Super. It never crossed my mind as a kid to buy a C-Liner, but I have always wished for an HO version of the N scale Atlas classic B-C trucked FM CPA24-5. The Fairbanks-Morse Consolidation line consisted of CPA16-4, CPA16-5, CPA20-5, CPA24-5, CFA16-4, and CFA20-4 models, all cab units, in both A (Cab) and B (Cabless) unit designs. P=passenger, F = freight, # = HP, "dash" = number of axles. They also used three cooling fans initially on the lower horsepower models, four on the higher power machines, and all had four traction motors with some having a fifth "idler" axle to support the weight. So if the AHM models have four cooling fans and four axles, it is probably an early FM CFA2O-4. Don't quote me though, as AHM could have assumed that all C- Liners had the same number of cooling fans, and these could even be passenger, not freight units. Hello late again from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
Through the years people have given me their old trains and usually it’s inexpensive stuff that doesn’t run well. One time I was given a AHM C-Liner in the Atlantic & East Carolina paint scheme. I didn’t have high hopes for it, but it runs great! I put kadee couplers on it. All my AHM engines from the past 50 years still run!
Those Wabash C-Liners are really nice. And they're both Lionel Rivarossi! I was able to spot the little Lionel logo on the side... also the design of the front apron was unique for the 1957 Lionel HO line that Rivarossi made. Rivarossi only supplied Lionel with trains in 1957 (though some inventory remained to be sold for 1958) so they're reasonably rare. It's too bad that one unit wasn't working out for you but I'm glad it can still work as a dummy and allow them to work as a team.
Fascinating. I too have a Rivarossi C-liner that I got from a friend and it sounds pretty noisy when it runs. However, it runs little faster than the one in the video and I have not checked how much current it draws as I don't have a meter on any of my power packs.
Hello Harrison, If you look closely at the Wabash there may be an encircled L, In 1957 Lionel started HO and Rivearossi suppled Lionel with HO including C liners in about 6 road names with small Lionel L Nice to these engines still running Thanks
I used to have a Santa fe AHM c liner it was a good runner motor burned out or something happened i cant remember. It was years ago. I think a pin went missing. Awesome to see them running . woah you got some studio Lighting going on . Nice!
Nice run of the C-Liner collection, Harrison. I'd have to say the top three paint schemes in the lot: Chesapeake & Ohio, Southern, then Union Pacific in that order, but that's just my opinion. Thanks for sharing. 🎅🎄⛄
I had one of those FM units and cut off that wonky pilot and bought a F unit pilot part and fit it to the c liner. Looked a lot better, sorry no pictures as I no longer have it.
I think I figured out why your C-liners came with a Riverossi motor !?! If memory serves me correctly,; That “brass bar” that I saw “between the two trucks” when you “turned it upside down”, it’s a sure sign that it’s a Märklín HO/OO locomotive ! You see just like Lionel has three rails, Märklín does the same thing for Their HO/OO !!! At Least that’s the only explanation I can come up with because, I’ve seen their locomotives and held them in my hands and felt the third rail which tends to be just a piece of T-brass sticking out barely noticeable but you pass your finger down the center of the rail, I guarantee you’ll feel it !!! So what probably happened is that they probably couldn’t get the correct motor replacement where they were at and the closest they could get was a Rivirossi motor so they had to convert it and convert over to two-rail too !!! 🌊🐺
Looking this up (isn't the internet marvelous?), I see that the two main manufacturers of Fairbanks-Morse "C-Liner" locos were AHM, Rivarossi, Tyco and Life-Like's Proto 1000. So - which do you have? And sadly, the "C-Liners" were not all that popular with the railroads. Not to many of them ordered and/or used them. If you want to check this out, see here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_Consolidated_line Oh...and that odd N scale unit you have with the front two axle truck and the three axle rear truck? Yep...Fairbanks-Morse built their passenger "C-liners" with that extra non-powered axle to carry the weight of the steam generator units needed for the passenger trains. Like I said - the internet is a marvelous thing! Oh...and fantastic video, Harrison!!! Sneaky what you did with that A-A Rivarossi set, but hey...ya gotta do what ya gotta do!!! Have a great night!!!
This might be a long shot, but I have an AHM Plymouth switcher with this style of motor. Would anyone know where to get brushes for them outside of getting another used motor. I understand that all the manufacturers who would have used them are all out of business, but I thought it was worth asking around
You’ve inspired me to run all my sea lions. I only have one right now, but I’m hoping I get a few more for Christmas. I might need a bigger bathtub though. You have a pool yes?
Hi SMT great vid and i have a stupid idea i am planning to make a model railway outside for a week so i just wanted to know if you know what the best Track or the best track brand would be for outside ((:
I don't think it matters too much but nickel silver does the best job at not oxidizing too quickly. Be careful doing that, it's not something I recommend.
Super. It never crossed my mind as a kid to buy a C-Liner, but I have always wished for an HO version of the N scale Atlas classic B-C trucked FM CPA24-5. The Fairbanks-Morse Consolidation line consisted of CPA16-4, CPA16-5, CPA20-5, CPA24-5, CFA16-4, and CFA20-4 models, all cab units, in both A (Cab) and B (Cabless) unit designs. P=passenger, F = freight, # = HP, "dash" = number of axles. They also used three cooling fans initially on the lower horsepower models, four on the higher power machines, and all had four traction motors with some having a fifth "idler" axle to support the weight. So if the AHM models have four cooling fans and four axles, it is probably an early FM CFA2O-4. Don't quote me though, as AHM could have assumed that all C- Liners had the same number of cooling fans, and these could even be passenger, not freight units. Hello late again from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
Nice video! They are some great locomotives!
Just got a couple Santa Fe’s from a lot surprisingly they work after a little work. They are actually good runners
Wow very cool harrison
Through the years people have given me their old trains and usually it’s inexpensive stuff that doesn’t run well. One time I was given a AHM C-Liner in the Atlantic & East Carolina paint scheme. I didn’t have high hopes for it, but it runs great! I put kadee couplers on it. All my AHM engines from the past 50 years still run!
AHM didn't make the most fancy stuff out there but they are simple and reliable locomotives.
Those Wabash C-Liners are really nice. And they're both Lionel Rivarossi! I was able to spot the little Lionel logo on the side... also the design of the front apron was unique for the 1957 Lionel HO line that Rivarossi made. Rivarossi only supplied Lionel with trains in 1957 (though some inventory remained to be sold for 1958) so they're reasonably rare. It's too bad that one unit wasn't working out for you but I'm glad it can still work as a dummy and allow them to work as a team.
Beautiful Locomotives Greeting from Henk the Netherlands
i am sure that with your skills you could get them running perfectly harrison,best wishes.jpj
Peco Electriclube will works wonders on the Santa Fe .
Got 2 dummy versions from EBay. Look great.
I also have a sharknose locomotive. But it’s actually a Rock Island loco!
Fascinating. I too have a Rivarossi C-liner that I got from a friend and it sounds pretty noisy when it runs. However, it runs little faster than the one in the video and I have not checked how much current it draws as I don't have a meter on any of my power packs.
Nice C-Liner collection! SMT I think you should show your SD-40 collection sometime soon.
Oh boy
Hello Harrison, If you look closely at the Wabash there may be an encircled L, In 1957 Lionel started HO and Rivearossi suppled Lionel with HO including C liners in about 6 road names with small Lionel L Nice to these engines still running Thanks
great video 🚄🚄👍
Wow, those are some nice looking locos! Great video as usual Harrison!
Thank you!
I used to have a Santa fe AHM c liner it was a good runner motor burned out or something happened i cant remember. It was years ago. I think a pin went missing. Awesome to see them running . woah you got some studio Lighting going on . Nice!
The pin should be back now.
@@SMTMainline ? Im sorry man the pin i ment was the one that connects the motor to the chassis on the locomotive I had.
The. c-liners are my favorite diesel locomotives
They are nice!
@@SMTMainline thanks for the hart
Nice to see the wallbash set we have not seen it for a while
The c-liner it’s really interesting yet obscure
Baldwin made some very unique locos if you want to see one of the first very cool ones, search the 8000 series, they were the first diesel in Canada
@@canadianpacificstudios5835 C-Liners were made by Fairbanks Morse
@@user-sd7qo7qe4v ah my bad I was thinking of the sharknose
just got mine weighs a ton pulls great so far i like it
Nice run of the C-Liner collection, Harrison. I'd have to say the top three paint schemes in the lot: Chesapeake & Ohio, Southern, then Union Pacific in that order, but that's just my opinion.
Thanks for sharing. 🎅🎄⛄
It sure is a nice one, It's certainly one of my favorites.
Yessssirrr!
I had one of those FM units and cut off that wonky pilot and bought a F unit pilot part and fit it to the c liner. Looked a lot better, sorry no pictures as I no longer have it.
You should get a Proto 1000 C Liner. They are beasts on the track.
I'm a big fan of Proto, I'm sure their C-liners are sound runners.
You need to do like “UP switching operations on the layout” and stuff like that
I thought you had more C liners. Great to see the Wabash MU set again. Keep up the great work boss.
There's my favorite duo!! Glad they are running well!
I have 4 of them 2 are in green color and 2 will be painted with the black color that. Southern Railway ran.
Ahh the humble Baldwin shark
You can replace HO engine lights
5:32 I like the Santa Fe one
They look Amazing
Thank you!
Man imagine B-Units for those trains
The Proto 1000 ones had B units. I just sold a New York Central set. They’re excellent runners.
I think I figured out why your C-liners came with a Riverossi motor !?! If memory serves me correctly,; That “brass bar” that I saw “between the two trucks” when you “turned it upside down”, it’s a sure sign that it’s a Märklín HO/OO locomotive ! You see just like Lionel has three rails, Märklín does the same thing for Their HO/OO !!! At Least that’s the only explanation I can come up with because, I’ve seen their locomotives and held them in my hands and felt the third rail which tends to be just a piece of T-brass sticking out barely noticeable but you pass your finger down the center of the rail, I guarantee you’ll feel it !!! So what probably happened is that they probably couldn’t get the correct motor replacement where they were at and the closest they could get was a Rivirossi motor so they had to convert it and convert over to two-rail too !!! 🌊🐺
Nice video SMT! I like those C-Liners. They look really sharp.
Thank you!
Ahh, the good old FM C-Liners. I love FM's designs and I think they should've survived a lot longer.
It's too bad, you don't see a lot like them.
i just got a AHM NP FP45 and its really silent but it has some thing wrong with it but im gonna clean the wheels first
The double c-liners are hoot and toot from chuggington
nice
ah yes a classic smt video running all my _______
Yep!
noice video
The southern logo looks different than the go transit logo
Hi nice and good engin, I got some like that, but I will buy like the E, they are stronger, and very good stock, friendly Jacques Canada
The second to last one is kind of common
I have 3 different C-liners at home
My C-liner also starts and stops sporadically, unlike this one. Mine could have a conduction problem with the contacts, Idk.
I got a C-liner today
Nice!
I like this diesel unit
Gud vid
😀
The wabash one is cool I saw a new Haven one that I regretted not buying cool vid
I'm sure that had a nice paint scheme. Oh well, I'm sure another will come along.
Looking this up (isn't the internet marvelous?), I see that the two main manufacturers of Fairbanks-Morse "C-Liner" locos were AHM, Rivarossi, Tyco and Life-Like's Proto 1000. So - which do you have?
And sadly, the "C-Liners" were not all that popular with the railroads. Not to many of them ordered and/or used them. If you want to check this out, see here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_Consolidated_line
Oh...and that odd N scale unit you have with the front two axle truck and the three axle rear truck? Yep...Fairbanks-Morse built their passenger "C-liners" with that extra non-powered axle to carry the weight of the steam generator units needed for the passenger trains. Like I said - the internet is a marvelous thing!
Oh...and fantastic video, Harrison!!! Sneaky what you did with that A-A Rivarossi set, but hey...ya gotta do what ya gotta do!!! Have a great night!!!
I believe all of his are rivarossi/ AHM
@@Alerrecks Yeah, they are all AHM except for the Wabash AA set. I believe AHM used the same shells as Rivarossi did, just a different drive system.
@@SMTMainline the pure rivarossi C liners are hard to find, congrats
Q: are Bachmann War baby's rare?
Test every engine every time you want to operate the layout
Hey Harrison there’s a cool locomotive on Canadian national railroad you can look it up it’s Canadian national no 3008
I have a Nw Heaven one I can give in two years.
You need to get ahold of a Proto 1000 C-Liner...
That would be nice. Proto makes pretty good runners.
They are also a more accurate representation.
Nice video mate prehaps you could do a video on running all your sd40-2s i am sure people will like that.
I like that idea, I will certainly consider it.
hey smt, when will the winner of the Christmas contest be posted.
C-Liners go brrrrrr
Also, is it just me or is SMT’s “Well Folks In Todays Video” getting slower and slower?
I think it is. It’s not just you. It sounds like he’s talking slower and clearer.
yea, i think you’re right, it’s 4 seconds now
Well, he IS getting older, ya know.... :)
No, he’s only 18, I think. Maybe 19. I’m 12.
@@paulhaase4371 That was a joke, Aidan. I'm 63 - I'm allowed to make jokes about getting older!!! :) And Aidan is a nice name, BTW....
OK SMT NEXT VIDEO I WANT TO SEE A 15 ENGINE POWER MOVE!
What's that?
@@SMTMainline run 15 engines train power move
I live 10 minutes away from robs hobby world
This might be a long shot, but I have an AHM Plymouth switcher with this style of motor. Would anyone know where to get brushes for them outside of getting another used motor. I understand that all the manufacturers who would have used them are all out of business, but I thought it was worth asking around
Likely not too many out there side from getting another motor. Finding a junked engine to steal parts from wouldn't be too tricky though.
Me: where the hell do you get a fu**ing c liner I need one
Smt: I Told you bruh
You’ve inspired me to run all my sea lions. I only have one right now, but I’m hoping I get a few more for Christmas. I might need a bigger bathtub though. You have a pool yes?
Hi
I have a NH c liner that im sending to you!
super hermosas oye como consigo una porfa
Ok am I the only one who saw a suit of Armor in the background
he has some interesting decorations in his basement
And to the left of that are some giant skulls!
Halloween is taken very seriously here, lol.
Lol
Illinois Central never owned anything from Fairbanks Morse
Sounds like AHM having a bit of fun making fictional locomotives.
Yes it does
Do you have any Alaska locomotives?
Do you have any Erie built’s?
Hi SMT great vid and i have a stupid idea i am planning to make a model railway outside for a week so i just wanted to know if you know what the best Track or the best track brand would be for outside ((:
I don't think it matters too much but nickel silver does the best job at not oxidizing too quickly. Be careful doing that, it's not something I recommend.
@@SMTMainline Yea i am going to Be careful doing it i will get a lot of track cleaning stuff and if i can a waterproof cover if needed. Thanks SMT ((:
Hey Harrison u have discord?, i made a really cool server with Kanawha, Gopernoper, Dirty dan and myself.
Ok, but do you have any Superliners?
I don't think I do...
What locomotive sould i get go train or via train
VIA
@@MMRails
@@SMTMainline ok
Do you have a H10-44
Why do you need Southern Railway in Canada this equipment in southeast United States
Hi Mr Harrison. I was wondering, what size is that table? is it a 4x8 or bigger?
The first table is a 4x8 and the one it connects to is a 4 x 6 1/2
Can you run all your f units next?
I would but there is actually already a video on that.
1 hour ago
Smt. Get Over here Union Pacific Union Pacific. Stop
My train is not moving so I can't enter in the contest😓have fun.
It doesn't have to be a running display to enter.
Are you talking about the NMRBO contest?
Why mot the lionel legacy c liner
The two Rivarossi's were by Lionel.
First!
Hello