Elden Ring - Would FLAILS Work As... Wait. Do They Even Work IRL?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2022
- I forgot to add the picture of Family Heads! Hee it is if you'd like a look
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Flails are a type of Weapon in Elden Ring. Flails have long reach and can inflict single powerful strikes against hostile characters, but they are rather slow.
Flails can be modified by a number of Ashes of War to change their Skills or Damage Type, so play around with them and see what you like as you acquire more.
The default Art of War on most flails, Spinning Chain, is not available as a separate Ash of War as of Patch 1.03. This means you cannot change the damage affinity of these flails without overwriting Spinning Chain.
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Elden Ring dlc is an action role-playing game developed by FromSoftware and published by Bandai Namco Entertainment. The game was directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki and made in collaboration with fantasy novelist George R. R. Martin, who provided material for the game's setting. It was released for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, and Xbox Series X/S on February 25, 2022.
Elden Ring is presented through a third-person perspective, with players freely roaming its interactive open world. Gameplay elements include combat featuring several types of weapons and magic spells, horseback riding, summons, and crafting. Elden Ring received critical acclaim, with praise for its open world gameplay, fantasy setting, and evolution of the Souls formula. The game sold more than 13.4 million copies worldwide within five weeks of its release.
Gameplay
Elden Ring is an action role-playing game played in a third-person perspective with gameplay focusing on combat and exploration; it features elements similar to those found in other games developed by FromSoftware, such as the Souls series, Bloodborne, and Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. Director Hidetaka Miyazaki explained that players start with a linear opening but eventually progress to freely explore the Lands Between, including its six main areas, as well as castles, fortresses, and catacombs scattered throughout the open world map. These main areas are explorable using the character's mount as the main mode of transport, although a fast travel system is an available option. Throughout the game, players encounter non-player characters (NPCs) and enemies alike, including the demigods who rule each main area and serve as the game's main bosses.
Combat in Elden Ring relies heavily on character-building elements found in previous Souls games and related intellectual properties, such as calculated and close-ranged melee-based combat with the use of skills, magic abilities, as well as blocking and dodging mechanics. Elden Ring introduces mounted combat and a stealth system, the latter being a core gameplay element from Sekiro; these features are expected to encourage players in strategizing their combat approach with each unique enemy they encounter. The game makes use of a player character stamina bar after being absent from Sekiro, although its overall influence over combat was reduced compared to previous FromSoftware games that utilized it. Unlike in Sekiro, resurrection mechanics after in-game death are not available; however, some elements were added to ensure players' progression within the game.
Miyazaki stated that the customization in Elden Ring would be richer, as players are able to discover different skills through their exploration of the map instead of unlocking skill trees as in Sekiro and differing from the pre-fixed weapon skills of FromSoftware's previous games. These skills are interchangeable with a large variety of weapons which, alongside equipment, magic abilities, and items players can craft using materials found within the world, can be used to customize the player character.The game also features summoning mechanics, where players can summon a large variety of collectible spirits hidden throughout the game's world map, including previously defeated enemies, as allies to assist them in battle. Similar to the Souls series, the game's multiplayer allows other players to be summoned for cooperative play.
Synopsis
Premise
Elden Ring takes place in the Lands Between, sometime after the destruction of the titular Elden Ring and the scattering of its shards, the Great Runes. Once graced by the Ring and the Erdtree which symbolizes its presence, the realm is now ruled over by the demigod offspring of Queen Marika the Eternal, each possessing a shard of the Ring that corrupts and taints them with power. As Tarnished - exiles from the Lands Between who
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In elden ring, flails are pretty clumsy weapons on foot, but function much better on horseback. They also have similar shield bypassing capabilities as shotels. So all in all, I think they did surprisingly good work depicting flails realistically.
To me it seems that you would get the most benefit from one handed flails on horseback, where the hand shock of using a blunt force weapon would otherwise be even worse. So if your opponent is too well armored for saber, then a flail might be an interesting option.
I believe this is also the first time they have made the Flail in their games, so they probably didn't have to worry about things people preferred beforehand.
The problem with elden ring flails is that they are extremely small, and the moveset is kind of meh
@@albusnightspring8057 yeah. With most weapons the moveset includes a forward step on strike to increase range. Flails lack that, so their effective reach ends up being similar to a dagger. And the moveset doesn't use the momentum of previous strike to set up the next one. Axes and hammers have the same issue.
Flails do not bypass shields.
I imagine flails would work better in a coliseum rather than a battlefield
Probably. They'd definitely be able to put on a show.
Well, they did have the ability to wrap around defences like shields and parries, and hit the person behind
@@dragon12234 other weapons do that better like the falx
@@ultimatumdweebium2965 They were also large and two-handed. There's the Shotel, but it sacrifises reach
@@dragon12234 there are a lot of falx's that were one handed, flails basically have no reason to be used in combat, they are just for show even if they can somewhat hurt it's not that good, you'd be better off using a stick than a flail, put a sharp head made of iron on the stick and ya have a spear, if you're good at using it ya can get around the shield
The kusari gama was used less like a flail and more so to disarm the opponent in a duel
Yup. Still a weight on a chain, though.
I always had my doubts about flails since Return of the King, the Witch King looked awkward as hell using it 🤣
Yeah... That one was intentionally ridonk
@@MarcusVance yup, as the behind the scenes stuff laid out, very intentionally and many of the people there thought so too...and then they made it even bigger to go over the top enough that it wouldn't look like a mistake but like you were watching something supernatural happening.
If it was less big, it would look like they just didn't know how big a flail was supposed to be, but they went that big to try and give the audience the same feeling of horrified "this cannot be happening" disbelief that Eowin was feeling looking at it....which only worked because of how grounded the rest of the weapons and armor in the movies were.
That kind of "cross the line/jump the shark twice" thing only really works when they've kept everything else grounded enough that you buy into physics being basically the same because it's about getting the audience to be sympathizing with the characters _in universe_ thinking "that shouldn't be physically possible!”
Hilarious but awesome.
I personally love flails for some reason,the idea people are swinging around a piece of metal on a chain/rope is neat
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"So you could be walking around with something this long in your pocket."
Pause when he realizes how that sounds sent my sides into orbit.
Ya missed one! The "family heads" it's a flail with multiple heads depicting the faces of a family, all with their own rope connecting them to the handle
The heads can be used to summon evil spirits that attack your enemy, in doing so the heads float up into a sorta trident like shape(?) And fire the spirits from their mouthes.
Also the head representing the child in a family has a shorter rope than the other heads with the mother being ever so slightly shorter then the fathers
I talk about it but forgot to add the picture
@@MarcusVance I must've zoned out for a bit! sorry!
The flail has two heads for children and one for the mother
Nah he mentioned it
2:03 Plus the leather belt gives you +4str and +4stam
And the level requirement is only 18.
The Bastard Star is one of the best looking weapons in the game. Very cool. Thanks for the Elden content.
sadly it has a very situational AoW, even less than the wing version. slow startup and risk of not even hitting
Fun fact, there's actually a Kusari Gama in Elden Ring but it's unusable by the player, only available to the one mob that wields it.
What people don't realise is that a guy wildly swinging around a spikey ball on a chain is terrifying, especially considering that flails are really awkward to block.
Conq be like
It's a bit of a mixed bag. In open field comment, your standard length spear wouldn't have much worry just keeping distance and jabbing high or low. In close quarters, a flail would never get the chance to build that sort of momentum consistently.
Its best use case would be as a sidearm to bust up armored opponents in a scrap rather than as a primary or dueling weapon if you've got the choice. Full plate is restrictive and could allow distance to be closed easily, and relying on a shield will be masochistic against a flail. It's a very destructive and dangerous weapon for good reason, staying out of its way will be the challenge for both a close combatant and the wielder.
This actually does make some sense with Marcus's idea of it being a peasant's weapon. While it would require more skill to wield without harming yourself and couldn't be used in formation, it _could_ find use as an easily produced weapon capable of felling knights of a disliked lord in a loose skirmish, especially when you get the jump on them with a concealed weapon.
@@tracyblanchard7663 while it could easily be manufactured by peasants, I could also see a knight wielding it on battlefield, specifically on horseback. It is difficult to block, it delivers blunt force trauma even through armor, it doesn't get stuck in enemies like a blade would and it doesn't shock your hand or compromise your balance like mace in similar situation would. You'd probably still use Lance as the primary weapon, but on horseback it could be a valuable sidearm.
On foot the awkwardness of it would probably outweigh the benefits though.
@@PiiskaJesusFreak Oh yeah, the horseback utility would be considerable as long as you don't accidentally hit your own horse's flank. Definitely a cavalry-to-ground weapon rather than a rider-to-rider.
I believe its concealment potential is especially considerable for a peasant, on the other hand. Just keep a sack with the blunt weight in it and the handle out. That way it appears to be a simple farm tool that you can use at a moment's notice. And as long as a blow connects in such a first strike scenario, you wouldn't even need to worry about a missed strike returning.
The flail might be a good cavalry weapon 'cause you can use the momentum of the horse like a mace but with less hand shock and easier to retrieve unless it's spiked
Yup! I think I mentioned that. Or meant to mention that...
@@MarcusVance you did. Interestingly, flails in elden ring are exactly like this. Their base moveset is really awkward, but they work well from horseback and the only enemies actively using them are cavalry.
Bonk approved! I still love these videos, and the extra facts are always appreciated!
In game flail actually cost a lot of dexterity for how small they are wich make sense with idea that you need a lot of skill
Also, flails are a nice addition to have since you have an easy strike weapon for dex bois, specially useful for Crystal dudes
Flails barely function in Elden Ring thanks to their poor moveset and bad poise damage. Also the Nightrider Flail does have the heads attached to separate chains attached to the main chain and they do tangle together in game thanks to poor clipping. So that's also accurate to real life (albeit unintentionally).
They’re still useful in terms of having a bash damage weapon that scales off dex though, especially with the generally low strength requirement for them, and the ashes of war unique to them are really fun to use
I think the nunchuck is a stealth weapon meant to be easy to conceal that was most likely used just to knock your opponent unconscious if you were say taking a hostage or just weren't allowed to kill a target.
Careful or Shad will reply with an essay about how wrong you are
Iirc it was also a farmers tool for dehusking grains by beating it. Two handed flails were used for the same purpose in Europe
are you gunna do a series on the armor in Elden Ring? you might have to break it up but it's more content. you could also so the shields and the bows, just a thought :)
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That’s actually a really good idea
always love learning things from this channel
For multichained flails, there is the mangual as an example irl. It's got a decently sized handle to accommodate two handed use, and is swung in a similar manner to the montante.
Really enjoyed the historical and real world uses part of the video, would lo e to see you cover more things from history that have caught your interest
I actually really enjoy these mini history lessons. Keep up the great work. Love all your videos.
To be honest I really enjoyed the history lesson aspect. If you could more continue to subtly integrate that kind of information into your nerd content I'm sure your amazing chanel will continue to grow
Enjoyed the history lesson!
Would love more of it!
Id love to see you cover more historic topics like this in the future
Flails i feel would be effective irl in horseback vs footsoldier. Doing a clockwise vertical spin as you pass would easily break any persons stance when guarding with a shield. However if you would be against footsoldier with even basic spears you'd be in trouble unless it's a two-handed flail.
Really appreciate the wide-screen video
I personally think that the flail was made with the specific purpose to get around shields. Its easy to block a sword or mace with a shield, since its easy to predict where it will strike. But the flail would just rotate around the edge of it either hitting the guy whos blocking in the head or if he dodges, hits them on the arm thats holding the shield up.
I appreciate the history lesson, it made the video very interesting!
Informative and there was a bonk, 10/10
The chain link flail is used by giant monster dudes known as mad pumpkins heads so it makes sense they use it
Love this shit!
Keep it up, love weapons, love history.
Especially how weapons were relevant to different types of people.
That guy with a reforce club is like o god no
it lacks the stick, but according to my neighbor a bar of soap in a long sock was fairly popular during the troubles. Can't get arrested for carrying it around but reasonably good for murdering.
Would love to see some more from soft games when you finish elden ring, maybe a comparison of the coolest and least/most realistic weapons game to game.
I always figured that whether they actually struck flesh or not they'd at least trap and disarm your opponent and it does make for some intimidation
some flail designs are truly great at getting around shields, coming from someone who has done a fair bit of armored combat flails are a bit weird but are truly great at screwing with defensive fighters
Loved the histroy for this one
Its a very good histor lesson since I have been wondering if flails actually work besides looking flashy
Could you do a video on how well guilty gear weapons would work as actual weapons
I feel like fails would work really well riding on a horse where after hit you can almost reset after each hit but on the ground I think you run the risk of hitting yourself
I wonder if a pole flail would be useful in a pike formation like a flail on a pike pole could maybe be used to disrupt the enemies pike a lot
Damn I learned today, this is unforgivable
Im looking forward to the video on Scythes in Elden Ring
You don't need to wait long
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Wouldn’t it be funny as shit of flails we’re just their equivalent of mall ninja shit and we just never knew
Flails to my knowledge did exist, but largely as a farming tool to separate grain from husks. Given this there msy be cases of it's use as an improvised weapon like other tools
The Knight riders flail only has one chain, it does have 3 heads on it attached to a split though very high up on it though
flails seem like the weapon of a designed for smaller units or individuals fighters, possible because of its ability for concealment and it lack of any deep martial art, could be a result of them being designed for scouting parties. something ment to me hidden until they needed to pull it out. It feels like almost a silencer in a way, designed to take out unsuspecting targets get it done quick and fast with speed and intimidation
i mean imagine if you had all three componants seperated, the head, the leather strap and the handle. The leather strap is tied around your waist like a belt, the head is just an ornate medalion, and the handle is just a stick
i would actually love to hear more history lessons
Oh no he tricked me into a history lesson... actually I'd be down for just straight up history lessons.
Math teachers of course know everything about physics and magnets.
there is no category left to review not counting: lightbows, bows, greatbows, crossbows, balistae, torches, sacred seals and shileds even though he did a review on staffs
Note: he commented that he maybe review all bows in a video and a video for shields too
Flails are the medieval version of a snooker ball in a sock
Flails are agricultural tools, at least in the beginning. I can imagine a farmer putting some nails in it to defend itself. Besides that, you can wrap the tip at the base and make an actual stick with a weight at the end.
Fun fact: flails still used where I live, in some cases. You have to take much care to use it, you hit the dry grains until the bark breaks and you can separate from its inside.
I mean the flails in game would absolutely work as well as real life ones, the big question mark here is how effective could we really make a flail irl.
It is class of weapon that only is being used at it peak when the chain or rope is under tension, like when the ball is spinning. If you ever landed a hit with it though it would probably be the fight decider. At speed a flail head hitting say full plate armor would fold it like mace on roids.
Also flails could be less heavy as you wouldn’t have to worry as much about your weapon breaking as the force would be less compared to a mace so you wouldn’t necessarily need a strong handle
no i dont mind i love how you teach history :)
No, learning?
*Gahhhhhhhh...*
Slowly melts away in learning
There are guns today that are not the best but they can be easily folded to better be able to carry a larger weapon in a small package. If your a spear man you lost your spear what would take up less space/weight a short sword or flail? Now maybe just use a mace but with a mace you cannot get the length a chain would provide. Just my take.
I feel like Marcus Vance is the weapons equivalent as an arab math teacher on RUclips, he'll teach you more in 5 minutes than you'll learn in 20 reading a book
The most compelling argument I have heard for the actual combat use of flails is a youtuber(can't remember who) talked about a chinese weapon(not nunchucks) that worked kind of like a flail, but it was predominantly used on horseback to strike without suffering the impact tremors as you would with just a stick/mace.
I don't mind learning things.
They are for reaching and wrapping over shields. It would be a side arm and not a main armament.
The flails in Polan or "cep" were not exactly regular ball flails. Peasants used flails to FLAIL at wheat and whatnot, but their design was more of a long stick with another shorter stick attached by chain. Think two handed flail. Flails were prevelent as improvised weapons, but during larger insurections were replaced by war scythes (scythes with the blade turned up) as they were not exactly useful against any sort of armor or particularly deadly.
Check out the kisten (or kisteni) flail.
There are actually enemies with kusari gamas, they are the tiny enemies that also carry the pole shotels and pole saws
Should I assume that the pole saws are something other than what you use to trim tree branches with? I know tree trimming tools have proven to be effective weapons before, but a saw at the end of a 10' pole that telescopes out to almost 20' doesn't seem like it would work well
A shame you can't get them as a weapon
Can you cover some non-Astartes warhammer weapons? Eldar, necron, tyranid, ect.
I should...
Id love to see a video on the harlequin's kiss
more history pls
Turns out the real flails are just as fantastical.
You should do some devil may cry or ninja gaiden weapons they both have a large variety of weapons
You're the most important person in RUclips weapon space.
I don't know about that, but thanks
@@MarcusVance pretty high up there
I wonder if they were a ritual/duel weapon
Is a flail more effective than a kudarigma?
The flail seems to me to fall into this weird little niche of weapons that are only effective as long as they're rare enough that no-one you're going up against really knows how to counter them.
If you can beat your opponent while they're still trying to figure out how to counter it and are liable to make mistakes and not account for how you can make it wrap around their guard, you have an advantage, but if they've trained on how to fight against one and know the tricks you can do with it, suddenly you just lost a massive advantage.
To a lesser degree, I can say that using a highly curved sword against people who've only ever trained with and against straight swords can leave them fumbling around like novices trying to keep up with the different ways they can be used and even have their trained reflexes work against them as their practiced block fails to adjust for how a false-edge cut reaches around their guard.
Great points!
[in regards to the Bastard’s Stars] “You could theoretically make the same thing with magnets??”
But even the most intelligent of mankind have asked… Fuckin magnets, how do _they_ work??
Flails or fails
This could be a whole series, as flails may be fails as you say
I love being tricked into learning things!
You missed the 'Family Heads' flail!
What about a soap bar in a socket
I don't care what anyone else says, The Bastard Stars does low damage but it looks like a baby flail so it's my main weapon rn
U missed a flail called family heads btw. Basically its three little head made of stone or copper on a chain on a stone stick. Magicly made i guess
Nah he just forgot to put up the picture of them
well for what's it worth, the actual enemy in elden ring that uses the flail, uses it while holding it in two hands, while on the ground, on both feet. its a shame that the player cant use it the same way - in the same stance as the enemy does....
Here you go if you don't care about the history and other things 4:05
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Its moveset is great for Limgrave only unfortunately.
If you don't have any elden ring video to make but you want to continue those sort of vide I gess you could just do some other from soft game. May get repetitive with the dark Souls series but ye if you don't have something else... Beginning with bloodborn can make a change maybe.
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The recent discussions about whether flails and other flexible weapons are viable weapons or not is bizarre, and largely seems to revolve around arguments that amount to either strange conspiracy like theories, and poor understandings of science.
I just don't get why this ever came up as widespread as it has? Sure they're not as useful as other weapons in certain scenarios, but most all weapons tend to have such weaknesses and strengths in different situations. Doesn't make them not real.
The flail denier cope is real
It really is...
Asking for league of legends weapons try 3
Oh don’t mind me , i’m here just to see if here include all the flail in elden ring
Spoilers:
He did not , but the video is great nonetheless
Were they all in the "flail" class? Sometimes similar weapons are in the colossal class, or slightly adjacent one like hammers.
@@MarcusVance search elden ring family head flail
And it should appear
I did try send a link but it got removed for some reason
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It's there. He just forgot to add the visual.
Actually watch the video next time instead of skimming.
@@MW-qt9ts oh , ok i did not notice I thought he was still talking about that weapon
I can’t believe i just commented cringe
Damn it!
Bro, I am all about the history lessons. Elden Ring? More like Smellden Ring. Pffft.
Frick elden ring, all my homies hate elden eing