John. Dorothy, Bennett, and Arlene are just like old friends to me. I really love this show. It is so nice to see all these celebrities who have long left us, being a part of my enjoyment.
I love the show too, but John Daley is really starting to TICK ME OFF always flipping over those cards unnecessarily! (but yet when the lady was on "the other day" she had ZERO points and he wouldn't flip them over for her)!
Danny Kaye never disappoints! I thought I was gonna roll out of my bed laughing when he pretended to fall forward waiting for a particular answer. Best panel show on T. V. ❤️
I think this show is one of the best game type shows that have ever been on TV. I admire Danny Kaye a lot. I think he was an orphan and really touch so many people for the good!
Danny's convoluted, hilarious question (14:02) was a parody of John Daly's similar long-winded answers to a panelist's question, and John's strong laughter recognized how Danny was only returning how long-winded John sounded at times! Danny was one of my favorite tv/film comic actors when growing up in this marvelous era for America and television!
Found this comment on Internet dated February 10, 2006: "Every night my husband and I would record "What's My Line?" so we can watch it the next day. My husband is fascinated with the everyday people who are on the show and always wonders if they are still alive and, if so, what they are now doing. Last week one contestant was a man named Harvey Ellswood Jr. from Denver, Colorado. His line was making and selling balloons. After the show I pulled out our Denver phonebook to see if his company was still in business and found Ellswood Balloon & Party Favors Inc listed in the Yellow Pages under Balloons-Whsle & Mfrs along with an ad that had "Since 1946" which convinced me that it was the same company. I showed the ad to my husband and the next day when I came home from walking the dogs he told me he had called Ellswood Balloon & Party Favors Inc and learned some interesting things from the woman who answered the phone. Ellswood Balloon was Mr. Harvey Ellswood's company and Mr Ellswood was the man who had been on What's My Line? Unfortunately, Mr. Ellswood had died in 1998. Since Mr. Ellswood had been an only child and never married he had no family. He had passed the business on to his best friend of forty years. His best friend happened to be the husband of the woman who answered the phone. Mr. Ellswood's best friend and the woman's husband died in 2001. She now ran the company by herself. The woman also told my husband she had an audio tape of the show that Mr. Ellswood had been on, but had never seen the episode herself. My husband told her he would make a copy of the show and mail it to her the next day. She was very pleased and then asked him where he was calling from and my husband gave her the name of our little town. He was then flabbergasted when she said she knew of it because it was the town where her parents had gotten married. It turns out she grew up in eastern Colorado in a town about 50 miles away from us. We are going to stop in to see her the next time we are in Denver.
Thank you for posting this wonderful story and background information! Just like these really add to the enjoyment of the program. Brings it home that they really were people living actual lives
Watching Danny Kaye ask that wonderful and nonsensical question, mimicking John Daly's trait of verbose and complex non-responses was the highlight of this episode!
Extremely well put! "verbose, complex"? - like you're playing right into the format yourself! Clever, and I am going to write another comment in that vein! Thanx for the idea!
Danny Kaye really got the best of John Daly in the balloon segment. This was priceless. I have seen and enjoyed so many of What's My Line, I was hoping to see one instance of one of the panel members giving it back to John, I figured it would be Bennett who would do the honors.
When this show aired, my family was approaching its first anniversary of living one town north of the first challenger, Edward Durfee, who was from Orangeburg (NY). I never met or heard of Mr. Durfee, but I have seen ads for Musbro Kennels for many years. I've never had a dog so I had no need of the services of a dog groomer or a kennel. Musbro Kennels is still in business in Orangeburg, but their website does not give the name of the current owner or any key personnel. When John Daly thinks that Orangeburg is upstate, he probably confused it with Ogdensburg which is situated on the St. Lawrence River, due south of Ottawa.
@@paulmorin6569 it is true that both weren't well liked.there were Hollywood stars some who liked headaches and disliked louella and some that liked louella and disliked hedda.they had their allies.celeste Holm said that they both will be best remembered as pains in the butts.not many went to louellas funeral.it showed how low and forgotten louella had become.she was a cast-off in death.louella was a lot like the stars she wrote about.louella struggled sweated and worked her way to the top.she got to the top and remained there for quite awhile and quite successful enjoying her power and spotlight.then there was the painful decline in her career.then having to retire due to ill health and a changed hollywood.then living the last 8 years of her life reclusive in poor health and just a shell of who she used to be.just like the stars she wrote about.
"In this product, does the chemical content insofar as the littered of the instance of the product, can you, in turn, with a degree of honesty, feel that there has been - not concerning those people who generally don't use it- but would there be, insofar as knowing a group of people as seated here, could you?" - Danny Kaye, 1961
@@loissimmons6558 Under what circumstances would the answer be yes? You may be more imaginative than I, but I cannot think of how the answer could possibly be yes, therefore my answer is no.
They dress so well, ladies dresses and mens bow ties. A different world . Tonight on JEOPARDY 6/28/22 a contestant had on jogging suit/ sweat clothes.!? No respect for themselves or audience. WML was wonderful… so good to have them posted here!
Danny Kaye is brilliant. Not necessarily very good as a player, but huge laughs. His parody of Daly is for the ages. He was a busy guy -- so he did not show up much. Or maybe his always being on, like Groucho, put off some of the panelists.
@@gottohavesoul He used to cook regularly when in San Francisco with the staff in the kitchen at the Stanford Arms Hotel on California Street just down from the Mark Hopkins. I suppose because he wanted to be welcome there he was nice to them OR he was busy looking for pick-ups so wanted to be nice, just in case. Some people, whether they grew up rich or poor, never seem to manage to treat staff with warmth and respect, as though it's part of the job description that the cannot be treated as equals. They have a job to do to serve you, but there are decent ways to behave.
It reminds me of when Hedda Hopper was on and the guest panelist incorrectly guessed that it was Louella Parsons, much to the audience’s raucous laughter. Hedda smiled gamely but withheld any comment.
Here is a special note to the younger people watching this... the guest celebrity, Louella Parsons. Do not be fooled by her "innocent, little old lady" appearance here. She was a horrible woman. She was a gossip columnist just as vile as Walter Winchell and Hedda Hopper. If you worshiped them like they were gods, you were relatively safe. But, if you tried to live your life outside their control you were a sitting duck and your life and career would be ruined. HORRIBLE WOMAN.
Horrible woman or not, she fit in just right in Hollywood and is a vital part of the history of show biz. If the studios would have had their way, Louella and Hedda would have just been puff piece purveyors. I love Hollywood and the movies, and am fascinated by the lives lived there. These two women were as important to the story of motion pictures as L. B. Mayer.
@@MrJoeybabe25 those women and Winchell were monsters... they revealed secrets that ruined lives. Their own children could not stand the way they did business. They were monsters who helped Joe McCarthy to snoop into people’s most private lives and get them blacklisted. If a star treated them like they were royalty, the star got good press. But, if the star did not bow down to them they got bad press. If a star gave one of the three of them a scoop, the other two were out for blood. Read about what Joseph Cotten did to Hedda Hopper when she printed something nasty about his family... she deserved it. Disgusting that someone would defend those evil people today.
That was rare at 25:00 when Dorothy stood-up in respect to say goodbye to fellow gossip columnist Louella Parsons, that Dorothy (or Arlene) just realized who it was when John stopped the guessing after she won the entire $50.
@@paulmorin6569 yes that is true.louella had her friends and allies.she could be cruel and untruthful.she did at times trade in humanity for her own professional gain.
What's My Line? SaveThe TPC www.tv.com/shows/whats-my-line/preempted-week-10-of-25-97383/trivia/ A made-for-TV production of "The Power and the Glory" with Lawrence Olivier and Martin Gabel in the cast aired that night. Also, let me say this about Yves Montand: His English was not very good when he first appeared on this program on 10/22/61. But when he appeared again as a Mystery Guest on the 2/12/67 show, his English had improved dramatically. He also spoke English extremely well when he starred with the late and great James Garner in 'Grand Prix".
***** Montand also appeared on 10/24/65, which I know only because, by sheer coincidence, I *just* got finished watching that episode five minutes ago (I was editing together a version with the original commercials).
What's My Line? I think you got him confused with Yves St. Laurent. The episode was notable for having not one, not two, but three different mystery guests.
Damn! Arlene's ensemble tonight is next level. I'd heard Dorothy had been considered "best dressed", by frankly I never saw it that way. Maybe because her choices were not as bold as Arlene's so she had more mainstream appeal? Whatever....I'm Team Arlene all the way.
Louella Parsons wasn't even in the show for the thrill of being a mystery guest participant; at the end she states: "I am here because I have written a book"'. She was kinda mean looking.
Yes louella does not look happy.her later years as a Hollywood columnist were not easy for her.the movie business had changed.she did not have the power she used to have.she was getting older.her heyday was over.
The word 'consumed' is always tricky on this show: we are all consumers in our consumer society in the sense that we buy things and use them up. Most people who use 'consume' in everyday speech mean eat or drink, but John Daly goes for the wider meaning of 'use and deplete' - in that meaning you or I could consume firewood, coal, fuel, toothpaste, shampoo, newspapers and perhaps electricity. He's a rather pedantic and schoolmasterly fellow but funny too - perhaps he is mocking himself when he does the explanations which are more difficult than the point he is making.
Roly And Me. I think it's the panellists fault by not saying 'eaten' or 'swallowed' in the first place. Consumed should indeed mean anything depleted over time.
Louella Parsons looks a lot like Aunt Clara from Bewitched, was her physical appreance the bases for Aunt Clara? Marion Lorne of course will always be that slighty off character from that classic series.
Parsons was approximately eighty years old when this aired. She wasn't the beauty that her rival Hopper was--who was only four years her junior--Parsons was known to be drab in garment and stolidly plain, with her own appearance and character.
I read that book tell it to louella.i read a biography on louella about 13 years ago.in the biography it does state that louella thought the book tell it to louella terrible but she wrote every word of it.she wrote a book entitled how to write for the movies and she was not proud of that book either.
I wonder if John was perhaps a bit intimidated by Louella Parsons. He seemed afraid to change any of her definitive "yes" answers to definitive "No"s, even when they were outright falsehoods (such as being a "leading woman" in motion pictures) or to even conference with her about performing in supper clubs, about which he seemed dubious, and I certainly am. Interesting too that Dorothy not only stood up to greet Louella but kissed her as well. It was my understanding that the two of them were arch rivals when Dorothy was starting out as a columnist. Perhaps their relationship mellowed over time?
Michael Mantle It was very unusual for either Dorothy or Arlene to stand up to greet any contestants. Those that have been noted by myself and others in these comments sections before include members of the clergy (nuns, monsignors, priests), elderly contestants (I just saw a late 1963 episode with an 85-year-old flagpole painter, for whom they stood up), important national or world leaders (e.g., Eleanor Roosevelt) and performers of legendary status (e.g., Sophie Tucker). Your suggestion that Dorothy's feelings about Louella became more positive over time makes sense. To Dorothy she would be someone who is a legend in her own field, and perhaps had become a mentor to her, so I guess that is why she would want to accord her particular respect. Whether or not Louella had ever written anything negative about her personally, Arlene would have no reason to show the same kind of deference to someone who, despite her legendary status, was basically a gossip columnist.
Michael Mantle It sounds as if you've dome some research into this topic since the first time you commented on this thread. Did you actually find and read some of Louella's columns which mention Arlene? I'd be interested to know how and where you found the records of her comments about her.
Michael Mantle Wow, what a great source! I'll bet your relative must have lots of fond memories and good stories about time spent with Arlene and family. In light of this information, I now want to watch that segment again. :)
Jeff Vaughn I banned him from leaving further comments long ago, Jeff. He went completely off the deep end. Nuff said. Please don't engage him, since he can continue leaving comments on the thread via Google+ if he chooses to, and I won't even see them (I blocked him personally after he started attacking me).
I think she had several. In her autobiography, Mia Farrow alludes to the time she met Louella as a kid and Mia's mother, Maureen O'Sullivan, cautioned the kids not to laugh at Louella's appearance. Her recent facelift had pulled a corner of her mouth too tightly, giving it an odd appearance. (Mia Farrow seems to have a selective memory, so make of that what you will.)
LEZLIE'S LOUNGE It's his job to be pedantic and longwinded. Part of the game and a longrunning 'gag' which gives the panellists something to make fun of or respond to with a quip.
Jc Ripp Well, bear in mind that there were a lot of terms that were traditionally used in a very specific way on WML that isn't how they're used in ordinary life. The panelists, and the regular viewers, all knew these things. E.g., products vs services: even if a contestant's line dealt with a product, they were *all* still performing a service. Every single paid occupation in existence is a service or one wouldn't get paid for it. John often slowed the game down, but it was just as often his attempt to bend over backwards to be precisely fair as it was to mislead. "Consumed" can either mean eaten, or used up.
The idea that a balloon is consumed (rather than simply breaking) is far fetched. But something doesn't have to be eaten or imbibed to be consumed. A good example would be logs burned in a fireplace.
so, danny kay was trying out for second most obnoxious panelist in the show's history (numero uno, of course, was jerry lewis); victor borge and buddy hackett gave danny a run for his money, but i think it's danny by a nose.
Agree with Jerry Lewis at No.1. I sometimes watch his interviews for masochistic pleasure just to see how his miserable personality's doing. It's interesting that the comedians can't stop working when they come on this show which works comedically without requiring them to impose themselves too much on it (Steve Allen for instance 'rides' it well in combo with his sharp wit). You know, Orson didn't break out into reciting Shakespeare. Ustinov didn't launch into any long anecdotes. Mel Torme didn't pipe up with a song. I don't see why the comics can't also put their day job on hold for a few minutes and play the game!! It's pretty desperate when a comedian is desperate for laughs.
:( still no producer talk. He has no RIGHT to flip over those cards at 40 points!!!!! but yet the last episode, the contestant had NO points, and John wouldn't flip them over!! that's not FAIR!!!
Its amusing to me how we who are watching these shows 60 long years after the fact sometimes seem to take them waaaay more seriously than the original players. Personally, I find myself getting crazy over the injustices of Password and Match Game lol. I like to think these contestants probably had the time of their lives just being on television, no matter how much money they won.
Yes she looks very very uneasy.her later years in Hollywood were painful for her.she longer had her power because the motion picture business was changing.
a product of yesterday's America...where many folks succeeded via a rigged, exclusive, and insider power configuration. As times changed and the playing field became more meritorious and democratic, windbags like Parsons became less relevant and effective at her sleazy operations.
I was never a fan of Danny Kaye to start with and this episode clinches it. He was almost as bad as Wally Cox and Joey Bishop. Had no business being on this panel.
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John. Dorothy, Bennett, and Arlene are just like old friends to me. I really love this show. It is so nice to see all these celebrities who have long left us, being a part of my enjoyment.
I love the show too, but John Daley is really starting to TICK ME OFF always flipping over those cards unnecessarily! (but yet when the lady was on "the other day" she had ZERO points and he wouldn't flip them over for her)!
This vintage tv show is still a must watch game show ☺️😄
Once again, "WML?" is the best medicine. And Danny Kaye was the greatest!
Danny Kaye never disappoints! I thought I was gonna roll out of my bed laughing when he pretended to fall forward waiting for a particular answer.
Best panel show on T. V. ❤️
I nearly died when he finished that long John Daly-esque question with "Could You?"
Danny Kaye beating John Daly at his own game during the balloon maker's segment: priceless.
Todd Brandt
Complete double talk and utter nonsense, but well done indeed!
Danny Kaye HAD to do it once... he was a famous for some of his 'double talk' routines.
@@savethetpc6406 HA HA HA RIGHT ON
I miss Danny Kaye. No one can surprise me, amuse me and confuse me at the same time they way he did.
Danny Kaye was the original "wild and crazy guy"!
I think this show is one of the best game type shows that have ever been on TV. I admire Danny Kaye a lot. I think he was an orphan and really touch so many people for the good!
Danny's convoluted, hilarious question (14:02) was a parody of John Daly's similar long-winded answers to a panelist's question, and John's strong laughter recognized how Danny was only returning how long-winded John sounded at times! Danny was one of my favorite tv/film comic actors when growing up in this marvelous era for America and television!
The balloon segment with Danny Kaye mocking John Daily was funny 😄 😆
A TIme Travelers dream to go back in time. What's My Line is what you need right here.
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A Time Traveler would do better on I've Got A Secret
Danny Kaye gave the absolute best response to John Daly!! 😂😂😂
Danny Kaye - most talented - and greatly missed.
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Found this comment on Internet dated February 10, 2006: "Every night my husband and I would record "What's My Line?" so we can watch it the next day. My husband is fascinated with the everyday people who are on the show and always wonders if they are still alive and, if so, what they are now doing. Last week one contestant was a man named Harvey Ellswood Jr. from Denver, Colorado. His line was making and selling balloons.
After the show I pulled out our Denver phonebook to see if his company was still in business and found Ellswood Balloon & Party Favors Inc listed in the Yellow Pages under Balloons-Whsle & Mfrs along with an ad that had "Since 1946" which convinced me that it was the same company. I showed the ad to my husband and the next day when I came home from walking the dogs he told me he had called Ellswood Balloon & Party Favors Inc and learned some interesting things from the woman who answered the phone.
Ellswood Balloon was Mr. Harvey Ellswood's company and Mr Ellswood was the man who had been on What's My Line? Unfortunately, Mr. Ellswood had died in 1998. Since Mr. Ellswood had been an only child and never married he had no family. He had passed the business on to his best friend of forty years. His best friend happened to be the husband of the woman who answered the phone. Mr. Ellswood's best friend and the woman's husband died in 2001. She now ran the company by herself.
The woman also told my husband she had an audio tape of the show that Mr. Ellswood had been on, but had never seen the episode herself. My husband told her he would make a copy of the show and mail it to her the next day. She was very pleased and then asked him where he was calling from and my husband gave her the name of our little town. He was then flabbergasted when she said she knew of it because it was the town where her parents had gotten married. It turns out she grew up in eastern Colorado in a town about 50 miles away from us. We are going to stop in to see her the next time we are in Denver.
Craig Calman
What a great story -- thanks for sharing it! :)
What a great story!
Quite a coincidence. Your post is 4 years old. Has anything more happened that would be of interest?
Excellent legwork man. I really people like you who add so much to our enjoyment of the show and the comments. Bravo!
Thank you for posting this wonderful story and background information! Just like these really add to the enjoyment of the program. Brings it home that they really were people living actual lives
I really enjoy seeing what life was like in the time of my youth.
Watching Danny Kaye ask that wonderful and nonsensical question, mimicking John Daly's trait of verbose and complex non-responses was the highlight of this episode!
Extremely well put! "verbose, complex"? - like you're playing right into the format yourself! Clever, and I am going to write another comment in that vein! Thanx for the idea!
@@StaciArdmore Thank you! ;)
Absolutely a classic !!
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Well dressed, well mannered, polite, not foul language -- how refreshing!
@Charles Schwartz....... Lol.... What a load of nonsense. And by the way, Louella was a vile, evil woman.
But, not if she kept it clean on here.the rest doesn’t matter
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"Cuts the dog into different shapes, Miss Kilgallen? Please!" That part was so funny!
I just saw this episode, and that line (9:40) was unusual in how strange it sounded!
Danny Kaye really got the best of John Daly in the balloon segment. This was priceless. I have seen and enjoyed so many of What's My Line, I was hoping to see one instance of one of the panel members giving it back to John, I figured it would be Bennett who would do the honors.
This game show and to tell the truth are the best older game shows on TV. I watch everyone!
I wonder if Danny Kaye will be invited back after giving John a hard time.
I love Dorothy. She was so talented and beautiful.
When this show aired, my family was approaching its first anniversary of living one town north of the first challenger, Edward Durfee, who was from Orangeburg (NY). I never met or heard of Mr. Durfee, but I have seen ads for Musbro Kennels for many years. I've never had a dog so I had no need of the services of a dog groomer or a kennel.
Musbro Kennels is still in business in Orangeburg, but their website does not give the name of the current owner or any key personnel.
When John Daly thinks that Orangeburg is upstate, he probably confused it with Ogdensburg which is situated on the St. Lawrence River, due south of Ottawa.
Best Danny Kaye humour ever!
I totally enjoyed this segment😄
Arlene's spectacular sable-trimmed paisley Scassi ensemble was also featured in a Vogue spread on Cyd Charisse around this same time.
"Scaasi."
I think that the fur was mink, Todd. It looked it could have been a very rich shade of brown, as well.
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She was one of the most feared women in Hollywood.
Yes she was.
She ruined careers like her horrible alter ego hedda hopper I can't even imagine hell would have them.
@@paulmorin6569 it is true that both weren't well liked.there were Hollywood stars some who liked headaches and disliked louella and some that liked louella and disliked hedda.they had their allies.celeste Holm said that they both will be best remembered as pains in the butts.not many went to louellas funeral.it showed how low and forgotten louella had become.she was a cast-off in death.louella was a lot like the stars she wrote about.louella struggled sweated and worked her way to the top.she got to the top and remained there for quite awhile and quite successful enjoying her power and spotlight.then there was the painful decline in her career.then having to retire due to ill health and a changed hollywood.then living the last 8 years of her life reclusive in poor health and just a shell of who she used to be.just like the stars she wrote about.
Thank you for this.i am a louella parsons fan.fascinating to see her shortly before she retired.too bad she did not do more television.
"In this product, does the chemical content insofar as the littered of the instance of the product, can you, in turn, with a degree of honesty, feel that there has been - not concerning those people who generally don't use it- but would there be, insofar as knowing a group of people as seated here, could you?"
- Danny Kaye, 1961
The answer to that question is a qualified maybe.
@@loissimmons6558 Under what circumstances would the answer be yes? You may be more imaginative than I, but I cannot think of how the answer could possibly be yes, therefore my answer is no.
@@igkoigko9950 I was giving a nonsense answer to what I perceive was meant to be a bunch of double talk.
They dress so well, ladies dresses and mens bow ties. A different world .
Tonight on JEOPARDY 6/28/22 a contestant had on jogging suit/ sweat clothes.!?
No respect for themselves or audience.
WML was wonderful… so good to have them posted here!
😂😂😂😂 Loved the Danny Kaye mimicking of John! He could do the job lol.
The Louella Parsons segment was painful to watch. A relief to see her leave the set.
Yes by this time she was frail.she did not want to admit it.ill health forced her into retirement in 1964.
She apparently loved large penises.
Danny Kaye is brilliant. Not necessarily very good as a player, but huge laughs. His parody of Daly is for the ages. He was a busy guy -- so he did not show up much. Or maybe his always being on, like Groucho, put off some of the panelists.
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I love Danny Kaye, and he was very funny here, but he was definitely not even trying to play the game seriously most of the time.
His private persona was the opposite. I worked at the Sherry-Netherland Hotel where he lived. He was always grouchy with all the staff.
That's some good trivia. Must be a bit odd to have the personal experience as you did and then see him be Mr. Funny when performing.
Certainly not the only celeb with very different public/private faces...
@@gottohavesoul He used to cook regularly when in San Francisco with the staff in the kitchen at the Stanford Arms Hotel on California Street just down from the Mark Hopkins. I suppose because he wanted to be welcome there he was nice to them OR he was busy looking for pick-ups so wanted to be nice, just in case. Some people, whether they grew up rich or poor, never seem to manage to treat staff with warmth and respect, as though it's part of the job description that the cannot be treated as equals. They have a job to do to serve you, but there are decent ways to behave.
Notice how quickly (and skillfully) Mr. Daly intervened to prevent any further mention of Hedda Hopper!
It reminds me of when Hedda Hopper was on and the guest panelist incorrectly guessed that it was Louella Parsons, much to the audience’s raucous laughter. Hedda smiled gamely but withheld any comment.
@@_ItsOnlyMe I remember. A great TV moment.
"It isn't very good .. "
That's funny ... !
Here is a special note to the younger people watching this... the guest celebrity, Louella Parsons. Do not be fooled by her "innocent, little old lady" appearance here. She was a horrible woman. She was a gossip columnist just as vile as Walter Winchell and Hedda Hopper. If you worshiped them like they were gods, you were relatively safe. But, if you tried to live your life outside their control you were a sitting duck and your life and career would be ruined. HORRIBLE WOMAN.
nanna berry thanks for the info she does look like a old battleaxe if you stepped on her toes
Horrible woman or not, she fit in just right in Hollywood and is a vital part of the history of show biz.
If the studios would have had their way, Louella and Hedda would have just been puff piece purveyors.
I love Hollywood and the movies, and am fascinated by the lives lived there. These two women were as important to the story of motion pictures as L. B. Mayer.
Joe Postove L.B. Mayer was pretty horrible too!! Not a lot of sympathy for his clients.
According to your description of her it sounds like she would be an easy fit in today's mainstream media.
@@MrJoeybabe25 those women and Winchell were monsters... they revealed secrets that ruined lives.
Their own children could not stand the way they did business.
They were monsters who helped Joe McCarthy to snoop into people’s most private lives and get them blacklisted.
If a star treated them like they were royalty, the star got good press. But, if the star did not bow down to them they got bad press. If a star gave one of the three of them a scoop, the other two were out for blood.
Read about what Joseph Cotten did to Hedda Hopper when she printed something nasty about his family... she deserved it.
Disgusting that someone would defend those evil people today.
Louella Parsons..what a history
Danny Kaye priceless
I was born the day this show originally aired.
I was born the day before...on the 4th.
That was rare at 25:00 when Dorothy stood-up in respect to say goodbye to fellow gossip columnist Louella Parsons, that Dorothy (or Arlene) just realized who it was when John stopped the guessing after she won the entire $50.
Did anyone notice that Dorothy Kilgallen stood to shake Louella Parsons' hand? A real class act!
Towards the end of her career as a gossip columnist louella parsons was being honored and saluted for her dedication to hollywood.
She most certainly couldn't be honored for improving the human condition
@@paulmorin6569 yes that is true.louella had her friends and allies.she could be cruel and untruthful.she did at times trade in humanity for her own professional gain.
@@paulmorin6569 Dear Mr MORIN: I take it that you aren't a fan of Dorothy KILGALLEN. Please elaborate
@@19gregske55my thang was against parsons
Danny Kaye does a great impression of John Daly
Louella seems like a lot of fun.
lol, clearly you are ignorant about the facts of her life.
Fun to play along at times without seeing the profession. A pretty challenging game but the regulars had a lot of practice.
Brooke Hanley I do that sometimes. I wish I could do it with the mystery guest too.
Taped on the same night as the episode with Yves Montand as a mystery guest.
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Any idea why? Also, was the show preempted on Oct. 29th, or is that one of the missing episodes?
SaveThe TPC No program on 10/29/61. It must have been preempted, but I have no idea why.
What's My Line? SaveThe TPC www.tv.com/shows/whats-my-line/preempted-week-10-of-25-97383/trivia/ A made-for-TV production of "The Power and the Glory" with Lawrence Olivier and Martin Gabel in the cast aired that night.
Also, let me say this about Yves Montand: His English was not very good when he first appeared on this program on 10/22/61. But when he appeared again as a Mystery Guest on the 2/12/67 show, his English had improved dramatically. He also spoke English extremely well when he starred with the late and great James Garner in 'Grand Prix".
***** Montand also appeared on 10/24/65, which I know only because, by sheer coincidence, I *just* got finished watching that episode five minutes ago (I was editing together a version with the original commercials).
What's My Line? I think you got him confused with Yves St. Laurent. The episode was notable for having not one, not two, but three different mystery guests.
Damn! Arlene's ensemble tonight is next level. I'd heard Dorothy had been considered "best dressed", by frankly I never saw it that way. Maybe because her choices were not as bold as Arlene's so she had more mainstream appeal? Whatever....I'm Team Arlene all the way.
David Niven wrote in his memoirs about Parsons and Hedda Hopper and their coverage of Hollywood stars.
Good epi
Louella Parsons wasn't even in the show for the thrill of being a mystery guest participant; at the end she states: "I am here because I have written a book"'. She was kinda mean looking.
Yes louella does not look happy.her later years as a Hollywood columnist were not easy for her.the movie business had changed.she did not have the power she used to have.she was getting older.her heyday was over.
I was 8 years old when this aired.
I was 4 when this first aired...I love watching this show!
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Oops pressed wrong icon _ I was "Sixteen going on seventeen" when I watched this program. It was on of my favorites!
18:41 Arlene bonks her microphone with the balloon. They were having a bit too much fun there.
The word 'consumed' is always tricky on this show: we are all consumers in our consumer society in the sense that we buy things and use them up. Most people who use 'consume' in everyday speech mean eat or drink, but John Daly goes for the wider meaning of 'use and deplete' - in that meaning you or I could consume firewood, coal, fuel, toothpaste, shampoo, newspapers and perhaps electricity. He's a rather pedantic and schoolmasterly fellow but funny too - perhaps he is mocking himself when he does the explanations which are more difficult than the point he is making.
Roly And Me. I think it's the panellists fault by not saying 'eaten' or 'swallowed' in the first place. Consumed should indeed mean anything depleted over time.
Louella Parsons looks a lot like Aunt Clara from Bewitched, was her physical appreance the bases for Aunt Clara? Marion Lorne of course will always be that slighty off character from that classic series.
SignalsOverTheAir Here she does. I really loved Aunt Clara on Bewitched.
Parsons was approximately eighty years old when this aired. She wasn't the beauty that her rival Hopper was--who was only four years her junior--Parsons was known to be drab in garment and stolidly plain, with her own appearance and character.
YES! I was trying to think who the Hell Louella looked like; It Was Marion Lorne!
Aunt Clara was less of a scatterbrain gossip
Louella says she's there because she's written a book ("Tell It to Louella"), but then do I hear her say "It isn't very good"???
I read that book tell it to louella.i read a biography on louella about 13 years ago.in the biography it does state that louella thought the book tell it to louella terrible but she wrote every word of it.she wrote a book entitled how to write for the movies and she was not proud of that book either.
On my seventh birthday!
There seems to have been no show on October 29, 1961. Pre-empted. Went from the 22nd to November 5th. (Some of us are watching chronologically.)
John seemed nervous with Parsons, for some reason..not sure why but she was kind of cold to him, imo...
*_POODLE CLIPPER_*
*_MAKES AND SELLS BALLOONS_* 1:23 Breathless beauty? That was stretching it.
Miss Parsons ......she rise and destroyed Carriers while her time .......Today nobody knows her
I find her fascinating and I love looking at her.
Actually the Devil knows her...probably well by now.
Louella Parsons answers were so misleading.
Yes they were but louella was known to fabricate.
Lolly Parsons
Daly doesn’t dig balloons.
I wonder if John was perhaps a bit intimidated by Louella Parsons. He seemed afraid to change any of her definitive "yes" answers to definitive "No"s, even when they were outright falsehoods (such as being a "leading woman" in motion pictures) or to even conference with her about performing in supper clubs, about which he seemed dubious, and I certainly am. Interesting too that Dorothy not only stood up to greet Louella but kissed her as well. It was my understanding that the two of them were arch rivals when Dorothy was starting out as a columnist. Perhaps their relationship mellowed over time?
Michael Mantle
It was very unusual for either Dorothy or Arlene to stand up to greet any contestants. Those that have been noted by myself and others in these comments sections before include members of the clergy (nuns, monsignors, priests), elderly contestants (I just saw a late 1963 episode with an 85-year-old flagpole painter, for whom they stood up), important national or world leaders (e.g., Eleanor Roosevelt) and performers of legendary status (e.g., Sophie Tucker). Your suggestion that Dorothy's feelings about Louella became more positive over time makes sense. To Dorothy she would be someone who is a legend in her own field, and perhaps had become a mentor to her, so I guess that is why she would want to accord her particular respect. Whether or not Louella had ever written anything negative about her personally, Arlene would have no reason to show the same kind of deference to someone who, despite her legendary status, was basically a gossip columnist.
Michael Mantle
It sounds as if you've dome some research into this topic since the first time you commented on this thread. Did you actually find and read some of Louella's columns which mention Arlene? I'd be interested to know how and where you found the records of her comments about her.
Michael Mantle
Wow, what a great source! I'll bet your relative must have lots of fond memories and good stories about time spent with Arlene and family. In light of this information, I now want to watch that segment again. :)
Jeff Vaughn I banned him from leaving further comments long ago, Jeff. He went completely off the deep end. Nuff said. Please don't engage him, since he can continue leaving comments on the thread via Google+ if he chooses to, and I won't even see them (I blocked him personally after he started attacking me).
What's My Line? OK. I'd never heard of him before. I deleted my comment that was directed at him. Thanks for the heads up!
14:00 Danny Kaye is off the chart in this sequence...definitely one for the program's highlight reel. lol
Is that Arlene Francis, or was she replaced that night by the Queen of Sheba?
Or maybe she was replaced by Bonnie Raitt, the best and most beautiful bottle neck guitar player ever ...
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What does the GSn at the top of the screen stand for?
Game Show Network that aired reruns of the show in more recent times.
Ahhh nothing interesting. Someone else's logo. :)
Game show network
Did Miss Parsons have a face lift?
I think she had several. In her autobiography, Mia Farrow alludes to the time she met Louella as a kid and Mia's mother, Maureen O'Sullivan, cautioned the kids not to laugh at Louella's appearance. Her recent facelift had pulled a corner of her mouth too tightly, giving it an odd appearance. (Mia Farrow seems to have a selective memory, so make of that what you will.)
either that or her body dropped...AKA sagged.
I like the panel and guests, but sometimes john needs to shut up
LEZLIE'S LOUNGE It's his job to be pedantic and longwinded. Part of the game and a longrunning 'gag' which gives the panellists something to make fun of or respond to with a quip.
Just SOMETIMES?
Lolly has a few in her LOL
I was
Consumed basically means eaten. Far fetched answer. He does that a lot. Slows the game
Jc Ripp Well, bear in mind that there were a lot of terms that were traditionally used in a very specific way on WML that isn't how they're used in ordinary life. The panelists, and the regular viewers, all knew these things. E.g., products vs services: even if a contestant's line dealt with a product, they were *all* still performing a service. Every single paid occupation in existence is a service or one wouldn't get paid for it. John often slowed the game down, but it was just as often his attempt to bend over backwards to be precisely fair as it was to mislead. "Consumed" can either mean eaten, or used up.
The idea that a balloon is consumed (rather than simply breaking) is far fetched. But something doesn't have to be eaten or imbibed to be consumed. A good example would be logs burned in a fireplace.
so, danny kay was trying out for second most obnoxious panelist in the show's history (numero uno, of course, was jerry lewis); victor borge and buddy hackett gave danny a run for his money, but i think it's danny by a nose.
Agree with Jerry Lewis at No.1. I sometimes watch his interviews for masochistic pleasure just to see how his miserable personality's doing.
It's interesting that the comedians can't stop working when they come on this show which works comedically without requiring them to impose themselves too much on it (Steve Allen for instance 'rides' it well in combo with his sharp wit). You know, Orson didn't break out into reciting Shakespeare. Ustinov didn't launch into any long anecdotes. Mel Torme didn't pipe up with a song. I don't see why the comics can't also put their day job on hold for a few minutes and play the game!! It's pretty desperate when a comedian is desperate for laughs.
Louella Parsons' answers were totally misleading. She was primarily a gossip columnist in the entertainment field.
Parson's was just being true to character...she mislead off the show as well.
:( still no producer talk.
He has no RIGHT to flip over those cards at 40 points!!!!! but yet the last episode, the contestant had NO points, and John wouldn't flip them over!! that's not FAIR!!!
Its amusing to me how we who are watching these shows 60 long years after the fact sometimes seem to take them waaaay more seriously than the original players. Personally, I find myself getting crazy over the injustices of Password and Match Game lol.
I like to think these contestants probably had the time of their lives just being on television, no matter how much money they won.
@@todddepue681 Krista has been posting about Daly flipping cards for ages.
Bennett says "adopted" when he means "adapted". You don't have to be a good editor to be a publisher.
Danny Kaye, who reportedly maintained a romantic relationship for some years with actor Laurence Olivier. That makes for one odd couple.
Rosey01222 Not so odd really. They were both as camp as a row of tents. :)
Parsons very unpleasant woman
Yes she looks very very uneasy.her later years in Hollywood were painful for her.she longer had her power because the motion picture business was changing.
a product of yesterday's America...where many folks succeeded via a rigged, exclusive, and insider power configuration. As times changed and the playing field became more meritorious and democratic, windbags like Parsons became less relevant and effective at her sleazy operations.
Bet he's rolling in his grave knowing Random House has gone woke and cancel books.
Danny Kaye is so obnoxious!
Watching Louella and then Hedda! (;
Danny Kaye is obnoxious.
I was never a fan of Danny Kaye to start with and this episode clinches it. He was almost as bad as Wally Cox and Joey Bishop. Had no business being on this panel.
I agree!
Louella was 80 years old here....