, but these aren't conventional times. The successful sports shows are that way because of the personalities and cohesion of those behind the mics. A big part of that is who they pick to win or hot takes'. I wanted the Pacers to win simply because of how Stephen A was acting and I was mad they didnt have a postgame show because I wanted to see how distraught he was. But I was tuned in promptly at 10am they next day to see it. Used to do the same thing with Skip and Shannon. That's what drives engagement.
Drives engagement only for feeble-minded people.
ESPN has become like WWE they're trying to appeal to Casual fans but are alienating the hardcore smart fans
How is WWE alienating the hardcore fan??
@@user-uj3ts3iu4b because the hardcore smart fans hate Sports entertainment they want wwe to be more focused on wrestling instead of gimmicks
@@robertjones9595 so you're saying the hardcore WWE fans want it to be like AEW?? Lol not true at all. Triple H has been giving you more match time. More to pro wrestling then just in ring work. What you're saying is completely false. You get nothing but wrestling in AEW which has tons of WWE talent and nobody watches that crap
@@user-uj3ts3iu4b that's because aew don't have story lines hardcore wrestling fans want good wrestling and good story lines but they don't want Sports entertainment basically the Vince McMahon way of pro wrestling
Ppl who complain are the ppl who dont wanna see NY win anyways. They hate how Knicks fanbase are passionate about their team and they mad the knicks finally getting some love after being disrespected for decades
I didn’t know people still watch ESPN. It’s all about the New Media. The best sports shows are exclusively on RUclips. Dan and the old media needs to just go away. Nobody will miss you guys… I promise.
ESPN realizes there are more Knicks fans than Pacers, Mavs and Nuggets combined 🤣🤣
I bet the clicks stop now that they're out of the playoffs..
This headline alone probably got you more views than your others combined
Jason Whitlock said the same thing. That was annoying as hell to watch.
Dan is such a slave when it comes to talking about sports media, ratings and ESPN. Pathetic 🤦♂️
Unfortunately they’re dinosaur, they’re incapable of adapting. Complaining about AI and added stats which is progression 😂
Im sad that human interest, business, & investigative sports journalism is dying because of a combination of cynicism, bad-faith business practice, & a reductive view of sports fans
They only allow big market narratives through. Look at all the Shannon Sharpe Laker glazing. Everytime Neil Everett brought up the Blazers, everyone that wasn't Stan Verrett looked annoyed. The Ducks? Totally different story because they're Uncle Phil's toy. Also Neil Everett was always fair and didn't dominate with Blazers talk because he was a SC host and they're mostly unbiased. The Athletic is a lot better but print journalism isn't valued much because it's hard to do journalism in any field and/or form these days. Inside the NBA is great because it's entertaining while not playing favorites.
ESPN is all about profit. Big markets is what they care about. Not competition.
I never understood why Dan could ever defend that clown 🤡 Steven A Smith.
3:47 Bunting It
So just watch the game. Done..
In the famous words of MJ PACERS have fans too
I think subconsciously what makes Inside so popular is that it's a safe space for men to watch and laugh at highbrow antics. Chuck got away with talking about San Antonio women for years. It was so funny and guess what? SA women coming back at him was just as funny. No WNBA freeloaders being force down our throats. Just guys being guys.
Also, ESPN has lazy producers. How many times do they have to make a list of the greatest blah blah. Inside has high quality and innovative producers that enhances the show. Something as simple as Kenny on the Stairlift was masterful producing and execution.
Lastly, Inside doesn't feel like an elitist studio show because with Twitter, they include the viewers who are just as funny as the guys on the set. So there is a lasting relationship that is established.
Coming from Dan is funny. Hes the one who interviewed a man who thought he was a goat when he was on ESPN 😂 cmon Dan
Thabo Sefolosha.
espn are just trying to do the same thing inside the nba does. its not a problem with the formula, its a problem with the personalities. they're trying to do it but they come across as corny cos a lot of them don't have the personality of a shaq or a chuck nor host like ej. its that simple. we don't need over analysis of games. if we did, inside the nba and espn first take wont be as big as they are
This is just old ppl hate change. Accept it
I simply cant stand to look or hear stephen a talk sports
So no one had an issue with Game 5 being about Reggie Miller
ESPN has been awful for a long time, sadly. Aside from live sporting events, the personalities can't hold a candle to the OGs of the 90s and early 2000s. There is no edge or good people. They fire the good ones and empower the bad ones who have horrible takes or just like to scream. They got rid of people who know their stuff in favor of someone/people who know nothing about it. Get rid of McAfee and Sceamin' A.
Knicks have nothing to do with why everyone hates that fool.
ESPN is leaking fluid…. No one cares about Shannon loving LeBron, SA loving the knicks or on FS1 Nick loving the chiefs… we can go elsewhere for content and the bubble is about to burst…
My complaint is espn personalities are less and less likable. Every year they double down on unlikability. Like the rest of the world. But it still wins somehow
You know, some of us _like_ statistics. I can't help you if you don't like numbers and just want to retreat into an ignorant shell, but baseball has always been about statistics, they're just useful now instead of RBIs and pitcher wins. It's true that inefficient plays are fun as hell - bunting, stealing, the whole 9 yards. That stuff is what makes baseball fun, but it turns out mashing homers is more effective. Don't whine about the analytics that figured out what wins, make the rules favor the fun stuff.
Espn has been shit for a long time. There was just nowhere else to go. We don't need them anymore and it just shows they haven't known what they're doing for a long time
I really hate anything with SAS ... all he does is find ways to brag about himself
Hating on the MLB stat cast is stupid and no wonder the league has people changing the channel
Clicked on this video just to comment...this show remind me of the view..and that's bad
Royals fan still don’t like Joe Buck!
Stephen A is a wart on the ass of sports media.
ESPN is joke. Especially First Take. Who cares how good your suit looks or what Molly is wearing. It’s like the “Real Sports Analyst of Connecticut.