British F-35Bs Fly From HMS Queen Elizabeth • WESTLANT 19 | Forces TV
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For the first time in nearly a decade, British fighter jets flew from a British aircraft carrier last month. We were the only British broadcaster on board HMS Queen Elizabeth to see the F-35Bs in action. The arrival of the jets meant the carrier strike group could enter the next stage of operational testing.
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Another American here happy to see a robust and confident Royal Navy carrying on a centuries old tradition of sailing the seven seas.
That diesel aircraft carrier is quite a purdy baby.
I'm an American, and I'm thrilled to see British-marked aircraft operating aboard the Queen Elizabeth. If only you could go with subdued red and blue roundels...
Agree entirely - I thought that also.
Thank you.
@Hugh Jarsol I hope your wrong but frankly I doubt it
Hugh Jarsol you’ll be flying American flags more like it !!
2:43 What’s that on the side of the aircraft?
It's in the Chesapeake Bay, got to see it today from our neighborhood. Pretty big deal, since we don't get carriers in the bay. Just heard jets flying over, it's 1:30am here. Wonder if it's from her or our guys who have been helping to protect her sending her off. Despite being so close to DC, Andrews, Patuxent & USNA, we don't get jets flying at 1am. Thanks for letting our USNA guys come aboard, we have been able to see some amazing pics of her. Best of luck all on your further travels!
Good to see we are using the newest carriers and aircraft
@phil mill are you stupid ? like fr we use the latest tech might wanna use ur brain we are a tiny island yet we have the most powerful tech out there imagine britian as the size of france or The us we would be unstoppable
AL3X not relly no!!
@@ALX-mv6eb the size of france? both britain and france have a population of 66 million, and their economies are rougly the same size (roughly), if you are speaking about the actualy geographic size of the two countries i think you would be pleasantly suprised looking at a map that it isnt such a big deal bigger then the british isles either, these two countries have so much in common its no wonder they are so close in todays world.
AL3X were basically the exact same as France tbh mate in terms of population, and economy although we just have a smaller land mass
@@Andre-rt5hg exactly
Fair winds and following seas to all who serve aboard her!
British and American military are the best and will continue to be!
China numba 1
Mike - seriously hard bastards and reliable as anything. Nobody doubts the Aussies and their capability.
Dan Man - even hollowed out they are the only full spectrum force in the EU and now they are building up again.
@Dan Man If you knew anything about history you'd know it is.
@Dan Man Firstly it is one of the world powers and Britain has a rich history we are proud of.
Waiting for the the headline *'Florida man tries to sink foreign aircraft carrier with fishing boat after thinking it was an invasion'* or something along those lines.
TheDouser this is so true...
Florida man is worldwide!
another fake account without any content
Lol
More than a thousand crew is an impressive figure - in terms of how few crew that is to run a carrier. An impressively advanced ship!
I’m really glad to see the UK have these ships and planes.
Cheers from The USA!!!
I want America to help the british airforce in are machinery as they have a big enough budget they could maybes help a friend out?
It's great to see USA and the UK working together with such trust with such advanced weaponry. The relationship of trust and friendship is what makes an effective democratic fighting force.
The UK was instrumental in laying down much of the foundation for the Digital Flight Control System for the JSF-B variant in the VAAC Harrier testbed, as well as making the Rolls Royce lift fan for it of course as an early partner with the USMC in the JSF-B program. They even had test pilots in the States working on the experimental X-35, so the UK has been eyeball-deep in this aircraft virtually from the start. It's a phenomenal achievement really for both the US and UK to have pulled off such a fighter, and the UK's F-35 logistics infrastructure has already been used to support USAF F-35As deployed abroad.
SALUTE TO BRITISH NAVY.FROM DHAKA
Magnificent to see we’re finally getting up to speed.👍🏼
I'm a Briton and I'd like to be as thrilled as the American to see RAF Air Marshall sand RAF pilots aboard their new RAF floating Airbase.
One day we might even see Fleet air arm pilots aboard a Royal Navy Carrier, with fleet air arm jets with FAA makings and roundels.....
@El Draque You're deluded. 'Whether tyranny over Europe, or over the World, the UK has always fought against it, and Is unbeaten doing so.' To many countries during our colonial past we have been that tyranny. I'm not one of these people that thinks we should apologise or owe the world anything because of our dark history. However, you do seem to completely lack any level of perspective.
@El Draque: Wowser, are you Nigel Farage in disguise??
@Ancient Mariner: I'm so with you sir. The Air Boss/ Commander Air should be Cdr RN and although wonderful to see our RAF cousins featured so highly on a warship, I was concerned that the head only shots of them didn’t actually show their slippers that are a key RAF uniform requirement.....
El Draque Yes. That is a bizarre and completely unfounded statement. North Korea? Hong Kong? There are many examples of tyrannical governments in which we have done nothing or even been complicit. The unfortunate truth is that the empire was once one of the most tyrannical forces on the planet. Do you know anything about the atrocities of the empire? The 1.5 million Kenyans in concentration camps? The Bengal famine? I suppose you wouldn’t because you seem to think of our glorious nation as unable to do any wrong. It’s not hard to spot a leave voter is it?
@El Draque: I’d love to think of a witty one liner riposte, however as a “dunce” (great turn of phrase btw) I’ll leave you to your vitriol...
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david lambert tuff
Ha-ha
Congrats Britain.
Am so happy that our closest ally, UK, is finally getting this elite capability. We need to maintain this Special Relationship.
You beauties, great to see carrier aviation back with the RN!
Beautiful ship, beautiful aircraft, love seeing it and them out, and about, on maneuvers.
Enormous ship!!!!
Amazing how that aircraft just stays in mid air......
All man made
British pilots have been flying on the ship since late last year.
Has anyone watched the documentary series 'Britain's Biggest Warship' on the BBC? Absolutely brilliant for this interested in the RN & RAF!
Those aircraft were American F-35Bs. These are British ones.
@@Explosivefox109 well both sorts are on her now for a total of five aboard at present
Yeah I’ve seen it. Really good documentary.👍🏼
@Nelson Gonzalez yeah it was upsetting, especially watching his personal steward stay on the ship whilst most got off for New York!
A Brit and just want to say. Do one Yank, you're the global monster today, the enemy, your country is looking for global tyranny today, we'll never support that as it's only the UK that has fought for the people's freedom against EVERY attempted effort at tyranny in our worlds modern history.
Whether tyranny over Europe, or over the World, the UK has always fought against it, and Is unbeaten doing so. We British could never support this clear and obvious attempt by the USA at global military control as well as global financial control. Because, that is what always becomes global tyranny. We will fight against it though, but never for it.
Before every War in history, as soon as the people have found out it's heading to War, we've always seen enormous shifts in alliances, many times with some of the most unexpected alliances being formed while the usual alliances get broken, usually by the demands of the people themselves. Every War in history has seen this, hopefully it will be no different this time.
Every War in history has been lost by the country trying for domination, control or global tyranny.
Not one has ever won, countries with some of the largest, greatest, most enormous military's ever seen at that time, have all lost, and not only lost but all have been annihilated.
The American people would be very wise to remember that.
Because there's a reason for that.
When you're fighting for the right reasons, fighting against attempted tyranny or oppression, you learn very quickly to overcome anything thrown at you, you fight with all your might, everyone around you is the same so you easily outfight anyone fighting for tyranny or fighting for the wrong reasons, because those troops all lack any real sort of fight.
So no matter what, or how many weapons they may have, they can't ever match the fight against them. We see this in every War throughout history, over and over again, we also always see that the troops all fighting for the righteous reasons, like their own country's freedom, always seem to become invincible! Every War is the same. It will be no different this time, only the annihilation might be much more severe, but just as deserved.
My country Great Britain, must move away from this USA stranglehold on us.
Today Britain supporting the USA is no different to us supporting Nazi Germany in 39! We fought two World Wars and many smaller Wars to prevent tyranny of any kind, now today we're supporting the USA's attempt at global control both financially and militarily, ''Tyranny'', only this time its American tyranny.
We always fight against that, it's in our blood, we'd never support tyranny, we'd rather die first. If any UK government tried to support the USA in a major War today this country would fall into all-out Civil War before any of us would allow that to happen. We'd fight against it though! We'd be once again, on the right side of history, fighting tyranny for our freedom, as otherwise, we must know that soon, it will be our turn?
The fact that the QEC can initiate 70 sorties a day and the Ford class can manage on average 90+ shows that the QEC is an extremely competant Supercarrier. The QEC can carry 72 (36+ F35B) aircraft which is impressive. This can increase to over 50 f-35Bs if it went all out WAR.
Sorties /day by comparison average capability:
Ford class = 90+ (120 most recorded)
UK QEC = 70+
admiral kuznetsov =
Good to see us working with our American friends
*for....
@@JL-cn1qi lol it goes both ways...
@@JL-cn1qi They don't have to, smegma.
Great to see. 👍🏻
Wow God bless all the crew and all the Royal Navy.
🇬🇧 Such a difference from the old steam catapult and elastic stopping bands! Plus hundreds of guys running around the deck! A big step in the right direction I would say! 👍🇬🇧 Well done UK!
What are you calling old. Ramps have been around nearly as long and are quite limiting compared to catapults and arresting wires.
@@Predator42ID But they don't break. And need very little maintenance.
@@TheBarnestah But burn through alot of fuel and thus fly time of the plane. Modern catapults now use electromagnetic catapults for quicker followup launches and less maintenance. But you cant do that with ships running on diesel.
@@JL-cn1qi To be fair this is a true point. However they can use SVRL. (not my own words) With SRVL the jet takes a more conventional landing pattern, approaching the ship from the aft end, at speed, using the thrust from the nozzle and lift created by air over the wings, to touch down and come to a stop as soon as possible, saving time and money and reducing heat stress on the ship’s deck.
Allowing them to land without dumping fuel pods or wepons before landing.
As far as power.
2 × Rolls-Royce Marine Trent MT30 36 MW (48,000 hp) gas turbine engine 4 × Wärtsilä 38 marine diesel engines (4 × 16V38 11.6 MW or 15,600 hp) More than enough to run EMALS if necessary. Or more to the point if we could afford to retro fit that system.
At least as they decided to build an aircraft carrier they finally determined to make it in a right way instead of building some useless 22000 ton class carrier
India is doing a good job by purchasing the design of this Excellent Aircraft Carrier 👌!! Great work Britain, Kudos!!🇮🇳🤝🇬🇧
It would be good, wean you off Russian and into a partner for future projects.
@@davidhouseman4328 Ya, you are right. But, the MOD is reluctant to fund this huge carrier. So chances of it actually joining Indian Navy are quite bleak.
@@Deepanshu700 we can hope. But it does a lot of thing like a smaller carrier. Particular crew but it modular construction allows participation by smaller yards.
Outstanding! A great aircraft and a superb class of carrier. That's where I want my defence tax £'s spent! And some more hunter killer subs please!
Me too, we have more subs laid up awaiting decommissioning than we have active.
Pablo Jay - yes! The number of subs the Brits have laid up in Portsmouth. If they were better at cycling old kit and providing manpower there is a massive force right there.
Just go to the movies instead.. You really don't need to invade countries under false pretense to see some actions shots or military hardware.
This is a garbage plane,these things will consume uks defence budget as it is doing the united states,the average life span for a f35 is around 3000 hours,that's not very good
@@mydixienormus9186 The F-35's average flight time before an "unscheduled maintenance event" is 90 minutes. The average readiness for all missions over the whole fleet is 12%. The average number of sorties per day is .4, that is, three a week. The cost of the F-35 program now stands at over 420 billion dollars, US, making it the most expensive defence program of all time, in real money. The time required to prepare it for any mission - supposing it is available - is over an hour and a half. In short, this is a disaster. But the F-35 is the only fixed-wing aircraft that the QE class can fly, because they have no cats or wires. God forbid they ever go into harm's way.
As a complete package, it's probably the most advanced aircraft carrier in the world. That makes me immensely proud (even though I played no part in it at all other than paying some tax).
Nothing says advanced like not being able to launch fixed wing AEW or relying on only ballistic for self defense
@@jb76489 she'll have the Dragonfire laser defence system too eventually, when it's ready, and regardless this ship will be escorted by a complete group of the best destroyers, frigates, submarines, land-based aircraft and support vessels we have when fully operational, at all times. This ship is the biggest, most powerful and most valuable conventional military asset we have
1IbramGaunt very cool, we can talk if that actually happens, right now not so much. And nothing says successful carrier design like. “Needs to be escorted by land based aircraft”
@@jb76489 by land-based aircraft I meant ASW and reconnaissance aircraft like the new P-8 Poseidons
@Brett Mitchell and no, it doesn't, it just helps a lot, in certain situations and when close enough
Can't wait to see f35b on Australian's ships, congratulations Brit's.
Aussies gotta rename the jets! The Deadly Wombats or some such.
Some cutting edge tech on display
Great ship
Way to go Britain. We love you!!! Boston, Massachusetts
Are you Irish American and you love the British because they have a big ship.
@@anthonymullen6300Britain has been a Great Allie to the US for a very long time. Yes you are right Britain could be a little nicer and free Northern Ireland as you freed the US Colonies..
Michael O'Connell. The UK can’t free Northern Ireland as some want to leave and some don’t, they’re not held under any force
@@Then.72 Let anyone in Ireland vote then go by the majority then Ireland is one country again... Keep denying such a vote and the problems will always remain.
Michael O'Connell Ireland 🇮🇪 isn’t the U.K. 🇬🇧 but Northern Ireland is . More people who live in Northern Ireland want to remain a part of the U.K. which is why it does although there’s been a religious involvement that has caused problems
Gotta make sure our brothers have the best toys for defense. Lets get them operational!
If you are american I am grateful for America as right now I might be speaking German if it weren’t for America and I would love to see America help us with are fighter jets etc as they have a bigger budget than us
plus the RAF have innovated a new way of landing without having to ditch any armament on the F-35B's. A rolling landing never performed by anyone on an aircraft carrier. Class always shines through :-)
neil banks they used to do it with Harriers on Invincible class carriers
neil banks citation needed
@@jb76489 it is true
We truly are stepping up once again to show that our Royal Navy, combined with the air force, although maybe not the biggest, are most definitely the best.
@@UAPJedi cant see any evidence that ever happened... can you post anything to confirm that per chance?
Another *year* of Work-ups?...
That's gonna be tough!
That's a big Aircraft carrier.
Very nice
Impressive. Anglo American axis at its best
Good just make 2 more now!
we have made 2 more they are just not active they are reserve lol
@@ALX-mv6eb what are you on about we only have two carriers. We don't need anymore.
Although we have built two of these carriers there are barely enough frigates, destroyers and subs to support one carrier group at sea for any length of time... we are dependant on allies for that. We don't need more carriers... we need more frigates/destroyers and the personnel to crew them.
Paid for how??
Should definitely build a couple more now they are in the groove. Australia and Canada speak up.
I don’t think we (Australia) would be able to man them unfortunately, the two LHDs already put a strain on personnel, plus budgeting for them would be tough and take money form. The Air Force and army
Matt fooks-bale? How does he survive in the forces with that name?
Lolllllzzzzzzz 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🇬🇧
At Last.But can the comeback be sustained through to a level with the ability to take on possible medium powered opponents .It would be interesting to know what anti missile defenses the two have. Currently they do not enjoy a safe screen net . What will be provided
Sea viper and ceptor from the Type 45 and 23 respectively. Themselves they just have the phalanx fail safe.
It would have been nice if the HMS had catapult launch system
They started a redesign to install a catapult system, but so much of the ship had already been built that it would have been ridiculously expensive and probably delay the project by a year or more. Ultimately they decided that it was better to keep the current system than spend untold billions remaking it.
Maybe our future carriers in ~30 years will use catapults, who knows.
@Black boto the catapult launch systems improve mission efficiency as it allows more aircrafts to be launched within any given time, it also increases the payload that the aircraft can take off with
Smukelo Gumede I agree that it can increase aircraft payload, but it _slows down_ launches. The aircraft have to line up with the catapult, hook in, then launch. With a ramp you can take off as quickly as planes can get out of the way. No need for setup.
Hanif Shakiba, remember the catapult launch has several platforms on the flight deck, the Nimitz class carriers have 4 at least, and the aircrafts are launched quicker on multiple platforms even though aircrafts await their turn. With a ski ramp its one aircraft at a time
Smukelo Gumede remember that the Nimitz is 35,000 tons bigger than the QE, so has more room for these sort of things. Also, this isn’t really an issue with the new Ford class, since they have an electromagnetic catapult (which the QE would probably have if it were retrofitted), but the steam catapults on the Nimitz take time to build up pressure.
badass
Nice to see Royal Navy back up to speed with carrier support. Lets hope if Corbyn gets in to power he doesn't mothball them with all the other nuclear deterrents. Well done to the professionalism of the UK pilots, navy personnel and HMS Queen Elizabeth Captain Kydd. I trust operational capability will be expeditious in its commencement. Respect to all the service guys....
he wont do that. He will sell the army as we wont have any money to be able to fund it with his ideoligy
It is Tory governments that have hollowed out our armed forces.....
@@zipz8423 Well I cant argue with that, but Corbyn will reduce it extensively further when he removes the nuclear weapons from the nuclear subs and the rest of our nuclear weapons so that we have no deterrent or way to protect ourselves from Russian aggression or other foreign entities that may threaten us.
@@Elfin4 I am no fan of Corbyn, but he does want the RN to have more surface units ie escorts, nor can he reverse Labour Party policy which is to maintain Trident he has already accepted this. A Labour leader cannot be a dictator, policy and the manifesto is a collective responsibility.
The Unions dont want to shed jobs in the Nuke industry.
@@zipz8423 He has just recently confirmed he wants a nuclear free UK and will work to that end. He cant be trusted.
The first time in 9 years that British jets have landed on a British aircraft carrier. If only that were true.
"who's the bast**d that keyed my F35B?" said no one, ever!
Very interesting. It's great to see the F-35's in their proper element. However, I wish someone would have mentioned the reason for two islands instead of the up to now more normal, one. There are obvious visual differences in them and if I were to hazard a guess I would say the aft island is for air operations and the forward island is for operations of the carrier itself.
That's how they are used, but origin is from engine exhaust. They can go straight up with this setup.
I saw this aircraft carrier in dock while visiting a friend in Southampton about 2 months ago. It was an overpowering sight and all these videos don't do the scale of it justice. Such a strange sight to look over to the right and just go, "wait what... is that a queen elizabeth aircraft carrier over there?".
22 meters longer than Mighty Hood
Correction in the RED
I wish we had bought some F-35A for the Air Force and the C for the navy
Good to see UK Forces getting the best and training with our cousins across the water. UK Carriers, F35's and World Class Submarines too make up the UK's ability to defend herself properly again.
👍GB/UK
A lot easier than a CATOBAR Carrier, that's why USN Pilots are the Best !!
Landing a fast jet on a moving Carrier, coming in at well over 100 mph and "catching" the wire is the hardest thing to do in the US Navy !!!
Also a better and cheaper F35C aircraft for that !!
Stovl is more fit for purpose, for a great powers naval requirements, British hasn't been the leading world superpower since ww2 and doesn't have the GDP to justify the expense of a superpowers world leading fleet anymore, remember the empire made Britain a superpower across the world, the USAs empire is within its own borders, so like Russia, doesn't need to keep itself wanting to be British, America only has to avoid civil war not keep other countries convinced they need a superpowers world influence on their side to prosper.
First assignment has got to be a visit to Auckland in 2021 to carry the Auld Mug back to Portsmouth.
The two island setup gives this ship a very distinctive look. If you took off the forward island and jump rump, it would look like just another Yank carrier.
Not quite. All of our CVNs have an angled deck.
Has that look of the stealth fighter
michael Fenn they are....
What is the thing that opens on top of F-35?
High power vent coupled to the engine to give it its vertical landing/takeoff capability. Sucks up the air above the plane and blast it downwards to hover. Not all F-35's have this. There's an A B and C version. This being the B it has that "vent" in the middle for hovering, during normal flight thats all closed off for aerodynamic and stealth reasons.
Lift fan cover in the front and AAIDs - auxiliary air inlet doors - just behind.
Was that thing lagging or just floating
The Brits are alright in my book, glad to have them flying the F-35 on their beautiful Elizabeth class carriers. Hope they churn out some locally made destroyers.
Taking so damn long !!! Jesus just let a full Marine Air Wing on board to help us and it will be up and ready to go !!
They are the Most experienced with this aircraft now 4+ yrs with theirs, and when the RN gets a full Wing worked up and trained then we can have our jets !! I'm sure our great US Allie with the Marines would be glad to help and fly from the QE for 9 mths or so !! : )
Must be a lot of drag on that ''Toilet seat'' when it's in the up position.
lesgl the drag is good, it helps them slow down enough for a vertical landing
ricky gore Below the little flap thing is where the lift system is. The flap is just used to cover it so, when they want to do a quick takeoff, the pilot just lifts up the flap, turns on the lift system and they can do a quick takeoff. Works the same for a vertical landing, just flip up the flap, turn the lift system on and they can land just fine
Listen to Stank, the drag is a requirement if you want air to enter the lift fan.
If you look at pics of the early prototypes they had 2 doors that opened sideways but they changed to the "Toilet Seat", as you called it, because they found it improved the efficiency of the Rolls Royce vertical lift fan by helping to direct the airstream into the fan, and because the fan is sucking in air at a tremendous rate , there is very little strain on the "Toilet Seat".
Sounds about right to me..i called it the ''Toilet seat'' when I first saw it back in the day...seems aircrew have taken to calling it that as well..
Is the 'blipping' sound at 2:26 interference from the ship's radar? Just wondering
Probably just the boom mic taping something (if there using one that is)
That was the analogue signal era :P
I have a question I cant seem to find an answer to. Can the F-35 B land like a conventional fighter on a concrete runway ie without operating the Lift Fan?
Pablo Jay yes.
yup
Even the B variant which isn’t designed for VTOL but SVTOL, can still vertically take off with no extra weight. It doesn’t need to be VTOL anyway, it’s on a ship built with a runway for fucks sake. It’s decent at dog fighting and incredible in its stealth capabilities, it can take out a plane from miles away before being detected and enter enemy airspace, drop bombs on its targets and get out, again, without being detected. I don’t know why you still think it’s bad because of it’s development hell but keep thinking thy if you want to.
@@kcimb Thanks, I am thinking of conventional landings in the event of a lift system failure. I have never seen a B model land conventionally as yet.
Pablo Jay they can. I’ve seen them.
American F-35's before RAF F-35's. 21st century version of Prima Nocta, lol
Are the two new carriers really going to the Persian Gulf like HMS Ocean? As the Iranians are very adept at damaging tankers without killing anyone & capturing tankers without killing anyone these new carriers must be a tempting target. Maybe fire a small missile that damages the ship in some way etc. Would the USA go to war in such a case or would they tell the junior partner to 'suck it up'?
I imagine the Iranians would have a lot of trouble carrying a fully manned aircraft carrier by boarding, even if they could get through the CAP and cripple every propulsion and weapons system with a series of 'small' missiles. The US has been sitting just off shore daring them to come out for a decade now, but Iran seems to be limiting its attacks to unarmed civilian ships. Whether due to lack of capability or a desire to avoid escalation is unclear.
Well... Would be unclear if they hadn't just started bombarding the Saudis and taking pot shots at US support and surveillance planes. Time will tell how much that ends up escalating.
Yeah so far Iran has only dared go near unarmed tankers. In cases where a British frigate has been in range they've been scared off.
I doubt they'd dare attempt to damage a British warship, especially not a carrier accompanied by a task group (Potentially including international partners).
An old diesel boat sailor ants to know why this beautiful Royal Navy carrier has TWO ISLANDS? Amazing! 🇬🇧🇺🇸
It stems from the engine exhausts but one is used for the ship, the other the aircraft, though if one is damaged the other can do both.
David Houseman - Thank you sir.
they way they designed it is that the forward island is the ship's actual bridge, and the rear is the air traffic control tower. In short, they separate the two main command aspect of ship in different towers.
Of course, like most warships these days, you can probably drive the ship from the CIC bunker deep underneath the ship as a backup.
Wiryan Tirtarahardja - thank you sir. Amazing technology. In my day carriers had only one island. If I saw this at a distance through a periscope, initially I’d be somewhat confused!
@@submarineradioman5535 ha, it's secretly camouflaged as two ships.
EPSTEIN DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF!
Weird question but... I live in Florida. What would happen if an American single-engine plane overflew or came too close to a British warship in International waters... Like over international waters is there a TFR around OTHER countries warships operating in the vicinity of a friendly nation? Does the FAA/JAA/ICAO have jurisdiction over international waters?
A civilian would be warned off, with fighter escort if they seemed to be maneuvering aggressively. The US and UK are military allies so, as far as I know, military aircraft would be able to give sign/countersign and then be welcome to fly where they please.
Mind they might get a call to their commander if they did anything knuckleheaded, but generally NATO forces treat other NATO forces as the same country. Actually British/US/French carriers have a long history of forming up together to share destroyer escorts, complete with planes of all Allied nations flying together in close proximity.
The "B" stands for British version, the British love their jump jets.
Not a bad job being a Naval Aviator.... !
0:54
What was our last carrier?
HMS Ark Royal [R07]
@@ThePalaeontologist + HMS Illustrious (R06) decommissioned 28th August 2014 well after the Ark Royal.
@@henryvagincourt I was going by keel laid down.
@@ThePalaeontologist Correct, couldn't understand why they scrapped the ARK before Illustrious, either way it was a disgrace. HMS Ark Royal should have been retained as a Navy museum.
@@Elfin4 totally agree with all of that; don't get me started on HMS Warspite and HMS Vanguard. I'd rather see them beach themselves to rust away, than get scrapped.
That's good CG. Actually looks like they're flying.
Rule Britannia
A comment often followed by "Whoa Britania!"
😊
Yawn
@@monkeyfunk8371 Your name matches that comment perfectly. Don't agree or disagree just saying.
Fair enough, the USMC loved the Brit AV8B Harrier.
The AV-8B was a McDonnell Douglas bird which the United States ended up selling to Britain.
The flight trials in 2018 were flown by UK pilots. The aircraft were test aircraft fitted with lots of telemetry.
Three Brits - BAE Systems test pilot Peter Wilson, Royal Air Force Squadron Leader Andrew Edgell, Royal Navy Commander Nathan Gray - and one American - Major Michael Lippert USMC.
The big question is...
Will the Carriers be working for Brits along side the US fleet if we manage to finally Brexit or fall under the control of those unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
Apparently,according to the recent video.
36 F35b pour les français et on embrasse nos frères anglais👍😚
What is it with the RAF and terrible hairlines
Tradition
Sort of like the American Marines and their Jarheads
It’s because they go so fast
Joshua Goldman how dare you
It matches their bad teeth.
Russian trolls are out in force today trying to breed resentment between Americans and British.
It's hilariously inneffective. You Tories are wonderful at disarming the ill intentioned. Respect from Texas.
The nose wheel on the F-35 seems like something I would fit to a Lego plane. I've seen several clips where it whiggles back and forth when it turns. That has got to be a problem in the long run...
Hope they prefect that landing style, kind of embarrassing having to drop ordinance into the sea before landing.
You got a "Wing Commander" but only 23 actual F35s? That Is Pathetic. Usually a Wing Comafer is over many squadrons. And the British as of Jan 2021 have not fronted the money for more, yet, maybe sometime, maybe.
Yeah it's cool and all that but what are we going to use it for?
pooping aircraft carried bombs on the enemy
@Blob B You actually think any of our politicians would risk using these in an actual dangerous situation? We can't even provide an escort force without dispatching the entire RN...
Hopefully the planes will be flown by proper fleet air arm pilots and not the RAF as the doctrines of combat at sea differ from ground based aircraft
If these aircraft can take off and land in such short distances, why then are the carriers so big?
The more space you have, the more weapons and fuel you can carry. Taking off fully vertical means practically carrying nothing, but as long as they're even just using a small part of the deck to take off, they can carry quite a lot of weaponry. Using just a little more space means you can carry the maximum weapons load for the aircraft.
Second reason is to be able to launch and recover aircraft quickly. Since you need to use at least some of the deck to take off, then you need more deck space to keep aircraft up there ready to launch themselves and to move them into position. For launching, you can line them up and take off one after another, It's also possible to have at least two F-35B landing at the same time due to how much space they have.
@@Benjd0 Nothing then to do with the original specification that used fixed wing aircraft and steam catapults?
@@Tconcept No, as the CATOBAR variant was for France (They didn't end up building one), the UK was pretty set on STOVL, other than during the 2010 defence review where they reverted to the CATOBAR design, but found it would be much more expensive due to the stage they were already at in building the carrier.
The Royal Navy had a set number of F-35 they wanted to operate (36) then scaled the carrier to a size that would allow for a specific sortie rate, that's why it's as large as it is.
@Blob B I rather think they they were designed to use steam catapults, and were built to accommodate this, hence their size, it was soaring costs that changed the plan, hence why they are overly sized and much bigger targets. It was a sad day when we lost the harrier and the illustrious class carrier.
@@Tconcept Original concept was for EMALS not steam catapults. Neither boat has the ability as currently built to generate steam for catapults.
A ten year wait, billions in cost, huge in size..... And just 2 aircraft 🤣.and even that is a rare sight as I'm informed these aircraft are terrified of water and sea spray 🤣 I wonder how many f-35s the navy actually has on its books?
Too bad it doesn't have catapults or arresting cable..ruins all the fun
Not to mention the range and operational time of the jets.
Gee how too make a Carrrier Un-Stealthy. Every missile in the area, is going too lock on it LOL !!!
Are they still able to land with arrestor cables if necessary? Wouldn't that save fuel ?
Nope, you need specific strengthening to use arrestor cables. They have a rolling landing, using the lift fan to be able to come in slower and use conventional braking.
@Blob B Some fuel by no means all.
Will British Navy pilots help China with 5th generation aircraft development pointers?
Even though its smaller than the ford class carriers. It's a more efficient and advanced ship
ROFLMAO, no it is not even close to being as advanced as the Ford, it doesn't even have catapults or arresting gear for crying out loud so it isn't even a proper aircraft carrier.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 advanced doesn't mean does many things, it means doing what is does better.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 it is the most state of the art carrier in the world. Requires significantly less personnel to operate in comparison to its American counterparts.
On the high seas we'll see if the QE boat's propulsion plant can keep up with the Ford's reactors.
If Britain survived for 10 years without any carrier strike capability. Who's to say they won't survive for 10 more? Or forever? I mean, they weren't invaded in those 10 years, which gives credibility to the argument that the carriers and their planes are a waste of money in a country that has a lot of other things they could spend it on.
Problem is these carriers begun going through the design phase in the early 2000's. If you suddenly need a carrier and you don't have one, or one isn't in development then you're probably going to be at least a decade away from having one.
You're gambling the defence of the country and its interests on that couple of billion, which in the grand scheme of things isn't all that much spread over the 50 year lifetime of the ship.
The UK needs at least two more that run on nuclear
I always used to believe that, but there are two good reasons why non nuclear are a good idea. The first is that although the aircraft carrier could cruise unlimited range for 10 years...what about the escorts?? if your support ships run on fuel then you still need fuel tenders anyway.
Second - a lot of ports will not allow a nuclear fueled vessel to berth anywhere nearby, being non nuclear means the carriers can dock at many more ports for resupply.
I still think having the extra capability of nuclear generators would be a bonus but its not as clear cut as i thought.
@@MrBlackjimrogan I always think large ships running on gas turbines are bad idea. You need more room for the aircraft fuel not ship fuel
@@MrBlackjimrogan Totally agree. But I'm slightly puzzled why the French have gone nuclear on there carrier. As presumably they have relatively the same combat logistics as UK.
@@TheBarnestah The UK is actually one of the few countries with a fairly extensive support fleet, whereas France is fairly lacking in that area. That in combination with their nuclear industry being more developed means it makes a little more sense for them.
Although I think their original plan was to have two, with only one carrier it means they're left with no carrier for longer periods (Especially considering they have to refuel around every 7 years with their reactors).
HMS Hubris. About as much use as a chocolate fireguard in a fight with a peer enemy. Or not even a peer enemy - just one armed with cheap missiles.
Yes you are as much use as a chocolate fireguard, well done for admiting it. As for the rest of you inaccurate comment..Go back to your comics as you clearly as as stupid as you sound!
Big boys they are when they are hammering some poor third world country ... Against first World nations these carriers would not last more than a few days...
how did Space x manage to land a rocket so easily !???????????? why not ask them to make a fighter plane
Oh yes I forgot how easy and with hardly any billions of dollars space- X landed there first craft. Really you must be joking?
@@TheBarnestah so you are telling me F-35B is cheap ?????? what planet you on?
@@KnowerofThings
No not at all.. maybe I misunderstood your previous comment.
Could you explain further what you meant? Or did I miss something? Or more than likely I missed your joke.
Soz if that is the case.
I mean it's cheaper than the f22. And the f117.
@@TheBarnestah i mean Space x can land a rocket so easily from space in like a few seconds while this plane takes forever to land so slowly. remember the rocket is shaped like a pencil which makes it even more difficult to balance. So i ask why not ask space x to design the plane .
Look out Hitler , sorry i meant Russia.
Russia would delete Britain in the crossfire with US.🤣
Correct, after Russia was repeatedly nuked
@@Yahweh312 Careful ,the evil zionista lizards are reading your mind .
ross g manley888 👈 copy and paste all over this comment section. Clearly a troll.
Russia is a 3rd world country dafuck they gone do ?