Glad I stumbled upon this video. I saw a beautiful parka from tnf on eBay and it was from overseas Japan. For some reason the summit series tag looked off to me. I compared it to a few north face jackets I have and the sleeve comparison you mention. Long story short I didn’t buy it as that jacket had a tight sleeve summit series tag. Tried to ask the flag ship north face store but they didn’t know anything. Definitely do research
They’ve gotten better at making fake North Face items.. for me.. the smell out of whatever box you open after getting it in the mail from places like eBay or Amazon; is a dead give away. If the item has a strong chemical/factory type smell it’s not the real thing. Once you smell the smell of Chinese factory you never forget it and it’s identical across the board… the smell I mean.. it’s not like gasoline smell.. hard to describe. It’s like sour glue, fresh nylons, and clothing dye. North face items do have a sort of chemical smell but this will hit you in the face. It’s something you know if you put on without washing it’s guarantee carcinogenic.
just bought one of these jackets and i have my summit series logo on the right, because there is a side pocket with zip on the left. also have a goretex logo on the left wrist. goretex performance shell tag on the right hip. the etiquette inside doesn’t have the men/hommes that i usually see on my tnfs but it has this excess tag under the summit series, 100. haven’t used it at all im still on the process of checking all the tiny details. If you can tell by my description of its profoundness thank you in advance
A floor up to last post based on your video not all jackets have the summit series logo on the LEFT sleeve solely. The north face Met 5 battery operated jacket they released has the summit series logo on the RIGHT sleeves and I’ve concurred with some other collectors that some jackets have the logo on either side
You're right, and as I've mentioned in other comments there are Asian market jackets that have the summit logo on the right. TNF might also be producing newer models with summit logo on both left and right. My tip mostly applies to North American and euro market jackets from the 90s-2010's
Not really a question of age. Like I've mentioned in other comments a small segment of TNF is made for Asian market. These Korean made jackets often have summit series on the right.
@@vintagethrift5147you don’t say. i was in denial because i’ve paid RM230 which about $53 and the summit series logo is on the right hand. Then i checked the tag is in Korean which relieves me
I bought a child’s summit series jacket and it doesn’t have a logo on the arm at all. Is it possible it is authentic without an arm logo? Everything else seems to look authentic
Both are not actually original per se... One is a high class 1st copy(with higher level of perfection to detail) , while the other is a "budget" option. Those who have been to Asia and in particular Nepal, will understand. The seller, outright tells you while selling, quoting which is "original", 1st copy and a budget option.
@@vintagethrift5147 I Purchased a pre owned Summit series 700 online i few days back i washed it yesterday and all the north face writings came off completely is it normal? Or have i got a fake?
@@vintagethrift5147 I recently found out it was manufactured in 2010 from the tags plus i got it for less than 10$ I got it confirmed it is original. Thanks for the Help.
What you say about the Summit series is not correct. The earlier original jackets did not have the red Summit Series logo on the arm. For example the Arctic Baltoro 600 and the 800 Baltoro expedition did not have them. The similar 700 Himalaya and later Baltoro models began having the red logo. Also some models have logos on both arms, including of course the back shoulder. Plus all the original legitimate jackets have a North Face retail number and partial date of manufacture.
What I say applies for the majority of jackets. The colour of the summit series logo is irrelevant. I spoke of placement and quality of stitching on the logo itself. There are no jackets to my knowledge that have summit series on the back, it's only on the arm.
@@vintagethrift5147 You are not understanding what I said. Firstly, I am saying there is NO summit logo on the arms of earlier jackets. Also when I said 'logos' on arms and back I was referring to the North Face wording logo (on back) and other logos on the arms depending on each model. The main thing is that it is certainly not true that all summit series have the Summit logo on the arms, so that part of your video is completely misleading for people buying true original Summit models.
Hello, I have some concerns about a North Face Denali Jacket I purchased second hand. The embroidered logo has some connection points. However, it has ykk zippers w/ the logo attached to the main zipper, the buttons on the wrist say the north face and it has a hologram tag. Do you think it’s fake? Thanks
Hi! The connected lines aren't an automatic giveaway that the item is a fake. Only when there are other factors present. If you send pics to my Instagram @vintagethrift514 I can help you out. Thanks ✌🏼
Hi, i used to own a mcmurdo parka (1st gent) and recently bought a new one (which supposed to be the old one as well not II or III).And there are a few different things on them ,such as the filling label on the right arm "550".The old one does not have it for example. Do you think that its normal? i know sometimes they change a few things year by year. Thanks in advance!
I have a summit series on the right arm too, with a avalanche beacon thing sewn in to the arm, I don't know about this guy, I'm looking at his video sideways
Very hard to tell the difference, I guess the best you can do is to buy directly from the company in person or online if you want to make sure you are getting the real thing.
The real one is a mid 90s jacket and while the embroidery is connected, it is crisp and the lettering is almost 👌🏼 the bootleg version is connected as well but the lettering is crooked and not well done at all.
This video is full of lots of false info, loads of legit north face has connected stitching, the technology back than could only achieve that, I've also seen legit jackets with size errors on the label but they are quite rare. A bigger clue on the size tag would be the spelling mistakes in french, it should say "duvet d'oie" not "duvet d'ole" You cannot even see these label errors on your video but I know that label very well. The summit series logo can actually be on either arm so that's another fallacy, plenty of legit Asian summit series pieces have the logo on the right arm. I do legit checks all day long on north face talk.
First off, thank you for checking out the video and for your comment. 1) In regards to the embroidery being connected. I do have some older TNF pieces that have connected embroidery, although the lettering is flawless. However, connected embroidery on the front or back logo is not something you should see on jacket made in the past 15 years or so. 2) Size errors do occur although extremely rare. It is meant to be used in conjunction with other clues to better authenticate a jacket. Thank you for the French tip. 3) In all my experience looking at TNF jackets, every jacket that had the summit series logo on the right, also had other inconsistencies and was determined to be a bootleg. I have tried to find the Asian market summit series jackets you mentioned but haven't been able to do so successfully. If you have examples of any, it would be great if you could send them my way so I could better familiarize myself. All in all, when you use multiple clues together, you can get a pretty good idea of whether a jacket is legit or not. I wouldn't and didn't suggest for anyone to use one clue and call it a day. These tips are best used with as much information as possible.
@@vintagethrift5147 could be that Mr Hs shits are all fake? lol " technology back then" embroidery dates back to the BC/AD ages. For a fact newer TNF jackets such as the Retro 1990 mountain jackets (Made in Vietnam) and 1994 Mountain Light Futurelights (Made in Bangladesh) DO NOT have connected embroidery. As for older vintage jackets Mr H should enlighten us all on when TNF made the transition from connected embroidery to separate lettering embroidery. BUT Mr H might be correct, as I have seen countless vintage mountain jackets 90'/94's that DO have that connected embroidery. Either way I would like to see an educational video from someone discussing this embroidery difference (Vintage vs Newer Retro gear).
Very misleading vid. Your “tips” may work on a few jackets made in the last few years but otherwise false info. Knowledge up before spotting “knowledge”
Very misleading comment. The jacket I used to represent the bootleg is an older model and the legit jacket is from 2011. All my tips are completely relevant. Both with older and newer models. Would you care to share any "knowledge" in suggesting I knowledge up? Edit: I do have to say though, I appreciate you watching the video.
@RIVOLC45 My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 27, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your rap video gave me cancer anyway.
Glad I stumbled upon this video. I saw a beautiful parka from tnf on eBay and it was from overseas Japan. For some reason the summit series tag looked off to me. I compared it to a few north face jackets I have and the sleeve comparison you mention.
Long story short I didn’t buy it as that jacket had a tight sleeve summit series tag. Tried to ask the flag ship north face store but they didn’t know anything.
Definitely do research
They’ve gotten better at making fake North Face items.. for me.. the smell out of whatever box you open after getting it in the mail from places like eBay or Amazon; is a dead give away. If the item has a strong chemical/factory type smell it’s not the real thing. Once you smell the smell of Chinese factory you never forget it and it’s identical across the board… the smell I mean.. it’s not like gasoline smell.. hard to describe. It’s like sour glue, fresh nylons, and clothing dye. North face items do have a sort of chemical smell but this will hit you in the face. It’s something you know if you put on without washing it’s guarantee carcinogenic.
Thank you for that extra tip.
just bought one of these jackets and i have my summit series logo on the right, because there is a side pocket with zip on the left. also have a goretex logo on the left wrist. goretex performance shell tag on the right hip. the etiquette inside doesn’t have the men/hommes that i usually see on my tnfs but it has this excess tag under the summit series, 100. haven’t used it at all im still on the process of checking all the tiny details. If you can tell by my description of its profoundness thank you in advance
Thanks sir, gonna show this too my Indonesian mate
A floor up to last post based on your video not all jackets have the summit series logo on the LEFT sleeve solely.
The north face Met 5 battery operated jacket they released has the summit series logo on the RIGHT sleeves and I’ve concurred with some other collectors that some jackets have the logo on either side
You're right, and as I've mentioned in other comments there are Asian market jackets that have the summit logo on the right. TNF might also be producing newer models with summit logo on both left and right. My tip mostly applies to North American and euro market jackets from the 90s-2010's
Nice bro.. here in Indonesia to much fake TNF from China, it's so difficult to show the different...
do you know from where i can buy fake one online
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What about vintage summit series? They nearly all have the logo on the right arm
Not really a question of age. Like I've mentioned in other comments a small segment of TNF is made for Asian market. These Korean made jackets often have summit series on the right.
@@vintagethrift5147you don’t say. i was in denial because i’ve paid RM230 which about $53 and the summit series logo is on the right hand. Then i checked the tag is in Korean which relieves me
I had one summit serie on right arm, only thing seem fake is no Hologram, It is very good quality
The original Baltoro jacket had the Summit Series logo on the right sleeve, so this video is wrong
the summit series can be on the right arm for the Baltoro Windstopper 700
The summit series logo can be on the right arm but only for a select few pieces that were made for the Korean market.
I got a nice one on Amazon with a white northface tag at the bottom right side. Is that fake? No logo on chest area
I bought a child’s summit series jacket and it doesn’t have a logo on the arm at all. Is it possible it is authentic without an arm logo? Everything else seems to look authentic
Both are not actually original per se... One is a high class 1st copy(with higher level of perfection to detail) , while the other is a "budget" option. Those who have been to Asia and in particular Nepal, will understand. The seller, outright tells you while selling, quoting which is "original", 1st copy and a budget option.
Not sure what you mean at all. One was original from North Face store, other one is a bootleg.
The original Baltoro Summit Series jackets had the SS logo on the right sleeve
Yes correct and most Korean market summit series. Which is why the vast majority of fakes have it on the right I guess. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the detailed video !!!
Thank you for watching!
How to check serial number on tag in TNF website?
Did you figure it out? I need to check mine
Thank you very much sir
I bought the TNF gore tex summit blue and black series like that for USD.20
Do fake north face actually use goose down or some other cheaper fill and insulation material inside?
The summit series is also printed inside the lining of the jacket all over inside
For the jacket in the video that is true but it's not the case for all summit series pieces.
@@vintagethrift5147 I Purchased a pre owned Summit series 700 online i few days back i washed it yesterday and all the north face writings came off completely is it normal? Or have i got a fake?
It does have all the Original Tags stitched to the jacket and the Original North face hologram is attached to it kinda weird
@@LastOne. I'd have to take a look at pics to be able to make a better judgement but it's normal for inner tags to wash out after several years.
@@vintagethrift5147 I recently found out it was manufactured in 2010 from the tags plus i got it for less than 10$ I got it confirmed it is original. Thanks for the Help.
What you say about the Summit series is not correct. The earlier original jackets did not have the red Summit Series logo on the arm. For example the Arctic Baltoro 600 and the 800 Baltoro expedition did not have them. The similar 700 Himalaya and later Baltoro models began having the red logo.
Also some models have logos on both arms, including of course the back shoulder.
Plus all the original legitimate jackets have a North Face retail number and partial date of manufacture.
What I say applies for the majority of jackets. The colour of the summit series logo is irrelevant. I spoke of placement and quality of stitching on the logo itself. There are no jackets to my knowledge that have summit series on the back, it's only on the arm.
@@vintagethrift5147 You are not understanding what I said. Firstly, I am saying there is NO summit logo on the arms of earlier jackets.
Also when I said 'logos' on arms and back I was referring to the North Face wording logo (on back) and other logos on the arms depending on each model. The main thing is that it is certainly not true that all summit series have the Summit logo on the arms, so that part of your video is completely misleading for people buying true original Summit models.
See the inside logo at the neck does the "r" have to be there for it to be legit. Coz mines has everything expect that r
Would anyone be able to help me determine whether the 1996 nuptse I ordered is real or fake?
Hello, I have some concerns about a North Face Denali Jacket I purchased second hand. The embroidered logo has some connection points. However, it has ykk zippers w/ the logo attached to the main zipper, the buttons on the wrist say the north face and it has a hologram tag. Do you think it’s fake? Thanks
Hi! The connected lines aren't an automatic giveaway that the item is a fake. Only when there are other factors present. If you send pics to my Instagram @vintagethrift514 I can help you out. Thanks ✌🏼
Wow, these fakes are getting better and better
Hi, i used to own a mcmurdo parka (1st gent) and recently bought a new one (which supposed to be the old one as well not II or III).And there are a few different things on them ,such as the filling label on the right arm "550".The old one does not have it for example.
Do you think that its normal? i know sometimes they change a few things year by year. Thanks in advance!
Hi! Yes this is completely normal as from year to year they might make slight changes on the same model.
I have a summit series gore-tex from the 90's and the patch is on the right side. So that means it's fake?
I have a summit series on the right arm too, with a avalanche beacon thing sewn in to the arm, I don't know about this guy, I'm looking at his video sideways
There a few jackets made for the Asian market (Korea) that have the logo on the right arm.
Thank you
Does anyone know when the hologram tag was first used
If you mean the one by the hip tags, it seems to be mid to late 2000's
Good question! I need know too.
Great tips
does the gore tex waterproof work? or not true gore tex
Goretex on the fakes in my experience does not work because I'm assuming they don't use actual Goretex.
Very hard to tell the difference, I guess the best you can do is to buy directly from the company in person or online if you want to make sure you are getting the real thing.
hardly any difference because they probably fell off an official truck and was sold as fake anyway
Nicely done.
Helpful!
Thank you!
Blue is fake? And black is true
Yes exactly!
How much cost fake one
are the fake ones still warm
Not if you paid full price
both embroidered front logos look low quality to me
The real one is a mid 90s jacket and while the embroidery is connected, it is crisp and the lettering is almost 👌🏼 the bootleg version is connected as well but the lettering is crooked and not well done at all.
Fake summit logo looks better than a real one. Amazing
Zipper ykk original or fake?
North face uses ykk zippers
This video is full of lots of false info, loads of legit north face has connected stitching, the technology back than could only achieve that, I've also seen legit jackets with size errors on the label but they are quite rare.
A bigger clue on the size tag would be the spelling mistakes in french, it should say "duvet d'oie" not "duvet d'ole"
You cannot even see these label errors on your video but I know that label very well.
The summit series logo can actually be on either arm so that's another fallacy, plenty of legit Asian summit series pieces have the logo on the right arm.
I do legit checks all day long on north face talk.
First off, thank you for checking out the video and for your comment.
1) In regards to the embroidery being connected. I do have some older TNF pieces that have connected embroidery, although the lettering is flawless. However, connected embroidery on the front or back logo is not something you should see on jacket made in the past 15 years or so.
2) Size errors do occur although extremely rare. It is meant to be used in conjunction with other clues to better authenticate a jacket. Thank you for the French tip.
3) In all my experience looking at TNF jackets, every jacket that had the summit series logo on the right, also had other inconsistencies and was determined to be a bootleg. I have tried to find the Asian market summit series jackets you mentioned but haven't been able to do so successfully. If you have examples of any, it would be great if you could send them my way so I could better familiarize myself.
All in all, when you use multiple clues together, you can get a pretty good idea of whether a jacket is legit or not. I wouldn't and didn't suggest for anyone to use one clue and call it a day. These tips are best used with as much information as possible.
@@vintagethrift5147 could be that Mr Hs shits are all fake? lol " technology back then" embroidery dates back to the BC/AD ages. For a fact newer TNF jackets such as the Retro 1990 mountain jackets (Made in Vietnam) and 1994 Mountain Light Futurelights (Made in Bangladesh) DO NOT have connected embroidery. As for older vintage jackets Mr H should enlighten us all on when TNF made the transition from connected embroidery to separate lettering embroidery. BUT Mr H might be correct, as I have seen countless vintage mountain jackets 90'/94's that DO have that connected embroidery. Either way I would like to see an educational video from someone discussing this embroidery difference (Vintage vs Newer Retro gear).
You make my lc?
Very misleading vid. Your “tips” may work on a few jackets made in the last few years but otherwise false info. Knowledge up before spotting “knowledge”
Very misleading comment. The jacket I used to represent the bootleg is an older model and the legit jacket is from 2011. All my tips are completely relevant. Both with older and newer models. Would you care to share any "knowledge" in suggesting I knowledge up?
Edit: I do have to say though, I appreciate you watching the video.
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Ba Ha dude fuck off, don’t hate on this guy, atleast he is raised well and you’re just jealous that he got active subs