I’d like to see more accountability in the industry & stop people that aren’t registered with NICEIC Napit stroma ect from getting access to work without insurance and doing moon lighting . I’ve noticed several DNO and SSE electricians( they might be skilled in most cases but this is about signing off the work and taking responsibility !)working in rewires when they don’t test and sign off work! This is infuriating for people like myself who do things by the book Register with NICEIC do the paperwork & get the insurance.😬
Superb Vid Mark, you're telling like it is/ needs to be told. All these poxy outfits at this time, tells me that with renewables, there will be bigger fish eating up the smaller fish, no doubt. Octopus has put a nail in MCS's business model with accepting systems for export etc, without the "gentlemen's club" being involved. It's all changing fast, everyone needs to keep an eye on this whole thing. 💥
I agree that Part P marked the beginning of the severe decline in standards, and the NICEIC did little, if anything to help. I was with the NICEIC for many years, but only ONCE did I ever contact the technical support service, as I was working on an electronics repair workshop which had to comply with Section 418 (Earth-free local bonding). The Technical department had less knowledge on the subject than I had myself, so I never bothered with them again. I moved on after that to an organisation that went directly to UKAS rather than through another body. Much better, so stayed there until retirement.
Most courses are very useful but feel there could be more MCs content on solar PV courses. Like to see napit build some software so we don't need to buy paperclip.
People seem to hate NIC assessments, but I find my assessor has always been sound as a pound. He's been through the same thing, knows the crack and isn't there to catch you out, but if he does find something he'll go out of his way to help and give advice. IET membership is also handy when you get 25% off their publications and even in this last year the money I've saved on the books has paid for the membership itself. I think they're a bit of a punchbag sometimes (and they do know it) but at the end of the day it's still a bunch of fellas just doing their jobs, and with reason.
My personal view back in the day I was JIB trained I then went on my own 40 years ago and you had to be NICEIC Approved to do council work so I stayed with them then Part P came in ( joke ) I then could not see the point of staying approved as Domestic was all you needed and to this day it's served me well in all types of work I then joined MCS in 2010 which we stayed for 4 years whilst Fit payment installed solar was about.I now believe MCS is pointless as its just a money maker for Niceic Napit so you get inspected twice by them and its only Octopus that has caused issue for solar clients insisting on MCS certificate but they now will except installations if you provide all the details as if in MCS.We prob will go back Approved Niceic as I believe ( as it should be ) Approved will be the only ones that can work on industrial contracts in the future ref walking dogs you need to chill on dog walks 🤣
I’d like to see more accountability in the industry & stop people that aren’t registered with NICEIC Napit stroma ect from getting access to work without insurance and doing moon lighting . I’ve noticed several DNO and SSE electricians( they might be skilled in most cases but this is about signing off the work and taking responsibility !)working in rewires when they don’t test and sign off work! This is infuriating for people like myself who do things by the book
Register with NICEIC do the paperwork & get the insurance.😬
Superb Vid Mark, you're telling like it is/ needs to be told. All these poxy outfits at this time, tells me that with renewables, there will be bigger fish eating up the smaller fish, no doubt.
Octopus has put a nail in MCS's business model with accepting systems for export etc, without the "gentlemen's club" being involved.
It's all changing fast, everyone needs to keep an eye on this whole thing. 💥
I agree that Part P marked the beginning of the severe decline in standards, and the NICEIC did little, if anything to help. I was with the NICEIC for many years, but only ONCE did I ever contact the technical support service, as I was working on an electronics repair workshop which had to comply with Section 418 (Earth-free local bonding). The Technical department had less knowledge on the subject than I had myself, so I never bothered with them again. I moved on after that to an organisation that went directly to UKAS rather than through another body. Much better, so stayed there until retirement.
Which body was that? Thanks
@@electrician247 An inspection body is as far as I will identify.
@@devonfuse seems a shame not to let others know the options available.
Most courses are very useful but feel there could be more MCs content on solar PV courses. Like to see napit build some software so we don't need to buy paperclip.
Good information presented 👍
People seem to hate NIC assessments, but I find my assessor has always been sound as a pound. He's been through the same thing, knows the crack and isn't there to catch you out, but if he does find something he'll go out of his way to help and give advice.
IET membership is also handy when you get 25% off their publications and even in this last year the money I've saved on the books has paid for the membership itself.
I think they're a bit of a punchbag sometimes (and they do know it) but at the end of the day it's still a bunch of fellas just doing their jobs, and with reason.
well said Paul!
All money grabbers
My personal view back in the day I was JIB trained I then went on my own 40 years ago and you had to be NICEIC Approved to do council work so I stayed with them then Part P came in ( joke ) I then could not see the point of staying approved as Domestic was all you needed and to this day it's served me well in all types of work I then joined MCS in 2010 which we stayed for 4 years whilst Fit payment installed solar was about.I now believe MCS is pointless as its just a money maker for Niceic Napit so you get inspected twice by them and its only Octopus that has caused issue for solar clients insisting on MCS certificate but they now will except installations if you provide all the details as if in MCS.We prob will go back Approved Niceic as I believe ( as it should be ) Approved will be the only ones that can work on industrial contracts in the future ref walking dogs you need to chill on dog walks 🤣
Haha yeah Bruno and cooper make a strong negotiation. For every 10 mins of technical support they get an extra 30 mins on the walk.
Gas is the same
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