I remember watching this a few weeks ago still bummed that Phantom Liberty didn't add it. I was on copium for the longest time and finally decided to come to terms with them not adding a metro system and now the mad lads have done it. 😂
I highly recommend the Metro mod on PC. It adds a functional rail system and utilizes many of the cut areas from your video. It was interesting to see the empty buildings where the mod nicely fills them with objects and a metro map that shows all of the possible routes.
I can't even put into words how much I love and hate seeing all this cut content in Cyberpunk. It's like going through an ancient world looking at what may have been. Thanks for the really interesting videos on these.
@@dannyfrost1746 I mean, it would have to be cut content. Why on earth would CDPR build all of these stations and train lines that have some parts finished if they had never fully intended to do it.
Here's hoping that we will see functional metro carts for CDPR's next Cyberpunk game. I still believe that they wasted a lot of time on that PS4 build which resulted in a lot of content getting cut.
@@DanakarEndeel Why is this so important? you know very well that nobody going to this frequently, I'd rather have 1 or 2 extra quests than stupid metro system.
At the start of act two there is that one scripted event where you lose access to your car for a while, I'm fairly certain that CDPR originally intended that mission to then prompt you to take the train over to Delemain's HQ downtown. Act two starts off with several missions that take place across different districts of NC, and you will have already spent the entirety of act one in Watson so it seems like a bizarre design choice to limit the player to have to stay within walking distance of their apartment for the multiple real hours it takes for the car to be fixed.
It aged fine, the game for 4 years of its life & even when this video was made didn’t have the system that was promised lmao they should be ashamed it took so long. It’s a shocker they turned this pile of shit into a half decent game
The lower levels at the corpo plaza station are mostlikely locked because they are meant for the new maglev network connection which is at the time of 2077 still under construction. The tunnel is supposed to connect Night City and Chicago in 2080. It already exists in the game and is being used in one of the endings of the basegame, the other end of the tunnel is the large constructionsite on the northeast of night city.
@@aiden4112 wasnt about to go into detail because of potential spoilers, but when Raiding Arasaka Tower with Panam you use the Basilisk to enter the Constructionsite northeast of NC and follow that tunnel all the way down to corpo plaza, the tunnel isnt connected with the Train station yet but it ends not that far away from it. At the end of the tunnel you use that giant drilling machine to just dig towards the Arasaka Tower basement. The train station and the Arasaka Tower are basically right next to each other. You can also use no clip and check it out for yourself, unless you are not on PC. But you still can use that tunnel by playing the ending with Panam.
IRL having a train on top and one on bottom allows for them to run in both directions and helps handle more people. I imagine that was the intention with their track setup.
Again a bit of context: The metro system was a bit more complex in previous versions with carts being able to run above and under the tracks. The metro also had actual stops as seen in the 48 min demo (when V and Jackie are driving under the underpass in Kabuki, look at the roof, there's a cart slowly accelerating out of the station there.). The system was cut in 2019 as 1. The core team was spread thin anyways 2. There were a lot of issues with the streaming system (some issues are still in the shipped game i.e. when carts are just left behin and stuck in the middle of the track) 3. One of the biggest issues was AI. Crowd agents simply cant have the budget of "normal" (enemy, companion,...) AI as there can be hundrets in screen. That severely limited their interaction with the metro (getting on and off, doing stuff inside there, also some quests and encounters playing in the metro (prototyped but didnt go far)) Taking all these issues into account and also looking at GTAs tram system which 1% of players ever used (and probably forgot about soon after), it just could not be justified spending more time on it when devs were needed elsewhere.
Don't forget that the gtaV tram is useless because it deserve 2% of the entire map. Compare it to the gtaIV train, this one was perfectly useful and cyberpunk could have been as good as this one...
Its sad that it never got in the game i would use it for sure bcz i "mirror's edge" parkour most of the time in the city to the quests and this trains would give the game a more urban feeling and more identity.
*shrug* the game is massive. Who cares? It's something that some people will use occasionally for immersion, but with cars, bikes and fast travel .. Seems kind of a petty thing to be making a tired and old joke for.
@@Open6a-fx4qf They won't though. And there's no reason to do so, it wouldn't change anything at this point. The game's three years old already now. They won't be doing much more with it bar a few fixes here and there.
you can actully see the train suspended in the very first gameplay reveal trailer for a brief moment when v comes outside of megabuilding, also the designs of the train is lil different there.
there's a nice mod which replicates the trains seen in that 2018 footage, looks great and is actually ripped from the game's files. So the interiors of trains were genuinely developed, just never finished.
I loved cyberpunks immersion, only if they could have completed the ncart, casino and more verticle parts of the night city it would have been a 10/10 game for me, sad to see they are done with the major updates, but hopefully we'll see much more areas in sequel! Btw love your anylysis videos!
missing metro in CP..... biggest most immersive feature missing for me !!! If they release the game in state 2.0 with metro system.... wow that will be a almost homerun AAA title :)
That's definitely the point that annoyed me the most about cyberpunk 2077. The first trailer of the game showed us a huge transit map and V in a metro! Metro should have been a main transit system of the game... There was even an artwork with v and arasaka in the train.
The rail system would have been major for casual on foot exploration. Right now hopping in the car is the main way to traverse the city. You miss out on a lot of details, a lot of corners and niches. The railway might have fixed that, made the city feel bigger
Great video! I really with CDPR made one big update that doesn't add any story missions, but instead fleshes out the Night City and adds the cut content. A fully functional metro system would add so much in terms of immersion and city design. I would gladly leave my car and just soak in the environment by taking trains.
Cyberpunk Orion gonna have all these feature back it's obvious the were constrained on time they delayed the game 3 times and it still came out buggy all the things we want are gonna be in there they already got the layout of NightCity the just gotta expand it.
I think cutting the train was a good call. So many resources for something most players will see once till fast travel is available. Maybe twice if they wrote a quest for it. Im more upset about flying vehicles. The mod didan amazing job so we knowit wouldn't break the game
It does break the game though. I was able to go to many places that shouldn't be accessible, because flying cars allowed you to get to places you shouldn't be. Probably one of the driving reasons it was cut or never implemented as a gameplay mechanic. The way they build this city was done in a hurry, and they needed to hide secrets because half of the map is a hastily put-together illusion. Flying cars destroy that illusion. I'm not saying I like it, but I was a game development graduate and it's a decision i'd probably make as well.
I am close to unlocking the freight rail system. I have actual signs and lights in a Valentino neighborhood. I am also about to unlock public busses. There is 1 thing I would like you to clip behind. There is a place very north of the map near the border. I believe this might be fresh behind it the wall. It is near the abandoned gas station wrath nomads. Protect it
I find the large underground N Cart station somewhat bizarre being that N Cart in the rest of the city is clearly a Monorail suspended high above the city streets. Wondering if that was actually supposed to be a Maglev station instead, as we constantly see the Maglev trains run through tunnels underground, especially around Pacifica. Presumably the N-cart trains should've looked different to how they are in game, hell even Edgerunners alters their outer appearance so the interiors make sense such as we see in Edgerunners and the 2018 trailer. I believe they finally use those interiors in game during the Phantom Liberty ending when you take the train to the Orbital Air Rocket with So-Mi, and again, the exterior of the train looks vastly different to N-Cart. I find it odd that the Maglev doesn't go anywhere or isn't present anywhere above ground. We know that it clearly operated 7 years ago and that some of it was above ground leaving the city as Reed jumps onto it in the cinematic trailer.
Yeah I think so too, at least the lower track. Someone else (Deconstructing the Game?) hinted at it being the unfinished maglev a year ago, and showed how the path of the tracks would connect underground.
@@Yusuke_Denton Interesting. So is it possible there were just two public transport systems intended for the city or was the Maglev originally intended to actually take us somewhere else. I would genuinely love to know the original concepts for the game, yanno plot and everything, because Johnny clearly wasn't the main focus originally! Sadly we likely will never know. :(
One of the above-ground monorail tracks clearly goes underground, and a straight line would connect that track under the map to the Corp Plaza station. He's already done a video on this; the track that goes underground is the one that has the neon color-changing squares that alternate pink-green-orange in Heywood. It is completely plausible because that the track that dips under the map and abruptly cuts off has the same underground entrance type as the Corpo Plaza station, and is also capped off in the same way. Its obvious an underground tunnel system was either deleted, or never properly started, and the development was cut off with producing the areas that we got.
I am positive that in a future modders and game designers will proceed to massively finish detail of Night City, adding major interiors of megabuildings, adding stations, adding whole sections where players can wander. I am not certain whether or not this "reverse engineering" will happen in Unreal, or Red Engine will linger on for some time. If CDPR is smart about it, they will crowdsource design and development, do in-house clean-up of these desgns over time, make certain that the whole process seamlessly migrates into Unreal over time. There is potential for "a return to Night City", taking content from mods, and essentially doubling the functional real estate in Night City - or even have it go exponential well before 2030. This city is a labour of love in both creators as well as players and modders. People will not let this go. This game will not die, even if CDPR as a game company would die. In a perfect world, by 2040 Night City is majorly filled in, will run in Unreal, will have multiple career paths, several new ending for V, will have subsumed most mods into itself, and will have ben re-assimilated by some form of CDPR management. There may be gameplay unthinkable for today, maybe even options for completely different characters and character arcs, timelines and storylines. I know multiplayer games tend to rot because of low player quality, but I can imagine group play where a number of players go through a series of game challenges as a team. I can even see such endeavours have an X-rated quality. there is a lot of pornographic potential for Night City and demand certainly exists. Leveling up your Mister Stud / Venus Flower, anyone?
they clearly try to make this as the fast travel system at first, but since it's too complicated and too "inconvenient" since they may also try to cover some fast travel point with delmain taxi and also flying vehicle which got axed... they have no choice but also to axed this feature.
I don't understand why people are so crazy about this metro that wasn't added in the end. Nobody would use that. I'm more than sure that people would try it once or twice and then they'd beg CD Project for fast travel between some waypoints just like in Witcher 3 or currently in CP2077. You can unblock it with mod, it's still better to either drive by car or just teleport to some part of the map.
You can disagree all you want, but history shows it to be the truth. On average, most players are not going to use systems like that very often, if at all. Exceptions aren't the rule and in a game that clearly needed more time in the oven, it's an acceptable loss. Of course, they should have just gave last gen console players the middle finger. That really hurt them, trying to get this game working on last gen.
@@chrispekel5709That's true. They're a big company and gotta focus on what most players want, not what players like me want. Too bad they showed trains in the promos.
@@Yusuke_Denton yeah, that was their mistake. They made it look like they were going to do something interesting with them and dropped it. All the stations are proof of this.
Great videos, mate. Been exploring on Xbox a bit as well, as much as possible. Upon closer inspection, the illusion of this otherwise epic game falls apart. I suppose they were really underestimating the amount of work designing a large city and outskirts would take.
oh deanford I'm sorry to hear that, the kingdom has been sleepy for a little bit of time. You are always welcome to join back, please don't feel like you're not wanted
Although cyberpunk is playable now and the game has greatly improved, I still wish we got these interactive more immersive things we were told about such as the metro system. It’s a shame how lots of these appear to have been worked on at some point but never made it to the end stage.
Like many things in the game, I imagine the scope for NCART ended up becoming too bloated and eventually had to be hastily cut in favor of the current fast travel system in order to hit deadlines. I also imagine they'd rather close everything off and not implement much rather than implement half baked systems of bog down the system with interiors that aren't going to be meaningfully used. I assume NCART was meant to be the fast travel, probably being able to board and walk around the train or sit in the seats freely, along with the ability to skip to the next stop like we see in current car rides with NPCs. Given the seedy, often secretive narrative of the game, I could also see a lot of meetups on trains or in stations to exchange information, payment, or just have a more dramatic character interaction. Maybe even altercations, I could easily see a Beat the Brat mission occurring on an NCART. As far as some of the design elements, I assume the top/bottom of the rails is kind of meant like an uptown/downtown. Trains on the same route going in opposite directions (often seen on opposite sides of platforms in real life in places like NYC). It's sad this vision, or whatever vision CDPR had in mind, couldn't have been fleshed out to add further life to the game and the city. Along with the casino and especially Brain Dances, it's pretty easy to see how these systems were probably intended to fit into the game but there just wasn't the time, staff, or resources to get those across the finish line.
I remember contacting CDPR on Facebook (yes, it’s that long ago) if there will be public transportation in the game. They even answered and said most likely, but it isn’t decided finally yet. I was so bummed when it was cut. Then I was thrilled they took the time to implement it, but I thought it was rushed. I would have loved to actually use the stations and roam free inside the train. 😢
It's sad that it got cut out, but look at gta 5, it has a fully functional metro system but no one has ever used it, it's so much more fun to drive around
I was hoping for a final cyberpsycho mission from Regina where you have to hunt down and incapacitate an escaping psycho in a NCART station eventually fighting them above a moving train.
I'm guessing suspended monorail trains were supposed to go in one direction and top trains in the other direction. But there are multitrack side by side stations as well, so at some point the train would have to move up.
So sadge about lack of public transportation. Would love taking the tube, or bus, getting a robery thing in transit... Delamain start quest is an obious "use public transports" but sadly so much of the project got scratched. We even got a tube trailer of the game.
I'm more than sure that you wouldn't use the metro system more than once. Train was useful in RDR2 as map was HUGE and riding by a horse took a while. But in NC metro system wouldn't be faster than car travel.
@@Faltery I travel on bike to every single gig in 1st person.. Fast travel in Cyberpunk takes 0 time, still i don't use it, and sleep 6 to 8 h everty 24 h cycle. Am not playing a game, rather playing an interactive movie. I don't even skip rides with Takemura or Claire.
I definitely think it was something they were hoping to include in the game. Given how they do have attempts at interiors. I feel the problem is like that blue station with double levels for either side and npcs spawning they had a difficult time with the AI walking on and off the trains and making it so the AI will move using the network. It problem got very complicated and time delays it got gutted. I am sure if more time was allowed they probably would have wanted a fully working Ncart system working through out.
100%, loads of data mined screenshots show huge interiors for NCART stations. Way, way more immersive than what the update brought in. But, as always, old gen held this back
The mod is cool but it really feels like a mod. Just too rough around the edges. Plus, it’s not even about the trains themselves for me, it’s the environments. The huge stations packed with npcs that we won’t ever see…
Mind blowing how much remained un the game and I love that modders "fixed" it on PC but as a console Choom I have to wonder how much smoother everything would run on the weaker systems if they at least would delete the now obsolete colliders and textures maybe even the meshes.
All games have cut content, not just CP2077. The devs didn't even promise the transit system, or a lot of the features people felt like they were "supposed to get". I'd be interested to see what they will do in the sequel though, because I would like to see a lot of systems that they might have thought about adding earlier in development like a transit system.
There is a mod for that but I never have interest in it since I would bet all my marbles that most players would just use it once or twice max and never ever use it again.
@@Yusuke_Denton Well because there is a mod that would make your cars fly or let you fast travel anywhere. No one has the time to go to a specific spot, ride the elevator, push some buttons and ride a train. Like I said most would just use it once or twice on their very first playthrough then go back to using waypoints again. Players like me who have already have multiple playthroughs because I like to do different builds and do one of the multiple endings on that one specific V will not even bother to even ride it even once.
@@venvengSo YOU don't have interest in it. Nothing to do with other players. (like me who already have multiple playthroughs and never use fast travel) No problem. 👍
As much better as CP2077 has gotten, it's still only a shadow of older GTA games. Even as far back as GTA 3 IMO, but especially GTA 4 was a far better realised and more living world to explore than CP2077.
Hmm, with the above and below maybe the below one seen in Edgerunners is the general public use train and the above one that we have in game is for corpos/ higher class individuals considering how small the in game ones are.
Mmh I would say the trains are capable to use track both types of track. That could be possible that it can choose on the way which type it use depend on the Track. That would be clear to use track in both direction with same cars
One of the most disappointing aspects of Cyberpunk 2077's release. A metropolis with a train system that isn't even usable by the player and just abandoned. And yet, the cinematic trailer features it. The prime example of how the game is a cardboard cut out. So many 3D assets worked on by developers but abandoned by publishing for the sake of deadlines, and will never get touched now. Seeing all of the planned and partly worked on spaces in the game is so pitiful.
The ridable Metro was scrapped for one very good reason: they realized it simply wasn't fun. When you look at comparable systems in the few games that actually have them, you quickly find yourself getting bored of them and wishing you'd just fast traveled; the novelty wears off in about 2 minutes.
@@knowtheplan472, still doesn't make metro system interesting. Well, at least when you are using it by design. You can always ride a train… literally. And you was able to do this even in patch 1.2
this game literally just teases all cool stuff right in front of the players. like it just really makes me upset seeing everything THERE but it’s just fucking unused. Like WHYYYY
It's such a shame that we never got to have the N-CART. You can see it was all planned out, but I have a suspicion the investors wanted their money, and so they rushed the game (obviously we know the truth now) and we got f*cked. There was so much content that was cut from this game, As I said, it's a damn shame. This game could have gone down as one of the greatest games in history.
Eh not too focused on the “what we never got” I enjoyed what we did get on this expansion. Hopefully CP2.0 comes out and it’ll expand on the world, would love to see old art come to life in game
Thank you for these videos. My theory why there is no trains in the game is parallel with the last gen consoles optimization (and faliure). I think at some point the PC version worked well it wasn't finished of course but looked okay for the developers and they intended to start downgrade the graphics the last gen consoles and they realized that even without the trains PS4 and Xbone can't handle the game and they started to optimize 100% speed but Covid came and they had to develop the game from home which is sad that nobody talks about it, so I think they just cut some content from the game to be somewhat playable on those old consoles. After that I think they had to finish the PC port too in a very short time and in the end it became a bad release. From these cut content I really believe that they wanted to make a game that nobody see before but the time wasn't enough and the big dreams never became a thing. I think if the game would have released first on PC only and the picture would have been very different. And later optimize for last gen consoles and current gen consoles. Covid and many other circumstanses made them to drop their dreams and try to release a decent game.
Basically it's a pretty locked down secret that only a few veterans now about, I would tell you but it would put my safety at risk. It's from nexus mods
Saw your petrochem stadium video recently, and according to this noclip series can you try to go to the (i dont even know what that is exacly) "replica (or whatever that is) of NC"? Its located behind the sea, about 5-7km from map. Just go entirely west on noclip, untill you encounter loading bar on top left and most important, DONT MOVE THE MOUSE WHILE ITS LOADING OR IS LOADED, then you will see like replica of Night City. If you dont belive me just make a random pinpoint on map and you will see that its on map behind you, not on the map in front of you
Sounds cool, but I feel like it would be useless. Maybe some RPers would find it cool, but as we play as a person whose clock is ticking, I doubt public transportation is an ideal form of transport.
for me it's less about the physical action of using a train for transportation and more the environments that come bundled with it. Like being immersed in a bustling station with criminal activity, heaps of npcs etc.
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the lack of the train system really makes me sad. It was literally the first thing we saw from the "in game engine" back in 2018
It was in game engine but it was cinematic
Be sad no more, it's finally being added!
@@QuantaStarfire yes! it also looks just like this trailer and i think it will have quests inside of it :D
I remember watching this a few weeks ago still bummed that Phantom Liberty didn't add it. I was on copium for the longest time and finally decided to come to terms with them not adding a metro system and now the mad lads have done it. 😂
The last patches introduced It without the use of mods.
I highly recommend the Metro mod on PC. It adds a functional rail system and utilizes many of the cut areas from your video. It was interesting to see the empty buildings where the mod nicely fills them with objects and a metro map that shows all of the possible routes.
Unfortunately its a very buggy mod, it causes lip sync issues, never ending metro sounds on districts, crashes etc. I hope the author remakes.
My problem with the mod is, that it only uses one cart and not an entire train
Wait this mod still works post 2.0?? Thats surprising
@@orbit1894 Have you actually used the mod? It doesn't cause any of these issues at all. Stop talking bullshit
@@DMGainathere are mods to fix this, utilizing the 2018 metro carts
I can't even put into words how much I love and hate seeing all this cut content in Cyberpunk. It's like going through an ancient world looking at what may have been. Thanks for the really interesting videos on these.
How can it be cut content if it was never intended to be in the game in the first place?
@@dannyfrost1746 I mean, it would have to be cut content. Why on earth would CDPR build all of these stations and train lines that have some parts finished if they had never fully intended to do it.
Here's hoping that we will see functional metro carts for CDPR's next Cyberpunk game. I still believe that they wasted a lot of time on that PS4 build which resulted in a lot of content getting cut.
@@DanakarEndeel Why is this so important? you know very well that nobody going to this frequently, I'd rather have 1 or 2 extra quests than stupid metro system.
@@DanakarEndeel Yeah the decision to make it run on last gen probably led to a lot of the major issues at launch
At the start of act two there is that one scripted event where you lose access to your car for a while, I'm fairly certain that CDPR originally intended that mission to then prompt you to take the train over to Delemain's HQ downtown. Act two starts off with several missions that take place across different districts of NC, and you will have already spent the entirety of act one in Watson so it seems like a bizarre design choice to limit the player to have to stay within walking distance of their apartment for the multiple real hours it takes for the car to be fixed.
this aged well lmao
I'm sure he's glad to be proven wrong!
Still, kinda sad the interaction is so limited :/
It aged fine, the game for 4 years of its life & even when this video was made didn’t have the system that was promised lmao they should be ashamed it took so long. It’s a shocker they turned this pile of shit into a half decent game
Dog.. game was released 3-4 years ago...
Video came out couple months ago.. it aged fine my man..
You can tell he was excited to come back and say that, as if it makes up for the game being crap for most of its life
The lower levels at the corpo plaza station are mostlikely locked because they are meant for the new maglev network connection which is at the time of 2077 still under construction. The tunnel is supposed to connect Night City and Chicago in 2080. It already exists in the game and is being used in one of the endings of the basegame, the other end of the tunnel is the large constructionsite on the northeast of night city.
What ending is the tunnel being used it? I cannot recall seeing a trainstation in any of the endings
@@aiden4112 wasnt about to go into detail because of potential spoilers, but when Raiding Arasaka Tower with Panam you use the Basilisk to enter the Constructionsite northeast of NC and follow that tunnel all the way down to corpo plaza, the tunnel isnt connected with the Train station yet but it ends not that far away from it. At the end of the tunnel you use that giant drilling machine to just dig towards the Arasaka Tower basement. The train station and the Arasaka Tower are basically right next to each other. You can also use no clip and check it out for yourself, unless you are not on PC. But you still can use that tunnel by playing the ending with Panam.
@@oJexaz ohhh okay you kick-started my memory. I've done the Panam ending the least so I very roughly remember what happens in it. Thanks dude 😎👍
Aldecado ending@@aiden4112
IRL having a train on top and one on bottom allows for them to run in both directions and helps handle more people. I imagine that was the intention with their track setup.
Yeah, that was what I was thinking also, would allow you to use one track for both directions.
Again a bit of context: The metro system was a bit more complex in previous versions with carts being able to run above and under the tracks.
The metro also had actual stops as seen in the 48 min demo (when V and Jackie are driving under the underpass in Kabuki, look at the roof, there's a cart slowly accelerating out of the station there.).
The system was cut in 2019 as
1. The core team was spread thin anyways
2. There were a lot of issues with the streaming system (some issues are still in the shipped game i.e. when carts are just left behin and stuck in the middle of the track)
3. One of the biggest issues was AI. Crowd agents simply cant have the budget of "normal" (enemy, companion,...) AI as there can be hundrets in screen. That severely limited their interaction with the metro (getting on and off, doing stuff inside there, also some quests and encounters playing in the metro (prototyped but didnt go far))
Taking all these issues into account and also looking at GTAs tram system which 1% of players ever used (and probably forgot about soon after), it just could not be justified spending more time on it when devs were needed elsewhere.
Don't forget that the gtaV tram is useless because it deserve 2% of the entire map.
Compare it to the gtaIV train, this one was perfectly useful and cyberpunk could have been as good as this one...
@@Robin-wr3qv true
i didnt even know that exsited in gta and ive been playing that game on and off since release @@Robin-wr3qv
This was one of the main things I was hoping for in the dlc. So sad
What does it add? They only have a certain amount of resources
Yo
@@chrispekel5709Clearly they had enough resources to add it if they’re gonna add it to 2.1
@@pryebloo63 This is true and very very surprising
If thats true you deserved to be sad.
Its sad that it never got in the game i would use it for sure bcz i "mirror's edge" parkour most of the time in the city to the quests and this trains would give the game a more urban feeling and more identity.
true and flying cars, because I play it on the xbox
Nah, i'm glad they didn't waste Dev-time on it, considdering all the other and far more important things that desperately needed work.
This aged well
GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE!
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Who’s watching this after they added the train system
Everyone:
Watched reveal trailer showing V riding a train
CDPR:
What? You thought that would be in game? Ha! Ha! Thanks for your money!
*shrug* the game is massive. Who cares? It's something that some people will use occasionally for immersion, but with cars, bikes and fast travel ..
Seems kind of a petty thing to be making a tired and old joke for.
@@James_Bee Too big. Far too much space and far too little in it. Would've benefitted from a smaller map and focusing more on the important things.
@@Jimmer93seeing how cdpr adding phantom liberty. I think they could add many cut content back to the game
@@Open6a-fx4qf They won't though. And there's no reason to do so, it wouldn't change anything at this point. The game's three years old already now. They won't be doing much more with it bar a few fixes here and there.
They announced cutting the metro system back in 2019, well before the games release.
I love seeing places of the city that aren't playable, i love cyberpunk 2077 and i love your videos about this, keep up the good work! 👍
Glad to hear it thanks for sticking around :)
Well we are getting it now lol
lets fuckin GOOO
you can actully see the train suspended in the very first gameplay reveal trailer for a brief moment when v comes outside of megabuilding, also the designs of the train is lil different there.
there's a nice mod which replicates the trains seen in that 2018 footage, looks great and is actually ripped from the game's files. So the interiors of trains were genuinely developed, just never finished.
I loved cyberpunks immersion, only if they could have completed the ncart, casino and more verticle parts of the night city it would have been a 10/10 game for me, sad to see they are done with the major updates, but hopefully we'll see much more areas in sequel! Btw love your anylysis videos!
You're wrong, the interior is from the bus you get to go inside during one of the endings..@@SirMZK
@@dannyfrost1746 there's another mod which also changes the interior of the trains to one which looks like e3 train interiors
We're finally getting this in 2.1 holy shit i would have never thought!
I mean that's how it is during a strike, nothing or almost nothing moves
missing metro in CP..... biggest most immersive feature missing for me !!! If they release the game in state 2.0 with metro system.... wow that will be a almost homerun AAA title :)
That's definitely the point that annoyed me the most about cyberpunk 2077. The first trailer of the game showed us a huge transit map and V in a metro! Metro should have been a main transit system of the game... There was even an artwork with v and arasaka in the train.
you mean a movie clip. the point was to highlight the lore, not actual gameplay.
Ha they added it 😂
I don’t even care for your video type often but I’m subscribing cause those analytics are crazy & you deserve the subs.
The rail system would have been major for casual on foot exploration. Right now hopping in the car is the main way to traverse the city. You miss out on a lot of details, a lot of corners and niches. The railway might have fixed that, made the city feel bigger
Great video! I really with CDPR made one big update that doesn't add any story missions, but instead fleshes out the Night City and adds the cut content. A fully functional metro system would add so much in terms of immersion and city design. I would gladly leave my car and just soak in the environment by taking trains.
Looks like your dream came true lol
Teach me this power you have LOL
@@kushagrragkalra1645 It does seem prophetic, doesn't it?
Cyberpunk Orion gonna have all these feature back it's obvious the were constrained on time they delayed the game 3 times and it still came out buggy all the things we want are gonna be in there they already got the layout of NightCity the just gotta expand it.
yaaa about that one...can proudly say it has been added
@2:20 there is an old E3 video with the train going under the tracks, crossing a freeway.
see I thought I remembered seeing this but couldn't pinpoint where from
I think cutting the train was a good call. So many resources for something most players will see once till fast travel is available. Maybe twice if they wrote a quest for it.
Im more upset about flying vehicles.
The mod didan amazing job so we knowit wouldn't break the game
It does break the game though. I was able to go to many places that shouldn't be accessible, because flying cars allowed you to get to places you shouldn't be. Probably one of the driving reasons it was cut or never implemented as a gameplay mechanic. The way they build this city was done in a hurry, and they needed to hide secrets because half of the map is a hastily put-together illusion. Flying cars destroy that illusion. I'm not saying I like it, but I was a game development graduate and it's a decision i'd probably make as well.
I am close to unlocking the freight rail system. I have actual signs and lights in a Valentino neighborhood. I am also about to unlock public busses. There is 1 thing I would like you to clip behind. There is a place very north of the map near the border. I believe this might be fresh behind it the wall. It is near the abandoned gas station wrath nomads. Protect it
Great work, sounds very interesting
quick question, I am playing on GeForce Now and own cyberpunk on Steam. Can I use mods?
@@attashemk8985 just trying to make Richard Night dream come alive. Night City is a place of dreams.
@@QuikkNic I don't know. I am on PS5. Everything I do is by myself with lots of time.
@@i3deal that’s amazing, how do you do it?
Praying modders can unlock most of these areas and populate them.
there is already a NCART mod for PC and it's decent
They already have.
And now we are getting it with patch 2.1 lesgo!
Never say never!
I find the large underground N Cart station somewhat bizarre being that N Cart in the rest of the city is clearly a Monorail suspended high above the city streets. Wondering if that was actually supposed to be a Maglev station instead, as we constantly see the Maglev trains run through tunnels underground, especially around Pacifica. Presumably the N-cart trains should've looked different to how they are in game, hell even Edgerunners alters their outer appearance so the interiors make sense such as we see in Edgerunners and the 2018 trailer. I believe they finally use those interiors in game during the Phantom Liberty ending when you take the train to the Orbital Air Rocket with So-Mi, and again, the exterior of the train looks vastly different to N-Cart.
I find it odd that the Maglev doesn't go anywhere or isn't present anywhere above ground. We know that it clearly operated 7 years ago and that some of it was above ground leaving the city as Reed jumps onto it in the cinematic trailer.
Yeah I think so too, at least the lower track. Someone else (Deconstructing the Game?) hinted at it being the unfinished maglev a year ago, and showed how the path of the tracks would connect underground.
@@Yusuke_Denton Interesting. So is it possible there were just two public transport systems intended for the city or was the Maglev originally intended to actually take us somewhere else. I would genuinely love to know the original concepts for the game, yanno plot and everything, because Johnny clearly wasn't the main focus originally! Sadly we likely will never know. :(
One of the above-ground monorail tracks clearly goes underground, and a straight line would connect that track under the map to the Corp Plaza station. He's already done a video on this; the track that goes underground is the one that has the neon color-changing squares that alternate pink-green-orange in Heywood. It is completely plausible because that the track that dips under the map and abruptly cuts off has the same underground entrance type as the Corpo Plaza station, and is also capped off in the same way. Its obvious an underground tunnel system was either deleted, or never properly started, and the development was cut off with producing the areas that we got.
I am positive that in a future modders and game designers will proceed to massively finish detail of Night City, adding major interiors of megabuildings, adding stations, adding whole sections where players can wander. I am not certain whether or not this "reverse engineering" will happen in Unreal, or Red Engine will linger on for some time. If CDPR is smart about it, they will crowdsource design and development, do in-house clean-up of these desgns over time, make certain that the whole process seamlessly migrates into Unreal over time. There is potential for "a return to Night City", taking content from mods, and essentially doubling the functional real estate in Night City - or even have it go exponential well before 2030. This city is a labour of love in both creators as well as players and modders. People will not let this go. This game will not die, even if CDPR as a game company would die.
In a perfect world, by 2040 Night City is majorly filled in, will run in Unreal, will have multiple career paths, several new ending for V, will have subsumed most mods into itself, and will have ben re-assimilated by some form of CDPR management. There may be gameplay unthinkable for today, maybe even options for completely different characters and character arcs, timelines and storylines. I know multiplayer games tend to rot because of low player quality, but I can imagine group play where a number of players go through a series of game challenges as a team. I can even see such endeavours have an X-rated quality. there is a lot of pornographic potential for Night City and demand certainly exists. Leveling up your Mister Stud / Venus Flower, anyone?
they clearly try to make this as the fast travel system at first, but since it's too complicated and too "inconvenient" since they may also try to cover some fast travel point with delmain taxi and also flying vehicle which got axed... they have no choice but also to axed this feature.
Hey just found you 2 days ago! Really enjoying all those videos, being a bit on a binge lol
Keep up the nice videos! 😃
Just the voice and the accent of this man are worth subscribing. The video is great too! Keep it up man.
thank you very much, pleasure to have you on board ;)
i think the next Cyberpunk game DOES NOT need to look better, they just need to make things more functionable
I don't understand why people are so crazy about this metro that wasn't added in the end. Nobody would use that. I'm more than sure that people would try it once or twice and then they'd beg CD Project for fast travel between some waypoints just like in Witcher 3 or currently in CP2077. You can unblock it with mod, it's still better to either drive by car or just teleport to some part of the map.
I completely disagree, but that's pretty much the reasons the lead designer gave as to why they would not be finishing the metro in CP2077.
You can disagree all you want, but history shows it to be the truth. On average, most players are not going to use systems like that very often, if at all.
Exceptions aren't the rule and in a game that clearly needed more time in the oven, it's an acceptable loss.
Of course, they should have just gave last gen console players the middle finger. That really hurt them, trying to get this game working on last gen.
@@Yusuke_Denton most players used the trains in GTA *once* and then never again. CDPR knew this
@@chrispekel5709That's true. They're a big company and gotta focus on what most players want, not what players like me want. Too bad they showed trains in the promos.
@@Yusuke_Denton yeah, that was their mistake. They made it look like they were going to do something interesting with them and dropped it. All the stations are proof of this.
Great videos, mate. Been exploring on Xbox a bit as well, as much as possible. Upon closer inspection, the illusion of this otherwise epic game falls apart. I suppose they were really underestimating the amount of work designing a large city and outskirts would take.
Its such a shame they cut this, it would have been awesome to have drivebys and gunfights on the trains
WE GOT IT BABY!
I'm still both sad and angry it never got completed.
You don't have be anymore
Joined the kingdom, no one returned my hellos, left said kingdom. Will enjoy your videos despite that!
oh deanford I'm sorry to hear that, the kingdom has been sleepy for a little bit of time. You are always welcome to join back, please don't feel like you're not wanted
9:40 the door is used during q003 The Pickup quest in the next to the big red button that starts the production line
Although cyberpunk is playable now and the game has greatly improved, I still wish we got these interactive more immersive things we were told about such as the metro system. It’s a shame how lots of these appear to have been worked on at some point but never made it to the end stage.
They’ve made it to the end :3
yes thats very sad, all the time i see these trains driving by , and im never able to actually go inside them and enjoy the view
Cant wait for them to add these is 2.1!
Like many things in the game, I imagine the scope for NCART ended up becoming too bloated and eventually had to be hastily cut in favor of the current fast travel system in order to hit deadlines. I also imagine they'd rather close everything off and not implement much rather than implement half baked systems of bog down the system with interiors that aren't going to be meaningfully used.
I assume NCART was meant to be the fast travel, probably being able to board and walk around the train or sit in the seats freely, along with the ability to skip to the next stop like we see in current car rides with NPCs. Given the seedy, often secretive narrative of the game, I could also see a lot of meetups on trains or in stations to exchange information, payment, or just have a more dramatic character interaction. Maybe even altercations, I could easily see a Beat the Brat mission occurring on an NCART.
As far as some of the design elements, I assume the top/bottom of the rails is kind of meant like an uptown/downtown. Trains on the same route going in opposite directions (often seen on opposite sides of platforms in real life in places like NYC).
It's sad this vision, or whatever vision CDPR had in mind, couldn't have been fleshed out to add further life to the game and the city. Along with the casino and especially Brain Dances, it's pretty easy to see how these systems were probably intended to fit into the game but there just wasn't the time, staff, or resources to get those across the finish line.
I remember contacting CDPR on Facebook (yes, it’s that long ago) if there will be public transportation in the game. They even answered and said most likely, but it isn’t decided finally yet. I was so bummed when it was cut. Then I was thrilled they took the time to implement it, but I thought it was rushed. I would have loved to actually use the stations and roam free inside the train. 😢
how about them apples!
Been subscribed since the first video of yours I watched. And the least I can do given the effort you put in. JFC, folks, just press the damn button.
It's sad that it got cut out, but look at gta 5, it has a fully functional metro system but no one has ever used it, it's so much more fun to drive around
Have you played Watch Dogs?
I was hoping for a final cyberpsycho mission from Regina where you have to hunt down and incapacitate an escaping psycho in a NCART station eventually fighting them above a moving train.
I'm guessing suspended monorail trains were supposed to go in one direction and top trains in the other direction. But there are multitrack side by side stations as well, so at some point the train would have to move up.
When I see you videos on Cyberpunk I think of all the memory on my PC being wasted
We are finally getting NCART !!!
So sadge about lack of public transportation. Would love taking the tube, or bus, getting a robery thing in transit... Delamain start quest is an obious "use public transports" but sadly so much of the project got scratched. We even got a tube trailer of the game.
I'm more than sure that you wouldn't use the metro system more than once. Train was useful in RDR2 as map was HUGE and riding by a horse took a while. But in NC metro system wouldn't be faster than car travel.
@@Faltery I travel on bike to every single gig in 1st person.. Fast travel in Cyberpunk takes 0 time, still i don't use it, and sleep 6 to 8 h everty 24 h cycle. Am not playing a game, rather playing an interactive movie. I don't even skip rides with Takemura or Claire.
Many ncart stations and terms you can use to leave from, but you can't choose as a drop point. There is a forum post that is talking about these.
On the bright side there's a train trip if you make certain choices (ie: SIMP!!) in PL
I definitely think it was something they were hoping to include in the game. Given how they do have attempts at interiors. I feel the problem is like that blue station with double levels for either side and npcs spawning they had a difficult time with the AI walking on and off the trains and making it so the AI will move using the network. It problem got very complicated and time delays it got gutted. I am sure if more time was allowed they probably would have wanted a fully working Ncart system working through out.
100%, loads of data mined screenshots show huge interiors for NCART stations. Way, way more immersive than what the update brought in. But, as always, old gen held this back
@@SirMZK Id really like to see these ngl
Here after the announcement…
we have it now! I don't always use it but if I want to be dramatic and be more immersed, I ride the train 😂
Whenever a creator tells the analytics of subscriber count I automatically decide to NEVER sub, if the content is good enough the subs will follow.
That's just ignorant.
Yes, and I am still pissed that this system is abandoned. The mod is just temporary panacea
The mod is cool but it really feels like a mod. Just too rough around the edges. Plus, it’s not even about the trains themselves for me, it’s the environments. The huge stations packed with npcs that we won’t ever see…
Cyberpunk 2077. All frosting, no cake.
Well, the cake is a lie after all. Maybe you didn't play that side quest :/
Mind blowing how much remained un the game and I love that modders "fixed" it on PC but as a console Choom I have to wonder how much smoother everything would run on the weaker systems if they at least would delete the now obsolete colliders and textures maybe even the meshes.
Imagine cyberpunk if it had everything it was supposed to. My lord.
All games have cut content, not just CP2077. The devs didn't even promise the transit system, or a lot of the features people felt like they were "supposed to get". I'd be interested to see what they will do in the sequel though, because I would like to see a lot of systems that they might have thought about adding earlier in development like a transit system.
There is a mod for that but I never have interest in it since I would bet all my marbles that most players would just use it once or twice max and never ever use it again.
You don't have interest in the mod because most other players wouldn't use it? Huh?
I use the metro mod all the time btw. (before 2.0 anyway)
@@Yusuke_Denton Well because there is a mod that would make your cars fly or let you fast travel anywhere. No one has the time to go to a specific spot, ride the elevator, push some buttons and ride a train. Like I said most would just use it once or twice on their very first playthrough then go back to using waypoints again. Players like me who have already have multiple playthroughs because I like to do different builds and do one of the multiple endings on that one specific V will not even bother to even ride it even once.
@@venvengSo YOU don't have interest in it. Nothing to do with other players. (like me who already have multiple playthroughs and never use fast travel) No problem. 👍
As much better as CP2077 has gotten, it's still only a shadow of older GTA games. Even as far back as GTA 3 IMO, but especially GTA 4 was a far better realised and more living world to explore than CP2077.
Hmm, with the above and below maybe the below one seen in Edgerunners is the general public use train and the above one that we have in game is for corpos/ higher class individuals considering how small the in game ones are.
Nuh, they just likely made a mistake. It happens
Something you didn't mention is that the NCART stations turn to red when the police is after you.
Bro really played the "most of your are unsubbed" card :D
Happy to be in the 3%!
Smash that like button.
Until patch 2.1😁
I love ur content, keep it up man ‼️
Seeing all the stuff not added into the game makes me exited for orion
Mmh I would say the trains are capable to use track both types of track. That could be possible that it can choose on the way which type it use depend on the Track. That would be clear to use track in both direction with same cars
One of the most disappointing aspects of Cyberpunk 2077's release.
A metropolis with a train system that isn't even usable by the player and just abandoned.
And yet, the cinematic trailer features it.
The prime example of how the game is a cardboard cut out.
So many 3D assets worked on by developers but abandoned by publishing for the sake of deadlines, and will never get touched now.
Seeing all of the planned and partly worked on spaces in the game is so pitiful.
The ridable Metro was scrapped for one very good reason: they realized it simply wasn't fun. When you look at comparable systems in the few games that actually have them, you quickly find yourself getting bored of them and wishing you'd just fast traveled; the novelty wears off in about 2 minutes.
they finished this actually the trains are fully working now
@@knowtheplan472, still doesn't make metro system interesting.
Well, at least when you are using it by design. You can always ride a train… literally. And you was able to do this even in patch 1.2
plz make a video on all the megabuidings and how they are unused, even V's own buildings floors
hehe that is certainly on its way believe me
this game literally just teases all cool stuff right in front of the players. like it just really makes me upset seeing everything THERE but it’s just fucking unused. Like WHYYYY
Corporation greed
The game has 100+ hours of BADASS content, yet you choose to focus on what's not there. Sad way to live
@@ALaz502 wdym it is there, cdpr is just a bad company and didn’t give us anything fun
@@GherkinsMaybe you just don't deserve?
Say sike
I feel like we got about 60% of the actual game, such is the state of "modern" game development.
It's such a shame that we never got to have the N-CART. You can see it was all planned out, but I have a suspicion the investors wanted their money, and so they rushed the game (obviously we know the truth now) and we got f*cked. There was so much content that was cut from this game, As I said, it's a damn shame. This game could have gone down as one of the greatest games in history.
Yes PLEASE THROW YOUR METRICS AT US TO MAKE US FEEL BAD 0:22 . That'll only make us want more!
BU- BUT IF YOU DONT FEEL BAD THEN WHERE WILL MY SUBBY WUBBYS COME FROM uwu
@@SirMZK save it for the metric portion of your video.
Eh not too focused on the “what we never got” I enjoyed what we did get on this expansion. Hopefully CP2.0 comes out and it’ll expand on the world, would love to see old art come to life in game
Hhmm but the 2.0 has been out for a month
@@dzikripratama3776 I’m referring to a rumor going around about a second game
Now we do !
I subbed today
There's a reason they run under the track in the anime - they made a mistake
It's strange... the roller coaster works surely it's the same principle for metro
Added in Patch 2.1 😁❤
Thank you for these videos. My theory why there is no trains in the game is parallel with the last gen consoles optimization (and faliure). I think at some point the PC version worked well it wasn't finished of course but looked okay for the developers and they intended to start downgrade the graphics the last gen consoles and they realized that even without the trains PS4 and Xbone can't handle the game and they started to optimize 100% speed but Covid came and they had to develop the game from home which is sad that nobody talks about it, so I think they just cut some content from the game to be somewhat playable on those old consoles. After that I think they had to finish the PC port too in a very short time and in the end it became a bad release. From these cut content I really believe that they wanted to make a game that nobody see before but the time wasn't enough and the big dreams never became a thing. I think if the game would have released first on PC only and the picture would have been very different. And later optimize for last gen consoles and current gen consoles. Covid and many other circumstanses made them to drop their dreams and try to release a decent game.
Here's to hoping they add a train system!
What is this power you have
@@kushagrragkalra1645 LOL
Soooo... About that.
where the hell did you get a flashlight !
Basically it's a pretty locked down secret that only a few veterans now about, I would tell you but it would put my safety at risk.
It's from nexus mods
i subbed! i’m not apart of the 97% woot!
that's what we like to see welcome :)
Saw your petrochem stadium video recently, and according to this noclip series can you try to go to the (i dont even know what that is exacly) "replica (or whatever that is) of NC"? Its located behind the sea, about 5-7km from map. Just go entirely west on noclip, untill you encounter loading bar on top left and most important, DONT MOVE THE MOUSE WHILE ITS LOADING OR IS LOADED, then you will see like replica of Night City. If you dont belive me just make a random pinpoint on map and you will see that its on map behind you, not on the map in front of you
Sounds cool, but I feel like it would be useless. Maybe some RPers would find it cool, but as we play as a person whose clock is ticking, I doubt public transportation is an ideal form of transport.
for me it's less about the physical action of using a train for transportation and more the environments that come bundled with it. Like being immersed in a bustling station with criminal activity, heaps of npcs etc.
@@SirMZK Remember the trains in GTA? You know, the one you got into once and then never ever used again?