As always, you provide a really healthy sense of groundedness in the reviews you give, which are also extremely informative. You qualify things in a way that really instills credence in the statements you make. That's so helpful in what is usually a hyperbolic hobby!
Thank you for the awesome review I just ordered the Chord Hugo TT2 yesterday to replace my Hugo 2! After my wallet recovers I will eventually get the Hugo M scaler to attach to my Hugo TT2. Again, Great review!
Yeah ordered the TT2 as well. Need some time to pass by before I can drop another 4-5k on an MScaler ... but damn Rob Watts sells it so damn well ... :)
I would point out that roughly 8 percent of men are colorblind, and while I love the whimsical nature of Chord's designs, I personally have a very hard time recognizing the differences between the colors Chord's choices and it causes a bit of anxiety and confusion.
Well, I received Hugo TT2, put it in line, waited for BAT Vk-75 to warm up for 24 hours. Figured out my iPhone connection, getting 24 bit 44.1kHz 96kHz and 192kHz from Apple Music through iPone 13 pro Max. WOW kHz matters. Airplay will only do 16bit 44.1 for now. You were right, I want a M scaler now. Gruuuuuu Oh, I love the color change so you know the kHz. Red for 44.1, green for 96kHz, Blue for 192kHz.Everyone should know that Chord is genius for doing that. Most men have a better visual memory, then reading, then hearing. Thanks
So glad you're liking it! I personally love the coloured indicators too, especially once you get used to the ROYGBIV sequence as you climb sample rates
Wonderful review. Buying it w your own money makes your review really unique as it is neutral. It is better than having the unit sent to you - as listeners we can tell. I am a Chord TT (not TT2) user. I initially did not treasure it as much. Recently I compared it to the topping D90, mytek brooklyn plus, matrix x-sabre pro. I had weeks listening to each dac as they are loaned to me by my friend who is blessed to have the funds to buy whatever equipment he wants. What we learnt is that the Chord is really a very high-end dac. I connect all dacs directly to my active speakers. TT is so resolved, the sound is so energetic yet pleasant and the bass is strong. I remember on one track w the mytek the sound stage is like just left and right. No height. When we swap to the TT, it is apparent that the soundstage has height to it. Soundstage is stable. The matrix xsp is so smooth and the highs are sparkly. The mytek has such a dark background and accurate timbre w good transients - it sounds like I am listening to a record player when playing back an aiff file. But the downside w the mytek is that it is less refined. While mytek brings me to the mixing studio, the Chord clearly brings me to the recording venue itself. The Chord just makes you hear so much details, it paints a high density wall of sound before you - the hallmark of a true high end product. The D90...is ok, not at the same level as the rest. I suspect Chord miscalculated when they launched the TT2 w the mscaler which clearly works as a pair. The pair is just out of reach for most people. I suspect most people won’t be used to the level of detail and resolve the TT2 can bring. It needs the mscaler to make it more listenable. If so, then.. better for me to stick to my battery powered TT. Will be great if one day you can compare the TT to the TT2, and see how much the TT2 has progressed since the TT.
Managed to get a used TT2 for a price I was happy with. It seems to have been exactly what I was looking for. Holo may was missing something for me. It was a fantastic dac as I mentioned in the comments for another video with HQPlayer. I think the air/clarity the TT2 has is what I've been missing from the May when I had it. I also love that I have top tier filtering outside of HQPlayer as well. Maybe I'm one of the minority that prefers a digital/hifi sound to their music. On a side note, I read all over that the TT2 can't drive Susvara from its HP out. I'm struggling to understand how this is so widely agreed on since I can listen to it just fine at about -8 on the TT2 and I even sometimes prefer it straight out of the TT2 vs out of the Holo Bliss. I didn't feel like Susvara was lacking anything or struggling with the TT2 at all, it was just a different presentation with the Bliss being a bit warmer with a bigger stage. I'm not really a measurements person by any means (I used to fall for that scam but Bursons gear snapped me out of it, thank you Burson), but sometimes I wonder if headphones really do run into power issues or if it's just really coloration people want and tie it to power. Even thinking of selling the Bliss. Looking forward to hearing the Calderas at the next canjam near me. Susvara seems evenly balanced and open to me tone wise and not sure if I'll like the Caldera being more weighty/bassy. If you were in the states I'd have happily sent you the Bliss to review.
Thank you SO much for sharing these impressions and, more importantly, trusting your own ears on the sound. I believe what you're hearing from the TT2 isn't a digital sound, but just clarity. The May is lovely and I get why people like it, but I felt exactly the same as you when I compared it to the TT2. As for the Susvaras, you're absolutely right that the TT2 handles it fine and that what people ACTUALLY tend to want is a different tonality. For some reason, this myth has been created that the tonality is linked to power, but it's absolutely not. Richness and warmth can be found at any power level just as crispness and attack can too. I'm so glad you're enjoying the TT2. Congrats on a great purchase.
One of the best reviews out there for the TT2. I recommend Al Jarreau - Your Song and Nat King Cole - Autumn Leaves. These are some of my testing tracks. I got my eyes on the TT2 for a while and it is 4800 USD here in Switzerland. Thing is my girlfriend says I am nuts if I buy it :) so I will have to see...
Hello again Passion for Sound. With reference to you talking about the time the TT2 takes to go from rear ports to headphones. I think that might be because you may have your rear output mode in high gain, and your headphones in low gain. or vice-versa. Today on my TT2 for the first time ever, there was no wait. It must be that for the first time, both rear ports and headphones output were in the same gain state. I just tested further. If you have your TT2 in DAC mode feeding an amplifier, then headphones need to use low gain for no wait. If headphones are in high gain, and TT2 in DAC mode for rear ports, then there is the wait. Summary: Rear ports = amp mode high gain, headphones = amp mode high gain // no wait to switch to headphones. Rear ports = amp mode low gain, headphones = amp mode high gain // wait to switch to headphones. (Similarly for vice versa.) It seems to be only when the DAC changed amp gain mode, that there is a wait. Rear ports = DAC mode, headphones = amp mode low gain // no wait to switch to headphones. Rear ports = DAC mode, headphones = amp mode high gain // wait to switch to headphones. Therefor DAC mode must be low gain.
Hi Three Cats, thanks for your comment and the thorough explanation. I started to discover this myself after the review was done. I'd been tricked by the fact that Rob Watts recommended using the TT2 in high gain because there's a resistor added to the output in low gain to reduce the gain, but I've been consistently on low gain since I discovered what you're describing here. I'd prefer quick switching than a 0.0001% sound quality improvement! 😉
It would be extremely nice if you also had compared Chord Dave to M scaler TT 2 combo. Price wise those are similar options. There is very little comparisons online regarding solo Dave vs MTT2 combo. I had to chose between these two rigs. And oh boy it wasn't an easy decision.
No, sometimes I can arrange loans, but most reviews are coming out of my own pocket while I grow the channel. Suppliers tend to want to see big subscriber numbers before they lend expensive gear.
@@PassionforSound Fully understand. If you had lived somewhere in europe I would borrow you Dave for do the review. Anyway try to do such comparison in the future (maybe some dealer will be interested in loaning a Dave). I know it would be a successful video as many people are considering such switch. Have a nice listening with MTT2 - it's truly an amazing tech.
Hello. How do you compare tt2 vs hugo 2 usinig both as a DAC? About soundstage size and layering. and another question. The XLR output has more volts in comparison to hugo 2 using both as a fixed DAC?
The TT2 is a significant step up from the Hugo 2, but it's been a long time since I compared them so it's hard to describe exactly. My video where I compare the TT2 and Qutest is probably the best reference as the Hugo 2 and Qutest use the same DAC. As for outputs, yes, the XLR output is 4V and RCA only 2V when using fixed level outputs.
@dynamic-audio I wouldn't say better, but different. I haven't tried the Terminator, but the May and TT2 both offer excellent depth and layering. Where they differ is that the image is a little bit more tight and focussed from the TT2. The May's imaging is a little larger which brings weight and presence to instruments, but might be a touch less accurate in the placement of sounds.
@@PassionforSound Finally I bought hugo tt2. Sounds very good in comparison to the qutest and hugo 2. I have a question. Do you know where Can I find the Wiring/pinout of the cable to connect by XLR my headphones? I want to try to build by myself an adapter but I can not find the wiring.
@dynamic-audio the rear XLR outputs are the standard wiring for all XLR interconnects so a quick Google search should get the answers for you. Just try a search like "3-pin XLR wiring diagram"
Sorry for commenting on such an old video. But I am about to buy (used) a TT2 and wanted to see if it's still a good DAC/AMP in todays market? This will be used in my work head-fi setup and I might ad the M scaler down the track. Used only with Roon and a mixture of IEMs and openback (LCD-3's) and closed back Sony Z1R's I've just sold/selling my Topping/Xduoo DAC/AMPS wanting to go to the 'next level' as I am currently using the Mojo 2 with the Fiio SR11 streamer for Roon
All videos are open for commenting, Steve! 😁 The TT2 is still (IMO) the best bang for buck DAC, headamp and preamp combo on the market. You'll love it!
A few follow on questions please. How well does the Hugo tt2 pair with the ZMF Verity Closed-back and the ZMF Atrium? I am seriously considering the Hugo tt2. My current system is Auris HA2-SE tube amp and D2D dac. How would I connect the tt2 to the amp if I wanted a warmer sound and would it be practical to do so in your opinion. TIA.
The TT2 is great with basically everything IMO (very good with Atrium, VC is good), but if you're enjoying the sound that tubes bring, you can take RCA and XLR out of the TT2 to feed whatever amps you like. 🙂
Once thing I have come to realize about chord products in general while good are quirky. Each of their products seems to have their own odd quirks. Must be a British thing. Have I missed it or have you done a review of the chord mojo? A more affordable option for your audience. When you start taking the time and adding the mscaller than your getting it chord dac territory. And when your up at this level of price I would be considering the dcs bartok as well. A bit more but is very flexible as a dac, precum, streamer and a great class a heaphone amp. I'm told that dcs just came out with a great version of cross-feed for headphones. Thank you for the terrifc review! I hope your channel continues to grow. Many could learn from your professionalism and concise review style. I do love that you take suggests for tracks for reviewing from you viewer and subscribers!
Thanks Brandon. I'm not sure about the quirkiness, if it's a British thing or just a Chord thing. It creates a mixed experience sometimes with both good and bad, but I think the good wins out. I owned a Mojo briefly, but didn't want to overdo all the Chord content so I skipped reviewing it. Also, it's quite dated now and while there's no talk of a Mojo 2, I feel like there are more contemporary products to focus on
Im going to ask you for help , i have TT2 and Mscaler, both new by a couple of months, the Mscaler is malfunctioning badly in a few ways mainly cable connections and replay. So am of course in contact with Choed, in the meantime im using TT2 alone into Lcd5 headphones. Im unable to understand how you can take it up a notch from 44.1 to next level, Can anyone give me step by step? Im on Bnc2 and hi gain -4 for listening. Im really stuck
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, Anna. Can I ask a few questions? 1) if the M-Scaler isn't being used, how is the TT2 connected to your source? 2) what is your source? (Probably should have asked that first!) Also, that volume level is extremely high for LCD-5s which suggests either dangerous listening levels (please be careful with your hearing!) or perhaps an issue with the setup, but let's deal with #1 & #2 first.
@@PassionforSound thanks , appreciate this, my source is Rega apollo cdp via coax I had it connected to mscaler but was finding that if the twin bnc were touched or moved the hugo would cycle through all options of dac amp etc. Then was getting sound reproduction with a recessed background and weird echo. So disconnected mscaler, connection is secure with just tt2. I assume its on hi gain, says so. Its on blue on volume -4. I find when i use ferrum oor and hypsos that with 6.35 plug that im really having hard time getting decent volume under 3 oclock so maybe just me. My hearing is fine and no deafness so i assume its just me. Chord Anni i use at 2 oclock volume. Im asking if tt2 has ability without mscaler to play above 44.1 or is mscaler needed for higher resolution -4
Ok, cool. It sounds like the output level from the CDP is quite low based on the volumes you're requiring on your amps (either that or you have difficult headphones and listen loud). As for the sample rate, CD will always be at 44.1kHz unless you have a device like the M-Scaler upsampling in between the CDP and TT2. Hope that helps
Sticking an eye on the Qutest siting off camera is a testimony about it's name and power. This is the only thing I'm going to remember about this all thing... We're talking about 3 times the price between the two : who needs a 2000 € bonus after being smart ? Really. Btw, the interview with Watts is a great piece of « DAC 2020 Report », thx.
Do you think the Hugo TT 2 would benefit from being paired with a Pass HPA-1 or a SPL Phonitor XE? I'm not super familiar with chord but I'm looking at trialing either a Qutest or a TT 2 soon and am wondering if I should use it standalone or pair it with one of these amps to bring the best out of it. Most people seem to be using them as a standalone?
Hi James, for headphones (speakers mght be different), the TT2 is wonderfully transparent and I'm yet to find anything better as an amp, unless you want specific colouration. With my HD800S, I actually prefer amps like the Bottlehead Mainline and Denafrips Artemis (just reviewed) because of their warmth, but for headphones that don't start bright and analytical, I always choose the TT2. Hope that helps.
@@PassionforSound Thank you for the reply! I see, I'm trying to decide between the Hugo 2 or the Qutest to start before I can upgrade to the TT 2, I've watched a lot of reviews that indicate the Qutest has a nicer sound than the Hugo 2 which from what I've seen hasn't reviewed amazingly. I originally had intended on getting a RME ADI-2 Dac or a Topping D90 then eventually upgrading to a TT2 but after hearing a TT 2 and a Dave a few years ago I'm hooked on Chord and those will be my eventual endgame, but I've had a hard time deciding which to get on my way there. Unfortunately none of the HiFi shops here have been open all year so I can't really do any exploration with combos and amps on my own.
Yeah, that's tough. I'd personally get Qutest and a decent amp. You could then add the M-Scaler if you're interested (check out my M-Scaler & Qutest video) before finally getting the TT2 to pair with the M-Scaler. Or you could just go from Qutest to TT2 of course with no M-Scaler.
mmm... A lot more a difference between the Qutest and the TT2 responsible for sound quality, not just the order of the filter. 12th order noise shaper and 2nd analogue noise shaper architecture of the DAC and output stages respectively (with added supercap based PSU) aid a lot, along with the reference circuity from DAVE. It is also a next gen design; the power amp is actually integrated into the pulse array DAC circuit creating what Rob calls the Power Pulse Array architecture. The TT2 is the first power pulse array device in a series of future releases. BTW, the tonal weight of the TT2 can be really improved upon using the Farad Super3 LPSU; its extremely fast transient response and extremely low noise do so much to complement the amp section of the TT2 and existing PSU, there is a legit audible difference and makes the TT2 sound more authoritative than it already is (that "warmth" and control without the loss of resolution... an improvement in texture actually...).
@@PassionforSound I am sure you can ask Mattijs Vries, who is the designer of the Super3, for a loaner or review unit (info@faradpowersupplies.com). I contacted him prior to buying my unit with a barrage of technical q's which he was happy to answer. Helpful guy. Super3 performance measurement is here: www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/super3-a-supercapacitor-lps-by-farad-power-supplies.29931/
Fabulous review. If connecting to another power amp (such as a Rotel for eg), should the volume be maxed on the Rotel and therefore control volume on Chord or vice versa? Cheers
Hi Sam, that's something you can play with to find out what works best, but normally the TT2 would be used in DAC mode so it provides a fixed output and you'd control volume with your amp.
The TT2 on its own doesn't create any noticeable lag so I wouldn't worry about that. The M-Scaler does create a lag, but also has a low latency mode that works great with games and movies
So this is probably a dumb question, but how does this compare to the ZMF Pendant amp that I currently have. I am getting an Audeze LCD-5 and I am wondering if it would be worth it to get this.
The Pendant is just an amp whereas the TT2 is DAC and amp so it's hard to compare because you'd need to compare the Pendant being fed by a TT2 as a comparison, otherwise you're comparing the DACs used as much as the amps. I'm yet to try a Pendant, but I do hope to in the future. That means I can't really help right now other than saying that the TT2 is extremely neutral and transparent. The Pendant will inevitably bring some character to the sound, but that can be a positive. I love the TT2 feeding my Mainline and TU-8200R tube amps so I expect the Pendant would be equally enjoyable
I only need the dac part of the TT without pre-amp, any suggestions? The inputs / outputs of the Hugo 2 look a bit flimsy? How would the Hugo 2 compare with Qutest and Hugo TT?
Hi Tim, the Hugo 2 uses the exact same DAC stage as Qutest so they're pretty interchangeable. I think I recall that the Qutest has galvanic isolation of the USB circuit, but Hugo 2 doesn't, but otherwise they're the same. I'd probably go for the Qutest unless you need some specific function of the Hugo 2.
I sure have! Check out my review of the Wave High Fidelity cables and if that's a bit too rich (they are VERY pricey) then sit tight because I'm reviewing the Supra BNC cables soon and Supra tend to make excellent cables at very reasonable prices.
Why is the qutest designed with less taps than tt2? I like the tt2 dac with lots more taps but all the other stuff for headphones/amp is more than I need since I don’t use headphones. Seems I’d be paying for lots more stuff than I need. Seems I want the advanced edition of qutest with more taps but it don’t exist.
Interesting question and very hard to say without a direct comparison. I think the TT2 would win out due to the simpler signal path, but it would be a close thing I expect.
@@PassionforSound Thanks so much. I'm on the fence between these options. I have a Hugo 2 and love the linear, neutral and somewhat bright quality. I understand the TT2 is a little warmer?
I haven't compared Hugo 2 with TT2 so I can't really say, but I absolutely adore the TT2 - it's amazing. If we talk about the whole picture, the Aries has a pretty flat soundstage (i.e. lacking in depth, not dynamics) whereas the TT2 images wonderfully. I would choose the TT2 amp over the Aries everytime (not a knock on the Aries).
Hi Andrei, the TT2 can apparently drive sensitive passives using an adapter from the XLR outs. I don't use passives so I couldn't test, but it is possible.
@@PassionforSound I was driving my 88db speakers directly from TT2 xlrs to really loud levels. Definitely this is something to try - transparency was tremendous.
Absolutely. I like the Susvara with a slightly fuller sounding amp, but the TT2 has enough power to drive the Susvaras with no stress (assuming you listen at safe levels and don't bump EQ significantly)
Thanks for your reply. As you saw from my other comments on your videos (which I love BTW) I’m trying to decide between TT2 as an all in one vs a Burson or Ferrum dedicated amp and a separate DAC, for same total cost.
No problems. The TT2 is the best DAC I've tried so far and the most transparent amp I've tried so far thanks to the direct connection from DAC to amp stage. The only other setup is personally consider as reaching a similar sonic level is the Holo Audio May and Burson Soloist GT.
I haven't tried them together to know, but the TT2 USB input will work up to 384kHz without drivers on Windows (Wasapi, not ASIO) so I imagine it would work with other devices. Of course, if the Zen outputs optical or coaxial then that will definitely work.
I would be very interested in your opinions about the streamer/server end of the chain. It is a nascent market but exploding. I entered with an entry level Innuos Zen Mini just before Covid hit, and upgraded with a separate power supply and reclocker both subsequently developed by Innuos. They have also developed a router for music streaming. They have many levels of product sophistication beyond the Mini, some at bank account depleting price points. They use their own proprietary software for interface with content providers and also rip/ store CDs as well as purchased down loads from Obitz and HD Tracks. They have a very user friendly and robust library management capability in their software. I am in the process of upgrading my system and wonder if I should go up their food chain or switch to another provider before I invest. It may be cost prohibitive for you to go in this direction but providers may want to enter the Australian market and therefore provide loaners. Specifically, Innuos is out of Portugal. P.S. love your incisive and un-hyped reviews. Would like to hear your opinion of the T+A late entry into the market in competition with the likes of Susvara et. al. and Chord, Holo, and Molo Molo.
Would you say the tt2 headphones amp is a good match for say a hifiman arya and above, or would a burson 3xr gt soloist with a qutest a smarter choice? Mainly regarding the headphone amp part. Is the headphone amp of the tt2 up to spec?
The headphone amp in the TT2 is excellent. It's a very short, direct signal path from the DAC which results in a very transparent sound. So, in terms of quality, is exceptional. In terms of tonality, some will find it too honest and dry for certain headphones because it's not adding any smoothness to the sound.
@@PassionforSound hmm than that could be a good option for me (I hate harsch) but love a clear and clean sound without anything bloated (like bass for example) and as a bonus a even better dac than the qutest. I am a huge fan of jazz and blues
I wanted to thank you again for this great review! My second time watching it! I love my TT2 so much. It is, to me, an end game amp/DAC! One question, will the front outputs of the TT2 be enough for the LCD 55 to really bring out the best of it? Thank you again?
So glad you're enjoying your TT2, Greg. I haven't checked the LCD-5 out yet, but the front outputs of the TT2 drive the Susvaras just fine so the LCD-5 should be no issue
@@PassionforSound Thank you for your time and response. I may actually opt for the Susvaran instead of the LCD 5. It would be great if you could do a comparison video of the Susvara and LCD 5. Thank you again! Your videos are great!
It should do just fine, Ronald. The AB-1266 need about 1.6W to get to 120dB. Chord haven't published a wide range of power figures, but based on the 8 ohm numbers, the TT2 should deliver just enough from the single-ended outputs. What I'd probably do though is get a custom cable to connect to the balanced XLR outputs on the back (these cables are readily available). Using the balanced outputs will get you up to more like 3W of power available which is plenty.
@@PassionforSound Thank you so much, i just ordered my 1266 and was thinking of pairing it with this DAC/Amp. I will see how the SE output works and will get the custom cable if need be
Does anyone out there know if I can use my iPhone, to my Allo DigiOne Signature, with cable, then to Hugo TT 2 out of the clean board BNC. Or, is it better straight to TT 2 with cable. Problem is my system can here adaptors and I haven't found a high quality cable with USB-B to Lightning. There are good cables with USB-A to lightning or USB-A to USB-C. The DigiOne Signature has two USB 3.0 and two USB 2.0 in. hummmm
@@PassionforSound Well, I bought a 1M Curious Evolved. I will attach to my MacBook Pro through Audiodquest Carbon extender, usb-a to usb-c. On the A end attach a Audioquest Jitter Bug, then the Curious. I can try with the Jitter Bug or with out. A little testing here. Thanks for all your help. This is old hat stuff to you, but new stuff to me. lol
It's still a little way off I'm afraid due to the flood of new products that all came out at the same time. Not too far now, but still a bit of a wait.
I've just recently reviewed the Curious Evolved USB and it really changed my views on USB cables (hard to explain without seeing the review). I've also got some more affordable USB cables coming up for review soon (early next year)
My 3.5mm socket doesn't grab at all like you describe yours. I sometimes used AKG N5005 and they have a tiny jack, which comes out perfectly from the TT2 socket. You missed some differences between TT2 and Qutest. ….. 1. The TT2 is quite a bit more explicit than the Qutest, whereas you said there is just a bit more detail with TT2. (Given the incredible detail level with Qutest though, wow.) 2. Occasionally there is so much reality in presentation with the TT2 that it can sound almost alien. (Whereas the Qutest / Hugo 2 when they do that, they sound 'frighteningly good'.) It's related to that sense of being able to hear so much, that it can actually be unnerving. It doesn't take long to acclimatise to either DAC though. Then it becomes just being laid back with what the DACs do. 3. TT2 transients are faster. This means that e.g. vocals that come in with a 'T' sound can almost make you jump with the TT2. That's when coming from the Qutest, and know music well with its signature. (Meaning with TT2, more of the start of the vocal is heard.) 4. TT2 is more dynamic. In other words, the TT2 leaves the Qutest / Hugo 2 sounding just a little soft. Yet the Hugo 2 / Qutest by themselves are outstanding. Plus having said that, reverting to the Qutest from the TT2, is not a negative experience. I have driven quality speakers with the TT2, and it's a full and solid sounding DAC with class leading detail.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Three Cats! I totally agree with what you said about the Qutest sounding a bit softer / smoother or even warmer than the TT2. I feel like that's most prominent from the TT2 amp (which we can't use with the Qutest) and is reduced somewhat using external amps with both DACs by the time we lose a little of the transparency and directness of the TT2 onboard amp.
@@PassionforSound Yes it is a shame that the Qutest doesn't have a headphone port. I think Chord Electronics are missing that in their line-up. ( I think they need a desktop mains powered DAC with a headphones port. I know the Hugo 2 has 'desktop mode', but the batteries will eventually wear.) There is nothing priced less than the TT2 that will mains power and have a headphone port. Again, we can go with Hugo 2. However there is no separate volume control between RCA out and headphone out. Leading to headphones getting a blast of RCA volume on occasion. Some people get around that, but they have to be very careful. They will use software to run files from e.g. a PC, but software that has volume control. Then use the ports out of the Qutest and an adapter to use headphones. Must be extremely careful to have volume down on the software though, or volume will be deafening. Might damage hearing or headphones. Personally I think it's best to play safe and use a headphone amp.
Another great video. Thank you. I commented on your brilliant m scaler review and mentioned reclockers. I currently have a new tt2 on trial and I agree with all the points you made about it’s dac performance in 2 channel Hi-Fi. I was wondering if you found the tt2 more fatiguing than the qutest? I am currently finding it quite edgy over the qutest in my system. As you said perhaps it’s transparency is highlighting a problem in my system but the qutest on its most incisive filter is smoother than the tt2 on its warmest filter and the qutest sounds perfect in my system. Thanks again!
Hi Max, thank you and glad you liked the review! I did some research into the re-clockers and discovered that both the M-Scaler and TT2 both re-clock the signal though I'm not sure how their process compares to the dedicated devices. As for the edginess, I think the TT2 is incredibly transparent and is likely not smoothing off the edges like some other gear might. My experience with the equipment I've had is that it opens the sound more without being at all fatiguing so I think it probably has to do with the headphones / speakers that people use with the TT2. So much of a great system is about the synergy of each device (DAC, amp, spakers/headphones, even interconnects) and that's why there's no such thing as the 'best' of anything - it all depends on the usage
Passion for Sound thank you for the reply. Perhaps my unit requires more running in. You mentioned that your dac was x demo! The weak chain in my system currently is the streamer so I am going to look into that as an area to investigate next. My other option is to try the m scaler with the Qutest. With regard to the re clocker in my system I have tried it with and without paired with tbt tt2, and it brings a noticeable up tic in detail and resolution. An essential part of my digital chain. Thanks again for the superb reviews though, as what others have said it’s a great honest review of their product.
Thanks Max. Sounds like I'll have to try a reclocker at some point. As for the burn-in question, it is possible. What are you driving from the TT2? Headphones, speakers? Which ones?
Passion for Sound hi again, thanks for taking the time to reply to my messages. Really good of you. I am running Pmc twenty5.23 speakers Naim supernait 3 with high cap dr Allo digione signature steamer with linear power supply Hugo tt2 Mutec mc3 smart clock Dedicated mains line to consumer unit Isol-8 minisub axis power conditioner Chord company cables I’ve also got fibre optic patch cable isolating network noise going to the streamer The balance with the Qutest was perfect, so that’s why I’m surprised the TT2 is struggling to fit in! Even the 4th filter is currently too hot. I am tempted to run an eq on it in roon!
That's quite a setup, Max. Now that I know you're using speakers I unfortunately don't know what else to suggest because I'm not a speaker guy these days ☹️ The fact that the Qutest sounded just right is curious because I personally didn't notice a huge tonal difference between the two and found that the differences were more about texture and soundstage improvements. You might be right about burn-in perhaps, but I'm not sure - sorry!
Great review as usual! Couple questions if you've got a minute: 1. What mode did you have the TT2 in when comparing to the Qutest? Just the standard filter? 2. Does that sphere on the front for the volume control roll left to right or how does that work?
Hi Sasha, glad you liked the review. I was using the same filters on both for the comparison - both on the first filter. Because they use the same filtering system this means they were identically setup. With the volume ball on the TT2 it just rolls left and right like you said 🙂
The TT2 is amazing with IEMs (I literally just used it to compare the IE900 and 64Audio U12t). The volume control is fully digital and lossless (i.e. not dropping bits to reduce sound level) so even at the lowest volume it is perfectly balanced and there's a good range before it gets too loud
@@PassionforSound Wow very cool, sounds like a true all-rounder! Yeah I typically worry/wonder about that with digital volume control, never know how it's implemented. Thanks again.
Excellent review as always. But I’m even really stuck now! I’ve been looking into a desktop only DAC/HPA combo and not sure whether to go with: Chord Qutest + third party HPA (maybe A90 or benchmark HPA4)? Chord Hugo 2 (just not a fan of it as a desktop only solution) Or just going all out and getting a TT2...
what % of the performance of the DAVE do you get with this bad boy? havent heard a comparison between the two. the DAVE is just incredibly realistic and the imaging was just insane.
Hi Edward, I haven't compared them side by side, but the Dave has a different character based on my brief listens. It's more transparent and has a more delicate touch.
I own the TT2 it is more organic sounding than the Dave, Dave is more analytical. For only headphone listening the TT2 is the way to go, as DAC only better get the Dave.
That's an excellent point. More articulation/attack on leading edges, but it also captures the resonance and harmonics better to reproduce weight and presence where it should be
Hi, I noticed you'd seen my comment / query to Bill; I know what you've described in your very good review; I have a great system which has taken me approx' 30 years of being into HiFi (listed below my message) and my scenario so you have more idea of the level of revelance etc. Unfortunately I had a MX (Motocross, or Scrambles as it used to be called) accident many years ago which left me a Tetraplegia C4/5 - paralysed from my chest down - I have a very limited time up in my 'chair (currently 5 hours which = 19 hours a day in my bedroom!, 7 to 10 of which are spent listening to music!)... as you can hopefully appreciate / understand, my HiFi / Music are literally my everything and main enjoyment in my life! Can you please advise me if you think this (Hugo TT2) brings quite a bit more / enough to the table over the Qutest (which I already have) when used only as a DAC to make it worth the purchase? (I've seen some go for 3K). "Thanks!" in advance. All the best, Simon. My system (taken me approx' 30yrs to get to via demo's, buying / selling, deals etc!): Naim HDX (2TB - This is truly SO good for me because I cannot physically use a standard remote control, but with environmental controls I can use it in virtually the same way; When I had it in 2013, it was the first time since 1989 that I could interact (myself) with my entire CD collection!). Naim XPS Power supply. Musical Fidelity Nu-Vista 800 Amplifier (Tuned further by John Sampson - HIGHLY recommended, from an already great Amp’ to a superb Amp’ IMO!)... Those three components are plugged into a Russ Andrews X4 Block (which was a good improvement) each using an Atlas EOS 4DD UK Mains Power Cable. Kef Reference 1 'speakers. Chord Electronics Qutest DAC (plugged into standard wall socket). Chord Company Sarum Super Aray (not the latest version) interconnects & SignatureXL ‘speaker cable.
Thanks for the details about your system! I definitely think the TT2 is a clear step up from the Qutest. It's got a slightly drier sound than the Qutest so take that into account, but I do think it's a worthy upgrade. The other DAC in a similar price range that might be worth considering is the Holo Audio May KTE. I would choose that if you want a slightly richer sounding DAC (very slightly smoother than the Qutest, but better detail, space, etc.) or stick with Chord and go with the TT2 if your system will suit about a 1-2% drier sound (it's only a very subtle shift)
@@PassionforSound Thanks so much for your advice; Being as it has a bit of a warmer / richer sound already (I think mostly down to the Naim units), it sounds like the TT2 may be the way to go / try then! Thanks again... all the best, Simon.
Great review. I think you’re in Melbourne? If you were looking for content I have several high end items I’d be happy to lend to you. I’m in Prahran. Cheers.
Hi Tim, that's great - thank you! I am in Melbourne, but I also am currently swamped with gear all the way through to April. Perhaps after that we can chat though? Would you like to email me at passionforsound@lachlanfennen.com? Perhaps we can arrange something later in the year and I'm always happy to offer a counter loan if I have products to spare that are of interest. 🙂
A friend of mine told me that he’s had the TT2 and he found it very “tiring”, because maybe too detailed and not so musical. Would you agree with that?
I think the TT2 without the M-Scaler could potentially be perceived that way, but it also depends a lot on the headphones being used with it. The Qutest and a nice amp like the Singxer SA-1 (good) or Burson Soloist (better) might be a little more forgiving, but the TT2 is better given suitable headphones
The one I just bought from Aurealis here in Australia is great! Uses Amphenol connectors which I like more than Neutrik (for look and feel, no sound difference)
@@PassionforSound thanks for the quick response. I've got a TT 2 on the way and I'm in the same boat, all my previous amps have offered 4-pin XLR. I'm not eager to replace all my cables with single ended but I also hate the idea of adding another connection when the point of the TT 2 is to have as direct a signal path as possible. I've always valued separates as well but I'm excited to have a simple desktop solution (with some tube power on the side for fun ;) Great review. Enjoyed you M Scaler one as well. That thing still seems like black magic but everyone seems to agree that it does work. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Adrian. Check out the review dropping in a few minutes - I've tried to properly explain what the M-Scaler does without using jargon. Sounds like you've got a very similar setup to me as I have the Mainline for my tubey goodness.
A90 was on my shortlist for my ongoing amp stage conundrum for the desktop headphone rig (Hugo2 amp stage just lacks something comapred to when I line out to a headphone amp) , but after watching this - arrgghh come on man now I just wanna spend mega again and get the TT2 . What are you doing to me lol.
Haha - sorry!! Hold off until I review the A90 (coming in the next few weeks). I might save you some cash (although I can tell you that the A90 is not as good as the TT2 amp stage. ;)
@@PassionforSound You're welcome, and in the video you mentioned that the tt2 is really transparent and some people might find too clean, I'm also agree on that, I'm using 800s and d9200 with my tt2, my 800s often sound a bit lean with tt2, but I purchased a naim uniti core as my source recently, the warm and musical signature sound from naim fixed the issue, now it sounds really good!
Hi Barry, I'll be able to provide that comparison in a few weeks' time once I've done some thorough listening to the D90. In short, the D90 is very good, but the TT2 is still clearly better. If the TT2 is a 9/10, the D90 is probably a 7/10 or maybe 7.5. I'll provide thorough descriptions of what's different when I post the D90 review
Well the color coding is a pain when you‘re color blind... 2nd, this is an expensive unit, if I am just looking for a DAC I would pay a lot for the headphone section I don’t use. 3rd, their products are not upgradable so if you have a TT from 2017, no chance to upgrade the hardware to an to a TT2 for instance.
I agree about the colour coding. In practice though, the colours aren't that important unless you're regularly switching sources and the auto source selection can take care of that. Upgradability is very rare in audio. There are a few brands like Schiit and PS Audio that do allow for hardware or firmware upgrades, but it's not the norm. As for paying for the amp that you won't use, I do agree to a point, but keep in mind that the same output stage is used for the DAC, pre-amp and headphone outputs (with some very minimal componentry added) so you're paying for a high quality output stage first and foremost that just happens to be versatile enough to drive multiple output types. If it's not a good fit for you, that's ok - I'm not trying to sell TT2s - I just like to explain things for others who might read this.
@@PassionforSound, thanks anyway for your answer. I think Linn products suit me more, due to no chromatic coating and cohesive Support both in soft and Hardware.
The color based UI may look nice but is virtually unusable for approximately 10% of population that has some type of color vision deficiency. Luckily there is competition that is smarter about design.
Yeah, have been trying to get my setup right ever since I had to leave the old studio and use my office ☹️ Lighting is much better in the later videos I think 🙂
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As always, you provide a really healthy sense of groundedness in the reviews you give, which are also extremely informative. You qualify things in a way that really instills credence in the statements you make. That's so helpful in what is usually a hyperbolic hobby!
Thanks so much, Jeff! That's exactly what I'm aiming to do. Sometimes a product is hard to not rave about, but there's rarely a truly perfect product.
Thank you for the awesome review I just ordered the Chord Hugo TT2 yesterday to replace my Hugo 2! After my wallet recovers I will eventually get the Hugo M scaler to attach to my Hugo TT2. Again, Great review!
My pleasure, Hadley. Great choice - I think you'll be very happy with the upgrade. Take care of that wallet 😉🤕😉
Yeah ordered the TT2 as well. Need some time to pass by before I can drop another 4-5k on an MScaler ... but damn Rob Watts sells it so damn well ... :)
You're in for a treat. Rob knows what he's talking about so you're just buying the truth and the truth sounds wonderful 🙂
I would point out that roughly 8 percent of men are colorblind, and while I love the whimsical nature of Chord's designs, I personally have a very hard time recognizing the differences between the colors Chord's choices and it causes a bit of anxiety and confusion.
That's a very interesting and important point!
Well, I received Hugo TT2, put it in line, waited for BAT Vk-75 to warm up for 24 hours. Figured out my iPhone connection, getting 24 bit 44.1kHz 96kHz and 192kHz from Apple Music through iPone 13 pro Max. WOW kHz matters. Airplay will only do 16bit 44.1 for now. You were right, I want a M scaler now. Gruuuuuu Oh, I love the color change so you know the kHz. Red for 44.1, green for 96kHz, Blue for 192kHz.Everyone should know that Chord is genius for doing that. Most men have a better visual memory, then reading, then hearing. Thanks
So glad you're liking it! I personally love the coloured indicators too, especially once you get used to the ROYGBIV sequence as you climb sample rates
Wonderful review. Buying it w your own money makes your review really unique as it is neutral. It is better than having the unit sent to you - as listeners we can tell. I am a Chord TT (not TT2) user. I initially did not treasure it as much. Recently I compared it to the topping D90, mytek brooklyn plus, matrix x-sabre pro. I had weeks listening to each dac as they are loaned to me by my friend who is blessed to have the funds to buy whatever equipment he wants. What we learnt is that the Chord is really a very high-end dac. I connect all dacs directly to my active speakers. TT is so resolved, the sound is so energetic yet pleasant and the bass is strong. I remember on one track w the mytek the sound stage is like just left and right. No height. When we swap to the TT, it is apparent that the soundstage has height to it. Soundstage is stable. The matrix xsp is so smooth and the highs are sparkly. The mytek has such a dark background and accurate timbre w good transients - it sounds like I am listening to a record player when playing back an aiff file. But the downside w the mytek is that it is less refined. While mytek brings me to the mixing studio, the Chord clearly brings me to the recording venue itself. The Chord just makes you hear so much details, it paints a high density wall of sound before you - the hallmark of a true high end product. The D90...is ok, not at the same level as the rest. I suspect Chord miscalculated when they launched the TT2 w the mscaler which clearly works as a pair. The pair is just out of reach for most people. I suspect most people won’t be used to the level of detail and resolve the TT2 can bring. It needs the mscaler to make it more listenable. If so, then.. better for me to stick to my battery powered TT. Will be great if one day you can compare the TT to the TT2, and see how much the TT2 has progressed since the TT.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Isaac. I have a friend with the TT. Perhaps he'll lend it to me one day
Managed to get a used TT2 for a price I was happy with. It seems to have been exactly what I was looking for. Holo may was missing something for me. It was a fantastic dac as I mentioned in the comments for another video with HQPlayer. I think the air/clarity the TT2 has is what I've been missing from the May when I had it. I also love that I have top tier filtering outside of HQPlayer as well. Maybe I'm one of the minority that prefers a digital/hifi sound to their music.
On a side note, I read all over that the TT2 can't drive Susvara from its HP out. I'm struggling to understand how this is so widely agreed on since I can listen to it just fine at about -8 on the TT2 and I even sometimes prefer it straight out of the TT2 vs out of the Holo Bliss. I didn't feel like Susvara was lacking anything or struggling with the TT2 at all, it was just a different presentation with the Bliss being a bit warmer with a bigger stage. I'm not really a measurements person by any means (I used to fall for that scam but Bursons gear snapped me out of it, thank you Burson), but sometimes I wonder if headphones really do run into power issues or if it's just really coloration people want and tie it to power. Even thinking of selling the Bliss.
Looking forward to hearing the Calderas at the next canjam near me. Susvara seems evenly balanced and open to me tone wise and not sure if I'll like the Caldera being more weighty/bassy. If you were in the states I'd have happily sent you the Bliss to review.
Thank you SO much for sharing these impressions and, more importantly, trusting your own ears on the sound.
I believe what you're hearing from the TT2 isn't a digital sound, but just clarity. The May is lovely and I get why people like it, but I felt exactly the same as you when I compared it to the TT2.
As for the Susvaras, you're absolutely right that the TT2 handles it fine and that what people ACTUALLY tend to want is a different tonality. For some reason, this myth has been created that the tonality is linked to power, but it's absolutely not. Richness and warmth can be found at any power level just as crispness and attack can too.
I'm so glad you're enjoying the TT2. Congrats on a great purchase.
Another great review ! waiting for Topping A90/D90 review and comparison with competition, hope it will come out soon. :)
Hi Lone Star. Yes, coming soon. I have a few others that need to come first, but I'm testing the A90/D90 combo at the moment in preparation.
Thanks
One of the best reviews out there for the TT2. I recommend Al Jarreau - Your Song and Nat King Cole - Autumn Leaves. These are some of my testing tracks. I got my eyes on the TT2 for a while and it is 4800 USD here in Switzerland. Thing is my girlfriend says I am nuts if I buy it :) so I will have to see...
Thanks for the suggestions and good luck with the TT2!!
Very informative comparison.
Thanks John!
Hello again Passion for Sound. With reference to you talking about the time the TT2 takes to go from rear ports to headphones. I think that might be because you may have your rear output mode in high gain, and your headphones in low gain. or vice-versa. Today on my TT2 for the first time ever, there was no wait. It must be that for the first time, both rear ports and headphones output were in the same gain state.
I just tested further. If you have your TT2 in DAC mode feeding an amplifier, then headphones need to use low gain for no wait. If headphones are in high gain, and TT2 in DAC mode for rear ports, then there is the wait.
Summary: Rear ports = amp mode high gain, headphones = amp mode high gain // no wait to switch to headphones.
Rear ports = amp mode low gain, headphones = amp mode high gain // wait to switch to headphones. (Similarly for vice versa.)
It seems to be only when the DAC changed amp gain mode, that there is a wait.
Rear ports = DAC mode, headphones = amp mode low gain // no wait to switch to headphones.
Rear ports = DAC mode, headphones = amp mode high gain // wait to switch to headphones.
Therefor DAC mode must be low gain.
Hi Three Cats, thanks for your comment and the thorough explanation. I started to discover this myself after the review was done. I'd been tricked by the fact that Rob Watts recommended using the TT2 in high gain because there's a resistor added to the output in low gain to reduce the gain, but I've been consistently on low gain since I discovered what you're describing here. I'd prefer quick switching than a 0.0001% sound quality improvement! 😉
Is there an upgraded version of the TT2 now that this review is 2 years old? I am really keen to listen to the Chord sounds.
Nope, one of the nice things about Chord gear is that they live for a long time before being replaced.
It would be extremely nice if you also had compared Chord Dave to M scaler TT 2 combo. Price wise those are similar options. There is very little comparisons online regarding solo Dave vs MTT2 combo. I had to chose between these two rigs. And oh boy it wasn't an easy decision.
I can imagine that would be a difficult choice. Unfortunately, I can't afford a Dave to do the comparison ☹️
@@PassionforSound Oh so M scaler and TT 2 are your own units ? I thought it some kind of loaner program or review or smth.
No, sometimes I can arrange loans, but most reviews are coming out of my own pocket while I grow the channel. Suppliers tend to want to see big subscriber numbers before they lend expensive gear.
@@PassionforSound Fully understand. If you had lived somewhere in europe I would borrow you Dave for do the review.
Anyway try to do such comparison in the future (maybe some dealer will be interested in loaning a Dave). I know it would be a successful video as many people are considering such switch.
Have a nice listening with MTT2 - it's truly an amazing tech.
That's generous of you. Thanks, Alex! I'll have a chat to the local supplier at some point once I've covered a bit more non-Chord content. 😉
Hello. How do you compare tt2 vs hugo 2 usinig both as a DAC? About soundstage size and layering.
and another question. The XLR output has more volts in comparison to hugo 2 using both as a fixed DAC?
The TT2 is a significant step up from the Hugo 2, but it's been a long time since I compared them so it's hard to describe exactly. My video where I compare the TT2 and Qutest is probably the best reference as the Hugo 2 and Qutest use the same DAC.
As for outputs, yes, the XLR output is 4V and RCA only 2V when using fixed level outputs.
@@PassionforSound and the tt2 is also better in soundstage size and layering in comparison to holo audio may and denafrips terminator ii?
@dynamic-audio I wouldn't say better, but different. I haven't tried the Terminator, but the May and TT2 both offer excellent depth and layering. Where they differ is that the image is a little bit more tight and focussed from the TT2. The May's imaging is a little larger which brings weight and presence to instruments, but might be a touch less accurate in the placement of sounds.
@@PassionforSound Finally I bought hugo tt2. Sounds very good in comparison to the qutest and hugo 2.
I have a question. Do you know where Can I find the Wiring/pinout of the cable to connect by XLR my headphones?
I want to try to build by myself an adapter but I can not find the wiring.
@dynamic-audio the rear XLR outputs are the standard wiring for all XLR interconnects so a quick Google search should get the answers for you. Just try a search like "3-pin XLR wiring diagram"
Sorry for commenting on such an old video. But I am about to buy (used) a TT2 and wanted to see if it's still a good DAC/AMP in todays market? This will be used in my work head-fi setup and I might ad the M scaler down the track. Used only with Roon and a mixture of IEMs and openback (LCD-3's) and closed back Sony Z1R's
I've just sold/selling my Topping/Xduoo DAC/AMPS wanting to go to the 'next level' as I am currently using the Mojo 2 with the Fiio SR11 streamer for Roon
All videos are open for commenting, Steve! 😁
The TT2 is still (IMO) the best bang for buck DAC, headamp and preamp combo on the market. You'll love it!
A few follow on questions please. How well does the Hugo tt2 pair with the ZMF Verity Closed-back and the ZMF Atrium? I am seriously considering the Hugo tt2. My current system is Auris HA2-SE tube amp and D2D dac. How would I connect the tt2 to the amp if I wanted a warmer sound and would it be practical to do so in your opinion. TIA.
The TT2 is great with basically everything IMO (very good with Atrium, VC is good), but if you're enjoying the sound that tubes bring, you can take RCA and XLR out of the TT2 to feed whatever amps you like. 🙂
@@PassionforSound Thanks
Once thing I have come to realize about chord products in general while good are quirky. Each of their products seems to have their own odd quirks. Must be a British thing. Have I missed it or have you done a review of the chord mojo? A more affordable option for your audience. When you start taking the time and adding the mscaller than your getting it chord dac territory. And when your up at this level of price I would be considering the dcs bartok as well. A bit more but is very flexible as a dac, precum, streamer and a great class a heaphone amp. I'm told that dcs just came out with a great version of cross-feed for headphones. Thank you for the terrifc review! I hope your channel continues to grow. Many could learn from your professionalism and concise review style. I do love that you take suggests for tracks for reviewing from you viewer and subscribers!
Thanks Brandon. I'm not sure about the quirkiness, if it's a British thing or just a Chord thing. It creates a mixed experience sometimes with both good and bad, but I think the good wins out.
I owned a Mojo briefly, but didn't want to overdo all the Chord content so I skipped reviewing it. Also, it's quite dated now and while there's no talk of a Mojo 2, I feel like there are more contemporary products to focus on
Im going to ask you for help , i have TT2 and Mscaler, both new by a couple of months, the Mscaler is malfunctioning badly in a few ways mainly cable connections and replay.
So am of course in contact with Choed, in the meantime im using TT2 alone into Lcd5 headphones.
Im unable to understand how you can take it up a notch from 44.1 to next level,
Can anyone give me step by step?
Im on Bnc2 and hi gain -4 for listening.
Im really stuck
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, Anna. Can I ask a few questions?
1) if the M-Scaler isn't being used, how is the TT2 connected to your source?
2) what is your source? (Probably should have asked that first!)
Also, that volume level is extremely high for LCD-5s which suggests either dangerous listening levels (please be careful with your hearing!) or perhaps an issue with the setup, but let's deal with #1 & #2 first.
@@PassionforSound thanks , appreciate this, my source is Rega apollo cdp via coax
I had it connected to mscaler but was finding that if the twin bnc were touched or moved the hugo would cycle through all options of dac amp etc.
Then was getting sound reproduction with a recessed background and weird echo.
So disconnected mscaler, connection is secure with just tt2.
I assume its on hi gain, says so.
Its on blue on volume -4.
I find when i use ferrum oor and hypsos that with 6.35 plug that im really having hard time getting decent volume under 3 oclock so maybe just me.
My hearing is fine and no deafness so i assume its just me.
Chord Anni i use at 2 oclock volume.
Im asking if tt2 has ability without mscaler to play above 44.1 or is mscaler needed for higher resolution
-4
Sorry my error, low gain -4 ,high gain -8
Ok, cool. It sounds like the output level from the CDP is quite low based on the volumes you're requiring on your amps (either that or you have difficult headphones and listen loud).
As for the sample rate, CD will always be at 44.1kHz unless you have a device like the M-Scaler upsampling in between the CDP and TT2. Hope that helps
@@PassionforSound yup, i said before ive got mscaler only its malfunctioning
Sticking an eye on the Qutest siting off camera is a testimony about it's name and power. This is the only thing I'm going to remember about this all thing...
We're talking about 3 times the price between the two : who needs a 2000 € bonus after being smart ? Really.
Btw, the interview with Watts is a great piece of « DAC 2020 Report », thx.
Glad you liked it!
Do you think the Hugo TT 2 would benefit from being paired with a Pass HPA-1 or a SPL Phonitor XE? I'm not super familiar with chord but I'm looking at trialing either a Qutest or a TT 2 soon and am wondering if I should use it standalone or pair it with one of these amps to bring the best out of it. Most people seem to be using them as a standalone?
Hi James, for headphones (speakers mght be different), the TT2 is wonderfully transparent and I'm yet to find anything better as an amp, unless you want specific colouration. With my HD800S, I actually prefer amps like the Bottlehead Mainline and Denafrips Artemis (just reviewed) because of their warmth, but for headphones that don't start bright and analytical, I always choose the TT2. Hope that helps.
@@PassionforSound Thank you for the reply! I see, I'm trying to decide between the Hugo 2 or the Qutest to start before I can upgrade to the TT 2, I've watched a lot of reviews that indicate the Qutest has a nicer sound than the Hugo 2 which from what I've seen hasn't reviewed amazingly. I originally had intended on getting a RME ADI-2 Dac or a Topping D90 then eventually upgrading to a TT2 but after hearing a TT 2 and a Dave a few years ago I'm hooked on Chord and those will be my eventual endgame, but I've had a hard time deciding which to get on my way there.
Unfortunately none of the HiFi shops here have been open all year so I can't really do any exploration with combos and amps on my own.
Yeah, that's tough. I'd personally get Qutest and a decent amp. You could then add the M-Scaler if you're interested (check out my M-Scaler & Qutest video) before finally getting the TT2 to pair with the M-Scaler. Or you could just go from Qutest to TT2 of course with no M-Scaler.
Thanks for the review,but this is really expensive for me,I think I'll go with pro idsd
You're welcome. No doubt it's a huge investment. The Pro iDSD is excellent based on all I've read - haven't yet heard it myself
mmm... A lot more a difference between the Qutest and the TT2 responsible for sound quality, not just the order of the filter. 12th order noise shaper and 2nd analogue noise shaper architecture of the DAC and output stages respectively (with added supercap based PSU) aid a lot, along with the reference circuity from DAVE. It is also a next gen design; the power amp is actually integrated into the pulse array DAC circuit creating what Rob calls the Power Pulse Array architecture. The TT2 is the first power pulse array device in a series of future releases.
BTW, the tonal weight of the TT2 can be really improved upon using the Farad Super3 LPSU; its extremely fast transient response and extremely low noise do so much to complement the amp section of the TT2 and existing PSU, there is a legit audible difference and makes the TT2 sound more authoritative than it already is (that "warmth" and control without the loss of resolution... an improvement in texture actually...).
Thanks for the comment, Rusty. I've had a could of people recommend aftermarket power supplies now. Guess I'd better check one out!
@@PassionforSound I am sure you can ask Mattijs Vries, who is the designer of the Super3, for a loaner or review unit (info@faradpowersupplies.com). I contacted him prior to buying my unit with a barrage of technical q's which he was happy to answer. Helpful guy.
Super3 performance measurement is here: www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/super3-a-supercapacitor-lps-by-farad-power-supplies.29931/
Nice review - I'm going to get a demo sorted :)
Definitely a worthwhile experience. Hope you love it!
Fabulous review. If connecting to another power amp (such as a Rotel for eg), should the volume be maxed on the Rotel and therefore control volume on Chord or vice versa?
Cheers
Hi Sam, that's something you can play with to find out what works best, but normally the TT2 would be used in DAC mode so it provides a fixed output and you'd control volume with your amp.
Thanks. Tried it and it works a treat.
Awesome!
Does having more taps=Longer processing time= Delay in sound when gaming?
The TT2 on its own doesn't create any noticeable lag so I wouldn't worry about that. The M-Scaler does create a lag, but also has a low latency mode that works great with games and movies
So this is probably a dumb question, but how does this compare to the ZMF Pendant amp that I currently have. I am getting an Audeze LCD-5 and I am wondering if it would be worth it to get this.
The Pendant is just an amp whereas the TT2 is DAC and amp so it's hard to compare because you'd need to compare the Pendant being fed by a TT2 as a comparison, otherwise you're comparing the DACs used as much as the amps.
I'm yet to try a Pendant, but I do hope to in the future. That means I can't really help right now other than saying that the TT2 is extremely neutral and transparent. The Pendant will inevitably bring some character to the sound, but that can be a positive. I love the TT2 feeding my Mainline and TU-8200R tube amps so I expect the Pendant would be equally enjoyable
I only need the dac part of the TT without pre-amp, any suggestions? The inputs / outputs of the Hugo 2 look a bit flimsy? How would the Hugo 2 compare with Qutest and Hugo TT?
Hi Tim, the Hugo 2 uses the exact same DAC stage as Qutest so they're pretty interchangeable. I think I recall that the Qutest has galvanic isolation of the USB circuit, but Hugo 2 doesn't, but otherwise they're the same.
I'd probably go for the Qutest unless you need some specific function of the Hugo 2.
@@PassionforSound Thanks for your answer.
Have you found a good BNC to BNC to connect the Hugo TT2 and the M Scaler?
I sure have! Check out my review of the Wave High Fidelity cables and if that's a bit too rich (they are VERY pricey) then sit tight because I'm reviewing the Supra BNC cables soon and Supra tend to make excellent cables at very reasonable prices.
Why is the qutest designed with less taps than tt2? I like the tt2 dac with lots more taps but all the other stuff for headphones/amp is more than I need since I don’t use headphones. Seems I’d be paying for lots more stuff than I need. Seems I want the advanced edition of qutest with more taps but it don’t exist.
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option for a cheaper, DAC only TT2 equivalent.
Any info on the quality of the Chord 2YU & 2GO as a front end?
I haven't tried them yet - sorry
You've also reviewed the Sparkos Aires - what would be more resolving, the TT2 on its own or the Hugo 2 and Aires together? Thank you.
Interesting question and very hard to say without a direct comparison. I think the TT2 would win out due to the simpler signal path, but it would be a close thing I expect.
@@PassionforSound Thanks so much. I'm on the fence between these options. I have a Hugo 2 and love the linear, neutral and somewhat bright quality. I understand the TT2 is a little warmer?
I haven't compared Hugo 2 with TT2 so I can't really say, but I absolutely adore the TT2 - it's amazing. If we talk about the whole picture, the Aries has a pretty flat soundstage (i.e. lacking in depth, not dynamics) whereas the TT2 images wonderfully. I would choose the TT2 amp over the Aries everytime (not a knock on the Aries).
I recommend "My Foolish Heart' by Karen Souza. It's a great version of this classic song.
Thanks Jim! I've added it to my list
Hi there! Sorry for the question but did you notice any audio lag/ delay with just the TT2 without the mscaler when editing or watching movies?
Hi Luis, I don't remember - I'll have to go back and check. Leave it with me...
Just tested this and the TT2 is essentially instant for my needs - no sense of lag in DaVinci Resolve 17
@@PassionforSound Brilliant! Thanks so much.
My pleasure
I don't think this is a pwr amp for passive in anyway or did I hear wrongly?
Hi Andrei, the TT2 can apparently drive sensitive passives using an adapter from the XLR outs. I don't use passives so I couldn't test, but it is possible.
@@PassionforSound I was driving my 88db speakers directly from TT2 xlrs to really loud levels. Definitely this is something to try - transparency was tremendous.
@@PassionforSound do they provide the adapter or sold separately?
It's not included. I'm not sure if Chord sell them or if you have to have them custom made
@@HungryEatNow Chord is not selling them. You have to solder yourself. Or buy 3rd part company.
Does the TT2 have enough power to drive the Susvara well?
Absolutely. I like the Susvara with a slightly fuller sounding amp, but the TT2 has enough power to drive the Susvaras with no stress (assuming you listen at safe levels and don't bump EQ significantly)
Thanks for your reply. As you saw from my other comments on your videos (which I love BTW) I’m trying to decide between TT2 as an all in one vs a Burson or Ferrum dedicated amp and a separate DAC, for same total cost.
No problems. The TT2 is the best DAC I've tried so far and the most transparent amp I've tried so far thanks to the direct connection from DAC to amp stage. The only other setup is personally consider as reaching a similar sonic level is the Holo Audio May and Burson Soloist GT.
If you want an all-in-one then yes, it's still one of the very best options out there.
Hi, is the tt2, compatible with the Innuos Zen source?
I haven't tried them together to know, but the TT2 USB input will work up to 384kHz without drivers on Windows (Wasapi, not ASIO) so I imagine it would work with other devices. Of course, if the Zen outputs optical or coaxial then that will definitely work.
@@PassionforSound Thanks. FYI the Unnuos streamer/servers are all usb connected.
Cool. Thanks for the info. Streamers are a new horizon that I haven't yet arrived at on the channel.
I would be very interested in your opinions about the streamer/server end of the chain. It is a nascent market but exploding. I entered with an entry level Innuos Zen Mini just before Covid hit, and upgraded with a separate power supply and reclocker both subsequently developed by Innuos. They have also developed a router for music streaming. They have many levels of product sophistication beyond the Mini, some at bank account depleting price points. They use their own proprietary software for interface with content providers and also rip/ store CDs as well as purchased down loads from Obitz and HD Tracks. They have a very user friendly and robust library management capability in their software.
I am in the process of upgrading my system and wonder if I should go up their food chain or switch to another provider before I invest.
It may be cost prohibitive for you to go in this direction but providers may want to enter the Australian market and therefore provide loaners. Specifically, Innuos is out of Portugal.
P.S. love your incisive and un-hyped reviews. Would like to hear your opinion of the T+A late entry into the market in competition with the likes of Susvara et. al. and Chord, Holo, and Molo Molo.
Would you say the tt2 headphones amp is a good match for say a hifiman arya and above, or would a burson 3xr gt soloist with a qutest a smarter choice? Mainly regarding the headphone amp part. Is the headphone amp of the tt2 up to spec?
The headphone amp in the TT2 is excellent. It's a very short, direct signal path from the DAC which results in a very transparent sound. So, in terms of quality, is exceptional. In terms of tonality, some will find it too honest and dry for certain headphones because it's not adding any smoothness to the sound.
@@PassionforSound hmm than that could be a good option for me (I hate harsch) but love a clear and clean sound without anything bloated (like bass for example) and as a bonus a even better dac than the qutest. I am a huge fan of jazz and blues
Awesome! I hope you love it
I wanted to thank you again for this great review! My second time watching it! I love my TT2 so much. It is, to me, an end game amp/DAC! One question, will the front outputs of the TT2 be enough for the LCD 55 to really bring out the best of it? Thank you again?
So glad you're enjoying your TT2, Greg. I haven't checked the LCD-5 out yet, but the front outputs of the TT2 drive the Susvaras just fine so the LCD-5 should be no issue
@@PassionforSound Thank you for your time and response. I may actually opt for the Susvaran instead of the LCD 5. It would be great if you could do a comparison video of the Susvara and LCD 5. Thank you again! Your videos are great!
I certainly hope to arrange that video in the future
I spot the d90 a90 combo, please check how much better using the a90 as preamp is opposed to just using the d90 as preamp
Sure thing, Richard! Thanks for the suggestion
Wanna ask about what ZMF lineup that fits well with tt2, i just owned tt2 not long ago coz i came across your channel when looking for tt2 review 😁
That depends a lot on your tastes in sound. It's very hard to go past the Atrium in any situation though
Do you think this would be able to drive an Abyss AB-1266 Phi TC?
It should do just fine, Ronald. The AB-1266 need about 1.6W to get to 120dB. Chord haven't published a wide range of power figures, but based on the 8 ohm numbers, the TT2 should deliver just enough from the single-ended outputs. What I'd probably do though is get a custom cable to connect to the balanced XLR outputs on the back (these cables are readily available). Using the balanced outputs will get you up to more like 3W of power available which is plenty.
@@PassionforSound Thank you so much, i just ordered my 1266 and was thinking of pairing it with this DAC/Amp. I will see how the SE output works and will get the custom cable if need be
That's great, Ronald. The SE output should be fine unless you listen really loud. I hope you love your new setup!
@@PassionforSound Thank you again for your advice and yes i do like listening to it loud so we will see if i need the new cable or not
Does anyone out there know if I can use my iPhone, to my Allo DigiOne Signature, with cable, then to Hugo TT 2 out of the clean board BNC. Or, is it better straight to TT 2 with cable. Problem is my system can here adaptors and I haven't found a high quality cable with USB-B to Lightning. There are good cables with USB-A to lightning or USB-A to USB-C. The DigiOne Signature has two USB 3.0 and two USB 2.0 in. hummmm
I'm no help on this one - sorry
@@PassionforSound Well, I bought a 1M Curious Evolved. I will attach to my MacBook Pro through Audiodquest Carbon extender, usb-a to usb-c. On the A end attach a Audioquest Jitter Bug, then the Curious. I can try with the Jitter Bug or with out. A little testing here. Thanks for all your help. This is old hat stuff to you, but new stuff to me. lol
It's always a journey of exploration! I hope you enjoy the results!
@@PassionforSound Hey, when is the Supra interconnects review coming out for the M Scaler to TT 2? :)
It's still a little way off I'm afraid due to the flood of new products that all came out at the same time. Not too far now, but still a bit of a wait.
Fantastic review! Which USB cable would you recommend to partner with TT2?
I've just recently reviewed the Curious Evolved USB and it really changed my views on USB cables (hard to explain without seeing the review).
I've also got some more affordable USB cables coming up for review soon (early next year)
@@PassionforSound How about the Supra USB cable? Would you do a review pls?
Unfortunately there are no local suppliers. I'll see about getting one from overseas, but I can't promise anything on that one - sorry!
I wonder what the difference is between something like this and a PS Audio Sprout 100.
I need to reach out to PS Audio for some product reviews. Perhaps I'll get the chance to answer you!
Do I need a driver or anything to use this with a Linux computer or is it the same as a Mac?
Very sorry, Jordan - I don't know about Linux. I'm sure you can contact Chord to ask about that though. I don't want to least you astray.
My 3.5mm socket doesn't grab at all like you describe yours. I sometimes used AKG N5005 and they have a tiny jack, which comes out perfectly from the TT2 socket.
You missed some differences between TT2 and Qutest. …..
1. The TT2 is quite a bit more explicit than the Qutest, whereas you said there is just a bit more detail with TT2. (Given the incredible detail level with Qutest though, wow.)
2. Occasionally there is so much reality in presentation with the TT2 that it can sound almost alien. (Whereas the Qutest / Hugo 2 when they do that, they sound 'frighteningly good'.) It's related to that sense of being able to hear so much, that it can actually be unnerving. It doesn't take long to acclimatise to either DAC though. Then it becomes just being laid back with what the DACs do.
3. TT2 transients are faster. This means that e.g. vocals that come in with a 'T' sound can almost make you jump with the TT2. That's when coming from the Qutest, and know music well with its signature. (Meaning with TT2, more of the start of the vocal is heard.)
4. TT2 is more dynamic. In other words, the TT2 leaves the Qutest / Hugo 2 sounding just a little soft. Yet the Hugo 2 / Qutest by themselves are outstanding. Plus having said that, reverting to the Qutest from the TT2, is not a negative experience.
I have driven quality speakers with the TT2, and it's a full and solid sounding DAC with class leading detail.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Three Cats! I totally agree with what you said about the Qutest sounding a bit softer / smoother or even warmer than the TT2. I feel like that's most prominent from the TT2 amp (which we can't use with the Qutest) and is reduced somewhat using external amps with both DACs by the time we lose a little of the transparency and directness of the TT2 onboard amp.
@@PassionforSound Yes it is a shame that the Qutest doesn't have a headphone port. I think Chord Electronics are missing that in their line-up. ( I think they need a desktop mains powered DAC with a headphones port. I know the Hugo 2 has 'desktop mode', but the batteries will eventually wear.) There is nothing priced less than the TT2 that will mains power and have a headphone port. Again, we can go with Hugo 2. However there is no separate volume control between RCA out and headphone out. Leading to headphones getting a blast of RCA volume on occasion.
Some people get around that, but they have to be very careful. They will use software to run files from e.g. a PC, but software that has volume control. Then use the ports out of the Qutest and an adapter to use headphones. Must be extremely careful to have volume down on the software though, or volume will be deafening. Might damage hearing or headphones. Personally I think it's best to play safe and use a headphone amp.
Another great video. Thank you. I commented on your brilliant m scaler review and mentioned reclockers. I currently have a new tt2 on trial and I agree with all the points you made about it’s dac performance in 2 channel Hi-Fi. I was wondering if you found the tt2 more fatiguing than the qutest? I am currently finding it quite edgy over the qutest in my system. As you said perhaps it’s transparency is highlighting a problem in my system but the qutest on its most incisive filter is smoother than the tt2 on its warmest filter and the qutest sounds perfect in my system. Thanks again!
Hi Max, thank you and glad you liked the review! I did some research into the re-clockers and discovered that both the M-Scaler and TT2 both re-clock the signal though I'm not sure how their process compares to the dedicated devices. As for the edginess, I think the TT2 is incredibly transparent and is likely not smoothing off the edges like some other gear might. My experience with the equipment I've had is that it opens the sound more without being at all fatiguing so I think it probably has to do with the headphones / speakers that people use with the TT2. So much of a great system is about the synergy of each device (DAC, amp, spakers/headphones, even interconnects) and that's why there's no such thing as the 'best' of anything - it all depends on the usage
Passion for Sound thank you for the reply. Perhaps my unit requires more running in. You mentioned that your dac was x demo!
The weak chain in my system currently is the streamer so I am going to look into that as an area to investigate next. My other option is to try the m scaler with the Qutest.
With regard to the re clocker in my system I have tried it with and without paired with tbt tt2, and it brings a noticeable up tic in detail and resolution. An essential part of my digital chain.
Thanks again for the superb reviews though, as what others have said it’s a great honest review of their product.
Thanks Max. Sounds like I'll have to try a reclocker at some point. As for the burn-in question, it is possible. What are you driving from the TT2? Headphones, speakers? Which ones?
Passion for Sound hi again, thanks for taking the time to reply to my messages. Really good of you.
I am running
Pmc twenty5.23 speakers
Naim supernait 3 with high cap dr
Allo digione signature steamer with linear power supply
Hugo tt2
Mutec mc3 smart clock
Dedicated mains line to consumer unit
Isol-8 minisub axis power conditioner
Chord company cables
I’ve also got fibre optic patch cable isolating network noise going to the streamer
The balance with the Qutest was perfect, so that’s why I’m surprised the TT2 is struggling to fit in!
Even the 4th filter is currently too hot. I am tempted to run an eq on it in roon!
That's quite a setup, Max. Now that I know you're using speakers I unfortunately don't know what else to suggest because I'm not a speaker guy these days ☹️
The fact that the Qutest sounded just right is curious because I personally didn't notice a huge tonal difference between the two and found that the differences were more about texture and soundstage improvements. You might be right about burn-in perhaps, but I'm not sure - sorry!
Is TT2 with Focal Utopia headphones a worthy combination?
I definitely think so, but only if you know you like the sound of the Utopias
@@PassionforSound Yes of course, it's all personal taste, thank you.
another great track is Pastorale from the Dieter Ilg Album - Mein Beethoven
Thanks for the tip!
I just can't wrap my head around how much is the asking price for Chord gear. Definitely gear towards specific folks and not the average audiophile.
It's like everything in life where there are products at every level - cars, wine, cameras, etc. 🙂
Great review as usual! Couple questions if you've got a minute:
1. What mode did you have the TT2 in when comparing to the Qutest? Just the standard filter?
2. Does that sphere on the front for the volume control roll left to right or how does that work?
Hi Sasha, glad you liked the review. I was using the same filters on both for the comparison - both on the first filter. Because they use the same filtering system this means they were identically setup.
With the volume ball on the TT2 it just rolls left and right like you said 🙂
@@PassionforSound Gotcha, thanks :)
@@PassionforSound Follow on question, do you know how it is for IEMs? Can it get to sufficiently low volumes without channel imbalance? Thanks.
The TT2 is amazing with IEMs (I literally just used it to compare the IE900 and 64Audio U12t). The volume control is fully digital and lossless (i.e. not dropping bits to reduce sound level) so even at the lowest volume it is perfectly balanced and there's a good range before it gets too loud
@@PassionforSound Wow very cool, sounds like a true all-rounder! Yeah I typically worry/wonder about that with digital volume control, never know how it's implemented. Thanks again.
Excellent review as always. But I’m even really stuck now!
I’ve been looking into a desktop only DAC/HPA combo and not sure whether to go with:
Chord Qutest + third party HPA (maybe A90 or benchmark HPA4)?
Chord Hugo 2 (just not a fan of it as a desktop only solution)
Or just going all out and getting a TT2...
I'd say go for either the TT2 (it's one of the very best all-in-ones you'll ever find) or the Qutest and the Burson Soloist 3X amp.
@@PassionforSound thanks! I think TT2 it is then! Going to be a very expensive Christmas...
It sure will, but you won't regret it I think!
what % of the performance of the DAVE do you get with this bad boy? havent heard a comparison between the two. the DAVE is just incredibly realistic and the imaging was just insane.
Hi Edward, I haven't compared them side by side, but the Dave has a different character based on my brief listens. It's more transparent and has a more delicate touch.
I own the TT2 it is more organic sounding than the Dave, Dave is more analytical.
For only headphone listening the TT2 is the way to go, as DAC only better get the Dave.
Thanks for the input, Brice!
I would say that that although more delicate, the Dave shows more heaviness in the notes, especially for acoustic string instruments
That's an excellent point. More articulation/attack on leading edges, but it also captures the resonance and harmonics better to reproduce weight and presence where it should be
Some odd track choices: with speaking words, like Giorgio by Moroder or The Grid by Daft Punk. Silent Night from Simon and Garfunkel.
Thanks for the suggestions, XQ!
Hi, I noticed you'd seen my comment / query to Bill; I know what you've described in your very good review; I have a great system which has taken me approx' 30 years of being into HiFi (listed below my message) and my scenario so you have more idea of the level of revelance etc. Unfortunately I had a MX (Motocross, or Scrambles as it used to be called) accident many years ago which left me a Tetraplegia C4/5 - paralysed from my chest down - I have a very limited time up in my 'chair (currently 5 hours which = 19 hours a day in my bedroom!, 7 to 10 of which are spent listening to music!)... as you can hopefully appreciate / understand, my HiFi / Music are literally my everything and main enjoyment in my life! Can you please advise me if you think this (Hugo TT2) brings quite a bit more / enough to the table over the Qutest (which I already have) when used only as a DAC to make it worth the purchase? (I've seen some go for 3K).
"Thanks!" in advance. All the best, Simon.
My system (taken me approx' 30yrs to get to via demo's, buying / selling, deals etc!):
Naim HDX (2TB - This is truly SO good for me because I cannot physically use a standard remote control, but with environmental controls I can use it in virtually the same way; When I had it in 2013, it was the first time since 1989 that I could interact (myself) with my entire CD collection!).
Naim XPS Power supply.
Musical Fidelity Nu-Vista 800 Amplifier (Tuned further by John Sampson - HIGHLY recommended, from an already great Amp’ to a superb Amp’ IMO!)...
Those three components are plugged into a Russ Andrews X4 Block (which was a good improvement) each using an Atlas EOS 4DD UK Mains Power Cable.
Kef Reference 1 'speakers.
Chord Electronics Qutest DAC (plugged into standard wall socket).
Chord Company Sarum Super Aray (not the latest version) interconnects & SignatureXL ‘speaker cable.
Thanks for the details about your system! I definitely think the TT2 is a clear step up from the Qutest. It's got a slightly drier sound than the Qutest so take that into account, but I do think it's a worthy upgrade.
The other DAC in a similar price range that might be worth considering is the Holo Audio May KTE. I would choose that if you want a slightly richer sounding DAC (very slightly smoother than the Qutest, but better detail, space, etc.) or stick with Chord and go with the TT2 if your system will suit about a 1-2% drier sound (it's only a very subtle shift)
@@PassionforSound Thanks so much for your advice; Being as it has a bit of a warmer / richer sound already (I think mostly down to the Naim units), it sounds like the TT2 may be the way to go / try then! Thanks again... all the best, Simon.
Fantastic! You're in for a treat I think 🙂
Great review. I think you’re in Melbourne? If you were looking for content I have several high end items I’d be happy to lend to you. I’m in Prahran. Cheers.
Hi Tim, that's great - thank you! I am in Melbourne, but I also am currently swamped with gear all the way through to April. Perhaps after that we can chat though? Would you like to email me at passionforsound@lachlanfennen.com? Perhaps we can arrange something later in the year and I'm always happy to offer a counter loan if I have products to spare that are of interest. 🙂
A friend of mine told me that he’s had the TT2 and he found it very “tiring”, because maybe too detailed and not so musical. Would you agree with that?
I think the TT2 without the M-Scaler could potentially be perceived that way, but it also depends a lot on the headphones being used with it. The Qutest and a nice amp like the Singxer SA-1 (good) or Burson Soloist (better) might be a little more forgiving, but the TT2 is better given suitable headphones
Does anyone have a quarter-inch to 4-pin XLR adapter they really like?
The one I just bought from Aurealis here in Australia is great! Uses Amphenol connectors which I like more than Neutrik (for look and feel, no sound difference)
@@PassionforSound thanks for the quick response. I've got a TT 2 on the way and I'm in the same boat, all my previous amps have offered 4-pin XLR. I'm not eager to replace all my cables with single ended but I also hate the idea of adding another connection when the point of the TT 2 is to have as direct a signal path as possible.
I've always valued separates as well but I'm excited to have a simple desktop solution (with some tube power on the side for fun ;)
Great review. Enjoyed you M Scaler one as well. That thing still seems like black magic but everyone seems to agree that it does work.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks Adrian. Check out the review dropping in a few minutes - I've tried to properly explain what the M-Scaler does without using jargon.
Sounds like you've got a very similar setup to me as I have the Mainline for my tubey goodness.
@@PassionforSound will do! Yes, I've got a Decware Taboo for my headphone tube power and a few Bottlehead components in my other setups.
Nice!!
Is that an Aurealis adapter?
Yes, as a matter of fact it is! 😁
Passion for Sound yeah, I had one made recently too, but with Furutech plugs. Geoff’s work is amazing
Yeah. His cables are outstanding
M Scaler +Qutest ?
Hi Rafael, yes. I reviewed this in my separate review on exactly this combination. ruclips.net/video/34p6BbHtEKU/видео.html
@@PassionforSound Thank you so much.
Fungsi hugo tt2 itu untuk apa?
TT2 is a DAC and headphone amp
A90 was on my shortlist for my ongoing amp stage conundrum for the desktop headphone rig (Hugo2 amp stage just lacks something comapred to when I line out to a headphone amp) , but after watching this - arrgghh come on man now I just wanna spend mega again and get the TT2 . What are you doing to me lol.
Haha - sorry!! Hold off until I review the A90 (coming in the next few weeks). I might save you some cash (although I can tell you that the A90 is not as good as the TT2 amp stage. ;)
I will have to agree the 3.5 headphone output feels pretty bad for both in and out, therefore I mainly use the 6.3 output.
Glad it's not just me. Thanks for confirming!
@@PassionforSound You're welcome, and in the video you mentioned that the tt2 is really transparent and some people might find too clean, I'm also agree on that, I'm using 800s and d9200 with my tt2, my 800s often sound a bit lean with tt2, but I purchased a naim uniti core as my source recently, the warm and musical signature sound from naim fixed the issue, now it sounds really good!
Glad to hear you found a good solution. I used my tube amps to help sweeten the 800S in the same way.
Video starts at 21:09 😃 ( Sound )
Did I not put the time stamps on this one? Might have been before I started doing that on all vids
How much better than a D90 for us povs
Hi Barry, I'll be able to provide that comparison in a few weeks' time once I've done some thorough listening to the D90. In short, the D90 is very good, but the TT2 is still clearly better. If the TT2 is a 9/10, the D90 is probably a 7/10 or maybe 7.5. I'll provide thorough descriptions of what's different when I post the D90 review
@@PassionforSound excellent, look forward to it, cheers
Dam I was hoping it was gonna be given away
Haha. I'd love to be in a position to do that level giveaway. Maybe one day...
Does it feel sticky and grabby lol
LOL. When you put it that way...
Lol funny combo of words. Great review by the way. It was very helpful and informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Well the color coding is a pain when you‘re color blind...
2nd, this is an expensive unit, if I am just looking for a DAC I would pay a lot for the headphone section I don’t use.
3rd, their products are not upgradable so if you have a TT from 2017, no chance to upgrade the hardware to an to a TT2 for instance.
I agree about the colour coding. In practice though, the colours aren't that important unless you're regularly switching sources and the auto source selection can take care of that.
Upgradability is very rare in audio. There are a few brands like Schiit and PS Audio that do allow for hardware or firmware upgrades, but it's not the norm.
As for paying for the amp that you won't use, I do agree to a point, but keep in mind that the same output stage is used for the DAC, pre-amp and headphone outputs (with some very minimal componentry added) so you're paying for a high quality output stage first and foremost that just happens to be versatile enough to drive multiple output types.
If it's not a good fit for you, that's ok - I'm not trying to sell TT2s - I just like to explain things for others who might read this.
@@PassionforSound, thanks anyway for your answer. I think Linn products suit me more, due to no chromatic coating and cohesive Support both in soft and Hardware.
All good. It's all about finding what best suits you. Enjoy the music!
The color based UI may look nice but is virtually unusable for approximately 10% of population that has some type of color vision deficiency. Luckily there is competition that is smarter about design.
That's a very good point!
Here is a review: ruclips.net/video/N3E16H_-T_o/видео.html
Lots of info but would be great if you would slow down a bit. speaking too fast.
There was a lot to cover in this one and I get just as many people complaining that I take too long/speak too slow. Sorry!
The right side of the guys face is straight purple. Very distracting.
Yeah, have been trying to get my setup right ever since I had to leave the old studio and use my office ☹️ Lighting is much better in the later videos I think 🙂
Boring review.