How To Smooth 3D Printed Polypropylene!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- The nice people at @DyeMansion showed us how they can now smooth Polypropylene parts when we visited their booth at @Formnext! It's crazy to think, since Polypropylene is so resistant to chemicals. This was a treat to see in person, and it's always great to chat with Pia!
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Thank you for your visit! As always, it was a great pleasure to have you at our booth. We are already looking forward to next year! 🤩
I always look forward to Joel's visits with you guys. NOBODY ever wants to talk about the elephant in the room with 3D printing, post processing sucks. You guys don't just talk about it, wrangling that beast is your business & you guys never cease to amaze us with what you have to share each year.
Wow, those are some pretty practical Powerfuse post-processed Polypropylene printed parts!
that's 10 Ps in one sentence - not bad!
Impressive!
Your PP... it's so smooth! 🤣
This seems really cool, wish they gave some more information about how it all works. Are you just chemically altering, or adding/removing material? Will it affect tolerances?
Our VaporFuse Surfacing process produces an even more uniform surface by rearranging the surface topology without adding or removing material. As a result, the part feels even smoother after the VFS process and has a glossy and sealed surface, even for TPU parts - or as in this case: PP.
Probably pretty proprietary chemicals and physics they use in the powerfuse post-processing for printed polypropylene parts. Either thats a well guarded trade secret, or you can go find out quite a lot more details in the public patent applications if they actually patented the process.
What a lovely lady, and some truly interesting tech. I assume it's not consumer level stuff.
Thanks for the compliments, we will pass them on to Pia & also our product development and R&D team! The applications that are made possible by this are definitely also consumer goods. However, the system itself is probably more relevant for 3D printing service providers or OEMs - except you have enough space at home ;)
@@DyeMansion Space is one thing I have little of sadly.
Very neat. Would have liked to have seen the process.
We will be working with them on this! Perhaps a visit to a facility next year :)
Visit our channel to learn more! ;) you'll find a lot of information on the process behind VaporFuse Surfacing!
I second this, I kept waiting for something about what the process is. Another video will be great, but I wish there had been at least a *little* more info here :-/ (But great info all the same, I’m enjoying all the material you’ve been bringing from FormNext :-)
I keep hearing that polypropylene is hard to print with, but I found it even easier than PLA, used PLA settings, cold bed, slightly hotter nozzle, slapped some packing tape on the bed for adhesion, and it printed beautifully.
In industrial 3D printing (powder bed fusion), PP printing is picking up speed. The hurdles you mentioned have already been overcome in this area.
The PP whisperer
Cool stuff. Well done; both were fun and pleasant. 🙂👍
Thank you!
as joel sanitizes his hand and face, "nothing in the Vase, just some PP"
Excuse me, but it’s smooth PP!
Smooth PP 🤣🤣🤣
I was hoping for a little more about how the process worked, even if it used chemicals unavailable to consumers.
So, after a bit of digging I found that AMT Technologies has a patent pending process for smoothing Ricoh branded polypropylene that they use in a sintering printer, not FDM.
The white paper had nothing about the process, other than it is vapor chemical smoothing but they did have test results.
In other words, nobody is talking until the patent gets approved.
We didn't get to see the process at the show - but are working on visiting one of their locations to see it. Hopefully next year!
That's unfortunate. It sounds exciting to be able to smooth PP. Even so, thanks for sharing what you could with us. This is definitely something to keep an eye on.
We have our own patents for our processes & our technology that have nothing to do with the above. For more details about our process, feel free to visit our channel! In addition it's to say that we don´t use any harmful hydrocarbons or halogenated substances (like xylene) in our processes due to their hazardous properties! Instead, we use a green solution, which is biobased and biodegradable. Our sustainable VaporFuse VF44 EcoFluid PP is 100% bio-based and readily biodegradable as well as non-toxic: no PFAS, non-CMR, non-vPvM/PMT.
@@DyeMansion Thank you for the additional info. The brochure about your smoothing technology describes impressive technology. The smoothing of PP while being bio-friendly is impressive and the color tech described is even more impressive. I really hope that there's potential for the smoothing process to reach the hobbyist market. It would be a great opportunity to be able to have a cottage industry develop from it that could provide food safe PP containers.
Smooth AF lol
Great team over at @DyeMansion !
SMOOTH PP. lol. I'm such a child.
How to - TCB " 1,2,4-trichlorobenzene" apparently, but no idea where you would buy it and how difficult it would be to use - I think high temperatures are also required.
She's a killa. I really llike to know more about the smooothing process, but I also just want to look at her for a couple more hours. I guess I have to get a chair and a ticket to the next Formnext.
I can tell you we are looking to travel to a DyeMansion site and learn more about the process itself!
Missed title opportunity "how to smooth your pp"
Super cool, but what is the chemistry of the smoothing process ?
To learn more about the VaporFuse Surfacing process, please visit our channel or our website. There you'll find a lot of informations on the process.
A simple web search show that xylene (among a few other solvents) will dissolve polypropylene. So it may be a vapor-smoothing process using xylene.
We don´t use any harmful hydrocarbons or halogenated substances (like xylene) in our processes due to their hazardous properties! Instead, we use a green solution, which is biobased and biodegradable. Our sustainable VaporFuse VF44 EcoFluid PP is 100% bio-based and readily biodegradable as well as non-toxic: no PFAS, non-CMR, non-vPvM/PMT.
Xylene is not halogenated.
Smooth pp 😂
Man, how cute wasn't she 😍😂
Probably married to the CTO by now 😂
Ahaha smooth pp
Big PP? Smol PP? At Powerfuse we treat your PP right.
I'd be interested to know what print technology is printing these parts.
PowderBedFusion 😊
So, what exactly is the process?
To learn more about the VaporFuse Surfacing process, please visit our channel or our website. There you'll find a lot of informations on the process.
I thought this video could show me how to smooth Polypropylene plastic but it just a demonstration of a product, title should be changed, although it is kind of interesting to know what solvents they use to smooth that particular material. Can't be Xylene because its too hazardous, might be Tetralin or Decalin?
Joel, please fix your title. This did not show how to smooth it. It showed the results of smoothing. Saying to take it to a specific company does not count.
“Smooth pp”….
😅
Brilliant stuff - although I'm not sure a Voronoi-style hand-sanitiser bottle is really understanding how germs work on, erm, complex surfaces... LOL
We chose this sample part to show that we can smooth even complex structures. But the best part is that the sealed surface minimizes bacteria growth - since bacteria grow and persist better on raw, untreated surfaces. Also the inside of this liquid container is completely sealed. Another benefit: the sealed surface adds a highly increased liquid repellency for fluid transporting applications!
@@DyeMansion Thanks for replying - that's cool to know :)
First comment. ❤️. I also have a 3d printing firm here in Bangladesh. Your videos really help to build my knowledge.
The title of this video is misleading because nowhere in this video does it tell me how to smooth poly prop
Gostei da matéria
You didn't tell us how the process works
... not that we had a chance of replicating it
We will be doing a deeper dive into the tech in the near future :)
@@3DPrintingNerd Huzzah!
In addition, to learn more about the VaporFuse Surfacing process, please visit our channel or our website. There you'll find a lot of informations on the process.
3d printing nerd is no nerd…he’s cool!
You should never put hand sanitizer on your face. The skin will be irritated and dry. Also very close to sensitive orifices.
I know what you did with the thumbnail
Joel carrying this presentation like a champ. :) PS. maybe it would be nice to have the outro cut up into 2 pieces, intro at first and the nice bass as the outro...
I work at a company in the UK that uses the powerfuse. We haven't yet tried it with Polypropylene but interested in giving it a go. Anyone in the UK who needs this service should check out All3dlabs.
How nice that you are already working with the Powerfuse S! Our Powerfuse S PP is a new system with specially developed processes for polypropylene. Feel free to contact us for a free benchmark!