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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • Sharkbite recently "upped" their game with the new EvoPEX fitting, but are they any better? Watch to find out!
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    Start - 00:00
    Insertion depth improvement - 00:46
    O-ring protection - 01:30
    No deburring needed - 01:50
    Better sealing method - 02:17
    Theft concern - 03:04
    Dislikes - 03:34
    My opinion - 4:44
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Комментарии • 447

  • @straightman2018
    @straightman2018 2 года назад +53

    Not being able to remove the evo-pex fittings makes them a nonstarter for me. It means not only having to replace the fittings but the pex tubing that is now too short. Mistakes become VERY EXPENSIVE.

    • @macjram40
      @macjram40 Год назад

      $30 down the drain for me.

    • @jnelson1113
      @jnelson1113 Год назад

      Same here brother

    • @T_bone
      @T_bone 3 месяца назад

      I can use the shark bite to temporarily shut off water for an emergency leak until I can make a permanent repair. This allows me to have the water on in the home without having to complete the job.

  • @aaronward4705
    @aaronward4705 Год назад +5

    Your videos are always very informative. I appreciate your work!

  • @Tom-ej8bb
    @Tom-ej8bb Год назад +5

    As a Technician of 40 years retired, you are a blessing to all who work in the field!! TY Your info regarding copper plumbing especially, has shown me a few tricks too!! TY

  • @danieltran475
    @danieltran475 4 года назад +2

    Have some work to do around the home and came across your channel. Your videos are incredibly helpful. Keep up the great work and thanks so much!

  • @duanestockton2924
    @duanestockton2924 3 года назад +2

    Very informative! This gave me a much better comparison on what to use for my plumbing job. Thanks!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @jnelson1113
    @jnelson1113 Год назад +10

    Great video! Very clean & informative. I use both systems but I do like the brass fittings better. Being able to remove a fitting if a mistake is made is an absolute game changer. I also use both copper & pex so brass sharkbite is my go to

  • @nista67
    @nista67 4 года назад +7

    Yet another excellent presentation. Thorough and succinct. Thanks. 👏👍✌

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Thanks man, please share if you can ;)

    • @nista67
      @nista67 4 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn
      Sure, of course.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      thanks a million man, really appreciate it!

  • @carolsydney6905
    @carolsydney6905 3 года назад +7

    Good comments from everyone. I plan to use pex pipe and fittings in two bath remodels. I live in a 35 year old double wide and am doing more of stopgap installations than permanent. I've never done pluming before so I chose to do the above for simplicity sake. I've paid attention to all down sides of using pex and can be careful not to make those mistakes. The biggest factor for me right now is price. I cannot afford a plumber or I would use one. These are both in wall installations that I can make a removable panel on the back of the wall so leaks are fixable.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      🙏🙏🙏

    • @Savagethecokecan
      @Savagethecokecan Год назад

      Crimp or clamp fittings are super easy to install with pex and way more reliable

  • @T.E.P.
    @T.E.P. 4 года назад +1

    another stellar demo!!! great job

  • @empirestate8791
    @empirestate8791 3 года назад +16

    Flow rate is a big issue. The o ring is inside the pipe and severely reduces the cross sectional area. Theres certainly less water flowing!

  • @donaldbarden6294
    @donaldbarden6294 2 года назад +9

    I was somewhat dubious about Sharkbite fittings in the beginning. But after New Jersey approved them for in wall use, my worries subsided. It’s hard to get anything new approved in New Jersey!

  • @brett4264
    @brett4264 3 года назад +33

    That flow problem is enough for me to never use them. Marking a peice of pipe is no big deal.

    • @bobgreene2892
      @bobgreene2892 3 года назад +3

      I agree-- what is the point of installing an oversize ID PEX line, merely to assure adequate flow through EvoPEX connectors? The advantages of EvoPEX in greater permanence and rotational flexibility do count for something, but not nearly as much on most installations as avoiding the higher per-foot cost of a larger pipe for EvoPEX than otherwise needed (with the added issues of reduced flexibility with the larger PEX pipe IDs),
      Besides, with Sharkbite, "permanence" is only relative to the old Sharkbite design, not an absolute-- which explains continued popularity of the crimped and clamped connections.

  • @clintonrouse8751
    @clintonrouse8751 4 года назад +2

    Great video explaining. I'm no plumber but I've used the sharkbite fittings in a couple areas and I'm impressed with the simplicity of them. I think they are geared more for DIYers at the moment. With the high cost of plumbers these days this product creates and solution to problems.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      ;)

    • @Honestandtruth
      @Honestandtruth 2 года назад

      @@Got2Learn Can we used SharkBite for Underground.. ???

  • @nelsonechevarria7009
    @nelsonechevarria7009 4 года назад +1

    DUDE!!!The 18volt press tool that I told you about and gave you links to totally rocks!!!I received the four press jaw set that I ordered for U.S. copper pipe sizes from 1/2" to 1-1/4",I pressed a 1/2" copper press elbow to a piece of 1/2" copper pipe that I plan to use to connect a bypass line from my boiler's hot water coil to my water heater in case I ever have to swap out the boiler's hot water coil and WOW!!!I looked at the press joint with a magnifying glass and there is no way the 1/2" press elbow is coming off of the 1/2" copper pipe unless the elbow is ripped from the copper pipe which from what I can see and tell isn't going to be any easy task.I'm totally amazed and impressed.

    • @nelsonechevarria7009
      @nelsonechevarria7009 4 года назад +1

      Two or three seconds and BOOM!!!The 1/2" copper press elbow was pressed onto a 1/2" piece of copper pipe.No more soldering up on a ladder in celings and in walls,from now on I'll solder on the ground then once what ever it is that I need to solder is soldered and cooled I'll use press couplings,press elbows and press tees to connect the soldered valves or unions to the rest of my copper pipes and done deal,I'm loving it my Brother.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      Awesome man, so glad o hear it works well, probably do a video on this in the future :)

    • @nelsonechevarria7009
      @nelsonechevarria7009 4 года назад +1

      I hope so my Brother because many people that have the know how but do not have several thousand dollars to spend on a press tool could really benefit from a 18volt press tool like the one that I now own.I'm completely amazed at how fast and how well I can join copper pipe without risking a fire which no matter how careful we are is always a risk.The most expensive of the press fittings are the ball valves and the unions but I will solder copper nipples to sweat ball valves and sweat unions on the ground then connect the sweat ball valves and sweat unions with press couplings,press elbows and press tees which will lower the price of having to do the work considerably.It's truly the best of both worlds,no more soldering up on ladders in ceilings and walls or near rafters.

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 4 года назад

      Can you give name of that tool or a link to it? Thanks. Because just about everyone is using 18V battery powered tools already, and with battery adapters now being on the market one can even get a tool from another brand yet still use the batteries and charger from their main / preferred brand.

    • @ohger1
      @ohger1 3 года назад

      Propress relies on an O-ring like the Sharkbites. Compression probably improve the process but I've never trusted O-rings.

  • @williammccoy9854
    @williammccoy9854 4 года назад +2

    Great video! I wish I could leave picture comments. I'm working on my 3ed bathroom in my house. The plumbing has been a breeze since I switched everything to PEX from galvanized/pvc...

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      That is awesome, so much easier to work with, good job William!

  • @plumbbuild6517
    @plumbbuild6517 4 года назад +3

    I've had a few of those fittings in my van for several months I hadn't been able to bring myself to use any of them, I have them for a midnight emergency, I use uponor pex A more than pex B on all repipes but I use pex B on most repairs or copper if I'm working on a copper job, thanks for your videos

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Awesome man, glad to hear :)

    • @diverbob8
      @diverbob8 4 года назад +1

      I spend a bit for Pex A as well...and I have used it for general process applications like compressed air, chemicals, etc. in heavy industry with 100% success. Also, in two years, I have not had a single freeze up failure in intermittantly heated subfreezing locations during winter weather.

    • @plumbbuild6517
      @plumbbuild6517 4 года назад +1

      @@diverbob8 I agree even if it freezes it will not bust.

    • @plumbbuild6517
      @plumbbuild6517 4 года назад +1

      @@diverbob8 I agree even if it freezes it will not bust.

  • @steveraleigh100
    @steveraleigh100 9 месяцев назад

    I've been looking at the brass sharkbite and evopex for a small job in my laundry.
    I didn't know that EvoPex doesn't work with copper. As I have to transition from copper to pex, I'll go with the brass fittings.
    Thank you.

  • @paulvild
    @paulvild 4 года назад +92

    It seams to me that the reduction in flow due to loss of diameter would be a big reason to not choose them.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +7

      It's the same like PEX fittings.

    • @pattognozzi
      @pattognozzi 4 года назад +6

      Got2Learn True. A tube with 7mm diameter has twice the volume as 5mm. 10mm has 4x the volume as 5mm.

    • @nc3826
      @nc3826 3 года назад +5

      Not Pex A expansion fittings... which cheaper too.... and the brass ones are better for emergency, since they can be removed for a permanent repair...

    • @realmadrid091884
      @realmadrid091884 3 года назад +7

      I would oversize it to prevent flow restriction

    • @pattognozzi
      @pattognozzi 3 года назад +6

      Heber rivera Yeah. Or just use PEX A instead of PEX B and avoid all those issues.

  • @fiver-hoo
    @fiver-hoo 3 года назад +3

    I only use sharkbites on retrofit transitions and repairs. Since evopex is pex only, not sure why I'd ever use one over the propex I'm already invested in (and love)

  • @Karabetter
    @Karabetter 4 года назад +3

    Very informative & well made video!
    The restriction makes this fitting a hard sell for me. :)

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yup, and for many people too :(

  • @juancastillo5078
    @juancastillo5078 2 года назад +1

    Thats why the expanding Wirsoboro Uponor stuff is so good. The fittings have a larger ID, similar to actual copper. My house is 3/4pex but im going to AquaPex asap!

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 2 года назад

      Installing my Uponor in a few days, still tidying up the electrical... Shark Bites are ok for quick temporary repairs, I would not trust them for years of service.

  • @aaron6049
    @aaron6049 3 года назад +6

    As a new student of plumbing I love that this channel is CANADIAN and current on code issues. Thank you for your hard work making these awesome video's.

  • @th3drizzl378
    @th3drizzl378 4 года назад +6

    much better all copper press type fitting brands out there with dual o rings on both sides and nicely curved bends. used those a few times and never had a single issue.

  • @elizabethhoward1023
    @elizabethhoward1023 4 месяца назад +1

    I was about to try and use this fitting on copper pipe to pex for first time but was having a hard time fully seating it as it took alot of pressure so I stopped to see why and now I know I cant use it anyway. Thanks because I was about to cut my water line!

  • @apex007
    @apex007 4 года назад +31

    You should do a video testing pull out strength on both fittings. That would be interesting to see

  • @larrymar19
    @larrymar19 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video again

  • @Hughmungus0909
    @Hughmungus0909 Год назад +6

    I have personally looked at these Evo pex fittings and looked closely at the diameter of the water passage, and it is extremely small, therefore limiting water flow way more than any other style fitting that I’ve seen
    More water flow is always better

  • @TheRealoldcar
    @TheRealoldcar 3 года назад +4

    I would not use it mass quantity behind walls or buried since its rated at 25 years unless the coupler locations are clearly documented and easy to access and or there is no better alternative or it provides an advantage that is matched by no other. I have several location which I installed SB valves and couplers up to 1.25" over 10 years and no issues as of yet. The 25th year will tell. If I need a connection to be reliable and forgettable, I would install copper.

  • @diverbob8
    @diverbob8 4 года назад +18

    Not removable and lower flow, forget it! I'll bet they cost more as well...

  • @LG-ct8tw
    @LG-ct8tw 9 месяцев назад +2

    The restriction makes it a no no for me as, to keep the flow of an 1/2 inch, you have to switch to 3\4 and the associated extra cost . The permanent aspect of it is also a No Go for me. I would have liked a price comparison too, maybe the Evo brings it back to a reasonable level. Mean time I'll stick with barbed fittings and collars.

  • @mikemike7397
    @mikemike7397 3 года назад +5

    The force of weight needed and the permanent fixture is the reason I won’t go with it you had me with the rest until you got to those last two

  • @Kirtirajsardesai
    @Kirtirajsardesai 2 года назад

    What if I use sharkbite push connector on a pex-a will it reduce the pressure. I am repositioning a 3 ft hydronic baseboard 4ft away and thinking of using pex-a with sharkbite to transition from copper to pex to connect the loop.

  • @artorodelagarza277
    @artorodelagarza277 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for your information ℹ️

  • @LearnPlumbing
    @LearnPlumbing 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the cross sectional view of both. I personally don't use sharkbites in my business for a number of reasons.
    1. They do leak. Like you said if the pipe is scratched at all you will have a weaper. Also.if there's any tension on.them like bending around something they will leak.
    2. If I keep them around and let my Plumbers think they are ok to use they will get lazy and install them everywhere.
    3. Our philosophy is we install Pioe and Fittings that we can drop kick when done and it won't leak. Sounds silly.but if that's our standard then our piping is solid and ready to last lifespan of the building.
    These fittings defiently have a purpose for a homeowner to make a 1zy or 2zy repair here or there. However I would not recommend a Plumbing Contractor to Plumb an entire house with it.
    I hope I'm not acting like our forefathers who said pex was the end of the trade as they where threading in Galvanized Pipe. I have installed a few sharkbites and have had a leak on or two due to tension on the fitting...

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  9 месяцев назад

      You have good standards 👌

  • @five-forty3431
    @five-forty3431 3 года назад +1

    Excellent comparison!

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Thank you very much!!

  • @garethprobert4352
    @garethprobert4352 Год назад +1

    love them, use all the time

  • @DireNeeds
    @DireNeeds 3 года назад +5

    So the first time we used the evopex where I am employed we had the green indicator saying we had a good fit but it leaked. That's when we discovered that it's a permanent connector. We had to cut the pipe and that messed things up for us.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Ouch, what was the cause, do you know???

    • @DireNeeds
      @DireNeeds 3 года назад +3

      @@Got2Learn it turns out that it could only be used on pex, something that we didn't learn until I watched this video. It was never mentioned on the packaging. So it leaked when we used it copper and then had to cut it off.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      @@DireNeeds 👌

  • @Remrie
    @Remrie 3 года назад +1

    For simplicity and cost I would just crimp the pex, but with flow rates and such, if you or a customer have certain needs, that will probably affect other decisions.

    • @osmanvincent1975
      @osmanvincent1975 2 года назад +1

      suggest considering expansion or propex, get the full bore size of the tubing and its more flexible, less fittings

  • @melmartinez7002
    @melmartinez7002 4 месяца назад +1

    I mainly use sharkbites for transitions and places where I know I will or at least might want to change it out so prefer the classic brass ones over evopex. And actually, when I can find them, I really like the newer SharkBite Max fittings since those don't need the plastic insert inside pex tubing.

  • @joshcowart2446
    @joshcowart2446 4 года назад +7

    Restriction is something it seems a lot of people don’t consider. A fitting here or there shouldn’t matter but in a big job it might need to upsize everything one size. That’s why we use uponor only for pex. Of course uponor isn’t the only expansion pex option

  • @ratchriat1716
    @ratchriat1716 4 года назад +1

    jI think they are fantastic product easy to fit we got them here in the ukj we called them a push fittings.

  • @Viper6-MotoVlogger
    @Viper6-MotoVlogger 4 года назад +5

    Looks like evo-pex really thought things through and designed a pretty good fitting. Well presented bro.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Yeah they really did, quite an impressive little system, sure hope they hold up to their name ;) thanks Viper6 ;)

  • @mpurecat4155
    @mpurecat4155 3 года назад +3

    They are good on new installs for sure, the fact that keep out dirt from the o-ring and have an upgraded seal and way to keep the o-ring protected while inserting is comforting.
    The downside to evopex is it is less readily available in Canada. Not sold at home depot at least in Canada, and that it can only work on pex.
    I’m not sure if is Canada wide that evopex isn’t approved because of the lesser water flow.
    for any installs or retrofits to old homes i would still recommend using regular sharkbite as it is more readily available. When dealing with retrofits it’s easier in some cases to leave some of the original copper pipe where it is. however i’ve had customers last minute tell me they want the difficult sections removed as well. it’s those last minute decisions that make me happy that the regular fittings are readily available.
    while I understand buying bulk is ideal and ordering evopex ahead of time can be a good idea, smaller contractor companies often prefer to operate on a buy only what is needed when it is needed basis as margins and liquidity are sometimes constrained.

  • @McCuneWindandSolar
    @McCuneWindandSolar 7 месяцев назад +1

    I know you were talking about flow but if you know you need half at a sink bath ect. you can run a larger pipe all the way there and then step down to the size needed so you don't have different flow restrictions. and only have it right at the area were the water is used. I have ran 3/4 though out my house and then to half to sink tub toilet ect I have noticed on a few fittings that they have small drips of water so they are all going to get replaced. Good thing I Have access to all fittings that are behind walls since I put access panels justin case I need to fix anything.

  • @jasonsoo2030
    @jasonsoo2030 2 года назад

    can use for Stainless steel pipe?

  • @youraninee8968
    @youraninee8968 3 года назад +3

    If they are considerably cheaper I’ll use the with the negatives!

  • @gladiatorgaminginfo5053
    @gladiatorgaminginfo5053 3 года назад +1

    I have shark bite brass fittings and I have to replace them all mostly on the cold side what’s interesting to me is there rotting out they have green around them and are slightly starting to drip. I think it may be better off going with the uponor pex fittings but idk. Any recommendations let me know

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      How long have you had them?

    • @gladiatorgaminginfo5053
      @gladiatorgaminginfo5053 3 года назад +1

      Got2Learn not long maybe 5-7 max. I mean the fittings shouldn’t be turning green on the ends and starting to leak.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +1

      What kind of water do you have? If you have super hard water, this will happen with any type of connection.

  • @Kainosktisis
    @Kainosktisis 4 года назад +5

    As with most reasons for what type of fitting I or you might use, cost will be the biggest factor, not being able to reuse a fitting would greatly discourage me and as you said making changes is a part of the process, yes copper fittings are cheap but who wants to desweat and rework, takes to much time. Brass is a tried and true material, I've seen a lot of messed up copper from bad water but brass holds up better over time, when brass fails it's usually the packing materials or washers that fail not the brass that's I'm would be more worried about the o-ring, wonder how many brass fittings could have been fixed with a 10 cent washer or 6"'s of stem packing thread...🙄 Steel fittings not so sure about over time? Rough surfaces on pex is easily fixed with a fine sanding (and I mean fine) around the pipe, not lengthwise and a little (and I mean a little) teflon dope or plumbing grease before you set the fitting, it helps to lubricate the o-ring and seal the pipe, yes the pex system cost more than old school copper fittings but sweating in takes time and equipment, time savings make a good balance for the cost because you charge the same amount. If the flow is a problem with the Evo-pex just jump up the pipe size to 3/4 and your done with flow issues, can't stand taking a shower in a pittleing flow of water and that's why I usually remove the flow restrictor... 😉

  • @only1looney
    @only1looney 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for all the feedback, it helps in decision making, but I don't like the fact that they're not removable, even the conventional copper fittings can be removed, so they kinda don't make sense

  • @benchapter7648
    @benchapter7648 2 года назад +1

    Good explanation good job

  • @gteea
    @gteea 2 года назад +4

    sharkbite are so much like truck air line connectors.....they are rugged and survive extreme hot and cold. They will survive in water.

  • @BrianBoruish
    @BrianBoruish 4 года назад +1

    Great video, Thanks. Short, sweet and to the point.

  • @futuregamer5791
    @futuregamer5791 3 месяца назад

    I just used evo pex today for the first time. I've never recommended using any kind of shark fittings previously and have actually warned against using them anytime other than emergencies. I pride myself on my copper skills and i always prefer solid rigid copper pipe over anything else. But! Ive got to say that when you need to re plumb in a bathroom in a mobile home with single digit temps and you don't want to break the bank and you also need something that is less likely to bust when frozen ive got to say ive come to appreciate this product and how fast I can delete old pipes and install new supply lines. Especially where soldering is not so much of an option. Considering no special tools are needed this may be my new go to.

  • @robertobakero8865
    @robertobakero8865 3 года назад +3

    A flow reduction in the fittings compared to the pipe in this case is nominal. The flow restriction(friction) of a 90 degree elbow is equal to the flow of about 5 feet of pipe for a normal full flow fitting, so for these elbows maybe more like 10 feet of pipe, not a big deal. If one or two of these elbows cut your flow too much then you probably needed a larger pipe to begin with. To prevent cold or hot spikes in the shower always make the shower the priority position when installing a tee .

    • @i1uvpreppyxo887
      @i1uvpreppyxo887 2 года назад

      By priority position do you mean make the shower the straight ahead position and the other position the 90 degree turn?

    • @robertobakero8865
      @robertobakero8865 2 года назад +1

      @@i1uvpreppyxo887 yes, the shower should be with less restriction to flow, so straight thru the tee would give priority if the feed is connected to the straight thru leg or if the feed line is connected to the intersecting leg of the tee the flow will be evenly split if two fixtures are on at the same time. The shower should always have the straight thru flow for hot and cold b/c it's a fixture where temp and flow are the most apparent.

    • @i1uvpreppyxo887
      @i1uvpreppyxo887 2 года назад

      @@robertobakero8865 thanks. I didn’t know that.

  • @ip5232
    @ip5232 3 года назад +1

    MI personal opinion, I like to use shark bite fittings BUT will only use them on copper, I know its ok to uae it on PVC or PEX But due to the flexibility of the plastic I dont trust them on thoae pipes, on copper? Its great and secure!

  • @lordgarth1
    @lordgarth1 3 года назад +7

    If I was working with pex I’m not sure the negatives of these are worth it. Why not just use uponor? Better flow, sealing and super easy to use.

    • @williamkauffman8898
      @williamkauffman8898 2 года назад

      What is uponor?

    • @juancastillo5078
      @juancastillo5078 2 года назад

      @@williamkauffman8898 It's a brand of expandable pipe. It's the only one I've really seen but I'm sure there are other kinds. Its the best imo.

    • @billsmith9249
      @billsmith9249 2 года назад

      @wackoguywatch AND they have a higher freezing/bursting threshold!!! Great to know if in a northern climate

  • @lequang2296
    @lequang2296 4 года назад +1

    Crystal clear
    Like clip
    Thank You

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Thanks you so much, please share if you can :)

  • @1973noxqses
    @1973noxqses 2 года назад +2

    The brass can be taken off. It works with different pipe types. Installing them takes less force. And less of a flow problem. Brass is the clear winner for me

  • @aroncarvajal7080
    @aroncarvajal7080 3 года назад +3

    Take this from a guy that has used them they are great for a quick fix easy to use and last a long time if use properly.

  • @trevorkolmatycki4042
    @trevorkolmatycki4042 3 месяца назад +1

    If for some reason there is no way to fit a pex A or B fitting tool in to make the connection in a tight spot, then a slip on is a godsend.
    Otherwise, given a choice, I would go with PexA and expansion fittings…. Though there are some situations where Pex B is necessary like if you have to put fittings back to back… pexA cannot do that.

  • @carver4894
    @carver4894 3 года назад +2

    I have a big problem with Flow Restriction it, needs to be addressed. I would like someone to address the durability of the plastic making of the fitting. Is the plastic material brittle under stress and how well will it perform with repeated wide temperature swings both with what it's carrying and ambient temperatures?

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      Plastic only becomes brittle if left in the sunlight, or else, on any other part of a normal plumbing system they are fine.

  • @SilentServiceCode
    @SilentServiceCode 3 года назад +2

    Sounds like a non starter if they don't interface with copper (the only thing I'd use them for) and are non removable, and are enormous.

  • @kddd1863
    @kddd1863 3 года назад +5

    Most of people are saying it’s costly , this product is worth and cost Saving for a guy like me who does not know any things about plumbing works and I did shower pipe change successfully with zero fees of plumbers , yes most of traditional plumbers whom were in the job for 20 years , will not use it , because they had solidarity experience, but guy like me , it is wonderful product to get red of plumbers highly fees

    • @mtadams2009
      @mtadams2009 3 года назад +2

      I am in the same place. If I pay a little more for hardware but save hundreds in plumber labor cost its a home run for me. Also I prefer to do my own home repairs.

    • @brock8830
      @brock8830 3 года назад +1

      That's the thought until you flood your entire house, or burn it down, or even a little drip that won't be noticed until it's rotted your floors and you start growing black mold in your walls. If you can't afford a plumber you sure as hell can't afford the damage you are flirting with. Just remember often times cheap is expensive.

    • @NadeemAhmed-nv2br
      @NadeemAhmed-nv2br 2 года назад

      @@brock8830 you can check for leaks, it's not that hard. Plumbing isn't rocket science either and anyone competent enough can pick it up quick. I've only done piping 3 times and by the 3rs time, my works as good as a pro

    • @brock8830
      @brock8830 2 года назад

      @@NadeemAhmed-nv2br doing piping as you call it does not equate to actual plumbing. And I would love to see your work, that is as you put it "is as good as a pro"..... Because first of all if it was pro you would not be using shark bites.

    • @GeeTrieste
      @GeeTrieste 2 года назад

      Go with the regular sharkbite, these fittings are not as user-friendly

  • @ronwest7930
    @ronwest7930 3 года назад +1

    I've been watching videos on shark bite fittings and can see using them for hooking up PEX pipe that is easy to get to. Like in-floor, heating pipe hooked up to a manifold. that's above ground. I think copper is better for everything else and I think I can solder the fittings for a house I want to build. I picture people years from now looking at leaking Shark bite fittings and wondering why someone used them. My question is, can the Oring be replaced in the SB fitting?

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      O-rings are EPDM, no need to replace them.

    • @ronwest7930
      @ronwest7930 3 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn if the fitting leaks, years in the future?

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад +1

      They will eventually leak, that's for sure, but so will any other type of joint, why not question those?

    • @ronwest7930
      @ronwest7930 3 года назад +1

      @@Got2Learn You think a soldered copper fitting will eventually leak?

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 года назад

      I don't think, I know :)

  • @patcupolo9274
    @patcupolo9274 Год назад

    Big box store I use took all evo pex fitting out of stock, why? They only have reg. Shark bites

  • @jarrellk3
    @jarrellk3 2 года назад +2

    The evo fittings might be better to use for acidic well water situations like I have.

    • @ohger1
      @ohger1 Год назад +1

      Honestly, you should address the water's pH in any case. Put a calcite tank on line.

  • @Jon-gj3fe
    @Jon-gj3fe 3 года назад +8

    Volume and flow. That's so drastic I wouldn't use in my home I'd steer clear of.

    • @MrWaterbugdesign
      @MrWaterbugdesign 2 года назад

      Ever see the opening on most valves? Tiny. There was a time when I thought running 3/4" would increase flow...silly me.

  • @Ace-ls6yl
    @Ace-ls6yl 3 года назад +2

    Great video.
    I think the brass shark bites are the best and all we really need.
    I know now not to use them more than 4 times.
    Salut

  • @thomasstuart6861
    @thomasstuart6861 Год назад +1

    How do you thread a top pipe on a bathroom faucet when the pipes are in and the tiles are done.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  Год назад

      Gotta remove those tiles.

    • @thomasstuart6861
      @thomasstuart6861 Год назад

      @@Got2Learn Didn't. I cut the shower up pipe about 6" up then I final fit the sharkbite to the screw thread on top of the faucet. I put a union pipe in 6" up with just enough clearance and then slide it half on, half off on the junction pipe, cooled the sharkbite and soldered in the union. I never want to use sharkbites again. Old houses have pipes the don't fit in straight and you have to hope the cocked pipe isn't a cause for a soon to be leak once getting the new tiles on.

  • @86FxBdyCpe
    @86FxBdyCpe 2 года назад +1

    thank you.

  • @robertweekes5783
    @robertweekes5783 2 года назад +2

    The trick to remove a sharkbite - push the teeth in really hard with the orange clip, and *push the pipe in* hard simultaneously. Then give the pipe a good tug while holding the clip in

    • @walterbrunswick
      @walterbrunswick Год назад

      @wackoguywatch squirt some silicone lubricant into the fitting beforehand (DuPont makes this in pressurized cans)

  • @joedugas9462
    @joedugas9462 4 года назад +26

    I only use S-B when I have to....a transition or in a spot where I cant get a torch or a pro-press in ......I'll use a 50 cent pex fitting and crimp it. 12 bucks for a lousy 1/2inch coupling is not worth any of it

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      ;)

    • @nicktheplumber241
      @nicktheplumber241 4 года назад +2

      My company has a strict no SB policy. The only exception is when there is no other option, like doing quest pipe repairs(replacing part with pex) since it’s so hard to find fittings.

    • @SharkBitePlumbing
      @SharkBitePlumbing 4 года назад +4

      We like to make any part of your job a little easier. Thanks for using SharkBite for transitions and in tight spots!

    • @chadneil4763
      @chadneil4763 4 года назад +1

      I can’t help but wonder how much the torch kit or propress tool cost?

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +1

      ProPress is about 2500$ US lol.

  • @rossdupuis4840
    @rossdupuis4840 Год назад +1

    You answered all my questions. The only thing that I don't like about Evo is that it's not reusable.

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 3 года назад +2

    Considering the flow, probably better to use 3/4" in place of 1/2" ..

  • @nelsonechevarria7009
    @nelsonechevarria7009 4 года назад +3

    SharkBite needs to get rid of those sharp turns on their elbows because that will definitely affect water flow.I would use regular SharkBite fittings as a temporary fix but those evo whatevers I would not even consider.

    • @SharkBitePlumbing
      @SharkBitePlumbing 4 года назад +2

      Thanks for your feedback, Nelson! Have you seen our 45° elbows? That should help eliminate the sharp turns you mentioned: bit.ly/2WTZecF.

  • @332sjbender
    @332sjbender 3 года назад +1

    How much would it be to just upsize the piping to make up for the smaller diameter connection? Just as in a commercial residential setting we are made to upsize all the wiring to allow for tenant abuse (14 awg to 12 awg on a 15 amp circuit), the flow could be mitigated by pumping 3/4" instead of 1/2". I personally like these fittings as in some places you cannot get the crimper into the area, and allows for "weekend plumbers" to get the job done.

    • @woodstock4062
      @woodstock4062 3 года назад

      They make angle crimpers that you just pull back you don't have to open up real big like a set of bolt cutters and they seem to get in just about every place that I need to get into and I do mostly repair so I have to get in some really tight spots

  • @concernedcivilcitizen8780
    @concernedcivilcitizen8780 3 года назад +1

    Flow resistance across the project could become a problem. I really don't appreciate the lack of re usability, not so much because I reuse the a lot but rather when a redo is necessary, it can be costly in time and materials; sometimes requiring a full new run... Another dislike is the amount of force needed to affix the fitting. 55 lbs. across the day and in tight spaces can ad up. In addition, there are time on variable projects where PEX is not optimal, having a bunch of these on your truck could mean another trip to the parts house... Great vid.

  • @AJDIYNetwork
    @AJDIYNetwork 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video. I prefer using outside of the wall. Not behind the wall

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      ;)

    • @SharkBitePlumbing
      @SharkBitePlumbing 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for using SharkBite! We’re here for you and your application of choice!

  • @amarmot3635
    @amarmot3635 4 года назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @robertlunsford1350
    @robertlunsford1350 3 года назад +2

    I have been using similar connectors from other vendors in commercial automation for years so I would not have any issue using them in a residential plumbing build. From the looks they are stainless and plastic so should withstand corrosion well. I might move up a size of tubing to make up for the internal restriction on the fittings though.

  • @ACoustaDC
    @ACoustaDC 3 года назад +10

    Without being removable they lose a lot of the advantages, like capping off a pipe while roughing in.

    • @walterbrunswick
      @walterbrunswick Год назад

      John Guest for capping and removing...
      Sharkbites are more of a permanent solution, with an added benefit of having the option to remove if need be

  • @mr.p4293
    @mr.p4293 3 года назад +2

    Awesome 👌🏻

  • @corin164
    @corin164 Год назад +1

    I have two issues with the EvoPex. They are the permanency and flow rate.

  • @arturgukasi8730
    @arturgukasi8730 4 года назад +3

    awesome video

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it Artur, thanks for watching man ;)

  • @lonnieclemens8028
    @lonnieclemens8028 2 месяца назад +2

    I won't use the Evopex fittings. I've seldom have a problem with the sharkbite fittings. The sharkbites are also removable.

  • @mts7274
    @mts7274 Год назад +1

    4:16 ...for copper pipes, aren't you supposed to remove that white plastic 'stiffener' inside the Sharkbite fitting? I've seen some plumbers mentioning that in some videos.

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  Год назад

      Sharkbite says it can damage the small teeth in the fitting.

  • @bipedalbob
    @bipedalbob Год назад +1

    I doubt I'd ever use the evo-pex, it seems like a step backwards. If they can't be taken off or reused why use them at all, just use the copper crimp rings, which are probably cheaper.
    You didn't mention cost compared to sharkbite.
    Well at least they've left an opening for a 3rd creation that may be better than both, unless someone else does it first.

  • @ZIBO2830
    @ZIBO2830 4 года назад +2

    From all PEX fittings I prefer Uponor expansion pex, diameter is bigger and you can re-use brass fittings and pex-a more flexible

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  4 года назад +2

      Uponor is the best, hands down.

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 3 года назад

      I only use QuestPex with brass modern pex fittings with oetiker cinch rings

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 3 года назад

      Quest has bigger inside diameter than Uponor

    • @ZIBO2830
      @ZIBO2830 3 года назад

      BigG LilWayne you mean polybutylene pipe?

    • @bigglilwayne7050
      @bigglilwayne7050 3 года назад

      @@ZIBO2830
      The grandfather of pex, the good grey pipe

  • @sharkysmachine9248
    @sharkysmachine9248 3 года назад +3

    Restricting flow, having to cut coupling out and restricted to PEX only. I'll stick to my brass ones!

  • @dochollidaytexasmgtow1248
    @dochollidaytexasmgtow1248 3 года назад +3

    Have had Evo fail 38% of time, and the last freeze..2021.. they failed astoundingly behind maintenance personnel. I use crimp but occasionally sharkbite. Evo is 🗑. Crimp or sweat is solid

  • @workingshlub8861
    @workingshlub8861 2 года назад +1

    ill use a sharkbite when you cant get a torch or press tool in there.....i work at apartment complexes mostly built early 70s where the the type M is failing and its pinhole leaks everywhere....we are slowly doing complete repipes

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 Год назад

    If they only fit PEX, what's the advantage? I can see guys who can't sweat copper using them (I only use SBs in an emergency), but if just on PEX, use an expander and do it right without worrying about an O-ring in 25 years.

  • @gweedomurray9923
    @gweedomurray9923 3 месяца назад

    So now to preserve a flow rate I need to go from 1/2 piping to a 3/4 pipe (PEX).

    • @Got2Learn
      @Got2Learn  3 месяца назад +1

      Yup

    • @gweedomurray9923
      @gweedomurray9923 3 месяца назад

      @@Got2Learn ~ With PEX being cheaper than Copper I can work with that.

  • @Pete.Ty1
    @Pete.Ty1 4 года назад +1

    👍

  • @mattman3495
    @mattman3495 3 года назад +6

    If they're only for Pex you might as well use a pex fitting and save the money.

  • @sherrimorana4676
    @sherrimorana4676 3 года назад +2

    4:34 so satisfying 😍 lol

  • @DragonBuilds
    @DragonBuilds 3 года назад +11

    I never use Shartbite unless there is no other option. I guess it is OK for DIYers to use in exposed locations only.

  • @rcsontag
    @rcsontag 2 года назад

    "push to connect on the EvoPex fitting is a pipe dream. PEX-a and these fittings do not go together without a hell of a lot of force.

  • @ajmedeiros77
    @ajmedeiros77 2 года назад +1

    Think the smaller diameter is a concern especially showers

  • @woodstock4062
    @woodstock4062 3 года назад +1

    Flow is very important considering already PEX has a low flow rate in the first place three-quarter pex equals the same flow as half inch copper why do people do not upsize on their packs and have this very problem. A lot of people get their mind blown by the equation for volume it takes 8.2 1 inch pipes to equal the volume of a 2 inch pipe

    • @osmanvincent1975
      @osmanvincent1975 2 года назад

      Beg to differ. The area of 2" pipe is 1 *1* pi = pi
      The area of four half inch pipes is 4 * (1/2) * (1/2) * pi = pi
      Actually the ID of type L one inch pipe is slightly larger than 1" at 1.025
      The ID of type L of two inch pipe is slightly under 2" at 1.985
      In terms of flow rate, all the one inch pipe would have much higher friction, and lower flow depending on volume.

    • @osmanvincent1975
      @osmanvincent1975 2 года назад

      My error, second line, should be four one inch pipes,