Translate to english please: En la película de 1982 el soundtrack fué tocado por una orquesta sinfónica (Vangelis escribió las partituras) Para 1992 se re-edito la película, ahí Vangelis ya tocó la música.
@@joseluissanmartinroman8039Not true. The original release of the film did include the Vangelis score everyone knows. It was for the 1982 soundtrack album release on vinyl LP that somebody decided to do an orchestral recreation of the score, because it seems there were some rights issues with Polydor Records, and the original music could not be used on LP.
@@vinylarchaeologist hi! Please translate in English. La música si fué escrita por Vangelis para la película Blade Runner de 1982,el no la pudo grabar ya que también estaba grabando el score musical para la película Carros de Fuego,por eso se permitió que la grabará una orquesta sinfónica y esa música salió en la película de 1982,para la re edición de la película en 1992Vangelis graba toda la música y es la que se escucha en esa re edición; cabe mencionar que tengo en formato VHS la película de 1982 y el score musical es tocado por orquesta sinfónica,te mando un abrazo grande y fuerte desde Mexico.
@@joseluissanmartinroman8039 Thank you, but again, I think you are wrong. You can find on RUclips clips of the original 1982 film version, and it‘s clearly Vangelis‘ score, not the orchestral recreation. There have also been bootlegs of his score _before_ 1992, so he definitely didn‘t record it in 1992. You are confusing the soundtrack album with the actual film score. Greetings!
I saw Blade Runner in the primary in 1982 and to this day it is one of the best films ever for me. I always calculated how old I would be in 2017. Today in 2023 and 41 years later, I tell myself I was 20 years old when I saw Blade Runner and think how time has passed and I saw C-beams, glittering in the dark, near the Tannhäuser Gate. All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain. But not Blade Runner...
7:00 - All I can say is thank goodness the producers were lazy enough not to give the final order to junk the original negative in 1988. It is due to the incompetence and shortsightedness of people like them that we still had all this gold to gleam off, when the DVDs and Blu-rays were in development. Bravo!
I kind of thought that it was more like somebody who saw the junking order and said to himself"nah! No can do as long as I can get away with it. You never know." It's like super old banking slips that you keep in archive rather than ditch.
This was perhaps the best thing I've seen on the making of "Bladerunner" to date. Really excellent. I actually worked on the project as a utility stuntman, and it was one of the most arduous films to work on for many reasons. First, the HOURS. I came to work and 6am every morning and left every night at 6pm. Second, the CONDITIONS. Everyone was wet and miserable for the entire two-week shoot, with Ridley having erected three gigantic circular sprinkler heads that continuously rained down millions of gallons of cold water on the entire set. I even heard that some poor older extra actually died from pneumonia during the ordeal. We shot it in the middle of winter, in the old "New York Street" location on the Columbia lot, miraculously transformed into a futuristic 23rd century Los Angeles. Ridley was a past master at this, as he began his career as a set decorator. The guy was a difficult and demanding director, and I've never seen anyone so attached to detail as this man. But it is this same attention to detail that makes his films all masterpieces of the filmmakers art. I think that working on this movie was made so much easier by the incredible world he had created for his actors. I know that many of the cast and crew were suffering from sleep deprivation, but I also believe that this actually had a positive effect on the actors' final performances. This was after all a very dark vision, and I recall being zoned-out much of the time. I was routinely used to drive the futuristic vehicles, which were mainly just fiberglass shells simply attached to a Volkwagen chassis. The beautiful police vehicle driven by Edward James Olmos was totally non operational, just a full-sized prop lifted into the sky by a large crane, most of the apparatus concealed by smoke. That's another thing I remember, lots of smoke. I also vividly recall the climatic scene where Joanna's stunt double, looking absolutely NOTHING like her, performed the gag of crashing through the sugar glass store window, then everybody enthusiastically applauding her effort, for if she goofed in any way the time required to reset everything would have been extremely difficult, another reason for everyone's heartfelt appreciation. I always thought that her stunt woman was such an obvious double that it did distract from the scene for me, so watching these incredible specialists re-create it with with Joanna Cassidy a full 25-year later was a complete miracle, and I can't wait to see the final cut. When the film was first released, I was extremely disappointed in it's relatively low box office and tepid reviews, but thrilled to see how it ultimately became a cult classic in the many years since it's release.
Yup, I thought the same... the rooftop had a glowing blue tone which reflects off on the wetness of the roof when Roy died, which fits very well with the cyan-blue sky's color and the deep rumble of the music goes really well with the smoky industrial chimneys ... the sky may be too bright but the vibe really suits the rooftop's mood when Gaff arrives in the flying spinner .. The Final Cut's replacement scene just look very "composite photoshop montage", and its color tone is rather different in feel to the wet rooftop ... Definitely prefer the chimney one ...
Yeah I always saw the dove flying in the sky as a representation of Roy going into some type of afterlife. That he doesn’t just power off that he does have his own heaven.
Me too. Like it's a new day for everyone, especially me, who shed tears for the villain (a very strange and new sensation) when I first saw the movie in 1983.
This movie was put together real well! It's so unique and the soundtrack is supurb. This movie cannot be improved because it is already a masterpiece and my favorite science fiction movie of all time! Every time I watch this movie I like it more than the previous time I watched it. It's a complex movie with so much to offer and discover. I did not care for this movie the first time I saw it and let me tell you that reversed later on. I LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!! I consider this movie to be one of the greatest science fiction movies of all time!!!!
The hole „restoration” is about darkening the highlights, deepening the shadows and reducing contrast - a typical wedding photography workflow - I prefer the original tonality, it is more vibrant and dynamic.
Seeing Ridley Scott in the clips, I feel scared that I might let him down, and I'm just watching from home many years later. Can't imagine actually working for him.
This is an incredible doc, but even though now we can chose which B.R. do we feel watching, personally I like with the voice over because it was given so much inside of the characters mind and soul that would be unfair to disregard their inner feelings and soul searching throughout the film ! Regardless of the arrival but the journey is so fantastic ! Thank you
The voice over was garbage. And Ford gave a terrible reading thinking the studio would be forced not to use it, but they still did. It was the best thing that came out of the early DVD.
I have a soft spot for the narration due to nostalgia, but I think it’s pretty well documented that it wasn’t part of the original script nor written by the original screenwriters. Thus, you can’t really make a claim that it reveals any inner dialogue of Deckard as originally intended by the author.
There is no other film that does what Blade Runner does to me. It's like nicotine. You see someone smoking in a film, while warm on your sofa, and suddenly you just need to smoke even though it's freaking cold or wet outside. With blade runner,.if I cannot re-watch the film, then the perfect dose is one or two shots of "Tears in the rain".
Well the sky/ dove shot, that DID cross the line, if you ask me. There was that rare, brief clearing of sky at that moment that nobody else from the city noticed, that's how I remembered it.
Lol, I love the "Halloween edition" (Headless horse woman?) Love this film and all the care and effort folks put in to it. At the top of my favorites. Thank you!
The Final Cut corrected some errors in the Dir Cut but its dove replacement scene looks very photoshopped and some of the color corrections are overdone and lost the lustre and vividness of the Director's Cut ... I would argue that both Director's Cut and Final Cut are equally great in their own ways ...
There was also the lost San Diego Sneak Preview Version, which was the US theatrical cut but with three additional scenes not on any version before or after it. And there are two different TV cuts: the US broadcast cut and the HBO Asia cut. The only differences are that the latter is 16:9 HD with 5.1 surround sound, and no not-Deckard narration reading out the opening crawl.
And the moral of this story? Let Directors direct and not worry about having to rush scenes and post-production because they may have gone over budget.
You need pressure to work off, so I'd disagree with you. The very fact Scott had to fight to make the film he wanted is the thing that makes the film special. The sequel was made with zero pressure and it is not a patch on the original, no matter how many people tell themselves it is. I do understand what you mean of course, I just think too easy a ride and you don't bring out the best in people.
Poe Ghost just fucking leave it. It’s part of the charm. It seemed to fit magically with a delay in that scene somehow. Now they have that cornfed tyke who is supposed to look anything like his father?
The Maniacal Force-Wielder what some people say is worth more than what others say. Or in other words not everyones opinion is of equal worth. Shocking, I know! I have no chance of proving my worth here for want of effort vs benefit. All I can care to do is introduce the rare thought that “Final Cut actually sucks” as a mind probe or seed in people’s minds, as a small yelp in this giant group hug.
The Maniacal Force-Wielder have I said or implied that? Anyway, it’s hardly unorthodox or controversial to say that you shouldn’t fuck with perfection. Blade Runner is clearly one of those pieces of art where the whole is far more than the sum of its parts. Every little part is a testament to and of its time and the atmosphere in which it was made. It’s a crime to change that. All of the other versions are built on material or parts that was shown in the ür-premier or outtakes. The dove release shot is a perfect example of fucking with something they did not understand. Not even Ridley fully remembered or got it. He is an artist and is as such a bad person to ask. It reeks of 90’s to early 2000’s. The original shot, was perfect in its simplicity and the ray of light it cast into the atmospheric rainy night of Blade Runner.
The voice overs were not intended by Scott, they were forced on him by the studio execs. Both Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford hated them and Ridley got rid of them as soon as he could in the later versions.
Ridley HATED the idea though, which is why he ultimately released his Director's Cut, without the V.O. He thought that it was totally unnecessary and actually made the viewer look stupid. Even Harrison Ford hated the idea, and you can actually hear it in his laconic, flat voice. But it worked out well in the end.
All any of this goes to prove is that next time around maybe the director, or someone, should decide what the film is about and how it should be presented BEFORE the final shoot.
The tremendous value of Vangelis magic voices , music, sounds , is particularly evident when you avidly go to see the sequel 2049 and get bored after half an hour ☹️
its always funny to hear Ridley's take on it, like he doesn't see the movie the way people love it because it was his project and seems to minimize its status as a highly regarded film.
200 plus comments here and only one about our dutch soldier of orange, Rutger Hauer who should have won an Oscar for this role ! and the Oscar went to fucking John Gielgud for fucking Arthur , lol
I saw this movie when I was 13, I knew the movie with the voice over. It was a part of it. I never had a problem with it. It was a part neo noir to begin with. I just don't understand people's hate for it.
Bootleg of a bootleg of an outtake with Roy saying, "All those moments will be lost in time . . . like farts in wind." I know a guy who knows a guy who says he has it.
I know a version with Roy saying “All of these dreams will die in the rain like a fucking idiot!” after being disappointed that Sora from Kingdom Hearts was the final Smash Ultimate DLC character instead of someone like Master Chief, Crash Bandicoot, Gex, or Knack.
I kindly doubt the alternative version was sent to the LA film festival in 1990 'by mistake'. My hunch is the cut without the voice over was sent out of mischief by a fan of the film. Heck, it may well have been Scott himself doing it without informing anyone!
The brief replacement sequence at 24:57 is questionable; the brightness is too bright for what's just happened (a milky white which doesn't match with the rest of the sequence) and the addition of the building on the left gives the impression it's the location where Deckard and Batty are; making us think we're below their building looking up. How would the dove suddenly be below the building? That's the unfortunate impression it gives as both buildings are far too similar in design. It also looks like a computer sequence so we're taken out of the 'reality' of the film yet again! The 2nd version of this brief sequence, designed years ago, is, in my opinion, the better version! Reply
A lot of minutia here, but the key component to have BR make sense from a continuity standpoint is reintegration of the hospital scene. The key error that needed fixing was the poorly cast stunt double for Zora's execution. Fixing the lightening skies when the dove is released is an example of fixing something that didn't need fixing. The sky brightening counters the overall noir darkness of the movie. The pros did some nice tweaks, but fanedits like the one done by ADigitalMan which has selectable voice over are superior overall.
Im a big purist about the risk of tampering, but honestly Final Cut is brilliant. There’s a lot of rubbish said about the different cuts by fans. It feels like it’s become an excuse to make YT videos about the many cuts to get views and have an opinion for the sake of it. Usually it would be crossing a line correcting ‘mistakes’ from the original movie but they handled it so tastefully and seemlessly here, with all the original team, it may as well have always been there. I watched the Final Cut first and was shocked to learn the shot of the dove used to be just a lame back of a studio. Very rare that a movie recut ever gets this care and stays true to the vision. I wish the FC hadn’t had the teal colour treatment but the 4K release really improves this.
I saw the theatrical cut first, probably in the 90s on home video. The rest of the film had been so mysterious and metaphorical, it seemed to make sense that Roy's white dove would fly into a clear, blue sky after we had experienced so much darkness, even if the shot lacked the rich cityscape design. This was just before the leaked version arrived of course and the film really began to take on the cult classic status it has now. We didn't know what we were missing in other words.
@@davidlean1060 it probably wasnt the theatrical cut on 90s home video. There were already multiple VHS versions by the 90s. They already started adding things back in to get comsumers.
@@AdamBlack Now you mention it, I seem to remember the love scene between Rachel and Deckard was longer in the version I saw. My point was the film was so athmospheric and emmersive anyway, I could forgive things that didn't quiet gel, like the dove/blue sky shot or the face on Zorah's double looking nothing like Joanna Cassidy. They certainly didn't jolt me out of the movie. I can't say the same for the sequel however, but that's another kettle of fish.
I'm so glad they didn't. And it's nice how they released probably 95% of usable footage all throughout the 5 disc set. It's enough footage to make at least one movie from them.
I remember it being in the Theatrical Cut, but I saw it on first release in the UK in 1982, so can't say for sure whether that's the same cut as the one referred to here as the 'theatrical cut'. To me, the voice-over about Gaff is part of what makes to narration so vital in a world-building sense, as it fleshes out early on both Deckard's and Gaff's characters. From memory: 'The charmer's name was Gaff. I'd seen him around, brown-nosing for a promotion".
love the movie and what they do with the final cut EXCEPT filming the actress and putting her head avobe the stuntwomans, what the hell were they thinking?
Interesting. There are SO many films made in the last 20 years with a WEALTH of unseen material available on the cutting room floor. It would be great to see these movies reimagined like this cut of Blade Runner ~ into new versions. A way for the IP owners of these films ~ to generate new revenue streams ~ out of media resources and archived acquisitions 'that they already own' ~ that are already in the can ~ that have been seen by no one. The technology available in 2023 makes this 'reworking process' cheaper and easier than ever. The re-release of Justice League to its original vision for HBO Max is one such example.
@@יהונתןאטין Yeah sure. It only surpassed in in budget.Denis Villeneuve duplicated that in Dune. Massive budget, horrible outcome that didn`t match the original.It`s the same as a cheap modern pop band trying to remake a perfect pop song from the 70s
Ridley Scott just went to far with the story line in the final cut... anyone who is familiar with his other movies would know the unicorn clips are left overs from legend...the only thing i liked about this version was that the flying dove seen towards the end was refilmed with a proper CGI back ground , not like the original were it was obviously a after thought...the greatest thing about blade runner was the ambiguity in the story line...it was up to you to interpret it as you thought!!.😎
The music played a HUGE part in the success of the movie. Without it, you'd never feel so fully engulfed by the world it had created.
Translate to english please: En la película de 1982 el soundtrack fué tocado por una orquesta sinfónica (Vangelis escribió las partituras) Para 1992 se re-edito la película, ahí Vangelis ya tocó la música.
@@joseluissanmartinroman8039Not true. The original release of the film did include the Vangelis score everyone knows. It was for the 1982 soundtrack album release on vinyl LP that somebody decided to do an orchestral recreation of the score, because it seems there were some rights issues with Polydor Records, and the original music could not be used on LP.
@@vinylarchaeologist hi! Please translate in English. La música si fué escrita por Vangelis para la película Blade Runner de 1982,el no la pudo grabar ya que también estaba grabando el score musical para la película Carros de Fuego,por eso se permitió que la grabará una orquesta sinfónica y esa música salió en la película de 1982,para la re edición de la película en 1992Vangelis graba toda la música y es la que se escucha en esa re edición; cabe mencionar que tengo en formato VHS la película de 1982 y el score musical es tocado por orquesta sinfónica,te mando un abrazo grande y fuerte desde Mexico.
@@joseluissanmartinroman8039 Thank you, but again, I think you are wrong. You can find on RUclips clips of the original 1982 film version, and it‘s clearly Vangelis‘ score, not the orchestral recreation. There have also been bootlegs of his score _before_ 1992, so he definitely didn‘t record it in 1992. You are confusing the soundtrack album with the actual film score. Greetings!
@@vinylarchaeologist Gracias, checaré el dato, así se aprende más sobre música y películas,un gran abrazo grande y fuerte nuevamente.
I saw Blade Runner in the primary in 1982 and to this day it is one of the best films ever for me. I always calculated how old I would be in 2017. Today in 2023 and 41 years later, I tell myself I was 20 years old when I saw Blade Runner and think how time has passed and I saw C-beams, glittering in the dark, near the Tannhäuser Gate. All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain. But not Blade Runner...
7:00 - All I can say is thank goodness the producers were lazy enough not to give the final order to junk the original negative in 1988. It is due to the incompetence and shortsightedness of people like them that we still had all this gold to gleam off, when the DVDs and Blu-rays were in development. Bravo!
I kind of thought that it was more like somebody who saw the junking order and said to himself"nah! No can do as long as I can get away with it. You never know." It's like super old banking slips that you keep in archive rather than ditch.
this fact stood out to me the most in the docu. I never forget after I watched. What a fortunate mistake for this valuable part of film history.
Makes you really appreciate all the hard work that went into the Final Cut.
Joanna Cassidy is SO awesome for coming back to do that!!!
Her performance stands out .....but really everyone on that film DELIVERS the goods
I think she was THRILLED to be invited back. It's not often that one gets to relive such an exciting moment in time.
This was perhaps the best thing I've seen on the making of "Bladerunner" to date. Really excellent.
I actually worked on the project as a utility stuntman, and it was one of the most arduous films to work on for many reasons. First, the HOURS. I came to work and 6am every morning and left every night at 6pm. Second, the CONDITIONS. Everyone was wet and miserable for the entire two-week shoot, with Ridley having erected three gigantic circular sprinkler heads that continuously rained down millions of gallons of cold water on the entire set. I even heard that some poor older extra actually died from pneumonia during the ordeal. We shot it in the middle of winter, in the old "New York Street" location on the Columbia lot, miraculously transformed into a futuristic 23rd century Los Angeles. Ridley was a past master at this, as he began his career as a set decorator. The guy was a difficult and demanding director, and I've never seen anyone so attached to detail as this man. But it is this same attention to detail that makes his films all masterpieces of the filmmakers art. I think that working on this movie was made so much easier by the incredible world he had created for his actors. I know that many of the cast and crew were suffering from sleep deprivation, but I also believe that this actually had a positive effect on the actors' final performances. This was after all a very dark vision, and I recall being zoned-out much of the time. I was routinely used to drive the futuristic vehicles, which were mainly just fiberglass shells simply attached to a Volkwagen chassis. The beautiful police vehicle driven by Edward James Olmos was totally non operational, just a full-sized prop lifted into the sky by a large crane, most of the apparatus concealed by smoke. That's another thing I remember, lots of smoke.
I also vividly recall the climatic scene where Joanna's stunt double, looking absolutely NOTHING like her, performed the gag of crashing through the sugar glass store window, then everybody enthusiastically applauding her effort, for if she goofed in any way the time required to reset everything would have been extremely difficult, another reason for everyone's heartfelt appreciation. I always thought that her stunt woman was such an obvious double that it did distract from the scene for me, so watching these incredible specialists re-create it with with Joanna Cassidy a full 25-year later was a complete miracle, and I can't wait to see the final cut. When the film was first released, I was extremely disappointed in it's relatively low box office and tepid reviews, but thrilled to see how it ultimately became a cult classic in the many years since it's release.
Greatest movie ever made!
... Ever .
Yes, indeed!
one of my 3 faves (along with Grease & The Exorcist)
pro trick : you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using them for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Corbin Nickolas yea, been watching on Flixzone for years myself =)
I kind of liked the dove flying into a blue sky. I thought it was appropriate that there'd be sort of a miraculous clearing at that moment.
Mark Basnight couldn't agree more
Yup, I thought the same... the rooftop had a glowing blue tone which reflects off on the wetness of the roof when Roy died, which fits very well with the cyan-blue sky's color and the deep rumble of the music goes really well with the smoky industrial chimneys ... the sky may be too bright but the vibe really suits the rooftop's mood when Gaff arrives in the flying spinner ..
The Final Cut's replacement scene just look very "composite photoshop montage", and its color tone is rather different in feel to the wet rooftop ...
Definitely prefer the chimney one ...
Yeah I always saw the dove flying in the sky as a representation of Roy going into some type of afterlife. That he doesn’t just power off that he does have his own heaven.
Me too. Like it's a new day for everyone, especially me, who shed tears for the villain (a very strange and new sensation) when I first saw the movie in 1983.
it looks out of place to me, there was never any blue sky in the whole movie. Also too much open space which is a criticism I had of 2049
For someone who had to live in his father's shadow, Benjamin Ford seems like such a cool, well-grounded guy.
The BEST Sci Fi movie EVER to ever come out!!
You can't say "Blade Runner" without thinking Vangelis. Then you must hunt down all 5+ hrs worth.
Wait, I only have about 3 hours on disc. What am I missing?
And a lot of the stuff that you find is low quality, especially if you're obtaining it through legal means. Such a shame.
The thought of all that extra footage about to be junked NO! OMG. Thank goodness it was saved at the last minute.
happy to say I was at the directors cut premier in LA back in 92. amazing to be there and see scott speak before the movie started.
Word has it, Ridley Scott is a replicant.
A Nexus 6 more "human than human"
I knew it! Only a replicant (a broken one) could have come up with something as dull and disjointed and illogical like Prometheus.
@@phillipallen3468 To be fair, my theory is that Damon Lindelof fried Ridley's brain, and the result of that was prometheus and covenant.
@@K.D.R_ Those films made me realize that Ridley Scott's universe is filled with idiots and assholes. Oh, and androids are full of milk.
Final Cut is the Best thank you Charlie..
Still stunning and my fav movie
I love this film so much, the best film I ever saw in my whole life...
This movie was put together real well! It's so unique and the soundtrack is supurb. This movie cannot be improved because it is already a masterpiece and my favorite science fiction movie of all time! Every time I watch this movie I like it more than the previous time I watched it. It's a complex movie with so much to offer and discover. I did not care for this movie the first time I saw it and let me tell you that reversed later on. I LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!! I consider this movie to be one of the greatest science fiction movies of all time!!!!
Alien + Blade Runner are among the best scifi movies, i don't like what Scott made afterwards though
The hole „restoration” is about darkening the highlights, deepening the shadows and reducing contrast - a typical wedding photography workflow - I prefer the original tonality, it is more vibrant and dynamic.
Oh I loved this, thanks for sharing. What a treat to see Joanna Cassidy again, such grace and beauty
Seeing Ridley Scott in the clips, I feel scared that I might let him down, and I'm just watching from home many years later. Can't imagine actually working for him.
Yes, Gov'nor!😀
This is an incredible doc, but even though now we can chose which B.R. do we feel watching, personally I like with the voice over because it was given so much inside of the characters mind and soul that would be unfair to disregard their inner feelings and soul searching throughout the film ! Regardless of the arrival but the journey is so fantastic ! Thank you
The voice over was garbage. And Ford gave a terrible reading thinking the studio would be forced not to use it, but they still did. It was the best thing that came out of the early DVD.
I have a soft spot for the narration due to nostalgia, but I think it’s pretty well documented that it wasn’t part of the original script nor written by the original screenwriters. Thus, you can’t really make a claim that it reveals any inner dialogue of Deckard as originally intended by the author.
I liked the narration, it brought the movie to life.
See George? This is how you make a special edition
Alex Silva not much difference. Equally destructive and meaningless.
@@Frisenette Unlike the Star Wars Special Edition, there were very few Changes in the Final Cut and they were more subtle.
I still own my VHS of the og trilogy, the DVDs suck, but it's the only way I can see them in hi def 😒
I would take "George" over those hacks Rian and J.J anyday. Got it?
@@ViciousAlienKlown Agreed
"You can't just go through film with your bare hands"
ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE FILM WITH BARE HANDS! 🤠
My favorite movie of all time!!!
Aside from Scott changing Batty's "I want more life" line, I thought the Final Cut was excellent.
It was: "F@cker to Father" right?
Or was it the other way around?, LOL!
There is no other film that does what Blade Runner does to me. It's like nicotine. You see someone smoking in a film, while warm on your sofa, and suddenly you just need to smoke even though it's freaking cold or wet outside.
With blade runner,.if I cannot re-watch the film, then the perfect dose is one or two shots of "Tears in the rain".
Thank you for this video
if they re-released the final cut in the theater, would you watch it? I was thinking a good time to release it would be November, 2019
Double feature of final cut and 2049
nooo .... no 2049, just the first movie would be perfect.
4731Caine. I want more Blade Runner Fucker.
4713Caine that would be great, but it doesn’t look like it’ll happen anytime soon unless in a indie theater. Such a missed opportunity
I did a double feature of both in my home theater. Never seen them. I really enjoyed the first one (final cut) and I LOVED 2049
Honestly, one thing I would have fixed was the slight wobble on the unicorn's horn. That moment always jars.
Thank-you for posting this video.
Well the sky/ dove shot, that DID cross the line, if you ask me.
There was that rare, brief clearing of sky at that moment that nobody else from the city noticed, that's how I remembered it.
I love this film so much
Like Guinness, This film is pure Magic.
The art of true film making, will die out with people like Ridley Scott
Ridley Scott is WAY overrated.
Lol, I love the "Halloween edition" (Headless horse woman?) Love this film and all the care and effort folks put in to it. At the top of my favorites. Thank you!
They did a GREAT job, FANTASTIC, the Final Cut is the best cut, thanks!
The Final Cut corrected some errors in the Dir Cut but its dove replacement scene looks very photoshopped and some of the color corrections are overdone and lost the lustre and vividness of the Director's Cut ...
I would argue that both Director's Cut and Final Cut are equally great in their own ways ...
My favourite film of all time.
Great doco, thanks for the upload.
There was also the lost San Diego Sneak Preview Version, which was the US theatrical cut but with three additional scenes not on any version before or after it.
And there are two different TV cuts: the US broadcast cut and the HBO Asia cut. The only differences are that the latter is 16:9 HD with 5.1 surround sound, and no not-Deckard narration reading out the opening crawl.
Still my favorite movie ever made.
And the moral of this story? Let Directors direct and not worry about having to rush scenes and post-production because they may have gone over budget.
You need pressure to work off, so I'd disagree with you. The very fact Scott had to fight to make the film he wanted is the thing that makes the film special. The sequel was made with zero pressure and it is not a patch on the original, no matter how many people tell themselves it is. I do understand what you mean of course, I just think too easy a ride and you don't bring out the best in people.
@@davidlean1060 hi David. Yes money I'd money and everyone has a deadline, it Is a business at the end of the day
Goddamn, that shot they did with Ford's son is some of the coolest shit. I didn't even know about that.
Poe Ghost just fucking leave it. It’s part of the charm. It seemed to fit magically with a delay in that scene somehow.
Now they have that cornfed tyke who is supposed to look anything like his father?
@@Frisenette Calm down, you don't like the Final Cut, that's fine. But people are allowed to like those Changes, you do realise that?
The Maniacal Force-Wielder what some people say is worth more than what others say. Or in other words not everyones opinion is of equal worth. Shocking, I know!
I have no chance of proving my worth here for want of effort vs benefit. All I can care to do is introduce the rare thought that “Final Cut actually sucks” as a mind probe or seed in people’s minds, as a small yelp in this giant group hug.
@@Frisenette Well I hate to tell you this, but having an Unpopular Opinion doesn't make you an interesting person.
The Maniacal Force-Wielder have I said or implied that?
Anyway, it’s hardly unorthodox or controversial to say that you shouldn’t fuck with perfection.
Blade Runner is clearly one of those pieces of art where the whole is far more than the sum of its parts.
Every little part is a testament to and of its time and the atmosphere in which it was made.
It’s a crime to change that.
All of the other versions are built on material or parts that was shown in the ür-premier or outtakes.
The dove release shot is a perfect example of fucking with something they did not understand.
Not even Ridley fully remembered or got it. He is an artist and is as such a bad person to ask.
It reeks of 90’s to early 2000’s.
The original shot, was perfect in its simplicity and the ray of light it cast into the atmospheric rainy night of Blade Runner.
I wish the Donner Cut of Superman II had received this sort of care, attention and effort.
Booshman, most of this feeds off of Ridley Scott. Richard Donner didn’t care as much as Scott does at restoring his vision.
Ya still too goofiness in donner cut for me
Act now, don't delay...get the Final, Final Cut.
I like the voice overs it brings to me what they are thinking and more personal into their lives and what Decker is thinking
Also treats the audience like they're slow.
The voice overs were not intended by Scott, they were forced on him by the studio execs. Both Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford hated them and Ridley got rid of them as soon as he could in the later versions.
Ridley HATED the idea though, which is why he ultimately released his Director's Cut, without the V.O. He thought that it was totally unnecessary and actually made the viewer look stupid. Even Harrison Ford hated the idea, and you can actually hear it in his laconic, flat voice. But it worked out well in the end.
Thanks for sharing this!
I saw this on first release and watched it last night (final cut) and i picked out details I've missed on other viewings
Did you notice the horn on the Unicorn wobbled as it ran around? Is the Unicorn a replicant?
All any of this goes to prove is that next time around maybe the director, or someone, should decide what the film is about and how it should be presented BEFORE the final shoot.
Thanks, this is possibly my all time ❤
Thank you (10x) for this video
A perfect perfect film.
Legend is underrated
The tremendous value of Vangelis magic voices , music, sounds , is particularly evident when you avidly go to see the sequel 2049 and get bored after half an hour ☹️
A great film. Final director's cut is great. One of my top 10. Godfather 1 and 2 and 12 monkeys and citizen kane and many others are all excellent.
Top movie of all time
The best film ever made...IMHO, of course.
its always funny to hear Ridley's take on it, like he doesn't see the movie the way people love it because it was his project and seems to minimize its status as a highly regarded film.
All the hard work was worth it.
If you are watching this, it's NOT the final cut. White Dragon Cut is coming out in NOV 2024. Check it out on youtube. You'll be glad you did
I luv the part where they used the mouth of Harrison's son to do that scene.
All those moments will be lost in time, ....like tears in rain. Time to die." Je wordt gemist Hauer!!
200 plus comments here and only one about our dutch soldier of orange, Rutger Hauer who should have won an Oscar for this role ! and the Oscar went to fucking John Gielgud for fucking Arthur , lol
I saw this movie when I was 13, I knew the movie with the voice over. It was a part of it. I never had a problem with it. It was a part neo noir to begin with. I just don't understand people's hate for it.
I wish someone would put out all the scenes with the full score!
Bootleg of a bootleg of an outtake with Roy saying, "All those moments will be lost in time . . . like farts in wind."
I know a guy who knows a guy who says he has it.
I know a version with Roy saying “All of these dreams will die in the rain like a fucking idiot!” after being disappointed that Sora from Kingdom Hearts was the final Smash Ultimate DLC character instead of someone like Master Chief, Crash Bandicoot, Gex, or Knack.
And now Vangelis is gone and we will never have the one true complete Soundtrack 😟
They have the full scored songs that were chopped up for the film
But to stream it 4k now on my Sony 75 4k and stand about 5 or 6 feet from those visuals. And that music. You just drink it in - like a chocolate malt.
I kindly doubt the alternative version was sent to the LA film festival in 1990 'by mistake'. My hunch is the cut without the voice over was sent out of mischief by a fan of the film. Heck, it may well have been Scott himself doing it without informing anyone!
amazing
Joanna Cassidy ❤️
Did they take out the dove leaving Roy's hands when "it's time to die"?
You didn't need to go through all this fuss. It's always been a masterpiece
The original is still my favorite.
Good job, but as a fan I never cared about the "mistakes". They were part of the original magic. The film was so good we didn't care.
Yeah because we didn't knew about it.
The brief replacement sequence at 24:57 is questionable; the brightness is too bright for what's just happened (a milky white which doesn't match with the rest of the sequence) and the addition of the building on the left gives the impression it's the location where Deckard and Batty are; making us think we're below their building looking up. How would the dove suddenly be below the building? That's the unfortunate impression it gives as both buildings are far too similar in design. It also looks like a computer sequence so we're taken out of the 'reality' of the film yet again! The 2nd version of this brief sequence, designed years ago, is, in my opinion, the better version!
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A lot of minutia here, but the key component to have BR make sense from a continuity standpoint is reintegration of the hospital scene. The key error that needed fixing was the poorly cast stunt double for Zora's execution. Fixing the lightening skies when the dove is released is an example of fixing something that didn't need fixing. The sky brightening counters the overall noir darkness of the movie. The pros did some nice tweaks, but fanedits like the one done by ADigitalMan which has selectable voice over are superior overall.
Im a big purist about the risk of tampering, but honestly Final Cut is brilliant. There’s a lot of rubbish said about the different cuts by fans. It feels like it’s become an excuse to make YT videos about the many cuts to get views and have an opinion for the sake of it.
Usually it would be crossing a line correcting ‘mistakes’ from the original movie but they handled it so tastefully and seemlessly here, with all the original team, it may as well have always been there. I watched the Final Cut first and was shocked to learn the shot of the dove used to be just a lame back of a studio. Very rare that a movie recut ever gets this care and stays true to the vision.
I wish the FC hadn’t had the teal colour treatment but the 4K release really improves this.
I saw the theatrical cut first, probably in the 90s on home video. The rest of the film had been so mysterious and metaphorical, it seemed to make sense that Roy's white dove would fly into a clear, blue sky after we had experienced so much darkness, even if the shot lacked the rich cityscape design. This was just before the leaked version arrived of course and the film really began to take on the cult classic status it has now. We didn't know what we were missing in other words.
@@davidlean1060 it probably wasnt the theatrical cut on 90s home video. There were already multiple VHS versions by the 90s. They already started adding things back in to get comsumers.
@@AdamBlack Now you mention it, I seem to remember the love scene between Rachel and Deckard was longer in the version I saw. My point was the film was so athmospheric and emmersive anyway, I could forgive things that didn't quiet gel, like the dove/blue sky shot or the face on Zorah's double looking nothing like Joanna Cassidy. They certainly didn't jolt me out of the movie. I can't say the same for the sequel however, but that's another kettle of fish.
Wow, imagine if they 'JUNKED' it.
I'm so glad they didn't. And it's nice how they released probably 95% of usable footage all throughout the 5 disc set. It's enough footage to make at least one movie from them.
Gosh I would love to see a full cut
How was it a failed at the critics box office and sold out in release later on
Excellent
Cool, movie.
Thia is what working in Hollywood is really like: endless boring meetings.
there's enough material to make a mini-series
what version has the phrase "brown nosing" at the start?
I remember it being in the Theatrical Cut, but I saw it on first release in the UK in 1982, so can't say for sure whether that's the same cut as the one referred to here as the 'theatrical cut'. To me, the voice-over about Gaff is part of what makes to narration so vital in a world-building sense, as it fleshes out early on both Deckard's and Gaff's characters. From memory: 'The charmer's name was Gaff. I'd seen him around, brown-nosing for a promotion".
YES November 2019
love the movie and what they do with the final cut EXCEPT filming the actress and putting her head avobe the stuntwomans, what the hell were they thinking?
Interesting. There are SO many films made in the last 20 years with a WEALTH of unseen material available on the cutting room floor. It would be great to see these movies reimagined like this cut of Blade Runner ~ into new versions. A way for the IP owners of these films ~ to generate new revenue streams ~ out of media resources and archived acquisitions 'that they already own' ~ that are already in the can ~ that have been seen by no one. The technology available in 2023 makes this 'reworking process' cheaper and easier than ever. The re-release of Justice League to its original vision for HBO Max is one such example.
Hope it's not my screen, but was a lot of this in darkness?
I always thought the blue sky/dove shot was metaphorical - not literal - so the blue sky never bothered me. I always thought it was intentional.
. .. ... *Like the game* ... there are different versions of the end play too ... .. .
But does the San Diego Cut really exist?
Was the 1999 Director's Cut DVD made from the Laserdisc version?
Yes.
Don't leave out the rough cut, 4 hour version or the White Dragon Cut.
I much prefer the overdubbed theatrical release orig to any other and think the Unicorn scene seems contrived.
the real work print is on a blue ray that has 5 dvds and every cut made and a art mini book
very hard to find
What about ''ALL NO CUT'' to amalgamate all bits in one big film( I mean long film).For example 4 -5 hours long.
BL 2049? Didn`t even come close to atmosphere, mood, ambiance, depth, presence.
Yeh they tried, but failed miserably imo
I like it better@@StellarAudyssey
It surpassed the first one in every single department
@@יהונתןאטין Yeah sure. It only surpassed in in budget.Denis Villeneuve duplicated that in Dune. Massive budget, horrible outcome that didn`t match the original.It`s the same as a cheap modern pop band trying to remake a perfect pop song from the 70s
@@CaminoCarpet not just budget it was better in every single way while perfectly honoring the original
Is there still one with the voice overs ?
yes, u can find it on pirate bay
Ridley Scott just went to far with the story line in the final cut... anyone who is familiar with his other movies would know the unicorn clips are left overs from legend...the only thing i liked about this version was that the flying dove seen towards the end was refilmed with a proper CGI back ground , not like the original were it was obviously a after thought...the greatest thing about blade runner was the ambiguity in the story line...it was up to you to interpret it as you thought!!.😎