Don't tell my wife how I did this! Wood-Mizer sawing "impossible" HUGE Pecan log
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Here I am again sawing a huge Pecan log. Other sawyers in the area said it was impossible. With a little ingenuity and effort we got the job done. Wood-Mizer wins again!
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You make it look sooooo easy, but like you said in a earlier video, with the HUGE maple, in a nut shell, trial and error makes your work smarter not harder. Thank You so much for sharing!
lol, absolutely amazing. ingenuity, thats how you get a job done. I've had my LT35H for a year, and have figured out, like you, how to push it beyond its limits. that was one nice log. good job my man.
Ran my HVAC business for 31 years doing jobs what others said was impossible, Beast of Log! Good Job!👍🏼🇱🇷
It looked large just by itself but when you stood beside it, it really showed exactly how large this tree was. It's good that it's going to good use by becoming some type of furniture etc instead of being used for firewood
I'm a WoodMizer operator also. Great job. Shows what can be done with a little effort.
It was fun watching you work in large part just because it reminded me of home. southwestern Ontario (Canada) looks a lot like that. I grew up at the very edge of a small town, so I spent my childhood walking and biking through rural areas that look a lot like that.
You content on the mill was cool too.
I have a great appreciation for those who are told it can't be done and they go and do it... and do it well. My dad was a machinist. His boss would tell him it can't be done. My dad would say, don't tell me it can't be done and he would go out and do it. I'm not a professional at anything but I'm like my dad and when someone tells me it can't be done I go and do it. Great video
WallysPlace66 Your dad’s boss was one smart manager!
Great videography! So interesting to see you improvising to make it work with your equipment.
I am so happy to see other people doing what you did in this video. One of the best things using a wood mizer is that it has only one mast. If there were two, this job would have been much harder.
For welder bob. Yes, you could have cut the log lengthwise in half and milled it, but that is quite a project too. You could use an alaskan chain saw system to cut large cants as well. Lucas Mill also has a slabbing system. It is just a pretty big project milling logs over the 24" throat width, and you have to whittle it down to get it down to at or just under 24".
I have done so many of these larger logs out here in California. Redwoods, walnuts, and huge pines. You can do it, but it mostly gets done the way this guy has done it in Indiana.
Canaan Addison, yes on what you are saying, especially to save the jacket board if valuable enough. Other wise I like how this guy did it, cut the jacket board close then try to back it out, if that fails then detach the blade and work it out. I have cut blades that have locked into the wood and bent a little, making them bad blades anyway. This happens a lot just after you hit a nail, right? :)
LOVE your can-do spirit - the kind that made America.
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Exactly the reason why I purchased my Lucas vs a woodmizer. Although the kerf is much bigger I have no problem milling logs 60" across. Maybe you should consider an Alaskan mill for getting larger logs like this down to a size that your woodmizer will comfortably mill. Not taking anything away from what youve done in this video btw. Good job. Looks like some nice lumber.
If I could, I would have every type of mill available! They all have positives and negatives, but for me the Wood-Mizer is the best for all out performance and waste. This mill will do 99% of what I encounter on the job and have had very few problems maintenance wise. If I ever get into doing huge slabs, this mill will not work, and other options will be necessary. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
There is a video from Paul at Canadian Woodworks called "Cutting a Sawmill in Half". It shows how he modified a Woodmizer mill to allow the saw head to extend out further to give a wider maximum cut.
I will say that the ingenuity shown here on how to manipulate the log to make it fit your mill capacity is quite good. I am sure the customer was happy.
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Great job all things considered. It was obvious that you wanted to get every board you could out of that log.
Nice work! For me the best bit is seeing the grapple-table jiggling the log into position.
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From a concerned nurse and wife whose seasoned farmer husband who lost the sight in one eye from a freak chainsaw accident...I can’t tell if you are wearing eye protection. Please, please do!! Just a little piece of dusty wood can fly into your eye, hit the wrong spot and you lose the site forever in that eye.
I don’t want that to happen to you...
Ps. I LOVE your videos by the way!! My Dad was a woodworker all my life and appreciated the beauty of the unique and flawed pieces the most. I learned from him.
My Dad used to always say The hard stuff we do easy the impossible just takes a little longer!
I feel your pain. I have done this both ways (cut in half first and also not cutting in half). One thing I would have done differently was that once you finally got the lumber cut to your final width, gang them up and cut 3 or 4 at a time. We usually do 3. It goes a lot faster than the one at a time method. Sharp blades are a must though. You don't want the blade to wander
have to say that the overlapping was some of the best video I have ever seen
Mike and Melissa you guys do an excellent job love you guys
Great job. Bet that made a beautiful floor. I started working in a sawmill when I was 17 love the smell of fresh lumber. Thanks for posting.
Ahahaaa......I did the same thing with a 20' x 40" red oak that blew out root ball and all in a yard. I backed the mill under the whole thing, then cut it off landing it on the mill (no way to handle a log that big). Then had to chop on the butt end with a chainsaw to get the first few cuts because it was bigger than the throat opening. Turning is was another adventure, as my LT40 is manual ! Got 1000 bdft of beautiful red oak lumber out of one log.
Great stuff. Fascinating to see how people approach challenges. They seem to be the mist rewarding.
I have several short logs like this that are too large for my mill. I had planned on splitting them in half with a few wedges, you method deserves some consideration as well.
Loved the Ghosting from 11 minutes on.
Hated it and stopped the video
I had a 35" (small end) by 12' poplar last March. I used the same method as you. No help that day, it took nearly all day to mill it into a small trailer load of 1"x^6' on my LT40. Thanks for the video.
Very nice indeed. Would be cool to see a short clip or still image of the floor fully installed. I’m sure it’s gorgeous.!
That should really be great flooring. Subscribed and looking forward to more videos. Thanks and happy new year.
You and your crew sure work fast. So fast that at one point I could see you were beside yourselves as you worked.
Great work ripping, also great video, I really enjoyed the double exposure portion.
I enjoy watching you take these big logs apart. I would like to see an analysis of the yields some times as well.
Just a walk thru explaining these pieces are scrap, these are for rough work work, these are for finish work, and some of the nice grain patterns. Maybe an idea of how many board feet are usable from the particular log.
Thanks
Good to know you guys are not too far from Madison.
That looked like fun, hard, but fun. Nothing like doing a hard job and being successful!
Just watched a couple of your videos , milling big logs is always a challenge ,especially when you have to cut them down with a saw to make them fit the mill .As a fellow sawyer and woodworker I know all too well the challenge , great job ! Wish I could see how the flooring turned out ,I'll bet it was beautiful ! Have an awesome day and keep making videos :-)
Well that was strangely compelling, especially when you had the ghosts helping towards the end :) ... thumbs up!! thanks
Wow that is a tough job, lots of fun had I would say but that is how you learn, by taking on the tough ones rather than all the easy jobs
I have a Norwood Saw Mill and I have done everything that you have done cutting cypress. I have had blade's stuck. I have had them break I have had the mill stuck. IT makes for an interesting day
Nice job, I travel from South Dakota to Bedford several times a year and general haul some wood home. Always enjoy the French Lick area. Thought the area in the background looked familiar.
Looks like Brown county area, I have some mushroom seekers that make it over this way from that area. Nice job on the mill, would be nice if you'd show that stack of lumber that came from the log.
Amazing to watch. Also knowing other sawmills couldn't take it on. Right on man. 👍🏻🇬🇧
I had a man with a Woodmizer mill make the lumber my shop is made of. I had cotton wood logs some of them over 4' in dia. and about 30' long . we make mostly 2x6" -12' wasted a lot of wood cutting them down to where we could get the saw over and through the log. Made a good shop but was a lot of work. Been there!
First off awesome job. I had a 40" pignut hickory log on my lt35 manual and after a lot of manipulation I had to give up the log actually rolled off the mill at one point when I tried to roll it. I explained to the customer and apologized that was not going to try that again. And Franklin brooks large sawmills are fine and dandy if you have a way to get the wood to the mill, portable sawing saves the customer time and money by being able to do it onsite to top it off most large mills wouldn't waste there time on one or two logs. Indiana sawmill thank you for the video
I love it when I can complete jobs others have turned down. Well done on your part. I have a big 60" bar alaska mill that I'd have used first to facilitate the milling. I made the purchase within a few weeks of the band mill simply because it was a lot faster and less muscle effort in the beginning. We have a lot of big oaks and pecans in the south. I find it sad though that people tend to go after and remove the biggest trees instead of cutting the smaller ones. Such a waste.
Good work . A lot of folks think this is easy and they don't understand the difficulty of milling this size log due to its short length and width . I find it very time consuming with this size of log , but it always yields beautiful wood . Like you I like the challenge . I love my work !
If you would like to make easy rotate, just add two chuck like lathe(turning process) on slides. these two chuck support on hydraulic to lift the wood up and down in order to prevent contact with frame during rotate .
Regards
Raheem
I’ve always loved wood ...all things wood. Furniture, instruments, sculpture.
Personally I know nothing about wood, milling, or lumber.
But my grandfather was a woodsman and opened the first mill in our home town.
Guess it’s in my blood.
I run a LT40 also and climbed on big logs with my chainsaw numerous times. About halfway done your arms hurt, you can hardly hold the darn chainsaw anymore and you tell yourself: This is the last one. Nothing bigger than 28" from now on. But once you are below the magic 28" the reward is huge. Congrats brother, good job. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Sawmill Pete! Good to know there are other hard working sawdust makers out there.
I had a black walnut log that was too heavy for the hydraulics also, and too big in diameter at one end. I trimmed the end down with chainsaw, then to get it up on the Woodmizer deck we stuck a cant hook in it with a strap and used the Hummer and the hydraulics together to roll it up there. Then used the Hummer and cant hook to help roll the log until the hydraulics could handle it. Got 1100 bd ft from that 12' log
love your videos. Here in Australia, we do grow Pecan and Maples trees, but we don't have trees like Maple and Pecan IN THIS SIZE. These are HUGE! at the end of your Maples milling, you poured water over the finished cuts to show us the grain, but you didn't do that on this video. Please give us a wet wash in your other videos
Unfortunately, it was my wife that first saw this video and brought my attention to it, lol... all the same, a dextrose effort you put in there
Not to bad for a Southern Indiana boy, that's from one Southern In boy to another : ) : )….. I've been transplanted to Alabama some odd 55 years ago. Married a girl from LA (Lower Alabama) and kind of stayed. Still have Kin in Evansville. You All take care catch you on the flip flop.
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Bravo! I wonder though if your loader could have lifted the log ok with an assist from the bobcat. Also, I've had luck turning the big guys using rigging slings in choker mode, with forks or a bucket. Seeing as I have no hydraulics, that has been the ticket. I enjoyed watching you gnaw this beast down!
There you have it good old southern Indiana engineering at its finest!!!!
Listen Dude, that Indiana engineering is bullshit. That operator/owner should have prep that log first before sawing.The amount of time he wasted prepping on the ways of that mizer cost him money in time. And old term that has been used forever is called ( money cut) but you know anything about that city boy.
ive a 54" red oak 29' long and 29" at the small end,,,,,been tangled up trying to figure what to do with it,,,,lotsa lessons here,,,,thanks for the help,,,,great film
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Lovely bit of timber! With the big logs on a Mizer, you can cheat a bit more capacity for the head by making the log hang a little more over the main bed tube. Either by dropping the support arms a little (no fun on a short, fat log), or chainsawing small vertical channels where the log will contact the support arms. We've had some silly large sections on a couple of Wood Mizers, I always feel like I'm quarrying :)
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Everyone says to rip it in half. I would have cut kerfs then chipped the chunks off. Rotated 180 and did the other side. Then the other two sides squaring it up to manageable size. If you do this on the ground and get all the waste off first, you may also be able to put a once too heavy log up on the saw. Depends on how easy and straight the grain runs to split off the chunks.
Great video, great sawing, thank you.
Dang,wanted to see what the cut pieces looked like.
You saved a lot of that Beautiful Maple wood.
I love the way Pecan looks after it's finished...
I have several this size I'm milling. They are 9' 6" long. I estimate 7500 lbs. each. I use a Peterson Swing mill. Just roll it between the tracks and don't even try to lift it.
I applaud your efforts and love the never say die mentality...how many bands did you go through? We have been milling with our Wood Mizer since 2008 in the Piedmont region of NC. One lesson we have learned in working within the limitations of our unit is that sometimes you have to say no. Invest in a 4ft bar and half nextime.
I hear you too.
I've already got a lucas but I want a bandsaw mill as well for that reason and to be able to cut much wider boards.
Love your fast forward.
WOW! You have the same talent/precision as that of a highly sought after diamond cutter.
Wow. Great work on those huge logs. This video has given me some ideas on my next welding project to use my powerarc on.
You work hard & are very good at what you do. Wish I were as skilled as you are my friend.
Very nicely done, would have loved to see the finished stack and a look at the grain...
I had a LT-40 and remember sawing oak logs so big we had to blow them apart with black powder to get them on the mill.
If you know some wood turners, some of those blocks you cut off would make excellent bowl blanks.
Great work! Do you recall what this lot was sold for? Did it go to specialty lumber rack for hobbyists, or was it sold to support production of a commercial wood product?
I’m not a expert with saw mills... but would it have been easier to cut one edge first,put that at bottom and the work down?Just a thought!
What you achieved was amazing,stay safe.
I have the ambition , wish I had your skill great job
Hope your customer has better luck than others I have seen use pecan for flooring. Lots and lots of shrinkage and movement.
I kind of agree with the people who say there is too much funny video tricks on this. But it is fine. I would not do the start and stop on the wood mizer. I just keep em running, and let the wood stack til I have time while cutting to off load and stack, but everyone does it a bit different.
That cut at 10:04 made me a bit queezy. That pattern would of made a great slab.
OK , You should have sawed the log in half .Then quarter sawn OR used a trip mill with 26 inch blade .Less waste .. thanks for share ..
I really enjoyed watch this video.
Nice job. Could the log have been cut longer or was it to heavy? Also how wide were the boards? Pecan is a very beautiful wood. Thanks for the video's.
The original logs were cut exactly in half. Any other way and it would have been extremely difficult to maneuver on the mill. The final flooring boards were cut 6" wide. It is beautiful wood and very similar to hickory.
Only a little hard time. Great little mill
That could have been Coffee Table or Rocking Chair made in one piece. Shape with a chainsaw, finish with a sander then stain and seal.
That edit near the end of the video was trippy I thought I was seeing things at first.
I always cut from the big end first. Getting hung up just as you exit the cut is a bugger.
Timberdoodles very much this.
Timberdoodles good strategy!
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I always cut from the small end. Always....
Yes to Timberdoodles.
Thanks for sharing... Motivating...
the editing is what makes this vid worth watching, well done. is the tree holding more hydrogen? I didn't know pecan was that dense, field artillary may have it's limitations , but you snuffed the doubters.
when I want to mill large logs like this I split them in half with wedges till I can get a siscor Jack or two in the split. this helps get the most yield from your wood
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Lost 7 pecan trees 75-80 years old tried for months to find someone with a sawmill to cut them. Lot of promises all no shows finally county hauled them to landfill , we had storm assisted funds to dump them but not to mill them, yeah I cried when they were hauled off..
Why don't you stick shims in the cut so that it doesn't bind on the blade?
Great work.
As I watch this video, I can not stop thinking about how much waste is happening here. Every piece of wood that he is cutting off with the chain saw is 100% usable!
Don't do double exposures, please!
Kudos for your persistence and ingenuity.
Have a couple of drinks and the double exposure starts to feel natural.
loved the multiple exposures.
I usually just stand up the section of log and cut it on the ground to the dimensions between the blade guides. in my case 30 inches.
Enjoyed the video. Would have been nice to see the stack of boards created.
Gregory Wolf check out the instagram soindianasawmill. There are photos on there.
Southern Indiana Sawmill LLC I have never been on instagram and probably never will. I shouldn't need 2 or 3 different apps to get a whole story. But thanks anyway.
I love working with pecan!
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Impressive job!
I'm going deep into the sawmill rabbit youtube hole.
Tricky job for a band saw.A Lucas mill would have been handy for a job like that.
Stuart Chignell I'm hearing you, but the thing that I personally love about band saws over Lucas mills is the blade thickness. Skinny blade = less waste.
Nice works👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻
Hmmm Wood-Mizer. I had a friend who once invented a saw and I believe the company was called Wood-Mizer. Ironically I lived in Southern Indiana at that time. This was a neat operation...John Dossey Cincinnati Ohio
That would have made some nice slabs leaving it full length and using a chainsaw mill. Thanks for sharing.
I bet you got some real nice floor boards out of this log. What do you do with the cut off pieces That you don't turn into lumber ?
Just in passing, you probably already know, but if you sharpen the chain at a 10 degree angle, it rips much better than the 35 to 37 degree angle.