It's good to have a summary like this from a source I can trust. "stable and backward compatible": not a phrase to glide past without emphasis. In today's job market where React (unstable and inconsistent) is 9 out of 10 jobs advertised but you never know if the behemoth project they use is based on 16, 18 or cutting edge, but you can be certain it's a mess.
Thanks for this video but more importantly keeping your courses up to date as everything constantly changes. I'll start diving into the course updates this weekend.
Angular got me started in typescript back in 2018 or so - but it was only an interview test where I implemented the app in angular as an experiment ( failed it ), but now enjoying actually learning TypeScript currently with Max's course. ( but I will no longer say yes to an interview test where I'm creating an app all day - F that )
I never understood the love/hate thing about a framework or a tool. Im a developer for more than 20 years now. And i witnessed many rise and fall of tools. And i can say that the best is the one able to pay you back with some decent money.
RXjs operators are very powerful stuff to handle any complex architecture/call dependency. Going without RXJS will make the developer to implement on their own which is very error prone.
An optional NgModule doesn't mean you can't use it. it simply means you have the choice to use it or not. The same concept applies to Optional Decorator, Zone.js, RxJS. for example, nowadays, you can use 'withFetch' to make HttpClient use fetch instead of XMLHttpRequest, future maybe you can use 'withSignal' or 'withRxJS' for HttpClient.
I have never seen anyone with details complete course on angular on RUclips, even you that keeps giving updates sir. Please can you help the community to bring something serious that will really help people ?
Detailed, high-quality courses require *great* effort and time to build and maintain, and you are asking for one for free. See the "conflict of interest" here? Don't get me wrong, I respect and appreciate those putting out free content with all my heart, and I make free tutorials myself (just not on YT). But you don't just take free courses for granted like that. Plus Udemy courses are not THAT expensive. Usually, just 10-20 dollars when on sale.
@@xucongzhan9151 I don't have any issue with your reply. Maybe you can help me point out a udemy course that builds a complete project based course on angular.
Max’s course was worth the $12 I paid. Would have been worth 3-4 times that honestly. Udemy sets the prices really high but has regular sales so if you can wait you can get the course for a really good price.
I started angular 2 years ago, and it seems little complicated. Should I learn RxJS ? and what is up with the latest versions ? Should I learn older things or start with the latest angular version ?
Thanks for the update! I wonder what's the big problem with the decorators? Is it just visually unpleasing or is there a real benefit of not using / having less decorators in the code?
I personally like them, but at the end of the day, TS decorators are not TC39 decorators. Some people also find them to clutter the component a bit too much.
Do you know a good course for Angular 18 (videos, books, training, udemy)? I have been looking but they are incomplete or doesn't have everything from Angular 18
Is that why there are constantly breaking changes between major version. So many that they come with a tool than runs over your codebase and tries to „migrate it“ which usually for our projects meant it fixed 80%, forgot 10% and managed to fuck up the rest. No idea where this statement is coming from but Angular causes the most issues at work. On our newer projects that no longer use Angular we have way less problems.
@@nymez6968 Usually, if you follow best practices, 90% of migration can be done automatically. For the remaining 10%, you can easily refer to the migration or breaking changes documentation. This won't make you lose control. However, if your application is very large and complex: 1. You need to write unit and end-to-end (E2E) tests. 2. Avoid adopting new technologies too early. For example, Angular Material currently does not use Signals at all. Google uses Angular for very complex applications, such as Google Ads. If you really want to excel with Angular, you need to deeply understand its source code. It is not as simple as learning Vue or React. Angular does not provide any tutorials or even documentation for how to use Angular in complex applications.
@@nymez6968 That sounds like a skill issue. You realize that major versions are for breaking changes, right? I've maintained a variety of projects in my career from small internal support apps to very large enterprise scale apps with millions of users and Angular 2+ is the easiest framework to keep up-to-date of any framework I've used. Other frameworks have advantages over Angular in other ways, but when it comes to updates, there isn't one easier than Angular. The reason they have migration scripts is because thousands of projects at Google run on the latest versions of Angular and they don't want to update them all manually. All of those internal apps at google are running on the latest RC versions before they're even released to the public. If the migration scripts don't work for you, you or your org has done something to screw with it in a way that I've seldom seen even when I was consultant and working on tons of Angular apps for different clients. Don't blame the framework for skill issues. It's dumb. Literally millions are using it successfully.
It seems like Angular is on the path of removing most decorators (I assume they'll keep ones like component and module for now). It's unfortunate because I like decorators.
In my daily work I maintain AngularJS 1, that's a large app with millions of users per month. Our new project apps use React, but I want to learn or transition to Angular 2, can you point me to blogs, videos or helpful info to transition from AngularJS 1 to Angular? Thank you!
the main problem with Angular Versions I guess it's when you need to work with more than one project, that have different versions ( 11 and 17 for example) you need every time reinstall needed version of nodeJS and cli ( or use nvm)
zone.js use for trigger dirty check onPush use for reduce the number of view for dirty check so the onPush is still needed. but Signal can detect which view is changed, so I think onPush will also be optional in future.
@@kumailn7662 Angular lives only because of Google. Angular 2 is completely different from angular 1 and angular 18 is different from angular 2 and still they are trying to implement the framework to be honest.. React is for massive scale but angular can quickly become a massive mess because it's by design..
@@ranjithkea so you just want to get flamed for this... lol. Inside of a video that is meant to grab Angular Fans. Imo, react is just ugly, end of story.
you don't have to care about the compiler. it work behind your code. it will use AI to optimize and rebuild your code. so you don't have to use useCallback or useMemo to manual optimize performance anymore. and you even no need to care / learn how the rendering work in future. focus back your business logic code.
No that would be in 6 months, as Angular uses a very clearly defined release schedule with 2 major versions each year. It's not that hard to find factual information from the Angular team.
Can you please make a video on how to deploy SSR implemented angular 18 website in a shared web hosting or in our system's IIS, please. Or does anyone have any ideas on this, please reply to it.
i love those decorator, i love those interface and implementation , :( why angular start coming closer to react, I don't like react with those stupid naming conventions hooks. Angular please don't do that. However you always a love and always will be Angular (love)
Hi Max , Your tutorials helping me a lot. I improve my skills with your tutorials day by day 🎉 . I hope to find my first software developer job soon. Every like and subscription is a support for me ☺️.
I'm a huge Angular fan, but I have to agree with you. Since NgModules aren't necessary anymore, the new svelte-like control flow, and signal implementation, Angular has come a long way. But the component authoring experience is still the most verbose/complex of any framework I'm aware of. If they solve that problem, I think it'll be right there with Svelte in my book. SvelteKit is criminally unrelated though. That would be my first choice to start a new project.
@@kylerjohnson988 i would say be careful starting large-scale apps with svelte. svelte is great, but the third-party libraries it has is still limited, compared to what you get with Angular, React and Vue.
2024 Angular is moving towards more being like JavaScript and less like JAVA. Good won't intimidate people immediately just by the looks of code Do away from class component and decirator
Mhmm, I dont think your statement makes any sense. Actually the only constant thing is change 😅 especially in the software world, or IT in general. Something you should already be used to if you work in it.
@@1306dk Change is your enemy , do you know why? It wastes your time, resource you have limited amount of. Have you thought why business likes stable environment? Because it does not waste resources. Software dev. is world run by tool sellers. They sell to those who can't recognize, that stability is their greatest friend and the seller's greatest enemy.
not agree. if you are only Font-Ender, you won't love Angular very much, because you have to learn additional knowledge and concepts. if you are only Back-Ender, you hate Font-end. if you are Full-stack (with multiple languages and frameworks), you might love Angular, because the additional knowledge and concepts are applicable everywhere.
new way syntax of viewchild is not working at all i tried to do sameway but not working see my error by the way NG0906: The computed2 is not an Angular component, make sure it has the `@Component` decorator. at assertComponentDef (core.mjs:10477:11) at createComponent (core.mjs:37402:16) at _NgbModalStack._createFromComponent (ng-bootstrap.mjs:9896:26) at _NgbModalStack._getContentRef (ng-bootstrap.mjs:9867:19) at _NgbModalStack.open (ng-bootstrap.mjs:9796:29) at _NgbModal.open (ng-bootstrap.mjs:10003:29)
It's good to have a summary like this from a source I can trust.
"stable and backward compatible": not a phrase to glide past without emphasis. In today's job market where React (unstable and inconsistent) is 9 out of 10 jobs advertised but you never know if the behemoth project they use is based on 16, 18 or cutting edge, but you can be certain it's a mess.
You mean Next.js? Because I'm pretty sure the last breaking change that react had was in 2022.
Bless you Max. You kickstarted my career 7-8 years ago.
Thank you for your dedication to updating these already amazing courses, Max! :)
Thanks for this video but more importantly keeping your courses up to date as everything constantly changes. I'll start diving into the course updates this weekend.
As always, you are on top, Max!
Thank you for such a quick response to important events.
I'm still maintaining AngularJS 1 applications . Still maintainable and working great after over a decade.
I feel for you
The good 'ol $scope days...
Lol, what? Time to migrate to Angular 2+.
Scope , root scope, isolated scop, emit broadcast
liar liar pants on fire 😂
Max is always Maximum..... uplifting many developer career like me..... god bless you
I have just joined your courses one angular 2024 and TS course and its awesome!
I learned angular from your video from angular 4 and now we reached v18. Time flies
Thank you max for the update and please continue doing this ur teaching is great
Thank you for the video.
Great to hear Max! It sounds like a good reason to do this course again.
Ty! U rock! 🕺🏻
My favourite instructor, thanks 👏🏽💯
Thank you so much!
Sieht so aus als warste im Urlaub 😎
Hoffe es war nice! ☀
Thanks alot i love using angular
Crazy how now, Angular is simpler than react, no hooks gotchas, no server components overhead and complexity, no re-rendering machine gun
Excellent explained.
Angular got me started in typescript back in 2018 or so - but it was only an interview test where I implemented the app in angular as an experiment ( failed it ), but now enjoying actually learning TypeScript currently with Max's course.
( but I will no longer say yes to an interview test where I'm creating an app all day - F that )
thanks buddy : =) to keep us updated
For me, it seems that Angular moves towards to be much more reactive, having some sort of "Kafka" message broker inside :)
And this is exciting!
Thank you.
I never understood the love/hate thing about a framework or a tool. Im a developer for more than 20 years now. And i witnessed many rise and fall of tools. And i can say that the best is the one able to pay you back with some decent money.
Excellent video
And here we are.. Using angular 13, 14 and 15 for our product :D
Angular 13 .. that is so last month. By next year this time we'll be on Angular 21.
With module bro use standalone components is more powerful
Max, the king of udemy.
Angular is so beautiful, can be a handful at times but so beautiful.
RXjs operators are very powerful stuff to handle any complex architecture/call dependency.
Going without RXJS will make the developer to implement on their own which is very error prone.
An optional NgModule doesn't mean you can't use it.
it simply means you have the choice to use it or not.
The same concept applies to Optional Decorator, Zone.js, RxJS.
for example, nowadays, you can use 'withFetch' to make HttpClient use fetch instead of XMLHttpRequest, future maybe you can use 'withSignal' or 'withRxJS' for HttpClient.
True, but it is overkill for the majority of situations.
Optional.... optional... optional...
I'm looking forward to change the project to zoneless in the future ...
i'm still maintain angularjs project :-)
Fkking Amazing !! I love it
That's a step in the right direction 😁
I have never seen anyone with details complete course on angular on RUclips, even you that keeps giving updates sir. Please can you help the community to bring something serious that will really help people ?
Detailed, high-quality courses require *great* effort and time to build and maintain, and you are asking for one for free. See the "conflict of interest" here? Don't get me wrong, I respect and appreciate those putting out free content with all my heart, and I make free tutorials myself (just not on YT). But you don't just take free courses for granted like that.
Plus Udemy courses are not THAT expensive. Usually, just 10-20 dollars when on sale.
@@xucongzhan9151 I don't have any issue with your reply. Maybe you can help me point out a udemy course that builds a complete course on angular.
@@xucongzhan9151 I don't have any issue with your reply. Maybe you can help me point out a udemy course that builds a complete project based course on angular.
Max’s course was worth the $12 I paid. Would have been worth 3-4 times that honestly. Udemy sets the prices really high but has regular sales so if you can wait you can get the course for a really good price.
I started angular 2 years ago, and it seems little complicated. Should I learn RxJS ? and what is up with the latest versions ? Should I learn older things or start with the latest angular version ?
Thanks for the update! I wonder what's the big problem with the decorators? Is it just visually unpleasing or is there a real benefit of not using / having less decorators in the code?
I personally like them, but at the end of the day, TS decorators are not TC39 decorators. Some people also find them to clutter the component a bit too much.
Like for the mug with react logo
Zoneless feature is still not stable. So I have no plan learning these versions until I get fully signal-wise, zoneless Angular.
We already went zoneless on our production apps lmao.. works perfectly.. screw "experimental"
Hi Max , We want a completely new revamped Angular course on Udemy ! Please make a new one without modifying older one !
Do you know a good course for Angular 18 (videos, books, training, udemy)? I have been looking but they are incomplete or doesn't have everything from Angular 18
Please make update on yours best for me course on Udemy of Angular. Thank you!
I totally agree with what you said "It's a super stable backward compatible framework".
Is that why there are constantly breaking changes between major version. So many that they come with a tool than runs over your codebase and tries to „migrate it“ which usually for our projects meant it fixed 80%, forgot 10% and managed to fuck up the rest. No idea where this statement is coming from but Angular causes the most issues at work. On our newer projects that no longer use Angular we have way less problems.
@@nymez6968 Usually, if you follow best practices, 90% of migration can be done automatically. For the remaining 10%, you can easily refer to the migration or breaking changes documentation. This won't make you lose control.
However, if your application is very large and complex:
1. You need to write unit and end-to-end (E2E) tests.
2. Avoid adopting new technologies too early. For example, Angular Material currently does not use Signals at all.
Google uses Angular for very complex applications, such as Google Ads. If you really want to excel with Angular, you need to deeply understand its source code. It is not as simple as learning Vue or React. Angular does not provide any tutorials or even documentation for how to use Angular in complex applications.
@@nymez6968 That sounds like a skill issue. You realize that major versions are for breaking changes, right? I've maintained a variety of projects in my career from small internal support apps to very large enterprise scale apps with millions of users and Angular 2+ is the easiest framework to keep up-to-date of any framework I've used. Other frameworks have advantages over Angular in other ways, but when it comes to updates, there isn't one easier than Angular. The reason they have migration scripts is because thousands of projects at Google run on the latest versions of Angular and they don't want to update them all manually. All of those internal apps at google are running on the latest RC versions before they're even released to the public. If the migration scripts don't work for you, you or your org has done something to screw with it in a way that I've seldom seen even when I was consultant and working on tons of Angular apps for different clients. Don't blame the framework for skill issues. It's dumb. Literally millions are using it successfully.
@@nymez6968 which library/framework are you going to use if I may ask?
Do you have React courses? Not really intrested in Angular
awesome resume
It seems like Angular is on the path of removing most decorators (I assume they'll keep ones like component and module for now). It's unfortunate because I like decorators.
Course link ?
In my daily work I maintain AngularJS 1, that's a large app with millions of users per month. Our new project apps use React, but I want to learn or transition to Angular 2, can you point me to blogs, videos or helpful info to transition from AngularJS 1 to Angular?
Thank you!
I wanna be frontend dev using angular, how?
❤
Haven’t used Angular since v8. So what happened to RxJs?
Still there for async reactivity.
the main problem with Angular Versions I guess it's when you need to work with more than one project, that have different versions ( 11 and 17 for example) you need every time reinstall needed version of nodeJS and cli ( or use nvm)
With zoneless application, does it mean we dont have to set change detection to onPush?
zone.js use for trigger dirty check
onPush use for reduce the number of view for dirty check
so the onPush is still needed.
but Signal can detect which view is changed, so I think onPush will also be optional in future.
No decorators -> higher order functional components incoming
LOL, reviewing the course then.. Always busy with Angular...
You are the best! But it's a problem to buy from Russia.
I'm from Angular 7, what should I do?
Have they ever seen a thing called Vue? All this has been around for many years
is angular worth to learn ?
If you can find job offers and want to focus on this. React and Vue have an easier learning curve.
A lot of medium to larger companies use Angular either for internal or external apps.
Absolutely, it's already faster than most frameworks now, if you go zoneless. Plus it's much cleaner than f.ex React.
Dude angular created for adults whereas react created for kids ☺
Yes even kids can understand react but angular?
@@ranjithkea
Angular is not for kids to mess around. Play with water gun, real gun is not for kids.
React is a library, while Angular is a framework. Basically, they can’t be directly compared.
@@kumailn7662 Angular lives only because of Google. Angular 2 is completely different from angular 1 and angular 18 is different from angular 2 and still they are trying to implement the framework to be honest.. React is for massive scale but angular can quickly become a massive mess because it's by design..
@@ranjithkea so you just want to get flamed for this... lol. Inside of a video that is meant to grab Angular Fans. Imo, react is just ugly, end of story.
Do you intend to revise the Udemy courses as well?
I mention that at the very beginning of the video :)
Isn't this trying to be more react alike?
Angular Course ?
ruclips.net/video/GwGw9n7TAas/видео.html
what about react compiler ?
What about the price of rice in china?
you don't have to care about the compiler.
it work behind your code.
it will use AI to optimize and rebuild your code.
so you don't have to use useCallback or useMemo to manual optimize performance anymore.
and you even no need to care / learn how the rendering work in future.
focus back your business logic code.
Incorrect output() has better type definitions
Angular is cool but most of the company dont use angular :(
I’m waiting for angular 20 I think it will be updated in about 20 seconds or so
No that would be in 6 months, as Angular uses a very clearly defined release schedule with 2 major versions each year. It's not that hard to find factual information from the Angular team.
@@Daijyobanai bro it was just a joke :D
@@akashinigami9284 It couldn't be, jokes are funny.
:/
When you make tutorial in angulaer 17-18 for RUclips
Can you please make a video on how to deploy SSR implemented angular 18 website in a shared web hosting or in our system's IIS, please.
Or does anyone have any ideas on this, please reply to it.
We are upgrading from 11 to 18 atm. It is extremely backward compatible. Mat library has been the PITA, not the core
i love those decorator, i love those interface and implementation , :( why angular start coming closer to react, I don't like react with those stupid naming conventions hooks. Angular please don't do that.
However you always a love and always will be Angular (love)
In few years, angular will become SolidJS🤔
Hi Max , Your tutorials helping me a lot. I improve my skills with your tutorials day by day 🎉 . I hope to find my first software developer job soon. Every like and subscription is a support for me ☺️.
Angular 18 is great, but it has problems with Micro Front-Ends currently, so I cannot use it in my work. So far no solution to it, afaik.
My team switched from Angular to Svelte and we're never going back. Even with these updates it still seems needlessly complex.
I'm a huge Angular fan, but I have to agree with you. Since NgModules aren't necessary anymore, the new svelte-like control flow, and signal implementation, Angular has come a long way. But the component authoring experience is still the most verbose/complex of any framework I'm aware of. If they solve that problem, I think it'll be right there with Svelte in my book. SvelteKit is criminally unrelated though. That would be my first choice to start a new project.
@@kylerjohnson988 i would say be careful starting large-scale apps with svelte. svelte is great, but the third-party libraries it has is still limited, compared to what you get with Angular, React and Vue.
They should keep decorators as this feature is the only good thing about Angular. Without them it will be just garbage.
after 18 iterations now its barely good
just everything vue.js already can... thats so sad
i really couldn't give a f...
Your Mom
Why would anyone want to use classes when programming their UI
2024
Angular is moving towards more being like JavaScript and less like JAVA.
Good won't intimidate people immediately just by the looks of code
Do away from class component and decirator
first
Looks like blazor to me hehehe
God i hate frontend so much
I can understand. Btw I'm loving both frontend and backend.
What we do not need is constant changes and updates, hence Angular is irrelevant ...
Mhmm, I dont think your statement makes any sense.
Actually the only constant thing is change 😅 especially in the software world, or IT in general. Something you should already be used to if you work in it.
@@1306dk Change is your enemy , do you know why? It wastes your time, resource you have limited amount of. Have you thought why business likes stable environment? Because it does not waste resources. Software dev. is world run by tool sellers. They sell to those who can't recognize, that stability is their greatest friend and the seller's greatest enemy.
After Svelte, everything else is pure GARBAGE.
yay another stupid update!
A breaking change every 6 months, no thanks. Backward compatible it is not.
Which change do you mean?
be responsible for your words, which change do you mean?
Your ignorance is displayed here for all to see. That must burn
It's backwards compatible rofl
Just no to ever using this horrible framework again. Me and my team at work have moved on years ago and never looked back.
Share your journey. What are you using now?
@@md.redwanhossain6288 Svelte with SvelteKIT.
If you "need" Angular you are simply a Back-Ender that hates Front-End. The only group who looooves Angular or even use it 2024.
So, engineers?
Not really. Angular now has better performance than most frameworks. how bout that? lol
not agree.
if you are only Font-Ender, you won't love Angular very much, because you have to learn additional knowledge and concepts.
if you are only Back-Ender, you hate Font-end.
if you are Full-stack (with multiple languages and frameworks), you might love Angular, because the additional knowledge and concepts are applicable everywhere.
Frontend needs engineering, angular does it in a nice way. My eyes literally bleed when I see react code, such a mess.
Found you, foot gun lover
new way syntax of viewchild is not working at all i tried to do sameway but not working
see my error by the way
NG0906: The computed2 is not an Angular component, make sure it has the `@Component` decorator.
at assertComponentDef (core.mjs:10477:11)
at createComponent (core.mjs:37402:16)
at _NgbModalStack._createFromComponent (ng-bootstrap.mjs:9896:26)
at _NgbModalStack._getContentRef (ng-bootstrap.mjs:9867:19)
at _NgbModalStack.open (ng-bootstrap.mjs:9796:29)
at _NgbModal.open (ng-bootstrap.mjs:10003:29)