For those saying one speaker trumps the other they would really have to hear them in person to make an informed opinion. I heard them both on the same amp, alibet different sources (not too different just different dac) and the things that stood out to the most is that sp40s have incredible bass definition, while they may not dig as low as the s400s they are superior in that 40-60hz range when it comes to bass, which realistically is the majority of the bass that you hear. The rest of the presentation is classic Dynaudio, there's a level of refinement in the sound, I don't have any other words to describe other than it offers a "hi-fi" sound, everything was there but not necessarily jumping out at you, the staging to my memory was not as wide or tall as the as the s400s however, nor did it feel as clearly defined. I don't think this is a question of resolution, it's just that the buchardts project in a more lively way with the waveguide and give the impression of a bigger more defined image. I wouldn't be able to tell which one is better in the midrange perhaps the sp40s is more rich there, but the dac I was listening to with the sp40s is devoid of midrange and the s400s I have on a R2R which I never found to be lacking in my system. With the s400s (I own them) I find the bass to be there and full, but the definition just isn't on the level of the sp40s which makes sense given the proprietary drivers of the sp40s vs your relatively budget drivers of the s400s. The s400s have a high quality crossover with high end parts, but the sp40s have high end drivers with a relatively cheap crossover. In the end, I could live happily with either speakers, and it would come down to personal preference, or a coin toss. If you want a refined well defined sound that's a bit understated, with maybe a richness in the mids, go with the sp40s, if you want something that will project a wide lively non-fatiguing sound that's full range (for a bookshelf) then go with the s400s.
Excellent analysis! Overall my impression is the Buchardts indeed have high parts and build quality, but lower quality drivers. Also the Buchardts play a very flat frequency response, which according to the way human ear work actually makes the upper mids sound slightly tilted and superficially more detailed but also fatiguing over time (my ears are sensitive to that). And I think Buchhardt were better off rolling off the bass earlier rather than letting the deep bass muddy the sound and lack speed in complex drumming passages. Overall Dynaudio have mastered the bookshelf speaker over many decades and Buchhardt have come in with an interesting angle, but IMO the king is not dethroned. I have even read a reviewer state the Dynaudio Evoke 10s are even better balanced than the Sp40s and I bought the Evoke 10s and perceive no weaknesses in any aspect of their performance in a small room. Evoke 10 also clearly beats Evoke 20 which lacks control over its larger bass drivers.
@@connorduke4619 Thanks for that perspective. I would say that I did hear some of that upper-mid energy initially when I set the Buchardts up, but through a series of painstaking adjustments I managed to position them in a way that removed that uncomfortable energy from the frequency range. My theory is that given the wide projection of sound that these speakers throw the frequencies may start to overlap and do undesirable things. In that sense, these speakers are quite difficult to position, and Buchardt unfortunately offer very little guidance on this and dare I say make misleading claims about the speakers being easy to position. Through trial and error I ended up having them about 2.5m apart with no toe-in and have them sitting about 85cm up on stands in a relatively small listening space, 40cm from the wall. The closer you are to them the higher up they have to be in my experience due to the lower-firing tweeters, at longer distances it doesn't matter as much. In the end I was rewarded for my efforts, but sp40s are def easier to set up.
@@cmessi Both are soft domed tweeters so it is not the tweeter itself in this case but the overall speaker voicing including crossover. To my ears both Sp40 and Buchardt are over-excited in the upper mids, partly because many audiophiles (usually with lack of a musical background) are conditioned to believe that is a "higher quality" sound. A.k.a. showroom sound. For a more balanced top to bottom sound I would highly recommend Dynaudio Evoke 10 (which I own) for a small room or Dynaudio Contour 20i for a larger room. To come back to your original question, in general Dynaudio is renowned as having the most tolerant tweeters in the business, able to play bright recordings. You can also pair them with bright gear but they will sound better with more neutral or slightly warm gear.
I've got The Buchardt S400 MKII with the proprietary Integrated Buchardt I150 (developed specifically for this speaker) and trust me, It's the best sounding system I ever came across for room well size, not too big. The S400 bass is like no other in terms of power and accuracy with the passive radiators on back, then the mid range, gorgeous for human voice,, saxophone, etc and a tweeter never fatiguing and perfectly balance. I'm biaseds yes but trust me for a very very good reason.
DyneAudio special 40, winner. Usually don't vote for brighter speakers, but the DyneAudio has a more dynamic range of tone, and the vocals sound very good. Something about the upper mid-range and treble in the Buchardt wasn't quite balanced. Thanks for the video.
It’s close, they both have they’re strength. Buchardt mids are not as defined, present -The dynaudios are a little better balanced from top to end but perhaps doesn’t have the high and low extension of the Buchardt which gives them a little more presence. Both very natural sounding.
@@soulispan9997 My primary Speaker before the Buchardt's were ELAC Uni-Fi Reference UBR62. I still own them, looking to sell them. My journey to the Buchardt's was around-about. Original plan was a system core of ELAC Uni-Fi Reference and Cambridge CXA81 Amp, but the plan was modified when i got a deal on the Hegel H-190. Thehe ELAC's just aren't a good match with the Hegel, so upgraded to Buchardt S400 MkII
To my ears in the shop the Buchardt's were a more pleasant speaker to listen to. The depth of the bottom end flat out is more exciting and energizing while listening to even bad audiophile music choices. But when you play music that normal people listen to the Buchardt's move even further ahead. The speakers are on a different plane when it comes to pop and hard rock music. But we all hear and want different things.
Great Video. I have the Buchardts powered by Musical Fidelity M6, they are great, natural sound, have fast base, not boomy at all. They work great with all types of music and with most size rooms. they sound much better with dynamic, neutral amplifiers, I had to try a few before finding a good matching.
Two different but enjoyable sound signatures! The laid back 40’s is my typical choice but the neutral Buchardts with the mid bass and bass authority got my attention quickly! Great comparison! I wouldn’t kick either out of my stereo rack.
Was really interested in the buchardts, but based on this video I stronger prefer the mids on the dyne audio's. They need a sub, but that's always a possible upgrade for the future. Sadly they're out of my budget.
The Dynos have a lot of bass, I just plugged the port 1/3rd otherwise they overpower my room. Sure, they don't go as low as the Buchardt. All in all, the S400 has better and more bass, that is true.
Buy the Evoke 10s, which have similar drivers to the Sp40 and are arguably even better tonally balanced. I have them, they as close to perfection as you can get in a small bookshelf.
Buchardt wins.......fuller soundstage and more detailed .....Dynaudio seemed to be limited but had a brightness that become harsh over long listening periods
You are spot on. The drums did it for me…tight and snappy. Buchardts were sloppy and blurred. Buchardts definitely warmer because of extended bottom end.
I have a pair of 2012 DynAudio Focus 360 Floorstanding speakers that are extremely musical. I see that they are still making an amazing product. As far as aesthetics I would definitely own a pair of those peach Buchardt P300’s but from a listening standpoint, it’s Dyn all the way.
Wow, that room is weird with the two walls so close to the back of the speakers. That will definitely cause weird standing waves in the bass regions. Not good for comparisons.
I just want to know what sounds better at low volume. My Buchardt top end doesn't kick in till about 80db. I listen to around 70db. I have very sensitive ears. They both sound fantastic for sure.
At low volume the s40 will give you everything. These speakers are more transparent, clearer and more forward while the Buchs 400 will just give you more of the bass.
I don’t know but I preferred S400 on majority of the songs. Separation sounded better on s400 and better extension top to bottom. I preferred Special 40 on 1 song only in which case female vocals sounded more natural.
Interesting, thanks. As a Dynaudio fan, I came to this thinking the 40 would get the nod, but I think I actual prefer the Buchardts. The bass is clearly lower and more extended, and this creates better dynamics and openness. The 40s sound good, but more 'polite' and slightly darker.
Listen a bit longer as you have fallen for the "showroom" sound designed to capture your attention by bumping u the upper mids as also practiced by B&W and Focal. Over a longer listening session, you will realise the Dynaudios offer a far more balanced and natural sound, it is not even close. If you want more bass, rather than settling for muddy Buchhardt bass, buy a REL sub.
I have already fallen for the look of the Buchs but if I was to make a decision based on this video I am leaning towards the Dynaudio. The vocals seem to sound better in Dyns. Could be the recording. ? Would be awesome to do this comparison in real life
Thanx for this interesting comparison. May I suggest a better speakers position? The lateral walls are too close to the speakers, they cannot "breathe" as they deserve.
Thank you very much for your suggestion and your kindness, good sir. Although I have completely abandoned hifi and sold every accessory I had - this was the best I could get out of this room. The front wall was about 60-70cm from the front baffles and the side wall were approx 20-30cm, depending on the speaker size. Also the room is open to the right and left, so there was no possibility to move them any more forward (i.e. on the right side there is a door).
S400 sounds a little bit flat and dry in the midrange? I just use the old AKG701/801(not sure the exact model) headphone plugged into my mac directly. And the SP40 sonunds more like the orginal throuth the AKG headphone. Same feeling with my Sonus Faber Lumina II via Chord Hugo2 + Audiolab 7000A. Based on this tesing I will go with the SP40 for sure. But before listening to this video, my conclusion based on some reviews(metioned SP40 and S400 both) was the S400 is a better speaker. Hardly to find a chance in China to do some AB test. My local Dynaudio dealer don't Bubhardts at all. Another hot stuff, I think it's the KEF R3 meta. It's definitly better than the LS50, and the only question is how much.
Had the most amazing unique speaker once, with the worst WAF factor you could think of. But had top top of musicallity, sing along speaker you could think of. Those were like the instruments were litterly in the room. In that sense I would prefer speakers that are not leaning back. Dynaudio may have faster units, but Buchardts are more sing along speakers to me.
Thanks for this comparison. I think you did a great job on volume matching👍 Listening to this video I perceive the Buchardts as clearer, faster and tonally more natural than the Dyns
S40s wins in every category, but cost 50% more and I don't think they're THAT better - not even that sensational 29 mm tweeter that makes S400's highs sound so pedestrian.
Please note that the S400 should cost more than double if it was sold through dealers. It is ONLY sold through their website directly to the end customer.
The Special 40 has more coloration. If you like that effect in your music, that's fine. But the S400 MKII is more true to the source. Also, living with them is different than hearing them here.
I bought the Special 40's about three years ago and yes, they will inevitably get surpassed and maybe the Buchardt S400 MK2's are the speakers to do that but here's the thing. When an avid upgrader like me decides that he's finally found his 'keeper' speakers and no longer takes an interest in other Manufacturer's offerings, surely Dynaudio deserves a huge amount of credit. They have produced a quality set of speakers. Now, the search is on to find an integrated amp to get the best out of the 40's (Lyngdorf, Naim, Hegel) ?? Currently using a Sony TA-A1ES which is amazingly good.
To my ears the Special 40s clearly outperform the Buchardts which to me are unlistenable in every demo I have heard, with a showroom V-shape sound of sloppy bass, exaggerated upper mids and sucked out lower mids. A great match for Dynaudio is Hegel, actually Hegel 120 is the pearl in the range with the most balanced sound. Higher models tend to overdo the bass which muddies the midrange. For even better sound, use an external Dac of which Ladder Schumann is unbeatable for anywhere near its price point at the moment. Thank me later.
This to me is almost an unfair comparison. It is shocking how deep the bass goes on the Buchs. You certainly would not need a sub with these, for music, IMO. I almost felt it was a bit too much, especially in the midrange. I also found the upper midrange on them to sound a little boxy, not as light or airy or detailed as the Dynas. But yes, when you put them together, the Buchardt just stands out because of the deep punchy bass. Like comparing a tower to a bookshelf. Overall I prefered the Dynas faster, more detailed sound, but you would have to add the cost of a sub with it, to compare it to the Buchardts overall sound.
Better to have a wel functioning bookshelf like Dynaudio and pair it with a fast sub like REL, rather than compromise your sound with a fat uncontrolled bass like Buchhardt.
@@Arthax83 Ability to play deep bass with agility, not lethargic and boomy. I since bought a Dynaudio 9S sub (powered by a Class D internal amp) to match my Evoke 10s and it is an excellent pairing.
@@Arthax83 I don't use any room correction. However I do know how to place speakers and subs, and also which size speaker is suitable for my room, as well as which speakers and amps deliver controlled bass.
Nekem a Buckhardt egy kicsit fátyolosabbnak hangzik mint a Dynaudio. Szóval én a Dynaudiot választanám... ha nem lennék megelégedve az Audio Solutions Overture 322B -vel. 😉 De mivel nekem most az a "ne tovább" hangszóró, így marad az A. S. 😉😊 Csak a megfelelő erősítőt kell hozzá megtaláljam. Most a kis Rega IO hajtja őket, de szeretnék egy hozzájuk méltóbb erősítőt nézni.
Used the Sade track, with others, choosing speakers a LONG time ago. It's a really good test. Still have and love those speakers (chose well, luckily). Dynaudio seem unexpectedly 'distant' and uninvolving. Buchardt better despite a slightly over-done mid-bass.
@@georgedomse I Have the Dyn's and they do present magic now an then. But and this is a certain but... you need a amp with about 75watts or better. I am running a Rega Aethos.
@@jasonme3557 As you can see in this video, I use an Hegel H190 that delivers 2*150W into 8 ohms and 2*250W into 4 ohms, and is stable down to 2 ohms. However I have been driving them with a Sugden A21 (23W) Class A amp and they sounded phenomenal.
@@georgedomse Oh yea I have my eyes on a Sugden A21-SE a bit nervous as I have not heard, but one must assume is awesome. what Class A are you running?
Absolutely. The H190 has great grip on the bass, of which the S400 has tons of. The S400 doesn't have a ton of warmth in the mids, the Hegel won't change that at all - it is a matter of fact presentation there. The highs will be clean, clear and extended.
@@JavierMonterodeBlas the general sound signature of the H95 is very similar to the H190. Having said that, the H190 is more confident, muscular and due to the bigger headroom a bit better at low levels. Not a huge difference, though. The H120 on the other hand, sounds different.
@@mirov7448 the H190 for me was much better once run in. When new, the character was the same - I found both of them harsh and very forward. But once the H190 was burned in (took months), the midrange settled and became textured, more neutral (even slightly warm-ish) and the whole sonic picute stepped to another level. The H190+Sp40 combo (with a HiDiamond D5 cable loom) is the best sounding combo I ever owned.
Allegedly the SP40's have some kind of cabinet resonance, which I tried to minimize with those weights. SOme compenies like Entreq make special ones that should be working even better.
Yes Buchhardt is "showroom sound" designed to deceive people without a discerning musician's ears. For anyone who has played a musical instrument for any length of time, the Dynaudio is a far more balanced and natural sound.
Well guys in a side by side with the Dynaudio heritage. The Buchardt is 95 percent as good as the 7,000.00 Heritage. Thats how good these 2,000.00 speakers are. Just Saying 😅
Hi. Would you tell me how many hours the speakers where played before you did the video? The Dynaudio take a long time to play in. Don't know how much the Buchardt's need....
I don't know about the Buchardt's, they were B stock. I played them about 50 hours before recording this video. The Dynos were approx 4 months old, with approx 4-5 hours per day, so we can consider them run in.
First of all this is not true. I used the Special Forty with amps as low as 23 Watts (Sugden A21 Signature). The amp here is a Hegel H190, with lots of wattage and current.
@@georgedomseMerci pour la réponse. Quel a été le meilleur match avec les dynaudio . le Sugden A21 au le hegel . Je cherche L'ampli qui irait bien avec mes dynaudio spécial 40.
Ok, just have to say WOW about the Buchardts. Even over RUclips on headphones (SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless), which is in NO way indicative of actually being there in person.. I'm still wowed. Can't even begin to fathom their power in person.
S40's treble / midrange is more recessed and, although the bass is better than most of its peers at this price points, can not compete with S400 in terms of its weight. Overall, S400 is better in every metrics. Could not tell the soundtage due to the single mic. recording.
S40, like any Dyno, are relaxed and way more detailed, S400 is more forward and direct sounding. Dynos sound mature and expensive, and guess what, they are.
Buchardt very warm speakers, v shaped but not too much. Pleasant listen. Nice punchy bass. I am hearing them as more narrow sounding, like everything happens between the speakers. What is tour direct listening imoression regarding sound stage?
while s40 are more refined I dig a lot more s400's sound signature, it's way livelier, dynamic, real life. In the jazz demonstration, the s400's sounded real, while the s40s sounded like speakers.
Sonetto or Dali-Rubicon sound more at the SP40 level, in resolution, spaciousness, liveliess. Burchard provides nice and tight bass. But midrange is muffled, even more so than Dynaudio's entry-line Emit. Just listen to the Sade song : super-tight and massive bass, recessed vocals, and a harsh top end. Maybe a Polk R700 or the new Martin Logan line would be able to provide that massive sound without the compromises
The drum solo gives evidence of Buchardt superior mid bass. Listen to floor tom and bass drum. Amazing accomplishment. (My stereo uses Dynaudio studio monitors)
I like the Dynaudio mids. Again the Dynaudio floor tom is just flat out missing the detail man, it's not there. Possibly you only need drums to test speakers.. maybe so. Could be because I used to own a drum kit w/ a Zildjian. Both of these do nicely with cymbals I think.
die Buchards sind fantastisch Realistisch. Die Dynamik im Film ist bemerkenswert...jeder einzelne Schlag ist zu hören, und die Stimmen sind so natürlich. Die Dynaudio kann da nicht mithalten.
Stimmt... und dann irgendwie doch nicht. Was Sie schreiben ist zwar Tatsache, ist aber dem geschuldet, daß die Buchardts in den Bässen und den Hochtönen etwas gehoben klingen, das Gesamtbild hat einen V-Charakter. Die Dynos sind da schon viel "flächer" gestimmt, das heisst die Dynamik der Filme ist etwas gringer, dafür sind Dialoge viel dicker und natürlicher. Natürlich ist es einem überlassen, was man davon bevorzugt.
Much more and better bass and refinement in the highs for the Buchards while in the highs the Dynaudio is splashy. Just listen the cymbals! I think that the Special Forty were a special and rare mistake done by Dynaudio. In my opinion the humble Emit line is better!
@@albertosilva1076 I had the Emit10's (the 2021 version), they were nowhere near the refinement, clarity and soundstage to the Sp40's. But we may be listening to different things in a speaker.
I have Dynaudio Focus 160's and I hear so much of them in the Special Forty. Clear, analytical, clinical, flat, non-musical. Do everything quite well yet a dull listen.
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For those saying one speaker trumps the other they would really have to hear them in person to make an informed opinion. I heard them both on the same amp, alibet different sources (not too different just different dac) and the things that stood out to the most is that sp40s have incredible bass definition, while they may not dig as low as the s400s they are superior in that 40-60hz range when it comes to bass, which realistically is the majority of the bass that you hear.
The rest of the presentation is classic Dynaudio, there's a level of refinement in the sound, I don't have any other words to describe other than it offers a "hi-fi" sound, everything was there but not necessarily jumping out at you, the staging to my memory was not as wide or tall as the as the s400s however, nor did it feel as clearly defined. I don't think this is a question of resolution, it's just that the buchardts project in a more lively way with the waveguide and give the impression of a bigger more defined image. I wouldn't be able to tell which one is better in the midrange perhaps the sp40s is more rich there, but the dac I was listening to with the sp40s is devoid of midrange and the s400s I have on a R2R which I never found to be lacking in my system.
With the s400s (I own them) I find the bass to be there and full, but the definition just isn't on the level of the sp40s which makes sense given the proprietary drivers of the sp40s vs your relatively budget drivers of the s400s. The s400s have a high quality crossover with high end parts, but the sp40s have high end drivers with a relatively cheap crossover. In the end, I could live happily with either speakers, and it would come down to personal preference, or a coin toss. If you want a refined well defined sound that's a bit understated, with maybe a richness in the mids, go with the sp40s, if you want something that will project a wide lively non-fatiguing sound that's full range (for a bookshelf) then go with the s400s.
Very well explaind. And the way it is...
Excellent analysis! Overall my impression is the Buchardts indeed have high parts and build quality, but lower quality drivers. Also the Buchardts play a very flat frequency response, which according to the way human ear work actually makes the upper mids sound slightly tilted and superficially more detailed but also fatiguing over time (my ears are sensitive to that). And I think Buchhardt were better off rolling off the bass earlier rather than letting the deep bass muddy the sound and lack speed in complex drumming passages. Overall Dynaudio have mastered the bookshelf speaker over many decades and Buchhardt have come in with an interesting angle, but IMO the king is not dethroned.
I have even read a reviewer state the Dynaudio Evoke 10s are even better balanced than the Sp40s and I bought the Evoke 10s and perceive no weaknesses in any aspect of their performance in a small room. Evoke 10 also clearly beats Evoke 20 which lacks control over its larger bass drivers.
@@connorduke4619 Thanks for that perspective. I would say that I did hear some of that upper-mid energy initially when I set the Buchardts up, but through a series of painstaking adjustments I managed to position them in a way that removed that uncomfortable energy from the frequency range. My theory is that given the wide projection of sound that these speakers throw the frequencies may start to overlap and do undesirable things. In that sense, these speakers are quite difficult to position, and Buchardt unfortunately offer very little guidance on this and dare I say make misleading claims about the speakers being easy to position. Through trial and error I ended up having them about 2.5m apart with no toe-in and have them sitting about 85cm up on stands in a relatively small listening space, 40cm from the wall. The closer you are to them the higher up they have to be in my experience due to the lower-firing tweeters, at longer distances it doesn't matter as much. In the end I was rewarded for my efforts, but sp40s are def easier to set up.
My ears are sensitive for too bright and too bassy speakers. Which speaker has the brighter tweeter?
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@@cmessi Both are soft domed tweeters so it is not the tweeter itself in this case but the overall speaker voicing including crossover. To my ears both Sp40 and Buchardt are over-excited in the upper mids, partly because many audiophiles (usually with lack of a musical background) are conditioned to believe that is a "higher quality" sound. A.k.a. showroom sound.
For a more balanced top to bottom sound I would highly recommend Dynaudio Evoke 10 (which I own) for a small room or Dynaudio Contour 20i for a larger room.
To come back to your original question, in general Dynaudio is renowned as having the most tolerant tweeters in the business, able to play bright recordings. You can also pair them with bright gear but they will sound better with more neutral or slightly warm gear.
I've got The Buchardt S400 MKII with the proprietary Integrated Buchardt I150 (developed specifically for this speaker) and trust me, It's the best sounding system I ever came across for room well size, not too big. The S400 bass is like no other in terms of power and accuracy with the passive radiators on back, then the mid range, gorgeous for human voice,, saxophone, etc and a tweeter never fatiguing and perfectly balance. I'm biaseds yes but trust me for a very very good reason.
Also have Buchardt S400 MKII, but driven by Hegel H-190. Love them !!!
@@Roadie_342 Those are really serious amplifiers, one of the very best today. Truly a reference in the audiophile world. Well done brother.
S400ii best match drive with McIntosh old integrated amp like 6900 ,Ma7000 .. I perfect sound
DyneAudio special 40, winner. Usually don't vote for brighter speakers, but the DyneAudio has a more dynamic range of tone, and the vocals sound very good. Something about the upper mid-range and treble in the Buchardt wasn't quite balanced. Thanks for the video.
It’s close, they both have they’re strength. Buchardt mids are not as defined, present -The dynaudios are a little better balanced from top to end but perhaps doesn’t have the high and low extension of the Buchardt which gives them a little more presence. Both very natural sounding.
The clear winner for me is the Buchardt S400 MK2. Thanks for the very realistic comparison.
Great Video.
I am about 3 week in enjoying my new Buchardt's S400 Mk2. Best performing speaker I ever owned !!
Hi! Which speakers you owned before
@@soulispan9997 My primary Speaker before the Buchardt's were ELAC Uni-Fi Reference UBR62. I still own them, looking to sell them. My journey to the Buchardt's was around-about. Original plan was a system core of ELAC Uni-Fi Reference and Cambridge CXA81 Amp, but the plan was modified when i got a deal on the Hegel H-190. Thehe ELAC's just aren't a good match with the Hegel, so upgraded to Buchardt S400 MkII
Dynaudio have better mids and dispersion and also better in low volume listening
To my ears in the shop the Buchardt's were a more pleasant speaker to listen to. The depth of the bottom end flat out is more exciting and energizing while listening to even bad audiophile music choices. But when you play music that normal people listen to the Buchardt's move even further ahead. The speakers are on a different plane when it comes to pop and hard rock music. But we all hear and want different things.
Great Video. I have the Buchardts powered by Musical Fidelity M6, they are great, natural sound, have fast base, not boomy at all. They work great with all types of music and with most size rooms. they sound much better with dynamic, neutral amplifiers, I had to try a few before finding a good matching.
Two different but enjoyable sound signatures! The laid back 40’s is my typical choice but the neutral Buchardts with the mid bass and bass authority got my attention quickly! Great comparison! I wouldn’t kick either out of my stereo rack.
Mid bass and bass authority can be achieved with the Emit series at half the cost of Burchard. No one dares to compare those two !
Was really interested in the buchardts, but based on this video I stronger prefer the mids on the dyne audio's. They need a sub, but that's always a possible upgrade for the future. Sadly they're out of my budget.
The Dynos have a lot of bass, I just plugged the port 1/3rd otherwise they overpower my room.
Sure, they don't go as low as the Buchardt. All in all, the S400 has better and more bass, that is true.
Buy the Evoke 10s, which have similar drivers to the Sp40 and are arguably even better tonally balanced. I have them, they as close to perfection as you can get in a small bookshelf.
@@connorduke4619S400 MKII has the flatter response.
Buchardt wins.......fuller soundstage and more detailed .....Dynaudio seemed to be limited but had a brightness that become harsh over long listening periods
I see we have the same door-stops lol Thanks, Darko.
Dynaudio sounds faster more detail in drum solo. Buchart has a lovely bass and great voices but maybe missing a bit in the mids.
You are spot on. The drums did it for me…tight and snappy. Buchardts were sloppy and blurred. Buchardts definitely warmer because of extended bottom end.
I have a pair of 2012 DynAudio Focus 360 Floorstanding speakers that are extremely musical. I see that they are still making an amazing product. As far as aesthetics I would definitely own a pair of those peach Buchardt P300’s but from a listening standpoint, it’s Dyn all the way.
For me it’s a no brainer choice to go for buchardt, the sound is much fuller and involving, and I don’t think details wise it’s lacking much behind
Wow, that room is weird with the two walls so close to the back of the speakers. That will definitely cause weird standing waves in the bass regions. Not good for comparisons.
I just want to know what sounds better at low volume. My Buchardt top end doesn't kick in till about 80db. I listen to around 70db. I have very sensitive ears. They both sound fantastic for sure.
At low volume the s40 will give you everything. These speakers are more transparent, clearer and more forward while the Buchs 400 will just give you more of the bass.
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I don’t know but I preferred S400 on majority of the songs. Separation sounded better on s400 and better extension top to bottom. I preferred Special 40 on 1 song only in which case female vocals sounded more natural.
Interesting, thanks. As a Dynaudio fan, I came to this thinking the 40 would get the nod, but I think I actual prefer the Buchardts. The bass is clearly lower and more extended, and this creates better dynamics and openness. The 40s sound good, but more 'polite' and slightly darker.
Listen a bit longer as you have fallen for the "showroom" sound designed to capture your attention by bumping u the upper mids as also practiced by B&W and Focal. Over a longer listening session, you will realise the Dynaudios offer a far more balanced and natural sound, it is not even close. If you want more bass, rather than settling for muddy Buchhardt bass, buy a REL sub.
I have already fallen for the look of the Buchs but if I was to make a decision based on this video I am leaning towards the Dynaudio. The vocals seem to sound better in Dyns. Could be the recording. ? Would be awesome to do this comparison in real life
Your ears do not deceive you. Buchhardts are a marketing hype, Dynaudio is the real deal.
Did you make a decision yet?
@@cmessi yes. I got the Buchardt P300 and ❤️ them very much. Super pleased.
Listen to the guy speak at 15:20. Far more natural on the Buchardt
The sound on the Bouchardt is simply more beautiful... the voices are better. So happy I have them... I should stop looking for something better. 😔
Dynaudio is all about details and refinement. Bouchardt sound pedestrian.
Thanx for this interesting comparison. May I suggest a better speakers position? The lateral walls are too close to the speakers, they cannot "breathe" as they deserve.
Thank you very much for your suggestion and your kindness, good sir.
Although I have completely abandoned hifi and sold every accessory I had - this was the best I could get out of this room. The front wall was about 60-70cm from the front baffles and the side wall were approx 20-30cm, depending on the speaker size. Also the room is open to the right and left, so there was no possibility to move them any more forward (i.e. on the right side there is a door).
Speaker placement sure is not good ,but thx for the video. Bouchard for me
Bucharest for me especially on the drum solo
They BOTH sound good. All a matter of preference. Personally l lean towards the Buchardts. They sound EDGIER.
Hallo, the two Specker Label are very nice. 🎉
What is that for a Movie?
May I ask which Hegel amp? The bass out of the Buchardts is impressive! Thanks for posting!
It's the Hegel H190.
Listening to the guy talk at 15:20 is all you need to hear. The Special 40 is no match for the S400 MKII's realistic portrayal of voices.
Where are the mids Buchardt ???
Listen to the guy speak at 15:20 and compare to the Buchardt and you'll have your answer to which sounds more natural
S400 sounds a little bit flat and dry in the midrange? I just use the old AKG701/801(not sure the exact model) headphone plugged into my mac directly. And the SP40 sonunds more like the orginal throuth the AKG headphone. Same feeling with my Sonus Faber Lumina II via Chord Hugo2 + Audiolab 7000A. Based on this tesing I will go with the SP40 for sure. But before listening to this video, my conclusion based on some reviews(metioned SP40 and S400 both) was the S400 is a better speaker. Hardly to find a chance in China to do some AB test. My local Dynaudio dealer don't Bubhardts at all. Another hot stuff, I think it's the KEF R3 meta. It's definitly better than the LS50, and the only question is how much.
Had the most amazing unique speaker once, with the worst WAF factor you could think of. But had top top of musicallity, sing along speaker you could think of. Those were like the instruments were litterly in the room. In that sense I would prefer speakers that are not leaning back. Dynaudio may have faster units, but Buchardts are more sing along speakers to me.
Winner: Dynaudio Special Forty
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Agree, better tonal balance.
Thanks for this comparison. I think you did a great job on volume matching👍
Listening to this video I perceive the Buchardts as clearer, faster and tonally more natural than the Dyns
LOL - the Buchardt's were way way louder ! Do you own a decent set of headphones ?
S40s wins in every category, but cost 50% more and I don't think they're THAT better - not even that sensational 29 mm tweeter that makes S400's highs sound so pedestrian.
Please note that the S400 should cost more than double if it was sold through dealers. It is ONLY sold through their website directly to the end customer.
The Special 40 has more coloration. If you like that effect in your music, that's fine. But the S400 MKII is more true to the source. Also, living with them is different than hearing them here.
Дякую за роботу ту, Гарна якість звуку, відчувається різниця між колонками, нажаль для мене недосяжно обидва виробника, по фінансовим причинам👍
Hallo, the two Specker Label are very nice. 🎉
What is that for a Movie?
greeting….
Hallo Sebastian, die Szene stammt aus der Serie "Vikings" auf Netflix. Cooles Zeug, schau's dir bei Gelegenheit mal an.
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Super, dank dir für die Info.
Cooles Video ✌🏼…
I bought the Special 40's about three years ago and yes, they will inevitably get surpassed and maybe the Buchardt S400 MK2's are the speakers to do that but here's the thing. When an avid upgrader like me decides that he's finally found his 'keeper' speakers and no longer takes an interest in other Manufacturer's offerings, surely Dynaudio deserves a huge amount of credit. They have produced a quality set of speakers.
Now, the search is on to find an integrated amp to get the best out of the 40's (Lyngdorf, Naim, Hegel) ?? Currently using a Sony TA-A1ES which is amazingly good.
To my ears the Special 40s clearly outperform the Buchardts which to me are unlistenable in every demo I have heard, with a showroom V-shape sound of sloppy bass, exaggerated upper mids and sucked out lower mids. A great match for Dynaudio is Hegel, actually Hegel 120 is the pearl in the range with the most balanced sound. Higher models tend to overdo the bass which muddies the midrange. For even better sound, use an external Dac of which Ladder Schumann is unbeatable for anywhere near its price point at the moment. Thank me later.
You could save a big chunk of change and buy a 2nd hand Audiolab integrated. Or more upmarket - Chord.
This to me is almost an unfair comparison. It is shocking how deep the bass goes on the Buchs. You certainly would not need a sub with these, for music, IMO. I almost felt it was a bit too much, especially in the midrange. I also found the upper midrange on them to sound a little boxy, not as light or airy or detailed as the Dynas. But yes, when you put them together, the Buchardt just stands out because of the deep punchy bass. Like comparing a tower to a bookshelf. Overall I prefered the Dynas faster, more detailed sound, but you would have to add the cost of a sub with it, to compare it to the Buchardts overall sound.
Better to have a wel functioning bookshelf like Dynaudio and pair it with a fast sub like REL, rather than compromise your sound with a fat uncontrolled bass like Buchhardt.
@@connorduke4619what exactley is a fast sub? 🤔
@@Arthax83 Ability to play deep bass with agility, not lethargic and boomy. I since bought a Dynaudio 9S sub (powered by a Class D internal amp) to match my Evoke 10s and it is an excellent pairing.
@@connorduke4619 Sounds more like a question of integration. Are you using any room correction or REW with DSP?
@@Arthax83 I don't use any room correction. However I do know how to place speakers and subs, and also which size speaker is suitable for my room, as well as which speakers and amps deliver controlled bass.
Nekem a Buckhardt egy kicsit fátyolosabbnak hangzik mint a Dynaudio. Szóval én a Dynaudiot választanám... ha nem lennék megelégedve az Audio Solutions Overture 322B -vel. 😉 De mivel nekem most az a "ne tovább" hangszóró, így marad az A. S. 😉😊 Csak a megfelelő erősítőt kell hozzá megtaláljam. Most a kis Rega IO hajtja őket, de szeretnék egy hozzájuk méltóbb erősítőt nézni.
What amp is driving the speakers in this video?
i prefere the Dynaudio for sure
They sound like opposites. Buchardt are more forward sounding while the Dynaudios are more laid back. Personal preference really.
I Guess some people are mixing them up. I preffered the Dynaudio's. The Buchardts sounded too hot on most tracks.
Dynaudio, better midrange and more controlled (albeit not as deep) bass, winner.
Used the Sade track, with others, choosing speakers a LONG time ago. It's a really good test. Still have and love those speakers (chose well, luckily). Dynaudio seem unexpectedly 'distant' and uninvolving. Buchardt better despite a slightly over-done mid-bass.
It is the room "fault"
That's a thing you always have to to consider.
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What are the devices used on top of the Dynaudios?
Metal door stops from my local HW store, approx 5€ a piece.
Dynaudio sounds clean but a bit dry. Bucharest has kind of BBC dip, both are good speakers
You mean the other way round?
Why such close sidewalls? That's got to affect the sound dramatically.
For the glory of Satan of course.
The movie sounds a lot clearer and has more bass w the Buchardts
40s any day of the week 🙌
Details are clearer and more prominent in the SP40 while bassheads will be very happy with S400s.
The best would be if put Dyn's midrange to Buchardt.
I just shot my impressions video. This is one of the things I concluded, too.
@@georgedomse I Have the Dyn's and they do present magic now an then. But and this is a certain but... you need a amp with about 75watts or better. I am running a Rega Aethos.
@@jasonme3557 As you can see in this video, I use an Hegel H190 that delivers 2*150W into 8 ohms and 2*250W into 4 ohms, and is stable down to 2 ohms. However I have been driving them with a Sugden A21 (23W) Class A amp and they sounded phenomenal.
@@georgedomse Oh yea I have my eyes on a Sugden A21-SE a bit nervous as I have not heard, but one must assume is awesome.
what Class A are you running?
@@jasonme3557 it was the Sugden A21 Signature. I highly recommend that amp, great midrange. Of course it's not for concert level volumes.
Incred those Buchardts, awesome bass.
Would you say that Hegel H190 and the s400 are a good match? I have the s400s right now and are looking for a new amp for them.
Absolutely. The H190 has great grip on the bass, of which the S400 has tons of. The S400 doesn't have a ton of warmth in the mids, the Hegel won't change that at all - it is a matter of fact presentation there. The highs will be clean, clear and extended.
May I ask if the signature of sound would be different with a Hegel H95? (Low volumen)
@@JavierMonterodeBlas the general sound signature of the H95 is very similar to the H190. Having said that, the H190 is more confident, muscular and due to the bigger headroom a bit better at low levels. Not a huge difference, though.
The H120 on the other hand, sounds different.
Hi George, how did you find sp40 on h120 vs h190? I have the h120 and keep wondering would h190 be a better fit given the power? Thanks
@@mirov7448 the H190 for me was much better once run in. When new, the character was the same - I found both of them harsh and very forward. But once the H190 was burned in (took months), the midrange settled and became textured, more neutral (even slightly warm-ish) and the whole sonic picute stepped to another level.
The H190+Sp40 combo (with a HiDiamond D5 cable loom) is the best sounding combo I ever owned.
Why do the dynaudios have such a weight on top? What's the effect?
Allegedly the SP40's have some kind of cabinet resonance, which I tried to minimize with those weights. SOme compenies like Entreq make special ones that should be working even better.
can't go wrong with either of those choices
Dynaudio speakers are hands down more natural and realistic.
Dyns at mids and Buchs at lows and highs.. completely different sound.
Yes Buchhardt is "showroom sound" designed to deceive people without a discerning musician's ears. For anyone who has played a musical instrument for any length of time, the Dynaudio is a far more balanced and natural sound.
Sonetto II vs Burchardt please:)
I quit hifi a year ago. No more videos on this channel.
The dynaudios sound metallic and fadiguing !
Connect buchardt to unison research s6 or higher model ad you will be surprised.
Awesome.
Well guys in a side by side with the Dynaudio heritage. The Buchardt is 95 percent as good as the 7,000.00 Heritage. Thats how good these 2,000.00 speakers are. Just Saying 😅
Dynaudio better surrounding and resolution - Buchardt for movies more enjoyable 🙂
Hi. Would you tell me how many hours the speakers where played before you did the video? The Dynaudio take a long time to play in. Don't know how much the Buchardt's need....
I don't know about the Buchardt's, they were B stock. I played them about 50 hours before recording this video. The Dynos were approx 4 months old, with approx 4-5 hours per day, so we can consider them run in.
Dynaudio all way.
Die Dynaudio sind in den Höhen etwas nervig. Nicht mein Ding. Bei hoher Lautstärke bevorzuge ich die Dänin.
une question l'ampli c'est quoi?. dynaudio a besion de beaucoup de puissance ou de courant
First of all this is not true. I used the Special Forty with amps as low as 23 Watts (Sugden A21 Signature). The amp here is a Hegel H190, with lots of wattage and current.
@@georgedomseMerci pour la réponse. Quel a été le meilleur match avec les dynaudio . le Sugden A21 au le hegel . Je cherche L'ampli qui irait bien avec mes dynaudio spécial 40.
@@gillesrobitaille634 my H190 is the best match for my ears so far, but your mileage may vary. You must absolutely try for yourself.
@@georgedomse Merci beaucoup pour la réponse. Je suis impatient pour auditionner le hegel
the 40s has a fuller voice and smoothe refined sound
You have a loop on one of the speaker cables, that effects the sound. You shold have put both on the floor also, bass will be better.
Ok, just have to say WOW about the Buchardts. Even over RUclips on headphones (SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless), which is in NO way indicative of actually being there in person.. I'm still wowed. Can't even begin to fathom their power in person.
Let me say this: they kick major butt.
Dynaudio wins easily
Whats the price difference?
This band nailed this remake.
Metallica vibes.
S40's treble / midrange is more recessed and, although the bass is better than most of its peers at this price points, can not compete with S400 in terms of its weight. Overall, S400 is better in every metrics. Could not tell the soundtage due to the single mic. recording.
S40, like any Dyno, are relaxed and way more detailed, S400 is more forward and direct sounding. Dynos sound mature and expensive, and guess what, they are.
You need to train your ears like a musician does. Dynaudio is superior across bass (control), mids (engagement) and treble (detail without glare).
Dynaudio SF vs Revival Audio atalante 3 will be best !
Buchardt very warm speakers, v shaped but not too much. Pleasant listen. Nice punchy bass. I am hearing them as more narrow sounding, like everything happens between the speakers. What is tour direct listening imoression regarding sound stage?
Video will follow with all findings :)
Denmark vs. Denmark... the price would be the clincher....
while s40 are more refined I dig a lot more s400's sound signature, it's way livelier, dynamic, real life. In the jazz demonstration, the s400's sounded real, while the s40s sounded like speakers.
Sonetto or Dali-Rubicon sound more at the SP40 level, in resolution, spaciousness, liveliess. Burchard provides nice and tight bass. But midrange is muffled, even more so than Dynaudio's entry-line Emit. Just listen to the Sade song : super-tight and massive bass, recessed vocals, and a harsh top end. Maybe a Polk R700 or the new Martin Logan line would be able to provide that massive sound without the compromises
Buchardt in my book all day cool speaker
The drum solo gives evidence of Buchardt superior mid bass. Listen to floor tom and bass drum. Amazing accomplishment. (My stereo uses Dynaudio studio monitors)
I like the Dynaudio mids. Again the Dynaudio floor tom is just flat out missing the detail man, it's not there. Possibly you only need drums to test speakers.. maybe so. Could be because I used to own a drum kit w/ a Zildjian. Both of these do nicely with cymbals I think.
Buchardt Wins, Clear and more forward sound with better bass kick.
buchardt is more comfortable and easy
White speaker win pant down.
die Buchards sind fantastisch Realistisch. Die Dynamik im Film ist bemerkenswert...jeder einzelne Schlag ist zu hören, und die Stimmen sind so natürlich. Die Dynaudio kann da nicht mithalten.
Stimmt... und dann irgendwie doch nicht. Was Sie schreiben ist zwar Tatsache, ist aber dem geschuldet, daß die Buchardts in den Bässen und den Hochtönen etwas gehoben klingen, das Gesamtbild hat einen V-Charakter. Die Dynos sind da schon viel "flächer" gestimmt, das heisst die Dynamik der Filme ist etwas gringer, dafür sind Dialoge viel dicker und natürlicher.
Natürlich ist es einem überlassen, was man davon bevorzugt.
Wenn man sich länger beschäftigt gebe ich ihnen Recht@@georgedomse
Buchhard
God I wish you were the real Vinnie Moore :)
Buchardt
GOJIRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Too much bass on the s400
Freaking click bait
Buchardt winner for sure...More low pronouns...
Not even close! Buchardt for the win 🏅
Vocal is better with Dyna. Buchards have better sound , bass and punch. i go for Buchards.
placement matters, you've failed.
Oh my, now I'm gonna cry. How can I ever sleep again?
Everyone, gather around and look at Thomas with some audiophile bullshit stuck in his ass.
Team buchardt
Much more and better bass and refinement in the highs for the Buchards while in the highs the Dynaudio is splashy. Just listen the cymbals! I think that the Special Forty were a special and rare mistake done by Dynaudio. In my opinion the humble Emit line is better!
Have you heard both side-by-side?
@@georgedomse Yes Emit M20 vs Special 40! And Dynaudio corrected the mistake quickly with the Heritage ... at a cost!
@@albertosilva1076 I had the Emit10's (the 2021 version), they were nowhere near the refinement, clarity and soundstage to the Sp40's. But we may be listening to different things in a speaker.
@@georgedomse I listen to dynamics, timbre and resolution, these are key in loudspeakers analysis
@@georgedomse emit 10 is very different of emit 20 starting by the size of the woofer. And the 2016 original is better than the 2021
No vid can be of of any value audio wise. These vids make no sense. Having said that, yes, you can hear the Buchardt is a warmer fuller sound.
I have Dynaudio Focus 160's and I hear so much of them in the Special Forty. Clear, analytical, clinical, flat, non-musical. Do everything quite well yet a dull listen.
... and that's hi-fi, isn't it ? :)
Awful music bye
bye
Buchardt