That phrase "a failure of imagination" has always stuck with me. It's amazing to realize how many man-made disasters occur because somebody didn't think it could go wrong in that way.
I was nine years old when this happened. As a little boy i was confused and thought they had actually flown the spacecraft. Years later I realized it was a flight simulation. But the images of Roger Chaffee, Edward White and Gus Grissom will forever live in my mind. Brave Men. Let us Remember Major Robert H. Lawrence Jr. Elliot See and Charlie Basset along with the Space Shuttle crew members lost in the quest to explore outer space.
15 seconds, it was a very rapid death but definitely felt like ages to the crew. Absolutely horrible all around. They probably finally realized there was no way possible to get out right before the explosion.
The autopsy confirmed they died of toxic fume inhalation and those fumes only formed after a crack emerged in the hatch that displaced some of the 100% oxygen in the cockpit allowing smoke to form which they inhaled through breathing tubes burned through by fire. Realistically it took about 60 seconds and if you sit there and count it out that is not quick. However these men had wives and children and I doubt anyone wanted to admit how bad this was at the time.
Two things never happened again after that day. The sisters never again tested in pure oxygen without an explosive release hatch. and Gus never flew again. They shipped him to a special room in heaven upstate, to the best of my mind he spent his days watching his friends fly successful after successful mission, and he was with loving every second of it. And that was it, that was Gus’s routine…..
If your science teacher told you to never ever underestimate the speed of fire, now you know why. Whatever can take a minute or two to describe can happen in just 15 seconds.
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Grissom: Fire! White: We've got a fire in the cockpit!
Who's fault? My fault Love that line! Beuracrats sitting back wanting to place blame and point fingers. I'm actually surprised no other fatalities occurred during Mercury, Gemini and Apollo. Such a monumental undertaking. Yet NASA lost two shuttle missions
Every man who worked on Apollo... How true those words, because everyone did feel guilty--like they had let the crew down personally And every one did their best to make sure it didn't happen again Even when it did, with 13, they got them home alive
He in For All Mankind aswell And Chris kraft in 2020 the right stuff, and Gene krantz in “for all mankind” are both played by the same guy. And kraft and krantz has the same job as flight director.
This accident was normal... I was not alive back then, I was born exactly when the Apollo XI was returning to earth after their whole adventure... But what I remember well was Ayrton Senna's fatal accident at the Tamburello fast corner, at Imola's track... going 270 km/h, that's quite a lot more than a whole street block per second. These guys, either seeking to expand the science and engineering envelope in the race to space or to do so in the two dimensional way we call the most extreme technological automobile racing... they are doing an extremely dangerous thing, and even with the most extreme safety measures bad things will occur, and did. Not sure if Gorman did spoke at the Senate hearings, but if he did I wish he or someone like him could have spoken at the F1 hearings back then at 1994 and 95... because the witch trials continued for years after Senna and Ratzemberger's accidents, and blame was thrown and accusations were made: Williams Racing got a severe penalty, one which would cripple their sponsor relationship forever. And it was just an accident. Gus, Ed and Roger... along other men who have risk their lives because it's their job, not just extreme athletes like Senna, or Villeneuve, or Clark... they are heroes, and I guess it was a better way to go than having a very mundane skiing accident while almost standing still (Michael Schumacher)... horrible to die burning, but damn it I think I would prefer it than having a pointless life and death: Apollo I's crew were exceptional. Sorry, I had to write this... damn good TV series, and I am glad you posted this video. Thanks
Would have thought in their suits that they would have had a chance. But they were connected to the spacecraft systems and thus breathed the fumes. When the ground crew finally got the hatch open most of their suits were still white. An unprecedented and preventable disaster which forced everyone to stop and take a damn good look at themselves.
The seats were changed shortly after that, and we're a lot more dependable. You are correct, however that Stu Rosa said the suits were white and the bodies were not charred [though they did suffer severe burns].
Imagine the conditions inside that craft.. the heat would have climbed to an unbearable temperature. The pressure inside grew high enough to seal thee inward opening hatch closed. It could not be opened no matter how much they tried. If the heat and the pressure didnt get them, the fumed would have(even with the spacesuits). They had no chance. From what I have read, the heat emanating from the command module was so high, that it was quite some time before the "white room" crew could enter the white room. After this fire, the idea of testing on the pad with a pure oxygen atmosphere at 18psi pressure was abandoned due to the risks it posed.
Right. There's a brief scene earlier in the episode where Joe Shea (Kevin Pollak) recalls examining the capsule interior after the crew had been removed from it and Deke Slayton (Nick Searcy) standing nearby notes that the crew asphyxiated from the smoke rather than burned to death.
What could they use? Water and foam would short the electrics ( and probably wouldn't work in space anyway) CO2 and halon would compromise the breathing atmosphere. Dry power would just float around.... 🫤
This is untrue. They did imagine this possibility and chose oxygen rich anyway. They did no safety test nor give caution to material selection. In fact, oxygen rich fires in chambers have happened before this test. More honestly, they needed a caring safety specialist who is qualified and obsessively knowledgeable about details. It was hydrocarbon derived materials within pressurized 100% ultra-reactive oxygen inside a sealed container. The energetic, instability potential would've been obvious to any explosives specialist to be the equivalent of a crude oxyliquit (liquid oxygen) bomb which had been well known to be sensitive to sparks or even less. The lack of imagination to hire someone like that I could agree with.
There were some accidents with space travel and using an oxygen rich environment. The problem is that they were all in the Soviet Union, which hid them. Oddly enough, it made sense. Hell, they kept such an environment even after this accident. Mainly because nitrogen has a bunch of risks in such a situation and can be heavy to haul in space. The big issue was all the wiring and other problems with the craft. But, all of those issues were known. The Block I Command Module was a damned mess and everyone knew it. But, NASA was under pressure, so they went ahead with it anyway.
@@kingofthings7929 as much as this is late; Harrison Storms went off on NASA for using this sort of environment. NASA did not use pure oxygen after the findings were released, they went back to a mix
@@thatoneskierdude4410 Only during launch, after Apollo 1 of course. See, Oxygen is something you gotta haul for air and fuel. Nitrogen would only be there to mix with oxygen. So, they’d launch with the mix of Nitrogen and Oxygen, then vent the nitrogen and replace the atmosphere of the capsule with pure oxygen.
Giving up when there's a problem is not American. Those astronauts believed in what they were doing and gave their lives for it. I think that's the problem today. We fail. We fail to react accordingly, we cancel and get rid of things that we don't understand or want to try to. The slightest flaw means it's gone. We scare easily and look for a place where we can cry in our safe places and safe spaces. We expect the trophy because we participated and not realize the effort that goes into it. The individual grade as opposed to the absolutes of life. Succeed or fail. There's no A for trying. We're so quick to erase who we are and put down values. Are we going to be hated by a future generation for what we do in our present?
That phrase "a failure of imagination" has always stuck with me. It's amazing to realize how many man-made disasters occur because somebody didn't think it could go wrong in that way.
It genuinely shows that regardless of how unlikely something seems, the right safety measures must be taken whatever happens.
I was nine years old when this happened. As a little boy i was confused and thought they had actually flown the spacecraft. Years later I realized it was a flight simulation. But the images of Roger Chaffee, Edward White and Gus Grissom will forever live in my mind. Brave Men. Let us Remember Major Robert H. Lawrence Jr. Elliot See and Charlie Basset along with the Space Shuttle crew members lost in the quest to explore outer space.
15 seconds, it was a very rapid death but definitely felt like ages to the crew. Absolutely horrible all around. They probably finally realized there was no way possible to get out right before the explosion.
The autopsy confirmed they died of toxic fume inhalation and those fumes only formed after a crack emerged in the hatch that displaced some of the 100% oxygen in the cockpit allowing smoke to form which they inhaled through breathing tubes burned through by fire. Realistically it took about 60 seconds and if you sit there and count it out that is not quick. However these men had wives and children and I doubt anyone wanted to admit how bad this was at the time.
Gus: fire
Ed: we gotta fire in the cockpit
Roger: we gotta bad fire
Ad Astra per Aspera 🌟🇺🇸
RIP heroes. Never forgotten.
1/27/1967, 57 years ago today.
Gus Grissom
Roger Chaffee
Ed White
Two things never happened again after that day.
The sisters never again tested in pure oxygen without an explosive release hatch.
and Gus never flew again.
They shipped him to a special room in heaven upstate, to the best of my mind he spent his days watching his friends fly successful after successful mission, and he was with loving every second of it. And that was it, that was Gus’s routine…..
I get it.
Why am I hearing Morgan Freeman’s narration?
(Mark Ralston. An actor for all seasons)
RIP Apollo 1 crew.
If your science teacher told you to never ever underestimate the speed of fire, now you know why. Whatever can take a minute or two to describe can happen in just 15 seconds.
Grissom: Fire!
White: We've got a fire in the cockpit!
What a tragedy!
Who's fault?
My fault
Love that line!
Beuracrats sitting back wanting to place blame and point fingers.
I'm actually surprised no other fatalities occurred during Mercury, Gemini and Apollo.
Such a monumental undertaking.
Yet NASA lost two shuttle missions
Every man who worked on Apollo...
How true those words, because everyone did feel guilty--like they had let the crew down personally
And every one did their best to make sure it didn't happen again
Even when it did, with 13, they got them home alive
I think we should stop this witch hunt, and let us go to the moon
It's funny how David Andrews plays Frank Borman in this, and Pete Conrad in Apollo 13.
A fair number of _Apollo 13_ actors showed up, albeit in different roles.
Brett Cullen and the actor who played John Young..and Roger Chafee as well
He in For All Mankind aswell
And Chris kraft in 2020 the right stuff, and Gene krantz in “for all mankind” are both played by the same guy.
And kraft and krantz has the same job as flight director.
He also played General Creswell in the last season of JAG as well
Paul McCrane is the best Pete Conrad...
This accident was normal...
I was not alive back then, I was born exactly when the Apollo XI was returning to earth after their whole adventure...
But what I remember well was Ayrton Senna's fatal accident at the Tamburello fast corner, at Imola's track... going 270 km/h, that's quite a lot more than a whole street block per second.
These guys, either seeking to expand the science and engineering envelope in the race to space or to do so in the two dimensional way we call the most extreme technological automobile racing... they are doing an extremely dangerous thing, and even with the most extreme safety measures bad things will occur, and did.
Not sure if Gorman did spoke at the Senate hearings, but if he did I wish he or someone like him could have spoken at the F1 hearings back then at 1994 and 95... because the witch trials continued for years after Senna and Ratzemberger's accidents, and blame was thrown and accusations were made: Williams Racing got a severe penalty, one which would cripple their sponsor relationship forever. And it was just an accident.
Gus, Ed and Roger... along other men who have risk their lives because it's their job, not just extreme athletes like Senna, or Villeneuve, or Clark... they are heroes, and I guess it was a better way to go than having a very mundane skiing accident while almost standing still (Michael Schumacher)... horrible to die burning, but damn it I think I would prefer it than having a pointless life and death: Apollo I's crew were exceptional.
Sorry, I had to write this... damn good TV series, and I am glad you posted this video. Thanks
Would have thought in their suits that they would have had a chance. But they were connected to the spacecraft systems and thus breathed the fumes. When the ground crew finally got the hatch open most of their suits were still white. An unprecedented and preventable disaster which forced everyone to stop and take a damn good look at themselves.
The seats were changed shortly after that, and we're a lot more dependable. You are correct, however that Stu Rosa said the suits were white and the bodies were not charred [though they did suffer severe burns].
Imagine the conditions inside that craft.. the heat would have climbed to an unbearable temperature. The pressure inside grew high enough to seal thee inward opening hatch closed. It could not be opened no matter how much they tried. If the heat and the pressure didnt get them, the fumed would have(even with the spacesuits). They had no chance.
From what I have read, the heat emanating from the command module was so high, that it was quite some time before the "white room" crew could enter the white room.
After this fire, the idea of testing on the pad with a pure oxygen atmosphere at 18psi pressure was abandoned due to the risks it posed.
They all had third degree burns across 33-50%+ of their bodies. Their suits melted
Great episode.
It’s my fault. Words to live by and say out loud.
They all had "the right stuff" .
I said how are we going to get to the moon if we can't talk between two or three buildings?
🔥 is the worst way to go plus the smoke killed the crew not the fire
I can't imagine their terror until the fire burned through their suit air hoses and they mercifully passed out and suffocated....
Right. There's a brief scene earlier in the episode where Joe Shea (Kevin Pollak) recalls examining the capsule interior after the crew had been removed from it and Deke Slayton (Nick Searcy) standing nearby notes that the crew asphyxiated from the smoke rather than burned to death.
Looks like, according to the recordings, that they burned to death
🔥💯frfr
Someone linked this because the real Frank Borman just died - another to rest in peace
do you have any more of them Pixels?
Probably there was someone who thought of it and was told to shut up by a superior.
Why were there no fire extinguishers in the capsule?
too heavy? would they spray properly in space?
What could they use? Water and foam would short the electrics ( and probably wouldn't work in space anyway) CO2 and halon would compromise the breathing atmosphere. Dry power would just float around.... 🫤
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This is untrue. They did imagine this possibility and chose oxygen rich anyway. They did no safety test nor give caution to material selection.
In fact, oxygen rich fires in chambers have happened before this test. More honestly, they needed a caring safety specialist who is qualified and obsessively knowledgeable about details. It was hydrocarbon derived materials within pressurized 100% ultra-reactive oxygen inside a sealed container. The energetic, instability potential would've been obvious to any explosives specialist to be the equivalent of a crude oxyliquit (liquid oxygen) bomb which had been well known to be sensitive to sparks or even less.
The lack of imagination to hire someone like that I could agree with.
There were some accidents with space travel and using an oxygen rich environment. The problem is that they were all in the Soviet Union, which hid them.
Oddly enough, it made sense. Hell, they kept such an environment even after this accident. Mainly because nitrogen has a bunch of risks in such a situation and can be heavy to haul in space. The big issue was all the wiring and other problems with the craft.
But, all of those issues were known. The Block I Command Module was a damned mess and everyone knew it. But, NASA was under pressure, so they went ahead with it anyway.
@@kingofthings7929 as much as this is late; Harrison Storms went off on NASA for using this sort of environment. NASA did not use pure oxygen after the findings were released, they went back to a mix
@@thatoneskierdude4410 Only during launch, after Apollo 1 of course. See, Oxygen is something you gotta haul for air and fuel. Nitrogen would only be there to mix with oxygen. So, they’d launch with the mix of Nitrogen and Oxygen, then vent the nitrogen and replace the atmosphere of the capsule with pure oxygen.
Giving up when there's a problem is not American. Those astronauts believed in what they were doing and gave their lives for it. I think that's the problem today. We fail. We fail to react accordingly, we cancel and get rid of things that we don't understand or want to try to. The slightest flaw means it's gone. We scare easily and look for a place where we can cry in our safe places and safe spaces. We expect the trophy because we participated and not realize the effort that goes into it. The individual grade as opposed to the absolutes of life. Succeed or fail. There's no A for trying. We're so quick to erase who we are and put down values. Are we going to be hated by a future generation for what we do in our present?
Give me some examples instead of cliched generalities.
Gus: Fire
Ed: We gotta fire in the cockpit
Roger: We gotta bad fire