More Off Brand Type 1 Cassettes - Samsung / Goodmans / Schneider / Socimag

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  • @phantom62
    @phantom62 4 года назад +6

    In the mid 1970's I helped my dad build the cabinets for some Goodmans speakers. Our next door neighbour worked for them, when the factory was in Havant. So she got a little discount for us. She actually gave us a sales brochure for the Goodmans cassette deck too, but dad went for the Sansui sc737 which was made by Nakamichi as well. I still have it :) But my sister has the speakers lol.

  • @RetroCore
    @RetroCore 4 года назад +8

    I live when you do these off brand cassette videos.
    Back in the late 80s, a friend of mine actually had a Schneider stereo system. I remember being very jealous because it was huge, had twin tapes, CD and turntable. It had all the 80s graphics all over it too. No doubt it was total crap but it looked a billion times better than the Alba I had, lol 😢

  • @v-g-z3689
    @v-g-z3689 4 года назад +2

    Yes indeed it is called B-A-S-F, every letter pronounced individually, you were absolutely right Tony. Some people have funny ideas about spelling, they should be forced to always say the full name: Badische Anilin- und Sodafabrik :D
    And yes that Schneider is an AGFA, the "Made in Germany" printing does not indicate BASF, both brands had it on them, and at that time their tape manufacturing wasn´t yet thrown together. So yeah, AGFA. As expected, it performed very good. So from my far down the line hearing perspective, I would rate them as following:
    1: Schneider
    2: Socimag
    3: Goodmans
    4: Samsung
    Just a personal thought ;)

  • @chinnyvision
    @chinnyvision 4 года назад +9

    Schneider were quite a respected German brand. They sold the Amstrad CPC into the German market as the distributor. Amstrad still made the computers, but the branding was localised by Amstrad. In fact there are a set of jumpers inside original CPC's that let you select the branding for the startup screen. Amstrad and Schneider were the only ones ever used but there is also an option to have it say Sashio!

    • @wisteela
      @wisteela 4 года назад +1

      There's also a few other brands in the ROM.

    • @chinnyvision
      @chinnyvision 4 года назад +1

      @@wisteela Yes, Triumph, Sashio, Orion, ISP, Solovax and Awa. Only Schneider was ever used. I think they were hedging their bets and my guess is some of the brand owners had no idea the names were in the ROM. Certainly Sashio was probably a plan to sweet talk DSG to stock the machines if they were being difficult. "You can brand them as your own". But it never came to that. Orion were the people who manufactured for Amstrad (presumably this would have been to sell the machines in the Far East) and ISP was Onions European distribution arm.

    • @Imperious685
      @Imperious685 4 года назад

      @@chinnyvision AWA was used in Australia. I have one I got from a friend a few years ago. The Australian Brand AWA was eventually sold off to Mitsubishi and AWA tv's here in Australia were actually Mitsubishi made after late 80's.

  • @EZ647
    @EZ647 4 года назад +11

    Samsung = Saehan
    All Samsung cassettes are Saehan because they have a common property relationship.
    Samsung in your video was sold to us in the years 2002-2004 at very low prices. One of the last cassettes in electro stores.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 4 года назад +1

      I remember Samsung cassettes. I bought these at ShopRite back in the 1990’s.

    • @interstat2222
      @interstat2222 4 года назад +1

      Yes, Samsung VHS tapes were sold as Saehan in SKorea with the same branding intact.
      Nothing wrong with their product - average in many ways but dependable.
      Always thought SKC were a slightly more premium Korean media brand though.

  • @jamesdurber88
    @jamesdurber88 4 года назад +7

    WoW tony, the 12 speed! to many energy drinks poor tony is bouncing of the walls! but so am I wow wow what a tune - fine work!

  • @kiirunavaara
    @kiirunavaara 4 года назад +4

    The Schneider cassette has probably BASF LH-D tape, its combination of zebra pattern, colour and slightly convex surface are quite typical. There is also a Schneider Ferro S, same design but green instead of red stripes, which has what looks like the Agfa 619/819 or 649/949 tape. Schneider was one of the biggest manufacturers of cassette shells and parts of shells for others - that's why you will find what looks like "BASF hubs" inside this Ferro LN.
    The Goodmans has the Kolormagnetics ICM-style shell. And the Socimag has a Spanish shell, despite the missing IHE or Inverhouse markings in this example. No idea about its tape, but it does not look like any of the common Agfa or BASF types.

    • @Astralify
      @Astralify 2 года назад +1

      The semi transparent tape with this particular color in the Socimag tells me it's definitely RAKS tape, probably an ED-X. It performs like one as well, meaning really good.

  • @interstat2222
    @interstat2222 4 года назад

    8:47 It’s that 80s trend for speckled effect. Also seen in wallpaper and packaging design all through the mid 80s-mid 90s!!

  • @Musicradio77Network
    @Musicradio77Network 4 года назад +2

    In the US, there were other off-brand cassettes like Capitol and Columbia from the 1970’s that they made cassettes outside of their record labels.

  • @gazjones4763
    @gazjones4763 4 года назад +1

    This music is brilliant for the testing of tapes I think. It really does make a difference.

  • @TheAmazingSnarf
    @TheAmazingSnarf 4 года назад +3

    Thanks, Tony. this was fun and really informative. i have a cassette storage slide full of these type of off-brand cassettes (Dixon, Prism, etc) that i really didn't know what to do with. i think i'm going to record Drum & Bass on them now! (and yes, i'm over 50 and love love love DnB) again, many thanks.

  • @vinkoivomilicdiaz6932
    @vinkoivomilicdiaz6932 Год назад +1

    We remember the SQC. A classic.

  • @nickbitten6037
    @nickbitten6037 4 года назад +1

    Great video on brands/ tapes i had not come across before. Will keep an eye out when the charitu shops re- open. Keep up the informative work please.

    • @CassetteComeback
      @CassetteComeback  4 года назад

      Or, you could just buy them from me to show support for the channel 😆

    • @nickbitten6037
      @nickbitten6037 4 года назад +1

      @@CassetteComeback Fair point there. I love your channel and it is a big dose of nostalgia. Only elephant in the room is that i have been out of work for ages and the wife is keen to stop me buying too much. Ho hum as they say- roll on the better times. Stay safe and hope your business goes from strength to strengh.

  • @botondkovacs3253
    @botondkovacs3253 4 года назад +1

    Ever heard about congress cassettes? I found one of my father's old cassettes and it says congress on the shell and the case but the original ferric tape inside was replaced with a chrome tape around 1987. I've been trying to get my hands on one to learn more about them but I can't find any for sale.

    • @mrnmrn1
      @mrnmrn1 4 года назад

      Ha jól dereng, a Congress az ugyanúgy Polimer gyártmány mint pl. a Present, Top-Hole, Ideal, és a Magna-k egy része. Tehát kissé selejtes, leértékelt BASF szalagból Magyarországon összerakott kazetta.

  • @stevenholt1867
    @stevenholt1867 4 года назад +1

    I thought Goldstar is LG. What's the difference between Goodmans and Bush? Hub circularity is important where the leader tape joins onto the hub.

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 4 года назад

      Goodmans and Bush were both Alba Group (the company that makes Argos stuff) at that time.

  • @Konstantin_Terletskiy
    @Konstantin_Terletskiy 4 года назад

    As for SAEHAN shells, I have many cassettes branded for various companies, but actually made by SAEHAN. Back in the day in 1994 there was my favorite cassette koisk near Arbatskaya (blue line) metro station in Moscow, Russia. I bought from there totally six AKAI GX 90 Type II cassettes. Their shells are exactly as of this particular SAMSUNG. For one of these cassettes I still have the back part of the wrapper, which says explicitly that this is "highg-quality cobalt doped ferric". And that's right, the tape itself is really high quality, I used them on my old Soviet Radiotehnika 201 Deck, then on my KENWOOD Double Cassette deck I brought from the US in 1994, then on my three-header 1996 KENWOOD KX-7060S, then, when it broke, on 1988 Soviet-made RAPRI-102S I have today, and I like the tape quality of it. Several days ago I bought from Russian internet store three AKAI HX 90 Type I cassettes, which are in the same shells, also I have one BASF Ferro Extra I saying "Made in Korea" and also in the same shell (this one came from one of Russian internet auction resellers). These AKAI GX were much cheaper in 1994 then other type II tapes, so totally I bought six of them back in the day. AKAI HX claim to be "for demanding classical music sources"< and they are really good super ferrics, but I found out that as of my ears they require some negative bias to get best of it (relatively to TDK D, for example). I don't know really who made the tape for these AKAI, but as for GX Type IIs they smell similar to 1985 line Maxell cassettes. So, maybe AKAI GX and Maxell UDII have the same tape inside, but I am not sure. Maybe somebody knows, comments welcome.

  • @bob7872
    @bob7872 4 года назад

    I'm familiar with the Schneider brand, but for reel to reel. I never got a tape from them, but once I needed an empty reel, and the store had that brand, so I bought it (in the mid-80s).

  • @Ale.K7
    @Ale.K7 4 года назад

    Great video! I bought some Saehan made Samsung SQC back in the day, but without the "Extra high dynamic range" printed around the hubs (with both those plain hubs and the ones with squares, I also think the font was different). I liked them.

  • @interstat2222
    @interstat2222 4 года назад

    Goodmans blank media was (iirc) an exclusive to the catalogue shops in the UK in the mid 90s - early 00s.
    Just like Bush, WHSmith, Sky, BBC, Alba, MGM (Curry’s) Comet own brand they were from Strand Europe Ltd.
    I believe the VHS tapes were made right here in the UK. You’ll know who made the material in the audio tapes.

  • @Mouse2113
    @Mouse2113 4 года назад

    All of them sounded fantastic especially the Socimag. I have one of the Samaungs sealed in a job lot so I'll hold onto it

  • @RWL2012
    @RWL2012 4 года назад +1

    yesss, nice one on the Slynk :P Funnily enough you actually introduced me to these particular tracks, yep his second RUclips album seems to have gone up haha!
    They seem to be decent sounding Type 1s too :)

  • @luthiercremona
    @luthiercremona 4 года назад

    Thanks Tony for showing these cassettes!!!I agree with you, for me too the Goodmans Is the best performer , has velvety sound as the Samsung SQC but with More top clear, crispy end .It's the most balanced cassette of all of them IMHO.Samsung has velvety sound as well, nice sounding cassette.And the Schneider Ferro LN with "pasta" nice to récord late 70s rock músic on it.Socimag excellent but I found it a little bit on the dry side of sound but anyway an excellent performer
    as well.Thanks again Tony!!As always learning something new on each video.Regards!Rafael

  • @christianrottler
    @christianrottler 4 года назад +1

    I remember the Schneider CPC computers, too. Schneider also sold audio equipment under their name.

  • @hughjanus6975
    @hughjanus6975 2 года назад

    Now that's different music than I'm used to on this channel!

  • @ColdSphinX
    @ColdSphinX 4 года назад +1

    Regarding those who say "Basf" ... BASF is spelled B.A.S.F. as it is short for "Badischen Anilin- & Soda-Fabrik" (the founding name, also it got renamed some times since then. Now it's just "BASF SE").

  • @crashbandicoot4everr
    @crashbandicoot4everr 4 года назад +2

    Did anyone notice that the left roller on the Socimag cassette was struggling to turn? :)

  • @spirosfoufoutos6241
    @spirosfoufoutos6241 4 года назад

    I have actually grown fond of the tape hiss lately. It can be an authentic, just like film grain in photography.

  • @mariogambrelli
    @mariogambrelli 4 года назад

    Thank you for this fun video! I was just about to beg for a new video... :D

  • @josephfrye7342
    @josephfrye7342 4 года назад +1

    hmm i would be looking forward to getting Samsung cassette in ferric position some time but in saehan version.
    i should search up some scotch skc branded tapes. in chrome position though. and see how they sounded.

    • @josephfrye7342
      @josephfrye7342 4 года назад

      the korean branded cassette are awesome in ferric and chrome including metal type tapes.

  • @craignehring
    @craignehring 4 года назад

    This was fun, very nice review (as usual)

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 2 года назад

    Yet again so many great tapes i would have no time for based on looks how i wished i had known but at least now if i see any around i know what is worth picking up .

  • @christianrottler
    @christianrottler 4 года назад +3

    You pronounce it correctly: B - A - S - F. It's an acronym for "Badische Anilin und Soda Fabrik" since they were founded in Mannheim, Baden.

    • @christianrottler
      @christianrottler 4 года назад

      @@FBAV That's correct. They were founded in Mannheim, got a sweet deal and moved to Ludwigshafen.

    • @kiirunavaara
      @kiirunavaara 4 года назад +1

      @@FBAV Everyone in Germany pronounces the letters separately, B-A-S-F, including company representatives talking about their company. This is because the combination of the consonants S and F would be strange to pronounce for the German tongue. AGFA, in contrast, is also an acronym but easy to pronounce, so everyone says it as a word. In Sweden, many do pronounce Basf as a word, too, which always makes me shudder when I hear it :-)

    • @MatthewBrannigan
      @MatthewBrannigan 4 года назад

      The only time I've heard basf rather than B-A-S-F is from Americans, it sounds really strange to me. I guess many there are not that familiar with the brand, but this old American commercial says it correctly: ruclips.net/video/1qawGHfCmyg/видео.html

    • @erwintimmerman6466
      @erwintimmerman6466 4 года назад

      @@FBAV Yes, here in the Netherlands I've only heard it as Bas-F. But in other countries they probably pronounce it differently.

  • @PaulTaylor1
    @PaulTaylor1 4 года назад +1

    That Samsung looks a bit sus to me. Not only does it not have the Samsung logo on it (where the A is an upside-down V), but it says "optiomal" or something in the blurb...

  • @tvfreak7777
    @tvfreak7777 4 года назад

    Hello Tony, can you do on some day a distortion measurement with your audiotetser and compare these with regular brands ? Just record 1khz at 0dB and +4/+6 and see how much weaker the harmonics are. A real super ferric would show significant lower distortion at the same level.
    I did this a while ago with a TDK D and the sky you mentioned with the dark tape. The TDK was much better.
    I am just interested to see such measurement, no problem if you dont like to do it !

  • @GrubyTolek
    @GrubyTolek 2 года назад +3

    I recorded an album master onto a Samsung SQC90. It was honestly the best sounding tape I had around at the moment of mixing it (I only had a box of old tapes bought for 10 usd).

  • @Leontheagent
    @Leontheagent 4 года назад

    Hey Tony! What AKG headphones are you using? 🎧

  • @ralphreinhardt6020
    @ralphreinhardt6020 4 года назад +1

    Holy moly I didn't think I could like you anymore than I do. But now that I see you sticking up for thee off brands, you da man. It's true, off brand tapes do matter. LMAO another great video Tony.😀😀😀

  • @paper_panzer
    @paper_panzer 4 года назад

    There's a company here in the states calling themselves "Kingdom", one of their cassette names is the "Professional", another is the "Professional Premium." As near as I can tell they primarily supply religious organizations with blank tapes that can have sermons recorded onto them, and they charge an *ahem* kingly price for them, and you can only buy them in bulk. A couple of threads on TapeHeads saw a few users try to acquire review copies, but Kingdom responded with "we can only sell them at bulk and in bulk prices."
    Regardless, I don't know how they perform for music, but I did see a picture of the tape itself while ago somewhere- and it's nearly totally transparent, just a light brown tint to the tape. Even clearer than the Socimag there!

  • @contentattic331
    @contentattic331 4 года назад

    Awsome video tony

  • @CannondaleCAAD
    @CannondaleCAAD 4 года назад +1

    Those tapes look interesting!

  • @AndrewLittleboy1
    @AndrewLittleboy1 4 года назад

    Just before you said it I was shouting TDK AR, the ones with the blue pressure pads!

  • @danielc6925
    @danielc6925 4 года назад

    Great video, great idea !

  • @Fluteboy
    @Fluteboy 4 года назад +2

    Apart from those cheapo "Newave" midi systems, Schneider also did the very brave "Manhattan" system, which had a subwoofer contained in the main unit. The main speakers were flimsy and thin, and it certainly fooled many a visitor in Laskys!
    image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/PeachtreeandBennett/35/569135/H4390-L76527801.jpg

  • @Farmeraap
    @Farmeraap 4 года назад

    I'm fairly certain Schneider produced their own 1/4" open reel tape in the 1960's. Possibly longer.

    • @kiirunavaara
      @kiirunavaara 4 года назад

      They only made the reels. Schneider was a plastics producing company, making empty reels for Agfa, BASF and others, and later on also cassette shells.

  • @bletheringfool
    @bletheringfool Год назад +1

    I believe Goodmans and Alba are owned by Harvard International which is Chinese owned these days. For anyone curious, here's an old BASF advert from the UK: ruclips.net/video/gzr55Bvrt-g/видео.html&ab_channel=NinaPerez

  • @stonent
    @stonent 4 года назад

    The plastic slip inside the Samsung made it look like it was breathing.

  • @macelius
    @macelius 2 года назад

    Nice, a little jungle music :)

  • @senilyDeluxe
    @senilyDeluxe 4 года назад

    Lol Socimag high precision mechanism when the left pulley isn't even really turning!

    • @kiirunavaara
      @kiirunavaara 4 года назад

      Typical aging issue, the lubrication may have dried. Most times the rollers will start to spin again when you play the tape on both sides, because of the higher torque on the take up reel compared to the low back torque on the supply reel.

    • @CassetteComeback
      @CassetteComeback  4 года назад

      I usually FF/REW them before use. Didn't seem to affect performance.

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 4 года назад

    It is the old Samsung logo on the cassette it self.

  • @chevycaprice87
    @chevycaprice87 4 года назад +1

    I pronounce B-A-S-F as BASF. But also I pronounce O-R-W-O as ORVO and BMW as BMV.

    • @CassetteComeback
      @CassetteComeback  4 года назад +1

      And VW as Fah Vee? That's what I mean, different strokes for different folks...

    • @chevycaprice87
      @chevycaprice87 4 года назад

      @Cassette Comeback yes, as Folksvagen.

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan 4 года назад

    The name Goodmans in the US is primarily known for making noodles and pasta.

  • @Fluteboy
    @Fluteboy 4 года назад

    My first speakers were Goodmans. They were sealed boxes with almost no bass, and had LED's wired to their tweeters, possibly to drain excess power. Strong, loud treble would make them illuminate.
    www.njuskalo.hr/image-w920x690/zvucnici/goodmans-quartet-q45-slika-128565424.jpg

  • @artempriadko6974
    @artempriadko6974 4 года назад +1

    Try to record music on HiFi VHS! You’ll be amazed!

  • @michaelturner4457
    @michaelturner4457 4 года назад

    Goodmans became a house brand of Comet didn't it?

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 4 года назад +1

      It's a B&M brand now, used to be Argos (Alba group), not sure who the actual manufacturer of the B&M range is.

  • @johndurso4212
    @johndurso4212 4 года назад

    Nice video😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

  • @grizzlyaddams3606
    @grizzlyaddams3606 4 года назад

    "Stored correctly"? Care to elaborate? Maybe an entire video on how you store your cassettes?

    • @CassetteComeback
      @CassetteComeback  4 года назад +3

      Not really. Just store them the way your would store something you care about, i.e. not in a cold, damp basement or a boiling hot loft.

  • @Rompler_Rocco
    @Rompler_Rocco 4 года назад +2

    Samsung
    Saehan
    1993 Microsoft Word

  • @vichnyiburlaka3499
    @vichnyiburlaka3499 4 года назад +1

    i didn't know that Saul Goodman sold tapes )))

  • @ttheone3518
    @ttheone3518 4 года назад +3

    I spent 50$ on a sony walkman today. Works well they said...
    Auto reverse doesn’t even work properly, neither does the auto-stop

    • @UrOpinionsSucc
      @UrOpinionsSucc 4 года назад

      I spent $21 on a 90's sony walkman, it didn't work at first. All it needed was a new belt. It works well now! Best purchase i've made. Didn't buy any belts as i've got spare new ones.

    • @ttheone3518
      @ttheone3518 4 года назад

      @@UrOpinionsSucc it's not the belts that's the problem, it's the mechanism itself, which can take a lot of time to fix

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 4 года назад

    That Samsung tape has some serious hiss. Even me with my terrible hearing could hear it.

  • @ArturArocha
    @ArturArocha 4 года назад

    High Bias LIKE !!!

  • @KR1275
    @KR1275 4 года назад

    I only remember this Schneider www.pinterest.ch/pin/379498706104816860/. In Holland we could buy it at the cheapest hifi shops, because it was rubbish.

    • @kiirunavaara
      @kiirunavaara 4 года назад

      This was Schneider Rundfunkwerke, an electronics company, and this was also the one selling the Amstrad CPC in mainland Europe. The cassette in this video comes from Schneider Kuststoffe, a plastics manufacturer.

  • @ЮрийСелютин-у4с
    @ЮрийСелютин-у4с 4 года назад

    Корпус кассеты Samsung SQC-90, абсолютно такой же, как и у кассеты AKAI GX90

  • @BigKelvPark
    @BigKelvPark 4 года назад

    BASF is pronounced 'Baden Aniline and Soda Factory' OR B A S F (The German equivalent is the same) .

  • @walterdevos8752
    @walterdevos8752 4 года назад

    Maybe a bit off topic to this video, but anyway. I wonder where all the equipment to make these cassettes went. I can see what horror the Chinese are working with.. but is that really all that is left of this technology? What a shame.. :'( edit: I know about NAC.. they do a good job, but it looks more like handy-crafting to me and is a bit antiquated in the style department.

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela 4 года назад

    Nowt wrong with a bit of drum n bass

  • @AttilaTheHun333333
    @AttilaTheHun333333 4 года назад +1

    I remember Samsung being hot garbage in the 90‘s.

  • @MrMicrolin
    @MrMicrolin 4 года назад

    Your going to run out of tapes at some point

    • @CassetteComeback
      @CassetteComeback  4 года назад

      Indeed. I don't see my webstore lasting more than the next 12 months...

  • @francis8062
    @francis8062 4 года назад

    Samsungs are too shitty